| cnd | RAOF, will you be following up on the xkeyboard-config security issue? | 00:19 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | cnd: Yes. | 00:19 |
| cnd | cool | 00:19 |
| RAOF | We can fix it without an X patch, just a fixed xkeyboard-config. | 00:20 |
| RAOF | (Because the ability to turn on that behaviour is awesome) | 00:20 |
| cnd | actually, I needed that functionality last week :) | 00:21 |
| RAOF | :) | 00:22 |
| cnd | when I hit that bug in the server that was using the wrong timestamps to verify AllowEvents requests | 00:22 |
| cnd | silly me, I obviously just needed to hit ctrl+alt+KP_Multiply | 00:22 |
| RAOF | :) | 00:24 |
| RAOF | I, sadly, don't have a KP_MULTIPLY :( | 00:24 |
| cnd | I was going to comment the same, until I glanced over and was reminded how beastly behemoth is | 00:24 |
| cnd | sadly, I *did* have KP_Multiply last week, even on the machine I was testing with | 00:25 |
| cnd | RAOF, I'd like to upload a version of synaptics with MT | 00:30 |
| RAOF | Make it so. | 00:30 |
| cnd | my thoughts are to squash all the patches I pushed out to the list today into one big 127_xi22.patch | 00:30 |
| cnd | sound good? | 00:30 |
| RAOF | Sounds reasonable. Once those patches are accepted we'll nab a newer upstream snapshot? | 00:31 |
| cnd | yeah | 00:31 |
| cnd | I don't really know if they'll be accepted in their current form | 00:31 |
| cnd | see email 0/6 | 00:31 |
| cnd | but I think it's the best we're going to get before feature freeze | 00:31 |
| RAOF | That's Feb, right? | 00:34 |
| cnd | yeah | 00:35 |
| cnd | I'm afraid that either this patch set is acceptable, or major synaptics overhaul will be needed | 00:36 |
| RAOF | Ah, yeah. The rebuilding eventcomm thingy. | 00:36 |
| cnd | yeah | 00:36 |
| cnd | I've asked whot about it a few times in passing this week | 00:36 |
| cnd | he seems too busy to think about it much | 00:36 |
| cnd | so I just pushed out what I've got | 00:36 |
| RAOF | Yeah, I've seen that. | 00:37 |
| cnd | RAOF, we really should send a patch upstream to make xtst usage optional at configure time for syndaemon | 00:42 |
| cnd | it's annoying having to install, remove, install, remove libxtst-dev | 00:42 |
| cnd | each time I switch between building synaptics and anything else | 00:43 |
| RAOF | That sounds good. You can't chroot it, though? | 00:43 |
| RAOF | I mean, do all your test-builds in the source tree, with libxtst-dev installed, and then build packages in an schroot. | 00:44 |
| cnd | building in chroots is so much slower :) | 00:44 |
| cnd | argh, bash keeps segfaulting on me in precise | 00:45 |
| cnd | make check in utouch-frame and xserver-xorg-input-synaptics results in: | 00:45 |
| cnd | /bin/sh: line 5: 12477 Segmentation fault (core dumped) ${dir}$tst | 00:45 |
| RAOF | Build on tmpfs, with a local mirror. It's not *that* much slower :) | 00:46 |
| RAOF | Except the first time, when it's populating the cache. | 00:47 |
| cnd | that's too fancy for me | 00:47 |
| cnd | the more it takes for me to set things up, the less likely it is I'll remember when my hard drive dies | 00:47 |
| * RAOF should really clean up his sbuild config for that and submit it as a patch upstream. | 00:47 | |
| cnd | ok, new xorg-server and xserver-xorg-input-synaptics are uploaded with MT support for trackpads | 00:49 |
| RAOF | Woot! | 00:50 |
| cnd | RAOF, do you want to organize some last minute smoke testing after they finish building? | 00:50 |
| cnd | the synaptics stuff is all brand spankin' new | 00:50 |
| RAOF | Yes, please. That would be swanky. | 00:50 |
| cnd | I'll send an email to ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-x | 00:51 |
| RAOF | Mmmm, segfaults in the testsuite. | 00:59 |
| cnd | on the buildds too... | 01:03 |
| cnd | wow, the archive buildds are fast | 01:04 |
| cnd | xorg-server is already done for amd64 and i386 | 01:04 |
| RAOF | They're like 18 core super awesomes. | 01:04 |
| RAOF | Dear server-side XCB. Why don't you exist? | 01:07 |
| bryce | sarvatt was saying the reason the buildds were unavailable to ppas was the result of a glitch in a script failing to reassign them back to ppa duty, that has been fixed now | 01:08 |
| cnd | I'm noting also that it took the buildds 5 minutes, 6.1 seconds to build xorg-server on amd64 | 01:15 |
| cnd | including the udeb | 01:15 |
| cnd | that's way faster than I remember them building on any buildd | 01:16 |
| * cnd wonders if they turned on DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=<n>" | 01:16 | |
| RAOF | I'm pretty sure they do. | 01:17 |
| cnd | downgrading bash to oneiric doesn't fix things... | 01:29 |
| RAOF | I don't think it's bash segfaulting; I think it's your test segfaulting. | 01:31 |
| RAOF | cnd: I'm pretty sure that's an artefact of the way autotools runs the tests; when they segfault, they look like that. | 01:32 |
| cnd | hmm | 01:32 |
| RAOF | Man, wouldn't it be awesome if we had developer tools that didn't occasionally lock up? :/ | 01:33 |
| cnd | ahh yes, eventcomm-test is segfaulting | 01:33 |
| cnd | let's see what's wrong | 01:34 |
| cnd | I guess I have a bug in my utouch-frame testsuite too :) | 01:34 |
| cnd | I see the issue | 01:35 |
| cnd | things should be all better now | 01:47 |
| cnd | RAOF, when do you think the xkeyboard-config issue will be fixed? | 01:48 |
| cnd | I'm writing up the email to the lists for smoke testing | 01:48 |
| cnd | if it'll be fixed in a jiffy, I'll not mention it so as not to cause confusion | 01:48 |
| cnd | but if not, then I'll leave a note about it | 01:48 |
| RAOF | It should be fixed in a jiffy, I think. | 01:49 |
| cnd | ok, my definition of jiffy is in the next couple hours | 01:49 |
| cnd | do we have the same definition :) | 01:49 |
| cnd | ? | 01:49 |
| RAOF | Yes | 01:49 |
| cnd | cool | 01:49 |
| * cnd would love to hold you to the kernel definition of a jiffy | 01:50 | |
| cnd | oh, too late... | 01:50 |
| cnd | I decided to be safe and mention the security hole | 02:01 |
| cnd | ok, I'm out of here | 02:01 |
| cnd | leaving on a high note :) | 02:01 |
| RAOF | :) | 02:02 |
| cnd | see you all tomorrow, unless you're one of those weirdos on the other side of the dateline :) | 02:02 |
| RAOF | Ah. 1pm. | 02:03 |
| RAOF | So *that's* why I'm hungry! | 02:03 |
| cnd | RAOF, I just noticed your wacom upload | 04:47 |
| cnd | was it straightforward to fix? | 04:47 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 04:48 |
| RAOF | It was just a matter of convincing wacom that input abi 15 didn't mean the options abi was available. | 04:48 |
| RAOF | You'll see the diff is pretty small. | 04:49 |
| RAOF | Of course, I don't *have* a wacom device, so I'm not sure that it actually works ☺ | 04:50 |
| cnd | same here :( | 04:54 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Oh, hey. You might think that pkg-xorg can push to your xf86-input-wacom repository on alioth, but all the subdirectories of object are missing write permissions for the group. | 04:59 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: oh boo | 04:59 |
| cnd | tjaalton, I can never figure you out, is it really early in your day, or really late? | 05:01 |
| tjaalton | cnd: really early this time :) | 05:01 |
| cnd | heh, ok | 05:01 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: ok, it's busted then, now I can't change the permissions on objects owned by you :) | 05:02 |
| RAOF | I can change those. | 05:02 |
| tjaalton | cnd: don't worry, just got here | 05:02 |
| RAOF | And now we win! | 05:03 |
| RAOF | Well, um, for a while. | 05:04 |
| tjaalton | right.. | 05:04 |
| tjaalton | if only ron would be willing to move -wacom under collab-maint or sth | 05:05 |
| tjaalton | or <gasp> pkg-xorg | 05:05 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: actually, the faulty bit is the default umask, i think. and that's hard to fix properly | 05:06 |
| tjaalton | so that it doesn't mess the other repos | 05:06 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 05:07 |
| tjaalton | oh and I have wacom | 05:11 |
| tjaalton | also, 0.13 is released but I can do that later | 05:16 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: is this all going in today or next week? | 05:36 |
| tjaalton | I've still the xorg changelog to update and push to staging | 05:37 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Next week, I think. | 05:39 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 05:39 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: We can get a little smoke testing over the weekend, and push on Monday. | 05:39 |
| RAOF | Well, over *my* weekend. Over other people's Friday :) | 05:40 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 05:40 |
| tjaalton | is the newest stuff on a private ppa? | 05:40 |
| tjaalton | or was that only used for builds | 05:40 |
| tjaalton | oh, new emails | 05:42 |
| tjaalton | cnd: you didn't mention where the stack is, though I'm assuming it's x-staging still :) | 05:44 |
| Sarvatt | tjaalton: whoops, https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging | 05:45 |
| tjaalton | aha, not that private, good | 05:45 |
| RAOF | It needed to be a canonical-only team to get access to the non-virtualised PPA, but it's public. | 05:58 |
| tjaalton | gotcha | 06:13 |
| tjaalton | upgraded to current staging, all is well | 07:31 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: Are you using an amd64 box? | 07:35 |
| RAOF | tjaalton: I suspect that nvidia-{current,173} amd64 in there are broken, because it seems you can't build the source package properly on i386. | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | RAOF: yep, intel though | 07:37 |
| ricotz | RAOF, good afternoon :) | 08:37 |
| ricotz | RAOF, do you mind syncing pixman? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pixman/+bug/918873 | 08:38 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 918873 in pixman (Ubuntu) "Sync pixman 0.24.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | 08:38 |
| tjaalton | i can do that | 08:48 |
| tjaalton | done | 08:52 |
| ricotz | tjaalton, thanks! :) | 09:11 |
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| tjaalton | doing the xorg changelog update now, then push it to the staging repo | 15:07 |
| Sarvatt | ricotz: ugh, 2 hour queue for openchrome/qxl/mga | 18:55 |
| Sarvatt | and geode | 18:55 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: I think you might like anno 2070 btw | 19:10 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, ideas on bug #918769? seen any dell vostro 360's? | 19:31 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 918769 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "X blink with Vostro 360 and Ubuntu Oneiric and Precise (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918769 | 19:31 |
| Sarvatt | bryce: eDP | 19:32 |
| bryce | aha | 19:32 |
| Sarvatt | if the system has a video input board, it uses an hdmi display internally, if not it uses eDP, that system was a nightmare | 19:33 |
| bryce | so disable that in xorg.conf? | 19:33 |
| Sarvatt | nawh just saying there were problems, it was only fixed in 3.2 | 19:33 |
| Sarvatt | will take some digging but i might be able to find the backported fix for 3.0, its not going to be possible to SRU though | 19:33 |
| Sarvatt | aka its a HUGE change | 19:34 |
| bryce | this guy finds it happens on 3.2.0-9.16-generic-pae 3.2.1 though | 19:34 |
| Sarvatt | oh, hmm | 19:34 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, did it show the same symptoms? blinking every 10 seconds (edid polling??) | 19:34 |
| Sarvatt | no display wouldn't turn on at all, sorry for not reading it fully :) | 19:35 |
| Sarvatt | that has an upstream bug.. | 19:35 |
| Sarvatt | hold on, finishing up lunch | 19:35 |
| bryce | eDP1 is connected | 19:35 |
| Prf_Jakob | hows the X server packaging comming along? | 19:39 |
| bryce | Prf_Jakob, are you on the ubuntu-x@ mailing list? there's been some discussion there as to its status | 19:39 |
| Prf_Jakob | bryce: hmm no, maybe I should get on there. | 19:40 |
| bryce | Prf_Jakob, x-staging is available for smoke testing. I think there's some builds we're still waiting on but I should expect the upload any day now. | 19:41 |
| bryce | Sarvatt, I think this sounds like a good bug to have the guy test a ppa kernel on | 19:42 |
| Prf_Jakob | thanks for the info. | 19:42 |
| cnd | Prf_Jakob, bryce: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging/+packages | 19:58 |
| cnd | all green checks now | 19:58 |
| cnd | for those we expect to build | 19:58 |
| cnd | we'll probably push them on monday unless people have blocker issues | 19:58 |
| cnd | hmm... looks like xf86-video-msm should build for armhf | 19:59 |
| cnd | it's probably not a blocker though | 19:59 |
| xrdodrx | Has anyone had success removing the Xorg-Edgers PPA in Oneiric? | 20:01 |
| xrdodrx | The page just says that there are issues, but not how one might fix them. | 20:01 |
| xrdodrx | Currently when I try to do so apt wants to remove most installed packages | 20:02 |
| Prf_Jakob | cnd: ok nice, onto mesa after that? | 20:02 |
| cnd | Prf_Jakob, tbh, I don't know anything about the video side of X | 20:02 |
| cnd | so I don't know much about mesa, or what you're even asking :) | 20:02 |
| Prf_Jakob | cnd: ok fair enough. | 20:03 |
| cnd | bryce, Sarvatt, any ideas for Prf_Jakob? ^^ | 20:03 |
| bryce | xrdodrx, htorque on #ubuntu-kernel ran into that and manually downgraded stuff to resolve it | 20:03 |
| bryce | Prf_Jakob, yes on to mesa following that | 20:04 |
| Prf_Jakob | Cool, thanks | 20:04 |
| xrdodrx | bryce, do you think he'd help me if I asked him which packages he downgraded? | 20:04 |
| bryce | xrdodrx, no idea | 20:05 |
| Sarvatt | xrdodrx: give it another hour or so and it'll be fixed | 20:05 |
| Sarvatt | the message is saying dont upgrade | 20:05 |
| bryce | here's what he said: | 20:05 |
| Sarvatt | unless you're using proprietary drivers that is | 20:05 |
| bryce | <htorque> Sarvatt: thanks, already on it. ppa-purge might not work, but it seems to give me the right order in which i can mark the packages for a downgrade in synaptic. should be done soon. :) | 20:05 |
| xrdodrx | well, I can surely wait an hour | 20:06 |
| xrdodrx | thanks :) | 20:06 |
| bryce | xrdodrx, yep, that's probably easiest | 20:06 |
| Sarvatt | xrdodrx: mind pasting the output of apt-get dist-upgrade (don't accept the upgrade, just want to know whats held back) | 20:06 |
| Sarvatt | geode openchrome mga and qxl were just finished building and haven't been published yet, that should be the end of it | 20:07 |
| Sarvatt | but I might have missed something.. | 20:08 |
| xrdodrx | Sarvatt, nothing is held back | 20:09 |
| xrdodrx | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 20:09 |
| xrdodrx | I re-added the PPA, however | 20:09 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, feel free to go ahead ;) | 20:09 |
| Sarvatt | go ahead? | 20:10 |
| Sarvatt | looks like apm and rendition were missed | 20:11 |
| Sarvatt | xrdodrx: did you apt-get update after adding it again? | 20:11 |
| xrdodrx | yes. | 20:11 |
| xrdodrx | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 20:11 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, i mean you can upgrade to 1.12 | 20:11 |
| Sarvatt | ricotz: i'm still on your 1.12 ppa so cant see what people usually see trying to upgrade | 20:12 |
| ricotz | Sarvatt, oh, ok, i thought you arent using it | 20:13 |
| Sarvatt | ok apm and rendition uploaded, what else did we miss.. | 20:15 |
| bryce | poulsbo! | 20:15 |
| Sarvatt | oh cool you got fglrx and nvidia-current | 20:16 |
| Sarvatt | virtualbox time | 20:17 |
| ricotz | right | 20:17 |
| ricotz | if it compiles... | 20:17 |
| Sarvatt | building it locally first | 20:20 |
| xrdodrx | Sarvatt, forgot to mention I'm using Oneiric and accidentally accepted an update a few hours ago to all my packages ;-) | 20:22 |
| xrdodrx | dist-upgrade still shows nothing hold back :o | 20:22 |
| Sarvatt | xrdodrx: ohhh i'm sorry, the transition is only for precise, nothings been updated in oneiric in a few days | 20:24 |
| Sarvatt | except unity thats building right now | 20:24 |
| xrdodrx | Right, the only thing that broke here is 3D acceleration. | 20:24 |
| xrdodrx | That's why I'm either trying to downgrade or remove Xorg Edgers. | 20:24 |
| Sarvatt | sheesh, I'm blind! ok so you want to revert xorg-edgers.. this is going to be rough :) | 20:24 |
| xrdodrx | I'd prefer to just downgrade it, I installed it as my Mesa was not working in default Ubuntu (certain 3D acceleration tasks crashed X) | 20:25 |
| xrdodrx | (and resulted in a hung GPU) | 20:25 |
| Sarvatt | so with edgers sources enabled, run sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers, dont accept any aptitude solutions (aka press q), you get a list of packages that need to be downgraded | 20:25 |
| Sarvatt | well first off, are you on amd64 or i386? | 20:25 |
| xrdodrx | amd64 | 20:26 |
| Sarvatt | its significantly easier on i386 because ppa-purge works :) | 20:26 |
| Sarvatt | darn | 20:26 |
| Sarvatt | ok | 20:26 |
| xrdodrx | i5-2500, video-intel (sandy bridge graphics) | 20:26 |
| Sarvatt | you're going to need to downgrade/remove :i386 versions of xorg-edgers stuff | 20:26 |
| Sarvatt | easiest way is going to be to apt-get purge the :i386 stuff completely, let it break multiarch | 20:28 |
| Sarvatt | break as in remove other :i386 stuff too | 20:28 |
| Sarvatt | like it'll remove wine, skype, maybe flash | 20:28 |
| xrdodrx | Sarvatt, I shouldn't need :i386 anyway, right? | 20:28 |
| Sarvatt | you can always readd it after you're done but it makes it lots more complicated | 20:28 |
| xrdodrx | I use the new 64-bit flash | 20:28 |
| xrdodrx | and neither wine nor skype | 20:29 |
| Sarvatt | can ya pastebin dpkg -l | grep :i386? | 20:29 |
| xrdodrx | http://pastebin.com/vpz8uSLT | 20:30 |
| xrdodrx | i have skype installed but i never use it as even the beta is very old | 20:30 |
| Sarvatt | ok one sec, let me make up a list for you to start out with | 20:30 |
| xrdodrx | okay. thank you :) | 20:31 |
| Sarvatt | sudo apt-get purge libpciaccess0:i386 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau1a:i386 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libegl1-mesa:i386 libdrm2:i386 libegl1-mesa-drivers:i386 libffi6:i386 libgbm1:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libpixman-1-0:i386 | 20:33 |
| Sarvatt | paste what it wants to remove, will tell ya if its ok | 20:33 |
| xrdodrx | Sarvatt, There isn't some way I can just downgrade my xorg-edgers packages? | 20:34 |
| xrdodrx | like i said, official ubuntu packages were crashing X on certain video accel tasks | 20:35 |
| xrdodrx | here's the paste, in any case: http://pastebin.com/Gt9s1w5w | 20:35 |
| Sarvatt | downgrade to what? | 20:35 |
| Sarvatt | older uploads? | 20:35 |
| xrdodrx | Yes. | 20:35 |
| Sarvatt | how much older? did it start with something recent? | 20:36 |
| xrdodrx | I don't really want to get rid of Xorg-edgers, I enabled it for a reason... | 20:36 |
| Sarvatt | launchpad only stores 2 versions :( | 20:36 |
| xrdodrx | ouch | 20:36 |
| xrdodrx | much more than 2 :( | 20:36 |
| Sarvatt | xrdodrx: you may have packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ | 20:36 |
| xrdodrx | currently my X works | 20:36 |
| xrdodrx | I just don't have video accel. | 20:36 |
| Sarvatt | hmm | 20:36 |
| xrdodrx | So xfwm4 runs instead of Compiz. | 20:37 |
| xrdodrx | And I can't watch video | 20:37 |
| Sarvatt | do you see anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log that stands out? glxinfo? | 20:38 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, one question, do you have oneiric-proposed enabled? | 20:38 |
| xrdodrx | I don't think so, no. | 20:38 |
| Sarvatt | ok just making sure, was a unity update that would have killed edgers today | 20:39 |
| Sarvatt | so glxinfo says it's using software rasterizer? can ya paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log? | 20:39 |
| xrdodrx | Sure. | 20:39 |
| xrdodrx | http://pastebin.com/nZ0FjjzW | 20:40 |
| xrdodrx | ^ Xorg.0.log | 20:40 |
| Sarvatt | that looks fine | 20:41 |
| xrdodrx | Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: Software rendering detected | 20:41 |
| Sarvatt | what about glxinfo output? | 20:42 |
| xrdodrx | different than usual, I'll show you | 20:42 |
| xrdodrx | usually it says "Tungsten Graphics" | 20:42 |
| xrdodrx | http://pastebin.com/K88vfHCq | 20:42 |
| Sarvatt | ok LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo output now | 20:43 |
| xrdodrx | http://pastebin.com/RMz4QRts | 20:44 |
| Sarvatt | err pastebin only got the stdout, can you paste the top few lines at the top before the name of display: :0 part here? | 20:44 |
| xrdodrx | that's weird, I used a pipe | 20:45 |
| xrdodrx | will do manually | 20:45 |
| xrdodrx | fredrick@desktop:~$ glxinfo | 20:45 |
| xrdodrx | name of display: :0.0 | 20:45 |
| xrdodrx | There is nothing before name of display... | 20:45 |
| Sarvatt | LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo | 20:45 |
| xrdodrx | $ LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo | 20:46 |
| xrdodrx | name of display: :0.0 | 20:46 |
| xrdodrx | yeah. | 20:46 |
| xrdodrx | (I knew I had already set LIBGL_DEBUG so I just ran glxinfo again the first time, sorry) | 20:46 |
| xrdodrx | Sarvatt, I just killed X and Compiz works again. It seems to not wait long enough on a first boot, or something. | 20:48 |
| xrdodrx | Pretty odd... | 20:48 |
| xrdodrx | I'm going to attempt another reboot to see if it happens again. | 20:52 |
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