[08:00] <benoliver999> I've been poking around for a while now, and I just can't get this set of USB speakers working, no matter what I try.
[08:00] <benoliver999> I've tried pulse audio.
[08:00] <benoliver999> Alsamixer
[08:00] <benoliver999> Some other stuff
[08:00] <benoliver999> Nothing wants to swtich to them.
[08:01] <benoliver999> Bizarrely, the buttons on the speakers (mute/vol up/vol down), work perfectly... on the built in laptop speakers!
[08:01] <benoliver999> So right now I have a very large USB volume controller.
[08:03] <benoliver999> I've googled the thing to death, and I'm getting no luck. Maybe it's just a driver thing. Not tried them in Ubuntu yet.
[09:50] <beparas> Hi, I want to give my user to admin privileges for some command, how to give that
[09:54] <Wulong> chmod +s /bin/command
[09:58] <beparas> I did chmod +s /bin/mount
[09:58] <beparas> and run "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb" command it gives me error
[09:59] <beparas> mount: only root can do that
[09:59] <beparas> sdb1 is my Pendrive
[10:00] <Wulong> You know that Lbuntu autodetects and mounts these devices?
[10:00] <Wulong> It should atleast.
[10:00] <Wulong> If you ever want a regular user to use mount you will have to write this in /etc/fstab
[10:04] <beparas> I know that Lubuntu autodetevts the Pendrive, I took it as a example,
[10:06] <beparas> I want to run some admin command in my program, e.g. reboot, mount
[10:07] <beparas> I did some changes in /etc/sudoers file, but it not working,
[10:07] <Myrtti> why not just use sudo?
[10:09] <Wulong> beparas: ah, yes, sudoers is the way to go. Remember to use visudo.
[10:11] <beparas> I will ask me for passwd,  It is not comfortable for me to enter password everytime, as my programme is continously running
[10:11] <Myrtti> it asks it only every fifteen minutes or so, and you can get a root terminal if you *really* *really* want it anyway
[10:12] <bkm> but he does not want to enter a password. he wants elevated privileges on certain programs for his username.
[10:12] <beparas> @Wulong: I did some changes in sudoers: changes are, In User privilege I add following line, user1 ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[10:13] <Wulong> If it's not working then your syntax is wrong. I've had syntax errors with this many times.
[10:13] <Wulong> It's also important to use visudo and not edit sudoers manually.
[10:14] <beparas> I use visudo
[10:14] <beparas> where do I find syntax error
[10:15] <beparas> @bkm: thats I want
[10:15] <Wulong> I mean, if it's not working, you have done something wrong.
[10:16] <Wulong> username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/program
[10:16] <beparas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Enabling%20the%20root%20account, I get info form this link,
[10:17] <Wulong> You have to use "sudo /usr/bin/program" to make it work.
[10:17] <beparas> @ Wulong: I tried  user1 ALL= NOPASSWD: ALL
[10:17] <beparas> also but it didnt work
[10:19] <beparas> @Wulong: is it not possible to remove sudo when entering the command
[10:19] <Wulong> No
[10:19] <beparas> ok
[10:19] <Wulong> sudo checks in sudoers if your user has nopasswd access.
[10:21] <beparas> ok, Thanks for the information
[10:21] <beparas> :)
[10:22] <beparas> one more question, If I want to run my program at boot time, which file I have to edit for it
[10:23] <Wulong> If it's your X11-user then you put it inside ~/.config/autostart/
[10:24] <Wulong> If not you should make a startup script in /etc/init.d/ maybe
[10:24] <Wulong> I often tend to use crontab
[10:33] <beparas> If I copy my program at /etc/init.d/ but, whom is going to start it at booting time
[10:34] <beparas> Is there any file where I have to say start this progam
[10:34] <Myrtti> ...
[10:34] <Myrtti> this sounds a bit like you've skinned the catch before having caught it
[10:35] <Wulong> Read about it.
[10:35] <Myrtti> if you want it to start when the system starts, you don't need to break the whole concept of sudo and user priviledge escalation Ubuntu has in place just for that
[10:37] <Myrtti> if you had asked the whole question "I have a program I need to start at boot with root priviledges" instead of "I need to run this with root priviledges without root password, oh and can I make it run at boot", it would have been easier to help
[10:39] <beparas> @Myrtti: you are right I have a program I need to start at boot with root priviledges.
[10:40] <Myrtti> beparas: good luck with that.
[10:40] <beparas> This is the first time I am using IRC so Little bit confused
[10:47] <AlanBell> morning all
[10:47]  * AlanBell reads back to figure out what beparas is up to
[10:49] <AlanBell> what kind of program is it beparas? I am confused
[10:52] <AlanBell> is it a gui program or a command line thing?
[10:52] <beparas> In the program I check for Pendrive is connected, if it connected then copy some data file form pendrive to PC,
[10:52] <beparas> It is command line program
[10:52] <beparas> It must be start when system start
[10:53] <beparas> and it run continuously in while(1)
[10:54] <beparas> So In my program when I run mount command it gives me wright error
[10:55] <beparas> don't have permission to run mount command
[10:56] <beparas> As this program is started at boot time, so It is not possible to enter passwd
[10:56] <AlanBell> ok, make sure the program isn't at 100% cpu all the time just spinning
[10:56] <AlanBell> that will use loads of power and slow things down
[10:57] <AlanBell> !runlevels
[10:57] <AlanBell> !upstart
[10:57] <beparas> no I use sleep in it
[10:57] <AlanBell> you can have an upstart job to run your daemon at boot time, that will run as root normally
[10:57] <AlanBell> even better, make it a udev script
[10:57] <AlanBell> !udev
[10:58] <AlanBell> http://hackaday.com/2009/09/18/how-to-write-udev-rules/
[10:58] <beparas> I am using Lubuntu 11.04
[10:59] <AlanBell> then you can have your application auto run when you insert the USB device you want it to run with
[11:00] <AlanBell> I don't think it really matters what desktop environment you are using for this, it is all low level stuff
[11:01] <beparas> ok
[11:01] <AlanBell> also, this sounds very similar to stuff like copying photos off a camera
[11:02] <AlanBell> http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#external-run
[11:02] <beparas> In my case I am copying *.jpg file from Pendrive to PC
[11:03] <AlanBell> yeah, that is a pretty standard use-case for this
[11:03] <AlanBell> udev is the right way to do it
[11:08] <AlanBell> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbDriveDoSomethingHowto
[11:09] <beparas> Thank you very much
[11:11] <beparas> I have one quiry, How to detect the type of USB device, whether it is Storage device, USB Bluetooth adapter, USB modem
[11:14] <beparas> I use this entry to read device node /proc/scsi/usb-stroge/
[11:15] <kvarley> How can I extract the contents of a subfolder to the folder which I am running the tar command from?
[11:17] <AlanBell> beparas: that is a good question, I think udev sets some environment variables for your program to look at
[11:18] <beparas> ok
[11:19] <head_victim> Ah I'm too slow, was going to point out http://cafuego.net/2007/11/11/time-machine-kinda
[11:19] <head_victim> More reading if you're interested though.
[11:19] <AlanBell> you are checking for SUBSYSTEM=='block' I think
[13:08] <ryannathans> after changing cloned mac address to connect to a wifi network it never connects
[13:08] <ryannathans> connects fine with the box left empty though
[13:10] <ryannathans> i keep getting deauthenticated according to dmesg
[19:48] <Aleski> Could I get some help with running/installing Lubuntu?
[19:49] <holstein> sure... you have the ISO downloaded Aleski ?
[19:50] <Aleski> Yeah. I've loaded it on a USB and upon boot it stays on a "ubuntu$" command line-esque thing. It's been a recurring problem with several Ubuntu deviations.
[19:51] <jmarsden> Aleski: Do you know what video card your machine has?  Also, try typing     startlubuntu   at that prompt
[19:53] <Aleski> I tried startlubuntu and it pretty much does nothing. I believe my netbook's video card is an Intel-something, but it's factory made so give me a second to look it up.
[19:54] <Aleski> Intel GMA 500.
[19:55] <holstein> Aleski: how about startx
[19:55] <holstein> is it "pretty much" nothing? or nothing?
[19:56] <Aleski> It did something (startx) , but whatever it was, it definitely wasn't a GUI.
[19:57] <holstein> i think the graphics card is not a bad route to go thought http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746934 makes me think it should work
[19:58] <holstein> if it were my box, i would try something like knoppix live... sometimes i grab xorg.conf files from knoppix
[19:58] <Aleski> Knoppix...?
[19:58] <holstein> http://www.knoppix.com/
[19:59] <Aleski> So there's no way I can use lubuntu without a lot of editing?
[19:59] <holstein> knoppix is just a really good live CD.. i would want to see *any* linux boot on the hardware.. then i could poke around and learn whats going on and see what the deal is
[19:59] <holstein> Aleski: srue
[19:59] <holstein> sure*
[19:59] <holstein> if you havent tested the iso image download sum, thats a good place to start
[20:00] <Aleski> I'm trying to make this as simple as it can be. I wouldn't have a clue how to do that.
[20:00] <jmarsden> Aleski: The GMA500 is mot one I'm familiar with, but some Intel chipsets do seem to have "issues" with X drivers.  Sounds like it is going to be fiddly to get Lubuntu to run on that machine, basically.
[20:00] <Aleski> I do believe I got 11.04 to run once, but it's not ideal due to limited space and computing power.
[20:01] <Aleski> Anything similar to lubuntu in the sense of power and space consumption?
[20:01] <holstein> Aleski: lets try and test with definites in mind.. trouble-shoot and make notes.. know for sure... otherwise, its just an assumption
[20:01] <Unit193> Ubuntu has problems with that one, but someone built the testing version of Ubuntu with support http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/ubuntu-gma500-live-cd/
[20:02] <jmarsden> Aleski: You may be able to write a custom xorg.conf file and get X working that way, but you need to be willing to play... ah, use Unit193's link :)
[20:03] <Unit193> That's 12.04 Ubuntu, but you should be able to do a !purelxde on it :P
[20:03] <Aleski> So I could replace the xorg.conf in my already prepared lubuntu or should I go for that one?
[20:03] <holstein> Aleski: you likely wont have one.. you can put one in place though
[20:06] <Aleski> 12.04 wasn't exactly what I was looking for...
[20:06] <Myrtti> you were looking for stability?
[20:06] <Myrtti> :-P
[20:07] <Aleski> Yes, and speed. 11.04 was horrible enough for me.
[20:07] <Unit193> I figured may as well give it as an option though
[20:07] <Myrtti> Aleski: it is a dev version, I wouldn't expect miracles from it yet
[20:08] <holstein> what was horrible about 11.04? i would expect performance to be similar
[20:08] <Aleski> It's just bad for a netbook like mine.
[20:08] <Aleski> Then again, so is everything else.
[20:08] <holstein> 11.04 is bad for a netbook?
[20:08] <Aleski> Yes.
[20:08] <Wulong> GMA500 is some crap. I have it in my fit-pc. You'll find how-to threads on this.
[20:08] <holstein> yeah, its the intel graphics chip
[20:08] <Wulong> No, it's not Intels work.
[20:09] <holstein> Wulong: what is your solution?
[20:09] <Aleski> GMA is really, really bad. The only OS I can find suitable is, well, XP, but I broke my hard drive so yeah
[20:09] <holstein> well, its labeled intel.. thats all i know
[20:09] <Wulong> It is. Intel bought it from another firm.
[20:09] <Wulong> holstein: hold on, I'll find my blog post.
[20:09] <holstein> Aleski: i actually run several linux's with no issue
[20:10] <holstein> Aleski: i just have different GMA's... i have used normal ubuntu 10.04... 10.10.. 11.04... debian ..whatever
[20:10] <Aleski> I'm saying that when it did, it wasn't nearly as smooth.
[20:10] <holstein> i would just choose the version you want to run, and tweak it as Wulong is about to suggest
[20:10] <Wulong> Imagination Technologies made GMA500
[20:11] <Wulong> http://vegard.hammerseth.com/2011/05/fit-pc-2-as-htpc-using-l-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/ this is my post on "the" subject
[20:11] <Wulong> Otherwise use; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gma500/emgd
[20:12] <Aleski> Not really looking to buy a pc if that's what you're suggesting
[20:12] <Aleski> Interesting article, though.
[20:12] <holstein> Aleski: the hardware Wulong is referencing is the same as yours
[20:12] <holstein> so the procedure will help you get support for your device
[20:12] <holstein> the current one you are using
[20:13] <Aleski> I have to do all this from the command line?
[20:13] <holstein> Aleski: you dont have x right?
[20:14] <Aleski> How would I even know that...?
[20:14] <Wulong> X (X11) is the graphical interface.
[20:14] <Aleski> It's not running, I guess.
[20:14] <holstein> Aleski: i know this might be frustrating.. and it sucks when hardware is not supported, but let us know what you need help with
[20:14] <Aleski> Which I assume everything above 11.04 uses
[20:15] <holstein> from the command line, if you are online, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gma500/emgd will add a repositor to help give you access to packages that better support your hardware
[20:16] <Aleski> I can't repair it from Windows or something?
[20:16] <holstein> when you say "i have to do this from the command line" i was saying, if you dont have access to X, that will be your only option
[20:16] <holstein> Aleski: you see at Wulong 's really nice post?.. there are 4 lines basically that will help you
[20:17] <Aleski> Just those four?
[20:17] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812273/
[20:18] <holstein> then, if it were me, i would test and then try adding Wulong
[20:18] <holstein> 's xorg.conf if needed
[20:18] <Aleski> So, reboot with an ethernet connection, and enter these commands?
[20:18] <holstein> Aleski: that would be what i would call step one... then you can go from there
[20:18] <holstein> its nice that Wulong has that hardware, and has made that post, and is willing to share... that is your best resource
[20:20] <Aleski> There isn't any way I can edit the ISO instead of doing this manually?
[20:20] <Wulong> This can be tricky if you are not used CLI before, because GMA500 is the worst hardware I've ever dealt with in my decade of Linux experience.
[20:20] <holstein> sure, but that would be *way* more challening
[20:20] <Wulong> Aleski: you probably can edit the ISO, but I wouldn't know were to start.
[20:21] <Wulong> However, computlab has an ISO for fit-pc which fixes this.
[20:21] <Wulong> It might work for your computer.
[20:21] <Aleski> It's 11.04 right?
[20:21] <holstein> Wulong: did you try the vesa driver?
[20:22] <Wulong> Another approach would be to google "ubuntu <and your computers name>" to follow someone elses recipie.
[20:22] <Wulong> Aleski: I think so. You find it at compulabs pages.
[20:22] <Wulong> holstein: I tried mesa, but it sucks, as usual.
[20:23] <Wulong> This emgd driver I use today works, but I'm not happy with it.
[20:23] <holstein> for video playback?
[20:24] <Wulong> Yes, it has trouble with full HD.
[20:24] <Aleski> That's if to say the GMA could play HD in the first place
[20:25] <Wulong> I know it can.
[20:25] <Aleski> 500?
[20:25] <Wulong> Yes
[20:25] <Wulong> GMA500 worked fine until there was a new linux kernel which broke the driver dependencies or something like that.
[20:25] <Aleski> Huh. Never ran so hot in fullscreen for me.
[20:26] <Wulong> Well, Windows is greedy, but thats another subject.
[20:27] <Wulong> Anyways, after this happend, Intel refused (by license) to release the code or update the driver sufficient.
[20:27] <Aleski> Would Xbuntu work or would I suffer the same issues?
[20:28] <Unit193> Xubuntu is the same at the core
[20:28] <Wulong> Same issue.
[20:28] <Unit193> Wulong: Do you know at what kernel/Ubuntu version?
[20:28] <Aleski> at what kernel
[20:29] <Wulong> I think it broke in 9.10, so 9.04 should be fine.
[20:29] <Wulong> I can check.
[20:29] <Unit193> Doesn't matter, that's well past EOL :/
[20:29] <Aleski> Just something that I can have a GUI on, and runs sufficiently, preferably better then the official distros
[20:33] <Wulong> The info has been removed, but I slightly recall 9.10 being the last working version.
[20:34] <Aleski> Of Xbuntu?
[20:34] <Wulong> All of them.
[20:34] <Wulong> The first letters of the *buntus only describe desktop enviroment.
[20:35] <Aleski> Ah, okay.
[20:37] <Aleski> Can you believe my netbook came pre-installed with Vista Basic?
[20:40] <Wulong> Sure. It's how they do it.
[20:41] <Wulong> They sell you crap so you have to buy new.
[20:41] <Wulong> More money in their pockets.