Riddell | 4.8 tars are up! | 00:15 |
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Darkwing | Riddell: Yeah | 01:54 |
Darkwing | hehehe. Got a new google number. | 02:22 |
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Quintasan | \o | 08:52 |
Riddell | another review http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/11/17/kubuntu-11-10-review/ | 10:03 |
Riddell | actually this one compares us against our rivals http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/11/17/top-6-kde-distributions-of-2011/ | 10:06 |
Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packagin updated | 10:31 |
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Quintasan | k rebooting to linux | 10:55 |
Tm_T | Quintasan: from Kubuntu? | 11:02 |
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Riddell | !ninjas | 11:12 |
ubottu | Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel | 11:12 |
ScottK | Sigh. | 13:53 |
ScottK | printer-config-kde currently needs python-gtk2. | 13:54 |
ScottK | maco: Would you be able to do a really simple port of something from python-gtk2 -> python-kde4 (or even python-qt4)? It's one window. | 13:55 |
Riddell | ScottK: you're talking about system-config-printer-kde? | 13:57 |
ScottK | Riddell: Yes. | 13:57 |
ScottK | Sorry. | 13:57 |
ScottK | We currently ship a symlink to /usr/share/system-config-printer/pysmb.py and it uses python-gtk2. | 13:57 |
Riddell | and some part of system-config-printer(-gnome) that it uses needs python-gtk2? | 13:57 |
ScottK | Yes. | 13:57 |
ScottK | See the perform_authentication function in class AuthContext. | 13:58 |
Riddell | that probably means pysmb.py has that dialog added since I looked at the issue | 13:58 |
Riddell | so yes I guess system-config-printer-kde needs to take a copy of pysmb.py and port the gtk bits | 13:59 |
Riddell | ScottK: how did you notice this? | 13:59 |
ScottK | I was troubleshooting the problem that schnelle brought to my attention yesterday and ran it in a konsole session. I noticed some gtk related warnings (I have python-gtk2 installed) | 14:00 |
Riddell | hmm | 14:00 |
Riddell | please report it to bugs.kde.org so I don't forget about it | 14:00 |
ScottK | OK. | 14:00 |
Riddell | system-config-printer-kde needs someone to take some better care of it, me or anyone else | 14:00 |
Riddell | it's on my todo list but as ever who knows when I'll get to it | 14:01 |
ScottK | I don't mind helping out a bit, but I know nothing about gui programming. | 14:01 |
Riddell | hopefully this cycle for a problem like that | 14:01 |
ScottK | I think maco could do the port in a very short time if she has time. | 14:03 |
Riddell | yes she would be able to | 14:05 |
ScottK | Riddell: Bug 291958 | 14:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 291958 in linuxlogo (Ubuntu) "Please sync linuxlogo 5.04-1 (universe) to 5.04-2 from Debian (unstable)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291958 | 14:07 |
ScottK | err KDE Bug 291958 | 14:07 |
ubottu | KDE bug 291958 in general "system-config-printer/pysmb py uses python-gtk2, so it needs porting to PyKDE4" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291958 | 14:07 |
Riddell | thanks | 14:17 |
ScottK | I checked the rest of the files we symlink and none of them use gtk. | 14:18 |
Riddell | phew | 14:18 |
Riddell | grr routing to ec2 lost | 14:34 |
Riddell | I blame whatever that US bill is that will shut down the internet | 14:34 |
ScottK | ec2 is not famous for its reliability even under optimal legal conditions. | 14:47 |
Riddell | hah came back | 14:49 |
Riddell | 15 mins out, I was just about to start a new one | 14:49 |
Riddell | calligra compile latest breakage, can't see any error http://paste.kde.org/189182/ | 15:47 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: moar backlog? | 15:55 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/calligra_2.3.86-0ubuntu6_armel.build | 15:59 |
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maco | ScottK, Riddell: yes i can do that, but im horribly unreliable if i lack a deadline. so, bug # and due date? | 16:15 |
ScottK | maco: KDE Bug 291958 and we need it before feature freeze, so how about January 26 (one week) so we can get it in before the Alpha 2 freeze? | 16:18 |
ubottu | KDE bug 291958 in general "system-config-printer/pysmb py uses python-gtk2, so it needs porting to PyKDE4" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291958 | 16:18 |
ScottK | maco: How does that sound? | 16:19 |
maco | doable | 16:19 |
ScottK | Kewl. | 16:19 |
maco | kde switched to git, huh? | 16:20 |
ScottK | maco: You can do it as a patch to our kdeadmin package and then leave it to Riddell to push upstream if you want. | 16:21 |
maco | Riddell: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeutils/printer-applet/repository is that the one? | 16:22 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: looking? | 16:23 |
shadeslayer | s/?// | 16:23 |
ScottK | maco: Yes. That's the upstream one. | 16:24 |
ScottK | maco: Oh, wait. no. | 16:24 |
Riddell | maco: umm yes I don't think I've looked at it since kdeutils moved to git | 16:24 |
Riddell | oh then the kdeadmin bit | 16:25 |
ScottK | maco: It's http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeadmin/system-config-printer-kde/ | 16:25 |
ScottK | kdeadmin didn't move yet. | 16:25 |
maco | oh | 16:25 |
maco | projects.kde.org isnt very helpful on the searching :-/ | 16:25 |
maco | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kde-common/svn/svn_instructions.txt?view=markup <-- went away | 16:28 |
maco | i'll just do the deb thing i guess | 16:28 |
maco | kde's vcs changes are confusing | 16:28 |
maco | ScottK, Riddell: so should i just be smooshing the current pysmb or is there some reason that itd need to be preserved (compatibility with something?) and a pysmbqt.py or something made and linked in instead? | 16:31 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: hmmm ... Can't find anything on the first pass | 16:32 |
ScottK | maco: Just take the current pysmb that we symlink to in our package and port it to Qt/KDE. Then we'll put it in our package. No need to change the name. | 16:32 |
ScottK | i.e. smoosh the current one if I understand you correctly. | 16:33 |
maco | ok | 16:33 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 16:33 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: no, weird isn't it | 16:38 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 16:38 |
ts2 | I wonder if passing -Wl,--verbose will give any clues | 16:39 |
Riddell | ts2: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/VERBOSE | 16:51 |
ts2 | hmm, that actually looks fine | 16:53 |
ts2 | Riddell: is it cut off at the bottom? | 16:54 |
ts2 | other that that, I don't see anything that would be an error | 16:54 |
Riddell | no that's all | 16:55 |
ts2 | I ask because it ends with "/lib/ar", which seems incomplete | 16:56 |
Riddell | /lib/ar is a directory with libraries in it | 16:56 |
Riddell | hmm no it's not | 16:56 |
Riddell | /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi is | 16:56 |
Riddell | dunno that's all it gives when redirecting stdout to a file | 16:56 |
ts2 | maybe you hit the argument length limit? | 16:57 |
Riddell | stderr just says collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 16:57 |
Riddell | surely it wouldn't run the command if there was an argument length limit | 16:57 |
ts2 | I'm not sure, but there really isn't a way to check from within a program that the arguments are cut off | 16:59 |
ts2 | I expect it'd be make that's responsible for checking that | 16:59 |
ts2 | I'm just throwing wild stabs in the dark though | 17:00 |
Riddell | yeah thanks for trying | 17:01 |
Riddell | think I'll see if it compiles without that directory for now | 17:02 |
Quintasan | DAGH | 17:03 |
Quintasan | Riddell: Did anyone pick kdelibs yet? | 17:04 |
Quintasan | I broke my install and I just finished reinstalling magic | 17:04 |
Riddell | Quintasan: yeah I've done all the yellow ones on the ninjas wiki page | 17:04 |
Riddell | Quintasan: say if you want to help and I'll update the ninjas page but I think I've done all I will for today | 17:06 |
Riddell | darkwing is missing the community council meeting | 17:07 |
Quintasan | Riddell: Please do, I'm almost done | 17:08 |
Riddell | Quintasan: should be it | 17:11 |
Quintasan | o7 | 17:11 |
* Quintasan gets to work | 17:11 | |
Riddell | say if you need ec2 help | 17:11 |
Quintasan | Riddell: What the the kde source tarballs secret release grounds address? | 17:15 |
Riddell | Quintasan: ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org | 17:15 |
Quintasan | Thanks | 17:15 |
* Quintasan curses PulseAudio | 17:19 | |
Quintasan | yofel_: I bump the MINIMUM_KDE_VERSION := 4:4.7.97 in debian/rules in meta-kde, righto? | 17:24 |
yofel_ | Quintasan: that and DEV_LATEST_VERSION | 17:30 |
Quintasan | k | 17:30 |
yofel_ | maybe PREV too, not sure what that was for | 17:30 |
yofel_ | hm, yeah, PREV too | 17:31 |
Darkwing | talk about two different worlds | 17:39 |
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yofel | evening Darkwing ^^ | 17:39 |
Darkwing | o/ | 17:42 |
yofel | Quintasan: what packages are you doing? | 17:42 |
Quintasan | kdeadmin | 17:42 |
Quintasan | 1#!%@#%$@##@%@ PULSEAUDIO GO DIE IN A FIRE | 17:42 |
Quintasan | WHY CAN'T IT JUST WORK T_T | 17:42 |
Riddell | Quintasan: I did meta-kde | 17:42 |
Riddell | just add kubuntu-ninjas to your sources.list | 17:43 |
Quintasan | Riddell: Yeah, I just realised I did not bump kdepimlibs and I was whining why it doesnt work | 17:43 |
Quintasan | plus PulseAudio is driving me mad since no microphone input | 17:43 |
shadeslayer | did someone test KDevelop? | 17:45 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: oh sorry I didn't get to that | 17:45 |
yofel | should we bump any version other than kde-sc-dev-latest? I mean, it's more work, but needs less retries in the archive | 17:45 |
shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/kdevelop-custom-buildsystem_1.2.1-0ubuntu1~ppa2.dsc << Needs reviewing as well | 17:45 |
Quintasan | Riddell: Can we kill off PulseAudio next cycle please? | 17:45 |
yofel | Quintasan: hardly | 17:45 |
yofel | also: works here | 17:46 |
Quintasan | I have an old SoundBlaster Live | 17:46 |
yofel | oh | 17:46 |
Quintasan | pure alsa worked here with some tinkering | 17:46 |
Quintasan | but with PulseAudio - NO | 17:46 |
Quintasan | BECAUSE NO | 17:46 |
Quintasan | I can play sound files fine | 17:46 |
Quintasan | but no flash sound and no recording | 17:46 |
yofel | flash sounds like a pulse issue | 17:47 |
yofel | but no idea why | 17:47 |
Quintasan | Sounds like another reason to install precise | 17:48 |
Quintasan | Maybe shit will work there | 17:48 |
Riddell | Quintasan: that's a question for foundations team but I'm sure they had their reasons for choosing it | 17:48 |
* yofel does wallpapers | 17:48 | |
Quintasan | Riddell: It has been a horrible exeprience for me | 17:48 |
Quintasan | Windows had it fair share of problems but I installed kx audio drivers and it works | 17:49 |
Quintasan | no luck in Kubuntu | 17:49 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: tried OSS? | 17:49 |
Quintasan | There is the option that I am doing something horribly wrong but if a tech-oriented user can't figure this out then how normal people are supposed to do it? | 17:49 |
ScottK | Quintasan: Make maco fix it after she finishes fixing the printer stuff. | 17:50 |
ScottK | Quintasan: It just works here. | 17:50 |
Quintasan | ScottK: I still get the idea that the best solution is to nuke it | 17:50 |
Quintasan | It's a step backwards in terms of sound in Linux overall | 17:50 |
maco | dont ask me, ask crimsun | 17:51 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: Isn't that dead? | 17:51 |
ScottK | If it is or not, it's the way of the future. | 17:51 |
shadeslayer | Dunno | 17:51 |
ScottK | You're here, he isn't.... | 17:51 |
Darkwing | well, that went well | 17:51 |
rdieter | Quintasan: fyi, the pulse + flash no recording thing... is a flash bug => https://twitter.com/#!/pulseaudio/statuses/142213549459111937 | 17:51 |
Quintasan | rdieter: I'm talking about playback | 17:52 |
Quintasan | I have no sound playback in flash, and can't record anything | 17:52 |
Quintasan | no skype, no gizmo, no anything | 17:52 |
rdieter | I'm talking only about recording, playback is a separate issue | 17:52 |
ScottK | Quintasan: Consider it a productivity enhancing package. Fewer distractions. More homework done. | 17:53 |
ScottK | See, feature, not bug. | 17:53 |
Darkwing | ScottK, Riddell sorry for being disjointed. :( | 17:53 |
ScottK | It happens. It worked out. | 17:53 |
Darkwing | I meant to toss my notes on my phone n forgot | 17:53 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: read http://arunraghavan.net/2012/01/pulseaudio-vs-audioflinger-fight/ :P | 17:54 |
Darkwing | I think it was better then expected. | 17:54 |
ScottK | No sucking up though, we don't work for them .... | 17:54 |
Riddell | Darkwing: did you order any kubuntu CDs for this thing you're going to? | 17:54 |
Darkwing | yup. ill have then at the ubuntu and KDE booths | 17:55 |
Riddell | nice | 17:55 |
Darkwing | and maybe the Qt Booth if they want to showcase Qt in action. | 17:55 |
Riddell | Darkwing: do you have any stall decorations? I need to think about fosdem stall posters | 17:56 |
Darkwing | not yet. I haven't been able to afford them :( | 17:56 |
Darkwing | I let my laptop speak for itself | 17:56 |
shadeslayer | hmmm | 17:57 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: I would add a point that AudioFlinger simply works | 17:57 |
Riddell | mm, I wonder if I should say that e.v. should #MISSING: 4:4.8.0# (arch=amd64 i386)_ZN4KUrl4ListD1Ev@Base 4:4.7.0 | 17:57 |
Darkwing | last year I handed out almost 300 CDs | 17:57 |
Riddell | #MISSING: 4:4.8.0# (arch=amd64 i386)_ZN4KUrl4ListD2Ev@Base 4:4.7.0 | 17:57 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: heh, true :D | 17:57 |
Riddell | gosh what happened there | 17:57 |
Darkwing | kubuntu ones | 17:57 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: KDevelop installs and runs fine | 17:57 |
Quintasan | uploading kdeadmin | 17:57 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: did you do all the tars? | 17:58 |
shadeslayer | yus | 17:58 |
shadeslayer | muwhahaha I made it crashy | 17:58 |
Riddell | great, I should be able to look at that after I've had something to eat | 17:58 |
shadeslayer | sure | 17:58 |
Riddell | Darkwing: was saying e.v. has a plan now and I wonder if "helping event stalls" should be a budget item | 17:59 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: The new package needs review, should I upload it to revu or will you take care of it? | 17:59 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: it's in your PPA isn't it? I can get it from there and review | 17:59 |
shadeslayer | Yup | 17:59 |
shadeslayer | okay | 17:59 |
Darkwing | I would LOVE to be able to have stickers or cheap swag. even just signage would be epic | 17:59 |
CIA-96 | [kdeadmin] Michal Zajac * 144 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release | 17:59 |
shadeslayer | argh | 18:00 |
shadeslayer | KDevelop crashes on opening the source formatter | 18:00 |
Darkwing | or, I have a quasi interview with Qt this weekend. | 18:01 |
Darkwing | s/or/oh/ | 18:01 |
kubotu | Darkwing meant: "oh, I have a quasi interview with Qt this weekend." | 18:01 |
Quintasan | Oh, that's nice. | 18:01 |
Riddell | Darkwing: get a job with them and then replace qmake, you know you want to | 18:03 |
Riddell | Darkwing: did you talk to geiseri or others who have done stalls in the US before if they have spare stuff? | 18:03 |
Quintasan | YES YES YES | 18:04 |
Quintasan | KILL QMAKE | 18:04 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: ^ | 18:04 |
Darkwing | Riddell: if I can lol | 18:04 |
Darkwing | no, I haven't. I need to though. | 18:04 |
shadeslayer | Why yes | 18:05 |
shadeslayer | Weren't they retiring QMake? | 18:05 |
Riddell | not that I've heard | 18:06 |
yofel | were they? afaik they're rather fond of it | 18:06 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: Do remind me to reinstall Kubuntu when we roll out 4.8.0 | 18:06 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: Atleast you can do that .... | 18:07 |
shadeslayer | I can't even do that once Kubuntu increases the CD size to 1.5 GB | 18:07 |
yofel | use rsync? | 18:07 |
yofel | or zsync | 18:08 |
CIA-96 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/ (changelog control kde-wallpapers.install) * New upstream release - update kde-wallpapers.install | 18:08 |
yofel | hm, ubuntu-vm-builder is broken in precise :( | 18:09 |
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Quintasan | argh | 18:12 |
* Quintasan grabs kdemultimedia | 18:18 | |
yofel | hm, does someone have an idea why ktimetracker doesn't work? | 18:18 |
Quintasan | Once I'm done I'm off to do some maths | 18:18 |
yofel | seems broken since 4.7, and I can't see anything obviously wrong with the packaging | 18:18 |
CIA-96 | [kdemultimedia] Michal Zajac * 144 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release | 18:27 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: okay, kdevelop needs a small change, upstream says that we Recommend the custom build plugin instead of what I have right now ( kdevelop-custom-buildsystem enahcing kdevelop ) | 18:32 |
ScottK | Riddell: If you have time, it would be really super to get dbus-python out of binary New. There's some PyQt4 work that's waiting on it. | 18:41 |
CIA-96 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 145 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release | 18:44 |
Riddell | ScottK: accepted | 18:58 |
ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 18:58 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: do you know if kubuntu_01_appmenu_fix.diff can go upstream? | 19:04 |
* shadeslayer looks | 19:04 | |
shadeslayer | I believe so, I'll just ask the maintainers of the project | 19:05 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: what about kdevelop-php-docs ? | 19:17 |
shadeslayer | Did i miss a package? | 19:18 |
shadeslayer | ok give me 15 minutes | 19:18 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: others uploaded thanks | 19:26 |
shadeslayer | \o/ | 19:26 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: custom build system as well? | 19:27 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: yes | 19:27 |
Riddell | as I say fine for us, just not for KDE | 19:27 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: poke ScottK to review it from New | 19:27 |
shadeslayer | cuil | 19:27 |
shadeslayer | ref : http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/7da5i/police_raids_reveal_baby_farms/c06cqxb :P | 19:28 |
Riddell | uh oh ScottK's arm is out of hard disk | 19:29 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: uploaded kdevelop-php-docs to same ppa | 19:29 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: how much HDD do the ARM boxes have? | 19:29 |
sheytan_ | Hey guys | 19:30 |
shadeslayer | sheytan_: hey | 19:30 |
sheytan_ | any plans to replace kdm with ldm finally for next releas? :) | 19:30 |
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ScottK | Riddell: I'll have a look in a few inutes. | 19:32 |
yofel | nobody wrote a greeter, so... no | 19:32 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: can you let kdevelop-custom-buildsystem through New? | 19:33 |
ScottK | Perhaps a bit later. | 19:34 |
shadeslayer | sure | 19:34 |
* shadeslayer is off to study for a bit | 19:34 | |
CIA-96 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 189 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release | 19:41 |
Riddell | oh sheytan ran away | 20:11 |
jussi | Riddell: only for a few mins :P | 20:32 |
Riddell | sheytan: agateau is working on lightdm but probably it won't be ready for release | 20:58 |
Riddell | but if you're offering artwork or anything do ask him | 20:58 |
ScottK | Switching isn't precisely in line with "It's an LTS, let's keep the changes small and low risk" in any case. | 21:00 |
sheytan | artwork already done long time ago, just asking ;) | 21:07 |
* sheytan is bored with km | 21:07 | |
sheytan | kdm | 21:07 |
yofel | new kdm looks nice IMO - not as good as your ldm draft though :) | 21:07 |
sheytan | yofel can i see it | 21:08 |
sheytan | ? | 21:08 |
sheytan | make a prtscrn for me pls :) | 21:08 |
yofel | same login window, but with a lightgrey-ish background | 21:09 |
yofel | horos was too distracting | 21:09 |
sheytan | ah, know that one | 21:09 |
sheytan | anyway, ubuntu theme with ldm is way better | 21:10 |
sheytan | osx has a nice one in lion too | 21:10 |
Riddell | sheytan: it's LightDM, LDM is something different | 21:57 |
Riddell | best not to confuse | 21:57 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: hmm kdevelop compile failures | 21:57 |
ScottK | yofel: I just made a kdemultimedia change in bzr. Please be sure to pull from there again (and feel free to put your name back at the bottom of the changelog if you want) | 22:44 |
yofel | you mean Quintasan | 22:47 |
yofel | he did kdemultimedia | 22:48 |
ScottK | Oh. Sorry. | 22:49 |
ScottK | yeah. | 22:49 |
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Riddell | if I upload the packages the final step is to get the packaging from bzr and tars from ftpmaster to ensure it's the latest of everything | 22:55 |
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