| neodragon | Hello, I am getting ready to install Ubuntu Studio and I just had one question, the website does not specify if it comes with Jack installed by defualt, I was hoping you would know? | 22:50 |
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| holstein | neodragon: hey | 22:53 |
| holstein | stuzz is a good friend and said you were coming | 22:54 |
| neodragon | hey holstein, yes I am here | 22:54 |
| holstein | JACK is included, as well as all kind of other stuff that you may or may not wany | 22:54 |
| holstein | i like to run live CD's and test hardware | 22:54 |
| holstein | AVLinux is a live audio distro that i suggest | 22:55 |
| holstein | if AV works well live, then ubuntustudio will likely be the same | 22:55 |
| neodragon | I would like to set it up with out pulseaudio if possible, but I know ubuntu usually includes it | 22:55 |
| holstein | neodragon: when you start JACK, pulse suspends | 22:55 |
| neodragon | OH | 22:55 |
| holstein | unless you have a need to avoid it, i say, dont bother | 22:55 |
| neodragon | OK then that answers my question | 22:56 |
| holstein | i can make agruments both against and in favour of pulse | 22:56 |
| holstein | you can get by both ways, and suggest you just pick a way and go for it | 22:56 |
| holstein | some folks say pulse sucks... i say, computers suck and you can learn to use them with or without pulse | 22:56 |
| neodragon | I don't hate pulse, I use it on my Gentoo box and it works flawlessly I am just trying to avoid any hassles | 22:56 |
| holstein | neodragon: you wont have any hassles either way, til you want to route pulse through JACK | 22:57 |
| neodragon | nope I won't need that, I don't think | 22:58 |
| holstein | i dont | 22:58 |
| holstein | we use it to podcast sometimes | 22:58 |
| holstein | but, i dont need flash int he web browser while using JACK | 22:58 |
| holstein | but i have a seperate produciton machine | 22:58 |
| neodragon | thats what I am doing I have my main box, but I am setting up a seperate PC for recording/editing | 22:59 |
| holstein | good for you.. thats a great way to do it | 23:00 |
| neodragon | for crying out load I have 7 to choose from, I would have 9, but two of my Pentium 3s just crashed and burned on me | 23:00 |
| holstein | i wouldnt expect stellar performance on a p3 | 23:01 |
| holstein | you might want to go for the old version of dynebolic which runs live | 23:01 |
| neodragon | in any case the box I am using is an AMD64 dualcore 2.8 GHz with 2 GB RAM | 23:01 |
| holstein | neodragon: that'll do it | 23:01 |
| neodragon | it has built in Nvidia HD audio, but I have a Soundblaster Audigy add-on card I can use if that does not work well | 23:03 |
| neodragon | I find that Soundblaster cards produce very high quality sound both for recoding and playback and they are fully supported under linux so good all the way around | 23:05 |
| holstein | sure, but its still awful for production | 23:06 |
| holstein | not bad to 'get your feet wet' with what you got though | 23:06 |
| neodragon | so than what do you suggest | 23:07 |
| holstein | i like to suggest to folks who are interested in audio to take a tour of a studio | 23:07 |
| holstein | they'll let you go through, and you can see what they have, and how its set up | 23:07 |
| holstein | even something cheap like http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx | 23:07 |
| holstein | that paired with a preamp or mixer | 23:08 |
| acerimmer | holstein: repeat? just arrived in thread... | 23:09 |
| holstein | anyways.. you can look and see that *no* studios use soundblaster | 23:09 |
| holstein | not that they would use beringer either, but they would be using an interface capable of speaking to a preamp | 23:09 |
| holstein | balanced is a good sign too | 23:09 |
| holstein | if you have the money for gear that either alreayd includes some decent preamp | 23:09 |
| holstein | or has balanced connectors | 23:09 |
| holstein | im not saying you cant do decent audio with unbalanced... im just saying, *all* pro audio comes with balanced connectors | 23:10 |
| neodragon | well I might have to make due with what I have for now. I don't have that kind of money | 23:10 |
| holstein | sure | 23:10 |
| holstein | just keep in mind, that sound card is probable 80 bucks US | 23:11 |
| acerimmer | neodragon: sorry to ask, but repeat query plz. I might be able to advise... | 23:11 |
| holstein | thats about an hour in a really nice studio | 23:11 |
| neodragon | I want to record a few episodes for HPR | 23:11 |
| holstein | neodragon: sure.. get started with what you got | 23:11 |
| holstein | thats a great way to determine what you need too | 23:11 |
| holstein | how many inputs you need | 23:11 |
| holstein | do you need MIDI support? | 23:11 |
| holstein | what kind of mic pres do you prefer | 23:12 |
| holstein | etc... | 23:12 |
| holstein | acerimmer: whats up? | 23:12 |
| holstein | i was just suggesting that when folks start thikning about buying gear for their studio.. try and tour a local studio and see what they have | 23:12 |
| neodragon | acerimmer: I am just looking for advice on setting up my first audio production PC | 23:12 |
| holstein | try and emulate the pros | 23:12 |
| holstein | the pros dont use USB | 23:12 |
| holstein | they dont use soundblaster | 23:13 |
| holstein | not to say you cant so well with these tools | 23:13 |
| holstein | and you can totally learn on them and get started | 23:13 |
| acerimmer | neodragon: i've got a dell 1545. decided to podcast and wanted halfway decent sound. software: audacity. hardware: presonus 2x2 interface kit (presonus 1 box). comes with mic/headphones/interface & works with buntu. | 23:14 |
| arges | holstein, which interfaces do you use? some USB interfaces ain't that bad | 23:14 |
| neodragon | the local pawn shop always has audio equipment like mixing boards, preamps, etc. I might be able to score those things real cheap | 23:15 |
| acerimmer | neodragon: fyi: here's what came out of that...http://kokujinchronicles.podomatic.com/entry/2011-06-04T19_05_21-07_00 | 23:15 |
| acerimmer | neodragon: also see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDL6fMQXIoE&feature=plcp&context=C3ac0575UDOEgsToPDskLx-nLCfy_kLO7pGDvj6ZS6 | 23:16 |
| holstein | sure | 23:16 |
| holstein | arges: and thats my point | 23:16 |
| holstein | but, *no* pro studio uses usb | 23:16 |
| holstein | i use a presonus firepod | 23:17 |
| arges | not until they come out with usb-3.0 devices : ) | 23:17 |
| holstein | thats actuall not that pricey these days | 23:17 |
| holstein | gotta run.. | 23:17 |
| arges | later | 23:17 |
| neodragon | thanks holstein | 23:17 |
| neodragon | and acerimmer | 23:17 |
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