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bkerensaheh01:11
cprofitthey all01:28
dholbachgood morning07:50
czajkowskialoha08:07
dholbachhey Gwaihir, hey czajkowski08:08
Gwaihirmorning dholbach08:10
bkerensaInternet is back :D08:27
Tm_Tbkerensa: it was gone at some point?08:37
bkerensafor me yes08:37
bkerensa:D08:37
Tm_Tah, right08:38
dpmhm, I'm having lots of internet connection issues, not sure it's my router or the wireless driver. But I'm back09:34
dpm(for a while, hopefully)09:34
dpmI'm trying to make it easier for translators to submit localized images in their language for ubuntu-docs. I thought I'd create a public U1 share for everyone to write to, but as I understand it, it's not possible unless you have the e-mails from the people you want to share with. dholbach (or anyone else) have you ever had to do such a thing or have you got any ideas? I.e. public write-for-everyone share where people can upload their files09:37
dholbachI don't know about U1, aquarius should know - not as easy, but bzr branch?09:38
dholbachspreadubuntu?09:38
dholbachor just ask them to publicise via U1 and put the links to a wiki page or IRC channel?09:39
czajkowskithe folks in #ubuntuone are so helpful09:39
dpmthanks. I'll think about it. I don't want to use bzr (they can already submit the files to the ubuntu-docs bzr branch), since not many translators know how to use it. I'll see what I can do with spreadubuntu09:42
dpmand I'd prefer a centralized place to have all files (I don't want to go chasing all the U1 links)09:43
dpmnow, thinking about it...09:44
dpma totally public share might not be the best idea if I'd want to avoid vandalizing...09:44
dpmso I think I'll set up the share and I'll ask translators who want to write to it and add them to the list of people to share with09:46
nigelbdpm: epiphany-browser! Its epiphany-browser :-)10:00
nigelb(I just fixed it, no worries :-) )10:00
dpmnigelb, thanks! ;)10:01
jokerdinodpm: so you got an idea for sharing the ubuntu-docs. i think i might have an idea. but not sure if it would actually work..10:38
jokerdinoThe first sentence was supposed to be a question. i forgot to add the question mark :/10:38
jokerdinoso, yeah, the idea is to setup a google docs collection and give access to people with link?10:39
dpmjokerdino, please go ahead, I do have an idea and I'm writing an e-mail to the docs team just now, but I'd be glad to hear a better one!10:39
dpmjokerdino, it's a good idea, but I'd like to have as much little work to do as possible, and if people would upload their images to a google doc or album or whatever... I don't know if there is an easy way to fetch them all at once10:40
jokerdinolet's say i have this folder on google docs (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6NtA-0GExbaMTk2ZjkwNDMtYjBiYy00ODI5LWI5MmEtYTE4MWEyZWU5ZDQ5) you can access and edit it if you have the link...10:40
jokerdinoyou can just download all the things inside the folder.10:40
jokerdinoat once.10:41
dpmjokerdino, how can I upload a file?10:41
dpmi.e. an image?10:42
dpmand then download all the images at once?10:42
jokerdinoyou can't add a file?10:43
jokerdinoi thought i just opened the access to everyone with the link.10:43
jokerdinotry now?10:44
jokerdinoclearly, i am not familiar with sharing folders. i will get back to you when i figure that part out ;?10:46
dpmit did the upload, but it doesn't appear10:46
dpmit doesn't seem to support uploading images not attached or converted to a doc10:47
dpmin any case, I prefer using Ubuntu resources, although thanks for the suggestion!10:47
jokerdinohmm ok. i wasn't just sure about it.10:47
dpmI think I'll use an Ubuntu one share, with folders for each language. Then translators only have to put their images to the right folder and once it's done I simply have to submit a merge proposal to ubuntu-docs10:48
dpmwithout having to manually fetch anything10:48
jokerdinohmm that sounds like a good idea.10:48
dpmthanks for your help anyway :-)10:48
jokerdinook i have to go AFK. talk to you later!10:54
dholbachdpm, weisst du, wann und wie oft das update-packaging-guide skript läuft? :)11:31
dpmdholbach, ich glaube, wenn nicht was schieff geht, jeden Tag um Mitternacht11:32
dholbachdpm, meinste, du könntest das mal manuell laufen lassen? ich würde gerne was testen?11:33
dpmdholbach, ja, klar. gibst du mir 5 Minuten?11:34
dholbachlogo11:34
dpmok :)11:36
dpmdholbach, ok, jetzt. Soll ich manuell updaten?11:42
dholbachdpm, ja, wenn du kannst, dann bitte :)11:44
dpmdholbach, argh -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/809552/11:49
dholbachdpm, kannst du in der crontab nach schauen, ob ein http_proxy gesetzt wird?11:49
dholbachwenn ja könntest du den beim aufruf vielleicht auch benutzen11:49
dpmkein proxy. Weisst du welche proxy ich benutzen soll?11:50
dholbachhm11:50
dholbachmaybe IS changed something about the firewalls, I don't know11:51
dpmthey did, the d.u.c server was put somewhere else to speed it up a bit11:58
dpmor they set up some cache or something, I don't know exactly, but the thing is that 2 weeks ago something changed11:58
dholbachaha12:00
dholbachdpm, good thing I asked the question today ;-)12:07
dpm:)12:07
dakergood morning12:48
mhall119morning12:58
dpmmorning daker, morning mhall11913:18
dholbachjames_w, (German link) pictures of crazy traditions in England - unfortunately the wheel of cheese is missing, but at least the burning kegs were captured: http://www.zeit.de/reisen/2012-01/fs-sara-hannant-2/14:46
james_wheh14:47
james_wI told you about the kegs?14:47
dholbachjames_w, yeah, I'm quite sure you did14:48
james_wheh, yeah, that's the one14:48
james_wweird as14:49
balloonswow..14:50
balloonsmost interesting that many of these are recent creations.. sometimes they are attempts to re-instate old traditions, but others are just starting new ones14:52
balloonswho needs an excuse to dress up right? :-)14:52
nigelbballoons: did you figure out the stuff you wre working on yesterday?14:52
dholbachhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper%27s_Hill_Cheese-Rolling_and_Wake was the other one I was talking about14:52
balloonsnigelb, yes thanks for your help14:52
balloonswe spammed the mozilla channel for awhile, and then found carljim14:52
balloonshe's pointed us in the proper direction14:53
nigelbI didn't do much. Just helping you find the right channel :)14:53
nigelbaha! good14:53
balloonslol.. that was more than half the battle14:53
nigelbhaha14:55
dholbachjames_w, http://www.cheese-rolling.co.uk/index1.htm - wow the pictures already tell you "if you want to break all your bones, this is the right place for you"14:55
dholbachnuts :)14:55
balloonsbut you get to keep the cheese!14:57
balloonsthat makes it worth it14:58
balloonsassuming you win of course..14:58
dholbach...and don't break all your bones - the guy "leading the field by a long way with a backward somersault" probably won't have been that lucky :)14:59
balloonsI'm sure the wet grass made everything easier for competitors15:00
* dholbach hugs james_w15:00
dholbachjames_w, thanks a lot!15:00
mhall119jcastro: http://91.189.93.114:8000/en-US/home15:31
nigelbmhall119: \o/15:45
marcoceppimhall119: did you get that one Mozilla support thing working?15:56
mhall119marcoceppi: I got it running, yeah15:56
marcoceppiNice!15:56
mhall119now I need to see how much work it will take to make it an Ubuntu support thing :)15:56
balloonsit's bacon!15:58
balloonssorry jono seeing your name immeadiately prompted the "beggin strips" dog commercials from the 90's15:59
jonohey balloons15:59
jonoballoons, bacon bacon BACON!15:59
balloonshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CErapf79rqM15:59
jonoI've got no thumbs!15:59
jonoI love that ad15:59
jonohows things?15:59
dholbachhey jono15:59
balloonstoo funny15:59
balloonsgoing good, yourself? made it back without too much trouble i hope16:00
dpmmorning jono16:00
jonohey dholbach, dpm16:00
jonoballoons, indeed, great to be home :-)16:01
jonodholbach, dpm ready for the ARB catch-up?16:01
dpmyep16:01
dholbachyep16:01
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jonodholbach, dpm hangout sent16:03
cjohnstonjono: could you please help out on bug #907565 bug #90767216:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 907565 in uds-project "sponsorship closing date needs to be specified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90756516:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 907672 in uds-project "Register page needs expenses date updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90767216:06
jonoballoons, mhall119 can we sync up this afternoon?16:21
jonoindividually, not together16:21
balloonssure16:21
jonoI am going to put a few calls in your calendars16:21
jonothanks balloons16:21
dpmballoons, be careful, don't let jono turn your calendar into a very colourful jigsaw puzzle - you've seen his!16:26
jonodpm, LOL16:27
balloonsthis is true! when did I give jono permission to schedule for me?16:27
balloons:-)16:27
jonoballoons, when you joined Canonical :-)16:27
cjohnstonwhen you accepted a pay check from him16:27
balloonsok jono -- but try and make sure it's colorful.. I don't want all green blocks now16:28
jonoballoons, LOL16:28
jonocjohnston, gonna get the sponsorship out this week16:28
mhall119jono: any time16:35
mhall119jono: can we move my call up an hour?16:36
* mhall119 lied about that "any time"16:36
jonomhall119, done16:36
mhall119thanks16:37
balloonsdpm, dholbach you guys ever here of Madredeus?16:37
mhall119jono: http://91.189.93.114:8000/en-US/home is canonistack16:37
mhall119is on16:37
dholbachballoons, no, I'm afraid not16:37
mhall119currently running through django's test server, I'm working on getting it setup on mod_wsgi16:37
dpmballoons, I have16:38
balloonsit's a Portuguese folk / fado group..16:38
balloonsvery good stuff16:38
dpmah, fado was the word!16:38
dpmI was trying to remember the type of music16:38
balloons:-) yes16:38
balloonsit's quite lovely to have the luxury of having music playing during the day -- sans the headphones16:39
balloonsat any rate.. yes, I enjoy it.. and that's alot coming from me, as I typically do not care for music where the voice is the primary instrument16:40
mhall119be back in a bit16:43
balloonsthis is sad.. I'm envious of jcastro now.. I need a third monitor :-(16:50
cjohnstonlol16:50
cprofittlol16:51
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nigelbballoons: But do you want enough work that you need 3 monitors?16:52
nigelbI'm sure one of jcastro's monitor just shows jono's schedule :P16:52
balloonsnigelb, +1.. that is too funny16:53
balloonsguess i'm up to 4 then16:53
nigelbhaha16:53
Pendulumballoons: you only think nigelb is joking...16:53
balloonsdoes that mean I'm a candidate for the unity multi-monitor setup testing?16:53
balloonsPendulum, ohh.. scary..16:54
jononigelb, lol16:54
jonodholbach, thanks for sending the ARB mail out16:54
dholbachde rien16:55
nigelb:)16:55
dholbachand dev news are out as well16:55
jonodholbach, I would like to get us in a place where everyone adds their feedback and then once a week someone does a review of the full queue to identify what apps we can get through in the next week16:55
jonodholbach, I know you took an action to get that meeting set up with the ARB16:56
jonomaybe we could get this set up on a Monda16:56
jonoMonday16:56
dholbachjono, yes, that'd be helpful16:56
jonodholbach, and now we have the metrics in place (ergo when the QA Pending bug is fixed), we should be able to track progress effectively16:57
jonodpm, mailing David Pitkin about the Ask Ubuntu lens now, will copy you in16:57
dpmthanks jono!17:00
nigelbNoooooo http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/20017:08
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dpmblimey17:19
czajkowskiaye that was on our lug list this morning17:26
mhall119yikes17:28
dholbachhave a great rest of your evening17:58
dholbachbig hugs17:58
mhall119dpm: ping18:02
dpmhi mhall11918:02
mhall119dpm: hey, we spoke earlier in the week about removing "Ubuntu One (Data)" from the developer portal's API page18:03
mhall119would you like me to go ahead and move that down to the Deprecated section?18:03
dpmmhall119, sure, feel free to go for it.18:05
dpmyou should be able to get to it with openid and the wp-admin page18:05
mhall119yup, already there18:06
dpmgreat :)18:06
mhall119done, thanks18:07
s-foxGoodbye.18:11
jonomhall119, will be a few mins and then will send a hangout18:31
jonomhall119, hangout sent18:35
mhall119jono: http://91.189.93.114:8000/en-US/home18:56
bkerensaGood Morning (Kinda) :)19:02
jonoballoons, little delayed, won't be long19:06
balloonsno worries..19:06
bkerensahi bodhi_zazen :)19:10
jonoballoons, invite sent19:15
balloonsey-ey cap't19:15
bodhi_zazen'lo bkerensa =)19:24
cprofitthey bkerensa bodhi_zazen19:25
bkerensahi cprofitt19:29
jonomhall119, I sent over the Sumo reqs20:55
jonoyou should have an email in your inbox regarding this20:56
mhall119yup, got it20:57
jonomhall119, thanks20:58
mhall119jono: mind if I share this with sumodevs to get their opinions?20:59
jonomhall119, sure20:59
mhall119cool, thanks21:00
jonopreferably not hyugely public21:00
jonofine to share on one on one emails21:00
mhall119ok21:00
jonobut on a mailing list21:00
jonoactually21:00
jonoactually, no keep it private, but one on one is fine21:00
jonothanks21:00
jonomhall119, I recommend you schedule a call with the product owner who we spoke to a while back21:01
mhall119sounds good21:01
pleia2popey: noticed the discussion in -irc, what's the official word on the ayatana name in general?21:37
pleia2(now that I just finished up printing 50 handouts for my talk listing the Ayatana wiki page under UI resources)21:37
popeywhoops21:37
popeywe can redirect that21:37
pleia2is it morphing into just being about unity?21:38
pleia2(I guess it already sort of was)21:38
* popey points pleia2 at jcastro and / or jono21:38
cjohnstonlol21:38
pleia2maybe I can find jcastro tonight (I suspect he's on or near an airplane right now?)21:39
popeyno idea21:39
popeydunno why he would be21:40
pleia2SCALE starts tomorrow, he's speaking and running a juju charm school21:40
popeyits his job to sit at home and be at my beck and call for various stupid questions21:40
pangolinhow much does that pay, cause I can do that?21:43
pleia2$221:44
pangolinper silly question?21:44
pangolinI will be rivh!21:44
pleia2per YEAR21:44
pangolinrich!21:44
pleia2hehe21:45
pangolinno silly comeback :(21:45
* pangolin hugs pleia2 21:45
* pleia2 hugs21:45
mhall119pleia2: actually I'm the one to talk to now, not jorge21:47
pleia2this is what I get for listening to popey! troublemaker21:47
mhall119I'll be talking to the DX team about what will become of the ayatana name, but for now they want the channel forwarded to #ubuntu-unity21:47
pleia2alright21:47
pleia2the rationale is what we discussed at UDS, it's not very within the Ubuntu community both in the form of discoverability and general naming conventions?21:48
mhall119pleia2: that's what I've been told21:49
pleia2ok, good, thanks :)21:49
popeytime for home made fudge!21:58
jonopopey, woo!21:59
jonopleia2, we are moving to #ubuntu-unity22:00
jonoalthough #ayatana is still open and the topic points people to the new channel22:00
jonoand btw folks, jcastro is no longer the go-to guy for Unity...you can now chat to mhall11922:00
* mhall119 runs22:01
mhall119one item off tomorrow's todo list22:05
balloonsyea mhall119!22:09
balloonsso tell me when will unity be able to make me sandwiches?22:09
mhall119balloons: even if we added that, people would still complain that it doesn't let them customize the sandwich enough22:12
balloonsmhall119, I fell off my chair22:12
mhall119:)22:12
mhall119jono: http://mhall119.com/2012/01/lets-chat-about-unity/22:21
jonomhall119, perfect!22:22
jonoI will tweet it22:22
mhall119two items off my list!22:22
jono:-)22:23
popeyhaha, i think you killed mhall119's host22:28
popeyjonodotted22:28
balloonslol.. I'm going to hit it now also22:31
mhall119popey: it's my cheap t1.micro instance22:32
balloons<3 my instance22:32
mhall119_I just need to do something with apache22:36
balloonswhat do you have running on it mhall119?22:36
mhall119_every time I put up a new post, search bots hit it enough that amazon starts limiting my cpu time22:36
balloonsit should serve things up fine22:37
mhall119_it's a t1.micro instance22:37
mhall119_it's fine 99% of the time22:37
mhall119_but if you carry even a moderate load for any more than a few seconds, Amazon restricts how much CPU time you get22:37
balloonsyes.. burst mode was always enough for me22:38
mhall119_it also runs my irssi session22:38
balloonsbut I don't host anything on my instance now22:38
mhall119_and a handful of other websites22:38
balloonslol handful22:38
balloonsmy is pure number crunching.. running my irc session and some "other" stuff22:39
mhall119_yours is a micro?22:39
mhall119_or a small22:39
cjohnstonmhall119_: identity crisis?22:39
mhall119_cjohnston: server crisis22:40
cjohnstonlol22:40
mhall119_it's like jono is popular or something22:40
mhall119_I need to try nginx22:42
cjohnstonI like nginx, but its a pita22:43
balloonssorry mhall119.. yes it's a micro22:49
balloonsmicro -> small is a big step22:49
balloonsmicro really is micro22:50
mhall119_yeah22:50
mhall119seems to have settled down now22:50
balloonslol22:50
balloonsi'm going to hit reload...22:50
mhall119>:(22:50
balloonscool22:52
bodhi_zazenmhall119: nginx is very fast and light weight and IMO does best with static content, if you need php better to stay with apache22:52
mhall119ah, I'm running wordpress, so yeah22:53
bodhi_zazenIt can be done with nginx, but, not really worth the hassle, imo22:53
mhall119i tuned-down apache, we'll see if that helps22:54
bodhi_zazenI looked at some wp optimizations a few years ago, can give you a link to some suggestions on my blog if you wish22:56
MrChrisDruifnginx is something web-related? Like lighttpd or something like that?22:58
* MrChrisDruif will go look himself ^_^22:58
bodhi_zazenyes MrChrisDruif22:58
bodhi_zazenMrChrisDruif: https://calomel.org/nginx.html22:59
bodhi_zazenalthough it is in the ubuntu repos so you do not need to compile it22:59
MrChrisDruifOw...it IS like lighttpd...23:00
MrChrisDruifI'll read up on it and how it compares both in performance and licenses to the rest23:00
bodhi_zazenIt is very fast and very lightweight, but it is also best for static content23:01
MrChrisDruifWhat is to be considered dynamic content?23:03
bodhi_zazenphp, scripts23:04
bodhi_zazenstatic content = flat html / images / js23:04
MrChrisDruifAl right23:06
balloonshappy trails and fair winds.. i bid thee good noc23:26
jonolaters balloons :-)23:35
MrChrisDruifBye balloons23:37
MrChrisDruifHow's it going jono ?23:37

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