/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/01/18/#ubuntu-us-ca.txt

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DarkwingIs Mark bringing the penguin suit?03:27
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philipballew_bkerensa, how did yhou block your website? im looking to shutdown my wp hosted site today06:19
DonkeyHotei[Mon 2012-01-16 05:26:12 PM PST] <DonkeyHotei> <script type="text/javascript" src="//js.sopablackout.org/sopablackout.js"></script>06:21
philipballew_i need to do that on my wp site i beleive06:22
DonkeyHoteiyou're late06:22
DonkeyHoteiwikipedia is already blacked out06:22
philipballew_no im not. here in california its the 17th06:22
DonkeyHoteii know that06:22
DonkeyHoteiaren't they going by utc?06:22
DonkeyHoteior at least est06:23
pleia2est06:23
pleia2washington dc time ;)06:23
philipballew_yeah, but i made my script to do pacific06:23
philipballew_im lame like that06:23
philipballew_my wp theeme doesnt support pluggins, so im gonna switch06:23
DonkeyHoteino google's main page today is what's lame06:24
philipballew_my wordpress site doesnt support plugins :(06:33
philipballew_http://philipballew.wordpress.com/ down06:41
* philipballew_ signing out06:42
bkerensa_philipballew: Not sure which one there are many07:11
bkerensa_:(07:12
bkerensa_my net is really broke atm so I cant even check07:12
pleia2bkerensa secretly moved to kenya to replace grantbow and didn't tell us07:12
pleia2why is your internet so terrible? :)07:12
bkerensa_well07:14
bkerensa_the main Access Point went down07:14
bkerensa_and I cant access it at all07:14
bkerensa_its not responding to ping, telnet, http nothing07:14
pleia2main access point?07:14
bkerensa_Yeah I live adjacent to one of the hotels I do wifi for07:15
pleia2ah07:15
bkerensa_so I have to wait maybe till tomorrow for our maintainance guy to come out and go on the roof and take down the AP so I can reset the device07:15
bkerensa_or potentially replace it07:15
pleia2fun07:15
bkerensa_and its snowing07:15
bkerensa_so idk07:15
bkerensa_:(07:15
pleia2I want snow07:15
bkerensa_I dont07:16
pleia2but I have to say, it is cold07:16
* bkerensa_ sends to California07:16
pleia238F!07:16
pleia2actually getting below freezing in the north bay this week07:16
bkerensa_anyways yeah I cant get this AP to respond for the life of me its not broadcasting at all :( problem is it uses POE07:16
bkerensa_I think to replace it might cost $100007:16
pleia2eek07:17
bkerensa_maybe I will go get Clear tomorrow :)07:17
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ryaxnb_anyone having internet issues?14:01
ryaxnb_in Central Coast?14:01
pleia2boo, not sure my chumby8 will be here before I leave17:02
pleia2supposed to get here tomorrow, but mail comes late, I might need to leave before it arrives17:04
DarkwingNice!18:18
DarkwingWikipedia is down18:18
Darkwing:D18:19
DonkeyHoteihas been for ages18:20
Darkwingjust noticed that it's down in protest to SOPA18:20
DarkwingI'm thinking that is going to be one of my hot topics for this weekend.18:20
DonkeyHoteiit's already been a hot topic in this channel for more than 24 hours18:22
DonkeyHoteii'm proud to report that i was the one who brought it up here first18:23
akkWeird, I've been doing a bunch of wikipedia lookups this morning and they've been working here.18:26
DonkeyHoteiwikipedia still works unfettered if you are a user of NoScript, sadly18:27
akkah18:27
pleia2yeah, they just use javascript for the "blackout"18:28
akkMaybe I should feel guilty that the net's still working for me. :)18:30
DonkeyHoteiyes. BURN, WITCH! j/k18:32
DarkwingThere we go... blacked out my site.19:08
nhainesLooks like the presenter system for Ubucon is running precise nice and easy.19:25
akkThe presenter system being laptops provided in the rooms?19:26
nhainesakk: The presenter system being my personal desktop computer with a Velociraptor hard drive donated for the weekend by a coworker, tha I lug to the conference.19:27
nhainess/tha/that/19:27
akkah, your presenter system, thought you meant something conference-wide19:27
nhainesUbucon-wide.  :)19:28
akkah19:28
nhainesBetween the Velociraptor drive and backup thumb drives, should be perfect for presentations.19:29
nhainesIt's booting pretty slow, though.  Might drop back to oneiric (or dual boot).19:45
akkThat's a bummer, if boot time has gotten slower.19:55
akkBTW, I installed oneiric last night on the ExoPC for the booth.19:56
akkIt's pretty much ready to go, but it has some issues -- like Banshee keeps popping up every minute or two, I have no idea why.19:56
akkBooth people are more than welcome to configure things to make it work better. :)19:57
nhainesakk: when I unplug the network cable it drops from 49s bootup to 14s bootup.  So It's probably just a work-in-progress sort of thing.19:58
DarkwingDisable network boot in the BIOS19:59
nhainesAs I'm auditing the boot process from bootloader to desktop, I doubt that is applicable.19:59
akkOneiric hangs for 3+ minutes at boot if there's no network available. :( Pangolin probably does too.19:59
Darkwingahhh19:59
nhainesakk: opposite for me!20:00
akkI can't imagine who thought it was a good idea to make boot dependent on configuring the network, on an OS that can run on laptops.20:00
nhainesWell, with precise, anyway.  Oneiric doesn't care.20:00
DonkeyHoteii run oneiric and wifi connects only after the desktop appears, pretty quickly20:01
akkIf there's an entry in /etc/network/interfaces that involves DHCP, then the boot will wait on DHCP for minutes.20:01
nhainesHmm, that's odd.20:01
nhainesSeems like that should background.20:01
akkYou might think.20:01
DonkeyHoteibug20:02
akkUnfortunately the networking stuff isn't scriptable to the extent where I can just edit /etc/init.d/networking and add an & after the dhcp20:02
akk(the dhcp is coming from something deep inside ifconfig or ifup or some other C program)20:02
akkI should probably add something to /etc/init.d/something-called-early that does a rm /etc/network/interfaces.20:03
DonkeyHoteinot if there's something in there you want20:03
akkyeah, but at least I can always copy something there later20:04
akkthough I like having the network available early if it's actually there20:04
akkAt SCALE I'll probably have to have networking turned off anyway, unless they have a WPA network available (nobody seems to know).20:05
DonkeyHoteiscale connectivity was never good20:06
akkI wasn't able to get a signal most of last year ... I think I got one for a few minutes at a time, a few times20:07
akkbut my new laptop doesn't seem able to talk to open/802.11b networks at all (Broadcom, probably a bug in the driver?)20:07
akkI ordered a new Intel wifi card, but I'm a bit nervous about opening up my laptop for the first time a day before a conference20:08
akkso I might chicken out on that.20:08
DonkeyHoteithere are several competing drivers for broadcom, so try a different one20:09
akkI thought there were several drivers because there were several chips? Didn't know I could use a different driver with this chip.20:10
akk(brcm80211 is the driver, I think)20:11
DonkeyHoteidepends which chip it is20:11
DonkeyHoteisome have more than one driver and some don't20:11
akkI think it's a brcm431320:12
DonkeyHoteifollow the dmesg-brick road20:12
akk(or maybe 3413, I get those confused)20:12
nhainesakk: nothing like upgrading a computer the day before an important conference to get the adrenaline running!20:14
akkDonkeyHotei: dmesg doesn't actually give a model, just "Broadcom BCM43xx"20:16
DonkeyHoteibah20:17
DonkeyHoteinot on any line?20:17
akkI've grepped -i broadcom and -i brcm20:17
DonkeyHoteitry grepping 4320:17
akkI knew you were going to say that20:18
DonkeyHoteithough, not every model in the 43xx line actually begins with 4320:18
akkThe only thing 43 matches that wasn't shown in the other lines is: "Applying 4313 WARs"20:19
akkwhich I suspect is the chip just because grepping for broadcom linux finds a lot of 4313 references20:19
akkthough I don't know what a WAR is in that context.20:20
nhainesIn A.D. 2101 war was beginning.20:20
akk(war is not an easy thing to google for :)20:20
DonkeyHoteidefinitely not a song by edwin starr20:21
akkI also never found a way to google for "my broadcom works on WPA but not on open networks"20:21
akkLots of pages contain both words WPA and open, or 802.11b and 802.11g -- the trick is googling for cases where one works and the other doesn't.20:22
jtatumhttp://thedailywtf.com/ good sopa page20:35
akkheh20:39
akkThat bit about the joys of discovering a new phone number -- that even applied to the early web (pre search engines).20:40
akkI remember URLs got passed around word-of-mouth -- "Hey, there's a BOOKSTORE on the web now!" "Oh, yeah? Cool! How do I see it?"20:42
jtatumpre-working search engines i suppose :)20:44
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