[00:08] <RAOF> bryce: In Melbourne, yes.  Not in Heathrow.
[00:09] <Sarvatt> heathrow is hands down the worst airport i've ever been to.. terminal 5 wasn't as bad as 3 though
[00:10] <Sarvatt> telling you what gate your flight will be at 30 minutes before the gate closes, and it takes 20 minutes to get to it if you're in the wrong place?
[00:10] <Sarvatt> then making you take a bus out to the plane and stand in the cold waiting to board on the tarmac
[00:15] <bryce> I got stuck in chicago once where they didn't let us offload luggage.  Had to scrounge up a change of clothes and toiletries from hotel gift shops.  Ugh.  Was a nice hotel though.
[00:16] <bryce> ever since, I always carry a change of clothes and toothbrush in my carryon bag
[00:16] <RAOF> I'm going to consider that.
[00:17] <RAOF> Particularly since the lounges I've got access to often have shower facilities (the BA/Qantas lounge in Terminal 3 is really nice).
[00:18] <Sarvatt> bryce: BA gives you toothbrushes :)
[00:18] <Sarvatt> RAOF: which lounge did you go to in terminal 3? the new one?
[00:18] <Sarvatt> with a spa and crap
[00:19] <RAOF> I don't think it's new, but it does indeed have a spa and crap :)
[00:20] <Sarvatt> there was one that was new for priority pass this year in the back of the book and not with the other heathrow ones, missed that we could use it
[00:20] <bryce> RAOF, of course after getting all that set up, I've never needed it.  But I figure the one time I don't bring it, I'll get stuck somewhere.
[00:20] <RAOF> The nice (?) thing about travelling from Australia is that your first flight is always super-long-haul, so it's always worthwhile to change into a new set of clothes at the end of it ;)
[00:21] <Sarvatt> sounds like me bringing all manner of medicines in case i get sick and i haven't gotten ubuflu since that first trip :)
[00:23] <RAOF> cnd: You had some autofoo droppings in your xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse upload to ubuntu-x-swat/x-staging.  There's nothing you need to do, this is just a friendly reminder to pay attention to the files dpkg says are modified :)
[00:23] <cnd> RAOF, I don't remember uploading vmmouse...
[00:23] <cnd> RAOF, was it just autogen.sh?
[00:24] <RAOF> cnd: It was a log from a failed configure run.
[00:24] <cnd> hmm... I wouldn't have ever built that
[00:24] <cnd> so I don't know where the genesis of that is :)
[00:24] <RAOF> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-staging/+sourcepub/2143616/+listing-archive-extra says otherwise :)
[00:24] <cnd> yeah, I signed it and uploaded
[00:25] <RAOF> Eh.
[00:25] <cnd> I probably saw the message, but didn't bother to do anything because it would require a change in the packaging and I was lazy :)
[00:25] <cnd> oh wait, I did have to change the packaging
[00:25] <cnd> hmm.. yeah, I should have caught that
[00:25] <cnd> thanks for pointing it out :)
[00:26] <cnd> I guess I do need to pay a bit closer attention
[00:27] <RAOF> You've got core-dev now, right?
[00:31] <cnd> yep
[00:32] <RAOF> Looks like utouch-frame needs build-dep loving.
[00:32] <cnd> hmm?
[00:32] <cnd> yes, looks like it does
[00:32] <RAOF> powerpc has tried to build it before libxi and x11proto-input :)
[00:33] <RAOF> Thanks, PPC.  At least you've done *something* useful in the last year :)
[00:33] <cnd> argh, second time I hit that today, libxi-dev is in epoch 2...
[00:35] <RAOF> Looks like libxi also needs inputproto bump?
[00:35] <RAOF> I can fix these up for you if you like.
[00:36] <cnd> I fixed utouch-frame
[00:36] <cnd> I thought libxi was set up properly
[00:36] <RAOF> failed to build on armhf; it tried to build before x11proto-input again, and didn't dep-wait.
[00:36] <cnd> ahh yes, it needs to be bumped to depend on 2.1.99.5
[00:36] <RAOF> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/90309245/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.libxi_2%3A1.5.99.2-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[00:37] <cnd> because of the 2.1.99.4 precise folly
[00:37] <cnd> RAOF, yeah, if you don't mind, please fix up libxi
[00:37] <RAOF> Wilco
[00:37] <cnd> the good news is that because we are building all the arches, we get put into the "real" archive queue
[00:38] <cnd> so we're not stuck behind all the PPA builds
[00:38] <cnd> something like that
[00:38] <RAOF> Pity it doesn't auto-retry dep-waits :)
[00:38] <cnd> and IS was nice enough to bump the prio on the x11proto-input build, so that's done too
[00:39] <RAOF> Yeah.
[00:40] <RAOF> You haven't pushed xi 0ubuntu2 to git?
[00:40]  * RAOF folds that in.
[01:42] <Sarvatt> RAOF: did you already merge intel?
[01:42] <Sarvatt> its not in git so was wondering, experimental or unstable? :)
[01:44] <Sarvatt> uxa is in maintenance soon to die only important fixes mode in git so experimental disabling sna might be a good idea
[01:51] <Sarvatt> RAOF: should i get intel merged in git for ubuntu tomorrow is what i'm asking basically :)
[01:52] <RAOF> Sarvatt: I've merged 2.17; 2.18 isn't released yet, is it?
[01:52] <Sarvatt> nope but kibi has some git snapshots in experimental and there are only a handful of really conservative changes
[01:52] <Sarvatt> but if you have 2.17 already done locally that works too
[01:53] <RAOF> It's not in the ubuntu+1 branch?
[01:53] <Sarvatt> it was just if we were starting from scratch i was asking which would be preferred
[01:53] <Sarvatt> i didnt see it, lemme double check..
[01:53] <RAOF> It's been in the staging PPA forever ;)
[01:53] <Sarvatt> theres no ubuntu+1 branch
[01:54] <RAOF> Urgh.  Apparently I didn't push it.
[01:54] <Sarvatt> ubuntu branch has my changes at HEAD for 2.15.901
[01:54] <Sarvatt> ah ok
[01:55] <Sarvatt> why +1 branch?
[01:55] <RAOF> 2.17 pushed to git.
[01:55] <RAOF> Because I didn't particularly want to upload it twice :)
[01:56] <RAOF> And it wasn't clear how long the 1.11 transition was going to take.
[01:56] <RAOF> Yay!  XServer has almost built!
[01:57] <Sarvatt> well thats orthogonal to xserver, and yay you had it using origin/ubuntu not a new branch anyway :)
[01:57] <Sarvatt> thanks for pushing it
[01:58] <RAOF> Well, it would have needed a rebuild against the newer server.
[02:24] <RAOF> Ok.  I'm off for lunch and errands.  By the time I get back xserver should be done and I can finish pushing the world to staging.
[02:42] <Sarvatt> LIBGL_SHOW_FPS=1 is so kick ass, being able to show speed differences between gpus in arbitrary things like webgl in chromium is really handy :)
[03:57] <Sarvatt> wow, at this rate tomorrow i might be able to put xserver 1.12 in edgers
[03:57] <Sarvatt> i only had it all prepared on jan 6th :)
[03:58] <Sarvatt> darn ppa builders have been backed up since then, having upgrades broken for 8+ hours isn't an option this time
[05:01] <Prf_Jakob> Sarvatt: cool!
[11:59] <tjaalton> ricotz: I assume you meant GPL-2+ for the libwacom packaging?
[12:00] <tjaalton> upstream has no mention on GPL on it, weird
[12:00] <tjaalton> or any other license for that matter
[12:03] <tjaalton> ah, MIT of course
[12:08] <tjaalton> ricotz: meh, put GPL-3+ since I had it handy..
[12:19] <ricotz> tjaalton, hi, yeah please do
[12:19] <ricotz> tjaalton, i hope you have seen 0.2
[12:19] <tjaalton> yep
[12:19] <ricotz> ok
[12:28] <tjaalton> uploaded
[12:32] <ricotz> nice, hoping jonathan is happy now ;)
[12:40] <tjaalton> apparently was
[12:41] <tjaalton> seb128: libwacom is now in precise
[12:41] <seb128> tjaalton, I noticed, thanks!
[12:41] <tjaalton> np
[12:41] <jcristau> gpl packaging for mit package?
[12:42] <tjaalton> can't be mixed?
[12:43] <jcristau> can be mixed, but the result is gpl, so it's a bit weird
[12:44] <tjaalton> hmm right
[12:45] <jcristau> (that said for hysterical raisins the x packaging is at least partly gpl, so it's not like there's no precedent)
[12:46] <tjaalton> well, now that I look at the dep5 page, "permissive" might be an alternative for the packaging..
[12:48] <tjaalton> ricotz: http://pastebin.com/PfifLp2K ?
[12:50] <ricotz> tjaalton, it is fine with me
[12:51] <tjaalton> thanks, I'll commit that change
[12:54] <tjaalton> hm, source format 1.0 doesn't like .bz2 tarballs?
[12:55] <tjaalton> yeah
[12:55] <tjaalton> so it's a native package now, meh
[12:57] <tjaalton> how hard would it be to include autogen.sh in the tarballs
[14:07] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: i just attached my gsd-debug-randr log - i hope it's helpful
[14:07] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: i also tried disbling the media keys, like you mentioned yesterday, but that mad eno difference at all
[15:58] <ricotz> tjaalton, hmm, you changed libwacom to debsrc v1.0 :\
[15:58] <tjaalton> ricotz: yes, but git has it in 3.0 again
[15:58] <ricotz> tjaalton, this is really a step backwards
[15:58] <tjaalton> why?
[15:58] <ricotz> good
[15:59] <tjaalton> 3.0 is bad for vcs
[15:59] <tjaalton> i removed autogen.sh, which isn't in the tarball
[15:59] <ricotz> i am prefering to use the proper upstream tarball
[15:59] <tjaalton> it is the upstream tarball
[15:59] <ricotz> tjaalton, i am fine with using pristinetar though
[15:59] <ricotz> ok
[16:00] <tjaalton> with 1.0 you have the diff in diff.gz
[16:00] <ricotz> i only saw the ubuntu upload so far
[16:00] <tjaalton> with 3.0 in separate patch blob
[16:00] <ricotz> i know the difference between them
[16:00] <tjaalton> and basically, if you have other patches you're screwed
[16:01] <tjaalton> after working with several packages in git I realize why 3.0 is making people crazy..
[16:02] <ricotz> hmm, works for e
[16:02] <ricotz> `me
[16:12] <hallyn> to switch from nvidia to vesa, can i just add 'Driver: vesa' to xorg.conf (from rescue boot)?
[16:13] <hallyn> (i'll try in a min, but if it fails it'll take me 15 mins to reboot from livecd, so thought i'd ask first)
[16:14] <hallyn> all right, off to go try
[16:22] <tseliot> tjaalton: are we aiming for mesa 7.12 for precise?
[16:22] <tjaalton> tseliot: it's 8.0
[16:22] <tjaalton> and yes
[16:23] <tseliot> tjaalton: thanks
[20:35] <cnd> woot, qt4-x11 built for armhf
[20:35] <cnd> and it only took 14 hours, 57 minutes, 58.2 second
[20:42] <tjaalton> I've done some work on mesa, but the current debian-experimental branch has lost all the history about debian/, and merging to ubuntu is a huge PITA because of that
[23:02] <cnd> RAOF, what's going on with xserver-xorg-video-glide?
[23:02] <cnd> it doesn't seem like it should be arch: any
[23:03] <RAOF> cnd: I think that's right.  It's just that its build-deps are only satisfiable on amd64 i386 ia64 alpha.
[23:04] <cnd> so it will perpetually be in dep-wait on arm*?
[23:05] <RAOF> Yup.
[23:06] <cnd> ok...
[23:06] <cnd> that seems wrong to me...
[23:06] <RAOF> That's how it is in the main archive.
[23:07] <RAOF> I think that's the expected behaviour for packages with arch-specific dependencies.
[23:07] <RAOF> Which aren't arch-specific themselves.
[23:08] <cnd> ok
[23:08] <cnd> so we're just waiting on qt4-x11 armel
[23:10] <RAOF> Ah, poor armel :)
[23:10] <RAOF> Oh!
[23:10] <RAOF> Thinking of poor armel, that's reminded me that I also need to rebuild some stuff for it.
[23:11] <RAOF> And do the proprietary drivers, too.
[23:13] <RAOF> I shall move out to the veranda and do those uploads.
[23:16]  * cnd wishes he had a veranda, though he wouldn't use it today
[23:16] <cnd> slush all over the ground here
[23:17] <bryce> cnd, has it finally gotten wet enough for you?
[23:17] <cnd> ummm, yeah, you can call off the dogs now :)
[23:18] <cnd> though I'd probably be fine if it weren't quite so cold and didn't come down as snow/sleet