| jwfoxjr | I'm not getting a pairing code. I can click the settings icon and select random code, when I enter it, it still doesn't pair | 00:05 |
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| jwfoxjr | holstein: I may have go back to vanilla ubuntu if I cant get this working. | 00:07 |
| holstein | jwfoxjr: it wont be a random code... it'll be the code for that device | 00:11 |
| holstein | maybe some package in main ubuntu is able to know based on the model # what the code is | 00:11 |
| jwfoxjr | Well, I'll have to play with it later. I think maybe I'll use tasksel to install Ubuntu Desktop, log into Unity, pair the bluetooth and then remove Ubuntu Desktop. | 00:13 |
| holstein | there should literally be a code in the documentaion for the device... thats the code *any* device will need to interface with it | 00:14 |
| jwfoxjr | This one seems to randomly generate. I know this because I have seen in the past that it's a different code under Windows. | 00:15 |
| holstein | this one? | 00:15 |
| holstein | feel free and link model numbers or documentation for whatever device you are trying to pair | 00:15 |
| holstein | if you are presented with a spot to enter a code, and that doesnt work, i think its safe to assume the code is incorrect | 00:16 |
| jwfoxjr | Y-RAQ-DEL2 | 00:18 |
| jwfoxjr | looks like this model randomly generates it's passcode. I just tried pairing it with my android phone, and got two different codes when I tried pairing. | 00:22 |
| x350 | Hey, looking for some support. =/ | 00:39 |
| holstein | x350: this is a great channel for it, or main #ubuntu... or http://askubuntu.com/ | 00:40 |
| x350 | just joined thanks | 00:41 |
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| philippe | hey | 01:34 |
| === philippe is now known as Guest57687 | ||
| Guest57687 | hello | 01:35 |
| Guest57687 | is 11.10 rubbish or what? | 01:35 |
| Guest57687 | I am thinking about going back to an older version | 01:35 |
| holstein | sure.. go to the LTS | 01:35 |
| Guest57687 | What number is that? | 01:36 |
| Guest57687 | 8.04? | 01:36 |
| holstein | 10.04... but 11.10 is working well for me and others.. could be some driver support | 01:36 |
| Guest57687 | I have two main gripes with 11.10 | 01:36 |
| holstein | 8.04 was an LTS, so is 10.04, and 10.04 is supported for another year + | 01:36 |
| Guest57687 | Do you care to hear them? | 01:36 |
| GridCube | 11.10 its pretty much awesome | 01:36 |
| Guest57687 | Maybe one of you can help me with my problem | 01:37 |
| holstein | Guest57687: if you would like to be prepared for troubleshooting, we can help you addres your concerns, or issues | 01:37 |
| Guest57687 | It's my wireless card | 01:37 |
| GridCube | !detail | 01:37 |
| GridCube | !details | 01:37 |
| ubottu | Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." | 01:37 |
| Guest57687 | when I am on battery the light goes off on it and I notice the internet either slows down or completely stops | 01:38 |
| Guest57687 | Like it's not getting enough juice | 01:38 |
| Guest57687 | Never had that problem on a previous version of xubuntu | 01:38 |
| holstein | sounds like hardware to me.. or just a coincidence you are misinterpreting | 01:38 |
| Guest57687 | and I sometimes need to be on battery power onloy | 01:38 |
| Guest57687 | only | 01:38 |
| Guest57687 | But the lights ALWAYS stay on on power | 01:38 |
| Guest57687 | and internet never stops working | 01:39 |
| Guest57687 | I googled for help or similar and I haven't had any luck | 01:39 |
| holstein | right.. i suspect its because that could be a hardware issue | 01:39 |
| quicklogic | Typically if it is working without errors and the only issue you are seeing is the wireless light is turning off/on and the connection seems slow or interrupted, Id have to agree that it is possibly a hardware issue | 01:40 |
| quicklogic | I assume that this is an internal wireless card? | 01:41 |
| Guest57687 | It is a PCMCIA wireless card | 01:41 |
| Guest57687 | Thanks for your help so far | 01:41 |
| quicklogic | If you have access to another computer or access to another PCMCIA I would test the card/cards | 01:41 |
| Guest57687 | I will google it some more | 01:41 |
| holstein | i would remove it, and test with it out... if everything seems normal, i would check and research the drivers you are using, and what other drivers might be available for the wifi card in question | 01:42 |
| holstein | and ideally, as quicklogic suggests.. confirming the card is good in another machine | 01:42 |
| Guest57687 | The card works absolutely fine with power cord | 01:43 |
| Guest57687 | Which would suggest to me it is a software issue when switching to battery | 01:43 |
| holstein | Guest57687: try some other software too then.. try main ubuntu live.. try 10.04.. try the upcoming 12.04... im still not convinced its software related though | 01:45 |
| Guest57687 | Ok I will do holstein | 01:45 |
| Guest57687 | THanks | 01:46 |
| Guest57687 | can I ask you my second question? | 01:46 |
| holstein | Guest57687: if you havent.. its not a bad idea to check for and apply all upgrades | 01:46 |
| holstein | Guest57687: you can just ask here.. you dont have to ask if its OK... | 01:47 |
| Guest57687 | ok | 01:47 |
| Guest57687 | I like to watch sopcast streams sometimes and I get a 100% buffering which would always give a nice smooth video on VLC on past xubuntu kernels | 01:48 |
| Guest57687 | But on 11.10 VLC sometimes freezes, even though I am still buffering at 100% | 01:48 |
| Guest57687 | I tried SMPLayer and it has similar symptoms | 01:49 |
| holstein | Guest57687: xubuntu kernels are the same as ubuntu kernels.. you can always go back to that kernel that you were enjoying... i would think it would be graphics card driver related though | 01:49 |
| philippe_ | Hi | 01:51 |
| philippe_ | I am back | 01:51 |
| philippe_ | sorry my laptop crashed! | 01:51 |
| philippe_ | I like to watch sopcast streams sometimes and I get a 100% buffering which would always give a nice smooth video on VLC on past xubuntu kernels | 01:51 |
| philippe_ | But on 11.10 VLC sometimes freezes, even though I am still buffering at 100% | 01:51 |
| holstein | Guest57687: xubuntu kernels are the same as ubuntu kernels.. you can always go back to that kernel that you were enjoying... i would think it would be graphics card driver related though | 01:51 |
| holstein | philippe_: ^^ | 01:51 |
| philippe_ | Ah ok | 01:51 |
| philippe_ | Is it not that VLC doesnt have enough cache for the video or something? | 01:52 |
| philippe_ | and I need to increase it or something | 01:52 |
| philippe_ | Because it is downloading whilst playing | 01:52 |
| holstein | philippe_: i almost exclusively find graphics issues related to the graphics hardware/driver | 01:52 |
| philippe_ | oh ok | 01:53 |
| philippe_ | thanks | 01:53 |
| holstein | i would try and look for a quality setting server side | 01:53 |
| philippe_ | I will look into it | 01:53 |
| philippe_ | What does quality setting server side mean? | 01:53 |
| holstein | philippe_: on the server... asking it to stream at a lower quality to test | 01:53 |
| philippe_ | I cant do anything with the guys server who is putting the stream out can I? | 01:53 |
| philippe_ | Oh I see what you mean | 01:54 |
| holstein | philippe_: i dont know.. you can look into it though | 01:54 |
| philippe_ | I can try a channel with a lower bandwidth to test | 01:54 |
| holstein | yup... that'll do it | 01:54 |
| philippe_ | maybe it's just a too high a bandwidth stream for my old laptop | 01:54 |
| philippe_ | This place is awesome | 01:56 |
| philippe_ | Thanks for the help | 01:56 |
| holstein | philippe_: sure... anytime :) | 01:56 |
| philippe_ | It has restored some faith in 11.10 now :D | 01:56 |
| philippe_ | BTW when is the next kernel out? | 01:56 |
| philippe_ | 12.04 is it? | 01:56 |
| holstein | philippe_: there are mainline kernels for testing.. there will be a newer one than what you have released and maintained for 12.04 | 01:57 |
| philippe_ | ah ok | 01:57 |
| philippe_ | Is it due out anytime soon? | 01:57 |
| holstein | philippe_: there has been 12.04 daily testing images for quite some time | 01:58 |
| philippe_ | ah ok | 01:58 |
| holstein | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 01:58 |
| philippe_ | Thanks for the info | 01:58 |
| holstein | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ | 01:58 |
| holstein | ^^ xubuntu ones | 01:58 |
| philippe_ | I am just gonna test something here holstein | 01:59 |
| philippe_ | BRB | 01:59 |
| philippe | Hey | 02:01 |
| philippe | You know what holstein | 02:01 |
| philippe | I just fixed my wireless card issue! | 02:01 |
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| philippe_ | hello | 02:03 |
| philippe_ | i am back | 02:03 |
| philippe_ | holstein are you there? | 02:03 |
| holstein | philippe_: o/ ... whats up? | 02:09 |
| philippe_ | I fixed my wireless card issue! | 02:10 |
| holstein | congrats | 02:10 |
| philippe_ | It was going into powersaving mode on battery | 02:10 |
| philippe_ | which killed it | 02:10 |
| philippe_ | and now the lights stay on on battery and I'm pretty sure the internet won't go down now I disabled it :) | 02:11 |
| holstein | yeah, the XFCE power management can take a minute to get used to if you are coming from gnome or whatever | 02:11 |
| philippe_ | and I'm now watching womens netball to see how smooth vlc is | 02:12 |
| philippe_ | It's no basketball | 02:12 |
| philippe_ | Can I ask for your expertise once more holstein? | 02:13 |
| philippe_ | It's more laptop related than xubuntu though | 02:14 |
| holstein | philippe_: sure.. if its not xubuntu related, we should go to #xubuntu-offtopic | 02:14 |
| philippe_ | ok I go there | 02:15 |
| philippe_ | One sec | 02:15 |
| n2diy | Wow, one of my panels just disappeared! The clock is blinking, but my apps and places menus are gone!? | 03:31 |
| n2diy | Right clicked on the clock, then panel prefrences, tweaked the pixels, and got it back, weird. | 03:32 |
| Tortilla | Duders, are any Xubuntu builds prior to 11.10 known to be significantly faster on "weenie" hardware (2007-ish netbook)? | 04:31 |
| Tortilla | (potentially an idiot question - i'm very new to Linux) | 04:32 |
| Unit193 | Specs? | 04:33 |
| Tortilla | intel atom (1.1gHz I believe) 2gigs RAM, XP service pack 3 | 04:34 |
| Tortilla | Lenovo s10-2 | 04:34 |
| Unit193 | 11.10 didn't work for you? 10.04 was the last "LTS" so that'd be worth a shot | 04:36 |
| Tortilla | it works, and i LOVE it, but even as is has a lot that I wouldn't use on this machine, just wondered if there was any "known" streamlined version | 04:37 |
| Tortilla | will look into 10.04 | 04:37 |
| Tortilla | thank you! | 04:37 |
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| Mikael____ | Hello, I am running Xubuntu 11.10 with XFCE 4.8. I got two 5770's running in crossfire, connected to 2 monitors (DVI Monitor and TV through HDMI). When connected to the TV (Volume is at 60 percent on computer) the sound is distorted, cracks and pops. Any ideas? | 07:54 |
| csenger41 | hello | 08:11 |
| csenger41 | anyone active here? | 08:11 |
| reon | maybe | 08:11 |
| csenger41 | great | 08:12 |
| csenger41 | could you help me why I can't install Xubuntu from CD to a computer? | 08:12 |
| reon | I can try but i've never had that issue. What's the problem | 08:12 |
| seicean | hello. i'm new to the xubuntu world and I have a slight issue regarding a video problem. When i connect the external monitor (Asus P223), the system does not recognise it. My card: NVIDIA Geforce 9300MGS. I installed the latest additional drivers. ideas? | 08:12 |
| reon | seicean, did you install the nvidia drivers? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates | 08:14 |
| _Pete_ | seicean: you mean it's not shown in nvidia-settings after you do "detect displays" from there? | 08:14 |
| csenger41 | after selecting install Xubuntu from menu, it stops at the command: | 08:14 |
| seicean | i installed the restricted driver in the settings menu | 08:14 |
| seicean | the monitor DOES appear in nvidia settings, but is not responsive when i click apply | 08:15 |
| seicean | i usually click Fn+F7 | 08:15 |
| seicean | it usually worked in older ubuntu | 08:15 |
| reon | seicean, add that ppa and install nvidia-current nvidia-common nvidia settings. afterwards use the nvidia-settings util to configure your monitors. | 08:15 |
| seicean | ok. thanks | 08:16 |
| reon | seican, uninstall the old stuff first. in order to apply the settings you need to run the settings util with sudo | 08:16 |
| csenger41 | udevd[111]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:*long code from numbers and some letters* '[208] terminated by signal 9 (killed) | 08:17 |
| seicean | @reon: which ppa should I add? | 08:17 |
| _Pete_ | reon: I think you can apply settings without sudo but not save them, saving needs sudo | 08:18 |
| reon | seicean, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates | 08:18 |
| reon | _Pete_ correct | 08:18 |
| reon | csenger41, are you using the desktop or alternate install cd? | 08:19 |
| csenger41 | reon: desktop | 08:19 |
| csenger41 | amd64 | 08:19 |
| csenger41 | wait now we managed to get through that error, but then it gives another: | 08:19 |
| reon | csenger41, and you select the install option right after bios as the cd loads before it loads the livecd desktop environment? | 08:20 |
| csenger41 | sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached the SCSI dick | 08:20 |
| reon | csenger41, 11.10? What MB you got? | 08:20 |
| Mikael____ | Hello Reon, can you help me too? You seem to be the only one active. I am running Xubuntu 11.10 with XFCE 4.8. I got two 5770's running in crossfire, connected to 2 monitors (DVI Monitor and TV through HDMI). When connected to the TV (Volume is at 60 percent on computer) the sound is distorted, cracks and pops. Any ideas? | 08:20 |
| csenger41 | this is after selecting install | 08:20 |
| csenger41 | yup 11.10, how you mean MB? | 08:21 |
| reon | Mikael____ Sorry no idea dude, did you check the forums? | 08:21 |
| csenger41 | same problem occurs if i try to start liveCD | 08:21 |
| reon | csenger41 motherboard | 08:21 |
| Mikael____ | reon, I've tried googling for it with Xubuntu keywords :x | 08:22 |
| reon | csenger41 and is you try from USB? | 08:22 |
| csenger41 | reon: its a notebook | 08:22 |
| csenger41 | no, from CD | 08:22 |
| csenger41 | but the same problem happened when tried from USB | 08:22 |
| reon | csenger41 have you tried putting the iso image on a USB stick and booting off that? Can use dd or Unetbootin for that | 08:22 |
| seicean | @reon: sorry, ppa line not accepted | 08:23 |
| seicean | should i disable the drivers first? | 08:23 |
| csenger41 | reon: yes, I tried that before and the same thing happened | 08:23 |
| csenger41 | sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk | 08:24 |
| reon | csenger41, What make and model notebook? | 08:24 |
| csenger41 | reon: Acer Aspire 5750G | 08:24 |
| Mikael____ | reon, it should be noted that I don't have this problem in Ubuntu, only in xubuntu. It's weird for me because they use the same base, correct? | 08:25 |
| reon | seicean, go to that link I gave you, read the 'Read about installing' link and then use the PPA details just below that | 08:25 |
| hobgoblin | csenger41: is this a DIY pc or one you can give us the make/model of | 08:25 |
| hobgoblin | sorry - page not updating then lol | 08:25 |
| reon | Mikael____ Think so but not sure. | 08:25 |
| csenger41 | hobgoblin: at the bottom it says: Aspire 5750G-2434G64Mnbb | 08:27 |
| Mikael____ | reon, is there another IRC channel perhaps that specifies more in pulseaudio problems? | 08:27 |
| Mikael____ | That won't direct me back to here I mean, since this is a sound related issue. :) | 08:27 |
| hobgoblin | csenger41: is the iso from a torrent - if nnot have you checked the md5sum, have you verified the burn? | 08:28 |
| Mikael____ | Sometimes, there's an obvious answer right infront of me, sorry. | 08:28 |
| reon | Mikael____ Dunno, gonna say google | 08:28 |
| csenger41 | hobgoblin: no, its from direct download but verified | 08:28 |
| hobgoblin | csenger41: both the burn and the md5sum ? | 08:29 |
| csenger41 | only the burn | 08:29 |
| seicean | ok. ppa line added. now it's showing me 3 updates in the update manager... | 08:29 |
| csenger41 | hobgoblin: don't know how MD5 works, never tried that | 08:30 |
| hobgoblin | csenger41: hang on then | 08:30 |
| reon | seicean, uninstall the old drivers first, reboot and then install the new ones just to be on the safe side | 08:30 |
| hobgoblin | csenger41: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM | 08:30 |
| reon | csenger41, Your laptop got optimus? | 08:30 |
| seicean | ok. i'll do that... | 08:30 |
| csenger41 | reon: no its has only Bumblebee lol | 08:31 |
| csenger41 | btw idk whats optimus | 08:31 |
| csenger41 | could you explain that to me please? | 08:31 |
| reon | csenger41, hang five just looking at something for you | 08:32 |
| Mikael____ | Well, I searched the forums, no luck :( | 08:34 |
| reon | csenger41, Just gonna start up xubuntu livecd in a vm to look at some boot options, brb | 08:36 |
| hobgoblin | reon: Id' try nomodeset | 08:37 |
| seicean | i installed from the ppa and i get"sorry, the installation of driver failed. please see log file" | 08:38 |
| seicean | i get this for every available driver, 4 in total | 08:39 |
| reon | what does th log file say? | 08:39 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:38,664 ERROR: XorgDriverHandler.enable(): package or module not installed, aborting | 08:42 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:38,673 ERROR: xorg:nvidia_current: get_alternative_by_name(nvidia-current) returned nothing | 08:42 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:38,793 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_current).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/nvidia-current/alt_ld.so.conf | 08:42 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:38,793 DEBUG: nvidia_current is not the alternative in use | 08:42 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,111 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_173).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/nvidia-current/alt_ld.so.conf | 08:42 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,112 DEBUG: nvidia_173 is not the alternative in use | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,181 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_173_updates).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/nvidia-current/alt_ld.so.conf | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,182 DEBUG: nvidia_173_updates is not the alternative in use | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,318 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_current).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/nvidia-current/alt_ld.so.conf | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,318 DEBUG: nvidia_current is not the alternative in use | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,461 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_current_updates).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/nvidia-current/alt_ld.so.conf | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,461 DEBUG: nvidia_current_updates is not the alternative in use | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,537 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_current).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/ld.so.conf other target alt None other current alt /usr/lib/nvidia-current/alt_ld.so.conf | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,537 DEBUG: nvidia_current is not the alternative in use | 08:43 |
| seicean | 2012-01-19 10:41:53,617 DEBUG: NVidia(nvidia_173).enabled(): target_alt None current_alt /usr/ | 08:43 |
| csenger41 | hold on dude | 08:43 |
| csenger41 | use pastebin or something like that | 08:43 |
| hobgoblin | !paste | 08:43 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:43 |
| seicean | sorry | 08:43 |
| seicean | here is the complete log file http://paste.ubuntu.com/809447/ | 08:44 |
| reon | csenger41, at boot hit Esc and then F6 and select nomodeset and see if that allows you to boot.. | 08:45 |
| reon | csenger41, else try the text installer option | 08:46 |
| csenger41 | at computer boot? | 08:46 |
| hobgoblin | when the livecd starts hit space when you see the man and keyboard | 08:47 |
| reon | when the livecd boots | 08:47 |
| csenger41 | ok trying | 08:47 |
| csenger41 | ok now its working | 08:50 |
| csenger41 | Xubuntu 11.10 appeared and the dots are going under it | 08:50 |
| reon | ok. stay here and let us know how the install goes, afterwards there might be one or two issue with that laptop I came across | 08:51 |
| csenger41 | ok now the cursor appeared | 08:51 |
| csenger41 | ^.^ | 08:51 |
| seicean | any ideas on the log file? | 08:52 |
| reon | seicean, open a terminal and copy/past sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates | 08:55 |
| reon | csenger41, all still good? | 08:56 |
| reon | seicean? | 08:56 |
| seicean | ok. did that | 08:56 |
| reon | seicean, paste: sudo apt-get update | 08:57 |
| seicean | ok | 08:57 |
| reon | seicean, did you hit [enter]? | 08:57 |
| seicean | yes | 08:57 |
| reon | when you added the repo | 08:57 |
| seicean | yep | 08:58 |
| reon | seicean, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | 08:58 |
| csenger41 | yay now its working | 08:58 |
| csenger41 | installer is good | 08:58 |
| seicean | ok. installing nvidia..... | 08:59 |
| seicean | DKMS: install Completed. | 09:00 |
| reon | csenger41, after the install and reboot you might find you cannot adjust the brightness, have a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1802755 | 09:00 |
| reon | seicean, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings | 09:01 |
| seicean | done | 09:01 |
| reon | seicean, reboot | 09:01 |
| seicean | ok | 09:01 |
| reon | csenger41, let me know when you reboot | 09:02 |
| seicean | rebooted | 09:04 |
| csenger41 | reon: ok | 09:04 |
| reon | csenger41, so you rebooted? | 09:04 |
| reon | and your laptop has a nividia chipset? | 09:05 |
| reon | seicean, is everything ok? | 09:05 |
| csenger41 | reon: no not yet, CD install is slow as hell :S | 09:05 |
| reon | :D | 09:06 |
| seicean | @reon: the nvidia [recommended] are activated by default | 09:06 |
| seicean | i'll check to see if the external monitor is working | 09:06 |
| csenger41 | ok restarting now | 09:09 |
| reon | let me know when you done | 09:10 |
| reon | seicean, how's it going? | 09:10 |
| seicean | i managed to extend the display the right | 09:11 |
| seicean | but still cannot disable the main laptop screen | 09:12 |
| csenger41 | ok restarted but screen is dark and does nothing | 09:12 |
| reon | csenger41, do the nomodeset thing again when you boot | 09:13 |
| reon | seicean, if you select the laptop display and then click on the resolution drop down and select 'Off' what happens? Don't you have Fn keys on the keyboard to disable the display? | 09:14 |
| seicean | Fn + F7 still not responding | 09:15 |
| reon | seicean, you might have to google that, what laptop do you have? | 09:15 |
| reon | I hate laptops | 09:15 |
| seicean | Lenovo N500... question: should i disable the laptop screen and leave the external only (requires X restart) | 09:16 |
| reon | csenger41 ? | 09:16 |
| reon | seicean, just out of curiosity why do you want to disable it? | 09:17 |
| csenger41 | reon: hold on, had to check something in Windows | 09:17 |
| csenger41 | could that be the problem that swap and EXT4 are on logical partitions? | 09:18 |
| seicean | @reon: to use it as a main screen at 1920x1060. otherwise the laptop screen will block the resolution at 1280 and the bottom bar is inacessible | 09:19 |
| reon | seicean, but you can set different resolutions for each display? | 09:20 |
| csenger41 | reon: installation is done, but when I'm trying to boot xubuntu after selecting it from grub, it loads for a while then it stops and the screen goes dark | 09:20 |
| reon | csenger41, don;t think so | 09:20 |
| reon | csenger41, did you do the nomodeset thing at the grub menu? | 09:21 |
| csenger41 | how to do that? :S | 09:21 |
| seicean | apparently, useless. ex: watching a youtube video on external display (1920 resolution) will get to "fullscreen" at the main screen resosution (1280)... | 09:22 |
| seicean | what if i save x conf file and set the external as main ??? will that do any damage? | 09:22 |
| hobgoblin | csenger41: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10069997&postcount=1 have a alook at temporarily set boot option on installed | 09:22 |
| reon | seicean, no | 09:22 |
| reon | seicean, no damage | 09:23 |
| seicean | ok. i'll try that. it requires restart | 09:23 |
| reon | hobgoblin, thanks you saved me a search ;) | 09:23 |
| hobgoblin | reon: welcome :) | 09:23 |
| reon | seicean, csenger41 brb need my nicotine fix | 09:25 |
| seicean | ok. thanks. | 09:25 |
| csenger41 | reon: lol ok | 09:25 |
| reon | will go later | 09:26 |
| reon | csenger41, let me know when you have rebooted with the nomodeset option | 09:27 |
| csenger41 | reon: im doing it now | 09:28 |
| seicean | aparently, i'm not the only one having problems with the external monitor thing on lenovo. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_video_output_switching#Problems_with_Intel_chipsets | 09:28 |
| csenger41 | hobgoblin: the link you gave has a big error lol | 09:28 |
| csenger41 | on the picture the guy typed nomodest instead of nomodeset lol | 09:29 |
| hobgoblin | yea - he knows ;) | 09:29 |
| hobgoblin | but the method is good | 09:30 |
| csenger41 | ok restarted now configuring the grub with that guide on the link | 09:31 |
| hobgoblin | csenger41: k | 09:31 |
| reon | seicean, maybe start a support thread on the forums with all the details listed | 09:31 |
| reon | seicean, at least you can now see the display which is a start | 09:32 |
| seicean | you might have a point! yes, the display is visible. | 09:32 |
| seicean | i also had ubuntu 10.10, and i clearly remember that EVERYTHING was working out of the box. including shortcut keys | 09:33 |
| csenger41 | fckyeah its working | 09:33 |
| csenger41 | thank you guys for the help :) | 09:33 |
| csenger41 | ur awesome :3 | 09:33 |
| hobgoblin | reon was :) | 09:33 |
| seicean | i think everything went downhill after 11.04, which was a pain in the ass | 09:34 |
| reon | csenger41, hang on it's not done | 09:34 |
| reon | you still have to install the proper nvidia drivers and setup for optimus | 09:35 |
| csenger41 | i g2g now to eat something :) | 09:36 |
| reon | csenger41, Read this http://www.ivegotavirus.com/blog/2011/11/06/how-to-get-optimus-working-on-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric/ | 09:36 |
| csenger41 | its been 14 hours I've ate anything | 09:36 |
| csenger41 | *eaten | 09:36 |
| reon | and it's been 3hrs since I had a nicotine fix | 09:36 |
| csenger41 | brb 30min | 09:36 |
| * hobgoblin sends reon an ethersmoke | 09:37 | |
| reon | thanks but now I gotto go for the real thing. Might as well get some food as well | 09:37 |
| hobgoblin | lol | 09:37 |
| reon | csenger41, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1802755 | 09:38 |
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| jn_ | Stranges thing, using AWN and have a netbeans, jdownloader and freemind launcher. All java applications, When i launch them they all open up in the netbeans launcher, makes no sense =) | 13:37 |
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| kristjan | hi, which display manager does xubuntu 11.10 use by default? is it lightdm? | 17:13 |
| Sysi | yup | 17:15 |
| xubuntu | hey guys | 17:31 |
| xubuntu | i have a problem | 17:31 |
| xubuntu | i am installing xubuntu 11.10 right now | 17:31 |
| xubuntu | i did it once earlier | 17:31 |
| xubuntu | but now | 17:31 |
| xubuntu | when i select my language | 17:32 |
| xubuntu | and then there is a screen with preparing to isntall xubuntu | 17:32 |
| xubuntu | and when i click at continue | 17:32 |
| xubuntu | it freezes ... | 17:32 |
| xubuntu | :-( | 17:32 |
| xubuntu | my previous distro was fedora 16 xfce | 17:32 |
| xubuntu | eh GUYS | 17:33 |
| GridCube | mmm | 17:35 |
| GridCube | that sounds like a problem | 17:36 |
| GridCube | are you using the installer from the livecd | 17:36 |
| GridCube | or the direct install | 17:36 |
| xubuntu | universal usb installer | 17:37 |
| xubuntu | via usb | 17:37 |
| xubuntu | ii am using it always | 17:37 |
| xubuntu | and always it is working fine | 17:37 |
| xubuntu | i tried same grid | 17:37 |
| xubuntu | GridCube ^ | 17:38 |
| xubuntu | and then i do sudo killall ubiquity xD | 17:38 |
| xubuntu | the installer is extremely slow | 17:39 |
| xubuntu | .. | 17:39 |
| xubuntu | ARE YOU THERE? | 17:39 |
| GridCube | xubuntu im here | 17:39 |
| GridCube | now, please calm down | 17:39 |
| xubuntu | ok | 17:39 |
| GridCube | some times on some hardware it takes a time to thing to be done | 17:39 |
| xubuntu | yes | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | but i am a distrohopper | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | and i want to try xubuntu again | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | andit worked always fast | 17:40 |
| GridCube | if you do the only install thing you can alt-f4 and see how its going | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | have 8gb ram | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | 2.93 ghz | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | so it isnt my hardware :p | 17:40 |
| GridCube | i don't know :( | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | ok | 17:40 |
| GridCube | but you can try the alternate cd | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | no not the alternate | 17:40 |
| GridCube | i've never had problems with it | 17:40 |
| xubuntu | ... | 17:40 |
| GridCube | i use it all the time :) | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | i have tried to put the alternate on an usb stick | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | but it didnt worked :-( | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | ok | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | i am now gonna eat | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | its 17:41 here | 17:41 |
| GridCube | well i use it with unetbooting | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | and i will wathc it when i am back | 17:41 |
| GridCube | and it worked :) | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | ok | 17:41 |
| xubuntu | me with universal usb installer | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | from pendrive | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | always a good program | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | very easy to use | 17:42 |
| GridCube | yep, pendrive, but unetbootin | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | ... | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | well | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | good day | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | foru | 17:42 |
| GridCube | :) | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | i am gonna eat now | 17:42 |
| GridCube | good for you too | 17:42 |
| GridCube | enjoy your eatings | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | :) | 17:42 |
| xubuntu | thanks | 17:42 |
| fivedaysahead | enjoy your meal | 17:46 |
| fivedaysahead | why can users i create see the home directory of other users :( | 17:46 |
| GridCube | because they all share the same groups | 17:48 |
| fivedaysahead | ooh | 17:48 |
| fivedaysahead | which group is that? | 17:48 |
| GridCube | root? users? | 17:49 |
| GridCube | dunno | 17:49 |
| fivedaysahead | users maybe | 17:49 |
| fivedaysahead | thanks gridcube | 17:49 |
| fivedaysahead | that makes sense | 17:49 |
| GridCube | no problem :) enjoy your quest for groups | 17:49 |
| GridCube | :P | 17:49 |
| fivedaysahead | heh | 17:49 |
| fivedaysahead | :) | 17:50 |
| fivedaysahead | hmm it won't let me transfer files between users? | 17:51 |
| fivedaysahead | from one home directory to another | 17:51 |
| fivedaysahead | even they they all can see one another | 17:51 |
| fivedaysahead | permissions i think | 17:58 |
| fivedaysahead | hmm | 17:58 |
| xubuntu | GridCube | 18:10 |
| xubuntu | Waiting is the right thing :p | 18:11 |
| xubuntu | i am now a step further | 18:11 |
| xubuntu | :-) | 18:11 |
| fivedaysahead | still can't figure out why users can see other users home directory but not transfer between them | 18:11 |
| xubuntu | lol | 18:11 |
| xubuntu | maby safety things? | 18:11 |
| fivedaysahead | safety? | 18:12 |
| fivedaysahead | hmm maybe idk what that means | 18:12 |
| mongy | xubuntu, I use grub2 to boot the iso of alternate iso. works fine. | 18:12 |
| reon | fivedaysahead, rights issue? one user does not have rights to another users stuff. security. | 18:14 |
| Myrtti | it's common unix practise, those file permissions | 18:20 |
| GridCube | fivedaysahead, http://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-file-and-directory-permissions/1047531 | 18:23 |
| GridCube | :) | 18:23 |
| GridCube | fivedaysahead, look at this, i know its in spañish but you will get its meaning http://imagebin.org/194475 | 18:24 |
| GridCube | lectura means "read by" so when it says "lectura por grupo" and "lectura por otros" means, reading by group and reading by others, you need to change this | 18:25 |
| TobyK | Hi, I am new to xubuntu (and linux in general), installed it 4-5 days ago. I have been trying to get my dual screen setup to work properly ever since the install. I have managed to get it up and running somewhat (every time I boot my system my windows manager is " bugged" and I have to manually replace it (xfwm4 --replace)), on top of that I can't enter my Display settings, getting a RandR error when I do so. Lastly, with this boot my second screen has becom | 19:18 |
| TobyK | e black, I can move my mousepointer over it, but it does not show anything else .. I am using ati drivers which I downloaded (not the fglrx from apt, the one from their website) | 19:18 |
| TobyK | I must note that I only got my dual screen setup working after I changed my xorg.conf file ... to set Xinerama to 'on'. Looking back at my xorg.conf file now, it seems as if it is empty again | 19:20 |
| TobyK | If someone could, in some way, help me out I'd be very greatful :-) | 19:21 |
| mongy | have a look at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 and http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Dual.2FMulti_Monitors | 19:21 |
| TobyK | mongy, that's the guide I followed :) | 19:21 |
| mongy | :( | 19:22 |
| TobyK | well, just let me try some stuff and reboot then | 19:23 |
| TobyK | can't hurt anyway | 19:23 |
| TobyK | might be back in a bit haha :D | 19:23 |
| autif | This exchange above reminds me of an XKCD cartoon http://xkcd.com/456/ | 19:30 |
| TobyK | Ok so apparently I could make it worse. Is there a simple way to reset GUI related things (basically, I want a clean XFCE again)? Because my program bar on the bottom is gone and so is my task bar at the top ... now I am completely lost | 19:38 |
| TheSheep | TobyK: create a new user | 19:38 |
| TheSheep | TobyK: it's the easiest way | 19:38 |
| TheSheep | TobyK: also, press alt+f2 and type xfc4-panel to get your panels back | 19:38 |
| TheSheep | xfce4-panel | 19:39 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 19:39 |
| TobyK | well, that did not work at all | 19:39 |
| TobyK | no bars what so ever | 19:39 |
| joey_ | Hello | 19:40 |
| mongy | TobyK, guess you'll have to remove the driver as described in that page. don't forget to remove the xorg.conf as well | 19:42 |
| TobyK | hmm mongy I haven't removed xorg yet, hopefully that'll help | 19:43 |
| TobyK | but I think I need a new GUI too, this one is messed up lol | 19:43 |
| mongy | I've never used a dual monitor setup so have nothing to contribute really. | 19:43 |
| mongy | I'm a pretty simple user.. | 19:44 |
| TobyK | well, it's sure as hell not as easy as in windows :p (don't shoot me) | 19:44 |
| TobyK | I like linux, always have, just never had the courage to go through with the learning phase | 19:45 |
| TheSheep | windows also has its hairy moments, especially with older hardware | 19:45 |
| TheSheep | the problem of supporting lots of different hardware configurationsi is hard in general | 19:46 |
| TheSheep | apple has the upper hand because it controls the hardware | 19:47 |
| TobyK | aye, that's why everybody's on the mac train these days :) | 19:47 |
| TheSheep | but even they are losing control recently | 19:47 |
| TheSheep | with the ssd disks and such | 19:47 |
| TobyK | ahh well, I am working at a development firm and I am the only non-linux guy there (I am a designer haha) so I felt it was about time I started learning linux :) | 19:49 |
| TobyK | it's biting me in the ass right now though, my screens are completely screwed up, but I will find a solution somehow | 19:49 |
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| vizvo | !help | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 21:33 |
| vizvo | !patience | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ | 21:33 |
| JWFoxJr | Ok, so I've been working with Xubuntu 11.10 for a couple of days, and found that I need to change the way I do things some (coming from vanilla Ubuntu). | 21:46 |
| JWFoxJr | I'm having a problem with external USB drives. The drives mount, but I don't have permission to write to them. | 21:46 |
| JWFoxJr | ls -l in the media directory shows them owned by root:root - what do I need to do to have these writable by a user - is this a groups issue? | 21:47 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: no, you just need to make them writable by users on the drive by chmod or chown | 21:54 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: they have their own permissions like any other disk | 21:54 |
| JWFoxJr | TheSheep: is this just how it's handled with Thunar under XFCE? I haven't run into this issue with Nautilus. | 21:55 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: no, it's just how file permissions work on linux | 21:55 |
| JWFoxJr | Please don't assume that I don't know anything; as I said, I've been running vanilla Ubuntu for years, and have never had to adjust permissions for a USB drive when I plug it in. | 21:57 |
| JWFoxJr | That's why I asked if it was how Thunar handles mounting the drive | 21:57 |
| holstein | interesting... what filesystem JWFoxJr ? | 21:58 |
| JWFoxJr | Ext4 | 21:58 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: the ownership and permissions of the files are saved on the disk together with the files | 21:58 |
| JWFoxJr | and it's not an issue with one Xubuntu install - I'm having the issue on 4 systems. | 21:59 |
| JWFoxJr | Nope that's not it - wiped the partition on the drive and did a brand new mkfs.ext4 on the drive | 21:59 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: just chown it to your user | 21:59 |
| holstein | i think its the ext format.. not that you shouldnt use it.. i have only been using fat | 21:59 |
| holstein | but, the chown 'll do it | 22:00 |
| JWFoxJr | well, I guess I'll go with that then... | 22:00 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: chown the top directory of the drive after you have mounted it | 22:00 |
| holstein | its not a hack or anything... its just claiming the disk... quite common | 22:00 |
| JWFoxJr | Maybe vanilla Ubuntu has made me lazy - LOL | 22:02 |
| holstein | i dont know.. i added an ext2 drive to vanilla, and needed to chown it | 22:02 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: it works exactly the same way on ubuntu | 22:02 |
| holstein | maybe it was more to do with the way the drive was formatted | 22:02 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: and on any posix system in the world | 22:03 |
| holstein | i have had that issue on OSX | 22:03 |
| JWFoxJr | TheSheep - like I said - on Ubuntu I never, since at least Fiesty had to change the permissions on an ext3 or ext4 drive when I plugged it in - I always had r/w on it. | 22:04 |
| holstein | interesting.. i have always had to.. again, mabye it has to do with the way you format, and the ownership at that stage | 22:05 |
| holstein | regardless, you are not finding the drive writeable, and chown is the way to get that functionality | 22:06 |
| TheSheep | JWFoxJr: apparently the tool you used to format it changed the ownership of the top directory for you | 22:06 |
| JWFoxJr | I don't know - maybe the solution is just to find a Windows box and format it NTFS and just use fuse. | 22:08 |
| JWFoxJr | It's a portable USB drive, so I use it in many places. | 22:09 |
| holstein | gparted is what i use | 22:09 |
| holstein | i prefer fat... unless i need it for big files | 22:09 |
| JWFoxJr | I know I can create an NTFS from linux - just set the partitition type to #7, but gparted will actually format it? | 22:10 |
| holstein | i have made them with gparted.. thats the tool i use... gparted, from a live CD, or from within ubuntu | 22:11 |
| JWFoxJr | ok, thanks for the help - time to go drive home in a snow storm (outside of Buffalo, NY) | 22:11 |
| holstein | i think it was osx that was a drag to use with ntfs, and i dont personally take advantage of the differences between FAT and ntfs | 22:11 |
| TheSheep | buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo! | 22:14 |
| Myrtti | gruffalo. | 22:15 |
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| harris | hello | 22:48 |
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