| merlin1991 | hm muon keeps segfaulting on start | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| merlin1991 | wtf? | 00:02 |
| merlin1991 | more exactly, muon-installer does that | 00:02 |
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| Kezryk | Can someone tell me why i can not login after i install Kubuntu. i enter info exactly but it stays on login | 00:38 |
| Kezryk | Anyone even here | 00:40 |
| BarkingFish | Kezryk: Yes, we're here | 00:41 |
| Kezryk | Is support here | 00:41 |
| BarkingFish | Not always watching the channel though, some of us are in a lot of different places :) | 00:41 |
| BarkingFish | Yes, this is the support channel. | 00:41 |
| BarkingFish | So you're trying to login, right? Which display manager are you using? KDM? | 00:42 |
| Kezryk | I am trying to install Kubuntu, i have always been mswindows user, but want to try linux and i cant login after i install it | 00:42 |
| BarkingFish | So you have installed it, but now you can't logon, is that correct? | 00:43 |
| Kezryk | what ever th default is | 00:43 |
| Kezryk | yes | 00:43 |
| BarkingFish | Ok. I will tell you firstly, how to restart the display manager. | 00:44 |
| BarkingFish | wait until I have explained this, before you do it. | 00:44 |
| Kezryk | ok actually just reinstalling it | 00:45 |
| Kezryk | for the umteenth time | 00:45 |
| BarkingFish | keep this information though, just in case | 00:45 |
| BarkingFish | You need to press CTRL, ALT and F1 together, and try to login on a terminal. | 00:45 |
| popitnow | Maybe you should also try to log in with a text terminal | 00:45 |
| popitnow | ha | 00:45 |
| popitnow | :) | 00:45 |
| BarkingFish | if you can login there, type in sudo service kdm restart and hit enter | 00:45 |
| Kezryk | terminal server from windows will work?? | 00:46 |
| BarkingFish | no, you need to do this from linux | 00:46 |
| Kezryk | I am totally green on linux | 00:46 |
| BarkingFish | once it's installed, you can do this even if you cannot login to kubuntu's desktop | 00:47 |
| BarkingFish | Kezryk: I guessed, since you said you were an mswindows user, which is why I'm teaching you :) | 00:47 |
| Kezryk | lol | 00:47 |
| BarkingFish | I'm ex-windows user too, left at Windows XP and came onto linux, never went back. | 00:48 |
| Kezryk | I like the looks of Kubuntu so far as i have seen it. but dont know how to do a darn thing | 00:49 |
| BarkingFish | So if once you've installed kubuntu, you follow the instructions I just gave you, see if you can login on a terminal. If not, you need to come back to us :) | 00:49 |
| BarkingFish | But stay here for now, in case you have any other questions. We don't bite. (much) :) | 00:50 |
| Kezryk | ok, thx | 00:50 |
| BarkingFish | if you can't login, incidentally, you need to come back to the GUI (the graphic bit) - press CTRL, ALT and F7 or F8 to do that. | 00:51 |
| BarkingFish | That's why I tell people to wait until I've explained it all to them, because if they just jump in and go straight to the terminal, a lot of them don't know how to get back :D | 00:51 |
| Kezryk | Makes sense | 00:53 |
| Kezryk | someone told me earlier to do the CTRL,ALT,F1. but nothing happened and i left too soon i guess | 00:53 |
| ScottyK | does Kubuntu require an extra package to play movie DVD's? Dragon Player, VLC and bangrang will not play a DVD. Thanks | 00:59 |
| James147 | ScottyK: install kubuntu-restriced-extras | 01:00 |
| ScottyK | James - Thanks.. | 01:01 |
| ScottyK | Does the system require a reboot to get this to work? | 01:04 |
| Kezryk | Ok BarkingFish, i know now why i couldnt login. | 01:19 |
| Kezryk | is there something like automatic update for kubuntu?? | 01:24 |
| popitnow | yes but you have to configurate an internet acces first....it's called package manager | 01:25 |
| popitnow | the default one is "muon package manager" | 01:25 |
| geri | hi how can i see the boot menue in kubuntu? | 01:25 |
| geri | shift? | 01:25 |
| popitnow | do you mean GRUB ? | 01:26 |
| geri | yeah before booting the kernel | 01:26 |
| geri | i want to choose the kernel | 01:26 |
| James147 | geri: shift should show the menu in grub2 | 01:27 |
| geri | i have grub1 | 01:27 |
| geri | i think :D | 01:27 |
| geri | shift didnt work | 01:27 |
| James147 | geri: what version of kubuntu are toy on (kubuntu hasent use grub1 in along time) | 01:27 |
| geri | i have ubuntu :D | 01:27 |
| geri | 10.10 | 01:27 |
| geri | shoudl iset this? http://openpaste.org/27300254 | 01:28 |
| James147 | then you should have grub2 ^^ you can force grub to always show the menu by editing /etc/default/grub and running "sudo update-grub" (or was it "grub-update"...) | 01:29 |
| geri | my grub.cfg: http://openpaste.org/76Bc943e | 01:29 |
| geri | James147, what should i change there? | 01:31 |
| geri | hidden timeout is 0 | 01:31 |
| James147 | geri: you should edit /etc/default/grub | 01:32 |
| geri | i opend it | 01:32 |
| geri | enable grub_gfx_mode? | 01:32 |
| James147 | geri: comment out "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=5" and "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true" then run update-grub | 01:33 |
| geri | update? | 01:33 |
| geri | otherwize its not effective? | 01:34 |
| geri | hidden_timeout is 0 here | 01:36 |
| Kezryk | What is the terminal command to initiate an update? | 02:49 |
| DarthFrog | Kezryk: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" all on one line. | 02:58 |
| hellslinger | how do I tell upowerd to log verbosely? | 03:33 |
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| Kezryk | any reason i cant type in terminal but i can everywhere else | 04:21 |
| Kezryk | Err better yet i cant type the password in terminal mode | 04:21 |
| Kezryk | nvm | 04:23 |
| geri | James147, why is a run update-grub necessary? | 04:27 |
| Gerald | how can i see the boot menue in ubuntu? i already comment out "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=5" and "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true" .... is that all? | 04:45 |
| reukku | is it safe to install kernel 3.2.1? | 04:48 |
| reukku | or 3.1.10? | 04:50 |
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| muh2000 | hi | 05:30 |
| muh2000 | i installed kubuntu-ppa for kde4.7.4 | 05:30 |
| muh2000 | upgraded..... | 05:31 |
| muh2000 | but the apps are still at 4.7.3 ?!?!? wtf?!? | 05:31 |
| Gerald | how can i see the boot menue in ubuntu? i already comment out "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=5" and "#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true" .... is that all? | 05:41 |
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| muh2000 | i installed kubuntu-ppa for kde4.7.4 but kmail2 is still 4.7.3 ?!? | 06:04 |
| dasKreech | KDE 4.8! | 06:05 |
| muh2000 | ?!? | 06:06 |
| muh2000 | dasKreech: what are you trying to tell me? | 06:07 |
| dasKreech | Try the KDE 4.8 PPA? | 06:11 |
| muh2000 | dasKreech: isnt it even more beta? | 06:12 |
| dasKreech | Kinda RC but .... | 06:12 |
| muh2000 | hm | 06:12 |
| dasKreech | It's coming out in 5 days | 06:13 |
| muh2000 | and where is the 4.8ppa? | 06:13 |
| dasKreech | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.7.97 | 06:13 |
| muh2000 | thnx | 06:13 |
| muh2000 | hm | 06:15 |
| muh2000 | add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta && apt-get dist-upgrade and it says nothing to upgrade? | 06:15 |
| muh2000 | wait i fogot "apt-get update" | 06:17 |
| muh2000 | now it is updating. | 06:17 |
| muh2000 | by doing this all the future updates will be rc/beta unless i remove that ppa again? | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | muh2000: if rc/betas are newer than stable release, yes | 06:19 |
| muh2000 | Tm_T: and when there is a stable release it will upgrade to the stable release? | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | yes | 06:20 |
| muh2000 | :) | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | apt-get uses the newest available if possible, repositories just enables them as sources | 06:20 |
| muh2000 | thnx | 06:20 |
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| JabberwockyA19 | I'm stuggling to 'add more sensors to my plasmoid temperature monitor widget' | 08:11 |
| JabberwockyA19 | lm-sensors shows cpu (per core) and gpu, where the widget only shows my gpu | 08:12 |
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| GarGarOzz | chanserv irc.freenode.net | 10:46 |
| martell | hi | 10:51 |
| martell | where do i find file associations in oneiric ocelot ? | 10:51 |
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| freedvd | hello, which dvd player is best suited to read interactive DVD's on kubuntu? | 11:59 |
| freedvd | i added the package sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc but now sudo apt-get update fails | 12:11 |
| freedvd | how can i rmeove it? | 12:11 |
| jussi | !info ppa-purge | 12:19 |
| ubottu | ppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr56 (oneiric), package size 4 kB, installed size 56 kB | 12:19 |
| jussi | freedvd: ^^ | 12:19 |
| freedvd | thanks | 12:20 |
| datruth_ | I am having an issue resuming my computer from sleep mode in 11.10 on as asus g74s anyone have this issue? | 12:51 |
| seshagiri_ | Hey could some one help me out of the problem while installing man-db. I have pasted the error report here -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/537758/ | 13:01 |
| datruth_ | I am having an issue resuming my computer from sleep mode in 11.10 on as asus g74s anyone have this issue? | 13:03 |
| seshagiri_ | Well thanks i fixed it myself! | 13:05 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:46 |
| gnathan | hi, I'm trying to upgrade to oneiric but having some problems, wonder if anybody could help | 14:42 |
| gnathan | the upgrade process seems to be obscured by ubuntu | 14:42 |
| gnathan | I'm not sure why, maybe at some point when I installed gnome or something | 14:42 |
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| BluesKaj | gnathan, describe "obscured" , not sure what you mean | 14:52 |
| Gerald | when is it necessary to call blacklist before i do modprobe? | 14:53 |
| ShishKabab | I'm trying to install Kubuntu 11.10 on my laptop. The live CD does detect my wireless network card (it shows up in iwconfig as wlan0), but somehow I can't scan for or connect to networks in the Network Manager. Also, 'iwlist wlan0 scan' returns an error. Is there anything I can do about it before installing or should I install on a wire and solve the problem later (maybe by downloading some extra drivers)? | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | Gerald, blacklist if needed just before you modprobe the module you want to use , then reboot if necessary | 14:57 |
| BluesKaj | ShishKabab, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up , then, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid , then try to connect . | 14:59 |
| gnathan | BluesKaj: thanks, erm, I'm not exactly sure either, but when I try the various things that should supposedly lead to a KDE upgrade option, I either get nothing or an option to upgrade Ubuntu | 15:01 |
| gnathan | and when I do cat /etc/issue I get "Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS" | 15:01 |
| gnathan | when in fact, the only OS I have "officially" installed is kub | 15:02 |
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| gnathan | for example, if I try "sudo update-manager -d" the upgrade option that is presented to me is "new Ubuntu release '12.04' is available" | 15:04 |
| ShishKabab | BluesKaj: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up says 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory' | 15:04 |
| gnathan | and if I do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it just says, nothing to install | 15:04 |
| BluesKaj | gnathan, did you remove ubuntu-desktop previous to the upgrade then , update and ugrade with apt , then run sudo do-release-upgrade | 15:04 |
| gnathan | (even with update) | 15:04 |
| gnathan | no, I didn't know to do that | 15:05 |
| gnathan | I can try it | 15:05 |
| gnathan | ok I tried with apt and got "Package ubuntu-desktop is not installed, so not removed" | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | the upgrade OS command is sudo do-release-upgrade , the dist-upgrade just upgrades the desktop and packages with the present OS | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | gnathan, ^ | 15:06 |
| gnathan | I just tried do-release-upgrade, again, it did nothing | 15:06 |
| gnathan | Checking for a new ubuntu release | 15:06 |
| gnathan | No new release found | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | lsb_release -a | 15:07 |
| tayfun | does anyone know how to disable touchpad while typing ? | 15:08 |
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| gnathan | LSB Version: core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch | 15:08 |
| Peace- | tayfun: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/ubuntu-automatically-disable-touchpad.html | 15:08 |
| gnathan | Distributor ID: Ubuntu | 15:08 |
| gnathan | Description: Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS | 15:08 |
| gnathan | Release: 10.04 | 15:08 |
| gnathan | Codename: lucid | 15:08 |
| FloodBotK3 | gnathan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | ShishKabab, wlan0=dhcp , then , sudo dhclient wlan0 | 15:09 |
| BluesKaj | !LTS | gnathan | 15:09 |
| ubottu | gnathan: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) | 15:09 |
| gnathan | Blues: yes, but I don't remember ever installing ubuntu specifically | 15:10 |
| tayfun | Peace: thank you a lot ! | 15:10 |
| gnathan | I have no idea why it's saying that. I run KDE, and as far as I know kubuntu. | 15:10 |
| Peace- | tayfun: well thank google i jut googled your question | 15:11 |
| RocknRolla | lucid support everything | 15:11 |
| gnathan | it's just that I'd rather not do a fresh install if there's something simple I can do to get the automatic upgrade option back | 15:11 |
| tayfun | Peace : i actually google and tried them but could not worked yet | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | gnathan, gnathan you can't upgrade to oneiric directly , you need to do a clean install , jumping OS releases can be done but you have to go to 10.10 , then 11.04 . then 11.10...better to just back up your data and download the iso | 15:12 |
| Peace- | tayfun: webup8 is a good webiste it should work | 15:13 |
| Peace- | tayfun: good luck | 15:13 |
| gnathan | Blues: ok, I'll do that. I have no idea what happened here, but thanks for the help :) | 15:13 |
| ShishKabab | BluesKaj: I see 'RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory' and the process keeps running. I still get the same errors for ifconfig and iwlist. | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | ShishKabab, what does iwconfig tell you | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | ShishKabab, also what wifi chip , you may need to load the module/driver | 15:15 |
| ts2 | gnathan: fyi, Kubuntu is Ubuntu, what most people call "Ubuntu" is really Ubuntu with Gnome/Unity. same project, different UIs. If you want to upgrade to Oneiric you must upgrade to Maverick, then Natty, then Oneiric. Or you can wait a couple of months for the next LTS release (Precise) and you'll be offered an upgrade then | 15:16 |
| ShishKabab | BluesKaj: It's a BCM43xx chip. I tried modbrobe bcm<tab>, and that shows bcm203x, bcm3510, bcm5974, bcma and bcm_wimax. | 15:18 |
| ShishKabab | BluesKaj: And iwlist tells me a lot, what are you interested in? Is ESSID:off/any and Mode:Managed interesting? | 15:20 |
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| BluesKaj | ShishKabab, pastebin the iwconfig pls | 15:24 |
| ShishKabab | BluesKaj: I don't have internet on the laptop, so I can't paste it :(. I think I better plug it into a wired connection. From https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx it looks like I'll need internet anyway. | 15:26 |
| ShishKabab | BluesKaj: I have to go to another room now, but thanks for your help! | 15:30 |
| gnathan | ts2: thanks, yes, I was aware of that: but I still thought that the automatic kubuntu upgrade would be branded as "kubuntu", rather than offering anupgrade to "ubuntu"? | 15:34 |
| gnathan | because, for instance, I dont' really want unity | 15:34 |
| ts2 | it won't give you unity, it _upgrades_ what you have | 15:35 |
| gnathan | oh ok, so even though it says "ubuntu", it'll still leave me with kde? | 15:36 |
| ts2 | I understand it's not that obvious, but Ubuntu is the OS name, Kubuntu is the "flavour" | 15:36 |
| ts2 | kind of like how Windows does Home, Professional, whatever. Same OS, but different defaults etc | 15:36 |
| ts2 | (except that Ubuntu flavours aren't chopped up and sold for outrageous prices) | 15:37 |
| gnathan | ah, thanks I think your prompt about upgrading first to maverick just led me to discover the problem | 15:39 |
| gnathan | I didn't understand that the LTS version would only upgrade to the next LTS release | 15:40 |
| ts2 | you can change it, it's just by default | 15:40 |
| gnathan | yeah, doing that that now | 15:40 |
| ts2 | most LTS installs want to stick to LTS | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | gnathan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades , this also applies to kubuntu | 15:42 |
| gnathan | ah, great, I now have the upgrade option in kpackagekit | 15:42 |
| gnathan | thanks both for the help :D | 15:43 |
| BluesKaj | yeahh , I forgot what the command is to change from a LTS to the next regular release | 15:45 |
| gnathan | maybe there's a command, I edited /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades as suggested here http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-kubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-to-10.10-maverick-meerkat | 15:46 |
| James147 | gnathan: that sounds about right, though kpackagekit (and presumably moun) could also edit that setting | 15:47 |
| * ts2 coughs and points James147 and gnathan to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades/Kubuntu | 15:49 | |
| James147 | ts2: yup, thats the gui way, the cli way is to edit the above mention file | 15:50 |
| * BluesKaj always upgrades to the next releas , be it LTS or just a regular release | 15:51 | |
| BluesKaj | running 12.04 alpha here | 15:52 |
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| Gerald | BluesKaj, what happens if i dont do modprobe before? | 17:02 |
| Gerald | i mean blacklist... | 17:02 |
| fkm | Hi there. I don't know, if this is the right place to ask. If not, please point me to the right channel. I have made an xorg update yesterday and since then I cannot start the desktop effects because they became to slow. Here's the update log: http://pastebin.com/9V6CTqmB | 17:15 |
| Tm_T | fkm: ubuntu version? | 17:16 |
| Tm_T | fkm: 11.10 Oneiric? | 17:17 |
| fkm | Ubuntu 11.10 | 17:17 |
| fkm | Linux medusa 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:45:26 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux | 17:17 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | can kwallet be deleted with out killing my wifi? | 17:17 |
| martell | yes, though you might have to retype your password | 17:19 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | it makes me type password every time i login is that normal? | 17:19 |
| James147 | mydogsnameisrudy: you can also configure networkmanager to store passwords in a plain text file | 17:19 |
| BluesKaj | Gerald, blackilst first then modprobe | 17:20 |
| James147 | mydogsnameisrudy: it is if you have somehting that requires a password after login (such as wifi) | 17:20 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | ok im going to google some then thx | 17:21 |
| James147 | mydogsnameisrudy: if you dont want to type it in then you basically have two option, tell networkmanager to store passwords in plane text (bypassing kwallet) or create a passwordless wallet (this basically stores all passwords unencrypted and isnt recomended) | 17:22 |
| kurumin | ........... | 17:22 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | ok coming from gnome to kde im a bit confused | 17:23 |
| kurumin | ?? | 17:23 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | why it needs this | 17:23 |
| * James147 also notes that kdes password sotage system is going to change in the next release or 2 of kde ^^ so things might change then) | 17:23 | |
| kurumin | alguem? | 17:23 |
| mydogsnameisrudy | 12.04? | 17:23 |
| James147 | mydogsnameisrudy: its because kwallet encrpyts passwords with a master password, and thus requires it to access the passwords again... it also dose not store this password anywhere (doing so voids having it in the first palce) | 17:24 |
| * BluesKaj disables the kwalletmanager , it's mostly a pita for home users | 17:24 | |
| mydogsnameisrudy | ok hmmm might let it go for now then see how it goes | 17:24 |
| James147 | mydogsnameisrudy: However, what gnome dose that kde dose not (yet! hopefully) iss use the login password to attempt to unlock the wallet ... which is why it always asks you | 17:25 |
| Peace- | James147: do you know something about vlc and system wide settings for it? | 17:27 |
| Peace- | James147: this sicker doesn't want read my config file form /etc/vlc/vlcrc | 17:27 |
| James147 | Peace-: tend not to use vlc... though dose it store system wide settings like other apps? | 17:27 |
| Peace- | James147: nah is not kde app so... | 17:28 |
| James147 | (or am I just to use to kde apps doing this) LD | 17:28 |
| James147 | Peace-: there is always the hack of placing its config in /etc/skele, will basically set it up for new users :) | 17:29 |
| Peace- | James147: mmm but it didnt worked for me | 17:32 |
| Peace- | even in skel | 17:32 |
| James147 | Peace-: skel only gets copied when creating a new user... | 17:33 |
| James147 | so wouldnt affect existing users unfortinutly | 17:33 |
| Peace- | James147: dah | 17:35 |
| Peace- | James147: nice to know | 17:35 |
| Peace- | James147: well to re-read ... i forget it | 17:35 |
| Peace- | James147: :D ty | 17:35 |
| James147 | Peace-: or the other way, place a symlink in /etc/skel to the config :) | 17:35 |
| James147 | (as well as all users) | 17:35 |
| Peace- | James147: arch user right ? | 17:36 |
| James147 | yeah | 17:36 |
| Peace- | James147: i hated it intel bug :D | 17:37 |
| James147 | intel bug? | 17:37 |
| Peace- | i dunno there was a bug and i got a well black screen xd | 17:37 |
| Peace- | i edited the kernel and it started | 17:37 |
| James147 | not seen that ever :S | 17:38 |
| Peace- | James147: i guess it's for some card only | 17:38 |
| hynzo | hi everybody | 17:38 |
| hynzo | I'm new here | 17:38 |
| James147 | Welcome hynzo | 17:38 |
| Peace- | hi | 17:38 |
| hynzo | :) | 17:39 |
| hynzo | how are you ? | 17:39 |
| James147 | hynzo: you might want to join #kubuntu-offtopic for general chat, this channel is dedicated to kubuntu support issues | 17:39 |
| hynzo | so is this a developpers community | 17:40 |
| James147 | hynzo: no, this is a users community, #kubuntu-devel for developers talk :) | 17:40 |
| hynzo | I want to join kubuntu develeppers team, I'm a Qt learner | 17:41 |
| James147 | hynzo: then you will want to join #kubutu-devel channel :) also see http://www.kubuntu.org/community/contribute | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | hynzo, then type /join #kubuntu-devel or click on the link James147 provided | 17:42 |
| hynzo | ok tank you | 17:43 |
| James147 | hynzo: or if you want to develop for kde specifically (which will indrectly help kubuntu) join #kde and #kde-devel | 17:43 |
| hynzo | I didn't find any one there :) | 17:45 |
| James147 | hynzo: people are more likly to respond to a qustion then general chat | 17:47 |
| James147 | hynzo: also, be patience, people idlely watch these channels and can take a while to respond :) | 17:50 |
| BluesKaj | hynzo, I saw you join #kde , but you didn't ask a question | 17:51 |
| kurumin | eae | 18:07 |
| kurumin | alguem aew fala portugues???????? | 18:07 |
| Unit193 | !pt | kurumin | 18:09 |
| ubottu | kurumin: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. | 18:09 |
| kurumin | lol | 18:09 |
| Gerald | BluesKaj, blacklist command not found | 18:38 |
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| smjms | is anyone else's GTK programs being rendered with a black background? :( | 18:58 |
| smjms | oh, right I should be in #kubuntu+1 | 18:59 |
| Unit193 | smjms: Last I knew there was only #ubuntu+1 | 18:59 |
| BluesKaj | !blacklist | Gerald | 19:00 |
| ubottu | Gerald: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u » | 19:00 |
| Gerald | it will not load the module if i start linux? | 19:00 |
| Gerald | i overloading the module using dkms... | 19:01 |
| BluesKaj | Gerald, the proper file is , /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf , use root permissions if intend to add a module , add the module to the file then reboot , you can also modprobe the correct module before reboot ing | 19:04 |
| * James147 thourgh blacklist.conf was depracated and you should just use modprob.conf ^^ | 19:05 | |
| BluesKaj | James147, it still works in 12.04 | 19:05 |
| * BluesKaj doesn't see an modprobe.conf file , doesn't exist | 19:12 | |
| James147 | BluesKaj: :) think i was getting my distos confused again... | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | James147, ok | 19:13 |
| James147 | BluesKaj: but your riht, blacklist.conf on kubuntu seems to be the way | 19:13 |
| BluesKaj | the /etc/modprobe.d file has the dkms.conf , alsa-base.conf and several others | 19:15 |
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| Engonyr | How do I switch to Kubuntu and remove almost all the default GNOME applications? | 19:40 |
| === Engonyr is now known as robbit10 | ||
| Unit193 | !purekde | robbit10 | 19:40 |
| ubottu | robbit10: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde » | 19:40 |
| robbit10 | Unit193: Thanks :) | 19:41 |
| Unit193 | 'welcome | 19:41 |
| _jam | the latest security update to 11.10 is giving me a dependency conflict, and when I try to run with --full-resolver, it basically wants to remove everything | 19:57 |
| _jam | anyone else experiencing this? | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj | _jam, to remove dependency conflicts , sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s) , you may have to run this command several times to remove the depends , they''ll be listed in the terminal , or you can find them in the /var/log file as well | 20:01 |
| _jam | this removes the packages, does it not? | 20:02 |
| _jam | i'm rather reluctant to do that, given the large number of packages it wants to remove | 20:03 |
| BluesKaj | most of kde/kubuntu-desktop I bet , ...what's the first conflict dependency package | 20:04 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 20:04 |
| _jam | umm, hrm. ok sorry. apparently the update last night resolved this as it no longer wants to remove packages | 20:06 |
| _jam | didn't notice that there was another update | 20:06 |
| * BluesKaj nods | 20:06 | |
| thomas__ | <:q | 20:09 |
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| sergej_supo | hi | 20:33 |
| robbit10 | I just switched over to Kubuntu, but i'm missing the utility that installs propietary drivers.. I have the one from Ubuntu, but it's not having root permissions. I executed apt-get autoremove after deinstalling all Ubuntu packages, so I think that might've messed up some things.. | 20:33 |
| joeuser2ooo | hi | 20:36 |
| robbit10 | the authentication part of KDE is broken.. what package should I install? kdesu? | 20:42 |
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| george | hi all | 21:10 |
| george | today muon reports that there is about 202 packages to install / update of about 1gb. is this correct or did my updater break somewhere | 21:12 |
| george | hi anybody able to please assist me? | 21:22 |
| BluesKaj | george, how long since you updated/upgraded ? | 21:24 |
| george | hi BluesKaj I updated yesterday | 21:25 |
| george | there are four updates that look like kernel update and a libc-dev. but both synaptic and muon want to install 202 other packages that looks like stuff I would't / didn't use ever e.g. a lot texlive stuff and eastern fonts etc | 21:26 |
| BluesKaj | george, try sudo apt-get update , see what it lists | 21:27 |
| BluesKaj | I guess tou should check repos you have enabled as well | 21:28 |
| BluesKaj | you | 21:28 |
| george | sudo apt-get update gives this error: > | 21:28 |
| george | oops, a gpg error | 21:29 |
| george | GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net oneiric Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A | 21:29 |
| BluesKaj | george, that's a ppa you've added for an application , open /etc/apt/sources.list.d and remove it | 21:31 |
| jonte_ | Hello! Is it possible to run the Kubuntu desktop from a remote machine? I don't want to takeover the console, but want to run on a separate X11 display over ssh. I have X11 fowarding working. | 21:34 |
| James147 | jonte_: look at tightvnc | 21:35 |
| jonte_ | Is it more efficient than X11 over ssh? | 21:37 |
| James147 | jonte_: much, its designed for over the network | 21:41 |
| James147 | xforwarding isnt so much | 21:41 |
| shadeslayer | jonte_: I believe X was designed to be run over the network | 21:47 |
| shadeslayer | so X + ssh is probably the best you can get | 21:48 |
| James147 | shadeslayer: dosnt run very fast ^^ | 21:49 |
| shadeslayer | James147: well, if you use -c and -Y ... maybe then? | 21:50 |
| James147 | shadeslayer: espically over a slower connection, where as vnc tends to work faster | 21:50 |
| jonte_ | I had a quick look at tightvnc webpage. They (only?) talk about taking over the console, that is not what I want. Like I can ssh into a box and not disturb other users I would like to do the same with GUI. | 21:50 |
| shadeslayer | I've tried vnc over the internet, it was utter crap | 21:50 |
| Dreadtower | What is the keyboard shrotcut of for the application launcher please (can't find where this is configured | 21:51 |
| jonte_ | I haven't yet found a vnc or rrdp client on Linux that could compete in responsivenes and speed with Win - Win remote desktop. | 21:51 |
| jonte_ | supposedly bitmaps aren't very fast on X. On the other hand networks are reasonably fast compared to local networks 20 years ago... | 21:53 |
| gomiboy | jonte_: you need it for local network or over the internet? | 21:54 |
| jonte_ | over the Internet, the slowest pipe is ~4Mbit/s. | 21:55 |
| jonte_ | It just seems wrong to first "translate" X to VNC and then tunnel that through ssh. On the other hand that is a bit of the *nix way of doing things. The right tool for the right job. | 21:57 |
| gomiboy | jonte_: X is ok on local networks, you'll hardly notice (we had 100 ethernet "20 years ago" :P ) but for the internet where you need speed and security... have a look at freenx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX don't know if it's still developped though... | 22:06 |
| phoenix_firebrd | any security expert here? | 22:07 |
| jonte_ | gomiboy: FreeNX sounds ok, it seems to take care of the security bit. But will it let me have a new session? I.e. wife can sit at home on facebook and I get my own login? | 22:13 |
| gomiboy | jonte_: yes, it was developped with thinclients in mind, you could have 20sh concurrent users on a modern desktop pc :) | 22:15 |
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| Dreadtower | Does anyone know which i8s the best version control system to use with KDevelop for a console C++ application: I have a choice of subversion or CVS? | 22:22 |
| James147 | Dreadtower: I would recomend using git :) | 22:22 |
| * gomiboy is not a developper but cvs is ooold :) | 22:23 | |
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| RiotingPacifist_ | can somebody tell me where /lib64 should point on 64bit 11.10 installs is it /lib? | 22:46 |
| gomiboy | RiotingPacifist_: not a link here, inside i have a single link: ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-2.13.so | 22:49 |
| darksmoke | Hi | 22:50 |
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| RiotingPacifist_ | thanks gomiboy | 22:51 |
| gomiboy | yw :) | 22:51 |
| DarkSmoke | can someone tell me how to boot kubuntu in verbose mode? | 22:51 |
| DarkSmoke | i mean i used to do it but i find the boot file diferent from last time i used linux | 22:52 |
| DarkSmoke | ? | 22:53 |
| gomiboy | DarkSmoke: edit /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" then sudo update-grub | 22:54 |
| DarkSmoke | Is there a verbose flag? | 22:54 |
| DarkSmoke | Like putting -v or verbose in that line or it's not used? | 22:54 |
| maxhr | Hello, I had kubuntu installed, then installed Mandriva, which didn't make a boot menu option for Kubuntu, so I tried adding it manually, but when it loads, keyboard and mouse don't work, any fix for this? | 22:55 |
| maxhr | Some setting is wrong or missing in the boot manager setup, any ideas? | 22:58 |
| gomiboy | maxhr: pastebin your grub config from mandriva | 23:02 |
| maxhr | gomiboy: ok, just a moment | 23:05 |
| maxhr | gomiboy: I don't think there is a grub config, as mandriva uses grub legacy instead of grub2, or maybe I don't know where to find it... | 23:15 |
| gomiboy | maxhr: usual places are /boot/grub or /etc/grub or try in console: locate grub | 23:18 |
| almoxarife | gomiboy: also in /etc/default/grub | 23:21 |
| almoxarife | what is up with all the grub questions? has a kernel update effected grub? | 23:22 |
| gomiboy | no, he installed mandriva, which is racist and didn't put an entry for his other kubuntu installation | 23:24 |
| almoxarife | racist? | 23:24 |
| almoxarife | mandriva is a racist distro, who would of thought | 23:25 |
| maxhr | gomiboy: I am in /boot/grub , don't see a config file, what should it be caused | 23:25 |
| maxhr | called | 23:25 |
| almoxarife | maxhr: the config file should be /etc/default/grub, see it? | 23:26 |
| maxhr | almoxarife: that folder is empty | 23:31 |
| gomiboy | maxhr: sorry, i have to go, try in console: locate grub.conf or locate grub.cfg | 23:31 |
| almoxarife | maxhr: i asssumed you had a ubuntu/kubuntu distro with grub2 | 23:33 |
| maxhr | almoxarife: yes | 23:35 |
| almoxarife | maxhr: yes? | 23:35 |
| maxhr | I had kubuntu with grub2 | 23:36 |
| almoxarife | maxhr: had or have? | 23:36 |
| maxhr | then installed mandriva, which has grub | 23:36 |
| maxhr | so kubuntu is still there on the first partition | 23:36 |
| almoxarife | maxhr: no idea where grub is in mandriva | 23:36 |
| maxhr | but mandriva's bootloader is what I see when it boots up | 23:36 |
| maxhr | so I can still get kubuntu to boot up, but the mouse and keyboard don't work | 23:38 |
| maxhr | almoxarife: is there a way to get kubuntu to take back over the booting? | 23:43 |
| almoxarife | maxhr: which is first on the drive? | 23:43 |
| maxhr | kubuntu | 23:43 |
| almoxarife | maxhr: i would think yes then, but you would need to re-run update-grub from kubuntu and i assume kubuntu has grub2 and not the legacy, i have assume alot here, be careful | 23:45 |
| James147 | maxhr: just reinstall grub in kubuntu "sudo grub-install --recheck --no-floppy /dev/sdX && update-grub" | 23:46 |
| maxhr | Yeah, grub2... and I think I can get kubuntu to boot properly | 23:46 |
| almoxarife | James147: some people might just put an 'x', might explain that | 23:47 |
| James147 | where X the letter of the drive you want to install it to, normall a | 23:47 |
| maxhr | ahh, ok, thx | 23:48 |
| maxhr | that makes more sense | 23:49 |
| maxhr | I will try rebooting and check back | 23:49 |
| Kurdistan | hi is there any minimalistic kubuntu livecd? | 23:59 |
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