[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[12:54]  * Tm_T huggles sladen
[12:54] <sladen> yo Tm_T
[12:54] <Myrtti> hiya sladen
[12:55]  * theadmin is here lol
[12:55] <Tm_T> theadmin: goodie, as here you can idle more freely
[12:56] <theadmin> Tm_T: Oh, it's forbidden to idle in the -ops channel?
[12:56] <Tm_T> theadmin: hint, read the topic (;
[12:56] <theadmin> Already /part'ed it so :D
[12:56] <Tm_T> oh, in short, yes no idling there
[12:57] <Myrtti> unless with a permission :-P
[12:57]  * Myrtti had idled for years
[12:57] <theadmin> Tm_T: What's that siltala.net website anyway?
[12:57] <Tm_T> I never idle
[12:57] <theadmin> Doesn't look official
[12:57] <Myrtti> topyli's blog
[12:57]  * theadmin doesn't idle either, unless she's suddenly busy or interested with something
[12:58] <theadmin> Or when I'm just of no help :D
[12:58] <Tm_T> indeed, I never idle, sometimes I just (in)observe silently
[13:00] <theadmin> Mailing lists huh... That's kind of new for me (/me prefers RSS over that stuff), but I guess is fine
[13:07] <theadmin> Well here I go *clicks "join"
[13:07] <theadmin> *
[13:08] <theadmin> Now who is supposed to aprove those requests?
[13:09] <Myrtti> the IRC council does when there's need for new ops
[13:09] <Myrtti> after a call for comments
[13:09] <theadmin> Ah, I see, so that's gonna take a while.
[13:10] <Myrtti> well that's usually how it goes
[13:10] <theadmin> That makes sense. Is fine with me
[13:11] <theadmin> (never been an op of a channel before, except when I accidentally joined channels that don't exist)
[13:12] <k1l_> you accidently op? :)
[13:12] <Myrtti> is it bad?
[13:12] <Myrtti> the whole op?
[13:12] <theadmin> lols
[13:16]  * theadmin imangines bringing peace into the channel and killing trolls off <3
[13:55]  * popey pokes sladen with Millbank Tower
[14:01] <christel> that's rather a lot of poking for only one small paul
[14:15] <sladen> popey: awch
[14:15]  * Fuchs pokes christel with a toblerone stick
[14:16] <Myrtti> apt weapon
[14:35] <Tm_T> sudo apt-weapon poke toblerone
[14:35] <Tm_T> I need fooood
[19:57] <mhall119> is this the place to ask for a channel redirect?
[19:59] <Myrtti> possibly
[20:00] <mhall119> I'm going to need to get #ayatana redirecting to #ubuntu-unity as soon as I get the official okay
[20:00] <AlanBell> \o/
[20:02] <jussi> hrm... strange.... why ?
[20:02] <Myrtti> can we even do that?
[20:02] <Myrtti> the access list has canonical cloak on it
[20:02] <jussi> aiui, ayatana is an upstream, right?
[20:02] <mhall119> jussi: because people don't know what ayatana is
[20:03]  * jussi would honestly suggest #ubuntu-unity -> #ayatana tbh
[20:03] <jussi> but that just me
[20:03] <mhall119> well the decision was made to go #ayatana -> #ubuntu-unity, I've just been tasked with making it happen
[20:04] <AlanBell> when?
[20:05] <jussi> ahh yay, its  joeys channel. no problems getting it done then
[20:05] <mhall119> when was the decision made, or when shoudl the redirect be implemented?
[20:05] <jussi> mhall119: go create #ubuntu-unity, using the creating channels wiki page (Ill link in a sec). then anoy joey to redirect it
[20:05] <mhall119> jussi: #ubuntu-unity already exists
[20:06] <jussi> ok
[20:06] <jussi> so
[20:06] <mhall119> ok, I can annoy joey, no problem there
[20:06] <mhall119> what will happen to the people in #ayatana when the redirect is put in place?
[20:06] <jussi> grab popey, have him add joey to the access list
[20:06] <jussi> mhall119: nothing untill you boot them all, then theyll try rejoin and be redirected
[20:06] <mhall119> popey: ^^ consider yoursself grabbed (in a professional manner)
[20:07] <mhall119> jussi: ok
[20:07] <jussi> mhall119:  see /msg chanserv help clear
[20:07] <mhall119> jussi: cool, thanks
[20:08] <jussi> yw
[20:08] <jussi> just ask here if youve more stuff you need to do
[20:08] <mhall119> will do
[20:11] <mhall119> jussi: would it work to have popey added to the access list for #ayatana, rather than having joey added to #ubuntu-unity?
[20:12] <jussi> mhall119: if you add him with enough permissions
[20:12] <jussi> !modes
[20:12] <jussi> that page is helpful
[20:13] <mhall119> ok
[20:53]  * popey considers himself grabbed
[21:31] <popey> jussi: lies
[21:34] <popey> mhall119 / jussi, i have set joey to +voAti on #ubuntu-unity, is that sufficient?
[21:36] <ts2> +votiA is a pretty standard set of flags for operators
[21:36] <ubot4`> In #ubuntu-irc, ts2 said: +votiA is a pretty standard set of flags for operators
[21:36] <ts2> hush up ubot4`
[21:36] <benonsoftware> Why/How did that happen?
[21:36] <Pici> that bot's trigger key is +
[21:36] <k1l> the bot was triggered
[21:37] <benonsoftware> :P
[21:37]  * Fuchs adds + to the list of possible stupid trigger characters
[21:38] <popey> +1
[21:38] <ubot4`> Factoid '1' not found
[21:38] <popey> stupid bot
[21:38] <benonsoftware> +-1
[21:38] <popey> thats going to get annoying pretty quickly
[21:39] <ts2> there's only a limited set of usable but not-that-common characters that you'd want a bot to use, unfortunately we have 4 in here that all need to be different
[21:40] <benonsoftware> Maybe use @, #, % and ~
[21:41] <ts2> ah, but you're missing the uber-confusing part
[21:41] <ts2> each bot needs 2
[21:41] <ts2> one for commands, one for factoids
[21:41] <benonsoftware> *, ^, |, \
[21:41] <benonsoftware> :P
[21:42] <Unit193> And some don{t have defaultignore
[21:42] <ts2> benonsoftware: remember, not too common either @, ^, and * are sometimes used at the start of lines
[21:42] <benonsoftware> ah
[21:47] <JoseeAntonioR> hey! I need to talk with someone via PM
[21:48] <AlanBell> whats up JoseeAntonioR?
[21:53] <joey> popey: here
[21:54] <mhall119> thanks joey, pleia2 and popey
[21:54] <joey> popey: if for some reason you want my help with that channel in the future, you'll have to op me
[21:54] <joey> popey: or make me a jr founder
[21:54] <joey> popey: traditionally I do not work on ubuntu channels
[21:54] <joey> popey: only Canonical and Linaro (I'm the group contact for both)
[21:55] <joey> popey:  #ubuntu-* is the irc council / irc ops area :-)
[21:55] <joey> don't want to step on anyone's toes
[21:55] <mhall119> joey: can you give popey access to #ayatana so he can complete the redirct and kick everyone out after some time?
[21:56] <joey> yeah sure yabetcha
[21:57]  * popey hugs joey 
[22:00] <mhall119> pleia2: can I get super op powers in #ubuntu-unity please?
[22:00] <popey> you have it
[22:02] <mhall119> thanks
[22:02] <mhall119> I didn't a minute ago
[22:02] <joey> anything else popey I can help with?
[22:02] <popey> just carry on being awesome ☺
[22:02] <joey> I don't think you need me on those chans any more do you?
[22:02] <popey> dont think so
[22:03] <mhall119> thanks joey
[22:03] <AlanBell> popey: want to add UbuntuIrcCouncil to it as well so we can help out if required
[22:03] <popey> will do
[22:03] <popey> whats the full mask?
[22:04] <AlanBell> just the account
[22:04] <LjL> popey: just the account UbuntuIrcCouncil
[22:04] <popey> ah ok
[22:05] <AlanBell> we have to log out and log in to nickserv with that account if we need to do something with it
[22:05] <popey> coolio
[22:05] <balloons> hello.. I was hoping someone might be able to help me create a re-direct channel?
[22:05] <AlanBell> great, thanks
[22:05] <popey> done and also done for -tv -tablet and -phone
[22:05] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/MovingChannels
[22:05] <AlanBell> hi balloons, from where to where
[22:05] <k1l> balloons: which channel?
[22:05] <pleia2> ^^ very helpful
[22:06] <pleia2> (includes stuff like adding UbuntuIRCCouncil to the access list)
[22:06] <balloons> hey :-) for the life of me I can't remember how to ask chanserv anything, including who's founder
[22:06] <balloons> from #ubuntu-qa to #ubuntu-testing
[22:06] <balloons> we consolidated the channels but I don't believe a redirect was put into place
[22:07] <pangolin> /msg chanserv access #channel list
[22:07] <AlanBell> balloons: /msg chanserve access #ubuntu-qa list
[22:07] <balloons> good irccouncil owns it
[22:07] <AlanBell> ok, I should be able to sort this one :)
[22:09] <balloons> thanks AlanBell
[22:13] <AlanBell> all done
[22:14] <balloons> looks good.. thank you much
[22:15] <balloons> +1 irc team
[22:15] <ubot4`> Factoid '1 irc team' not found
[22:15] <benonsoftware> +ubot4` Be quiet
[22:15] <ubot4`> Factoid 'ubot4` Be quiet' not found
[22:31] <balloons> ohh noes, the bots involved now.. time to run
[22:31] <benonsoftware> :P