[00:09] <roothorick> okay, 1) what happened to the Appearance icon in the control panel? 2) How do I disable compositing, at least temporarily?
[00:12] <Daekdroom> roothorick, 1) I think "User Interface" is what you're looking for and 2) You cannot use Unity and compositing. Log in Unity2D session.
[00:12] <Daekdroom> *use Unity without compositing
[00:15] <roothorick> wait, so there isn't a session option in control panel anymore?
[00:15] <Daekdroom> What do you mean by session option?
[00:16] <Daekdroom> I mean, what did it use to do?
[00:23] <roothorick> there was an option somewhere in CP that let you switch your default session
[00:23] <roothorick> ah whatever
[02:38] <litropy> Indicator-datetime-service is eating as much of my CPU as it can get. strace: pastebin.com/jwPN4KJx
[03:40] <litropy> Indicator-datetime-service is eating as much of my CPU as it can get. strace fragment: http://pastebin.com/jwPN4KJx
[03:57] <trism> litropy: that seems like a lot of warnings being written to stderr, modifying /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-datetime.service to look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/809316/ might give you some clues
[03:58] <trism> litropy: seems like there should be a better way, but this works, it should write a log to /tmp/indicator-datetime-*.log
[04:01] <litropy> hmm ... I'll spend the extra $11 for more functionality. I like what he's got going, though.
[04:01] <litropy> whoops, wrong chan
[04:01] <litropy> trism, gimme a sec.
[04:08] <litropy> trism, processing ...
[04:20] <litropy> trism, I'm gonna have to use vim ... this is horrible.
[04:20] <trism> litropy: why is that?
[04:21] <litropy> the whole gui is frozen, except for my cursor. so, I'm ctrl+alt+f1'ing it.
[04:22] <litropy> lol 5 second delay in typing characters
[04:23] <litropy> k, vi, then ...
[04:24] <litropy> got it open. entering your mod
[04:44] <litropy> Either I don't understand vi, or it's being really weird. Seems like both. My cursor won't go past the end of a line, so when I carriage-return, the last character goes to the next line. Furthermore, backspace ... just puts the cursor back a space.
[04:47] <litropy> joining #vi
[04:51] <trism> litropy: jjyypki# Esc j5li/bin/bash -c ' Esc $a&> /tmp/indicator-datetime.log' Esc :wq
[04:53] <litropy> trism, did it in a much longer way before I got back to you. Now rebooting.
[04:54] <litropy> thx for your help ... almost there!
[04:59] <litropy> trism, now attempting pastebin
[05:03] <litropy> trism, http://pastebin.com/2QWzwpTS
[05:04] <litropy> It's just that, over and over.
[05:04] <litropy> the file hit 1MB not a minute after boot.
[05:07] <litropy> trism, reboot wipes /tmp, right?
[05:08] <trism> litropy: yes
[05:10] <litropy> thanks.
[05:18] <litropy> trism, It's doing the same thing even when I set time to Manual.
[05:24] <trism> litropy: you should definitely file a bug with indicator-datetime, (or maybe with one of the geoclue packages) with the information you found, it shouldn't be sending so many address-provider-changed events
[05:46] <litropy> trism, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/918546
[05:51] <litropy> :shrug: now we wait.
[05:52] <snadge> whats up with the 64 bit flash plugin atm?
[07:17] <alkisg> Hi, is there any option for unity alt+tab switcher to NOT group similar windows? It's a real pain to switch between 2 gedit windows with the keyboard...
[07:17] <alkisg> I press alt+tab once to have the windows list, then 10 times to cycle between my other windows, then wait 2 seconds in the gedit button so that the 2 gedit window previews are shown, and then try to read the thumbnail to decide which is the gedit window I'm in and which one is the other I want to get to.
[07:19] <alkisg> I installed the compizconfig-settings-manager and saw some options for the unity switcher there, but there was no option to never group similar windows
[07:21] <snadge> alt `  (to the left of 1)
[07:22] <Ian_Corne> or alt ²
[07:22] <Ian_Corne> if you're belgian/french
[07:23] <snadge> but if you're french you would've surrendered before you got the opportunity to do that
[07:23] <snadge> *bdom tish*
[07:29] <Ian_Corne> at least they're not out fighting wars for oil :p
[07:29] <Ian_Corne> *bdom tish*
[07:50] <snadge> what? i thought it was the french that bombed libya?
[07:51] <snadge> oh okay and US and UK ;)
[07:51] <Rovanion> How come that traceroute6 is installed by default but not traceroute?
[07:53] <snadge> traceroute6 is part of iputils-tracepath
[07:54] <snadge> traceroute is part of traceroute
[07:54] <snadge> at least on my system anyway (precise)
[07:54] <alkisg> Ian_Corne: thanks we contined with snadge in #ayatana. No, fortunately no french kbd layout, I'd get lost with that :)
[11:26] <paulo_gomes> hi all, my system updated the new lightdm, the icon for changing session disapear. how do i choose ubuntu or ubuntu2d
[11:27] <paulo_gomes> _
[11:27] <paulo_gomes> ?
[11:30] <paulo_gomes> i'm not alone :) just saw someone with the same problem on the forums, no reply :(
[11:48] <psypher246> hello all, has anyone else been dropped down to unity-2d since the latest update about 2 days ago? Running with the nouveau driver
[12:53] <BluesKaj> HI all
[17:34] <litropy> Hi, all. I filed the folllowing bug report last night. Essentially, I'm looking for a stop-gap solution in the mean time. This might be either fooling indicator-datetime or geoclue into thinking everything is okay. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/918546
[17:38] <litropy> I also have sore biceps, and am wondering if there's anything I can install to speed up the healing process.
[17:48] <trism> litropy: out of curiosity, you don't have any other geoclue providers installed other then geoclue-ubuntu-geoip right?
[18:36] <litropy> trism, how do I check?
[18:40] <trism> litropy: dpkg -l '*geoclue*'
[18:40] <litropy> geoclue
[18:40] <litropy> geoclue-provider
[18:41] <litropy> geoclue-ubuntu-geoi
[18:41] <litropy> geoclue-yahoo
[18:41] <litropy> libgeoclue0
[18:41] <litropy> end
[18:42] <trism> litropy: are both geoclue-yahoo and geoclue-ubuntu-geoip ii?
[18:43] <trism> litropy: if so you should try uninstalling geoclue-yahoo, maybe there is some conflict between the two
[18:44] <litropy> ii, un, un, ii, ii, respectively. So that's a negative.
[18:46] <trism> litropy: oh so only geoclue-yahoo is installed?
[18:46] <litropy> trism, yes
[18:48] <litropy> trism, try installing geoip? maybe that's what's up ...
[18:48] <trism> litropy: in that case I would install geoclue-ubuntu-geoip and then uninstall geoclue-yahoo and see what happens (likewise you could try geoclue-manual since it seems like that shouldn't send any updates without user interaction)
[18:48] <trism> litropy: but I would try the ubuntu one first, since that seems to be the default in a precise install
[18:54] <litropy> trism, will do today and report back. Thanks for your help
[18:57] <RambJoe> does anyone here have an x-fi titanium hd?
[18:58] <litropy> trism, I went ahead and did it. I even left geoclue-yahoo in, and now everthing is golden.
[18:59] <BluesKaj> RambJoe,  why , what's the problem ?
[18:59] <litropy> trism, it seems when I upgraded to 12.04, geoclue-geoip wasn't tied into indicator-datetime as a dependency.
[19:00] <litropy> I've commented out your dbus mod for duture use. Thanks again for all your help.
[19:00] <litropy> future*
[19:02] <RambJoe> well i see ubuntu 12.04 now supports it
[19:02] <RambJoe> but i can't select "headphone" as the connector
[19:02] <RambJoe> so i cant actually get any sound out of it
[19:02] <BluesKaj> RambJoe, pulseaudio installed?
[19:03] <RambJoe> this is pretty much a stock install atm
[19:03] <RambJoe> pulseaudio is already the newest version.
[19:05] <RambJoe> so yeah its installed, should it be?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> have you setup alsamixer , RambJoe , all ctrls to 90% minimum, no M in any boxes
[19:05] <RambJoe> i'll do that now
[19:06] <BluesKaj> RambJoe,  some cards don't need pulseaudio, and can run everything with just alsa but i'm not familiar with yours so
[19:07] <RambJoe> one of the boxes has "MM"
[19:07] <BluesKaj> not sure if you need pulse or not
[19:07] <BluesKaj> MM  means it's muted , use the M key to unmute
[19:09] <RambJoe> still nothing D:
[19:09] <RambJoe> its weird though because in the sound settings where you select the connector
[19:10] <RambJoe> when ever i select Analogue Output / Headphones 1 or 2
[19:10] <RambJoe> when ever i like drag the volume bar or do anythig, it goes back to Analogue Output / Speaker
[19:12] <BluesKaj> RambJoe,  I have to go for a while , check this  http://www.piotrkrzyzek.com/solved-creative-x-fi-titanium-ctxfi-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[19:12] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:12] <RambJoe> ok, thanks for the help :)
[19:57] <Essobi> Anyone having a problem on the latest precise updates?  My ati video is acting really weird now..
[19:57] <Essobi> The desktop is unusuable unless I hookup a second screen...
[20:02] <Essobi> Lively crowd today.
[20:17] <c_smith> Hello, I'm wondering if there is a possibility that the fact that I get a Kernel Panic on startup when booting just the liveCD of Ubuntu 12.4 could be related to hardware, or if it's a bug, and if it's a bug where I would check on whether it was fixed.
[20:34] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  how old is the live-cd and is it from a daily build more than 2 weeks old ?
[20:38] <Essobi> Seriously?  No one having problems with Unity and ATI Radeon and the latest updates?
[20:38] <c_smith> it was about a week ago or more, yeah
[20:39] <c_smith> downloading a new ISO to test to see if this bug has been fixed.
[20:39] <c_smith> sorry for the late response,
[20:44] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  yeah I had that problem as well, that'e why I asked ...it was 2 weeks or so ago
[20:44] <c_smith> ok
[20:45] <c_smith> so I'll be testing in a few minutes, want me to let you know the results?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  sure :)
[20:52] <c_smith> k
[21:01] <Essobi> In the latest updates.... if I set gnome-terminal background to solid, it's still transparent.
[21:37] <c_smith> BluesKaj, I rebooted and tried to install, didn't get to the installer, threw me a Kernel Panic before it finished booting.
[21:39] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  odd, I did a clean install to / about 5days ago off a daily build live cd and the install went without a hitch ...ok guys we need some help here  , any ideas ?
[21:40] <c_smith> could it be something to do with my hardware?
[21:40] <c_smith> must be, as I have tested it in Virtualbox before.
[21:41] <c_smith> and it installs in Virtualbox.
[21:42] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  is this ubuntu or kubuntu or...?
[21:43] <c_smith> Ubuntu, not Kubuntu or Xubuntu or Lubuntu, just regular Ubuntu
[21:43] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:45] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  from here ?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:46] <c_smith> yup
[21:47] <BluesKaj> is the pc really new or over 5 yrs old ?
[21:50] <c_smith> let me check when it was made, it's a Compaq Presario CQ60-420US
[21:51] <c_smith> it's around 3 years old.
[21:51] <BluesKaj> hmm, should be fine
[21:52] <Essobi> Welp... Anyone running an ATI card + catalyst on the latest updates?
[21:52] <Essobi> Mine went to hell after the latest updates. :|
[21:53] <BluesKaj> I als have compaq presario with kubuntu 12.04 on , the only problem it has is it forgets to load the wirelss mouse driver every 2 boot ...dunno why , it's very strange
[21:53] <Essobi> O_o
[21:54] <BluesKaj> c_smith, btw it's 6 yrs old
[21:54] <c_smith> ah, k
[21:54] <c_smith> yours isn't a CQ60-420US, is it?
[21:55] <BluesKaj> strange that the kernal panic problem is still around tho
[21:55] <BluesKaj> c_smith, no it's SX1734
[21:56] <c_smith> ah, k
[21:56] <c_smith> it is.
[21:56] <c_smith> and it seems to be associated with certain hardware, as the Ubuntu Oregon team lead has been running 12.04 without a hitch,
[22:01] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  can you get to a tty , ctl+alt+f1 , login then update and upgrade?
[22:02] <c_smith> hmmmm, Bkerensa (the Ubuntu Oregon Team Lead) recommeneded something similar, just wish I had the IRC log for the command.
[22:03] <c_smith> he told me a set of commands to upgrade.
[22:04] <ts2> c_smith: it should be on http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[22:04] <c_smith> but the Ubuntu 12.04 upgrade won't work until I install Ubuntu 11.04 (trying a different distro for a review.
[22:04] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  , c_smith
[22:05] <c_smith> problem with using those IRC logs are that it was on the #ubuntu-us-or channel.
[22:05] <ts2> that should be logged there too
[22:06] <ts2> yeah -us-or is logged there
[22:06] <BluesKaj> c_smith,  run those commands after logging in to the TTY
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/01/19/%23ubuntu-us-or.html    that is logged too....
[22:07] <c_smith> it'll only work, like I said, once I install ubuntu, running OpenSUSE for a few to do a review.
[22:07] <c_smith> yeah, I found the log for that channel for 11/07/2011
[22:09] <c_smith> meh, I'm asking Bkerensa what the command was for getting the proper repos hoping he is awake.
[22:32] <c_smith> going to install Ubuntu 11.10 and upgrade right after installing (no updates) and see how that goes.
[22:51] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else bothered by the smaller buttons in the latest Ambiance/Radiance?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: can you post an image online for us to see
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> :), will help clear up the issue. Thanks
[22:53] <Daekdroom> ActionParsnip, I'm wondering whether it's intentional or not.
[22:53] <Daekdroom> I think it's better if I check changelogs first
[22:54] <Daekdroom> It seems that light-themes in precise is a single version ahead of oneiric's
[22:54] <Daekdroom>     - Updates for the spinbutton
[22:54] <Daekdroom> Could be that
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> Daekdroom: imageshack and suck can be used, or dropbox public folder
[23:07] <jtaylor> mh upgrade failure with bluez-alsa
[23:08] <jtaylor> you should probably avoid upgrading until its fixed
[23:09] <jtaylor> never mind apt-get install -f fixes it
[23:09] <jtaylor> just some ordering issue