| Silverlion | good morning TGIF! | 05:57 |
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| Silverlion | re | 06:38 |
| YoBoY | bonjour | 06:47 |
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| Silverlion | YoBoY : good morning. excuse my bad behaviour | 06:51 |
| YoBoY | what are you talking about ? :) | 06:52 |
| Silverlion | YoBoY : letting you wait for five minutes before you get a response | 06:54 |
| YoBoY | it's IRC, I never expect an answer to a "good morning" :) | 06:56 |
| YoBoY | and you seem to be on a windows machine, so you can't be fast :D | 06:57 |
| Silverlion | YoBoY : how you know? | 06:58 |
| YoBoY | ⟽ Silverlion est parti (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) | 06:58 |
| YoBoY | miranda-im is a windows only im client | 06:58 |
| Silverlion | well could be on wine, or not? | 07:00 |
| YoBoY | yes could be... but who the hell can use an multi protocol windows im client on a linux system who have so many good clients for that :D | 07:00 |
| Silverlion | YoBoY : i have a windows past | 07:05 |
| Silverlion | :D | 07:05 |
| YoBoY | I have a windows too on a virtual machine for only one program :] | 07:08 |
| Silverlion | YoBoY : :D sorry i am working from home office now | 07:24 |
| Silverlion | answers can take a while | 07:24 |
| bkerensa | :) | 07:30 |
| bkerensa | I'm kind of wondering what the Ubuntu Leadership Team is doing these days? :) | 07:31 |
| bkerensa | its been quiet for awhile | 07:31 |
| * philipballew wonders the same as bkerensa | 07:32 | |
| === s-lion is now known as Silverlion | ||
| bkerensa | I think akgraner passed the manual to someone in Canada who was going to have a look but thats the last I heard :D | 07:35 |
| bkerensa | she has been busy lately though =o | 07:35 |
| Silverlion | mornin' bkerensa | 07:36 |
| bkerensa | Good Morning Silverlion :D | 07:36 |
| YoBoY | we are all leading other teams, and time is not missing for this one | 07:37 |
| YoBoY | -not | 07:37 |
| bkerensa | indeed | 07:37 |
| bkerensa | :) | 07:37 |
| bkerensa | we all get very busy | 07:37 |
| Silverlion | YoBoY : yeah ... they have elected me for TL now as well :D | 07:38 |
| YoBoY | it's always the case for leaders ^^ | 07:38 |
| bkerensa | Silverlion: For your LoCo? | 07:38 |
| bkerensa | :D | 07:38 |
| Silverlion | bkerensa : nope for Lubuntu-Comms | 07:38 |
| bkerensa | oh :) | 07:38 |
| bkerensa | Our LoCo doesn't yet have elections | 07:39 |
| Silverlion | bkerensa : well elections is nicely formulated ^^ they asked me and i had no chance to reject :D | 07:40 |
| bkerensa | lol | 07:40 |
| bkerensa | thats how I get most of my contributions in the community | 07:40 |
| bkerensa | people ask me | 07:40 |
| bkerensa | and my kindness or willingness prevents me from declining :P | 07:41 |
| head_victim | bkerensa: I used to be like that, then I started burning so I've stepped back into the core activites I enjoy so I don't burn out entirely :) | 07:41 |
| Silverlion | that is why i build my deputy-team around me ;) | 07:42 |
| bkerensa | head_victim: Yeah well luckily our LoCo has a Asst. Team Lead now | 07:43 |
| bkerensa | I think my LoCo work consumes the most time | 07:43 |
| head_victim | bkerensa: we only have a small handful of people that are active in the loco tbh and it's spread out over vast distances. | 07:43 |
| YoBoY | Silverlion: working with gillir ? :D | 07:43 |
| bkerensa | everyone always has questions :P sometimes I just have to get away from IRC otherwise the burn comes | 07:43 |
| Silverlion | YoBoY : why you ask | 07:44 |
| Silverlion | ? | 07:44 |
| YoBoY | it's a friend :) | 07:44 |
| head_victim | I sense a French connection ;) | 07:44 |
| YoBoY | sure ;) | 07:44 |
| bkerensa | head_victim: What loco are you with? | 07:44 |
| head_victim | Australian | 07:44 |
| head_victim | Ideally we'd like it split into states but realistically that would mean we'd have about one active member per state which isn't really maintainable. | 07:45 |
| head_victim | When we organise events we get 10 - 20 along (depending on the event) but the actual organisation and general running is handled by a small group. | 07:45 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 07:46 |
| YoBoY | head_victim: in france it's also a small group organising everything | 07:46 |
| bkerensa | Oregon and Washington have been trying for years to merge into a regional LoCo and at one point we were a regional LoCo but then a new council came in and said no more regional | 07:47 |
| bkerensa | ;p | 07:47 |
| bkerensa | so as a result Washington doesnt have much of anything going on and they just come down to do events with us | 07:47 |
| head_victim | bkerensa: ah that's a shame. People keep floating the idea of splitting our team up into states but they just don't understand, we have a small population and a large land mass. We have less people in our country than in a lot of US states. | 07:47 |
| head_victim | We're only around 20 million for the whole country last I checked. | 07:48 |
| bkerensa | yeah I think its unfortunate that sometimes it seems the council or powers that be do not realize the logistics of geography and variances in population | 07:48 |
| head_victim | Honestly, we have 2 maybe 3 of the 7 states that it might work for, the rest would disappear. So for me, keeping it as one for now is the only way. | 07:49 |
| YoBoY | our french point of view is : one loco to help every linux/ubuntu user group or other people organise events | 07:49 |
| bkerensa | Yeah :) | 07:49 |
| bkerensa | YoBoY: Have you had Ubuntu Cola? | 07:51 |
| bkerensa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Cola | 07:51 |
| YoBoY | some city have created ubuntu local team with our benediction and we are all working together. It's sometimes easier for users to identify to a smaller local group than a bigger country loco | 07:51 |
| * bkerensa is trying to find someone who knows where to get it | 07:51 | |
| YoBoY | bkerensa: yes :) | 07:51 |
| * bkerensa needs export | 07:52 | |
| bkerensa | lol | 07:52 |
| head_victim | YoBoY: yeah we have a couple of smaller groups that have 3 - 4 events a year together under the loco banner | 07:52 |
| YoBoY | some store sell it in Paris ^^" | 07:52 |
| bkerensa | :( | 07:52 |
| bkerensa | None in America | 07:52 |
| YoBoY | you can also buy it on internet I think | 07:52 |
| bkerensa | but they wont ship to U.S. | 07:53 |
| bkerensa | :( | 07:53 |
| bkerensa | Plus it would likely cost a fortune to ship | 07:53 |
| YoBoY | :] | 07:53 |
| bkerensa | It cost me so much to buy stuff from Canonical Store because they have heavy shipping from the UK and then U.S. Customs sits on items for a week | 07:54 |
| head_victim | Yeah I've made about 3 or 4 orders from the Canonical store. They're pretty pricey but then again, I see it as half support, half buying a product. | 07:54 |
| bkerensa | head_victim: I think if Ubuntu Foundation existed that it could do a good bit of funding for the cost of Ubuntu's Development | 07:57 |
| head_victim | bkerensa: you can already donate to the Ubuntu fund | 07:57 |
| head_victim | It's just not obvious. | 07:57 |
| head_victim | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved/donate | 07:57 |
| bkerensa | Yeah but this goes to Canonical which is a company not to the Community | 07:59 |
| head_victim | Yeah but Canonical does heavily support the community. Our loco has had multiple conference packs both as approved and unapproved teams. | 08:00 |
| * philipballew has 2 in his hotel room right now | 08:01 | |
| philipballew | SUCK ON THAT! | 08:01 |
| head_victim | philipballew: 2 what? | 08:01 |
| head_victim | bkerensa: http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntuau/ has some pics of our last event. | 08:01 |
| bkerensa | Yeah but in the end Canonical owns Ubuntu and its Trademark | 08:01 |
| philipballew | confrence packs | 08:01 |
| bkerensa | so they are giving you free conf kits to promote something they hope to make money on | 08:01 |
| bkerensa | :) | 08:01 |
| bkerensa | dont get me wrong I love Ubuntu and the Community | 08:02 |
| bkerensa | but its like Wordpress and Automattic | 08:02 |
| head_victim | The community is the only reason I stuck with Ubuntu to be honest. I started on Fedora and got jack of it REAL quick. | 08:02 |
| bkerensa | people didnt like contributing to Wordpress because Automaticc held the trademark and owned the product even though it was open source | 08:02 |
| head_victim | Now I now linux a little I much rather apt based distro's anyway so happy to stay where I am for now. | 08:02 |
| bkerensa | in the end Automattic made the right decision and formed a foundation (wordpress.org) and transferred all rights to the foundation | 08:03 |
| bkerensa | so there is no commercial interest controlling it | 08:03 |
| bkerensa | heh | 08:03 |
| bkerensa | Yeah Fedora is eh :) it is what it is | 08:03 |
| head_victim | Ah ok, I don't know lots about politics, I try to avoid them outside of work as there's already too much of it there ;) | 08:03 |
| head_victim | bkerensa: I think the problem with the foundation idea is that sabdfl put in a lot of startup. | 08:11 |
| head_victim | And probably still does to this day if the reports of it still not being a commercial success are correct. | 08:11 |
| bkerensa | head_victim: Yes that is true but at the same time how many hundreds of people contribute to Ubuntu for free every year? :) | 08:17 |
| head_victim | bkerensa: depends on what Mark is in it for, perhaps when he's made his capital back he might. No idea though, purely speculation ;) | 08:18 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 08:18 |
| bkerensa | I think we will see the path coming in 13.04 | 08:18 |
| bkerensa | I think Canonical is hoping/banking on Ubuntu being a success on TV's and Smartphones so they can get some enterprise support money there | 08:19 |
| head_victim | I'm pretty much the target audience for Ubuntu. I've got not IT training or experience and I've got to say, I don't mind Unity. | 08:19 |
| bkerensa | I dont mind Unity but I do use Classic on 12.04 | 08:19 |
| Silverlion | wb philipballew | 09:37 |
| philipballew | Silverlion, whats wb mean dude? | 09:37 |
| Silverlion | w(elcome)b(ack) | 09:37 |
| Silverlion | better late then never, right?4 | 09:38 |
| YoBoY | stupid question : abbreviations are not welcome on most of the french irc channels (mostly on the support channel), what's the rules of other teams about them ? | 09:59 |
| ashams | YoBoY, what abbreviations you mean? | 10:03 |
| YoBoY | like "wb" :) | 10:03 |
| ashams | heh, I can't live without such :) I think it's ok everywhere else | 10:05 |
| YoBoY | it is sometimes really hard to understand them | 10:06 |
| Silverlion | why dont we set up a dictionary for our community | 10:29 |
| Silverlion | so that those who cant live without can use them and others could translate? | 10:29 |
| YoBoY | well... each group develop their own abbreviations, for projects, for events, for fun. I think it's harder for a new comer to join a group if it's using too much abbreviations. In our french support case, with the "sms writing plague" it was decided to forbid them | 10:36 |
| head_victim | YoBoY: depends on context really. Most of the time announcing away and back are superfluous anyway. | 11:19 |
| YoBoY | head_victim: the wb is just an example, abbreviations can be harder | 11:26 |
| head_victim | YoBoY: I don't think it's a major drama in english speaking channels, it's possible it might get a bit different in other languages, I'm not really sure as I don't speak anything else. | 11:26 |
| YoBoY | :) | 11:27 |
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