[01:42] <trimeta> Is there a single command to remove a named PPA, as there is to add one?
[01:42] <trimeta> (I'm on Lucid.)
[01:45] <trimeta> Apparently add-apt-repository doesn't support the --remove option on this version...
[01:46] <trimeta> And I don't know if I want to grab ppa-purge...do people here have experience with it?
[04:21] <osmosis> i just did a sudo apt-get upgrade, and it wants to download a   python-lazr.restfulclient  . How can I figure out what depends on this, not sure why I have it.
[13:08] <eagles0513875> !bugzilla
[13:13] <pkug> Hi there! I'm experiencing problems with Slim (also XDM) and Consolekit, XSession seems to start consolekit session but it's inactive and non-local.. anybody else had this ? can it be a permission problem ?
[13:33] <eagles0513875> hey guys has anyone in here installed bugzilla3 on ubuntu before know where the default bugzilla files are setup so i can create a vhost?
[17:27] <jeeves_moss> how can I fix this error that keeps popping up on my Bind install?  "validating @0x21d4cc78: dlv.isc.org DNSKEY: must be secure failure,  . is under DLV (startfinddlvsep)"
[17:33] <piercedwater> does anyone know how i can rsync by file modification date?
[17:42] <b930913> Server is complaining of not having enough free space - it's using 100% of 10GB out of 750GB. Any idea what's wrong?
[18:32] <undriedsea> When creating a SW RAID4 using mdadm, is it possible to specify which disk should be the parity disk?
[18:41] <zastaph> how come virt-manager in apt-get for ubuntu server LTS is only 0.8.2 not the latest 0.9.0.. is there something I can do to make it the latest version without having to build it myself?
[18:42] <qman__> undriedsea, raid 4 is obsolete and should not be used, use raid 5 instead
[18:43] <undriedsea> qman_, I do not see that reflected in the man page. Have the maintainers indicated it is obsolete?
[18:44] <qman__> undriedsea, not in terms of the software, just in general, raid 5 performs better and offers equal protection
[18:44] <undriedsea> I want to use an SSD for my parity drive. I have heard this type of RAID4 blows RAID5 away as in has almost the same performance as RAID0
[18:45] <qman__> the parity drive must be the same size as all the other drives
[18:45] <undriedsea> After all a RAID 4 is a RAID0 array with a parity disk.
[18:45] <undriedsea> I realize that, 600 GB SAS disks for data members and Enterprise SSD for parity disk
[18:46] <undriedsea> I just can't seem to find in the docs how to specify the parity disk
[18:47] <qman__> I guess that would work, but I haven't heard of it before
[18:47] <undriedsea> I read a paper in ACM sigops where a researcher was doing it and got good results
[21:05] <nancy---> how do i find a vps for  $10 /month        with root access. any ideas?
[21:08] <jmarsden> nancy---: This is not a Ubuntu server question... anyway, I have no idea if they are any good, but Google finds me one at http://www.webkeepers.com/vps/vps_basic.html
[21:16] <RoyK> nancy---: amazon?
[21:17] <RoyK> nancy---: rackspace is rather cheap too
[21:23] <nancy---> RoyK,  reliable too ?
[21:24] <qman__> cost and reliablility, more or less, directly correlate
[21:25] <nancy---> qman__,  some are well managed in that sense
[21:26] <nancy---> RoyK,  rackspace is hosting not vps
[21:32] <jmarsden> nancy---: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/servers/pricing/ -- "cloud servers" are VPSes
[21:32] <jmarsden> But it is $10.95/mo + bandwidth, not $10 total... so technically over budget for you.
[21:45] <nancy---> jmarsden,  hm. fdcservers.net if reliable will do..
[21:45] <Cromulent> nancy---: I'd raise your budget and go with Linode if I were you
[21:45] <Cue> I seem to be having a rather problematic issue with, well, anything that isn't RSA based login or direct console login in Ubuntu 11.10 Server. Nothing will auth using passwords.
[21:46] <nancy---> Cromulent,  really ? linode is so popular...
[21:46] <Cue> Jan 21 21:38:30 luna sudo: pam_unix(sudo:auth): conversation failed <- this is filling my auth.log
[21:47] <Cue> (yes, this is a fresh install, twice actually)
[21:48] <nancy---> Cromulent,  why would you go with linode?
[21:48] <Cromulent> nancy---: because I have been with them since october 2010 and have not had any problems with them at all - plus they also have a very good reputation
[21:48] <nancy---> hm
[21:49] <nancy---> Cromulent,  when you signup for a vps. and fil forms and card details. you get an email about the order and your id. how long you have to wait till you get the login id ?
[21:50] <Cromulent> nancy---: for me it was instant but it depends on whether they need to check out your credit details
[21:50] <Cromulent> nancy---: best to ask them that question if you send them an email
[21:52] <nancy---> Cromulent,  it has been 12hrs since i send them email and they just replied " do you have a paypal account for further varification" ?
[21:52] <nancy---> i said no
[21:53] <nancy---> Cromulent,  the amount has been credited from my bank at the time i signed the form. by the way. so why so much delay. is it normal?
[21:54] <Cromulent> nancy---: no idea - you'll have to speak to them about that - I can only say what my experience has been with them
[21:54] <nancy---> i see
[21:55] <nancy---> well . they dont have a live chat eaither.....
[21:56] <nancy---> Cromulent,  i plan to resell hosting to teenagers. and make their pages for free (small ones)         good idea??
[22:06]  * nancy--- ahem
[22:07] <RoyK> erhmem
[22:08] <nancy---> tell me a business that i can do with  my vps........... :(
[22:08] <RoyK> kids should make their own pages (imho)
[22:08] <Cue> ^ most do
[22:08] <nancy---> ill host them.
[22:08] <Cue> And most know someone who has web hosting too. :x
[22:09] <nancy---> ill offer without making them ask :)
[22:10] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone happen to know if there's a possability of running conntrackd along with an LVS director would provide any benefits? I'm not sure because of the funky magic ipvsadm does with directing traffic and all.
[22:11] <nancy---> tell me a business that i can do with  my vps........... :(
[22:11] <Psi-Jack> patdk-lap: You might know. ;)
[22:16] <Patrickdk> psijack, you should know that answer
[22:17] <Patrickdk> there is no need to run conntrackd on a lvs director
[22:17] <Patrickdk> cause conntrack doesn't work with lvs
[22:17] <Psi-Jack> OKay. I didn't /think/ so. :)
[22:17] <Psi-Jack> But, I wanted to be sure.
[22:17] <Patrickdk> now running it on your firewall, sure
[22:17] <Psi-Jack> Oh yeah, already am. ;)
[22:17] <Patrickdk> that way when your firewall failover, it's in sync
[22:17] <Psi-Jack> I'm rebuilding all my LVS directors and Firewalls using Ubuntu 11.10 server, which will become 12.04 LTS when it's out.
[22:18] <Patrickdk> I'm waiting till 12.04.2
[22:18] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[22:18] <Patrickdk> or atleast
[22:18] <Psi-Jack> I'll go with 12.04.1 when it's ready, which means 2-3 months after release. ;)
[22:18] <Patrickdk> by the time it comes out, and we figure out how to overcome any issues with it, and then have time to do the upgrades
[22:18] <Patrickdk> 12.04.2 will be out :)
[22:19] <Psi-Jack> heh
[22:19] <Psi-Jack> That early, nahhh
[22:19] <Patrickdk> worked for 10.04
[22:19] <Psi-Jack> heh
[22:20] <Psi-Jack> Well, still. I'm going from using openSUSE 11.4 firewalls, and Debian 6.0.3 directors.
[22:20] <Psi-Jack> Getting away from Debian because pacemaker 1.0 STILL, and bugs in the ldirectord package that hasn't been fixed, still.
[22:21] <Psi-Jack> That, and Ubuntu boots up like snappy fast.
[22:21] <Psi-Jack> Great for my VM cluster. :)
[22:25] <Patrickdk> I have several win7 iscsi boot installs now, those are nice
[22:26] <Psi-Jack> heh.
[22:30]  * Cue wonders if 12.10 will be out by the time he works out what's up with his server installs :S
[22:30] <Psi-Jack> heh
[22:30] <Psi-Jack> Should see my entire home-based server infrastructure. LOL
[22:32] <Cue> Psi-Jack: At least your fresh installs aren't suffering from failed PAM auths :S
[22:32] <Psi-Jack> Nope.
[22:33] <Cue> Literally spawned 2 VMs from the server ISO, neither of them allow me to login via SSH unless I use pub/priv keys, and sudo doesn't work. Sudo only fails in SSHd though, if I VNC into the VM it's absolutely fine
[22:33] <Cue> (Webmin login dies too ;_;)
[22:33] <Psi-Jack> Interesting.
[22:36] <Psi-Jack> I dunno. I logged in via VNC to the "console" directly, did aptitude upgrade, before even SSHing in.
[22:39] <RoyK> Cue: what's wrong?
[22:40] <Cue> http://pastebin.com/kfJBHv8E
[22:41] <Cue> I can login if I use the local console, but not over SSH. Sudo fails if password required as well, as does Webmin
[22:50] <RoyK> Cue: from what client_
[22:50] <RoyK> ?
[22:50] <guntbert> !webmin | Cue
[22:51] <RoyK> guntbert: I thought Cue, in this situation, was a nick...
[22:59] <Cue> ubottu: This has never been an issue before, one VM doesn't have it installed and I have it on 2 other boxes without a single issue.
[23:00] <Cue> ... hm
[23:00] <Cue> RoyK: PuTTY
[23:00] <Cue> But I get the same problem using raw ssh -v ...
[23:01] <Cue> I don't use Webmin for much really, mainly monitoring and Bind clustering
[23:14] <RoyK> Cue: I've seen issues like that with putty
[23:14] <RoyK> Cue: try from another *nix machine
[23:36] <Cue> RoyK: I did
[23:56] <macnix> anyone care to explain what privileges does a user need to have to access /proc/self/net ?
[23:57] <macnix> root can read /proc/self/net/dev fine, but not the user under which the monitoring agent runs