[22:50] Hello, I am getting ready to install Ubuntu Studio and I just had one question, the website does not specify if it comes with Jack installed by defualt, I was hoping you would know? [22:53] neodragon: hey [22:54] stuzz is a good friend and said you were coming [22:54] hey holstein, yes I am here [22:54] JACK is included, as well as all kind of other stuff that you may or may not wany [22:54] i like to run live CD's and test hardware [22:55] AVLinux is a live audio distro that i suggest [22:55] if AV works well live, then ubuntustudio will likely be the same [22:55] I would like to set it up with out pulseaudio if possible, but I know ubuntu usually includes it [22:55] neodragon: when you start JACK, pulse suspends [22:55] OH [22:55] unless you have a need to avoid it, i say, dont bother [22:56] OK then that answers my question [22:56] i can make agruments both against and in favour of pulse [22:56] you can get by both ways, and suggest you just pick a way and go for it [22:56] some folks say pulse sucks... i say, computers suck and you can learn to use them with or without pulse [22:56] I don't hate pulse, I use it on my Gentoo box and it works flawlessly I am just trying to avoid any hassles [22:57] neodragon: you wont have any hassles either way, til you want to route pulse through JACK [22:58] nope I won't need that, I don't think [22:58] i dont [22:58] we use it to podcast sometimes [22:58] but, i dont need flash int he web browser while using JACK [22:58] but i have a seperate produciton machine [22:59] thats what I am doing I have my main box, but I am setting up a seperate PC for recording/editing [23:00] good for you.. thats a great way to do it [23:00] for crying out load I have 7 to choose from, I would have 9, but two of my Pentium 3s just crashed and burned on me [23:01] i wouldnt expect stellar performance on a p3 [23:01] you might want to go for the old version of dynebolic which runs live [23:01] in any case the box I am using is an AMD64 dualcore 2.8 GHz with 2 GB RAM [23:01] neodragon: that'll do it [23:03] it has built in Nvidia HD audio, but I have a Soundblaster Audigy add-on card I can use if that does not work well [23:05] I find that Soundblaster cards produce very high quality sound both for recoding and playback and they are fully supported under linux so good all the way around [23:06] sure, but its still awful for production [23:06] not bad to 'get your feet wet' with what you got though [23:07] so than what do you suggest [23:07] i like to suggest to folks who are interested in audio to take a tour of a studio [23:07] they'll let you go through, and you can see what they have, and how its set up [23:07] even something cheap like http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx [23:08] that paired with a preamp or mixer [23:09] holstein: repeat? just arrived in thread... [23:09] anyways.. you can look and see that *no* studios use soundblaster [23:09] not that they would use beringer either, but they would be using an interface capable of speaking to a preamp [23:09] balanced is a good sign too [23:09] if you have the money for gear that either alreayd includes some decent preamp [23:09] or has balanced connectors [23:10] im not saying you cant do decent audio with unbalanced... im just saying, *all* pro audio comes with balanced connectors [23:10] well I might have to make due with what I have for now. I don't have that kind of money [23:10] sure [23:11] just keep in mind, that sound card is probable 80 bucks US [23:11] neodragon: sorry to ask, but repeat query plz. I might be able to advise... [23:11] thats about an hour in a really nice studio [23:11] I want to record a few episodes for HPR [23:11] neodragon: sure.. get started with what you got [23:11] thats a great way to determine what you need too [23:11] how many inputs you need [23:11] do you need MIDI support? [23:12] what kind of mic pres do you prefer [23:12] etc... [23:12] acerimmer: whats up? [23:12] i was just suggesting that when folks start thikning about buying gear for their studio.. try and tour a local studio and see what they have [23:12] acerimmer: I am just looking for advice on setting up my first audio production PC [23:12] try and emulate the pros [23:12] the pros dont use USB [23:13] they dont use soundblaster [23:13] not to say you cant so well with these tools [23:13] and you can totally learn on them and get started [23:14] neodragon: i've got a dell 1545. decided to podcast and wanted halfway decent sound. software: audacity. hardware: presonus 2x2 interface kit (presonus 1 box). comes with mic/headphones/interface & works with buntu. [23:14] holstein, which interfaces do you use? some USB interfaces ain't that bad [23:15] the local pawn shop always has audio equipment like mixing boards, preamps, etc. I might be able to score those things real cheap [23:15] neodragon: fyi: here's what came out of that...http://kokujinchronicles.podomatic.com/entry/2011-06-04T19_05_21-07_00 [23:16] neodragon: also see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDL6fMQXIoE&feature=plcp&context=C3ac0575UDOEgsToPDskLx-nLCfy_kLO7pGDvj6ZS6 [23:16] sure [23:16] arges: and thats my point [23:16] but, *no* pro studio uses usb [23:17] i use a presonus firepod [23:17] not until they come out with usb-3.0 devices : ) [23:17] thats actuall not that pricey these days [23:17] gotta run.. [23:17] later [23:17] thanks holstein [23:17] and acerimmer