[01:11] heh [01:28] hey all [07:50] good morning [08:07] aloha [08:08] hey Gwaihir, hey czajkowski [08:10] morning dholbach [08:27] Internet is back :D [08:37] bkerensa: it was gone at some point? [08:37] for me yes [08:37] :D [08:38] ah, right [09:34] hm, I'm having lots of internet connection issues, not sure it's my router or the wireless driver. But I'm back [09:34] (for a while, hopefully) [09:37] I'm trying to make it easier for translators to submit localized images in their language for ubuntu-docs. I thought I'd create a public U1 share for everyone to write to, but as I understand it, it's not possible unless you have the e-mails from the people you want to share with. dholbach (or anyone else) have you ever had to do such a thing or have you got any ideas? I.e. public write-for-everyone share where people can upload their files [09:38] I don't know about U1, aquarius should know - not as easy, but bzr branch? [09:38] spreadubuntu? [09:39] or just ask them to publicise via U1 and put the links to a wiki page or IRC channel? [09:39] the folks in #ubuntuone are so helpful [09:42] thanks. I'll think about it. I don't want to use bzr (they can already submit the files to the ubuntu-docs bzr branch), since not many translators know how to use it. I'll see what I can do with spreadubuntu [09:43] and I'd prefer a centralized place to have all files (I don't want to go chasing all the U1 links) [09:44] now, thinking about it... [09:44] a totally public share might not be the best idea if I'd want to avoid vandalizing... [09:46] so I think I'll set up the share and I'll ask translators who want to write to it and add them to the list of people to share with [10:00] dpm: epiphany-browser! Its epiphany-browser :-) [10:00] (I just fixed it, no worries :-) ) [10:01] nigelb, thanks! ;) [10:38] dpm: so you got an idea for sharing the ubuntu-docs. i think i might have an idea. but not sure if it would actually work.. [10:38] The first sentence was supposed to be a question. i forgot to add the question mark :/ [10:39] so, yeah, the idea is to setup a google docs collection and give access to people with link? [10:39] jokerdino, please go ahead, I do have an idea and I'm writing an e-mail to the docs team just now, but I'd be glad to hear a better one! [10:40] jokerdino, it's a good idea, but I'd like to have as much little work to do as possible, and if people would upload their images to a google doc or album or whatever... I don't know if there is an easy way to fetch them all at once [10:40] let's say i have this folder on google docs (https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6NtA-0GExbaMTk2ZjkwNDMtYjBiYy00ODI5LWI5MmEtYTE4MWEyZWU5ZDQ5) you can access and edit it if you have the link... [10:40] you can just download all the things inside the folder. [10:41] at once. [10:41] jokerdino, how can I upload a file? [10:42] i.e. an image? [10:42] and then download all the images at once? [10:43] you can't add a file? [10:43] i thought i just opened the access to everyone with the link. [10:44] try now? [10:46] clearly, i am not familiar with sharing folders. i will get back to you when i figure that part out ;? [10:46] it did the upload, but it doesn't appear [10:47] it doesn't seem to support uploading images not attached or converted to a doc [10:47] in any case, I prefer using Ubuntu resources, although thanks for the suggestion! [10:47] hmm ok. i wasn't just sure about it. [10:48] I think I'll use an Ubuntu one share, with folders for each language. Then translators only have to put their images to the right folder and once it's done I simply have to submit a merge proposal to ubuntu-docs [10:48] without having to manually fetch anything [10:48] hmm that sounds like a good idea. [10:48] thanks for your help anyway :-) [10:54] ok i have to go AFK. talk to you later! [11:31] dpm, weisst du, wann und wie oft das update-packaging-guide skript läuft? :) [11:32] dholbach, ich glaube, wenn nicht was schieff geht, jeden Tag um Mitternacht [11:33] dpm, meinste, du könntest das mal manuell laufen lassen? ich würde gerne was testen? [11:34] dholbach, ja, klar. gibst du mir 5 Minuten? [11:34] logo [11:36] ok :) [11:42] dholbach, ok, jetzt. Soll ich manuell updaten? [11:44] dpm, ja, wenn du kannst, dann bitte :) [11:49] dholbach, argh -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/809552/ [11:49] dpm, kannst du in der crontab nach schauen, ob ein http_proxy gesetzt wird? [11:49] wenn ja könntest du den beim aufruf vielleicht auch benutzen [11:50] kein proxy. Weisst du welche proxy ich benutzen soll? [11:50] hm [11:51] maybe IS changed something about the firewalls, I don't know [11:58] they did, the d.u.c server was put somewhere else to speed it up a bit [11:58] or they set up some cache or something, I don't know exactly, but the thing is that 2 weeks ago something changed [12:00] aha [12:07] dpm, good thing I asked the question today ;-) [12:07] :) [12:48] good morning [12:58] morning [13:18] morning daker, morning mhall119 [14:46] james_w, (German link) pictures of crazy traditions in England - unfortunately the wheel of cheese is missing, but at least the burning kegs were captured: http://www.zeit.de/reisen/2012-01/fs-sara-hannant-2/ [14:47] heh [14:47] I told you about the kegs? [14:48] james_w, yeah, I'm quite sure you did [14:48] heh, yeah, that's the one [14:49] weird as [14:50] wow.. [14:52] most interesting that many of these are recent creations.. sometimes they are attempts to re-instate old traditions, but others are just starting new ones [14:52] who needs an excuse to dress up right? :-) [14:52] balloons: did you figure out the stuff you wre working on yesterday? [14:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper%27s_Hill_Cheese-Rolling_and_Wake was the other one I was talking about [14:52] nigelb, yes thanks for your help [14:52] we spammed the mozilla channel for awhile, and then found carljim [14:53] he's pointed us in the proper direction [14:53] I didn't do much. Just helping you find the right channel :) [14:53] aha! good [14:53] lol.. that was more than half the battle [14:55] haha [14:55] james_w, http://www.cheese-rolling.co.uk/index1.htm - wow the pictures already tell you "if you want to break all your bones, this is the right place for you" [14:55] nuts :) [14:57] but you get to keep the cheese! [14:58] that makes it worth it [14:58] assuming you win of course.. [14:59] ...and don't break all your bones - the guy "leading the field by a long way with a backward somersault" probably won't have been that lucky :) [15:00] I'm sure the wet grass made everything easier for competitors [15:00] * dholbach hugs james_w [15:00] james_w, thanks a lot! [15:31] jcastro: http://91.189.93.114:8000/en-US/home [15:45] mhall119: \o/ [15:56] mhall119: did you get that one Mozilla support thing working? [15:56] marcoceppi: I got it running, yeah [15:56] Nice! [15:56] now I need to see how much work it will take to make it an Ubuntu support thing :) [15:58] it's bacon! [15:59] sorry jono seeing your name immeadiately prompted the "beggin strips" dog commercials from the 90's [15:59] hey balloons [15:59] balloons, bacon bacon BACON! [15:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CErapf79rqM [15:59] I've got no thumbs! [15:59] I love that ad [15:59] hows things? [15:59] hey jono [15:59] too funny [16:00] going good, yourself? made it back without too much trouble i hope [16:00] morning jono [16:00] hey dholbach, dpm [16:01] balloons, indeed, great to be home :-) [16:01] dholbach, dpm ready for the ARB catch-up? [16:01] yep [16:01] yep === JanC_ is now known as JanC [16:03] dholbach, dpm hangout sent [16:06] jono: could you please help out on bug #907565 bug #907672 [16:06] Launchpad bug 907565 in uds-project "sponsorship closing date needs to be specified" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907565 [16:06] Launchpad bug 907672 in uds-project "Register page needs expenses date updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907672 [16:21] balloons, mhall119 can we sync up this afternoon? [16:21] individually, not together [16:21] sure [16:21] I am going to put a few calls in your calendars [16:21] thanks balloons [16:26] balloons, be careful, don't let jono turn your calendar into a very colourful jigsaw puzzle - you've seen his! [16:27] dpm, LOL [16:27] this is true! when did I give jono permission to schedule for me? [16:27] :-) [16:27] balloons, when you joined Canonical :-) [16:27] when you accepted a pay check from him [16:28] ok jono -- but try and make sure it's colorful.. I don't want all green blocks now [16:28] balloons, LOL [16:28] cjohnston, gonna get the sponsorship out this week [16:35] jono: any time [16:36] jono: can we move my call up an hour? [16:36] * mhall119 lied about that "any time" [16:36] mhall119, done [16:37] thanks [16:37] dpm, dholbach you guys ever here of Madredeus? [16:37] jono: http://91.189.93.114:8000/en-US/home is canonistack [16:37] is on [16:37] balloons, no, I'm afraid not [16:37] currently running through django's test server, I'm working on getting it setup on mod_wsgi [16:38] balloons, I have [16:38] it's a Portuguese folk / fado group.. [16:38] very good stuff [16:38] ah, fado was the word! [16:38] I was trying to remember the type of music [16:38] :-) yes [16:39] it's quite lovely to have the luxury of having music playing during the day -- sans the headphones [16:40] at any rate.. yes, I enjoy it.. and that's alot coming from me, as I typically do not care for music where the voice is the primary instrument [16:43] be back in a bit [16:50] this is sad.. I'm envious of jcastro now.. I need a third monitor :-( [16:50] lol [16:51] lol === scott-work is now known as scott-work-afk [16:52] balloons: But do you want enough work that you need 3 monitors? [16:52] I'm sure one of jcastro's monitor just shows jono's schedule :P [16:53] nigelb, +1.. that is too funny [16:53] guess i'm up to 4 then [16:53] haha [16:53] balloons: you only think nigelb is joking... [16:53] does that mean I'm a candidate for the unity multi-monitor setup testing? [16:54] Pendulum, ohh.. scary.. [16:54] nigelb, lol [16:54] dholbach, thanks for sending the ARB mail out [16:55] de rien [16:55] :) [16:55] and dev news are out as well [16:55] dholbach, I would like to get us in a place where everyone adds their feedback and then once a week someone does a review of the full queue to identify what apps we can get through in the next week [16:56] dholbach, I know you took an action to get that meeting set up with the ARB [16:56] maybe we could get this set up on a Monda [16:56] Monday [16:56] jono, yes, that'd be helpful [16:57] dholbach, and now we have the metrics in place (ergo when the QA Pending bug is fixed), we should be able to track progress effectively [16:57] dpm, mailing David Pitkin about the Ask Ubuntu lens now, will copy you in [17:00] thanks jono! [17:08] Noooooo http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/200 === scott-work-afk is now known as scott-work [17:19] blimey [17:26] aye that was on our lug list this morning [17:28] yikes [17:58] have a great rest of your evening [17:58] big hugs [18:02] dpm: ping [18:02] hi mhall119 [18:03] dpm: hey, we spoke earlier in the week about removing "Ubuntu One (Data)" from the developer portal's API page [18:03] would you like me to go ahead and move that down to the Deprecated section? [18:05] mhall119, sure, feel free to go for it. [18:05] you should be able to get to it with openid and the wp-admin page [18:06] yup, already there [18:06] great :) [18:07] done, thanks [18:11] Goodbye. [18:31] mhall119, will be a few mins and then will send a hangout [18:35] mhall119, hangout sent [18:56] jono: http://91.189.93.114:8000/en-US/home [19:02] Good Morning (Kinda) :) [19:06] balloons, little delayed, won't be long [19:06] no worries.. [19:10] hi bodhi_zazen :) [19:15] balloons, invite sent [19:15] ey-ey cap't [19:24] 'lo bkerensa =) [19:25] hey bkerensa bodhi_zazen [19:29] hi cprofitt [20:55] mhall119, I sent over the Sumo reqs [20:56] you should have an email in your inbox regarding this [20:57] yup, got it [20:58] mhall119, thanks [20:59] jono: mind if I share this with sumodevs to get their opinions? [20:59] mhall119, sure [21:00] cool, thanks [21:00] preferably not hyugely public [21:00] fine to share on one on one emails [21:00] ok [21:00] but on a mailing list [21:00] actually [21:00] actually, no keep it private, but one on one is fine [21:00] thanks [21:01] mhall119, I recommend you schedule a call with the product owner who we spoke to a while back [21:01] sounds good [21:37] popey: noticed the discussion in -irc, what's the official word on the ayatana name in general? [21:37] (now that I just finished up printing 50 handouts for my talk listing the Ayatana wiki page under UI resources) [21:37] whoops [21:37] we can redirect that [21:38] is it morphing into just being about unity? [21:38] (I guess it already sort of was) [21:38] * popey points pleia2 at jcastro and / or jono [21:38] lol [21:39] maybe I can find jcastro tonight (I suspect he's on or near an airplane right now?) [21:39] no idea [21:40] dunno why he would be [21:40] SCALE starts tomorrow, he's speaking and running a juju charm school [21:40] its his job to sit at home and be at my beck and call for various stupid questions [21:43] how much does that pay, cause I can do that? [21:44] $2 [21:44] per silly question? [21:44] I will be rivh! [21:44] per YEAR [21:44] rich! [21:45] hehe [21:45] no silly comeback :( [21:45] * pangolin hugs pleia2 [21:45] * pleia2 hugs [21:47] pleia2: actually I'm the one to talk to now, not jorge [21:47] this is what I get for listening to popey! troublemaker [21:47] I'll be talking to the DX team about what will become of the ayatana name, but for now they want the channel forwarded to #ubuntu-unity [21:47] alright [21:48] the rationale is what we discussed at UDS, it's not very within the Ubuntu community both in the form of discoverability and general naming conventions? [21:49] pleia2: that's what I've been told [21:49] ok, good, thanks :) [21:58] time for home made fudge! [21:59] popey, woo! [22:00] pleia2, we are moving to #ubuntu-unity [22:00] although #ayatana is still open and the topic points people to the new channel [22:00] and btw folks, jcastro is no longer the go-to guy for Unity...you can now chat to mhall119 [22:01] * mhall119 runs [22:05] one item off tomorrow's todo list [22:09] yea mhall119! [22:09] so tell me when will unity be able to make me sandwiches? [22:12] balloons: even if we added that, people would still complain that it doesn't let them customize the sandwich enough [22:12] mhall119, I fell off my chair [22:12] :) [22:21] jono: http://mhall119.com/2012/01/lets-chat-about-unity/ [22:22] mhall119, perfect! [22:22] I will tweet it [22:22] two items off my list! [22:23] :-) [22:28] haha, i think you killed mhall119's host [22:28] jonodotted [22:31] lol.. I'm going to hit it now also [22:32] popey: it's my cheap t1.micro instance [22:32] <3 my instance [22:36] I just need to do something with apache [22:36] what do you have running on it mhall119? [22:36] every time I put up a new post, search bots hit it enough that amazon starts limiting my cpu time [22:37] it should serve things up fine [22:37] it's a t1.micro instance [22:37] it's fine 99% of the time [22:37] but if you carry even a moderate load for any more than a few seconds, Amazon restricts how much CPU time you get [22:38] yes.. burst mode was always enough for me [22:38] it also runs my irssi session [22:38] but I don't host anything on my instance now [22:38] and a handful of other websites [22:38] lol handful [22:39] my is pure number crunching.. running my irc session and some "other" stuff [22:39] yours is a micro? [22:39] or a small [22:39] mhall119_: identity crisis? [22:40] cjohnston: server crisis [22:40] lol [22:40] it's like jono is popular or something [22:42] I need to try nginx [22:43] I like nginx, but its a pita [22:49] sorry mhall119.. yes it's a micro [22:49] micro -> small is a big step [22:50] micro really is micro [22:50] yeah [22:50] seems to have settled down now [22:50] lol [22:50] i'm going to hit reload... [22:50] >:( [22:52] cool [22:52] mhall119: nginx is very fast and light weight and IMO does best with static content, if you need php better to stay with apache [22:53] ah, I'm running wordpress, so yeah [22:53] It can be done with nginx, but, not really worth the hassle, imo [22:54] i tuned-down apache, we'll see if that helps [22:56] I looked at some wp optimizations a few years ago, can give you a link to some suggestions on my blog if you wish [22:58] nginx is something web-related? Like lighttpd or something like that? [22:58] * MrChrisDruif will go look himself ^_^ [22:58] yes MrChrisDruif [22:59] MrChrisDruif: https://calomel.org/nginx.html [22:59] although it is in the ubuntu repos so you do not need to compile it [23:00] Ow...it IS like lighttpd... [23:00] I'll read up on it and how it compares both in performance and licenses to the rest [23:01] It is very fast and very lightweight, but it is also best for static content [23:03] What is to be considered dynamic content? [23:04] php, scripts [23:04] static content = flat html / images / js [23:06] Al right [23:26] happy trails and fair winds.. i bid thee good noc [23:35] laters balloons :-) [23:37] Bye balloons [23:37] How's it going jono ?