| ali1234 | Azelphur: since you are USB battery pack expert... do they pass through usb data? | 00:31 |
|---|---|---|
| Azelphur | I'm a what now? | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | like if you plug it into a PC to charge | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | xD | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | and then plug a phone into the device port | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | does the PC see the phone? | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | Very unlikely | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | I can check, but I doubt it | 00:31 |
| ali1234 | well you have one... didn;t you try it? | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | no because I don't use it for my phone? | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | xD | 00:31 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: nope it doesn't | 00:33 |
| ali1234 | ok thanks | 00:33 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Community Team Goings On - http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/01/21/community-team-goings-on/ | 02:14 |
| optim8 | Hello | 08:36 |
| optim8 | ? | 08:36 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 08:55 |
| MooDoo | morning | 08:56 |
| popey | Morning | 09:28 |
| AlanBell | hullo popey | 09:28 |
| AlanBell | daubers: I think I can do dynamic files | 09:39 |
| AlanBell | as long as the filesize is at least 1 it will open, read, and check the filesize again | 09:45 |
| AlanBell | and I can report a bigger size after a read has happened and the client will read the rest of it | 09:45 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:56 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| brobostigon | i have found an android prog, that can show me tv listings, however it requires an xmltv source, any ideas, where to look? please. | 10:53 |
| kvarley | brobostigon: Can you use RSS feeds? They are still technically XML | 10:57 |
| kvarley | How can I extract the contents of a subfolder to the folder which I am running the tar command from? It keeps making the subfolder in the directory that I run the tar command from when I just want the contents from the subfolder, not the subfolder itself. | 10:58 |
| brobostigon | kvarley: no idea, it only specifies xmltv input source. | 10:58 |
| Myrtti | have your computer generate one for you? | 11:06 |
| Myrtti | which android prog btw? | 11:06 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: tvp. it is called. | 11:06 |
| brobostigon | generate one? how. | 11:06 |
| Myrtti | !info xmltv | 11:07 |
| lubotu3 | xmltv (source: xmltv): Functionality related to the XMLTV file format for TV listings. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.59-1 (oneiric), package size 17 kB, installed size 244 kB | 11:07 |
| Myrtti | or if not generate, then atleast that may help you get forward | 11:08 |
| Myrtti | but I'll have a look | 11:08 |
| Myrtti | once my phone wakes up from its coma | 11:08 |
| brobostigon | ok, thank you. | 11:08 |
| Myrtti | I don't see any programme called tvp on the android market, could you give me a link? | 11:09 |
| brobostigon | one minute | 11:10 |
| MartijnVdS | https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ideamats.tvplanner.android ? | 11:10 |
| brobostigon | thats it, | 11:11 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Tony] Big Blue Box - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2012/01/21/big-blue-box/ | 11:14 |
| jutnux | Morning | 11:15 |
| Myrtti | oh man, this'll take FOREVER | 11:27 |
| MartijnVdS | daubers: what was the (3d?) graphics book you got called again? | 11:28 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 11:37 |
| MartijnVdS | hi czajkowski | 11:37 |
| MooDoo | hello czajkowski | 11:37 |
| czajkowski | hw folks? | 11:38 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 11:38 |
| czajkowski | hows | 11:39 |
| czajkowski | clearly :) | 11:39 |
| AlanBell | !iphone keyboard-#ubuntu-offtopic | 11:39 |
| lubotu3 | Dear Aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all. | 11:39 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: wut? | 11:40 |
| AlanBell | factoid of the day | 11:40 |
| MartijnVdS | But sense! It makes none! | 11:41 |
| * chalcedony smiles | 11:45 | |
| Myrtti | brobostigon: http://bleb.org/tv/data/listings | 12:13 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: so i use that as the xmltv source url? | 12:15 |
| Myrtti | hold on, let me fiddle a bit more | 12:15 |
| brobostigon | ok. | 12:15 |
| brobostigon | thank you. | 12:16 |
| Myrtti | oh my dear god this app is horrible | 12:18 |
| Myrtti | can't paste an url? | 12:18 |
| Myrtti | seriously? | 12:18 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: i havent had a good play yet, i just found it, just before i spoke here. | 12:19 |
| * Neoti right off to tesco it is for FOOD!!!!!! YIPEEEEEE!!!!! | 12:24 | |
| MartijnVdS | Pfuh, who needs food | 12:26 |
| Myrtti | brobostigon: yeah, in theory if you have the patience to construct an URL with all the channels as that page instructs you should be able to get a file of the type you're looking for. | 12:29 |
| Myrtti | however I didn't have patience and I seem to be unable to refresh the channel list. | 12:30 |
| Myrtti | and the channel I did put doesn't show any listings. | 12:30 |
| MartijnVdS | you can create your own xmltv URLs by running the parsers yourself | 12:31 |
| MartijnVdS | but it's often messy | 12:31 |
| Myrtti | yes | 12:31 |
| Myrtti | so basically, you can do the same thing and host it on your own space, put it in a cronjob or something | 12:32 |
| brobostigon | ah, i see, ok. umm, let me think. | 12:32 |
| brobostigon | so i could use xmltv on my vps, to create said source, and then copy that into /var/www , and then pull that? | 12:36 |
| Myrtti | yup | 12:36 |
| brobostigon | and then as you said, create a custom cron job, to update it. | 12:37 |
| MartijnVdS | that's how mythtv does it I think | 12:38 |
| brobostigon | XMLTV requires a Date::Manip timezone of +0000 to work properly. | 12:55 |
| brobostigon | Current Date::Manip timezone is 1. | 12:55 |
| brobostigon | what does that mean? | 12:55 |
| StevenR | your xmltv listings might be an hour out? | 12:56 |
| brobostigon | i am just configuring the grabber. | 12:56 |
| brobostigon | http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/HowtoUseGrabbers | 12:56 |
| brobostigon | i am on the download data, section. | 12:57 |
| StevenR | probably need to look at reconfiguring Date::Manip | 12:58 |
| brobostigon | how do i do that? | 12:58 |
| StevenR | brobostigon: might help: http://nice3z.myfinejob.com/date-manip-unable-determine-timezone | 12:59 |
| StevenR | brobostigon: what OS and revision? | 13:02 |
| brobostigon | StevenR: 10.04.3 | 13:03 |
| jutnux | Haz bacon | 13:09 |
| StevenR | brobostigon: ah. the interweb suggests that there's a bug | 13:09 |
| brobostigon | StevenR: a solution? | 13:09 |
| StevenR | not that I could see (the offered solution was "use the debian version") | 13:10 |
| brobostigon | the debian version of that perl package? | 13:11 |
| StevenR | of xmltv | 13:12 |
| StevenR | http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software/MythTV-Date-Manip-bug.html | 13:12 |
| brobostigon | ok, thank you StevenR | 13:17 |
| AlanBell | daubers: python-fuse sucks at parsing command line arguments, but I have it working now | 13:19 |
| jacobw | hustle s8e2 \o/ | 13:22 |
| Myrtti | brobostigon: after you've run, say, tv_grab_uk_rt --configure, tv_grab_uk_rt --config-file .xmltv/tv_grab_uk_rt.conf --output tvlistings.xml --list-channels&&gzip tvlistings.xml and mv the .gz to /var/www - it probably needs to be done only once | 13:24 |
| Myrtti | I can't get it to show any listings tho | 13:25 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: ok, thank you. let me try. | 13:27 |
| Myrtti | hmmm | 13:29 |
| Myrtti | brobostigon: yeah, I'll do that as well, there's something different with the australian listings, they actually work | 13:29 |
| Myrtti | I can see why | 13:31 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| brobostigon | just need to create a crontab entry. | 13:38 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: what would you suggest as a crontab entry? | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | 0 * * * * $HOME/bin/xmltv.sh | 13:41 |
| Myrtti | did you get it to list the programmes? | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | and then in xmltv.sh put: | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | #! /bin/bash | 13:41 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: yes. | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | and the command you type to update the feed(s) | 13:41 |
| Myrtti | really? | 13:41 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: it asked me which channels i wanted, | 13:41 |
| Myrtti | and you put the file in the app in android and it worked? | 13:42 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: i am just tyring that. | 13:42 |
| Myrtti | try that before worrying about crontab | 13:42 |
| brobostigon | ok | 13:43 |
| Myrtti | because it didn't work for me | 13:44 |
| brobostigon | ok. | 13:45 |
| brobostigon | first check, that xml.gz is outside downloadable. | 13:47 |
| brobostigon | could this take a while? | 13:48 |
| Myrtti | oh man | 13:52 |
| brobostigon | Myrtti: ok. it has been going for just over ten minutes. not showing a result yet. | 13:55 |
| Myrtti | wow | 13:55 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: is it doing anything? or is it just hanging on some server that's no longer there? | 13:56 |
| MartijnVdS | (is this the android app or the downloader thing on your iInux box) | 13:56 |
| brobostigon | that xml.gz is 4k. | 13:56 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: i checked the xml.gz is accessable on my server, and it is. the android app is just hanging there, picking it up. | 13:57 |
| brobostigon | not picking* | 13:58 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: check your access.log, see if it's even tried | 13:58 |
| brobostigon | good idea. minute. | 13:58 |
| brobostigon | nope, nothing, other than my test, to get the file with chromium. | 14:00 |
| MartijnVdS | and using the web browser on the phone, does that work? | 14:00 |
| brobostigon | minute. | 14:00 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: android reports download failed. | 14:02 |
| brobostigon | weird. | 14:04 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: nothing in access.log again? | 14:07 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: let me check, but the browser can pick up my site, from apache on that same server. | 14:08 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: it could be related to the .gz part and Apache trying to be smart | 14:08 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: it is showing android trying to get the .xml.gz in access.log | 14:09 |
| brobostigon | working, weird, just restarted android. | 14:10 |
| MartijnVdS | stränge.. wifi vs 3g? | 14:12 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: ok, it has the listings, however they are empty. | 14:12 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: wifi. | 14:12 |
| brobostigon | i mean Myrtti, | 14:13 |
| brobostigon | sorry. | 14:13 |
| * brobostigon returns with beer in hand. | 15:19 | |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 15:26 |
| * MartijnVdS sticks to tea for now | 15:26 | |
| brobostigon | :) | 15:26 |
| * Neoti mack from tesco with a mighty feast and a freezer full of foody goodness..... Victory! | 15:27 | |
| * brobostigon puts ST TUC on. | 15:28 | |
| brobostigon | ie, ST6. | 15:28 |
| MartijnVdS | Ugh Klingons :) | 15:29 |
| brobostigon | TOS's idea of a cold war theme. | 15:29 |
| brobostigon | as nimoy put it, | 15:29 |
| MartijnVdS | yes, that | 15:29 |
| MartijnVdS | 's obvious | 15:30 |
| brobostigon | yes :) | 15:30 |
| * brobostigon wishes he has his good speaker connected to the tv, that he has connected to his computer. | 15:30 | |
| Neoti | hey all i would like some feedback on my blog http://phillipcooper.co.uk | 15:30 |
| brobostigon | speakers* | 15:31 |
| === gary_ is now known as Guest40632 | ||
| jacobw | Neoti: have you considered storing that information in wiki? | 16:08 |
| Neoti | hummm ... no .... i might look in to that though .... i think it would be better then a blog .... something to think about ... | 16:09 |
| jacobw | there's lots of useful information there, its just hard to navigate | 16:10 |
| Neoti | cool... i'll look in to a wiki | 16:14 |
| swat_ | evening | 16:35 |
| brobostigon | interesting how the enterprise A's engine room, looks almost exactly like that of the anterprise D. | 16:50 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: What a coincidence that they filmed TUC while TNG was running ;) | 16:52 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: exactly, :) | 16:52 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: and the ready room ,being a redress of the officers mess. i mean, the other way round. | 16:54 |
| Azelphur | The bukkit projects licensing makes me want to stab them in the face | 17:21 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: isn't Bukkit GPL? | 17:22 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: "GPL", they get mad if you submit bugfixes and tell you that plugin authors code isn't GPL licensed | 17:22 |
| Azelphur | they also allow plugins to advertise that they are licensed under whatever they want, there are software plugins licensed under the CC | 17:22 |
| * Azelphur facepalms | 17:23 | |
| MartijnVdS | ... | 17:23 |
| SuperEngineer | o/ ...& hi, peeps | 17:42 |
| MartijnVdS | howdy SuperEngineer | 17:42 |
| SuperEngineer | howdy 2u2 MartijnVdS | 17:42 |
| SuperEngineer | just posted what is probably my most heart felt tweet in ages... | 17:45 |
| SuperEngineer | "I have just had to use that microsoft OS [SatNav speedcam update]. What a relief to be back on Linux again ;)" | 17:45 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Andrew] HowTo: Pack Gtk CellRenderers vertically in a Gtk TreeView - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/howto-pack-gtk-cellrenderers-vertically-in-a-gtk-treeview/ | 18:14 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| penguin42 | https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat is very funny | 18:40 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: R.. r.. ruby? | 18:41 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: cool talk | 18:44 |
| penguin42 | yeh | 18:47 |
| * MartijnVdS wants more now | 18:47 | |
| grogoreo | hi | 18:49 |
| grogoreo | On my home network I would like others on it to be able to use my hostname instead of IP. How can I set this up? | 18:50 |
| directhex | grogoreo, all running linux/mac? | 18:51 |
| grogoreo | linux/windows | 18:51 |
| grogoreo | is it a case of routing my hostname and IP in /etc/hosts? | 18:52 |
| directhex | grogoreo, that's a bruteforce method of doing it. every host needs their /etc/hosts updated to know about every other machine | 18:53 |
| directhex | on windows, that's c:\system32\drivers\etc\hosts | 18:53 |
| directhex | bit ugly really | 18:53 |
| penguin42 | grogoreo: You should find from Linux you should be able to use name.local automatically with no change | 18:53 |
| directhex | otherwise, you have three self-configuring options | 18:53 |
| directhex | first is mdns-sd. on linux, you can contact a machine via "machinename.local" | 18:54 |
| directhex | e.g. "ssh desire.local" works on this network. this is set out of the box on linux | 18:54 |
| directhex | and on mac | 18:54 |
| directhex | for windows you need an mdns-sd daemon... apple's bonjour for windows is an option there | 18:54 |
| MartijnVdS | My router takes the DHCP-supplied hostname and adds it to its local DNS server | 18:55 |
| directhex | option 2 is using wins, i.e. using the windows fileshare protocol for name resolution. it's a bit hairy, but it allows you to contact machines in the same windows workgroup by name only | 18:55 |
| directhex | that'd be even better IF it works. very router-dependent | 18:55 |
| MartijnVdS | true | 18:55 |
| directhex | on linux, you install the windows fileshare server samba to broadcast your name, and you configure winbind support for name resolution to consume other machines' names | 18:56 |
| directhex | it can be a bit ropey though, e.g. broakage in thunderbird has been linked to wins issues | 18:56 |
| penguin42 | grogoreo: The other option is that your DSL/Cable/whatever router might have a DNS server in that you can set names on | 18:57 |
| grogoreo | right, thanks for all the info. Very helpful | 18:58 |
| directhex | oh, you could skip your router and install your own dnsmasq dhcp server, which can be configured to do what MartijnVdS described. nice & messy | 18:59 |
| Azelphur | Curiosity question, if you wanted to set up your own DNS server, where would you get the registry from? | 19:03 |
| mattt | Azelphur: say what now? | 19:06 |
| Azelphur | mattt: if you want a DNS server, surely you need a registry of all domains and what the records resolve to? | 19:07 |
| mattt | Azelphur: if you're running a caching name service, it'll just do the lookups when necessary | 19:08 |
| Azelphur | ah o.O | 19:09 |
| directhex | yep | 19:09 |
| mattt | Azelphur: you may have a configuration specifying root name servers, but that should be it i'd imagine | 19:09 |
| mattt | <-- not a dns pro | 19:10 |
| directhex | you forward requests that you can't resolve locally | 19:10 |
| Azelphur | fun | 19:10 |
| directhex | that's how your router works - i.e. 192.168.1.254 is running a DNS resolver which forwards requests to your ISP if they're not internal | 19:10 |
| mattt | and if you're running an authoritative name service, you'd need to set up glue records w/ your registrar i believe | 19:11 |
| Supermanintights | hey lads, what's the command to restart the wifi thign? | 19:45 |
| Supermanintights | it's not connecting to my wifi for some reason | 19:45 |
| nothingspecial | sudo service networking restart | 19:49 |
| nothingspecial | ? | 19:49 |
| Supermanintights | i remember it being something different - wific or something like that | 19:49 |
| Supermanintights | but can't think what it was | 19:49 |
| MartijnVdS | networkmanager maybe | 19:50 |
| Supermanintights | it's not my day with computers - i can't log into betfair or anything right now | 19:50 |
| popey | sudo service network-manager restart | 19:50 |
| Supermanintights | cheers popey | 19:50 |
| Supermanintights | still not connecting wirelessly which is annoying | 19:51 |
| popey | did it used to work and now doesn't? | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | i don't want to restart as it means playing with the extender again which takes a while | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | yeah | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | never had a problem | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | only today | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | just tried to connect for ages | 19:51 |
| penguin42 | does network manager still show the wireless device and the networks? | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | then came up with the password bar | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | sure | 19:51 |
| Supermanintights | it's exactly how it should be | 19:52 |
| Supermanintights | only it won't connect, tries for 5 minutes then shows the password bar | 19:52 |
| penguin42 | could look at /var/log/wpa-supplicant (something like that) | 19:52 |
| Supermanintights | (password definitely correct - tested it on iphone and galaxy note) | 19:52 |
| nothingspecial | Supermanintights, sometimes unloading and reloading the wireless module helps | 19:52 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: /var/log/syslog | 19:52 |
| MartijnVdS | or just restarting the machine | 19:52 |
| Supermanintights | i'd only just restarted to get to this point | 19:52 |
| Supermanintights | ok | 19:52 |
| MartijnVdS | if that doesn't fix it, it's probably something wrong at the wifi router end | 19:52 |
| Supermanintights | i'll try a restart (and hope) | 19:53 |
| Supermanintights | MartijnVdS, even if my note/iphone are connecting fine? | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: hmm, that's strange then | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: have you tried going to the network preferences (click on the wifi icon in the top bar, "Edit connections"), then deleting the connection for your wifi network? | 19:53 |
| Supermanintights | no, but will do that now MartijnVdS | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: and then reconnecting (making sure you type the security key correctly of course ;)) | 19:54 |
| Supermanintights | sure | 19:54 |
| brobostigon | show password, box, is useful for checking, | 19:54 |
| Supermanintights | we've changed the security key so it's simple to know if it's right or not | 19:54 |
| Supermanintights | would you recommend going through "add" connection, or just clicking the router in the list under the network manager? | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | second one | 19:55 |
| MartijnVdS | clicking it in the list | 19:55 |
| Supermanintights | :( not looking promising | 19:56 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: /var/log/syslog should tell you what's going on | 19:56 |
| Supermanintights | i just retested on my phone - and it's defo working - my phone is constantly telling me i got new email, adn i've disactivated all data connections | 19:56 |
| Supermanintights | how do I load/copy that? | 19:56 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: click on the Ubuntu logo (top left), then type "log", it should offer a log file viewer option | 19:57 |
| Supermanintights | syslog or syslog.1? | 19:57 |
| MartijnVdS | syslog, syslog.1 is yesterday's log | 19:58 |
| Supermanintights | http://paste.ubuntu.com/812253/ | 19:59 |
| Supermanintights | the network i want is NewCavendishBasement | 19:59 |
| MartijnVdS | does the access point have MAC address filters set up? So only "allowed" mac addresses can connect? | 20:00 |
| MartijnVdS | (and is the PC's address in it?) | 20:00 |
| Supermanintights | nope | 20:01 |
| Supermanintights | we run a serviced apartments - so that's not viable to run that | 20:01 |
| MartijnVdS | The software isn't getting replies from the access point for connection requests | 20:03 |
| MartijnVdS | so either it's too far away (low signal on the access point end -- it's not receiving packets from your machine) | 20:03 |
| Supermanintights | it's 2.5 metres away | 20:04 |
| MartijnVdS | or it's in some kind of weird "hole" in the coverage | 20:04 |
| Supermanintights | i'm connected via wired | 20:04 |
| MartijnVdS | OK so it shouldn't be a problem | 20:04 |
| Supermanintights | i did have a couple of issues on windows | 20:04 |
| * MartijnVdS is out of ideas | 20:04 | |
| Supermanintights | but it soon fixed itself | 20:04 |
| Supermanintights | this is very like the problem i had last time i used ubuntu | 20:04 |
| Supermanintights | which happened between 10.10 and 11.4 i believe | 20:04 |
| Supermanintights | natty/maverick | 20:05 |
| Supermanintights | i spent weeks trying to sort it - no internet at all (couldn't use wired then) | 20:05 |
| MartijnVdS | what kind of wifi chip do you have? | 20:05 |
| MartijnVdS | is the AP set to WPA-only or WPA2-only or mixed? CCMP? TKIP? Both? | 20:05 |
| Supermanintights | erm | 20:06 |
| Supermanintights | it's a realtek RTL912E | 20:06 |
| MartijnVdS | Some cards have issues with WPA2 or CCMP | 20:06 |
| Supermanintights | or something along those lines | 20:06 |
| MartijnVdS | realtek :) | 20:06 |
| Supermanintights | and as for your second question(s)? | 20:06 |
| Supermanintights | not a monkeys | 20:06 |
| Supermanintights | couldn't tell you if i spent 3 hours looking it up | 20:06 |
| Supermanintights | realtek = bad? :( | 20:06 |
| MartijnVdS | it should be a dropdown box in the settings page on the wifi router | 20:06 |
| MartijnVdS | or a checkbox | 20:07 |
| Supermanintights | erm | 20:07 |
| Supermanintights | sec | 20:07 |
| MartijnVdS | WPA, WPA2, or "WPA/WPA2 mixed" | 20:07 |
| MartijnVdS | and TKIP / CCMP (or "AES") the same | 20:07 |
| Supermanintights | http://paste.ubuntu.com/812262/ | 20:07 |
| Supermanintights | ?? | 20:07 |
| MartijnVdS | Nothing there.. hmm | 20:08 |
| MartijnVdS | isn't there a specific "wireless security" page? | 20:08 |
| Supermanintights | there are more pages | 20:08 |
| MartijnVdS | where you also set the password | 20:08 |
| popey | ⍨ sky | 20:08 |
| Supermanintights | :P | 20:09 |
| Supermanintights | MartijnVdS, - lots of pages | 20:09 |
| Supermanintights | set password page has nothing other than old/new password text boxes | 20:09 |
| Supermanintights | http://paste.ubuntu.com/812263/ | 20:09 |
| Supermanintights | from security page | 20:09 |
| popey | isnt that the security of the router itself, the admin pages | 20:10 |
| popey | not security of the network | 20:10 |
| Supermanintights | ah | 20:10 |
| MartijnVdS | what popey said :) | 20:10 |
| Supermanintights | my bad, looked too deep, and yes you're right | 20:10 |
| Supermanintights | http://paste.ubuntu.com/812264/ | 20:10 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: "Security options" - what's that set to atm? | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: ah WPA2-PSK | 20:11 |
| Supermanintights | (AES) | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | try setting it to WPA/WPA2-PSK (Mixed Mode), that should work with more | 20:11 |
| Supermanintights | ok | 20:12 |
| Supermanintights | i'm just waiting for the irritating moment where i get phone calls from guests moaning about their wifi | 20:12 |
| Supermanintights | still doesn't seem to be connecting :( | 20:12 |
| popey | delete the connection and recreate it in network manager | 20:13 |
| MartijnVdS | :( | 20:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Good one | 20:13 |
| Supermanintights | again - because i changed settings? | 20:13 |
| Supermanintights | and does that mean "add" connection? | 20:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: no, it's just clicking it from the menu (again) | 20:13 |
| MartijnVdS | same as last time | 20:13 |
| Supermanintights | ok | 20:13 |
| Supermanintights | (i know might sound stupid - was just checking) | 20:13 |
| popey | bah, optical drive in sisters computer is busted | 20:14 |
| Supermanintights | fml... how can it just stop working for no good reason? :( | 20:14 |
| popey | and it has 3 options for usb boot (USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-CDROM) | 20:14 |
| popey | none of which work with my usb stick that i just made with unetbootin | 20:14 |
| Supermanintights | mine is USB-FDD - that works | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | popey: Yeuch, I've seen some USB sticks that can pretend to be USB-FDD, but they're a bit rare | 20:15 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: USB-ZIP should | 20:15 |
| Supermanintights | MartijnVdS, popey - same problem, tries to connect, times out after a few minutes, tells me i need verification. 100% - the password is correct, i can see it in the settings on sky... | 20:15 |
| penguin42 | Supermanintights: Is this on 5.x or 2.4GHz ? | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Most card readers pretend to be USB-ZIP, maybe an SD card will work? | 20:16 |
| Supermanintights | what about changing channel etc? | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: 2.4 | 20:16 |
| Supermanintights | :s | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | Supermanintights: you could try, but I don't think that's the problem | 20:16 |
| penguin42 | hmm, had some problems on 5.x | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: I have a dual-mode AP, works fine on my laptop | 20:16 |
| Supermanintights | i'll leave it then - i don't want to have to go back up and get the guest to let me in so i can fix the extender | 20:16 |
| Supermanintights | any suggestions on what i can do to get this fixed? | 20:21 |
| Supermanintights | i'll post a bug or something if need be - but last time I did, no one got back to me or updated it | 20:22 |
| popey | Supermanintights: how did you delete the network connection? | 20:22 |
| Supermanintights | edit, delete | 20:22 |
| Supermanintights | in dropdown | 20:22 |
| popey | ok | 20:22 |
| popey | other stuff can connect okay? | 20:22 |
| popey | you can see dhcp leases being used on the access point? | 20:23 |
| Supermanintights | ??? | 20:23 |
| popey | guests can connect okay? | 20:23 |
| Supermanintights | that's over my head, last part | 20:23 |
| Supermanintights | yeah, well no complaints | 20:23 |
| Supermanintights | so yeah | 20:23 |
| popey | ip addresses have been given out by the device | 20:23 |
| popey | do you have a phone that has wifi? | 20:23 |
| Supermanintights | yeah | 20:23 |
| Supermanintights | restarting that now to test | 20:23 |
| popey | does that work? | 20:23 |
| Supermanintights | yes | 20:23 |
| popey | bah, this usb stick wont boot at all | 20:24 |
| Supermanintights | works perfectly fine | 20:24 |
| Supermanintights | definitely a laptop issue - but what, i'm not sure. | 20:24 |
| penguin42 | Supermanintights: Reboot | 20:24 |
| penguin42 | popey: netboot is probably you're only way | 20:24 |
| Supermanintights | ok, i'll try a reboot | 20:24 |
| Supermanintights | boot into normal ubuntu? | 20:24 |
| Supermanintights | or one of the test/safemode versions? | 20:25 |
| popey | test/safe isnt worth using imo | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | ok | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | what about windows | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | should i test it on there? | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | see if it's a ubuntu or laptop problem? | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | Supermanintights: Just try a simple reboot 1st | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | ok | 20:25 |
| penguin42 | Supermanintights: Back into ubuntu | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | back in 5 | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | thanks loads for help btw | 20:25 |
| Supermanintights | hmmm... i could have made my life so much simpler with a restart by the looks of it... | 20:28 |
| popey | hahah | 20:29 |
| popey | loser! | 20:29 |
| popey | ☺ | 20:29 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 20:29 |
| penguin42 | Supermanintights: well, still shouldn't have been needed | 20:29 |
| popey | indeed | 20:30 |
| popey | bah | 20:31 |
| popey | bios boot menu only lists floppy, hard disk, cdrom | 20:31 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: no booty? | 20:31 |
| popey | usb isnt mentioned, yet it is in the bios | 20:31 |
| Supermanintights | ethernet cable unplugged - can you guys see these messages? | 20:31 |
| Supermanintights | silence fills me with little confidence :( | 20:31 |
| Supermanintights | fml | 20:31 |
| Supermanintights | well i'm getting skype messages and chrome works - so i'm assuming you guys are being mean and letting me get worried somethings still wrong - but regardless - it's working now - thanks :D | 20:31 |
| popey | yes Supermanintights | 20:31 |
| popey | they came through in a flood | 20:32 |
| Supermanintights | woah | 20:32 |
| penguin42 | popey: What type of machine is this PoS ? | 20:32 |
| Supermanintights | all those messages came through super fast (AFTER i plugged cable back in :S) | 20:32 |
| MartijnVdS | it sounds 2002-2003ish | 20:33 |
| popey | penguin42: acer | 20:33 |
| popey | bios date is 2005 | 20:33 |
| popey | mobo is a F661GX | 20:33 |
| penguin42 | popey: Hmm, boot from hard disk should work with a thumb drive | 20:33 |
| penguin42 | popey: From USB thumb | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | does it have a floppy drive | 20:33 |
| popey | no | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | and no netboot either? (boot rom is usually separate from all other boot options on older boards) | 20:34 |
| popey | i cant be arsed to setup netboot | 20:34 |
| penguin42 | yeh, do you get any bios messages from the network card during boot? | 20:34 |
| popey | i dont have pxe boot server setup and whenever i try it takes ages and lots of fiddling | 20:34 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Then it's screwdriver time -> CD/DVD-player transplantation | 20:35 |
| * hamitron finds that with usb booting | 20:35 | |
| popey | case is already apart | 20:35 |
| popey | pondering yanking the hdd and doing the install on another box then moving the hdd back | 20:35 |
| penguin42 | nod | 20:36 |
| Supermanintights | i think it's gone down again actually :S | 20:36 |
| popey | but it's PATA | 20:36 |
| hamitron | isn't there an image to write to a partition, for OEM install? | 20:36 |
| Supermanintights | is anyone else having flood problems with IRC? | 20:36 |
| penguin42 | no | 20:37 |
| popey | Supermanintights: no | 20:37 |
| Supermanintights | sigh... i'm just going to close my eyes, pretend there are no problems, and worry about it when it breaks completely. | 20:37 |
| popey | this desktop is a celeron D | 20:37 |
| popey | ⍨ | 20:37 |
| penguin42 | popey: The luxury | 20:39 |
| popey | ooh | 20:40 |
| popey | the desktop sat under it has a pata DVD drive | 20:40 |
| * popey fiddles cables | 20:40 | |
| === myrtti is now known as Myrtti | ||
| popey | desktop on side with IDE and power cable coming out the side through to desktop underneath | 20:44 |
| popey | win | 20:44 |
| popey | hmmm | 20:45 |
| popey | suspect dodgy cd now | 20:45 |
| popey | gets as far as ISOLINUX 4.04 and then light goes out and it stops booting, exactly as it does with internal CDROM drive | 20:45 |
| zleap | can i attach screenshots to bug reports ? | 20:46 |
| popey | further this time | 20:46 |
| popey | yes zleap | 20:46 |
| popey | loading bootlogo... | 20:47 |
| popey | then nothing | 20:47 |
| zleap | ok cool, will submit a possible typo, ok its with the upgrade from 11.04 to 11.04 but given its an info dialog box it may end up in the next upgrade path | 20:47 |
| popey | whats the bug? | 20:48 |
| zleap | in the screen that says do you want to start the upgrade | 20:48 |
| zleap | it says it can take several hours then says "one the download has finished it the process be cancelled" | 20:49 |
| zleap | it says it can take several hours then says "once the download has finished it the process be cancelled" | 20:49 |
| popey | ah | 20:50 |
| zleap | for get the "it" part, | 20:50 |
| zleap | ok as I have never filed a bug report anyway it will be a good reason to learn | 20:50 |
| popey | i see more than one issue there | 20:51 |
| popey | 'the process be cancelled' | 20:51 |
| zleap | ok hold on i can't copy very well | 20:52 |
| zleap | once the download has finished the process cannot be cancelled | 20:53 |
| popey | whats wrong with that? | 20:53 |
| zleap | it just didn't sound right, | 20:54 |
| popey | its accurate | 20:54 |
| zleap | ok | 20:54 |
| popey | once you finish downloading the actual upgrade itself starts, that's the point of no return | 20:54 |
| zleap | ah | 20:54 |
| zleap | ok that makes more sense then | 20:55 |
| popey | bah, now the machine randomly boots from CD | 20:55 |
| zleap | is Paignton too far for people to travel to for a barcamp type event ? | 20:56 |
| popey | depends where they are coming from | 20:57 |
| zleap | ok | 20:57 |
| popey | now for io errors on the cd | 20:57 |
| popey | this doesn't bode well | 20:57 |
| popey | this is a professionally pressed cd from canonical | 20:58 |
| zleap | very early days yet, I am trying to set up a group for young developers (11 - 18) and it would be nice t see if we can get some sort of similar events organised | 20:58 |
| popey | i have less success with CDs from Canonical than I do from home-burns | 20:58 |
| popey | zleap: like YRS? | 20:58 |
| zleap | well this is more informal, but I would hope that what we do can lead in to people attending YRS, esp as they have one in exeter | 20:58 |
| popey | why not do it as part of YRS? | 20:59 |
| zleap | i want to get young people together, who either want to start, or enjoy programming so they can learn together and help each other, | 20:59 |
| zleap | this would be a more regular group so meeting say once a week | 21:00 |
| zleap | its in the idea / planning stage, at my local youth centre (newly opened) they like the idea as it would appeal to a different group | 21:01 |
| zleap | so they have macs at the moment but we can install things like scratch, kids ruby, and hopefully things like python | 21:03 |
| popey | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610031 hmmmmm | 21:04 |
| popey | ok, tried two drives, try two disks, boot failure most of the time | 21:06 |
| ubuntubhoy | I sometimes get that with UnetBootin | 21:06 |
| ubuntubhoy | need to leave the USB out and the netbook off for a bit before it will work | 21:06 |
| popey | ISOLINUX failed with Disk error 80, AX = 4280, drive 9F | 21:06 |
| popey | which is delightful | 21:07 |
| bigcalm | [[WARNING]] php.ini has short_open_tag set to off: FAILED | 21:09 |
| bigcalm | *** Set it to off in php.ini *** | 21:09 |
| bigcalm | Symfony 1.4 pre-install check sillyness | 21:09 |
| jacobw | hmm, looking at a green on black display for too long makes white look pink :| | 21:10 |
| Myrtti | pink mentioned | 21:10 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 21:11 |
| jacobw | :) | 21:11 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Alan Lord] OT: Chillies 2012 - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2012/01/21/ot-chillies-2012/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ot-chillies-2012 | 21:14 |
| zleap | well 11.10 looks pretty good so far :) | 21:15 |
| zleap | being able to get to show desktop from alt-tab is great | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | mmmm chillies | 21:16 |
| jacobw | what's the use case of show desktop? | 21:22 |
| jacobw | assuming your not using ~/Desktop to store files or icons | 21:23 |
| Lcawte | Sometimes I really love Ubuntu... I just set my sisters desktop up with it, and put an sshd on there... what fun I can have.. | 21:26 |
| AlanBell | daubers: my fuse driver kind of works \o/ | 21:26 |
| zleap | well its good to quickly move to a blank empty desktop (ok got icons on there) but when there are several apps openits a good way to make sense from what can endup chaos | 21:26 |
| zleap | Lcawte, ssh in and type eject :) | 21:26 |
| jacobw | speech synthesisers are more fun | 21:27 |
| Lcawte | zleap: will that cause any damage that I'll have to go downstairs and fix (ie recovery console type stuff) or just reboot? | 21:27 |
| AlanBell | spd-say "initiating launch sequence" | 21:28 |
| jacobw | nope, it'll just pop out the optical media tray | 21:28 |
| zleap | it was more of a joke reminded me of what another user told me, he did that and he ended up knocking a colleagues coffee cup off the desk | 21:28 |
| jacobw | haha | 21:28 |
| hamitron | serves him right for having it on the desk, when a special tray comes out of the comp for it | 21:29 |
| hamitron | ;) | 21:29 |
| popey | Finally got installer started for sisters computer | 21:30 |
| AlanBell | I think I am going to have to use regular expressions /o\ | 21:31 |
| Lcawte | Hmm, is there any funky commands I can make to have a popup apear on my sisters screen or something | 21:31 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 21:31 |
| popey | Lcawte: notify-osd ? | 21:31 |
| popey | Lcawte: export DISPLAY=:0.0 | 21:32 |
| popey | Lcawte: notify-send MOO | 21:32 |
| AlanBell | ^(.*/)?(?:$|(.+?)(?:(\.[^.]*$)|$)) really really doesn't look like it makes any sense at all | 21:33 |
| Laney | yeah regexes are important to comment well | 21:34 |
| AlanBell | oh, then again, I can use os.path | 21:40 |
| Lcawte | oh wow, spd-say is so weird | 21:43 |
| AlanBell | it is a front end to espeak and other synthesisers | 21:44 |
| gordonjcp | can you change espeak's "accent"? | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | yes | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | :) | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | hmm it is in there somewhere | 21:56 |
| directhex | can you make it sound like a snooty frenchman? | 21:59 |
| directhex | hon hon hon! | 21:59 |
| AlanBell | yeah, but I am looking for scottish | 22:00 |
| AlanBell | spd-say -l fr "bonjour, je m'appelle directhex" | 22:01 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: hm, it doesn't like things being piped to it... | 22:04 |
| AlanBell | spd-say -l en-sc "och aye the noo" | 22:05 |
| AlanBell | as scottish people never say | 22:05 |
| gordonjcp | wonder if you can do the singing trick like with festival? | 22:06 |
| directhex | gordonjcp, -e | 22:06 |
| directhex | Pipe from stdin to stdout plus Speech Dispatcher | 22:06 |
| gordonjcp | http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/mp3s/robots.mp3 <- like that | 22:07 |
| AlanBell | spd-say -l en-wm "it can even do a brummie accent" | 22:07 |
| * brobostigon puts DSOTM on, | 22:19 | |
| directhex | great gig in the sky and us&them are brilliant | 22:20 |
| brobostigon | :) | 22:21 |
| brobostigon | i am learning the drums, i would love to play the drums like nick mason. my favorite album though is piper at the gates of dawn. | 22:24 |
| gordonjcp | hrm, can't figure out how to set pitches in espeak, *yet*... | 22:32 |
| AlanBell | are you using espeak directly or through speech dispatcher? | 22:34 |
| AlanBell | it is -p directly | 22:34 |
| AlanBell | oh, it is -p from -100 to 100 through speech dispatcher, and 0 to 99 directly | 22:35 |
| gordonjcp | AlanBell: yeah but then I need to stitch together individual phonemes ;-) | 22:41 |
| brobostigon | us and them, the song, almost sometimes feels like it is describing autistics, and then everyone else, but then also saying, we are not so different afterall. | 22:47 |
| brobostigon | or something quite similer. | 22:48 |
| === roger_ is now known as Zill | ||
| gordonjcp | sod it, the best I can do just now without lots of hackery is | 22:58 |
| gordonjcp | http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/mp3s/spd-pe.ogg | 22:58 |
| Azelphur | haha | 22:58 |
| bigcalm | Oh my goodness | 23:00 |
| Azelphur | A FIFO is a way for inter-process communication, right? | 23:03 |
| Azelphur | so you can have a daemon that's always running, and a command line tool that talks to the daemon | 23:04 |
| brobostigon | like adb in the android sdk, yes. | 23:05 |
| Azelphur | cool, time to play with that then :D | 23:05 |
| mattt | graphite is very cool | 23:51 |
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