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trimetaIs there a single command to remove a named PPA, as there is to add one?01:42
trimeta(I'm on Lucid.)01:42
trimetaApparently add-apt-repository doesn't support the --remove option on this version...01:45
trimetaAnd I don't know if I want to grab ppa-purge...do people here have experience with it?01:46
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osmosisi just did a sudo apt-get upgrade, and it wants to download a   python-lazr.restfulclient  . How can I figure out what depends on this, not sure why I have it.04:21
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eagles0513875!bugzilla13:08
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pkugHi there! I'm experiencing problems with Slim (also XDM) and Consolekit, XSession seems to start consolekit session but it's inactive and non-local.. anybody else had this ? can it be a permission problem ?13:13
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eagles0513875hey guys has anyone in here installed bugzilla3 on ubuntu before know where the default bugzilla files are setup so i can create a vhost?13:33
jeeves_mosshow can I fix this error that keeps popping up on my Bind install?  "validating @0x21d4cc78: dlv.isc.org DNSKEY: must be secure failure,  . is under DLV (startfinddlvsep)"17:27
piercedwaterdoes anyone know how i can rsync by file modification date?17:33
b930913Server is complaining of not having enough free space - it's using 100% of 10GB out of 750GB. Any idea what's wrong?17:42
undriedseaWhen creating a SW RAID4 using mdadm, is it possible to specify which disk should be the parity disk?18:32
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zastaphhow come virt-manager in apt-get for ubuntu server LTS is only 0.8.2 not the latest 0.9.0.. is there something I can do to make it the latest version without having to build it myself?18:41
qman__undriedsea, raid 4 is obsolete and should not be used, use raid 5 instead18:42
undriedseaqman_, I do not see that reflected in the man page. Have the maintainers indicated it is obsolete?18:43
qman__undriedsea, not in terms of the software, just in general, raid 5 performs better and offers equal protection18:44
undriedseaI want to use an SSD for my parity drive. I have heard this type of RAID4 blows RAID5 away as in has almost the same performance as RAID018:44
qman__the parity drive must be the same size as all the other drives18:45
undriedseaAfter all a RAID 4 is a RAID0 array with a parity disk.18:45
undriedseaI realize that, 600 GB SAS disks for data members and Enterprise SSD for parity disk18:45
undriedseaI just can't seem to find in the docs how to specify the parity disk18:46
qman__I guess that would work, but I haven't heard of it before18:47
undriedseaI read a paper in ACM sigops where a researcher was doing it and got good results18:47
uvirtbotNew bug: #919730 in samba (main) "Access network with windows 7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91973020:04
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nancy---how do i find a vps for  $10 /month        with root access. any ideas?21:05
jmarsdennancy---: This is not a Ubuntu server question... anyway, I have no idea if they are any good, but Google finds me one at http://www.webkeepers.com/vps/vps_basic.html21:08
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RoyKnancy---: amazon?21:16
RoyKnancy---: rackspace is rather cheap too21:17
nancy---RoyK,  reliable too ?21:23
qman__cost and reliablility, more or less, directly correlate21:24
nancy---qman__,  some are well managed in that sense21:25
nancy---RoyK,  rackspace is hosting not vps21:26
jmarsdennancy---: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/servers/pricing/ -- "cloud servers" are VPSes21:32
jmarsdenBut it is $10.95/mo + bandwidth, not $10 total... so technically over budget for you.21:32
nancy---jmarsden,  hm. fdcservers.net if reliable will do..21:45
Cromulentnancy---: I'd raise your budget and go with Linode if I were you21:45
CueI seem to be having a rather problematic issue with, well, anything that isn't RSA based login or direct console login in Ubuntu 11.10 Server. Nothing will auth using passwords.21:45
nancy---Cromulent,  really ? linode is so popular...21:46
CueJan 21 21:38:30 luna sudo: pam_unix(sudo:auth): conversation failed <- this is filling my auth.log21:46
Cue(yes, this is a fresh install, twice actually)21:47
nancy---Cromulent,  why would you go with linode?21:48
Cromulentnancy---: because I have been with them since october 2010 and have not had any problems with them at all - plus they also have a very good reputation21:48
nancy---hm21:48
nancy---Cromulent,  when you signup for a vps. and fil forms and card details. you get an email about the order and your id. how long you have to wait till you get the login id ?21:49
Cromulentnancy---: for me it was instant but it depends on whether they need to check out your credit details21:50
Cromulentnancy---: best to ask them that question if you send them an email21:50
nancy---Cromulent,  it has been 12hrs since i send them email and they just replied " do you have a paypal account for further varification" ?21:52
nancy---i said no21:52
nancy---Cromulent,  the amount has been credited from my bank at the time i signed the form. by the way. so why so much delay. is it normal?21:53
Cromulentnancy---: no idea - you'll have to speak to them about that - I can only say what my experience has been with them21:54
nancy---i see21:54
nancy---well . they dont have a live chat eaither.....21:55
nancy---Cromulent,  i plan to resell hosting to teenagers. and make their pages for free (small ones)         good idea??21:56
* nancy--- ahem22:06
RoyKerhmem22:07
nancy---tell me a business that i can do with  my vps........... :(22:08
RoyKkids should make their own pages (imho)22:08
Cue^ most do22:08
uvirtbotCue: Error: "most" is not a valid command.22:08
nancy---ill host them.22:08
CueAnd most know someone who has web hosting too. :x22:08
nancy---ill offer without making them ask :)22:09
Psi-JackDoes anyone happen to know if there's a possability of running conntrackd along with an LVS director would provide any benefits? I'm not sure because of the funky magic ipvsadm does with directing traffic and all.22:10
nancy---tell me a business that i can do with  my vps........... :(22:11
Psi-Jackpatdk-lap: You might know. ;)22:11
Patrickdkpsijack, you should know that answer22:16
Patrickdkthere is no need to run conntrackd on a lvs director22:17
Patrickdkcause conntrack doesn't work with lvs22:17
Psi-JackOKay. I didn't /think/ so. :)22:17
Psi-JackBut, I wanted to be sure.22:17
Patrickdknow running it on your firewall, sure22:17
Psi-JackOh yeah, already am. ;)22:17
Patrickdkthat way when your firewall failover, it's in sync22:17
Psi-JackI'm rebuilding all my LVS directors and Firewalls using Ubuntu 11.10 server, which will become 12.04 LTS when it's out.22:17
PatrickdkI'm waiting till 12.04.222:18
Psi-Jackhehe22:18
Patrickdkor atleast22:18
Psi-JackI'll go with 12.04.1 when it's ready, which means 2-3 months after release. ;)22:18
Patrickdkby the time it comes out, and we figure out how to overcome any issues with it, and then have time to do the upgrades22:18
Patrickdk12.04.2 will be out :)22:18
Psi-Jackheh22:19
Psi-JackThat early, nahhh22:19
Patrickdkworked for 10.0422:19
Psi-Jackheh22:19
Psi-JackWell, still. I'm going from using openSUSE 11.4 firewalls, and Debian 6.0.3 directors.22:20
Psi-JackGetting away from Debian because pacemaker 1.0 STILL, and bugs in the ldirectord package that hasn't been fixed, still.22:20
Psi-JackThat, and Ubuntu boots up like snappy fast.22:21
Psi-JackGreat for my VM cluster. :)22:21
PatrickdkI have several win7 iscsi boot installs now, those are nice22:25
Psi-Jackheh.22:26
* Cue wonders if 12.10 will be out by the time he works out what's up with his server installs :S22:30
Psi-Jackheh22:30
Psi-JackShould see my entire home-based server infrastructure. LOL22:30
CuePsi-Jack: At least your fresh installs aren't suffering from failed PAM auths :S22:32
Psi-JackNope.22:32
CueLiterally spawned 2 VMs from the server ISO, neither of them allow me to login via SSH unless I use pub/priv keys, and sudo doesn't work. Sudo only fails in SSHd though, if I VNC into the VM it's absolutely fine22:33
Cue(Webmin login dies too ;_;)22:33
Psi-JackInteresting.22:33
Psi-JackI dunno. I logged in via VNC to the "console" directly, did aptitude upgrade, before even SSHing in.22:36
RoyKCue: what's wrong?22:39
Cuehttp://pastebin.com/kfJBHv8E22:40
CueI can login if I use the local console, but not over SSH. Sudo fails if password required as well, as does Webmin22:41
RoyKCue: from what client_22:50
RoyK?22:50
guntbert!webmin | Cue22:50
ubottuCue: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.22:50
RoyKguntbert: I thought Cue, in this situation, was a nick...22:51
Cueubottu: This has never been an issue before, one VM doesn't have it installed and I have it on 2 other boxes without a single issue.22:59
ubottuCue: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:59
Cue... hm23:00
CueRoyK: PuTTY23:00
CueBut I get the same problem using raw ssh -v ...23:00
CueI don't use Webmin for much really, mainly monitoring and Bind clustering23:01
RoyKCue: I've seen issues like that with putty23:14
RoyKCue: try from another *nix machine23:14
CueRoyK: I did23:36
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macnixanyone care to explain what privileges does a user need to have to access /proc/self/net ?23:56
macnixroot can read /proc/self/net/dev fine, but not the user under which the monitoring agent runs23:57

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