[00:00] yep [00:00] #startmeeting [00:00] Meeting started Fri Jan 20 00:00:10 2012 UTC. The chair is greg-g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [00:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [00:00] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for . The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas [00:00] We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. [00:00] The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [00:00] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [00:00] During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [00:00] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) [00:00] Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... [00:01] kdub? Kevin? you here? [00:01] ... [00:01] nope [00:01] TiMiDo: ? ready? [00:01] Hello World! [00:01] yes [00:01] we are ready [00:01] ;P [00:01] #topic TiMiDo for membership === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: TiMiDo for membership [00:02] go for it, please introduce yourself, TiMiDo [00:02] hello there my name is Aaron Farias I been using Linux Since i was a little kid, Kid i mean teenager age, and now I been helping ubuntu to grow, in my lab, [00:02] and it has been growing, [00:03] * bkerensa coughs [00:03] and of course I'm helping in launchpad to translate Ubuntu Packages, and also checking the right translations. and make sure if it is a bug to make sure it's close down, [00:03] what lab are you referring to, TiMiDo ? [00:03] greg-g, college, lab [00:05] cool [00:05] Good going TiMiDo [00:05] yeah, and here it's my wiki page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AaronFarias [00:05] I see you do a lot with translations, and you live in Miami, have you done much with the Florida loco? [00:05] TiMiDo: do you have any further plans for doing things with the Flordia LoCo? (Either attending or hosting events yourself) [00:05] TiMiDo: you've done a great many translations! do you think you'll be more active in the Florida LoCo Team? [00:05] and my launchpad also, it's https://launchpad.net/~timido [00:05] hah, we all think alike :) [00:06] dinda, now I'm working, So On my free time, sure [00:07] but my main goal, and to improve, Ubuntu is helping people on reporting bugs also [00:07] with my Computer Science Class, [00:07] TiMiDo: I know ever loco needs help with event planning/coordination, hint hint ;) [00:07] any other questions from the board? [00:07] I been teaching them, either how to report, and how to check the database of the RCS bugs open, and close [00:07] BBB [00:07] sorry, kitten on keyboard [00:07] TiMiDo: cool :) [00:07] TiMiDo: great! [00:08] Pendulum; ^_^ [00:08] and also [00:08] checking the debian/rules [00:08] so there is no bugs later on with the translations files [00:08] #voters dinda Pendulum n0rman cyphermox [00:08] Current voters: Pendulum cyphermox dinda n0rman [00:08] #voters dinda Pendulum n0rman cyphermox greg-g [00:08] Current voters: Pendulum cyphermox dinda greg-g n0rman [00:09] #vote TiMiDo for membership [00:09] Please vote on: TiMiDo for membership [00:09] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [00:09] +1 [00:09] +1 received from greg-g [00:09] +1 [00:09] +1 received from dinda [00:09] +1 [00:09] +1 received from cyphermox [00:09] +1 [00:09] +1 received from Pendulum [00:09] +1 [00:09] +1 received from n0rman [00:09] #endvote [00:09] Voting ended on: TiMiDo for membership [00:09] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [00:09] Motion carried === vibhav_ is now known as vibhav [00:10] great, welcome aboard, TiMiDo ! [00:10] thank you greg-g [00:10] congrats TiMiDo :)and welcome [00:10] Well done TiMiDo [00:10] Congratulations TiMiDo [00:10] thank you a lot guy's :) [00:10] thanks TiMiDo [00:10] Congrats, TiMiDo! [00:10] * ashams Congrats TiMiDo [00:10] thanks vibhav good luck also ;) [00:10] TiMiDo: congrats! [00:10] caravena? Cristian? [00:10] thanks Pendulum [00:10] ashams: ready? [00:10] yes [00:11] #topic ashams for membership === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ashams for membership [00:11] great, please introduce yourself ashams [00:11] Hello, my Name is Ahmed Shams, Egyptian, Ubuntu Translator, Bug Triager and Community worker. [00:11] First, sorry for increasing you load, as I should have my meeting with EMEA instead of Americas RMB!. [00:11] ashams: what time is it for you?! [00:11] 2 am [00:11] :) [00:11] eek! [00:11] I started to contribute to Ubuntu since 2009, with translation, support and testing, then tried to get more involved by focusing on bug triage and support for Touchpad problems in Ubuntu. Since that, I take care of touchpad-related issues, besides finding and triaging papercuts. [00:11] Ghehe, 1 am here [00:11] is there a reason you choose to do it with us instead of EMEA? [00:12] yes, I was confused of time of emea date [00:12] I thought it was 10th of jan instead of 3rd [00:12] * greg-g nods [00:13] because I thought it would be delayed for vacation [00:13] In Community side, I'm serving as LoCo teams' ML moderator, keeper of the wiki-site and member of the current *step*-council. Outside the LoCo, I found my home in ~ubuntu-leadership(-dev) team and going with those good people to develop how things go in here. [00:13] You can find my page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AhmedShams [00:14] done [00:14] ashams: I applaud your enthusiasm for staying up unitl 2am for this meeting! [00:14] dinda, thanks :-) === vibhav_ is now known as vibhav [00:15] ashams: when do you think the Egyptian Loco team might be ready to try for 'official' status? [00:16] dinda, we were planning for this a couple of months ago [00:16] ashams; looks good. I'll take your contributions section as a "template" for my own contributions page [00:16] but we prefered to get better organization first [00:16] that's why we got a council [00:16] or rather a step council [00:16] ashams: it can be difficult to get organzied for such a large community [00:16] we want to get more *stable* activity as first goal [00:16] good idea [00:17] ashams: is it mostly IRC activity or events? [00:17] if you have any questions or need assistance, do join the #ubuntu-locoteams channel and ask questions. [00:17] dinda, yes it can, but we borrowed the idea of Focus Groups to help with this [00:17] * greg-g is on the LoCo Council [00:17] dinda, events [00:17] great! [00:17] greg-g, thanks, sure I'd :-) [00:18] * SergioMeneses -> hi all [00:18] hi SergioMeneses [00:18] dinda, actually we don't focus on IRC events that much [00:18] ashams: are there any pics of the Egyptian LoCo team? [00:18] n0rman, ah, yes, let my find it [00:19] while you do that, lets vote ;) [00:19] #vote ashams for membership [00:19] Please vote on: ashams for membership [00:19] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from cyphermox [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from greg-g [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from n0rman [00:19] +1 [00:19] +1 received from Pendulum [00:20] +1 [00:20] +1 received from dinda [00:20] #endvote [00:20] Voting ended on: ashams for membership [00:20] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [00:20] Motion carried === vibhav_ is now known as vibhav [00:20] congrats and welcome aboard, ashams ! [00:20] Congrats ashams ! [00:20] ashams: I mean, events or meeting of the LoCo :) [00:20] Congratulations ashams [00:20] Well done ashams [00:20] welcome ashams [00:20] ashams; Congratulations! [00:20] Congratulations, and welcome, ashams! [00:20] n0rman, sorry, I can't find the flicker profile right now, but we have some on our fb page: http://www.facebook.com/ubuntueg?sk=photos [00:20] Now off to bed with you ;-) [00:20] yes, go to sleep! [00:20] vibhav: ? [00:20] ashams: congrats! [00:20] Congrats ashams!!! [00:20] ready vibhav ? [00:20] n0rman: yes? [00:21] oh yes [00:21] #topic vibhav for membership === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: vibhav for membership [00:21] Please introduce yourself, vibhav [00:21] Thank you everybody, greg-g vibhav n0rman TiMiDo benonsoftware MrChrisDruif JoseeAntonioR Pendulum [00:21] ^_^ [00:21] hello all , my name is Vibhav Pant , I am an active Ubuntu Translator , Tester and convertor [00:22] PS : please excuse me if I become dead for some time [00:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vibhav [00:22] * MrChrisDruif has seen vibhav's name before somewhere... [00:22] also, why did you attend this one instead of another, more timezone appropriate, membership board? [00:22] Congrats ashams way to go! [00:22] Because the timings of Asian board clash with my schedule , greg-g [00:22] bkerensa, Thanks :-) [00:22] vibhav: ah [00:23] you can see me at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vibhav [00:24] vibhav: what kind of work do you do with the Indian LoCo? [00:24] Sorry guys , its my connection [00:24] Sorry guys , its my connection === vibhav_ is now known as vibhav [00:25] unfortunately, no :/ [00:25] so , where were we? [00:25] erm, oops wrong windo [00:25] vibhav: what kind of work do you do with the Indian LoCo? [00:25] greg-g: Translation , and converting people to Ubuntu [00:25] does the LoCo have many events? [00:26] It has some , but due to my studies and remote location , I cant visit them [00:27] vibhav: I notice you say that you don't do much on IRC, but your one testimonial mentions IRC. Is spending more time working on IRC something you're interested in doing? [00:27] vibhav: do you have plans to contribute (in collaboration with others) in other ways than translations? [00:28] Pendulum: I am not good at all on helping people on IRC [00:28] cyphermox: TEsting Ubuntu pre release images [00:28] vibhav; working on IRC is more then "just" support/help [00:29] vibhav: I think I missed this: when did become active with Ubuntu work? Not just as a user. [00:30] vibhav: I think I missed this: when did become active with Ubuntu work? Not just as a user. === vibhav_ is now known as vibhav [00:30] vibhav: I see you mentioned starting this alreday, what kind of testing were you doing, milestone tests? [00:30] cyphermox: Bug testing [00:30] vibhav: but I mean, using the tracker? [00:31] greg-g: I started translation about 6 months ago [00:31] cyphermox: yes [00:31] yes [00:32] ok [00:32] But I can assure you that I translate Ubuntu very well [00:33] vibhav: why are you seeking membership at this time? [00:33] dinda : because I have already missed 2 meetings [00:34] You can see my profile at https://launchpad.net/~vibhavp [00:34] vibhav: I guess I'm asking more about your motivations to be a member [00:34] dinda: Its nice to be a recognized contributor [00:34] Council may i make a statement? [00:34] vibhav: do you think you will be a good advocate and representative going forward? [00:35] pangolin: please do [00:35] I would like to say i think vibhav is a great person and he has a lot of energy. I feel he will one day make a great ubuntu member but at this time I am not certain he has done enough with the community to merit membership. I would like to see more from him. [00:35] that is all I wanted to say. [00:36] thank you pangolin. [00:36] sorry again === vibhav_ is now known as vibhav [00:37] vibhav: do you have concrete plans to revive the hindi translation efforts or help getting the LoCo team approved? [00:37] cyphermox: YES! [00:38] vibhav: please tell me more ;) [00:39] cyphermox: The Hindi Translation Team used to be alive and flourishing , but now since most of theam are elders , is dead [00:39] The Indian LoCo's administrators are also inactive [00:39] but do you have friends who might want to dive in and help out? [00:39] I am ashamed at this [00:40] #vote vibhav for membership [00:40] Please vote on: vibhav for membership [00:40] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [00:41] +0 I would love to see some more collaboration with other Indian LoCo members [00:41] +0 I would love to see some more collaboration with other Indian LoCo members received from greg-g [00:41] +0 agree with greg-g [00:41] +0 agree with greg-g received from dinda [00:42] I translate much , aint that good? [00:42] +0 I think your translations work has been great, but I'd like to see more collaberation with other people in the community [00:42] +0 I think your translations work has been great, but I'd like to see more collaberation with other people in the community received from Pendulum [00:42] But I cant do that [00:42] +0 [00:42] +0 received from cyphermox [00:42] really impressive translation work, but I'd also like to see more collaboration [00:42] #endvote [00:42] Voting ended on: vibhav for membership [00:42] Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4 [00:42] Deadlock, casting vote may be used [00:42] vibhav: memberships is also about you being part of the larger community [00:42] vibhav: do you have friends who might want to help out? [00:42] cyphermox: yes [00:43] I seem to remember some Free Software groups related to Ubuntu in India recently, right? [00:43] vibhav_: great! :) now you just need to do it, get closer to the ubuntu community :) collaborate with other persons :) [00:43] or at least some events? [00:43] vibhav_: Dont worry your doing good work just get more involved with community.... India has lots :) [00:43] I am a studying kid , so I dont have mmuch time for any physical meetings [00:43] vibhav: that would go a long way helping you with reviving the translation team and LoCo [00:43] * txomon|home understands that vibhav _ has a lot of illusion, but thinks you might get in touch with more of your local area partners [00:43] vibhav: yes, that's all fine :) [00:43] vibhav_: helping out in other ways is also great: planning, outreach, etc [00:44] above all, keep up the translation work, you're doing great! [00:44] thanks [00:44] indeed! [00:44] benonsoftware: ready? [00:44] Yep [00:44] #topic benonsoftware for membership === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: benonsoftware for membership [00:44] please introduce yourself, benonsoftware [00:44] Hello, I am Ben Donald-Wilson and I am a high school student in Australia [00:45] btw, with a 2011 join date, I'm surprised you got the "benny" userid on LP :) [00:45] greg-g: I emailed the user and he changed it :P [00:45] ahhhh :) [00:45] My wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/benny and LP is https://launchpad.net/~benny [00:46] I have done a couple of Ubuntu User Days sessions and one Global Jam, recently I have joined the Ubuntu Classroom Team [00:46] I have also been trying very hard to get Ubuntu into my school [00:47] I'm here to say I know him from UBT, he has done work on team reports [00:47] However none of the IT teachers knew what Ubuntu was and I have also found out that I would proberly have to go to the State Government with Ubuntu as they do the stuuf for that [00:48] thanks Unit193 ! [00:48] I will try this year with my new school and talk to them about Ubuntun and see what happenes [00:48] wow, going to the State gov is a pain, good on you for trying to do it! [00:48] Thank you [00:48] benonsoftware: Your wiki says you are "very active" in the Australian Loco - what kind of things have you done? [00:48] I am also active in the Ubuntu-AU LoCo doing the Team Reports too [00:49] I am also trying to set up a release party too at the moment [00:49] Im here because 1. He is a all around good guy and 2 he shows the sprit of Ubuntu through his hard work and action. As a ubuntu member, I think he would make a great member [00:50] thank you philipballew [00:50] no problem greg-g [00:51] I have attended both sessions that Ben gave, and I was impressed. He was very enthusiastic, and put a lot of effort in preparing his materials. In my opinion, he would be one of those members who are always trying to make a better community. [00:51] Good luck benonsoftware !! [00:51] MrChrisDruif: Thank you [00:51] thanks JoseeAntonioR [00:52] #vote benonsoftware for membership [00:52] Please vote on: benonsoftware for membership [00:52] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [00:52] +1 [00:52] +1 received from dinda [00:52] * benonsoftware is closing his eyes :P [00:52] +1 [00:52] +1 received from Pendulum [00:52] +1 good work and good particpation in the community [00:52] +1 good work and good particpation in the community received from greg-g [00:52] +1 [00:52] +1 received from n0rman [00:53] +1 [00:53] +1 received from cyphermox [00:53] #endvote [00:53] Voting ended on: benonsoftware for membership [00:53] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [00:53] Motion carried [00:53] congrats and welcome aboard, benonsoftware ! [00:53] benonsoftware; congratulations! [00:53] benonsoftware: congrats! [00:53] Thanks everyone [00:53] benonsoftware: congrats [00:53] JHOSMAN: ready? [00:53] congratulations, benonsoftware! [00:53] yes [00:53] Jhosman, Jhosman .... Forward brother :) [00:53] #topic JHOSMAN for membership === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: JHOSMAN for membership [00:54] Thanks MrChrisDruif Pendulum JoseeAntonioR greg-g [00:54] please introduce yourself JHOSMAN [00:54] Hi, my name is Jhosman am of the City of Bogota - Colombia 21 years I have used Ubuntu for over 5 years and a member of the community of Ubuntu Colombia, now in this crazy Team webMaster served as managing the website http://www.ubuntu-co.com and social networking activities, or have participated in many in Colombia have participated in launchpad besides the bugs and translations section, I think it's time to be part of the [00:54] congratulations benonsoftware [00:54] :) [00:54] Thanks TiMiDo :P [00:54] treatment of all leisure time activities for the community of Ubuntu Colombia, also promotes Ubuntu in my university, work and friends. Additionally I am Alpha and Beta tester of all Ubuntu distributions developing [00:55] It also develops the theme for my Loco Team Chrome, Chromium and additionally from a Chrome Application found in the Google Chrome Store liciencia both with Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported I support the Community Ubuntu Colombia em Twitter, Facebook and mailing list Ubuntu Colombia [00:55] Additionally I have thought about all the logistics work in the 2012 Bogota FLISOL [00:56] I see the SergioMeneses left a testimonial, good deal :) [00:56] JHOSMAN: is a great guy! and he will be a great ubuntu member! [00:57] thanks much, SergioMeneses :) [00:57] greg-g: don't worry my dear friend [00:57] JhOSMAN: you have a great wiki page and great testimonials [00:57] JHOSMAN: your participation looks great [00:57] To any other applicants: good luck! [00:57] =) [00:57] I'm off to bed [00:57] * txomon|home too [00:58] * txomon|home bye! [00:58] #vote JHOSMAN for membership [00:58] Please vote on: JHOSMAN for membership [00:58] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [00:58] +1 great work [00:58] +1 great work received from greg-g [00:58] +1 [00:58] +1 received from Pendulum [00:58] +1 [00:58] +1 received from dinda [00:58] +1 [00:58] +1 received from cyphermox [00:58] ¿1 [00:59] +1 [00:59] +1 received from n0rman [00:59] sorry :) [00:59] not sure about your +1? ;) [00:59] #endvote [00:59] Voting ended on: JHOSMAN for membership [00:59] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [00:59] Motion carried [00:59] what was that? :D [00:59] congrats and welcome, JHOSMAN ! [00:59] :D Thanks!!!!!! [00:59] uh oh [00:59] Well done JHOSMAN [00:59] great work JHOSMAN! [00:59] Congrats Jhosman !!!!! [00:59] welcome kh :) [00:59] albrigha must be up next :D [00:59] bkerensa: ahh :) [00:59] :S [00:59] JHOSMAN: congrats bro [01:00] albrigha: you ready? [01:00] yep! [01:00] JHOSMAN, welcome aboard [01:00] Nice =) [01:00] JoseGutierrez: congrats! [01:00] bah [01:00] Congratulations, [01:00] JHOSMAN: hard work bro [01:00] JHOSMAN: congrats! [01:00] :) [01:00] +1 [01:00] #topic albrigha for membership === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: albrigha for membership [01:01] please introduce yourself, albrigha [01:01] Hello! My name is Aaron. I've been working with Ubuntu for the past 7-8 years. I worked on the HP Linux Imaging and Printing project where I did a lot of launchpad support as well as helping Ubuntuforum users with issues. [01:02] I'd like to be a member to be able to participate in the direction of Ubuntu (voting), etc as well as continuing to help users with problems and working to make ubuntu amazing. [01:03] (not that it isn't amazing now..) :) [01:03] the HPLIP stuff was for work at a previous job? [01:03] Yes, this is true. [01:03] * greg-g is just looking at your LinkedIn :) [01:03] https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntuco/status/160165237411168258 [01:03] but during that time I also participated on ubuntuforums with helping users with other unrelated ubuntu issues. [01:04] awesome [01:04] albrigha: do you have any involvement with the Oregon LoCo? (I notice Launchpad says you're a member of the group) [01:05] I am working on being more active. I've been on the team for several years, but until we had some new management it was pretty inactive [01:05] :) [01:05] * bkerensa is Team Lead for Oregon [01:05] It's been getting more active however, and I will be participating. [01:05] albrigha: good deal [01:07] albrigha: any forums folks around to help support you? [01:08] no I didn't think to have some ready. [01:08] I do have someone from the Oregon LoCo though [01:08] :) [01:08] * bkerensa has feedback if needed [01:10] bkerensa: please share, if other than your wiki testimonial (thanks for that!) [01:10] albrigha: your forum and LP answers involvement seems to not be so recent, is there a reason you're applying now? [01:11] greg-g: I just wanted to add that due to some previous issues with the LoCo going dormant it would have been hard for albrigha to participate for some period of time although I do see him engaging via our social networks and I'm hoping when he is able he can make it to an event (his geographical location may pose a hurdle at this time) [01:12] Pendulum: yes, I had a wrist issue and wasn't as involved in the past year. But I've gotten that fixed so it's much easier to be involved. As for why now, I've missed working with Ubuntu/Linux and and as Ubuntu is a huge part of my life I want to take steps to be involved with the direction of ubuntu and to continue working in the community. [01:13] ah, glad your wrist issue is taking care of [01:13] taken [01:13] greg-g: thanks :) [01:14] albrigha: glad to know things are better :) [01:14] #vote albrigha for membership [01:14] Please vote on: albrigha for membership [01:14] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [01:14] +1 great track record and will love to see your future work [01:14] +1 great track record and will love to see your future work received from greg-g [01:14] +1 [01:14] +1 received from dinda [01:14] +1 [01:14] +1 received from Pendulum [01:15] +0 [01:15] +0 received from n0rman [01:15] +0 [01:15] +0 received from cyphermox [01:15] #endvote [01:15] Voting ended on: albrigha for membership [01:15] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:2 [01:15] Motion carried [01:16] congrats and welcome aboard, albrigha ! [01:16] Thanks! [01:16] thanks to everyone for coming and congrats to all of the new members, again! [01:16] I think you're doing great, but I would have preferred to see more. regardless, keep it up, and congrats :) [01:16] welcome aboard, AlanBell [01:16] Congrats albrigha !!!!! [01:16] welcome aboard, albrigha [01:16] ;) [01:16] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [01:16] Meeting ended Fri Jan 20 01:16:35 2012 UTC. [01:16] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-20-00.00.moin.txt [01:16] albrigha: congrats! [01:16] Sorry my conection is refused! [01:16] cyphermox: I'll keep doing more! [01:16] albrigha: I look forward to meeting you at some point in the future [01:16] Thanks everyone ^_^ [01:16] thanks everyone! [01:16] thanks everyone [01:17] Congrats to you all! [01:17] Thanks everyone [01:17] Congrats, everyone! [01:18] cyphermox: I look forward to meet you as well! [01:19] =9 [01:19] +1 [01:19] :P [01:19] meeting time, [01:19] where at? [01:19] lol [01:20] cyphermox: Just wondering when will the LP page be updated? [01:20] :) [01:20] Bye!!! [01:20] benonsoftware: When they update it but usually same day the rest of the perks take awhile and are script based [01:21] Ok [01:35] i have a question, i was speaking to tgreer, to get my Ubuntu cloacks, and he said, he need it a team owner so they can approve the cloaks, or now i wait until i get an email from anyone, ? [01:37] TiMiDo: I'm working on adding people to the group now :) [01:38] oh Thank you Pendulum [01:39] after she's done you can pop in #ubuntu-irc and ask [01:39] and on that I call it a night as well. [01:39] almost 4am, jikes [01:41] have a good night, Myrtti [01:44] #gslug [01:44] oops [01:45] Pendulum: What will we do in 2 years when our memberships expire? [01:46] benonsoftware: you will receive an email asking you if you want to continue being a member and will need to click the button on the LP link that will be provided. [01:46] Ok, thanks [01:46] I believe. [01:50] that's correct [01:50] it will prompt you to renew yourself [01:50] Thanks === Igorots is now known as Knightlust === IdleOne is now known as pangolin === Darkwing is now known as DarkwingSCALE === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === doko_ is now known as doko === plars is now known as plars-away === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:56] hi there [16:00] * pitti rings the release meeting bell [16:00] hello everyone [16:00] o/ [16:00] * stgraber waves [16:01] * pitti is a Kate impostor today [16:01] although I realize that my hair isn't blond enough [16:01] hi o/ [16:01] * arosales hello [16:01] o/ [16:01] moop [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Fri Jan 20 16:01:31 2012 UTC. The chair is pitti. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [16:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:01] [TOPIC] Release general overview - pitti === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release general overview - pitti [16:01] Agenda can be found: [16:01] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-01-20 [16:02] Individual team status links were/will be added to it from: [16:02] #link [16:02] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/thread.html [16:02] Schedule is at: [16:02] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule [16:02] #link http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ubuntu-release-calendar/ [16:03] Bugs committed to be fixed by the engineering teams can be found: [16:03] #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html [16:03] Bugs that you would like the engineering teams to consider for fixing, [16:03] should be assigned to specific teams, so they can be found. [16:03] . [16:03] Upcoming Dates: [16:03] • 2012/01/19 - 10.04.4 Freeze [16:03] • 2012/02/02 - Alpha 2 [16:03] • 2012/02/16 - Feature Freeze [16:03] • 2012/02/16 - 10.04.4 [16:03] ***WORKITEMS:*** Lots of progress this week, but we're still over the [16:03] trend line for some teams. Please review to see and mark what no [16:03] longer looks possible this release. [16:03] #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ [16:03] also, please note how the total number of items keeps growing up [16:04] Note: There are now 2721 up from 2541 last week, originally 2084 on [16:04] 2011/11/25), so figuring out now what is NOT going to happen in the next [16:04] 5 weeks, and indicating blocked and postponed, would be much [16:04] appreciated. [16:04] Kate started following up with some individual and teams, and will be [16:04] following up with the others next week. [16:04] Questions? [16:04] .. [16:04] While growth in WI count isn't ideal, I think it's preferable to apparent lack of progress due to insufficiently-granular items [16:05] yes, if it's splitting existing work into smaller pieces; but at least in desktop we also got some entirely new stuff [16:05] [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris or brendand === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Hardware Certification team update - mlegris or brendand [16:05] ah, OK - ours has pretty much just been splitting [16:05] hi all! [16:05] I didn't see a status mail from cert, so it's not on the wiki page [16:06] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000730.html [16:06] (wrong date in email subject) [16:06] no major issues from our weekly testing [16:07] thanks, wiki page updated [16:07] (for ogra as well) [16:07] .. [16:07] questions? [16:07] hmm ? [16:07] oh, i was just late, sent it at 16:58, sorry for that [16:07] ogra_: I mean your report [16:07] [TOPIC] QA team update - jibel === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: QA team update - jibel [16:08] * ogra_ sees it in the archive [16:08] Team status https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000742.html [16:08] ogra_: he's thanking you for it, it's all good [16:09] image status and bugs found from our daily testing are listed in the report. [16:09] ogra_: I mean I added your report to the meeting wiki page, too [16:09] ah, k, sorry, was distracted a bit ... [16:09] .. [16:09] jibel: thanks, looks like good stable+1 fodder for the next weeks to fix upgrades [16:09] any questions for QA? [16:10] [TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Security team Q&A - mdeslaur [16:10] Boot speed shows regression starting from 2012-01-18, it's worth an expert to have a look. [16:10] pitti, ^ [16:10] whoops, sorry [16:10] .. [16:10] hi [16:10] jibel: anything in the desktop time budget? [16:10] (ie unity related) [16:10] I here in place of mdeslaur today (who is off) [16:11] dbarth, no yet. [16:11] s/I/I'm/ [16:11] jibel: will have a look on Monday [16:11] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000728.html for teh security report [16:11] Yeah, I started trying to dig into upgrade bugs late this week [16:11] any questions for jdstrand? [16:12] I was waiting for the other questions to stop :) [16:12] but, yes, that mailing list entry pretty much sums it up. As a team, focused a lot on updates after the rally this week, but did continue to work on some work items. [16:12] a bunch of work items should be coming to completion within the next week or two [16:12] Not much else to report. [16:13] .. [16:13] [TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara [16:14] [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000727.html [16:14] Everything should have been covered in the email. Any questions? [16:14] .. [16:15] thanks apw [16:15] [TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson [16:15] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000737.html [16:15] any questions? [16:16] cjwatson: Was my koffice reply sufficient? [16:16] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000737.html [16:16] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html [16:16] We made good progress at the rally, and the trend line is at the right angle since then, but we still have a backlog to clear up. (That said, there are quite a few "foreign" items in there; we're below the line for team items.) [16:16] Nothing else beyond the mail above. [16:16] ScottK: Yes, that seems fine, thanks - just wanted to make sure it wasn't drifting [16:16] .. [16:16] Great. [16:17] [TOPIC] Server team Q&A - arosales === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Server team Q&A - arosales [16:17] Hello [16:17] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000745.html [16:17] The team continued to make good progress on the CI automation testing as well as defining the hardware provisioning specification. We also have a few openstack bugs we are working on. [16:17] There are some 'NEW' Work Items.. There were some incorrect spacing in the whiteboard, causing them not to be parsed. I have defered some other WI's this week. [16:17] Thanks [16:17] * Daviey goes home. [16:18] . . . [16:18] Any questions? [16:19] [TOPIC] ARM team Q&A- ogra_ === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM team Q&A- ogra_ [16:19] * ogra_ waves [16:19] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000747.html [16:19] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000747.html [16:19] nothing to add beyond : [16:20] ogra_: Are you aware of the qtwebkit-source problem we're having? [16:20] (fails at link time due to out of memory) [16:20] many thanks to dbarth and the DX team as well as rsalveti and the GFX team in linaro for making unity GLES happen after 1,5years now [16:20] .. [16:20] ahem :/ [16:20] infinity is aware of qtwebkit-source [16:20] ScottK, yeap, saw that, someone will look at it [16:21] dbarth, that wasnt critics, but a praise ... no " :/ " needed :) [16:21] .. [16:21] ogra_: nw [16:21] I was puzzled by the comment on list that qt 4.8 needs newer kernel [16:22] ScottK: we're getting new kernels for memory pressure problems, I think [16:22] (on buildds) [16:22] should already be there now [16:22] That's my understanding. Do we have a timeline for it? [16:22] because I understood that had already been fixed on the pandas at least [16:22] it had [16:22] ah, well, that I'm not sure of [16:22] and that the other machines were In Progress [16:22] but they werent fully through the SRU process [16:22] .. [16:23] could some buildd admin force it to build on a panda, to be sure? [16:23] Sounds like a good idea. [16:23] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-source/2.2.1-1ubuntu1/+build/3096697 is the build. [16:23] babbages have the fix too now ... [16:23] ScottK: ping me if you need that over the European daytime, I'm happy to do buildd jiggling [16:23] kitalpha does sound like a new one, though [16:23] pitti: Could you do it ~now (after the meeting)? [16:24] pitti: the panda buildds all have 'panda' in their name now, courtesy of lamont [16:24] ScottK: will ping you in #u-devel [16:24] Thanks. [16:24] anything else for ARM? [16:24] er, confusion; I just looked and qt4-x11 4:4.8.0-1ubuntu1 is listed as built everywhere? [16:24] oh, qtwebkit-source, o,k [16:25] right [16:25] .. [16:25] [TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo or rsalveti === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Linaro team Q&A - fabo or rsalveti [16:25] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000738.html [16:26] in addition, we started to define usb host, bt, wifi basic testing [16:26] it will be done with lava [16:26] .. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:27] any questions for Linaro? [16:27] [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover [16:27] no report from U1 on the list yet [16:27] and doesn't seem online, so skipping I guess [16:28] [TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A - pitti === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Desktop Team Q&A - pitti [16:28] * pitti grabs the other hat [16:28] report is at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000734.html [16:28] bug 916726 got fixed since then [16:28] Launchpad bug 916726 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Precise) "Drop extra Java dependencies from 3.5.0~beta2-2ubuntu3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/916726 [16:28] otherwise, any questions? [16:28] .. [16:28] pitti: Do the DNS changes automatically affect all flavors or just Ubuntu? [16:29] I think all flavours, it's NM and below [16:29] Sounds like. Thanks. [16:29] [TOPIC] Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth [16:29] hi [16:29] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000739.html [16:29] the report says it all: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus [16:30] any questions? [16:30] i think i have all of the release team bug now milestoned and tracked; if any are left unattended, please ping me [16:30] and i'm looking into the boot time figures atm [16:30] .. [16:30] [TOPIC] Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - olli === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - olli [16:30] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000746.html [16:30] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000746.html [16:31] everything is covered there [16:31] any questions [16:31] [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell [16:31] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000741.html [16:32] any questions for Riddell ? [16:32] do you know if anyone is working on bug 901638? [16:32] Launchpad bug 901638 in unixodbc (Ubuntu Precise) "Remove iodbc2 (causes upgrade failure from Oneiric to Precise)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901638 [16:32] I have it in my queue :P [16:33] i. e. making soprano work with unixodbc? [16:33] seems I didn't get too far back then :( [16:33] it's a pretty deep issue [16:33] yeah, indeed [16:33] other questions? [16:33] [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber or highvoltage === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber or highvoltage [16:34] * stgraber waves [16:34] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000731.html [16:34] any questions? [16:34] I just confirmed this morning that Edubuntu now upgrades fine again (11.10 to 12.04) [16:34] .. [16:35] do you still have that auto-upgrader tester running? [16:35] yep, it's pushing daily results for all flavours to the ISO tracker [16:36] [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick or charlie-tca === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick or charlie-tca [16:36] (sorry we all missed kubuntu slot but nothing else to add from me) [16:36] need to refresh the VM images though, it's taking over 2 hours per test now due to the amount of updates to install (using libeatmydata would be nice too) [16:36] hi [16:36] .. [16:36] (no report on the list) [16:36] Well, as far as I know, there is nothing going on [16:36] this last week [16:36] so, no news == no major breakage? :-) [16:36] And sorry for the missing report, i was celebrating my birthday :) [16:36] .. [16:37] madnick: oh, happy birthday! [16:37] any questions for Xubuntu? [16:37] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work [16:37] * status - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/group/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio.html * blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio [16:37] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000740.html [16:37] we made a lot of progress during the last two week [16:38] i will also scrub the work items to make appropriate ones at either blocked or postoned as requested [16:38] i want to thank cjwatson for his time and efforts to move us to a live-dvd [16:38] .. [16:39] scott-work: do you plan to already release a live DVD for alpha-2? that sounds like it needs some coordination with ~u-release to build them instead of the alternates? [16:39] oh, it's done? great [16:39] (don't se it yet on cdimage, that's why I asked) [16:39] colin is working towards it, not completed yet [16:39] .. [16:40] any questions for scott-work? [16:40] [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir [16:40] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-January/000743.html [16:40] hi :) [16:40] thanks, nothing to add [16:40] .. [16:40] thanks, any questions? [16:40] [TOPIC] MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney [16:41] hi [16:41] nothing I can think of [16:41] (except that someone is thinking of doing an opencv transitino, he mailed the list) [16:41] .. [16:41] any questions? [16:42] [TOPIC] 10.04.4 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: 10.04.4 [16:42] We froze lucid-proposed yesterday, and today some fixes were still accepted which were targetted to 10.04.4: [16:42] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=30510 [16:42] I cleaned up that list this morning, looks reasonably well now. We mainly need verification now. [16:42] bug 810068 is the only outstanding "High" one, but I think cjwatson is handling this? [16:42] Launchpad bug 810068 in partman-iscsi (Ubuntu Natty) "kickstart iscsi option broken" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810068 [16:42] the other three medium ones don't seem like a huge blocker to me, but if someone wants to pick them up, now is the time :) [16:43] note that we have daily lucid CDs built now [16:43] I'm just not sure that they use -proposed; cjwatson, do they? the cronjob doesn't have a magic flag? or is that set somewhere else? [16:43] they're using -proposed, yes [16:43] it's done in cdimage and debian-cd [16:44] tumbleweed: (sorry, missed MOTU) - http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/01/msg00560.html seems like something worth looking into. [16:45] ScottK: indeed, this mainly looks like an exercise in dropping build deps or removing packages? [16:45] pitti: thinking about it for LTSP, I'd rather fix that cleanly in 12.04 and not try to mess with the udeb in 10.04.4. This particular script tends to break in interesting ways every time I touch it so I'd rather stick with known issues (a race condition so rarely met that the only report I got of it was from Patrick Wright) [16:45] ScottK: oh, yes, I saw that this morning [16:45] pitti: Yes. [16:45] stgraber: yes, I agree; lucid survived until now with that, after all [16:45] seems tjaalton is already on it [16:46] stgraber: (dropped milestone) [16:46] pitti: thanks [16:46] anything else for 10.04.4? [16:46] anything which we really need to squeeze in which isn't on above list/ [16:46] ? [16:47] [TOPIC] Any other business, comments, questions? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any other business, comments, questions? [16:48] so, thanks everyone, and enjoy the weekend! [16:48] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:48] Meeting ended Fri Jan 20 16:48:13 2012 UTC. [16:48] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-20-16.01.moin.txt [16:48] yay [16:48] thank you pitti [16:48] thanks pitti [16:48] thanks [16:48] thanks [16:49] thanks pitti [16:50] thanks pitti === doko_ is now known as doko === ISK_ is now known as ISK