[15:49] <linde> hi.. I'm new around here so sorry if asking about something completely obvious.. anyway, how should "old software" be treated? It's not really a bug, but can be annoying
[15:50] <dlentz> linde, how old?
[15:50] <dlentz> If it;s Ubuntu 9.10 or earlier there's an "EOL" repsonse
[15:50] <linde> I'm thinking about octave, natty and oneiric have 3.2.4, that's also listed for precise pangolin
[15:51] <dlentz> bug link?
[15:51] <linde> version 3.4 of octave was released in february 2011 and I was hoping it should be available without fixing oneself
[15:52] <linde> (got my info from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/octave3.2 and https://www.gnu.org/software/octave/news.html )
[15:54] <dlentz> if it's a bug fixed upstream, try finding a ppa
[15:54] <dlentz> what version of ubuntu are you (or other person) running?
[15:54] <linde> I'm running 11.10 (oneiric)
[15:56] <dlentz> i don't see it in precise or sid, so you'd have to compile it yourself
[15:57] <linde> Yes, that's the path I've taken so far, but I'm thinking that ubuntu should ship something newer then 3.2
[15:59] <linde> when you refer to sid, does that imply, if debian doesn't have it, ubuntu won't have it?
[16:00] <dlentz> no, but it helps
[16:00] <dlentz> actually, 3.4's in experimental right now
[16:00] <dlentz> (debian experimental)
[16:01] <dlentz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/octave3.2/+bug/842479
[16:01] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 842479 in octave3.2 (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Please upgrade to Octave 3.4.2 (affects: 12) (heat: 42)" [Unknown,Fix released]
[16:02] <linde> Thanks, my google-fu must have been weak since I didn't find that one
[16:03] <dlentz> i just searched ubuntu bugs for octave (newest first)
[18:04] <bil21al> some body please triage  this one and set  its imp to medium
[18:04] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/917296
[18:04] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 917296 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "WLM contacts do not appear in contact list (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:20] <bil21al> ping
[19:09] <bil21al> kamusin:
[19:10] <bil21al> ?
[19:11] <dlentz> gello bil21al
[19:11] <bil21al> dlentz: yes
[19:59] <bil21al> om26er: is it a  unity bug ? have a look
[19:59] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/760229
[19:59] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 760229 in telepathy-sofiasip (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Incoming call window takes focus (affects: 1) (heat: 1)" [Undecided,New]
[19:59] <bil21al> or some other pakage ?