[09:35] <trijntje> is there a way to get in new translations for packages in universe for precise?
[09:39] <jokerdino> trijntje: you want to suggestion new translations?
[09:40] <trijntje> jokerdino: I want to override upstream translations for a package located in the universe repository
[09:40] <jokerdino> sample link?
[09:47] <trijntje> This is the link to the vbox package for ubuntu in launchpad, but its not translatable. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/virtualbox-ose
[09:48] <jokerdino> hmm i agree.
[09:57] <sagaci> I wish all of universe was translatable in launchpad but then I guess upstream misses out
[09:58] <jokerdino> i don't know. it has both pros and cons i think.
[09:59] <jokerdino> btw, grats on your membership sagaci
[10:09] <trijntje> well, we will also submit the translation upstream, but that means that there will be bad translations for 5 years in the lts
[10:12] <trijntje> so I was wondering if there was a way to cheat for 1 package and get our translations in
[10:13] <sagaci> it'd be ok to include the translations, say if the package was >80% complete
[10:15] <sagaci> probably wouldn't be something to put in place until at least after this release
[10:18] <trijntje> sagaci: do you mean the infrastructure to translate packages from universe or our specific translation of virtualbox? I think vbox moves quite a lot upstream, so the release after the lts will probably get  a newer version with corrected translations
[10:26] <sagaci> trijntje: the former, for all universe packages
[10:26] <sagaci> I'd prefer the translation to be done in launchpad but at the same time, push as much effort upstream as possible
[10:29] <trijntje> sagaci: ok, thanks. I have no idea about how translations get into universe, so I thought I'd ask to see if something could be done.
[10:30] <sagaci> I think it's also a half-note to note that maybe the focus should be the just the packages in main (as it is now)
[10:30] <sagaci> but for something like en_AU, I'd be more than happy to take a chunk out of the universe packages
[10:37] <trijntje> true, but for dutch (nl) we've been at 100% for the top 300 packages or so for a few releases, so we are looking further now
[10:38] <sagaci> yeah fair enough
[10:43]  * sagaci just realised they've implemented that sorting feature for untranslated strings
[10:44]  * sagaci just realised it only works for the current batch
[11:18] <sagaci> dpm: is there any possibility for enabling all universe packages for translation - even if it were in a separate batch to the main packages?
[11:48] <dpm> hi sagaci, technically, now it's possible. But I think it'd be best to try to enable just a few first
[11:51] <sagaci> sounds good
[12:59] <trijntje> dpm: lets try it on virtualbox first ;)
[16:32] <andrejz> hello dpm, kelemengabor! I thought we are meeting @ 17.00 UTC and adjusted my schedule accordingly so i will need to leave soon after 18.00. Is it possible we start a little earlier and then you two continue without me?
[16:33] <kelemengabor> I'm okay with that :)
[16:33] <andrejz> dpm
[16:33] <dpm> andrejz, I'm flexible today, as I'm not having the other meeting today, so we can start whenever
[16:33] <andrejz> ok so let's start
[16:34] <dpm> I'm not sure about TLE, though, he doesn't seem to be online
[16:34] <andrejz> google+?
[16:35] <dpm> yeah, let's do G+
[16:35] <andrejz> ok waiting
[16:35] <dpm> kelemengabor, are you all set too?
[16:35] <dpm> if so, I'll send the invite
[16:35] <kelemengabor> yes, just logged in
[16:36] <dpm> ok, let me set this up
[16:37] <dpm> kelemengabor, andrejz, ok. Hangout started
[16:40] <kelemengabor> dpm: andrejz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/Next and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/2011-12-07 for some  deferred items
[16:43] <kelemengabor> andrejz: dpm: automatic LP exports look like this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mvo/ddtp-ubuntu/ddtp-pot-precise/changes
[17:37] <dpm> kelemengabor, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-online-tour and http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/ubuntu-online-tour/index.zh-CN.html