[00:48] <bkerensa> hi
[00:48] <bkerensa> oh darn... I just get on IRC and now I gotta run off and work
[00:48] <bkerensa> :(
[01:03] <MarkDude> bkerensa, PING
[01:03] <MarkDude> Any news on cheaper Linux laptops?
[01:04] <MarkDude> When does CTL expect their machines to hit- end of Feb?
[01:05] <c_smith> hmmmm, wonder what GPU those come with.
[01:05] <c_smith> got 15 minutes until I head to the Ubuntu Hour for today.
[01:06] <c_smith> headed there gives me 10 minutes leeway.
[01:06] <MarkDude> Intel Core i3-2330 2.2GHz, 3M Cache
[01:06] <MarkDude> Tello Ben I can check later
[01:07] <MarkDude> Someone at the conference was interersted
[01:07] <MarkDude> have fun c_smith
[01:07] <c_smith> yup
[01:08] <c_smith> MarkDude, I wasn't talking CPU, but GPU: Graphic Processing Unity, commonly known as a Graphics Card.
[01:08] <c_smith> *Unit, not Unity
[01:09] <c_smith> any clue what the graphics card is?
[01:34] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Beginning of March
[01:35]  * bkerensa is likely going to be a contractor setting up SVN/GIT/Trac for them and some other work to make their Ubuntu product development better
[01:49] <albrigha> bkerensa: cool awesome!
[01:50]  * c_smith is at the Broadway Commons Coffeehouse
[01:50] <c_smith> still trying to find a better place to host these Ubuntu Hours in Salem.
[01:54] <c_smith> bleh, Plasma Shell keeps crashing......
[01:54] <c_smith> so, is anyone here at Broadway Commons?
[01:55] <c_smith> if anyone is here, I'm 2 tables away from the door facing Broadway.
[01:55] <albrigha> I can't make it down there tonight I'm afraid
[01:55] <albrigha> but where on broadway is it?
[01:56] <c_smith> it's on the corner of Broadway and Gaines.
[01:56] <c_smith> really easy for me to get to.
[01:56] <c_smith> Cherriots and monthly bus pass from school ftw!
[01:57] <c_smith> bkerensa, any clue what GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) those CTL laptop have?
[02:01] <albrigha> Oh, you are in salem--that's right.
[02:01] <albrigha> I kept thinking you are in portland >_<
[02:01] <c_smith> lol
[02:02] <c_smith> I have doctors in Portland (OHSU) and I go to Portland for some of the Ubuntu Oregon events, I'd love to attend OSCON.
[02:09] <albrigha> yeah I'm planning on going this year
[02:09] <albrigha> I've been before and tons of swag
[02:10] <albrigha> got even
[02:10] <albrigha> it's good fun
[02:10] <albrigha> I think there will be a loco booth?
[02:10] <albrigha> bkerensa would know better..but I think he said osmething about that
[02:10] <c_smith> just wish I knew where it was (street address) so I could start planning.
[02:14] <albrigha> usually convention center I think
[02:14] <albrigha> http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012
[02:14] <albrigha> yeah convention center
[02:16] <c_smith> nice, now I can actually start planning for it.
[02:37] <albrigha> glad I could help :)
[03:51] <albrigha> well how'd the ubuntu hour go then?
[03:52] <c_smith> nobody showed up, dunno if I turned any heads to FLOSS either.
[03:52] <c_smith> but it's only the 3rd meeting (second one I didnt't make, 1st one I hosted, might have those numbers wrong, too) so it's to be expected.
[03:53] <c_smith> heh, I posted about that on #ubuntu-offtopic by mistake. meant to say what I said there here.
[04:08] <albrigha> lol
[04:08] <albrigha> hate it when that happens
[04:08] <c_smith> yup
[04:09] <c_smith> well, back to marking software to install
[04:56] <albrigha> so what do you do c_smith?
[04:56] <albrigha> school, work? etc?
[05:11] <c_smith> School, working on getting in Chemeketa.
[05:11] <c_smith> I help out here in my spare time (which is getting less and less these days)
[05:12] <c_smith> plus I have an operation on my jaw coming up (which I wish I could just forget until I have to go in for it)
[05:19] <albrigha> what do you want to learn at chemeketa?
[05:19] <albrigha> I have an operation on my wrist soon >_<
[05:20] <albrigha> not looking forward to it either
[05:20] <albrigha> what do they have to do with your jaw, if you don't mind?
[05:20] <c_smith> they're breaking it and reconstructing it, similar to what they did to my nose, this will be operation twenty-something, I lost count at 20.
[05:21] <albrigha> damn man
[05:21] <albrigha> that sounds harsh >_<
[05:21] <c_smith> Scholiosis, Cleft Lip AND Pallet.
[05:21] <albrigha> well..hopefully everything will work out this time!
[05:21] <c_smith> got the short straw in that sense in my family, but I haven't had a broken bone that didn't need to happen.
[05:22] <c_smith> both my brother AND sister have had broken bones due to accidents.
[05:22] <albrigha> man that sucks
[05:22] <albrigha> I'm sorry :(
[05:22] <c_smith> yep, at least I haven't broken a bone in my body myself.
[05:22] <albrigha> but..you seem pretty positive
[05:22] <albrigha> so that's good :)
[05:23] <c_smith> yep. sometimes I get somewhat negative, but with this type of stuff, I find it's easier to look at it in a positive angle.
[05:23] <albrigha> yeah...can't really control it. sadly
[05:23] <c_smith> there are things I tend to look at negatively though.
[05:23] <albrigha> I'm sure, it happens :/
[05:24] <albrigha> what are you wanting to do at chemeketa?
[05:24] <c_smith> but most things are easier to look at in a positive light.
[05:24] <albrigha> they do emt/fire stuff there, I think?
[05:24] <c_smith> something that will help me at least get in to a better college for programming classes.
[05:25] <albrigha> ah cool!
[05:25] <albrigha> have you learned any programming, by chance?
[05:25] <c_smith> yup
[05:25] <c_smith> a bit of Python.
[05:25] <albrigha> nice
[05:25] <albrigha> I've been working on python myself
[05:25] <c_smith> still working on it in times I'm bored.
[05:25] <albrigha> if you want to do some collaboration I'd be down
[05:25] <albrigha> yeah..
[05:25] <albrigha> it's nice to work with someone, I feel
[05:25] <albrigha> little motivation, etd
[05:25] <albrigha> c
[05:26] <c_smith> when I get bored, I put my effort to learning it. or reading a book.
[05:26] <albrigha> have you looked at..
[05:26] <albrigha> http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex1.html
[05:26] <albrigha> it's great!
[05:26] <albrigha> I also found some MIT classes online! :O
[05:27] <c_smith> that looks like it would be better than the book I'm using.
[05:27] <albrigha> I've had a hard time with books..
[05:27] <albrigha> I mean I have a great book too
[05:27] <albrigha> but the learnpythonthehardway is great
[05:28] <albrigha> I learned a lot
[05:28] <c_smith> I myself have a good time with books when I can practice it while reading it.
[05:28] <albrigha> exactly
[05:28] <albrigha> it's just hard that, at least my python book, is 3" thick
[05:28] <albrigha> it's hard to prop that thing up so I can read it while typing
[05:29] <c_smith> true.
[05:30] <albrigha> I have a music stand..but it sort of falls over
[05:30] <albrigha> well check it out, let me know what you think
[05:30] <albrigha> I'm no expert, but I'll help if I can
[05:31] <albrigha> I know some super python programmers though
[05:31] <c_smith> I will, currently working on marking stuff for installation, and then am going to sleep, I'll look at it tomorrow then let you know. k?
[05:31] <albrigha> yeah cool :)
[05:31] <albrigha> ttyl :)
[05:32] <c_smith> also, was it you I was helping with the znc server?
[05:32] <albrigha>  no, I haven't tried connecting yet
[05:32] <albrigha> my configuration is..complicated.
[05:32] <c_smith> I'm not going to sleep yet.
[05:32] <c_smith> ah, ok
[05:32] <albrigha> but..actually I'm going to get xchat working though
[05:32] <c_smith> still have quite a bit to mark for installation.
[05:33] <albrigha> what are you installing?
[05:33] <albrigha> 12.04?
[05:33] <c_smith> a bunch of games, and some stuff for compiling different programs, and Chromium.
[05:33] <albrigha> ah fun stuff
[05:33] <c_smith> yup
[05:33] <albrigha> what do you use ubuntu for anyway?
[05:34] <c_smith> My only OS, which means pretty much everything, the only thing that held me to Windows I found out worked better on Ubuntu about two years ago.
[05:35] <albrigha> awesome!
[05:35] <c_smith> yup
[05:35] <albrigha> what version do you have installed now?
[05:35] <c_smith> Kubuntu 11.10 x86_64
[05:35] <albrigha> ah cool
[05:36] <c_smith> KDE really looks nice, and is really functional.
[05:36] <albrigha> yeah..and unity is looking better :) at least..with 12.04 it seems better. or maybe I just get it more
[05:36] <albrigha> I hated it for awhile though
[05:37] <c_smith> looks like I might try 12.04 beta, but the alpha doesn't want to work for me.
[05:37] <albrigha> what issues are you having?
[05:37] <c_smith> Kernel Panics galore on startup.
[05:37] <albrigha> I load up the daily..almost daily
[05:37] <albrigha> hm
[05:37] <albrigha> interesting
[05:37] <albrigha> what sort of system are you on?
[05:37] <albrigha> have you tried recently?
[05:37] <c_smith> just yesterday.
[05:38] <albrigha> it ran fine in my VM..I'm curious what panics you are getting?
[05:38] <albrigha> did you run it on a real system or vm?
[05:39] <c_smith> VM worked, got a good look at it, it doesn't like being installed on the real system.
[05:39] <albrigha> ah hm
[05:39] <albrigha> interesting
[05:39] <albrigha> well my test box sort of crashed
[05:39] <c_smith> I'll likely do the VM for a while until Beta comes about.
[05:40] <albrigha> what sort of system did you try installing it on?
[05:40] <c_smith> Compaq Presario CQ60-420US
[05:41] <c_smith> system is about 3-years old.
[05:41] <albrigha> hmm
[05:43] <c_smith> now here's a sad thing: many children in the US are unemployed illegally.
[05:44] <c_smith> *employed.
[05:44] <c_smith> not unemployed.
[05:44] <albrigha> I don't see any defects for your system with kernel panic
[05:44] <albrigha> would you be willing to do some testing for me?
[05:44] <c_smith> hmmmm, then it might be the fact that it is an alpha.
[05:44] <albrigha> i'd..really appreciate it :)
[05:44] <c_smith> what kind of testing?
[05:45] <albrigha> true..if I could get the kernel panics I can double check if they are already in LP
[05:45] <albrigha> just install..see how it goes. and lemme know what panics you get, etc
[05:45] <albrigha> If you want..no pressure
[05:45] <c_smith> I've found I can get a Panic from just booting the LiveCD.
[05:46] <albrigha> are there any other messages/errors?
[05:46] <c_smith> Virtualbox doesn't do this, though.
[05:46] <albrigha> yeah seems to work fine with vb for me too
[05:46] <albrigha> so I'm thinking there is a hardware issue
[05:46] <albrigha> but..it's hard to say..limited info, etc
[05:46] <c_smith> I'd need to get the CD, and the packages would take several hours to install, so I can test tomorrow.
[05:46] <albrigha> oki np
[05:46] <c_smith> cool
[05:47] <c_smith> tbh, don't think I'll actually install as I get the same Panic from the LiveCD as if I were to upgrade and reboot.
[05:47] <albrigha> yeah that's cool
[05:47] <albrigha> just a livecd and the actual error would be great
[05:48] <albrigha> is that your primary system?
[05:49] <c_smith> cool, I'll have the LiveCD ready, just need to have a way to talk on IRC on my Wii (not hard since I have it hacked)
[05:49] <c_smith> it's my only PC.
[05:52] <c_smith> I'm sure I can get an IRC client for my Wii. just would need to figure out how to get it to connect to Ben's znc server.
[05:54] <albrigha> hm no idea..
[05:54] <albrigha> I've played on a wii I think once >_<
[05:54] <c_smith> yeah, doubt you have a softmodded Wii.
[05:55] <albrigha> I haven't. but I've moded lots of android phones :)
[05:55] <albrigha> I'm sure it's diff though
[05:55] <albrigha> how do you mod a wii, roughly?
[05:56] <c_smith> lol, VERY, the main I/O software is know as an IOS (Input/Output System) I usually mod it with an exploit called Letterbomb, and use that exploit to install a channel called The Homebrew Channel.
[05:56] <albrigha> over usb? a linux app?
[05:57] <c_smith> nope, front loaded SDHC card.
[05:57] <albrigha> wow xchat is way better than pidgin. that's for sure
[05:57] <albrigha> ah I see
[05:57] <c_smith> that it is.
[05:57] <c_smith> the actual exploit was found by Team Twiizers.
[05:58] <albrigha> hold on, I'm going to switch completely. brb
[06:01] <c_smith> hmmm, looks like I'll have to use the Wii internet Channel to use a Browser based IRC client.
[06:02] <c_smith> Mibbit Looks promising.
[06:04] <kalosaurusrex> bah
[06:04] <kalosaurusrex> my other nick zombied
[06:05] <c_smith> wow.....
[06:06] <c_smith> not sure how that happens. would a op be able to help?
[06:08] <kalosaurusrex> nah it's cool
[06:08] <kalosaurusrex> I think I almost have it
[06:10] <c_smith> k
[06:13] <albrigha> ohh okay
[06:13] <albrigha> i think i got it worked out
[06:14] <albrigha> c_smith, you still around?
[06:16] <c_smith> yup
[06:16] <albrigha> ah cool
[06:16] <albrigha> working great
[06:16] <albrigha> much much better
[06:16] <c_smith> won't be for much longer, though
[06:16] <albrigha> oki
[06:17] <c_smith> but yeah, you see why I use Xchat now, don't you?
[06:17] <albrigha> oh yes
[06:17] <albrigha> i've used it before and forgot about it >_<
[06:17] <c_smith> I use Pidgin for FB and a Gamer IM called Xfire.
[06:17] <albrigha> it's much better
[06:17] <albrigha> i can never get fb to keep working..
[06:17] <c_smith> Xfire only has a Windows client.
[06:17] <albrigha> it always seems to have some issue after awhile
[06:17] <albrigha> ah
[06:18] <c_smith> but Pidgin has a plugin for Xfire called Gfire.
[06:18] <c_smith> hmmmm, I haven't run into that on Pidgin with Facebook.
[06:19] <albrigha> i just stopped using it after awhile
[06:19] <albrigha> i guess i could try again
[06:20] <albrigha> eh i don't really chat on fb anyway
[06:20] <albrigha> so it wasn't a big deal
[06:20] <c_smith> well, I'm gonna go get some sleep, tomorrow I'll figure out the IRC on the Wii, as the Wii doesn't have an IRC client (not even a Homebrew app) but it has an Opera based web browser, so I should be able to get a browser based Freenode client working.
[06:20] <albrigha> cool!
[06:20] <albrigha> ttyl :)
[06:20] <c_smith> and then I'll assist on the Panics.
[06:20] <c_smith> ttyl
[06:36] <albrigha> anyone around?
[07:38] <bkerensa> heh
[07:38] <bkerensa> albrigha Im here
[07:39] <albrigha> hey hey!
[17:09] <c_smith> hello
[17:11] <c_smith> albrigha, you here?
[17:13] <c_smith_> doing that so I can log into my account with a browser based IRC and help with the Kernel Panic
[17:39] <Tgonza> hello all
[17:40] <Tgonza> bkerensa I finally have some time to try and get that ZNC thing working in Xchat
[17:40] <Tgonza> it wasn't ZNC but cant remember what the letters where
[17:41] <Tgonza> bkerensa this is TRAVISg
[17:42] <Tgonza> Anybody here this morning?
[17:43] <Tgonza> I have some questions about architectures I just realized last night that the install I did of 11.10 on My girlfiends machine is 64 bit
[17:44] <c_smith> cool
[17:44] <Tgonza> So now I am researching the differences to see if I need to reinstall with 32bit any first impressions
[17:45] <Tgonza> wait a moment whats the "Kernel Panic" something I can help with?
[17:45] <c_smith> actually, unless she has more than 4GB worth of RAM, there's not much difference, 64-bit is the first architecture that can support >4GB RAM.
[17:46] <c_smith> 32-Bit in general support up to 3GB RAM.
[17:47] <c_smith> and the Kernel Panic is from the Alpha version of 12.04, me and albrigha are trying to pin down the cause so a bug report can be filed for it.
[17:47] <Tgonza> I see
[17:47] <c_smith> it isn't installed, but I have the LiveCD ready.
[17:47] <Tgonza> ah
[17:47] <c_smith> the LiveCD gives me the same Panic as if I were to upgrade and boot up.
[17:48] <Tgonza> You know this may sound cheesy but you guys have made learning more about my hardware and software so easy and such a good experience
[17:48] <Tgonza> thanks for all your help guys
[17:48] <c_smith> no prob
[17:48] <Tgonza> *tearing up a little*
[17:48] <Tgonza> ;)
[17:49] <c_smith> just wish more people in Salem were interested in FOSS.
[17:49] <Tgonza> I have heard some talk here at the mission I live and work at of making a jump to FOSS
[17:52] <c_smith> hmmmm, interesting.
[17:52] <c_smith> well, time to play some Modern Warfare 3
[18:13] <Tgonza> Enjoy
[18:13] <Tgonza> bkerensa you here?
[18:13] <Tgonza> bkerensa, cant remember how to talk to a specific person I think that's it
[18:42] <Tgonza> c_smith you there?
[19:05] <Tgonza> AFK
[19:26] <Tgonza> any body here?
[19:29] <Tgonza> all right I am off to backspace then the Library. hope to catch some folks later
[19:29] <Tgonza> bkerensa really looking forward to the screencast of znc-Xchat set up thanks in advance
[20:11] <c_smith> hello
[20:16]  * c_smith finished playing MW3 for now
[20:35] <c_smith> hmmmmm, kinda quiet.
[20:58] <tgm4883> PARTY!
[20:58] <tgm4883> BUWAWAWAAAAWAWA!!!!!!!!
[20:58] <tgm4883> There, no longer quiet
[20:58] <tgm4883> your welcome c_smith
[20:58] <c_smith> lol
[20:59]  * c_smith throws confetti
[20:59]  * tgm4883 fires guns into the air
[21:01]  * c_smith lights helium on fire
[21:03]  * tgm4883 pumps gasoline into the fire sprinklers
[21:03] <tgm4883> Da roof, Da roof, Da roof is on fire!
[21:09] <c_smith> rofl
[21:10]  * c_smith dumps Nitroglycerin on tgm4883 and throws a match on him
[21:10] <c_smith> ooops, think someone killed tgm4883, better get the police in here.
[21:10] <tgm4883> (In the voice of Vader) Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
[21:13]  * c_smith fires a sniper rifle at tgm4883 at point blank range
[21:14]  * tgm4883 holds up the firing pin to said sniper rifle
[21:16] <c_smith> crap....... you beat me there. BUT! I have nuclear launch codes and a launch device! muahahahahahahahahah!!!!
[21:16]  * c_smith launches a nuke at the middle of the pacific ocean
[21:17] <c_smith> never said where I would have it hit, did I?
[21:17]  * tgm4883 locks C4 to c_smith's chest and holds up a dead man switch
[21:17] <tgm4883> mutually assured destruction
[21:17] <c_smith> aw..... crap.
[21:18]  * c_smith takes a ax and cuts off the arm that is holding up the C4
[21:19]  * tgm4883 tosses the dead man switch at c_smith 
[21:19] <c_smith> fuuuu--!!!!!
[21:19]  * c_smith is simultaniously blown to pieces and burned alive
[21:20]  * tgm4883 bows and goes back to writing a unity scope
[21:20] <c_smith> lol
[21:20] <c_smith> mind telling me what a Unity scope is?
[21:20] <tgm4883> c_smith, do you know what a Unity lens is?
[21:20] <c_smith> yes.
[21:21] <tgm4883> ok, so the scope is the backend portions that feeds a lens
[21:21] <c_smith> ah, ok
[21:21] <c_smith> what is the scope for?
[21:21] <tgm4883> so you might have a videos lens, that is fed by a youtube scope, an amazon vod scope, etc
[21:21] <tgm4883> I'm writing a mythtv scope for the videos lens for UbuntuTV
[21:21] <c_smith> hmmmm, cool
[21:22] <c_smith> good luck! :D
[21:22] <tgm4883> Thanks, I've got a bunch of it done. I need Unity to get a little more mature before I can feed the lens what I'd like to, so I'm working on some zero conf stuff right now
[21:28] <c_smith> ah, cool, well, time for lunch, ttyl