[03:27] <Darkwing> Is Mark bringing the penguin suit?
[06:19] <philipballew_> bkerensa, how did yhou block your website? im looking to shutdown my wp hosted site today
[06:21] <DonkeyHotei> [Mon 2012-01-16 05:26:12 PM PST] <DonkeyHotei> <script type="text/javascript" src="//js.sopablackout.org/sopablackout.js"></script>
[06:22] <philipballew_> i need to do that on my wp site i beleive
[06:22] <DonkeyHotei> you're late
[06:22] <DonkeyHotei> wikipedia is already blacked out
[06:22] <philipballew_> no im not. here in california its the 17th
[06:22] <DonkeyHotei> i know that
[06:22] <DonkeyHotei> aren't they going by utc?
[06:23] <DonkeyHotei> or at least est
[06:23] <pleia2> est
[06:23] <pleia2> washington dc time ;)
[06:23] <philipballew_> yeah, but i made my script to do pacific
[06:23] <philipballew_> im lame like that
[06:23] <philipballew_> my wp theeme doesnt support pluggins, so im gonna switch
[06:24] <DonkeyHotei> no google's main page today is what's lame
[06:33] <philipballew_> my wordpress site doesnt support plugins :(
[06:41] <philipballew_> http://philipballew.wordpress.com/ down
[06:42]  * philipballew_ signing out
[07:11] <bkerensa_> philipballew: Not sure which one there are many
[07:12] <bkerensa_> :(
[07:12] <bkerensa_> my net is really broke atm so I cant even check
[07:12] <pleia2> bkerensa secretly moved to kenya to replace grantbow and didn't tell us
[07:12] <pleia2> why is your internet so terrible? :)
[07:14] <bkerensa_> well
[07:14] <bkerensa_> the main Access Point went down
[07:14] <bkerensa_> and I cant access it at all
[07:14] <bkerensa_> its not responding to ping, telnet, http nothing
[07:14] <pleia2> main access point?
[07:15] <bkerensa_> Yeah I live adjacent to one of the hotels I do wifi for
[07:15] <pleia2> ah
[07:15] <bkerensa_> so I have to wait maybe till tomorrow for our maintainance guy to come out and go on the roof and take down the AP so I can reset the device
[07:15] <bkerensa_> or potentially replace it
[07:15] <pleia2> fun
[07:15] <bkerensa_> and its snowing
[07:15] <bkerensa_> so idk
[07:15] <bkerensa_> :(
[07:15] <pleia2> I want snow
[07:16] <bkerensa_> I dont
[07:16] <pleia2> but I have to say, it is cold
[07:16]  * bkerensa_ sends to California
[07:16] <pleia2> 38F!
[07:16] <pleia2> actually getting below freezing in the north bay this week
[07:16] <bkerensa_> anyways yeah I cant get this AP to respond for the life of me its not broadcasting at all :( problem is it uses POE
[07:16] <bkerensa_> I think to replace it might cost $1000
[07:17] <pleia2> eek
[07:17] <bkerensa_> maybe I will go get Clear tomorrow :)
[14:01] <ryaxnb_> anyone having internet issues?
[14:01] <ryaxnb_> in Central Coast?
[17:02] <pleia2> boo, not sure my chumby8 will be here before I leave
[17:04] <pleia2> supposed to get here tomorrow, but mail comes late, I might need to leave before it arrives
[18:18] <Darkwing> Nice!
[18:18] <Darkwing> Wikipedia is down
[18:19] <Darkwing> :D
[18:20] <DonkeyHotei> has been for ages
[18:20] <Darkwing> just noticed that it's down in protest to SOPA
[18:20] <Darkwing> I'm thinking that is going to be one of my hot topics for this weekend.
[18:22] <DonkeyHotei> it's already been a hot topic in this channel for more than 24 hours
[18:23] <DonkeyHotei> i'm proud to report that i was the one who brought it up here first
[18:26] <akk> Weird, I've been doing a bunch of wikipedia lookups this morning and they've been working here.
[18:27] <DonkeyHotei> wikipedia still works unfettered if you are a user of NoScript, sadly
[18:27] <akk> ah
[18:28] <pleia2> yeah, they just use javascript for the "blackout"
[18:30] <akk> Maybe I should feel guilty that the net's still working for me. :)
[18:32] <DonkeyHotei> yes. BURN, WITCH! j/k
[19:08] <Darkwing> There we go... blacked out my site.
[19:25] <nhaines> Looks like the presenter system for Ubucon is running precise nice and easy.
[19:26] <akk> The presenter system being laptops provided in the rooms?
[19:27] <nhaines> akk: The presenter system being my personal desktop computer with a Velociraptor hard drive donated for the weekend by a coworker, tha I lug to the conference.
[19:27] <nhaines> s/tha/that/
[19:27] <akk> ah, your presenter system, thought you meant something conference-wide
[19:28] <nhaines> Ubucon-wide.  :)
[19:28] <akk> ah
[19:29] <nhaines> Between the Velociraptor drive and backup thumb drives, should be perfect for presentations.
[19:45] <nhaines> It's booting pretty slow, though.  Might drop back to oneiric (or dual boot).
[19:55] <akk> That's a bummer, if boot time has gotten slower.
[19:56] <akk> BTW, I installed oneiric last night on the ExoPC for the booth.
[19:56] <akk> It's pretty much ready to go, but it has some issues -- like Banshee keeps popping up every minute or two, I have no idea why.
[19:57] <akk> Booth people are more than welcome to configure things to make it work better. :)
[19:58] <nhaines> akk: when I unplug the network cable it drops from 49s bootup to 14s bootup.  So It's probably just a work-in-progress sort of thing.
[19:59] <Darkwing> Disable network boot in the BIOS
[19:59] <nhaines> As I'm auditing the boot process from bootloader to desktop, I doubt that is applicable.
[19:59] <akk> Oneiric hangs for 3+ minutes at boot if there's no network available. :( Pangolin probably does too.
[19:59] <Darkwing> ahhh
[20:00] <nhaines> akk: opposite for me!
[20:00] <akk> I can't imagine who thought it was a good idea to make boot dependent on configuring the network, on an OS that can run on laptops.
[20:00] <nhaines> Well, with precise, anyway.  Oneiric doesn't care.
[20:01] <DonkeyHotei> i run oneiric and wifi connects only after the desktop appears, pretty quickly
[20:01] <akk> If there's an entry in /etc/network/interfaces that involves DHCP, then the boot will wait on DHCP for minutes.
[20:01] <nhaines> Hmm, that's odd.
[20:01] <nhaines> Seems like that should background.
[20:01] <akk> You might think.
[20:02] <DonkeyHotei> bug
[20:02] <akk> Unfortunately the networking stuff isn't scriptable to the extent where I can just edit /etc/init.d/networking and add an & after the dhcp
[20:02] <akk> (the dhcp is coming from something deep inside ifconfig or ifup or some other C program)
[20:03] <akk> I should probably add something to /etc/init.d/something-called-early that does a rm /etc/network/interfaces.
[20:03] <DonkeyHotei> not if there's something in there you want
[20:04] <akk> yeah, but at least I can always copy something there later
[20:04] <akk> though I like having the network available early if it's actually there
[20:05] <akk> At SCALE I'll probably have to have networking turned off anyway, unless they have a WPA network available (nobody seems to know).
[20:06] <DonkeyHotei> scale connectivity was never good
[20:07] <akk> I wasn't able to get a signal most of last year ... I think I got one for a few minutes at a time, a few times
[20:07] <akk> but my new laptop doesn't seem able to talk to open/802.11b networks at all (Broadcom, probably a bug in the driver?)
[20:08] <akk> I ordered a new Intel wifi card, but I'm a bit nervous about opening up my laptop for the first time a day before a conference
[20:08] <akk> so I might chicken out on that.
[20:09] <DonkeyHotei> there are several competing drivers for broadcom, so try a different one
[20:10] <akk> I thought there were several drivers because there were several chips? Didn't know I could use a different driver with this chip.
[20:11] <akk> (brcm80211 is the driver, I think)
[20:11] <DonkeyHotei> depends which chip it is
[20:11] <DonkeyHotei> some have more than one driver and some don't
[20:12] <akk> I think it's a brcm4313
[20:12] <DonkeyHotei> follow the dmesg-brick road
[20:12] <akk> (or maybe 3413, I get those confused)
[20:14] <nhaines> akk: nothing like upgrading a computer the day before an important conference to get the adrenaline running!
[20:16] <akk> DonkeyHotei: dmesg doesn't actually give a model, just "Broadcom BCM43xx"
[20:17] <DonkeyHotei> bah
[20:17] <DonkeyHotei> not on any line?
[20:17] <akk> I've grepped -i broadcom and -i brcm
[20:17] <DonkeyHotei> try grepping 43
[20:18] <akk> I knew you were going to say that
[20:18] <DonkeyHotei> though, not every model in the 43xx line actually begins with 43
[20:19] <akk> The only thing 43 matches that wasn't shown in the other lines is: "Applying 4313 WARs"
[20:19] <akk> which I suspect is the chip just because grepping for broadcom linux finds a lot of 4313 references
[20:20] <akk> though I don't know what a WAR is in that context.
[20:20] <nhaines> In A.D. 2101 war was beginning.
[20:20] <akk> (war is not an easy thing to google for :)
[20:21] <DonkeyHotei> definitely not a song by edwin starr
[20:21] <akk> I also never found a way to google for "my broadcom works on WPA but not on open networks"
[20:22] <akk> Lots of pages contain both words WPA and open, or 802.11b and 802.11g -- the trick is googling for cases where one works and the other doesn't.
[20:35] <jtatum> http://thedailywtf.com/ good sopa page
[20:39] <akk> heh
[20:40] <akk> That bit about the joys of discovering a new phone number -- that even applied to the early web (pre search engines).
[20:42] <akk> I remember URLs got passed around word-of-mouth -- "Hey, there's a BOOKSTORE on the web now!" "Oh, yeah? Cool! How do I see it?"
[20:44] <jtatum> pre-working search engines i suppose :)