[00:00] <Slart> dies_irae: here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtGmMsrrV-U .. the part you were looking for starts at about 6.30
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: using dd it can work, I'd just stick to unetbootin etc and then its less to remember..
[00:01] <dies_irae> Slart: thanks a lot for your time.
[00:02] <dies_irae> wow, not even near the end
[00:03] <pocopina> does canonical-ux have its own  channel?
[00:04] <pocopina> nm, i guess they use #ubuntu-design
[00:04] <rahduke> one of my drives wont let me just move things to the trash, it insists i permanently delete everything, and now im getting an error when configuring sickbeard that "Failed to set permission for /media/bigdrive to 777" i feel like these issues are related.... any help?
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: are you the owner of all of your $HOME ?
[00:06] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: looks like it
[00:07] <guy_> anyone know why when running script.py I get this error : > bash: ./firewalk.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory and when using python script.py everything works fine ?
[00:08] <guy_> anyone ?:/
[00:08] <linxeh> guy_: your script is in DOS format
[00:08] <ohdae> Hey im having some strange error with my PATH. I have 2 python scripts, they both identify the interpreter by using #!/usr/bin/python. Running one script by using ./script.py will say "/usr/bin/python : no such interpreter" but the other works fine
[00:08] <linxeh> guy_: it has CRLF line breaks rather than unix LF line breaks
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: you can make sure with:  sudo chown -R $USER:USER $HOME
[00:09] <linxeh> guy_: you can get utilities to convert it - there are some in the repos
[00:09] <ohdae> like this for example..root@ubuntu:/home/hudson/Desktop/bindshella/Intersect# ./firewalk.py
[00:09] <ohdae> 19:03:12 !<ohdae> bash: ./firewalk.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[00:09] <guy_> linxeh, thanks
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: your trash is stored in your home folder and may be the issue
[00:09] <linxeh> guy_: try apt-get install dos2unix and converting that file (make a backup first)
[00:09] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: Ok that would take care of my home folder, what about other drives
[00:09] <ohdae> but another script that starts the same will run perfectly fine
[00:09] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: Ohhh
[00:09] <guy_> ohdae :)
[00:10] <ohdae> hey guy_ :D
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> ohdae: what if you run it as your user but with sudo?
[00:10] <guy_> check other window :)
[00:10] <ohdae> hrm let me try ActionParsnip
[00:11] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: "chown: cannot access `/home/rahduke3/.gvfs': Permission denied"
[00:11] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: is that the issue
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> rahduke: thats normal
[00:11] <rahduke> thought so
[00:11] <rahduke> ActionParsnip: still having the same issue
[00:11] <dies_irae> rahduke: maybe is not there do this --> touch /home/rahduke3/.gvfs
[00:12] <ohdae> ActionParsnip: The scripts actually don't run at all. I dont get the error but nothing happens at all lol
[00:12] <dies_irae> sorry this one -->  sudo /home/rahduke3/.gvfs
[00:12] <rahduke> dies_irae: no issues with that command
[00:12] <mongy> rahduke, it's normal to not access .gvfs
[00:12] <ohdae> hudson@ubuntu:~/Desktop/bindshella/Intersect$ sudo ./firewalk.py 192.168.1.94 23
[00:12] <ohdae> hudson@ubuntu:~/Desktop/bindshella/Intersect$
[00:12] <ohdae> O.o
[00:12] <ohdae> heh
[00:12] <meerkats> in unity, alt-tab scrolls forward, which one scrolls backewards?
[00:12] <FloodBot1> ohdae: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <rahduke> dies_irae: "sudo: /home/rahduke3/.gvfs: command not found
[00:12] <rahduke> "
[00:13] <ohdae> pft that wasnt a flood :p
[00:13] <dies_irae> sorry this one -->  sudo touch /home/rahduke3/.gvfs
[00:13] <dies_irae> rahduke: that's odd cuz it's in the users dir though.
[00:13] <rahduke> mongy: well i cant seem to just move stuff to my trash folder, forced to delete everything and i think its screwing up my sickbeard installation
[00:13] <rahduke> dies_irae: agreed
[00:14] <dies_irae> rahduke: move it or delete it with sudo and as regular user do touch it.
[00:14] <mongy> rahduke, is .local/share/Trash chown to you and chmod 700 ?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> ohdae: in linux, no output is good news
[00:15] <zak_> Synaptic crashes consistently on my 11.10 box (Memory segmentation Error)
[00:15] <rahduke> mongy: ive never done that command before to that folder, should I?
[00:15] <zak_> where would I start looking to remedy that?
[00:15] <DonCaca> amanda....
[00:16] <rahduke> wow whatever i just did worked, looks like chowning that folder and chmod 700 did the trick
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> zak_: are you running it with gksudo?
[00:17] <zak_> running it from terminal
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> zak_: yes but did you run:  gksudo synaptic    ?
[00:17] <cara> w00t
[00:18] <jrib> ohdae: your "error" is because there is a ^M at the end of your line (see dos2unix command)
[00:18] <cara> yay copying from windows to linux ftw :D
[00:19] <ohdae> jrib: hrm strange
[00:19] <zak_> ActionParsnip, no, just ordinary sudo. I see now that gksu package is not installed at all
[00:19] <jrib> ohdae: why strange?
[00:19] <ohdae> i wrote it all on linux
[00:19] <zak_> thats strange
[00:19] <ohdae> yeah heh
[00:19] <ohdae> Would it be because I backed up the files onto a Windows partition and then moved them back to *nix at a later point?
[00:20] <ohdae> they werent executed or edited on Win7 at all though, just stored there fora  short time
[00:20] <ohdae> for a*
[00:20] <zak_> ActionParsnip, same kind of error using gksudo
[00:20] <rixter_> ohdae, did you open them within windows?
[00:20] <ohdae> rixter_: no not at all
[00:20] <zak_> synaptic window pops up for a second, then disappears
[00:20] <rixter_> ohdae, use dos2unix to convert them back
[00:20] <ohdae> I just formatted and reinstalled my Ubuntu install so maybe there's some config issue I missed?
[00:21] <ohdae> I'll give it a shot rixter_
[00:21] <ohdae> thanks guys
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> zak_: what is the error? Use a pastebin if it is multi-lined...
[00:21] <Lolo> Hi
[00:21] <zak_> no errormessage at all when i start it using sudo/gksudo
[00:22] <Lolo> i wanna know if some of you know how to use gawk
[00:22] <Lolo> ?
[00:22] <dagerik> !ask
[00:22] <rixter_> Lolo, I like to gawk at good looking women.
[00:22] <rixter_> Lolo, but you might check with #bash
[00:22] <zak_> if I am root already, I get a simple "Memory segmentation error"
[00:23] <jwp121> Is there a way to have one gpg key that works on two computers?
[00:23] <Lolo> Yeah sorry, but not easy for me to ask in english :p
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Lolo: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/gawk.1.html   may help
[00:23] <cara> nope that I can thinking
[00:23] <cara> um think of.. wow
[00:23] <Lolo> how to catch % during extract with unrar
[00:24] <thechad90000> I'm having issues with the gnome 3.2 shell. I installed it when I was testing out Ubuntu and I really loved it but now that I have Ubuntu as my only operating system, I can't get it to work. I'm in the gnome shell right now but it's not the new type of shell. It's got Applications and Places at the top but when I put my mouse at the top right, the whole dashboard and sidebars don't pop up. Nothing happens. It's just a blank desk
[00:24] <thechad90000> top with no features that I wanted in the gnome 3.2 shell. Any help would be really great.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Lolo: do you mean like show a percentage?
[00:24] <Lolo> yeah
[00:24] <Lolo> to use it with zenity progress
[00:24] <BarkingFish> Lolo, maybe if English is not your first language, you may be able to get help in a channel where your main language is spoken :) We have lots.
[00:24] <stahlie> I installed ubuntu 11.10 from windows 7 and now I'm dual booting.  How do I mount windows 7 drive so I can have access to my pictures and videos from ubuntu?
[00:24] <stahlie> or is it already mounted?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Lolo: I know what you mean, just not sure how to do it. The guys in #bash may know something
[00:24] <Photon-Phoenix> I don't think the Intel 82852/82855 drivers installed when I installed Ubuntu last night.  Anyway to activate those manually?
[00:25] <Lolo> ActionParsnip, ok, thx
[00:25] <spacebug-> zak_: have you tried to purge / reinstall synaptic?
[00:25] <jwp121> thchad90000:  Are you in fallback mode?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> Lolo: it may set a variable someplace
[00:25] <zak_> spacebug, tried a reinstall, yes.
[00:26] <spacebug-> hum ok
[00:26] <thechad90000> jwp121: I'm not sure if I'm in fallback mode or not. I'm just in normal mode
[00:26] <cara> um we're in 2012 right?
[00:26] <cara> my mind is gone seriously
[00:26] <Lolo> actio
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Lolo: could try piping the errors to grep etc, may be able to do it
[00:26] <ewokbot> no we are in 1986
[00:26] <rebe> I forwarded a port in router settings but transmission still shows that port is closed wtf ?
[00:27] <BarkingFish> cara, yes this is 2012
[00:27] <stahlie> does anyone here know how to mount windows 7 so we can access to files from windows 7 when using ubunt?
[00:27] <Lolo> ActionParsnip, i'm trying to get an answer on #bash
[00:27] <jwp121> thchad90000:  try logging out and hitting the gear button, then make sure you select gnome
[00:28] <thechad90000> That's what I've already done
[00:28] <DexterF> stahlie: UUID=06EF430E44FCFBCA /mnt/windows    ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       0
[00:28] <jwp121> thchad90000:  oh, gnome-shell is buggy for me, too.
[00:28] <zak_> spacebug- problem is consistent even after purge.
[00:29] <DexterF> add such a line to your fstab. create mount point accordingly and replace uuid with the one of your win partition. blkid should tell you
[00:29] <thechad90000> jwp121: Yeah it worked so good just a few minutes ago and then when I went to only dedicated Ubuntu and now it doesn't work
[00:29] <phillyj> anyone happen to know what maximum size of the terminal will fit stuff I type without word-wrapping on A4 paper when I print?
[00:29] <michael__> if i wanted to try xfce and want it as default de instead of kde can i delete kde and only use xfce or is it best to install xubuntu ?
[00:29] <stahlie> DexterF, ok   blkid will tell me what uuid is my windows drive?
[00:30] <DexterF> stahlie: should.
[00:30] <zak_> that is, synaptic window flashes briefly on screen, then disappears, and a memory segmentation error gets printed to sderr/sdout if I am root already
[00:30] <cara> for some reason I was thinking we were in 2011
[00:30] <cara> to much cold meds
[00:30] <cara> *too
[00:30] <cara> I only asked because I was wondering when 12.04 was coming out LOL
[00:30] <cara> and lag
[00:30] <FloodBot1> cara: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <Photon-Phoenix> Is there anyway to manually activate the Intel 82852/82855 drivers that came with Oneiric?
[00:30] <cara> lol I'm lagging not flooding
[00:30] <zak_> if using sudo / gksudo to start synaptic, no error message is printed to the terminal
[00:31] <spacebug-> zak_: I think I have had that problem once but can't remember where the problem where. Maybe with some of the source-lists or something
[00:31] <stahlie> DexterF, blkid as in block device id library?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> cara: look at the version number, then have a wild guess
[00:31] <DexterF> stahlie: dunno. possible.
[00:31] <zak_> ok ill look into that, spacebug.
[00:32] <cara> ActionParsnip, I know its coming out in April of this year
[00:32] <cara> I just had a brainfart thinking it was 2011
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> cara: ;)
[00:33] <stahlie> DexterF, i've never used blkid before...how do you identify UUID with blkid?  I ran like blkid -U /dev/sda2 and nothing happened
[00:34] <DexterF> stahlie: just jun blkid
[00:34] <DexterF> liek that
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> stahlie: sudo blkid | grep sda2
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> DexterF: blkid needs sudo
[00:35] <Photon-Phoenix> Is there anyway to manually activate the Intel 82852/82855 drivers that came with Oneiric? <-- They didn't install since my graphics in sysinfo are "Unknown"
[00:35] <stahlie> ActionParsnip,  yes sudo helped..
[00:35] <bluezone_> wouldn't it be nice if we could install more than 1 thing at a time? :)
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Photon-Phoenix: you may need an xorg.conf file to make the display as you wish
[00:35] <spacebug-> zak_: of try start it with 'sudo gdb synaptic'
[00:35] <ohdae> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help, you were right about the dos2unix issue
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> bluezone_: it'd compromise the integrity of the packages. The windows installer is exactly the same
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> ohdae: don't think it was me. I believe it was ikonia
[00:36] <ohdae> Ah well thanks either way heh
[00:36] <bluezone_> ActionParsnip, "integrity" ?
[00:36] <DexterF> oh, great, I upgraded to precise by accident. good thing it's only my tinker laptop...
[00:36] <ohdae> :D
[00:36] <ohdae> ttyl guys
[00:36] <cara> brb
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> bluezone_: sure, you could install a package with one terminal then uninstall some app with another which may affect the install. It'd be a mess
[00:39] <jwp121> Is there a way to have one gpg key that works on two computers?
[00:40] <jwp121> nm I found a guide with the pros and cons through google.
[00:40] <bluezone_> ActionParsnip, hmm, well even programs like jockey-gtk will disallow installing other apps even if it's not installing (while it's downloading the driver for instance)
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> bluezone_: the semaphore is still taken, but I see your point
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> bluezone_: personally I think the packages should be extracting while the other packages are downloading too, rather than download them all then extract them all
[00:43] <zak_> spacebug-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/811345/
[00:43] <bluezone_> ActionParsnip, hmm maybe there's an underground way to do it hehe
[00:45] <spacebug-> zak_: hum.. prova dra in libc6 igen då
[00:45] <alpha-aquilae> hello everybody. I have a file in my desktop which name is written in strange characters "  p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  ��� ��Ӄٴ� ������", chan i try do delete it, it says "the file or folder /home/... does not exist". how can I delete this file?
[00:45] <jwp121> bluezone_:You can download multiple DEs at the same time, with no problem.  Your just going to see all the default programs from one on the other.
[00:46] <matti_> alpha-aquilae: have you tried the -f flag?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> bluezone_: I use apt-fast to make downloads faster. Can help things]
[00:47] <kerin> trying to set up WebDav on ubuntu 10.04, followed this set of instructions:  http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-webdav-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-10.04 but I'm getting a 403 forbidden when I try to connect. any advice?
[00:47] <alpha-aquilae> matti_: I can't write the file name (even using autocompletion)
[00:47] <rebe> is it safe to enable "in" and "out" connections in firewall settings for transmission client port ?
[00:48] <sam___> want to connect my ubuntu box to wifi in /etc/interfaces
[00:48] <spacebug-> zak_: maybe take a look at this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/889592
[00:48] <ubuntunoob> found out how to get my buttons working on my macbook
[00:48] <matti_> alpha-aquilae: it could be that you are looking in the wrong directory.  i believe the Desktop is it's own folder
[00:48] <sam___> is say a https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[00:48] <ubuntunoob> but the volume button still doesnt work correctly
[00:48] <sam___> and it doesn't really say about WPA/WPA2
[00:49] <sam___> but i say wireless-enc s:Secret_password
[00:49] <sam___> will that do?
[00:49] <ubuntunoob> wut about wpa_supplicant ?
[00:49] <alpha-aquilae> matti_: no I am lookin in the right directory
[00:49] <matti_> alpha-aquilae: what does "ls -al <filename>" say?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> zak_: there are software centre alternatives on omgubuntu
[00:50] <alpha-aquilae> matti_: well I can't write the filename
[00:50] <zak_> spacebug-, that nailed it! Thanks :)
[00:50] <alpha-aquilae> matti_: because of the unrecognized characters
[00:51] <zak_> "LC_ALL=C synaptic" works flawlessly
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> zak_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-easily-install-the-slickest-software-center-on-linux/
[00:51] <ubuntunoob> i used pommed
[00:51] <matti_> alpha-aquilae: interesting... would you be able to copy/paste it since the file is on your desktop?
[00:51] <ubuntunoob> and it works perfectly
[00:51] <matti_> alpha-aquilae: the filename, i mean... copy/paste it into the terminal
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> zak_: could make an alias in ~/.bashrc
[00:51] <rebe> is it safe to enable "in" and "out" connections in firewall settings for transmission client port ?
[00:51] <ubuntunoob> but for some reason the voluhme buttons dont work
[00:51] <alpha-aquilae> matti_: no, it is just visible in the desktop, I can't move it and I can't rename it
[00:52] <ubuntunoob> volume*
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> rebe: I would
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunoob: do they make events in xev?
[00:52] <matti_> alpha-aquilae: i am not sure then, sorry :(
[00:52] <ubuntunoob> idk let me check
[00:52] <spacebug-> zak_: nice =)
[00:53] <zak_> ActionParsnip: yep, will do. spacebug-: thanks a bunch for finding that link :)
[00:54] <ubuntunoob> actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/811354/
[00:54] <spacebug-> zak_: yw
[00:55] <bluezone_> err i'm having trouble getting the sound to output to the television via HDMI, the video works fine. My card is NVIDIA 8400M,
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunoob: in keyboard settings, click on the volume up entry then press your shortcut
[00:56] <bluezone_> the sound plays off the computer not the TV
[00:58] <kerin> trying to set up WebDav on ubuntu 10.04, followed this set of instructions:  http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-webdav-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-10.04 but I'm getting a 403 forbidden when I try to connect. any advice?
[01:00] <Penguin9> How do I know if Ubuntu is right for me?
[01:01] <sdz> Can someone here teach me how to troll with ubuntu?
[01:01] <bluezone_> Penguin9, well, youll need a lot of patience if you're starting out
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Penguin9: try it and see
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Penguin9: try a liveCD or liveUSB and you can try it
[01:02] <linxeh> Penguin9: what kind of things do you want to do on your computer ?
[01:02] <Photon-Phoenix> Do I open xorg.conf with gedit to change its settings?
[01:02] <Photon-Phoenix> Just making sure
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Photon-Phoenix: you will need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to get write access
[01:03] <Photon-Phoenix> k
[01:04] <ubuntunoob> hey actionparsnip
[01:04] <gerinych> is it possible to set up a server that can host ubuntu for a computer without a hard drive?
[01:04] <ubuntunoob> my macbook froze so i had to restart
[01:05] <ubuntunoob> you said go to the keyboard settings right?
[01:06] <Guest47126> !time
[01:07] <adac> after an upgrade to 11.10 i cannot start ubuntu anymore. it hangs on boot right after starting the monit daemon... what can I do now?
[01:08] <ubuntunoob> blacklist the monit daemon?
[01:09] <ubuntunoob> thats all i can think of
[01:09] <Guest47126> Anyone knows if there's a ZevenOS chat room up & running yet!?
[01:10] <bencc> I'm using the ubuntu stun package which requires two IPs. Is it possible to use one ipv4 and one ipv6 ip?
[01:10] <ubuntunoob> the volume works but it only adjusts the system noises and not the speaker
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest47126: If you want to visit our IRC Channel goto irc.freenode.net Channel #zevenos
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest47126: got that from their site...
[01:11] <Guest47126> Cool, thanks!
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest47126: you could have easily found that...
[01:16] <adac> after an upgrade to 11.10 i cannot start ubuntu anymore. it hangs on boot right after starting the monit daemon... what can I do now?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> adac: what GPU do you use?
[01:20] <adac> ActionParsnip, Intel GMA X4500
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> adac: try the boot option: nomodeset
[01:23] <adac> ActionParsnip, does this go into the line: Linux /boot/vmlinuz..... root=UUID....
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | adac
[01:28] <regedarek_> test
[01:28] <adac> ActionParsnip, no luck unfortunaly :(
[01:29] <philipg> I need help I need to disable shortcut keys because it is interfering with software  i Use
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> adac: when the OS starts to boot, press ESC and you can watch the boot
[01:32] <adac> ActionParsnip, yes it simply hangs after getting up monit daemon
[01:32] <adac> there is no message what is wrong it just doesn't contiune
[01:32] <adac> ca i get a full root console somehow back at least?
[01:32] <adac> *can I
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> adac: hold shift at boot, selectrecovery mode, select root
[01:35] <adac> ActionParsnip, ok I'm in it
[01:38] <joeko> I am trying to configure a desktop system using preseeding, However I need to install the thunderbird-locale-en-us package.
[01:38] <jotape> hi
[01:41] <Riberty> how do i stop recordmydesktop?
[01:41] <Joe50_Ohms> Will the latest to be release, be having a 5-Year LTS just like Ubuntu & company!?
[01:41] <Joe50_Ohms> ->Xubuntu
[01:42] <Gregor_The_Miner> Riberty you can find it in the processes bar or end it from the System Monitor.
[01:42] <trimeta> Is there a single command to remove a named PPA, as there is to add one?
[01:42] <trimeta> (I'm on Lucid.)
[01:42] <acerimmer> Joe50_Ohms: i'm pretty sure all official variants x/l/k/ubuntu will be LTS 5 year supprt
[01:42] <Riberty> Gregor_The_Miner> i dont want to end the process. i want to stop the recording
[01:43] <Joe50_Ohms> I see! :-)  Thanks acerimmer!
[01:43] <Gregor_The_Miner> Then find the process (I forget where Unity stores them), right click it, and hit stop recording.
[01:46]  * dies_irae wonders why pulseaudio is hogging 6% of CPU
[01:49] <andrei> hi & bye for tonight
[01:50] <andrei> got to have some sleep
[01:51] <andrei> sooo many years withour wriin a line on IRC !
[01:51] <andrei> so see you later guys
[01:52] <dies_irae> wriin??
[01:53] <dies_irae> oh 'writing'
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: lubuntu 12.04 isn't lts
[02:01] <acerimmer> ActionParsnip: whaaa?  So the official derivatives do NOT adhere to the LTS scheme??  Good/sad to know.
[02:02] <spacebug-> acerimmer: kubuntu,edubuntu,ubuntu is LTS five years and xubuntu LTS three years
[02:02] <spacebug-> I hope I got that right
[02:02] <Gregor_The_Miner> Speaking of derivatives, will there ever be one with Gnome-shell used as the default desktop environment?
[02:02] <acerimmer> lubuntu: y u no LTS?
[02:03] <spacebug-> Gregor_The_Miner: I've heard rumers about it
[02:03] <spacebug-> acerimmer: probably not big enough community/developers
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/lubuntu-12-04-news-roundup/
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: you can still install ubuntu minimal and install LXDE on it without issue though ;)
[02:05] <acerimmer> ActionParsnip: will definitely consider that.  My flavor is Ubuntu Studio which is switching to XFCE.  I'd rather it went with LXDE...
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: you can install lxde and use all the apps you see in the xubuntu session
[02:14] <isaac_> Uhm hi, can someone help me? Ubuntu was working fine, but now when I boot up it doesn't show the grub screen and goes straight to a black terminal like screen and says "Minimal BASH-like editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device, file completions."
[02:14] <isaac_> Please and thank you :)
[02:14] <acerimmer> isaac_: is this a wubi installation???
[02:15] <isaac_> Hmm. I can't remember :< it was so long ago.
[02:15] <isaac_> I have windows on it too, though.
[02:21] <isaac_> Ok, it's a wubi install, acerimmer
[02:22] <acerimmer> isaac_: boot windows, defrag.  BTW, the error you see is QUITE common with wubi.  Consider installing a proper dual boot.
[02:22] <isaac_> What caused it? I never use windows, so :/
[02:23] <isaac_> And the only thing I use ubuntu for is as a webserver so I can learn some website development and etc
[02:23] <almoxarife> acerimmer: perhaps then you can lead isaac_ to the quite common fix?
[02:23] <acerimmer> isaac_: I honestly don't know why.
[02:23] <almoxarife> isaac_: you got a grub screen and nothing else?
[02:26] <acerimmer> almoxarife: looks like he's away.  For the record, what's the common fix for a fractured wubi install?
[02:26] <AlexandreMBM> Hi! I am using 11.04 and Unity 2D. Bugs: icons GTK, launcher, slow. The 11.10 is better?
[02:27] <almoxarife> acerimmer: rebuilding 'wubibuilder' on the win side ususally did it for me
[02:27] <acerimmer> almoxarife: new info to me.  I'll take a look, thanks.
[02:28] <bullgard6> AlexandreMBM: Your message is to short to be comprehensible. What do you object in Ubuntu 11.04 Unity 2D?
[02:29] <bullgard6> AlexandreMBM: Your message is too short to be comprehensible. What do you object in Ubuntu 11.04 Unity 2D?
[02:30] <wwwd> Can someone clarify? When building software from source is it always possible to run said from within the build directory w/o doing an install?
[02:32] <basso> wwwd: that should be possible
[02:32] <spacebug-> wwwd: I would say it depends on the program
[02:33] <bullgard6> wwd That depends. When you build a software that needs installing then you do need installing it first before you can run it.
[02:34] <wwwd> And if I install with make checkinstall, will it always be readilly removable?
[02:34] <AlexandreMBM> bullgard6: sorry, I don't speak english
[02:34] <djvintage> !list
[02:35] <bullgard6> AlexandreMBM: What is your native language?
[02:35] <AlexandreMBM> bullgard6: I am brazilian and I want to know if 11.10 fix 10.04 bugs and It don't break staff others.
[02:36] <AlexandreMBM> bullgard6: portuguese
[02:36] <acerimmer> !portuguese|bullgard6
[02:37] <djvintage> !list
[02:37] <djvintage> !bot
[02:38] <wwwd> AlexandreMVM: Your speaking it, just in the wrong order. Your organization is scruwed. And my spelling sucks...and it is my native language!
[02:38] <AlexandreMBM> acerimmer: I was in #ubuntu-br just
[02:38] <bullgard6> AlexandreMBM: My experience is that Ubuntu 11.10 has eliminated several Gtk bugs which appeared in Ubuntu 11.04 but not all. On the other hand it introduced new bugs.
[02:40] <AlexandreMBM> wwwd: what is scruwed?
[02:40] <wwwd> AlexandreMVM: Wrong!
[02:40] <thechad90000> I could really use help. I'm having a ton of trouble with Gnome 3.2 desktop environment. Please check this out and let me know if there's anything you all can do to help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1912555
[02:40] <wwwd> in the biblical sence...
[02:41] <wwwd> basso: Does checkinstall always make a program "uninstallable"?
[02:41] <zacarias> i want to make a bachup in a drive where I have my Mac's backup's, but the backup apps teell me I don't have the permissions. Is it because of the ownership or of the filesystem (HFS+)?
[02:42] <AlexandreMBM> bullgard6: the dist-upgrade is worth?
[02:42] <bullgard6> AlexandreMBM: Yes.
[02:42] <wwwd> zacarias: Did you start it from a comand line or point and click?
[02:42] <basso> wwwd: that i have no idea about
[02:43] <wwwd> Buller, Buller, Anyone!
[02:43] <RyuGuns> Is it safe to remove zeitgeist?
[02:43] <zacarias> wwwd: for backing up? I browsed the hd from the browser within the app (SimpleBackup, in this case)
[02:43] <AlexandreMBM> bullgard6: do you can list the advantages?
[02:44] <wwwd> Not sure but it may work if  you start it from comandline w/ sudo simplebackjp
[02:44] <zacarias> wwwd: ok...
[02:44] <wwwd> If not you may need to make sure you have write permission on the drive or file.
[02:45] <AlexandreMBM> There is a collection of patches for 10.04?
[02:45] <AlexandreMBM> Oops!
[02:45] <AlexandreMBM> 11.04
[02:46] <AlexandreMBM> There is a collection of patches for 11.04
[02:46] <AlexandreMBM> ?
[02:46] <zacarias> wwwd: Ihaven't. I tried to change it by cd to the media directory, then sudo chown myname -R, but it didn't work
[02:46] <|Slacker|> hello...is there a command to check which video driver ubuntu is using?
[02:47] <thechad90000> Can anyone help me out...I'm very frustrated with this Gnome 3.2 environment. It looks exactly like Gnome classic. The thing is I've installed it correctly from the software center and I'm logged into the right account. Anyone know what can help?
[02:47] <wwwd> zacarias: Sorry? What do yo mean "I haven't"
[02:47] <wwwd> zacarias:did you do a ls -l on it to see what the permission is?
[02:48] <zacarias> wwwd: I don't have the permissions,
[02:48] <bullgard6> AlexandreMBM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PsgE-L9XEU, http://lifehacker.com/5836779/first-look-at-ubuntu-linux-1110-oneiric-ocelot-beta
[02:48] <styelz> zacarias: chown -R name ..
[02:48] <zacarias> ok maybe I was wrong with the command, I'll try again
[02:49] <wwwd> zacarias: try doing a chmod u+wr file/name.
[02:50] <zacarias> wwwd: I'll try that
[02:50] <ArnoldMartinAddM> forgive me 1st time in irc, how to bring-up ubuntu?, parted disk,installed xp, now ubuntu gone
[02:51] <wwwd> ArnoldMartinAddM: Are you saying you tried to install xp after ubuntu and now ubuntu is gone?
[02:51] <RyuGuns> Is it safe to remove zeitgeist?
[02:52] <ArnoldMartinAddM> I used gparted, shrunk the disk it was installed to and then put xp in the space
[02:53] <fman23> ArnoldMartinAddM: it sounds like you wiped your mbr when u installed widnows
[02:53] <fman23> ArnoldMartinAddM: windows doesnt recognize ubuntu so it cant boot ubuntu, but ubuntu can boot windows
[02:53] <fman23> ArnoldMartinAddM: so u need to restore grub to the mbr using a livecd
[02:54] <ArnoldMartinAddM> what are the commands?
[02:54] <styelz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:54] <fman23> one second, im googling them
[02:54] <bullgard6> RyuGuns: I should think so, yes.
[02:54] <wwwd> ArnoldMartinAddM:Can't say for sure but xp probably reformated the drive and then installed. My understanding is that you need to install MS products first, then linux. MS wants to be in the first sectors of the drive...and it is greedy and over bearing!
[02:55] <ArnoldMartinAddM> I installed ubuntu 1st then shrunk the partion then installed xp in the space
[02:55] <Darkfrost> Okay, weird question here - I had ubuntu installed to a 16gb memory stick, would boot from it fine, I cloned that to another 16gb memory stick, when I try and boot off that one, all I get is a black screen with the letter j on it. Any ideas what I broke and how to fix it?
[02:55] <wwwd> RyuGuns: The GOP has gotten away with it!
[02:55] <RyuGuns> Zeitgeist is a CPU rapist.
[02:58] <wwwd> Darkfrost: Read an rsync tutorial that created a mountable backup which spoke about changing the mount point, maybe? I will try and find it.
[02:59] <AlexandreMBM> bullgard6: thank you. bye
[03:00] <RyuGuns> What is applet.py ?
[03:00] <RyuGuns> It's in my process list but I don't know what it is.
[03:00] <Gregor_The_Miner> Kill it and see.
[03:00] <wwwd> DarkFrost: fstab settings. Don't know if this will help but look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync
[03:00] <joli> hello there
[03:01] <joli> i have instaled apache and php
[03:01] <wwwd> RyuGuns: Or google it. The googles know all!
[03:01] <joli> i need to acess an mysql outside my box
[03:01] <RyuGuns> I did :(
[03:01] <joli> so i don't intend to install mysql here
[03:01] <wwwd> DarkFrost: if it helps you can come back and explain why!
[03:01] <joli> how do i do in order to PHP work with mysql?
[03:02] <joli> in phpinfo output can't seem nothing realetd to mysql
[03:02] <joli> *related
[03:02] <wwwd> RyuGuns: try running it from the command line and see what happens.
[03:04] <ambadi> HELLO TO ALL
[03:04] <tmaster> Hi, I have this script:  http://pastebin.com/Jj4T9Esq
[03:04] <ambadi> I AM JITH 41
[03:04] <tmaster> when I run it, it gives an error saying that -u is an illegal option
[03:04] <tmaster> but ulimit -u works when I try it in the terminal directly
[03:09] <wwwd> tmaster: man ulimit says it is obsolete. use getrlimit, setrlimit, and synconf but you would probably get better info at #bash.
[03:10] <Sample> Q: I don't care much for the windowed environment of linux (makes me feel like all my apps were written in Delphi), and the terminal is obviously it's strong point. I'd really like to setup xmonad on top of an Ubunto install, however I would certainly still need a Browser on a separate monitor. Is it possible to run both the xmonad windowed terminal environment AND a desktop environment with
[03:10] <Sample> a browser simultaneously on different monitors? (almost seems like it wouldn't be)
[03:10] <Sample> its*
[03:10] <Sample> Ubuntu*
[03:10] <Sample> browser*
[03:10] <Sample> =P
[03:11] <hydrox24> Hi guys, I am looking to stream dvb-t over the network. Anyone know how?
[03:12] <hydrox24> anyone?
[03:13] <Darkfrost> Thanks wwwd, I'll check it out :) (Slow reply - Sorry!)
[03:13] <jackman> zak.lewis@cadre.net   brian.crouch@cadre.net == untouchables : we pwn U
[03:16] <indystorm> What is the correct package to install to get Java websites working in Chromium?
[03:17] <cipher__> Has anyone attempted to install Ubuntu on a xps 15z here? (Or is the individual that was assisting me seeing this?)
[03:18] <hydrox24> indystorm: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[03:18] <hydrox24> indystorm: Run that install command
[03:19] <Hexaditidom> Hi everyone. I am so very close to connecting to the internet and would like help. Here is what I have so far. http://pastebin.com/kvHwehW1
[03:20] <hydrox24> Hexaditidom: looking into it
[03:20] <cipher__> After I install ubuntu will I be given a chance to enter pre-boot arguments? Like pcie_aspm=force or acpi=noirq?
[03:20] <hydrox24> cipher__: using grub, hit e to edit the boot line on whicever entry you want.
[03:21] <hydrox24> Hexaditidom: What OS are you running?
[03:21] <cipher__> hydrox24: thanks
[03:21] <Hexaditidom> hydrox24: Ubuntu 10.04
[03:21] <cipher__> Hopefully I will not manage to semi-brick my laptop again with grub :P
[03:21] <hydrox24> cipher__: It is indeed one of the scarier aspects to computers (grub, that is)
[03:21] <hicham> hi, i like to install flashplayer
[03:22] <cipher__> here goes the install :S
[03:22] <cipher__> *which me luck*
[03:22] <cipher__> mish*
[03:22] <cipher__> wish*
[03:22] <cipher__> :@
[03:22] <FloodBot1> cipher__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <hydrox24> Hexaditidom: right, and can you upload to pastebin the output of ifconfig once you've put the wlan0 interface "down"
[03:23] <indystorm> Thanks!!!
[03:23] <Hexaditidom> okay
[03:23] <hydrox24> indystorm: no problemo
[03:23] <hicham> how to install flashplayer?
[03:23] <boylove> which distro is best for encrypting child porn
[03:23] <hydrox24> Hexaditidom: so it's an issue with an extremely premature and out of place "timout"
[03:24] <hydrox24> hicham: what browser are you using?
[03:24] <cipher__> only 7 gigs of 750gb are showing for partitioning?
[03:24] <cipher__> Do I need to go clean files and such from windows?
[03:24] <bullgard6> !ot | boylove
[03:24] <boylove> which distro is best for encrypting child porn
[03:24] <hydrox24> boylove: fedora provides home drive encryption and allows you to enter the password on starup, it's very secure.
[03:24] <boylove> oh
[03:24] <boylove> thanks
[03:25] <hydrox24> boylove: no problem, but now that we have your IP, well be sending that to your local police :)
[03:25] <cipher__> boylove: I recommend truecrypt and a usb
[03:25] <cipher__> that's what my uncle uses
[03:25] <hydrox24> boylove: agree with cipher__
[03:25] <hydrox24> cipher__: 0.0
[03:25] <cipher__> for work*
[03:25] <hydrox24> cipher__: aaaaah.. *breaths out*
[03:25] <jughead88> is there any difference between Xchat and Xchat-Gnome?
[03:25] <cipher__> lol
[03:26] <hydrox24> jughead88: not anything significant
[03:26] <hicham> can anyone tell me how to install flashplayer?
[03:26] <acerimmer> jughead88: functionally, no.
[03:26] <hydrox24> hicham: what browser do you use!
[03:26] <cipher__> I have only 7 gb available for partitioning on a 750bg hdd. Is there an issue with Window$ Stealing my HDD space?
[03:26] <bullgard6> hicham: Do you mean that Firefox plugin?
[03:26] <jughead88> ok Thanks
[03:27] <thechad90000> I could really really use some help. I have a Gnome 3.2 installation issue. It looks like Gnome Classic but I've installed everything the way I'm supposed to. Here's the thread that details my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1912555
[03:27] <hydrox24> cipher__: you may need to derag...
[03:27] <thechad90000> Someone please help me out
[03:27] <Hexaditidom> hydrox24: http://pastebin.com/f9pWPGqm
[03:27] <cipher__> defrag?
[03:27] <hicham> bullgard6 yes
[03:27] <hydrox24> Hexaditidom: that shows that the wlan0 device actually is down, yet iwconfig still shows APs?
[03:28] <cipher__> hydrox24: I just want to make sure before I spend some odd hours performing this, you do mean defragment?
[03:29] <hydrox24> cipher__: yes :)
[03:29] <cipher__> hydrox24: Thank you, will do that.
[03:29] <hydrox24> thechad90000: looks like the best solution would be to do an i=unistall of gnome-shell and reinstall
[03:29] <Hexaditidom> hydrox24: iwconfig has wlan0. When trying to connect, wlan0 also lists the ESSID of access point I want to connect to. And iwlist still lists ap's
[03:30] <thechad90000> hydrox24: I've already tried that numerous times and it still doesn't help anything
[03:30] <jughead88> yeah just try sudo apt-get install gnome-shell in terminal
[03:30] <hydrox24> Hexaditidom: very strange... what sort of car do you have?
[03:30] <hydrox24> Hexaditidom: *card*
[03:30] <Hexaditidom> hahaha, was gonna say :P
[03:30] <thechad90000> jughead88: That's what I've been doing. And I'm getting the same problem
[03:31] <hicham> how come i can t play videos like this? http://www.footytube.com/video/real-madrid-barcelona-jan18-102090?ref=hp_ozeit_mp
[03:31] <Hexaditidom> hydrox24: No card, USB device. Wireless adapter - Netgear WNDA3100. Installed ndiswrapper and it seems to work
[03:31] <jughead88> even with the complamentary files install ?
[03:31] <jughead88> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[03:31] <jughead88> sudo apt-get update
[03:31] <jughead88> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:31] <FloodBot1> jughead88: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <bullgard6> hicham: Open Firefox > Tools  > Get Add-ons > Shockwave Flash
[03:32] <hydrox24> I suggest you use the open-source drivers or proprietary rather than windows
[03:32] <hydrox24> so uninstall the ndiswrapper stuff
[03:33] <thechad90000> jughead88: I'm giving that a shot
[03:33] <Hexaditidom> hydrox24: Hmm. I'll see what I can find then.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> hicham: can you make a pastebin of the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark      Thanks
[03:34] <erase> hi, installed 11.10. Previously was using 10.10. sun-java-* aren't in the repositories anymore. how can i install sun java?
[03:34] <erase> thanks
[03:35] <hydrox24> Hi guys, I am looking to stream dvb-t over the network. Anyone know how?
[03:35] <hicham> bullgard6 i have this plugin all ready
[03:35] <thechad90000> jughead88: I suppose once that is finished I should log out and log back in or restart my computer to see if it works?
[03:35] <Gregor_The_Miner> erase I think that java.com has it available on the download page.
[03:36] <hicham> actionparsnip i am new at ubuntu, so this is chinese for me
[03:37] <codazoda> My MacBook Pro (7,1) won't boot the 3.0.14 or 3.0.15 kernels. If I use 3.0.13 it boots fine.  Any thoughts on what to look for?  It stops at the ubuntu screen after all the dots fill in.
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> hicham: press CTRL+ALT+T and paste the command to the terminal, copy the output and go to http://pastie.org
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> hicham: paste the text there and hit paste, when the page changes, copy the new address in the address bar and paste it here
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> codazoda: what video chip dos it use?
[03:38] <hicham> axtionparsnip whitch command?
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> hicham: the one you said was 'chines'....
[03:40] <Gregor_The_Miner> hicham, when you try pasting it to the terminal use ctrl+shift+v, not just ctrl+v.
[03:40] <codazoda> ActionParsnip it's using the  nVidia GeForce 320M.  I think I added ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates and then installed nvidia-current, but it was way back.
[03:40] <hicham> actionparsnip this code? lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> codazoda: I suggest you uninstall the nvidia driver then boot to the newer kernel and reinstall it
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> codazoda: you are using a 3rd party ppa which we cannot support here
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> hicham: yes
[03:42] <hicham> lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark
[03:42] <hicham> No LSB modules are available.
[03:42] <hicham> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[03:42] <hicham> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[03:43] <hicham> Release:	11.10
[03:43] <FloodBot1> hicham: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <hicham> Codename:	oneiric
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> hicham: use the pastebin!!!!
[03:43] <Stormx2> NTFS filesystems being mounted as RO. Here's my fstab line: "UUID=6DBD943E7D19BBB4 /media/sexy     ntfs    rw,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0       0". What's the issue?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> hicham: I clearly stated go to http://pastie.org   didn't I..?
[03:43] <codazoda> ActionParsnip: Last time I tried to remove nvidia it took a while to get it to boot at all.  What's the best process for removing it? Just apt-get remove nvidia-current then remove the ppa?
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> codazoda: sounds like a good move, not sure what else it will remove
[03:44] <codazoda> ActionParsnip: Okay, I may try that again.  If it doesn't work I'll just reinstall from scratch.
[03:44] <hicham> actionparsnip i went to pastie, i pasted, but what next?
[03:45] <codazoda> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the tip.
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> Stormx2: try: UUID=12102C02102CEB83 /media/windows ntfs-3g auto,users,permissions 0 0
[03:45] <Stormx2> ActionParsnip, cheers
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> codazoda: well, you added the ppa, what do you expect? Did you read all the warnings on the ppa
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Stormx2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Stormx2: I'd comment your line out so you can keep it in the file
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> hicham: copy the address in the address bar and paste that here
[03:46] <thechad90000> jughead88: I did what you said to do and nothing happened. My terminal went crazy for forever but I still have the same desktop environment as before
[03:47] <thechad90000> jughead88: anymore ideas?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> Stormx2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18067/how-to-add-ntfs-partition-to-fstab
[03:47] <codazoda> ActionParsnip: I'm sure I didn't.  Sorry, I didn't mean for my uninstall comment to sound like a complaint, it wasn't meant as one.  It's been a long time, I've got who knows what junk laying around in here...
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> codazoda: hehe time for a clean out :)
[03:51] <destryalhmns> how do you use the workspace?
[03:51] <destryalhmns> i keep getting things off screen that i expect to be on the same screen
[03:52] <destryalhmns> like this window is stuck below the window i want...
[03:54] <CuriousX> aloha =)
[04:00] <CuriousX> aloha i am using ubuntu 11.10 and i thik that i installed a wrong PPA for compiz =P looks http://paste.ubuntu.com/811472/
[04:00] <CuriousX> can help on it please ? =(
[04:01] <hydrox24> thechad90000: and you've switched to the gnome option?
[04:01] <CuriousX> i want to fix that message "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/compiz/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found"
[04:02] <CuriousX> i wish =P
[04:02] <CuriousX> i tryed doing: ppa-purg ppa:compiz but nothing =(
[04:03] <bullgard6> What precisely does output  '~$ ip route show'?  'man ip' does not seem to explain this.
[04:03] <CuriousX> i did, apt-add-repository ppa:compiz ç, is that ok ?
[04:04] <destryalhmns> anyone?
[04:04] <CuriousX> please
[04:04] <destryalhmns> he workspace switcher has pwned my screen
[04:04] <destryalhmns> i have porn up to but cnn on the bottom
[04:05] <destryalhmns> they must be united
[04:05] <UnknownFork> I have dual booted Ubuntu with Windows XP, and whenever I try to boot Ubuntu it is very slow and there is only half a screen
[04:05] <destryalhmns> sry, *up top
[04:05] <joaquin> whats up?
[04:05] <KeithWeisshar> which iso should i download for ubuntu 11.10, cd or dvd?
[04:05] <destryalhmns> i dont know the anwer but... half a screen?  --hahahaha... i have two screens
[04:05] <destryalhmns> how old is your computer?
[04:06] <UnknownFork> 10 years
[04:06] <UnknownFork> My laptop is new though
[04:06] <destryalhmns> 10 years might explain it
[04:06] <UnknownFork> And I'm running it on my desktop
[04:06] <UnknownFork> I thought so
[04:06] <KeithWeisshar> should i download the cd version or dvd version?
[04:06] <UnknownFork> DVD
[04:06] <destryalhmns> idk though, that is just a guess, im a noob here too
[04:07] <KeithWeisshar> does the dvd version only have language packs?
[04:07] <UnknownFork> Yes
[04:07] <zantiosx> KeithWeisshar: cd if you have a fast connection
[04:08] <KeithWeisshar> what should i use to burn the iso from windows
[04:08] <zantiosx> right click ‎it and hit burn to disc at the top of the menu
[04:09] <Moult> i've got a remote box i set up for somebody on ubuntu - they use the software center to manage their software, but i sometimes ssh in and use aptitude. do the two talk to each other and cooperate? (I assume they all use apt-get underneath)
[04:09] <KeithWeisshar> what iso burning software do i need to burn a cd from windows
[04:09] <Puma1337> Hey, I was wondering if someone would help me real quick.  I'm trying to create a fairly simple alias: http://paste.ubuntu.com/811477/ but when I run source .bashrc I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/811478/.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[04:10] <Puma1337> KeithWeisshar, try imgburn
[04:10] <Moult> Puma1337: remove the spaces between the = ?
[04:10] <zantiosx> KeithWeisshar: win 7 you can just right click the iso and burn
[04:11] <Puma1337> Moult, LOL
[04:11] <KeithWeisshar> the windows 7 iso burning doesn't actually finalize the disc, it leaves disc open
[04:11] <Puma1337> Moult, thanks so much
[04:11] <DerpyHoovy> Fresh dual boot install - windows 7 & ubuntu - getting error: unknown filesystem, grub rescue> - just finished installing ubuntu - my drive setup is: /dev/sda1 - Windows Bootloader; /dev/sda2 - Windows - 1.5TB; /dev/sda3 - Ubuntu - 1.5TB; /dev/sda4/ - Swap - 8GB
[04:11] <DerpyHoovy> can anyone help?
[04:11] <Moult> Puma1337: np :)
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> KeithWeisshar: remember to MD5 test the ISO
[04:11] <zantiosx> UltraISO is good as well
[04:11] <KeithWeisshar> the windows 7 built-in iso burner doesn't finalize the disc, it leave the disc open for additiona files the same way the burn disc from windows explorer in mastered format does
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> KeithWeisshar: could try infrarecorder
[04:12] <KeithWeisshar> there is a bug in the windows 7 iso burner that leaves the disc open after burning
[04:12] <UnknownFork> Wubi is good
[04:12] <Puma1337> KeithWeisshar, imgburn is lightweight and really good
[04:12] <KeithWeisshar> imgburn always finalizes the disc
[04:12] <UnknownFork> Wubi is best
[04:13] <UnknownFork> Just install Wubi
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> UnknownFork: its ok for a quick test, as a longterm solution its not great
[04:13] <KeithWeisshar> is wubi only included on the cd version of ubuntu
[04:13] <UnknownFork> What do you reccomend for a longterm solution then?
[04:14] <KeithWeisshar> is wubi only on the cd version and not the dvd version
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> UnknownFork: true install to an Ext4 partition
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> KeithWeisshar: its on both
[04:15] <KeithWeisshar> does wubi have a bug where it fails to clean up the windows boot loader after uninstall on 64-bit systems
[04:16] <KeithWeisshar> dues wubi have a bug on 64-bit where it fails to remove ubuntu from the windows boot loader after uninstall
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> KeithWeisshar: not sure there, if you want an easy alternative to wubi, use virtualbox ;)
[04:18] <NeuralJack> Hello!  I seen to have buggered up my x server conf.  I have a totally blank desktop across two monitors except for my mouse cursor.  Could somepne please help me access my config file so I can undo my recent changes?
[04:18] <UnknownFork> I wish laptop companies other than Dell (Dell sucks) had Linux Distros such as Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, Debian, and OpenSuse preinstalled.
[04:19] <Chaorain> I have a small server setup but I keep getting "Index of" pages where it shows the files in that directory. I know that php and mysql work, I setup Kusaba X already.
[04:19] <Chaorain> its on a local network only.
[04:19] <opticlove> i have an encrypted home. if i delete the second OS partition and resize the one i want to use, will the space be allocated?
[04:19] <opticlove> or should i decrypt it?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> UnknownFork: system76
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> UnknownFork: my del latitude D420 runs ubuntu amazingly and al hardware works out of the box
[04:21] <Moult> NeuralJack: are you in X right now? you can use ctrl-alt-f1 (f2, f3, etc) to escape to a console.
[04:21] <osmosis> i just did a sudo apt-get upgrade, and it wants to download a   python-lazr.restfulclient  . How can I figure out what depends on this, not sure why I have it.
[04:21] <NeuralJack> Moult: Yes, I can get a console and log in that way.
[04:22] <Moult> NeuralJack: yes, then just vim your xorg.conf manually - i don't know where ubuntu has it, probably /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> UnknownFork: just because you aren't aware of the companies, doesn't mean they don't exist
[04:23] <KeithWeisshar> what's the current revision of wubi on the website
[04:23] <NeuralJack> Moult:  I'm a rookie Ubuntu user.  how do i break out of my Home Directory? (username@host:~$)
[04:24] <opticlove> cd <directory>
[04:24] <DerpyHoovy> NeuralJack: cd /
[04:24] <opticlove> Desktop is with a capital D
[04:26] <NeuralJack> Moult: I navigated to the vile, how do I sieze write perms to open and edit it?
[04:26] <NeuralJack> *File
[04:27] <Moult> NeuralJack: if a newbie, i'd recommend using "nano" as your text editor. use `sudo nano /path/to/your/xorg.conf`. sudo so that you get the perms. nano is a text editor.
[04:27] <trism> osmosis: apt-cache rdepends python-lazr.restfulclient;
[04:27] <osmosis> trism, thx!
[04:27] <opticlove> i have an encrypted home. if i delete the second OS partition and resize the one i want to use, will the space be allocated?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Moult: I use nano as a not-so newbie ;)
[04:29] <Moult> ActionParsnip: i'm hinting that there are alternatives
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Moult: no bad thing
[04:30] <oconnore> opticlove: encrypted home works the same way as a regular home, it's just encrypted. It is not an independant partition (unless your /home/user lives on an independant partition)
[04:31] <opticlove> oconnore: alright so i shouldn't have to decrypt it to reallocate more space to it, correct?
[04:33] <hugenumber> What is a good option for imaging my ubuntu?
[04:34] <NeuralJack> Moult:  Thanks for the help.  I'll be back in a few minutes to let you know if it worked or if I need more in-depth assistance.
[04:35] <Moult> NeuralJack: sure
[04:38] <NeuralJack> Moult:  Looks like that did it.  It was the Cinerama switch that was messing everything up.
[04:38] <mintman> hello
[04:38] <NeuralJack> Moult:  THanks again
[04:38] <Moult> NeuralJack: good to know
[04:38] <Moult> NeuralJack: np
[04:40] <mintman> what is the deal with cinnomon and gnome 3??? seen linux mint make the cinnamon desktop what direction is ubuntu headed in??
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> mintman: there is a ppa for cinnamon but its not supported here if you use it
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> mintman: ubuntu will probably use Unity for a long time
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> mintman: but it may change
[04:41] <troublebrewing> I have a giant black bar on the left of my screen whenever booting into xfce or lxde. can anybody assist me?
[04:42] <troublebrewing> cairo dock will still show over the black bar, but windows will be behind it
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> mintman: thats in gnome obviously. Lubuntu will look largely the same, as will Kubuntu
[04:46] <mintman> ActionParsnip: Just seeing the direction ubuntu is moving expermenting with linux mint link gnome desktop...  I plain on putting Arch linux back on system and running up Backtrack and expirement with Puppy linux intersting idea to allow all repostories to run under one linux version...
[04:47] <needshelpwithubu> I've reinstalled windows and ubuntu on top of each other many times and haven't had a problem until today.
[04:47] <needshelpwithubu> Ubuntu reports that the cable is unplugged. I don't see any flashing lights on the ethernet adapter.
[04:48] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: means cable not recieving signal need a new Cat5 or ethernet cable...
[04:49] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: I had windows 7 running perfectly this afternoon.
[04:49] <needshelpwithubu> And this was the second time I've had this problem, the first being a month ago.
[04:49] <urlin2u> needshelpwithubu, does is it work now?
[04:49] <mintman> Ok, is internet connection
[04:49] <needshelpwithubu> No, it's not.
[04:49] <urlin2u> needshelpwithubu, in windows?
[04:49] <needshelpwithubu> urlin2u: it worked the last time I was in windows
[04:50] <mintman> cable has kink in it need a new cable....
[04:50] <urlin2u> needshelpwithubu, boot windows and see if it does now.,
[04:50] <needshelpwithubu> And this came to my attention: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Configuring_Network#Realtek_no_link_.2F_WOL_issue
[04:50] <needshelpwithubu> I'm not sure if suddenly stopping windows 7 to install linux had anything to do with this.
[04:51] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: ur using ubuntu right???
[04:51] <needshelpwithubu> I've tried method 4 and I've had no luck, the others require me to reinstall windows.
[04:52] <dies_irae> needshelpwithubu: stopping m$$ 7?? how are you installing ubuntu??
[04:52] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: i tried linux mint first and had this problem. I tried installing ubuntu and got the same result.
[04:52] <needshelpwithubu> dies_irae: burned onto a cd
[04:53] <mintman> Is this ubuntu??? unrelated to ubuntu from a arch linux page.. Arch linux is setup of from scratch not preload that is the reason for method 4
[04:53] <dies_irae> needshelpwithubu: so what's the problemo??
[04:53] <needshelpwithubu> Hmm, last time I've had a succesful installation I instaled from a bootable usb
[04:54] <DerpyHoovy> I still have yet to have a successful dual boot on my new 3TB hard drive.
[04:54] <mintman> Ubuntu only needs an internet connection to load updated drivers for ubuntu archlinux requires a manual setup ...  Please dont confuse the to Linux iso's
[04:55] <babonk> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup Sun Java JDK and it's driving me kind of crazy.  Linux newb, but unable to find any instructions that work online.
[04:55] <mintman> the distros are different and ubuntu has a bigger support base for hadware
[04:55] <needshelpwithubu> dies_irae: ubuntu and linuxmint both reporting unplugged cable despite windows working properly a few hours before
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> mintman: try xpud too :)
[04:55] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: yes, I understand that
[04:55] <babonk> I need to install Sun JDK 1.6 (or h igher, I presume). OpenJDK is not supported by the program I'm trying to install.
[04:55] <dies_irae> needshelpwithubu: that looks like a bug. Perhaps you need to install then upgrade to latest packages versions.
[04:56] <NeuralJack> Thanks again to all the volunteers.  I really appreciate you all being here to help us out.  Good Night.
[04:56] <babonk> I've tried every method listed online to no avail.
[04:56] <dies_irae> needshelpwithubu: a laptop install?
[04:56] <needshelpwithubu> dies_irae: desktop
[04:56] <mintman> needshelpwithubu:  checked the make and model of network card for support???
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> babonk: omgubuntu mentions a way to install it
[04:56] <urlin2u> dies_irae, you need the net to upgrade
[04:56] <needshelpwithubu> I thought it was a bug with the linux kernel only having the reltek 8169 driver
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> babonk: I have a script to install oracle (java is now owned by oracle, not sun) java 1.7
[04:57] <dies_irae> needshelpwithubu: so what's unplugged?? I don't get it.
[04:57] <babonk> ActionParsnip: I think that would work.
[04:57] <needshelpwithubu> installed the 8168 and rmmoded & blacklisted the reltek 8169
[04:57] <dies_irae> oh wireless
[04:57] <needshelpwithubu> dies_irae: ubuntu and linux mint reports the cable unplugged, but it's not
[04:57] <babonk> ActionParsnip: Is this your blog/script?
[04:57] <needshelpwithubu> and it's not wireless either.
[04:57] <babonk> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/sun-still-shines-for-java-users-on-ubuntu/ ?
[04:58] <dies_irae> ethernet cable?
[04:58] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: what version of linux ubuntu are u running
[04:58] <needshelpwithubu> the drivers didn't help either
[04:58] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: 11.10
[04:58] <dies_irae> needshelpwithubu: just be specific with your problemo, ur making no sense whatsoever.
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> babonk: thats what I was referencing, worth a shot
[04:59] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: is this the latest version have u done a ubuntu search forums to see if they report problem/????
[04:59] <babonk> Okay, will try this
[04:59] <needshelpwithubu> Night guys, this is giving me a headache. I've been trying to fix this for hours. I'll try again tomorrow
[05:00] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: good luck ...
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> babonk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/811510/   will give 32bit Java and install the plugin to Chromium browser
[05:01] <ljsoftnet> how do i change openbox screen resolution, i tried the default Display Settings it doesn't change it
[05:01] <destryalhmns> so, is there a way to traverse "down" the dom until you find an element with a given class?
[05:02] <babonk> ActionParsnip: Running this script returns error that 'devscripts', 'unixodbc', and 'lib32asound2' have no installation candidates
[05:02] <babonk> I aw errors like that previously when trying to install Sun/Oracle Java
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> babonk: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[05:03] <babonk> "oneiric"
[05:03] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: read method 4 . but this would suggest enabling intergrated perpherals and sounds like a windows computer selling point making it impossible to load other OS due to a restart would reset the lan not to work...
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> babonk: all I can suggest is use my script. It assumes 32bit OS
[05:03] <Phr3d13> trying to install drivers downloaded from nvidia, but i keep getting told that i have x running, how do i stop x so that i can install the drivers?
[05:03] <babonk> ok will run it now
[05:04] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: already enabled on the bios. I think it's windows not shuting down the ethernet adapter properly, which explains why the light doesn't blink on bootup.
[05:04] <rainfyre> Hey all.  I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 to a partition on my hard drive, ubfortunately, GRUB was written to the flash drive, and the Ubuntu partition only shows up when I boot from the flash drive.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: use the xorg edgers UPDATE ppa (less fresh), you can get the 290 driver there
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> rainfyre: boot with the flash stick in then run:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda     assuming sda is youinternal drive
[05:05] <rainfyre> If the flash drive isn't there, I boot straight into Debian, Ubuntu isn't in the boot menu.  How do I fix GRUB so that it shows Ubuntu when I'm booting from my hard drive?
[05:05] <rainfyre> thank you Action
[05:05] <rainfyre> brb
[05:06] <ljsoftnet> how do i change openbox screen resolution, i tried the default Display Settings it doesn't change it
[05:07] <Albuca> Would someone be able to give me a quick hand? Im trying to keybind a .sh script, but for some reason it dosnt want to execute from the keybind. It does from terminal and alt-f2, but not they keybinding.
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> rainfyre: you can use a chroot from livUSB / CD and reinstate the bootloader that way. omgubuntu has a guide called 'sticking it to grub' you can follow
[05:07] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: did u follow method 2 for driver related issue with wake on line device???
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: what GPU?
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> Albuca: under which desktop / WM etc?
[05:08] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: i've already installed ubuntu over windows
[05:08] <needshelpwithubu> that'll require me to install windows again, pita
[05:09] <rainfyre> ActionParsnip: cool.  I don't know enough about chroots to try that yet
[05:09] <Albuca> ActionParsnip: Gnome
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> rainfyre: the guide tells you all you need...
[05:09] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: does the live cd work for ubuntu?  If so I would think it is a driver related issue...
[05:09] <rainfyre> ActionParsnip: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: cannot open `/dev/sda' while attempting to get disk size.
[05:10] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip AMD Ati
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Albuca: you can set shortcuts in CCSM, you'd set a command as your script. Then the shortcut to fire the command
[05:10] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: i've already replaced the reltek 8169 that comes with the kernel with 8168 so i don't think so
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: don't the ati drivers have a GUI app to set resolution..?
[05:10] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: the live cd works with no internet connection
[05:11] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: * the live cd works, but has no internet connection
[05:11] <html> hi
[05:11] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip its not opening
[05:12] <RicardoE> people I need help with a failure in dist-upgrade
[05:12] <RicardoE> can someone help me?
[05:12] <bsmith093> i have a bunch of numbered files 1.gif 2.gif ... 8.gif 19.gif 11.gif up to 1000.gif, im trying to a=make a cbz archive of them, and the archive is displaying 1.gif 10.gif 100.gif how do i fix this?
[05:12] <babonk> ActionParsnip: it doesn't seem to like this version of java
[05:13] <bsmith093> basically there going in aplhabetical order instead of numerical ordr
[05:13] <RicardoE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1912608
[05:13] <babonk> no clue, but the software i'm trying install gives java error messages when i try to build it now
[05:13] <mintman> needshelpwithubu: pin pointed out the Bios or Basic input out put is holding the nic in a wake on lan state and is looking for windows to wake the driver.... I hope the dont keep selling this motherboard I bet this board is not supported very well.. :( might want to fire over to archlinux and see what the community might be able to suggest to get ur device to turn...
[05:13] <Albuca> ActionParsnip: I dont have the CCSM, ive tried conf-editor but the command wont execute when I map it to anything
[05:13] <html> can i have a archlinux base with a ubuntu overlay?
[05:14] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip how do i run the amd software as root in the terminal, the gui doesn't open
[05:14] <needshelpwithubu> mintman: lol, the mobo is discontinued, it's a gigabyte ma790x-ud4p I purchased 4 years ago
[05:14] <mintman> html: what ??? hmmm what does this mean???
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: use gksudo
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: e.g.    gksudo command
[05:16] <html> archlinux  core instaled with ubuntu packages on top
[05:16] <html> mintman,
[05:17] <mintman> html: Ubuntu is a distro so is Archlinux different stratigies to setup of distro . they both use  same packages , but archlinux is not as user friendly as ubuntu .
[05:17] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip you know the command for the AMD Catalyst software?
[05:18] <mintman> html: the gears that make archlinux run are different the ubuntu.. Common sense its like asking is a porshe the same as a toyota .. both are cars...
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> ljsoftnet: no idea, I don't buy ATi GPUs, Nvidia al the way here
[05:18] <ljsoftnet> ActionParsnip ok thanks
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> mintman: the kernel is common though, which is why they are the same OS, just a different distro
[05:19] <html> mintman,  well.. im new to archlinux  but not to ubuntu ,,, so it total can NOT be done?
[05:20] <subb1> hi all. where can i possibly get some help on tcp/ip networking topic regarding NAT? got some doubts
[05:20] <html> ActionParsnip, can it be done?
[05:21] <subb1> I mean if there is any more appropriate channel?
[05:21] <mintman> html: what is the purpose of what exactly are u trying ? ur confusing me?
[05:22] <mintman> html: ur archlinux runs a 100mph an hour asking it to down grade to 85 mph..
[05:23] <Albuca> Would someone be able to give me a quick hand? Im trying to keybind a .sh script, but for some reason it dosnt want to execute from the keybind. It does from terminal and alt-f2, but not they keybinding.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a fix for a corrupt mouse pointer after booting, rebooting the pc temp get rid of the corrupt mouse pointer
[05:23] <mintman> html: is updating archlinux hard or what is the problem with running archlinux they have a page to explain exactly how to upgrade and request packages
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Albuca: I told you how, you need to use ccsm
[05:25] <mintman> html its called the rossette for package requests vs the ubuntu way its a chart
[05:25] <html> mintman,  fast like puppylinux .friendily gui like ubuntu ... like a custom distro
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Albuca: same process as this, just change the command executed: http://www.khattam.info/howto-enable-altf2-in-ubuntu-natty-11-04-narwhal-alpha-1-2010-12-04.html
[05:26] <html> huh ? what is mean?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Albuca: that is exactly what I said to do, but you asked again...
[05:26] <theadmin> html, mintman: Arch discussion is offtopic here... Also, there is no GUI in Arch by default :/
[05:27] <mintman> theadmin: sorry I will make this the last post about arch linux here got to much work to do to play with this idea
[05:27] <Besogon> people. Is it possible to get work Samba printer with HPLIP driver?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Besogon: yes, works here just dandy
[05:27] <mintman> html: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta follow the chart learn terminal
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> mintman: xpud is faster :)
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !info xpud
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> its another distro
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> oh :p
[05:28] <mintman> ActionParsnip: understand just dont want to bring up offtopic conversion
[05:29] <Albuca> ActionParsnip: thanks, sorry I missed that
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> mintman: you've failed at that so far...
[05:29] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Faster? Not really, I've configured Arch with minimal daemons, X, and Chromium in autostart and got it to work very fast
[05:29] <mark_morcom> Please help me here, if any of you are web developers. I need a program that supports Image Slices for web development. Not Guillotine like Gimp. It is the one think in my Linux arsenal that is keeping me dual-booting with windows
[05:29] <edbian> I have an entry in my /etc/fstab for my usb drive so I can mount it easily.  However when I boot my system complains at me 'filesystem /dev/sdb1 not found blah blah' how can I shut it up?
[05:29] <Besogon> ActionParsnip, For me not works. hp-plugin says that I need local installation of the printer. It doesn't catch samba printers. The printer is connected to Wondows computer
[05:30] <html> theadmin,  no what im trying to do... im looking for a ferverish fast distro as/like archlinux with ubuntu as the gui and apps
[05:30] <mintman> ActionParsnip: lol wasn't trying to go that root I came here to ask questions about ubuntu and gnome 3 not give out advise about archlinux
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> edbian: i have good results with pysdm to automount all drives at boot
[05:30] <edbian> lotuspsychje, really I'm just looking for the mount option to put in fstab
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> html: xpud boots in 3 seconds here on PATA HDD with 2Gb ram and 12Ghz dual core 32bit CPU..
[05:30] <theadmin> edbian: Change your options to "defaults,noauto". That way you can mount the device manually by "sudo mount /dev/sdb1", but it won't automount at boot. Easy enough I think. Also, this in rc.local will save you the trouble: [ -e /dev/sdb1 ] && sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[05:31] <theadmin> edbian: Err, without sudo in the last one
[05:31] <edbian> theadmin, thanks, noauto was the ticket! :)
[05:31] <html> ActionParsnip,  12ghz?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: lol how many seconds would a 6G ssd drive boot :p
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> html: 1.2
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: size is irrelevant, its a sata drive plus the access times are lower, so fast
[05:33] <theadmin> html: Try Archbang -- it's based on Arch, is bloody fast, but comes with a GUI and commonly used applications (web browser, media player, text editor etc etc)
[05:34] <html> !ubuntubot
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: check youtube etc, its fast
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> ill stick to ubuntu 64 on ssd with eyecandy stuff :p
[05:35] <rubebrflexx> hey everyone
[05:35] <edbian> where does xchat store it's icons
[05:35] <rubebrflexx> wow tuff crowd lol
[05:35] <theadmin> edbian: Most likely /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:36] <edbian> theadmin, yeah, not in there :(
[05:36] <theadmin> edbian: Oh, huh, weird
[05:36] <edbian> indeed
[05:36] <almoxarife> lets see, i dont really use ubuntu anything, i cant compete with the #linux helper kiddies, i know i am going to hang out on #ubuntu and recommend archlinux to the passing crowd, yeah, thats the ticket
[05:36] <edbian> How can I view what files a package installs using apt or aptitude?
[05:37] <theadmin> edbian: You can't use those for that, but "dpkg -L packagename"
[05:37] <edbian> theadmin, thanks
[05:38] <theadmin> almoxarife: That's a good idea, but you're gonna be too much offtopic
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer on an older laptop?
[05:39] <edbian> theadmin, found it: /usr/share/icons/xchat.xpm
[05:40] <theadmin> edbian: wtf is .xpm lol
[05:41] <edbian> theadmin, some image file type.  file command calls it this: X pixmap image text
[05:41] <theadmin> edbian: Huh... okay
[05:42] <edbian> theadmin, whatever it works and it's scalable so I like it.  Also, this is on a Debian system :P
[05:42] <theadmin> edbian: Oh.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> TheAncientGoat: its an miage format
[05:43]  * radio_hiss RMS talk in INDIA/Kochi on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM <-> http://www.rmsinkmea.in/
[05:44] <urlin2u> radio_hiss, that be spam laddy
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:49] <radio_hiss> urlin2u: really sorry if guys construe that as spam
[05:50]  * radio_hiss Richard Stallman talk in INDIA/Kochi on Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM <-> http://www.rmsinkmea.in/
[05:55] <virtuaposta> hi all
[05:56] <bsmith093> how do i rename numerically-named files so theyll display in the proper order, instead of 1 10 100 etc
[05:56] <virtuaposta> a quick question.. how to disable local user login and force user to use openldap authentication only
[05:57] <ojos3> http://www.vanguardiabs.com.ar/anonmexico/Hive.php
[05:59] <irelandm> A quick note:  I joined this channel using my android phone.  Pretty cool, probably eats the battery.  But great for emergencies when your pc is down.
[06:00] <hansg01> i played with my unity and crashed it
[06:00] <hansg01> the i installed ubuntu 12.04 alpha 2
[06:00] <hansg01> but nw i want some stable release for work
[06:00] <hansg01> can i downgrade back?
[06:01] <hansg01> without losing my configs done?
[06:01] <urlin2u> hansg01, nope
[06:01] <pangolin> !downgrade
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: you must reinstall
[06:01] <thiebaude> yep
[06:01] <thiebaude> :)
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: you canrestore configs from your backups
[06:02] <irelandm> Hansgo1 I don't know about downgrading, but one of the previous LTS versions might be your best choice for work.
[06:02] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: how?
[06:02] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: i mean how to create backups?
[06:02] <JDog2pt0> Anyone here have any experince with the vesafb driver?
[06:04] <Lirth> I'm trying to change the clock settings to show decimal time instead of standard (it's a little experiment) but I can't find anything online. Is there a way to adjust the length of hours, minutes, and seconds? I'd like to have 10 hours a day, 1000 minutes per day (100 per hour) and 100,000,000 seconds per day (100 per minute, 1,000,000 per hour). I'm pretty sure the parentheses numbers are right, but please correct me on that also.
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: copy them to a remote system or removable storage etc
[06:04] <JDog2pt0> vesafb, anyone think they can help me with it?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !info vesafb
[06:05] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: what i meant by the config is the tweaks and all, how to backup 'em?
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: why don't you have a backup already if your config is important?
[06:05] <pangolin> ojos3: Please do not post links to illegal activities
[06:05] <JDog2pt0> @ubottu I'm getting a fatal error asking for vesafb.ko
[06:06] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: i play with unity often and i don't wanna stop it and thats too the reason for this crash
[06:07] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: i didn't thought so but how to create backup's of the configs?
[06:07] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: data i can but what with configs?
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: they are stored in the hidden folders in your home folder
[06:08] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: oh okay hw i can forgot em
[06:09] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: anything else that i should i take care of?
[06:10] <maZed_> will I be able to install from, and to a USB drive? (using a netbook with a crashed harddrive)
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> hansg01: maybe some configs in /etc  depends what you've changed and your setup
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> maZed_: sure
[06:10] <maZed_> ok cool
[06:10] <hansg01> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[06:10] <hansg01> thanks!
[06:11] <Lirth> Does anyone have technical skills for changing/creating custom clocks?
[06:11] <jenia> hello everyone. i want to share files between two ubuntu computers
[06:11] <jenia> when i connect from machine A to machine B ( on which i already set a shared folder)
[06:12] <jenia> i get a dialogue box saying 1) Username 2) Domain and 3) Password
[06:12] <jenia> what is the Domain?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> jenia: leave that blank
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> jenia: if you are using the defalt sharing, you may need to run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     and you can log in as that user using the pass you set
[06:14] <jenia> so i do sudo smbpasswd -a jenia
[06:14] <jenia> ?
[06:15] <jenia> is that what youre saying? or literally?
[06:15] <jenia> and you mean on the server machine?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> jenia: literally, it will use your username
[06:15] <jenia> okay thanks ActionParsnip
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> jenia: yes on the server, you can then authenticate as that user, yuo can tell the OS to remember it too so you don't have to enter it again :)
[06:17] <Aerosonic> Guys, please think up the most expensive SSD you can
[06:17] <pangolin> try #hardware
[06:17] <Aerosonic> Something within the range of 6-8 grand
[06:17] <theadmin> Aerosonic: Try ##hardware , this is offtopic here
[06:17] <pangolin> this is a Ubuntu support channel
[06:17] <jenia> okay thanks ActionParsnip, thanks very much
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: there is a 1.5Tb PCI Express SSD storage
[06:18] <Aerosonic> Pancakez: Thanks, but you know, Ubuntu guys are quite smart ;)
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: I believe it's about 2,000 quid
[06:18] <jenia> work like a charme
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: OCZ Z-Drive R2 PCI-Express SSD 2 TB is about 3,000 quid
[06:20] <Aerosonic> ActionParsnip: Perfect!
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: get 2 of those and you got some mad speed
[06:22] <Aerosonic> ActionParsnip: I don't need it. The people I'm working with do.
[06:22] <Aerosonic> The more it costs, the better.
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: haha then get a handful of SAS drives and RAID them up like crazy
[06:24] <Aerosonic> ActionParsnip: Idiots I work for want better hardware
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: SAS drives are what are used in data centres...
[06:25] <Aerosonic> They said they'll pay anything so that their shitty programs perform better, and they already have i7's
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: how many?
[06:25] <ryannathans> on gnome3, rt2800usb, how can i permanently change my mac address, every time i try to change it with the new mac it wont connect to any networks
[06:26] <Aerosonic> ActionParsnip: I'd need to upgrade 19 computers
[06:26] <Aerosonic> And damn, they refuse to change their system
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: how many CPUs in each system?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: are there any mac restrictions on the interconnection device?
[06:26] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: mp
[06:26] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: mp
[06:26] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: no
[06:26] <aeon-ltd> Aerosonic: i7 is not enough? wuuuuut.....
[06:27] <theadmin> Aerosonic: lol better get rid of Windows
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> Aerosonic: what are you running?
[06:27] <Aerosonic> aeon-ltd: Sandy Bridge i7's. With mad DDR3 RAM. They have their shitty software they had some guy write for them, and it has huge leaks and redundancy errors
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> Aerosonic: then fix that
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: do you get an IP via DHCP?
[06:28] <Aerosonic> Sandy Bridge i7's, 16GB RAM, incredible shit.
[06:28] <ryannathans> i hate this new network manager thing in gnome 3, i have no control over anythin i used to
[06:28] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: no
[06:28] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: not even connected
[06:28] <Aerosonic> aeon-ltd: They didn't want it. That's the problem. They didn't want the program to be fixed, and they said "JUST GET US BETTER HARDWARE"
[06:28] <theadmin> ryannathans: Huh? NetworkManager hardly changed at all
[06:29] <theadmin> Aerosonic: *sigh* People are idiots... Seriously >.<
[06:29] <aeon-ltd> Aerosonic: do you care about them? if not their loss, go buy some faster i7's and OC the hell out of them
[06:29] <Aerosonic> aeon-ltd: I do not. That's what we did, they said "NOT FAST ENOUGH!" "YOU"RE DOING IT WRONG!"
[06:29] <Aerosonic> So we're gonna overcharge them for some 8k enterprise drives.
[06:30] <theadmin> :P Serves them right
[06:30] <Aerosonic> We're not getting revenue from this now, we're just laughing our asses off
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: are there any logs on the router?
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: why are you changing mac address?
[06:31] <excelsior> I'm having problems writing to memorex lightscribe cds, I burn to dvds just fine, is it possibly because the cds are too old?
[06:32] <ubluntu> Aerosonic: I wonder if you know how unprofessional you sound
[06:32] <Aerosonic> ubluntu: I am quite professional when talking to them. I really could give less crap about their money.
[06:32] <Aerosonic> couldn't*
[06:32] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: particular network has mac filtering for the mac of my other laptop
[06:33] <ubluntu> I wish I knew who you worked for, so I could show them how much you care about their business.
[06:33] <ubluntu>  /end rant
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> ryannathans: could try changing the mac based on the current one, change the right most hex value by one
[06:33] <Aerosonic> ubluntu: Really? Aw, that's cute.
[06:34] <ryannathans> ActionParsnip: kay
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: buy them a cray each :)
[06:34] <excelsior> command line tool to burn iso?
[06:35] <excelsior> on slowest speed possible?
[06:35] <ryannathans> activation of network connection failed
[06:35] <theadmin> excelsior: cdrecord
[06:36] <ryannathans> i can't be bothered anymore, reinstalling
[06:36] <ryannathans> bbl
[06:36] <excelsior> thanks theadmin
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> !burning
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: buy them a Cray XK6 each
[06:39] <ubluntu> why don't you drop the offtopic convo
[06:39] <ubluntu> nobody cares about his arrogance
[06:40] <Aerosonic> ubluntu: Hey, they are running software that is abundant with errors, has tons of redundancy loops, has countless memory leaks.
[06:40] <Aerosonic> ubluntu: I told them that I can fix it, they refused.
[06:40] <Aerosonic> ubluntu: They said that they just want better hardware.
[06:41] <ubluntu> point is
[06:41] <ubluntu> NOT ON TOPIC IN THIS CHANNEL
[06:41] <ubluntu> so gtfo
[06:41] <Aerosonic> ubluntu: I told them that no hardware in the world will be able to deal with instantly-filling RAM. They said 'meh' and I said "Well, let's rip them off, then"
[06:41] <ubluntu> ignored
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: check PM
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> ubluntu: you don't have to announce your ignores...
[06:42] <ubluntu> ok. ignored too
[06:42] <theadmin> :/
[06:42] <urlin2u> 321 banned
[06:42] <ubluntu> you should know better too since you are always in here
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> probably not the smartest idea considering how muchI help here
[06:43] <ubluntu> yea. I won't ignore you. but you really shouldn't try to help such an arrogant person who tells us he is going to 'rip people off'
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> ubluntu: then why lie?
[06:43] <Aerosonic> He didn't ignore me.
[06:43] <ubluntu> I actually didn't get to ignoring you yet
[06:44] <ubluntu> since you really aren't that important
[06:44] <ubluntu> can we get back on topic tho
[06:44] <Aerosonic> "arrogant". Coming from you that's something.
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> ubluntu: so you only ignore important people? Strange policy....
[06:46] <ubluntu> ActionParsnip: you are pretty important tho right ?
[06:46] <road_agent> coming back to linux after a long hiatus, can anyone tell me what happened to beagle, tracker etc
[06:46] <theadmin> road_agent: Beagle still exists iirc, dunno what tracker even is
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> ubluntu: in general, nobody really is
[06:46] <ubluntu> not true.
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> !info beagle
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[06:47] <theadmin> Huh. Guess I'm wrong
[06:47] <ubluntu> everyone is important.
[06:47] <road_agent> hmmm metainfo desktop search kind of died
[06:47] <road_agent> it seems
[06:48] <theadmin> Oh, it died 2 years ago
[06:48] <road_agent> haha
[06:48] <theadmin> road_agent: http://alternativeto.net/software/beagle/?platform=linux
[06:48] <theadmin> road_agent: Might find something acceptable there
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> ubluntu: when you die, we are all equal, when we ae born we are all equal..
[06:49] <ubluntu> we are all always equal in the eyes of the lord. CAN WE GET BACK ON TOPIC YET LMAO!
[06:50] <thomedy> question.. ihave my wireless set up... i ran update and upgrade
[06:50] <thomedy> but i cant connect to a particular network
[06:50] <thomedy> my homenetwork
[06:50] <thomedy> i can however connect to my libraries or various other networks
[06:50] <thomedy> my rfkill list shows no blocks
[06:50] <thomedy> and im 99 percent sure my password is correct because i can connect to the network on my phone
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> ubluntu: you started asking about importance...
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: can you ping your router's IP?
[06:52] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: That wouldn't really be possible without establishing the connection to the network it's on first, right?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: i've heard people say 'network' when they mean 'file share'
[06:53] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: lol oh
[06:53] <thomedy> ooh let me try
[06:53] <semitones> i have a computer with ubuntu and windows dual booting. I want to copy this failing HDD onto a new one, and switch them. Is that possible?
[06:53] <theadmin> semitones: ddrescue
[06:54] <semitones> it hasn't failed yet
[06:54] <semitones> it's just making sounds that sound like it will fail soon
[06:55] <ubluntu> check out dmesg
[06:55] <theadmin> semitones: Still ddrescue.
[06:55] <theadmin> semitones: lol
[06:55] <semitones> ok
[06:55] <ubluntu> if you can hear it. thats not good
[06:55] <ubluntu> alot of clicking ?
[06:55] <semitones> does it come on the ubuntu live cd?
[06:55] <semitones> ubluntu: more like whining
[06:56] <semitones> when the computer turns on, it makes a horrible whirring noise when the drives spin up
[06:56] <semitones> I hard power down and hope it won't do it again when I turn it on again
[06:56] <thomedy> quick question.. i just moved to a new state with my wife and we are staying at families till we get our place... that being said the internet here i soff the landlord... and i dont have a physical machine to check ip... i ran iwlist wlan0 scan
[06:56] <oconnore> semitones: you had better act quickly slash I hope you have backups
[06:56] <thomedy> but i cant figure out ip
[06:57] <semitones> oconnore: the new hdd just came in the mail a few days ago
[06:57] <semitones> i'm reading up on ddrescue now to figure out how to clone the hdd to the new one
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> thomedy: maybe etherape could help find the ip
[06:57] <datruth_> How can I map the windows key + the d key to minimize all winxows?
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> semitones: could just use your backups. I assume you have some as the data seems important..
[06:58] <thomedy> you know what i can find the ip on the other machine im actually connected one sec
[06:58] <semitones> ActionParsnip: the documents folders are all backed up to dropbox and ubuntu one -- i'd mostly be losing programs and media
[06:59] <semitones> does the ubuntu live cd come with ddrescue?
[06:59] <KeithWeisshar> what's the difference between wubi rev 245 from the website and rev 241 on the desktop cd
[06:59] <Grivvel> Does anyone know anything about xdotool? I'm attempting to use it, but there's a specific program (running under Wine in case that's relevant) that it doesn't seem to be able to interact with. Am I incorrect in thinking that all displayed windows are X windows?
[06:59] <thomedy> oaky i googled it got my public ip and then pinged it and said network is unreachable
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info ddrescue
[07:00] <KeithWeisshar> the ubuntu cd contains wubi r241 but the download version is r245
[07:00] <KeithWeisshar> what changes were made between rev 245 and rev 241
[07:00] <urlin2u> KeithWeisshar, I doubt anyone will know here.
[07:01] <shade34321> I'm curious what make 2>&1 | tee make.log does, I like to know what a command does before I run it. While I understand part of it, enough to catch the gist of what it should do, I want to make sure I thoroughly understand it
[07:01] <semitones> lotuspsychje: i guess that's a no then
[07:01] <jdog2pt0> Anyone here familier with vesafb
[07:01] <KeithWeisshar> is it ok to use the wubi version on the cd or should i use the download version
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> semitones: sudo apt-get install ddrescue
[07:01] <semitones> ok i can do that from the live cd
[07:02] <gharz> guys, i've installed ipython from source (not from repo)... is there anyone who can help me uninstall it completely uninstall or deleting all ipython files? please help. thanks!
[07:02] <urlin2u> KeithWeisshar, use the cd, your aware its not for long term use and just a file in windows?
[07:02] <oconnore> shade34321: 2>&1 merges stderr and stdout into one stream. tee writes to the file
[07:02] <KeithWeisshar> what can go wrong with the wubi installation
[07:02] <datruth_> anyone?
[07:03] <jdog2pt0> vesafb, anyone?
[07:03] <shade34321> oconnore, thanks! That's what i thought since that's what it was doing but like I said I'd like to verify!
[07:03] <urlin2u> KeithWeisshar, here is what the designer of wubi says. http://howsoftwareisbuilt.com/2009/03/12/interview-with-agostino-russo-wubi-ubuntu/
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> KeithWeisshar: if the boot loader goes screwy its a bit more effort to fix
[07:05] <rypervenche> semitones: You probably want gddrescue
[07:05] <moonunitzappa>  currently only availably as 32 bit application. Please use a 32 bit compatibility library for your system.
[07:05] <moonunitzappa> does that mean i need to have a 32bit os?
[07:05] <Grivvel> Does anyone know where I can get information on xdotool? It can't seem to find particular windows running under Wine, and I'm not sure why.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> !info gddrescue
[07:05] <njathan> how can i install Ubuntu into a thumb drive? Normal install process (from CD) does not give me the /dev/sdb option :(
[07:06] <rypervenche> semitones: The package name is gddrescue, but the command you use to run it is ddrescue. The other package, ddrescue, uses the command dd_rescue and is not the same thing.
[07:06] <semitones> rypervenche: thanks. is the g for GNU or gui?
[07:06] <thomedy> okay now im confused again... i ran ping and got network unreachable so i wilist scanned again and now wlan0 is saying that no scan results
[07:06] <coolstar-pc> njathan: Ubuntu with persistence, or full install?
[07:06] <rypervenche> semitones: GNU
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> !persistent | njathan
[07:06] <thomedy> i love linux its free and i like what open source is abbout but i wish this was easier
[07:06] <semitones> rypervenche: thanks
[07:07] <urlin2u> njathan, how big is the thumb?
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> thomedy: install etherape
[07:07] <thomedy> i can do that but unfortunately i dont have that connection right now... so i wil have to wait till tommorrow or so and i can get a hard line in
[07:08] <thomedy> what is etherap
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> !info etherape
[07:08] <thomedy> i have wicd-curses\
[07:08] <thomedy> is that similar
[07:08] <njathan> coolstar-pc: i have tried the ubuntu with persistence option using the utility in the live CD, but the booting is very erratic... boots the first time.. then never does. So i am looking to do a full install on the thumb drive
[07:08] <jdog2pt0> Can anyone help me out with a vesafb error?
[07:08] <njathan> urlin2u: 2 Gb
[07:09] <rob_p> thomedy: Until you an establish the wireless connection, you're wasting your time trying to ping...It's like disconnecting your ethernet cable and trying to ping another host...The physical connection is not in place, or in this case the wireless, which acts as the physical connection, is not established.
[07:09] <thomedy> oh dug
[07:09] <thomedy> duh
[07:09] <urlin2u> njathan, not big enough for a full install.
[07:09] <thomedy> ha ha ha
[07:09] <thomedy> right
[07:09] <thomedy> okay rob_p im listening... please direct me
[07:09] <njathan> urlin2u: well i can arrange for a 8 gig one too..
[07:09]  * coolstar-pc tried installing ubuntu on his external drive once, but it didn't quite work
[07:09] <thomedy> cuz again i can connect anywhere else and my phone can connect herre
[07:10] <njathan> just need to know if its possible at all
[07:10] <thomedy> so im not all that good yet but im getting better and you could be apart of that process do i really have to sell this... okay please help
[07:10] <oconnore> datruth_: yeah. sudo apt-get install xdotool, then go to system settings > keyboard shortcuts and add one in "custom" that does xdotool key ctrl+alt+d
[07:10] <urlin2u> njathan, that ill work you just have to use the cutom install and make sure grub is put on the thumb.
[07:10] <urlin2u> will*
[07:10] <rob_p> thomedy: However, if you're just trying to sniff packets, there are some wireless tools that can do it without having established a connection. What are you trying to accomplish?
[07:10] <urlin2u> custom*
[07:10] <datruth_> oconnore: hrmm let me try
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> !info xdotool
[07:11] <njathan> urlin2u: how to use the custom install?
[07:11] <oconnore> datruth_: from http://askubuntu.com/questions/97219/how-to-show-desktop-from-command-line-in-unity-in-oneiric
[07:11] <thomedy> well when im out i can cconnect to random networks but id rather be able to work from home and have the convenienc e of not havoing to go to a coffee shop every day
[07:11] <moonunitzappa> how can i install 32bit lib on ubuntu 64?
[07:11] <thomedy> i cant connect at  home
[07:11] <thomedy> or at my inlaws
[07:11] <thomedy> but i can connect elsewhere
[07:12] <urlin2u> njathan, at the choice of where to install use the something other and change the thumb to a ext4 mount with / and make sure the grub dropdown is pointed at the thumb
[07:13] <rob_p> thomedy: Can you see the wireless network when you scan for it?
[07:13] <thomedy> yep
[07:14] <moonunitzappa> Whats the 32bit lib for intell command?
[07:14] <thomedy> curious though when i ping i get network unreachable and the scan says no scan results.. then i have to ifconfig up the wlan0
[07:14] <thomedy> to get it back
[07:14] <njathan> urlin2u: I did that.. thats where it did not give me the /dev/sdb option... is there an argument i should be passing while booting?
[07:14] <thomedy> why is that
[07:14] <rob_p> thomedy: So then you need to figure out what's different about your inlaw's wireless network... Perhaps they are mac filtering...
[07:14] <njathan> or perhaps boot into live and then try install (with out the usb recorder utility)?
[07:15] <thomedy> i have been able to connect here before then poof nothing
[07:15] <thomedy> so i upgraded to 11.04 or whatever im on prob .1 actually
[07:15] <thomedy> and got wired connection to update/upgrade
[07:15] <urlin2u> njathan, if we are talking about the same gui a 2 gig thumb may not show not sure really
[07:15] <thomedy> now i have a connection anywhere but here
[07:15] <thomedy> but i had one here before
[07:16] <njathan> urlin2u: ok.. i'll try with the 8 gb one and come back
[07:16] <datruth_> oconnore: thanks even with that installed still doesn't seem to work
[07:16]  * datruth_ might have to install the ubuntudesktop again
[07:16] <urlin2u> njathan, if you were trying to install to a thumb while using that wont work as well.
[07:16] <rob_p> thomedy: I'd try to eliminate some of the easy possibilities like asking them if they are filtering mac addresses. It could be something as simple as that!
[07:17] <thomedy> they wouldn't  know i could tell you that right now... im the techiest guy in the family cuz i have kids and am a comp sci major in college but i havent done admin in my linux/unix classes yet
[07:19] <rob_p> thomedy: ...and I'm assuming that other wireless devices are able to connect?  The reason I ask is that some wireless routers have glitches and need to be rebooted on a regular basis
[07:19] <thomedy> yeah other machines connect
[07:20] <thomedy> my brothers laptop, my phone, my wifes phone
[07:20] <rob_p> thomedy: I'm assuming it's WPA secured...
[07:21] <thomedy> okay thats progress... but i have the password
[07:21] <moonunitzappa> anyone here ever get XAMPP to work on 64bit ubuntu?
[07:21] <rob_p> thomedy: ...and you have your WPA supplicant (or whatever is being used these days in Linux) configured?
[07:21] <thomedy> okay im goign to google wpa cuz in hearnest i dont actually know the real defination only th what it describes
[07:21] <thomedy> probably not honestly
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> !xampp
[07:21] <thomedy> i hav eno idea how to do that at all
[07:22] <rob_p> thomedy: That would be why then.  The wireless access point won't let you connect without having the key configured properly.
[07:22] <thomedy> yay
[07:23] <thomedy> okay if you dont mind it would be easier on me if you showed me how to fix taht but if not i can easily and have already started to google it
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer at boot on an older laptop?
[07:23] <GhostWolf> hi i have 2 questions. first question in 11.10 how can i change themes? second question, don't know if anyone here plays any zynga games like farmville or mafia wars or what not, but i was able to in 11.04 install zynga's toolbar for the browser, been using it for few years at least now, but when i go to install it in 11.10 it doesn't show the info its supposed to, its just blank
[07:24] <rob_p> thomedy: Honestly, I haven't played with wireless under Linux since 2007.  I'm not sure what has changed since then.  But a google search should help...
[07:25] <rob_p> thomedy: Are you trying to do this all from the CL?
[07:25] <thomedy> yeah im on ubuntu forum righ tnow
[07:25] <thomedy> yeah
[07:25] <thomedy> i like cl
[07:25] <rob_p> thomedy: bravo!  :)
[07:25] <thomedy> i dont know if i said this but im a comp sci major
[07:25] <rob_p> thomedy: Me too!
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> GhostWolf: there are few default themes in unity, if you want more google for unity themes
[07:25] <thomedy> where at
[07:25] <datruth_> oconnore: figured it out, dont need that program its hidden away in the settings
[07:25] <thomedy> how far along
[07:26] <thomedy> what languages does your college show
[07:26] <rob_p> thomedy: Weber State...long time ago, hehe!
[07:26] <thomedy> oh...me now
[07:26] <thomedy> actually i had to take time off of school for a semester
[07:26] <GhostWolf> lotuspsychje, i have some already i know there are default i want to change the theme cause its a bit too bright i just don't know how to change it in 11.10 since 11.04 has unity as well and was able to change themes easily
[07:26] <thomedy> cuz my wife and i have kids and we ran out of money so i have a business building websites which is another reason i need the internet
[07:27] <thomedy> and a  job
[07:27] <rob_p> thomedy: How's business in that line of work?
[07:27] <thomedy> prob 2 by the end of this week
[07:27] <thomedy> actually really really really good
[07:27] <thomedy> but i just started
[07:27] <thomedy> it
[07:27] <stevecam> what is a good replacement for pulseaudio, i want something that allows me to control volume for digital out and allows me to have more control over the surround sound
[07:27] <thomedy> if you dont mind me saying i got much better then i thought i would much faster than i expected
[07:28] <rob_p> thomedy: I manage a bunch of servers at a co-lo facility and I play with domain hosting, web hosting, etc. but I don't make a living at it! :)
[07:28] <thomedy> and im meeting a lawyer next week to talk about what it would take to start hiring developers
[07:28] <thomedy> well my comp is a bit inconsistent
[07:28] <thomedy> but in the last 6 or so months i have seen nothing but inexplicable success in fact nov last year i almost landed a gov site
[07:28] <otk> !help
[07:28] <thomedy> that would have been 10000 dollors for one weeks work
[07:29] <thomedy> thats crazy
[07:29] <thomedy> CRAZY
[07:29] <otk> ubottu: help
[07:29] <thomedy> i didn't get it but i mean really fast success fo rreasons i dont quite understand myself
[07:29] <thomedy> and i get to do art again
[07:29] <otk> !bot
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> otk: whats your question?
[07:30] <otk> lotuspsychje: none, just wanted to see some irc bots
[07:30] <thomedy> after i launch this second business im doing right now imextending my first business to innovative 3d front end themes with webgl and what not
[07:30] <thomedy> apparently theres lotto money in it
[07:30] <thomedy> and i get to do art
[07:30] <rob_p> thomedy: I've actually never done IT type work professionally aside from some small contract work.  I work as a Field Engineer but I have to interact with lots of Linux and embedded Unix systems.
[07:30] <thomedy> what do you do
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> otk: join #freenode to ask botlist
[07:30] <thomedy> when you say fiield engineer
[07:30] <otk> lotuspsychje: ok
[07:30] <MonkeyDust> !bots| otk
[07:31] <rob_p> thomedy: Have you heard of Predator?  Well, I'm involved with that.
[07:31] <otk> !bots| ubottu
[07:31] <thomedy> the movie.. awesome... which one are you...
[07:31] <thomedy> jk
[07:31] <rob_p> thomedy: Yeah, hehe! :P
[07:31] <otk> !bots| otk
[07:31] <thomedy> i cant remember the actors in that i was trying to think of the black guy
[07:31] <thomedy> but what ever
[07:31] <thomedy> what is predator
[07:32] <thomedy> it sounds menacing
[07:32] <FloodBot1> thomedy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:32] <thomedy> sorry i type fast ill try to be more considerate
[07:32] <rob_p> thomedy: Predator UAVs... They are un-manned aircraft used by the military.
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic
[07:32] <thomedy> my father in law is 25 years retired airforce what base are you
[07:33] <thomedy> i think they are getting mad at us... or me ill take the blame thank you for your help you can still answer cuz im super curious but ill stop after that
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer at boot on an older laptop?
[07:33] <rob_p> thomedy: Our conversation is making others uncomfortable so perhaps we ought to put it aside for now.  But to answer your question, I work all over the world.
[07:34] <datruth_> great now my sound doesn't work
[07:34]  * datruth_ is getting tired of this
[07:34] <thomedy> thats funny i just said taht thank you again and i agree..
[07:34] <moonunitzappa> How do i run in root NOT in terminal?  Im trying to extract a tar.gz to OPT but says i cant
[07:34] <thomedy> gnight all back to work for me i would like this next business launched by feb so i have to build it... wpa_supplicant your amazing
[07:34] <moonunitzappa> You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///opt
[07:34] <rob_p> thomedy: Anyway, good luck and I hope you get your wireless connection squared away.
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> moonunitzappa: run sudo
[07:35] <moonunitzappa> how?
[07:35] <moonunitzappa> I dont want to use term
[07:35] <moonunitzappa> i know how to  with the term
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> moonunitzappa: not sure u can extract files without the right permissions....
[07:37] <rob_p> moonunitzappa: sudo tar -zxvf <archive.tgz>
[07:37] <rob_p> moonunitzappa: ...assuming you are in the directory that holds the .tgz file...
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> moonunitzappa: are you logged in as owner of the /home dir?
[07:39] <rob_p> moonunitzappa: If you're asking about launching a gui app as root, look at gksudo or gksu...don't remember off the top of my head...
[07:39] <thomedy> im back on official ubuntu matters here to respect the purpose of this rom
[07:39] <thomedy> room
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> !info gksudo
[07:39] <moonunitzappa> yes i am logged in as root
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> !info gksu
[07:40] <thomedy> i am on ubuntu forum and found a fix for the wpa supplicant and am following it... however after i do the wpa_supplicant [network] [password] it tells me to edit
[07:41] <moonunitzappa> ty
[07:41] <thomedy> it tells me to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf but that doesn't exist so i ran locate wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:41] <thomedy> and found one in etc/dbus-1/system.d/
[07:41] <fanti>  hi! i'm looking for a repository which still has the sun's java packages?
[07:41] <thomedy> i dont want to edit it and screw myself is this the correct conf
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !java
[07:42] <rob_p> thomedy: You could grab an example off the 'Net and tweak it for your needs:  http://linux.die.net/man/5/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:42] <thomedy> okay let me try that... i might be back ... ? maybe
[07:43] <rob_p> thomedy: Just make a backup of any file you mess with and you'll be relatively safe...
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> thomedy: you have linksys network wifi card?
[07:43] <rob_p> thomedy: One of the first habits I got into was doing, "cp file.conf file.conf_orig" before touching it! :)
[07:45] <i42n> rob_p: git might also be a good idea
[07:46] <rob_p> i42n: Yeah, there are plenty of places...
[07:46] <rob_p> thomedy: According to one Ubuntu page on the subject, it looks like the file lives here: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:49] <X3l3r0n> hi all
[07:50] <rob_p> hi X3l3r0n
[07:54] <thomedy> you know what thats what my tut said but i didn't think it was right because i dont have a file there
[07:54] <thomedy> so i can make one and then add that
[07:54] <thomedy> does that sound like good advice
[07:55] <Zimm3r> Quick question, is it safe to delete usr/lib/python3 in ubuntu 11.04?
[07:57] <i42n> Zimm3r: rename it and try?
[07:57] <Zimm3r> i42n: I am not sure if an app depends on python3 or if it will revert to using python2.7 (which is what I use)
[08:01] <rob_p> thomedy: Sorry for the delay...I'm actually at work so when duty calls, I have to attend to it!
[08:01] <rob_p> thomedy: Anyway, if the file isn't there, then I'd first make sure you have the wpa supplicant package installed.
[08:02] <rob_p> thomedy: If it's installed and the file still isn't there, then the package maintainer may have just been lazy and didn't put it in that location.  But usually you can find an example in the docs.
[08:04] <rob_p> thomedy: ...and I don't mean the, "lazy" comment in a derrogatory way when referring to the maintainer...perhaps there's a reason they did what they did, if they did!
[08:06] <damo22> anyone got a midi keyboard hooked up to their computer?
[08:22] <dice> can't update to 11.10- -
[08:22] <bullgard6> What precisely does output  '~$ ip route show'?  'man ip' does not seem to explain this.
[08:25] <_rahmat_> hi
[08:28] <thomedy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[08:28] <thomedy> okay i went to that to set up my wpa supplicant
[08:28] <thomedy> but the last step doesn't work
[08:28] <thomedy> it all seems good can someone let me know whats wrong
[08:28] <bullgard6> !enter | thomedy
[08:31] <thomedy> sorry force of habit i will def try
[08:33] <bullgard6> dice: Do you mean dist-upgrade?
[08:33] <dice> it says downloading files   then nothing happens
[08:34] <bullgard6> dice: Please report the complete command and answer.
[08:39] <bullgard6> What precisely does  '~$ ip route show' output?  'man ip' does not seem to explain this.
[08:44] <wwwd> Hey All! I am trying to get my mind around building and installing software from source. If i do make and then make checkinstall is it allways the case that the package will then be easilly removed/uninstalled?
[08:44] <nanoguy> Question: Help me how to get system tray restored no ubuntu 10.10 maevrick. Because i lost it last week
[08:45] <damo22> wwwd i wouldnt build from source unless the prepackaged bundles dont have all the right flags for your needs
[08:45] <_rahmat_> nanoguy could you right click on the panel?
[08:46] <damo22> thats what packagers spend all their time doing, building the debs
[08:47] <magnus_> wwwd, it depends on the makefile, but if the developers wrote it in a standard way, then yes. you can also pass a PREFIX to configure to have "make install" put it in a custom location where it's more easily removed, if you want to be able to uninstall easily
[08:47] <ljsoftnet> what does openbox controls made of, qt or gtk?
[08:47] <wwwd> Understood. Two points. First I want to use Erlang R15B. And I am interested in learning to do admin and this seems like important stuff.
[08:48] <theadmin> ljsoftnet: gtk
[08:48] <wwwd> magnus: I thought it was best to use make checkinstall instead of make install now.
[08:49] <ljsoftnet> theadmin how do i make a system wide change of gtk theme in openbox?
[08:49] <theadmin> ljsoftnet: There are apps for that, try lxappearance
[08:49] <theadmin> Not so sure I spelt that right
[08:49] <ljsoftnet> theadmin i did but its not system wide
[08:50] <theadmin> ljsoftnet: What do you mean, "system wide"? For all users?
[08:50] <theadmin> ljsoftnet: No real idea how to do that, but I guess copy the files over
[08:50] <magnus_> wwwd, i think the general way is to just run checkinstall manually, i.e. not use a makefile target
[08:51] <magnus_> so, ./configure, make and finally "checkinstall"
[08:51] <ljsoftnet> theadmin i mean, i want all the apps to have one theme
[08:51] <theadmin> ljsoftnet: Supposed to do it... Not sure why it doesn't work for you. Huh.
[08:51] <ljsoftnet> theadmin ah
[08:52] <theadmin> ljsoftnet: There is some tool for Openbox specifically which handles appearance, let me look the name up
[08:52] <ljsoftnet> theadmin ok
[08:54] <theadmin> ljsoftnet: Oh, no, sorry, that *was* lxappearance lol. Just thought it's something specific to Openbox, it looks so native >.<
[08:55] <magnus_> wwwd, really, the best way to admin apps on a system is to use the debian package system, which is also used by ubuntu. see man apt-get
[08:57] <nanoguy> i have panel but system tray only lost containing network applet manager and hp toolbox
[08:59] <nanoguy> yes i could right click at panel
[08:59] <wwwd> magnus: Sorry about that my connection is acting up. I am aware of
[08:59] <wwwd>        apt-get but it does not get the most current software, and in some
[08:59] <wwwd>        cases for instance erlang I would like some of the features in the new
[08:59] <wwwd>        release.magnus: Sorry about that my connection is acting up. I am aware of
[08:59] <wwwd>        apt-get but it does not get the most current software, and in some
[08:59] <wwwd>        cases for instance erlang I would like some of the features in the new
[08:59] <FloodBot1> wwwd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <wwwd> sorry! Thought I had been dropped. As I said my  connection is acting strange. Was trying to repost1
[09:02] <nwx> hello
[09:11] <paulus68> after upgrading from karmic to oneiric on my server I get this error message error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found
[09:11] <butti> godd morning
[09:12] <butti> i also have boot problems, guyes...the boot progress hangs , also keyboard is dead in the boot manager
[09:12] <butti> i have fresh installation of 11.10
[09:13] <theadmin> paulus68: From Karmic to Oneiric? How does that work?
[09:15] <paulus68> theadmin: I just entered sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and went on from there
[09:15] <theadmin> paulus68: That won't upgrade you to Oneiric...
[09:16] <auronandace> !karmic
[09:16] <thomedy> okay im setting up the wpa_supplicant in my linux, machine... im having  a hard time... i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136
[09:16] <auronandace> !11.10
[09:16] <cheayuncho> !kaemic
[09:16] <cheayuncho> !karmic
[09:16] <cheayuncho> !karmic
[09:17] <paulus68> theadmin: I upgraded to something new however I get the above mentioned error and don't know how to get arround this
[09:17] <wwwd> magnus: So anyway, as I was saying I am trying to use the most current version of erlang which is not in the repositories. Hence the need to build. So my understanding is the steps are tar -xzvf package.tar.gz; cd package; ./config; make; checkinstall. I think this results in a some/dir/package where all the information about the software is the software is also added to the package manager. Is that your understanding?
[09:19] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=17624a1ae0146cc071093da2ba087254&t=1397629&page=2 paulus68 check here
[09:22] <ljsoftnet> how do i make a system wide change of a theme in openbox?
[09:22] <ljsoftnet> plan to use a theme for all apps
[09:24] <cheayuncho> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[09:26] <bazhang> cheayuncho, stop that
[09:30] <totesmuhgoats> is /var/log/syslog the same thing as /var/log/messages in other distros?
[09:30] <theadmin> totesmuhgoats: Generally, yes
[09:31] <totesmuhgoats> theadmin: thanks, good to know
[09:32] <paulus68> bazhang: question I am able to launch this pc with a live cd and running gparted, I can see the hardrive that is causing problems and it's giving me the error that LVM is not supported any thoughts
[09:33] <bazhang> paulus68, so your issue is somewhat similar to the forums post, in that you have multiple installs, or on different drives?
[09:37] <cipher__> Hi I am installing Ubuntu 11, and during the partitioning of the hdd, sda1 (my main partition) is being eaten by Window 7 (loader). Can I remedy this?
[09:37] <paulus68> bazhang: as far as I know I have 1 install but not able to tell if it's on multiple drives
[09:37] <cipher__> I defragged, and deleted temp files.
[09:38] <cipher__> %temp%
[09:50] <hot2trot> how can I tell the UUID of a new external hard drive I just formatted and mounted.  I did 'blkid' but I can't really tell which drive is which.  In fact it seems to me the drive isn't listed at all
[09:51] <hot2trot> in fact, it does not show up in blkid, I am certain
[09:53] <zlszk> hot2trot: ls -l  /dev/disk/by-label ?
[09:55] <hot2trot> zlszk: yes, thank you!
[09:55] <zlszk> hot2trot: you are welcome
[10:00] <Dixie_> -_- can someone please expain what "sudo -i" does.
[10:02] <zlszk> Dixie_: does it change the usr to "root" ?
[10:02] <ubuntu_> hi does any body no how to use std volume button on a laptop using a sound blasyter usb soundcard
[10:03] <pnorman> Dixie_: It simulates logging in as root, changing the env. variables
[10:04] <Dixie_> simulates logging in as root? is that why i cant view any other directories other than whats on my desktop
[10:04] <pnorman> sudo -i is run within a terminal
[10:05] <Dixie_> but if it simulates root, whats the difference between sudo -i and sudo su
[10:06] <Dixie_> when i sudo -i the only listed directory after enterting an ls command, is Desktop
[10:06] <pnorman> Environment variables are set correctly with sudo -i, with sudo su you can do stuff like make your user's .nano_history only readable by root
[10:06] <pnorman> Dixie_:
[10:06] <pnorman> Dixie_: Check where you are with pwd
[10:10] <glebihan> Dixie_, that's because when you use "sudo -i" it creates a new login shell, which means it goes to the root user's home folder, ie /root
[10:11] <Dixie_> ohhh ok, so essentially, if i were to sudo su, i'd would essentially be root, in my users directory. and i'd have to cd, to find myself in /root
[10:11] <glebihan> Dixie_, if you want to get a permanent login as root and stay in the current folder, use "sudo -s"
[10:11] <Dixie_> and if i just sudo -i, i'm automatically in /root
[10:12] <glebihan> Dixie_, just don't use "sudo su"
[10:12] <Dixie_> oh ok
[10:12] <glebihan> Dixie_, "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" are the good ways to log in as root
[10:13] <Dixie_> gotcha, thanks guys, for being helpful lulz
[10:13] <Dixie_> i was expecting some "gtfo noob" response
[10:13] <pnorman> I don't think sudo -s correctly sets the environment variables
[10:13] <glebihan> pnorman, yes it does
[10:14] <pnorman> What's the difference between it and sudo -i?
[10:14] <glebihan> pnorman, "sudo -i" creates a login shell, "sudo -s" doesn't
[10:15] <Dixie_> oh, all i see is that sudo -i, puts me at root, in /root. and sudo -s puts me at root, when whichever directory i was in after issuing the command
[10:15] <Dixie_> lol, idk what this environment variable talk is
[10:15] <Dixie_> -_-
[10:15] <drzero> pnorman, it does indeed
[10:15] <dns_> your extra variables are set such as $PWD that contains your current directory
[10:15] <dns_>  -i starts again
[10:16] <drzero> arebrik@locnar:~$ set > test
[10:16] <drzero> arebrik@locnar:~$ sudo -s
[10:16] <drzero> root@locnar:~# set > test
[10:16] <drzero> root@locnar:~# diff test ~arebrik/test
[10:16] <drzero> root@locnar:~#
[10:16] <FloodBot1> drzero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:16] <drzero> oh 'cmon 5 lines isn't a flood :)
[10:17] <wilbur> hey whats the thing like lcpsi
[10:17] <wilbur> to figure out my wifi driver
[10:17] <bazhang> lspci wilbur
[10:17] <bazhang> wilbur, for the driver? or the nic
[10:18] <wilbur> idk trying to get wireless wokring on lubuntu
[10:18] <bazhang> wilbur, whats the nic chipset
[10:18] <drzero> BTW hi everyone - long time no see
[10:18] <wilbur> ha no clue whats that mean
[10:18] <bazhang> wilbur, the internet wifi chipset.
[10:19] <ubuntu_> any idea how to get volume buttons to work in xfce using alsa and a sound blaster usb card ?
[10:19] <wilbur> um ill pastbin the output ?
[10:19] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:19] <cristian_c> I installed Lazarus, but when I open it or open a project. lpi I got errors
[10:19] <drzero> wilbur, I'm /MSG-ing you
[10:19] <Dixie_> probably working with an atheros chipset
[10:19] <drzero> wilbur, talk to me in that window - I'll help
[10:20] <cristian_c> the problem is due to not installing some components
[10:20] <pnorman> So, my ubuntu server crashes, but only on its side
[10:20] <nava> is canonical writing a sdk ? (for tablet , tv ,smartphones and also desktop)
[10:21] <drzero> Dixie_, there is a solution for atheros :)
[10:21] <drzero> like "there is an app for that" :) but not exactly
[10:21] <Dixie_> madwifi?
[10:21] <drzero> aye
[10:22] <dns_> nava what is your question?   the source code for ubuntu tv has been released
[10:22] <cristian_c> I downloaded bgrabitmap and I ran the steps to install the .lpk file in the package
[10:22] <drzero> Dixie_, or even more fun http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/modify.html if you're a HAM :)
[10:22] <nava> no for SDK
[10:23] <nava> i wanna know what is SDK language
[10:23] <cristian_c> I've compiled through its lazarus window reached by one of its menu, but after it completed the installation of the component it has failed and an error box appeared
[10:24] <wilbur> but yeh my comp is very old and unity ubuntu wasnt running to well (not trying to bash unity i use it on my main computer i love it but for old comps not the way to go )
[10:24] <dns_> SDK, Software Development Kit,   usually a compiler tool chain, source code, libraries etc
[10:24] <wilbur> so im trying this lubuntu so far i like it jsut would be sweet to get wifi working
[10:24] <nava> yes and i want to know what is it language
[10:24] <bazhang> wilbur, show us the pastebin please
[10:25] <dns_> i am not sure, i have not yet looked at the code but i would guess it is c / c++ and python
[10:26] <nava> but i  heard Qt 5 and html 5
[10:26] <dns_> it might be, go to the project page and look
[10:27] <wilbur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/811687/
[10:27] <nyancattt> is there a announcment that say ubuntu not going to support netbook ?
[10:27] <eugenmayer> having this http://pastie.org/3224028 in my sudoers file, i still cant su -s chiliproject and then "sudo gitolite mysql" …any ideas?
[10:27] <bazhang> nyancattt, no of course not
[10:28] <Dixie_> oh broadcom
[10:28] <cristian_c> The popup window says: 'The package bgrabitmappack does not have any "Register" procedure, which typically means, it does not provide any IDE addon. Installing it will probably only increase the size of the IDE and may even make it unstable. Hint: if you want to use a package in your project, use the "Add to project" menu item'
[10:29] <Dixie_> what is the broadcom STA driver? wl?
[10:29] <bazhang> !broadcom | wilbur have a look here
[10:29] <cristian_c> with two buttons: Cancel and 'Install it, I like the fat'
[10:29] <bazhang> Dixie_, see above please
[10:30] <drzero> wilbur, what you pasted to pastebin as lspci output doesn't match what you pasted to our /MSG chat window
[10:30] <nongban> hi....gusw
[10:30] <nyancattt> where's the link to official ubuntu for netbook ?
[10:30] <wilbur> hmm maybe it didnt put it all the lines
[10:30] <bazhang> nyancattt, its the same for all. there is not a une anymore
[10:30] <bazhang> !une | nyancattt
[10:31] <wilbur> or maybe i just messed up sry running on low fuel its late getting sleepy
[10:31] <cristian_c> I have clicked on 'Install it, I like the fat' and another popup window appeared: 'The package "bgrabitmappack 5.5" has been marked for installation. Currently supports only lazarus packages with static links. The installation has real need to do a rebuild and a reboot of Lazarus. Want to quickly rebuild Lazarus?'
[10:31] <wilbur> but ima look at that site i think i can figure it our from there
[10:32] <wilbur> if not ill be bothering ya again but thanks for the help :D love buntu support kicks butt
[10:32] <nyancattt> ooohhh i see thakns
[10:32] <drzero> wilbur, there is no network interfaces at all in your latest paste to me - perhaps you're correct and sleep messed it up
[10:32] <drzero> wilbur, check you killswitch for wifi
[10:33] <cristian_c> I clicked Yes, and I think it did not seem to have happened at all. But then all the lazarus windows have gone to freeze not showing more their content. Finally, the program is closed, but then reopened. But reopening continued to require automatic lazarus components despite I had just installed one
[10:33] <wilbur> yeh did that and when i look at the network manager when i manually click the buttom it will either say device not ready (firmware missing)
[10:33] <wilbur> or dissabled by hardware swicth
[10:34] <cristian_c> How do I understand something more? Did something go wrong in the installation of the component?
[10:37] <wilbur> ill stick here but ill be right back
[10:37] <wilbur> gonna give it a shot myself just to see something
[10:38] <drzero> wilbur, k
[10:39] <Huffameg> good morning! I have a problem making my cabled computer an hotspot so that I can connect with my phone. I've followed this recipe: http://freshtutorial.com/create-your-own-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-11-10/ but the only thing that happens is that the "connecting to wifi"-symbol is active, until a dialogue box asking me to give the password again pops up. someone who can help?
[10:40] <theadmin> !ics | Huffameg - follow this
[10:40] <FredN> How can I start a program running in the terminal at startup?
[10:41] <Myrtti> FredN: after you've logged in, or before that?
[10:41] <theadmin> FredN: gnome-terminal -e 'progname'
[10:41] <wookienz> .j #plex
[10:41] <wookienz> oops
[10:41] <aries> im trying to get sound through my normal sound card but the only device listed is the hdmi sound through the nvidia card
[10:41] <FredN> when I log in,
[10:42] <FredN> OK thank you
[10:42] <scarleo> FredN, you mean like autostart it? Add it to startup applications
[10:43] <drzero> ok - now I'm gonna ask for a little help too
[10:43] <drzero> since #xubuntu seems dead
[10:43] <drzero> anyone using Thunar?
[10:43] <theadmin> drzero: Yes?
[10:43] <FredN> yes, that's what I mean...but it is a command...I want it to list my tasks, with the command 'task'
[10:44] <theadmin> FredN: gnome-terminal -e 'task && read junk'
[10:44] <drzero> theadmin, Thunar + PTP camera -> clue me in?
[10:44] <scarleo> FredN, yes you can add any command to startup applications
[10:44] <theadmin> FredN: The "read junk" will stop it from closing
[10:44] <FredN> okey good, thanks!
[10:45] <theadmin> drzero: I don't even know what a PTP camera is
[10:45] <wilbur> drzero, so i pretty much just ran lcspi and then saw bcm4318 and then went to synaptic searched bcm4318 and found a package for it and im installing it right now and uh gonna restart and see what happend
[10:45] <drzero> theadmin, one of those digital cams that when connected to USB does not present itself as mass storage but rather uses PTP protocol
[10:46] <aries> aplay -l does not display inernal sound card
[10:46] <wilbur> drzero, guess what better news i didnt evan have to restart its working right now
[10:46] <drzero> wilbur, excellent :)
[10:46] <theadmin> drzero: Oh... no idea
[10:46] <drzero> ok
[10:47] <wilbur> drzero, thanks for the help and if u havnt u should check this lubuntu stuff out its not half bad brnag this old comp back lol looks liek crap though but runs smooth
[10:47] <drzero> anyone have an idea how to make Thunar see PTP camera as a volume / filesystem of sorts?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> drzero  "PTP on Linux and other free software/open source operating systems is supported by a number of libraries, such as libgphoto and libptp, libraries used by applications such as digiKam and F-Spot."
[10:52] <drzero> MonkeyDust, thanks - I know - it is just that I've heard of people being able to integrate it with Thunar and I wasn't able to figure out how - as far as getting pics off it is not a problem with Gtkam
[10:52] <drzero> but it would be nice to see it as a volume
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> drzero  try mounting it somehow
[10:53] <aries> i don't know why ubuntu isn't dtecting my soundcard only my nvidia card
[10:54] <theadmin> drzero: ptpfs can help (just found it, not sure if it's in the repos)
[10:54] <theadmin> !find ptp
[10:54] <theadmin> ...not that
[10:54] <theadmin> !find ptpfs
[10:54] <theadmin> >.<
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> try again theadmin :p
[10:54] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Well, it's not there lol
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> http://www.dankulp.com/ptpfs/
[10:55] <drzero> theadmin, ptpfs is dead
[10:55] <theadmin> drzero: Oh, well, then no ideas.
[10:55] <drzero> I can mount with fuse gphotofs
[10:56] <drzero> just want to automate :)
[10:56] <chex_> Hello, I'm having troubles installing a new version of LibRTMP. When trying to delete the old version it complains about dependencies.
[10:56] <cipher__> Is there anyway for me to open a shell up without/before using the gui login?
[10:56] <JOhn> y doesnt any1 talk 2 me!!
[10:56] <theadmin> cipher__: Ctrl-Alt-F2
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> cipher__  ctrl-alt t
[10:57] <cipher__> I swear I tried that
[10:57] <bazhang> JOhn, whats the support question
[10:57] <drzero> JOhn, perhaps cuz you haven't asked?
[10:57] <cipher__> maybe it doesn't recognize my keyboard either :(
[10:57] <cipher__> :'(
[10:57] <JOhn> im just being friendly
[10:57] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: C-M-t will only work if you already logged in
[10:57] <bazhang> JOhn, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic  here for ubuntu support
[10:58] <cipher__> thanks. I am going to give that a try.
[10:58] <JOhn> me 2
[10:58] <Huffameg> I tried to do what is said on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing but when I change the setting to "share with other computers" i can't connect at all..
[11:00] <salvatore> ciao
[11:00] <iNeedHelp-2> hello
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> list
[11:01] <iNeedHelp-2> how to JB ipod touch 2g 4.2.1
[11:01] <iNeedHelp-2> ??
[11:01] <iNeedHelp-2> :(
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> what's JB?
[11:01] <oCean> iNeedHelp-2: how is that an #ubuntu issue?
[11:01] <iNeedHelp-2> jailbreak
[11:01] <iNeedHelp-2> :D
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> iNeedHelp-2  wrong channel
[11:02] <iNeedHelp-2> sorry
[11:02] <iNeedHelp-2> i dont know
[11:02] <iNeedHelp-2> i'm newbie
[11:03] <LjL> iNeedHelp-2: try #jailbreakQA
[11:03] <drzero> maybe iNeedHelp-2  got one of the first UbuntuTV's on the market :)
[11:03] <wilbur> ok this migh tbe a question for #lubuntu but anyone here know how to install lubuntu restrcted extras?
[11:04] <theadmin> wilbur: There aren't any, just install "ubuntu-restricted-extras" like usual
[11:05] <wilbur> ah was spelling restricted wrong ha way to late i need to leave my computer
[11:06] <athena_> I have a question: can thunar coexist with gvfs-backends?
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> athena_  what do you want to do?
[11:07] <athena_> I use blue-fish for html edit and it depends on gvfs-backends
[11:08] <athena_> my desktop is xubuntu
[11:08] <theadmin> athena_: Doesn't Thunar use gvfs for automounting?
[11:08] <theadmin> athena_: Either way, it shouldn't hurt thunar
[11:08] <cipher__> I have installed the latest version of Ubuntu on a xps 15z laptop. On the live cd wireless, the keyboard, and trackpad worked well. Now that I am on the installed version non of those seem to work. Also before booting I have to add the flag --acpi=noirq before it will boot. The login screen comes up and i am unable to do anything.
[11:09] <athena_> may it be, but if you install both of the packages, thunar will show on after 0.5 min when you launche it
[11:10] <AxonetBE> is it bad to call a file like this    app_name_namespace:task
[11:11] <theadmin> AxonetBE: Why not? : is not a special character in Bash so it should be okay.
[11:11] <AxonetBE> theadmin: ok, but just to check because I guess on windows it is not possible :)
[11:11] <theadmin> AxonetBE: Yeah, you won't be able to open the file on Windows until you rename it
[11:12] <AxonetBE> theadmin: but don't need it on windows, it is just a temp file on ubuntu so perfect
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> AxonetBE  in windows, a dot is meant for extensions, in linux, it isnt
[11:12] <cipher__> *same question, browser crashed.
[11:14] <laplinker> hello all
[11:15] <laplinker> can ne1 help me with some command line fu?
[11:15] <theadmin> laplinker: Yes?
[11:16] <laplinker> i want to emulate a disconnection and then a connection of a device using the usb port, thought is to cut power to the port and then turn power back on. so far no success. any tips/thought?
[11:16] <laplinker> thanks!
[11:17] <laplinker> forgot to mention:starting point is device connected and mounted via the USB port
[11:17] <Ben64> laplinker: can't cut power to a port
[11:17] <theadmin> laplinker: What is it you want to acheive anyway? Why do you need to disconnect it?
[11:19] <laplinker> i have an open source forensic project i use with iPhones, the problem is that in iOS>5 (as far as i know) it will only allow access to 5 folders on the device FS, I can choose which 5 but only after i unplug+plug the cable to the mcahine
[11:19] <wookienz> team, my permissions theory is rubbish. if i mount a nfs share, should i chmod 777 the .avi files so i can mke changes on the nfs client side. Or do i really need to change how i mount it so not everything is executable?
[11:21] <Coldkey21> anyone able to answer a question on getting dual monitors working off of a gtx 550?
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> wookienz  it's an /etc/exports thing, you can set it to rw, but not to rwx
[11:24] <Coldkey21> how do i get to /etc/exports
[11:25] <Ben64> Coldkey21: i don't think that was meant for you, and have you tried "nvidia-settings"
[11:26] <Coldkey21> there is an nvidia serever settings
[11:26] <mxj> hi, http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ is broken
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> mxj  yes
[11:27] <mxj> The error message `This webpage has a redirect loop` Chrome
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> mxj  same here
[11:27] <loconut> hello. I upgraded from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. I've installed gnome-shell and gnome and no matter whether I select gnome or ubuntu classic, i always get stupid unity
[11:27] <wookienz> MonkeyDust: so no fstab entry fo mapping to UId of 1028 for example?
[11:28] <loconut> i put in user name, click the sprocket, select ubuntu classic, enter password, login
[11:28] <loconut> get unity.
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> wookienz  cant say, doesnt ring a bell
[11:30] <robin0800> loconut: you need gnome classic and normal gnome gnome shell that is is probably crashing and using fail safe to load unity
[11:31] <loconut> ok so how do I get from here to there
[11:34] <robin0800> loconut: install gnome-panel or try and find out why gnome shell is crashing it might be graphic drivers
[11:35] <loconut> aptitude install gnome-panel says zero will be installed
[11:37] <dns_> loconut gnome 2 has been removed
[11:38] <loconut> ok well this stupid unity thing that I cant even find terminal in has to go. I'd really like my menu back at the top.
[11:38] <loconut> are you telling me I need to go back to 11.04?
[11:38] <jrib> loconut: use something like xfce if that's what you want
[11:39] <loconut> thanks canonical!
[11:39] <loconut> has the suicide rate gone up since 11.10?
[11:39] <jrib> loconut: please stay on-topic...
[11:39] <loconut> i was a convert from RHEL
[11:39] <sh96dow> hai guys
[11:39] <kvarley> How can I extract a the contents of a subdirectory within a tar archive without it creating the parent folder?
[11:39] <jrib> loconut: GNOME 3 uses gnome shell by default; it doesn't have the menu you are used to either
[11:39] <loconut> if you think 11.10 being a pain is not on topic in #ubuntu, we must not be on the same planet.
[11:40] <jrib> loconut: this channel is for support only
[11:40] <loconut> well fuck
[11:40] <dns_> kvarley tar -tvf (to display the files in the archive)   tar xf  filename
[11:42] <kvarley> dns_: Doing "tar xzf archive.tar.gz parentfolder/" extracts all the subfolders of parentfolder/ but it outputs parentfolder/subfolder1/. How can I stop it making the parentfolder?
[11:42] <jrib> kvarley: grep the man page for the word "strip"
[11:47] <kvarley> jrib: Thank you so much!  I was stuck because I didn't know what to search for. I now have it working. I do tar --strip-components=1 to remove the parent directory from the filenames before they are extracted =D
[11:47] <cipher__> Has anyone here have experience with "ironhide"?
[11:48] <cipher__> or bumblebee
[11:49] <Xinul> Hi everyone, is it possible to let x-applications run using ssh -X, then stop the connection (but let the applications still run) and later restart it (with the applications still running)?
[11:50] <blackarchan> Hi people.It is normal for chrome to use more than 1.5GB of ram with 11-15opened tabs?
[11:55] <scarleo> Xinul, guess it depends on what app. I would also guess that most X-apps would require a display to run
[11:56] <bullgard6> '~$ pgrep -l wibb: 2319 gwibber-service; 2378 gwibber-service; 2379 gwibber-service'. How to properly restart the Gwibber GUI part in this situation? [GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[11:59] <aes> Hi, got a little question .. How can i desactivate my firewire port?
[12:03] <cipher__> for some reason this package won't delete
[12:03] <cipher__> http://pastebin.com/Bj5wExp6
[12:04] <Doxin> is it possible to check if a package is installed from a bash script? i know dpkg -s <package> checks for a package, but it doesn't return machine friendly output. any pointers?
[12:05] <cipher__> I installed the package by apt-get about 15 minutes ago
[12:05] <cipher__> Package: ironhide Status: deinstall ok half-installed
[12:05] <mellowmatter> error on my harddisk. but cant move files without system crashing. so when I try to move them, I lose files.
[12:06] <mellowmatter> cant reparir disk because system i busy.
[12:06] <mellowmatter> these are my own photos. gone forever.
[12:06] <scarleo> cipher__, http://askubuntu.com/questions/76070/i-cant-uninstall-ironhide-or-install-any-other-packages
[12:06] <mellowmatter> how can I save the rest ?
[12:07] <Zentaur> hello
[12:08] <andyhuzhill> zentaur: hi
[12:08] <cipher__> scarleo: wow, thanks :p
[12:08] <mellowmatter> how do i safely move files from an encrypted account ? I use Nautilus run as root right now.
[12:08] <Zentaur> could someone help me with the permissions of /var/www to use it with vsftpd?
[12:08] <Zentaur> everything works but i can't upload files
[12:11] <sattu94> Zentaur: Are you trying the Uploading anonymously ?
[12:12] <sattu94> Zentaur: Because iirc you have to enable uploading even for logged in users.
[12:13] <Zentaur> no, im uploading as a logged user
[12:14] <Zentaur> i do't want it to log anonimously
[12:14] <Zentaur> excuse me for my bad english
[12:15] <asaint> hey guys is there any spore like game for ubuntu
[12:16] <LjL> asaint: doubtful
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> games are beyond me
[12:18] <wireless> asaint: not many good games for linux....I play ALL KINDS of games through wine though
[12:18] <wireless> especially games that are 4 or 5 years old
[12:18] <wireless> wine has gotten SO much better with gaming
[12:18] <wireless> more games work than dont
[12:19] <scarleo> there a re a lot of good games for Linux :)
[12:19] <rigved> wireless: there are many decent native linux games which will soon be released. they are based on the unigen engine. example OilRush.
[12:20] <wireless> rigved: really? sweet!
[12:20] <wireless> my favorite linux games are: armagetronad, supertuxkart, and open-arena
[12:21] <asaint> the way i see it "linux" is getting better in many ways thanks to the developers and stuff
[12:21] <rigved> wireless: check out OilRush. there are many others based on the same engine. also, now that Id Tech 4 engine and Doom3 are also open-source, many of the current linux games will improve (eg. Open Arena).
[12:21] <asaint> games is no exception
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> the future is open
[12:22] <wireless> rigved. DOOM#3 is free and open source now!>!>!>!>!?!??!
[12:22] <wireless> you rock
[12:22] <wireless> Guest33297 just PMed me and wants to know why he was kicked
[12:22] <wireless> nevermind his name was cipher
[12:23] <asaint> open arena is one good game
[12:23] <wireless> why was cipher kicked/
[12:23] <wireless> yea open arena is fun! I'm naturally good at it too
[12:23] <oCean> wireless: he can ask/discuss in #ubuntu-ops
[12:23] <wireless> oh okay
[12:23] <wireless> i'kll tell him
[12:23] <scarleo> wireless, also checkout Alien Arena, Ryzom, Crayon Physics
[12:24] <rigved> world of goo
[12:24] <wireless> I never liked Alien Arena
[12:24] <Benkinooby> wireless, or teeworlds... a nice but funny 2d comic-style shooter
[12:25] <wireless> omg how do I get oilrush beta?
[12:25] <wireless> it looks so cool!
[12:25] <scarleo> wireless, Oh, and Defcon
[12:25] <scarleo> wireless, Software Center
[12:25] <ssta> the humble bundles generally look quite good
[12:25] <zelluz> woot, Defcon?
[12:25] <wireless> none of those games are in my package manager
[12:26] <wireless> ugh it costs 19.95
[12:26] <wireless> hopefully someone will pirate it
[12:26] <prouter> Hi ok, I have a problem - I installed a new package "python-pastebin" and I've no idea how to run it now.
[12:26] <wireless> lame
[12:26] <ssta> that's not that much for a game is it?
[12:26] <oCean> !piracy | wireless
[12:26] <SoulShadow> wait
[12:26] <asaint> nexuiz is good too
[12:26] <SoulShadow> what costs $20
[12:27] <prouter> you would think, "python-pastebin" in the terminal but nope
[12:27] <wireless> oilrush
[12:27] <wireless> oilrush costs $20
[12:27] <SoulShadow> humble bundle costs whatever you pay for it
[12:27] <scarleo> zelluz, http://www.introversion.co.uk/defcon/downloads/
[12:27] <SoulShadow> i've never heard of oil rush
[12:27] <SoulShadow> sounds dumb
[12:27] <wireless> SoulShadow its noT!
[12:27] <wireless> it allows you to play killer games on linux
[12:27] <ssta> prouter: python-pastebin is a library for python, not an application
[12:27] <zelluz> scarleo: thanks!
[12:27] <wireless> http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/10/oil-rush-beta-arrives-is-ubuntu.html
[12:28] <prouter> ssta: oooOOOOOOOhhhHHH woops.
[12:28] <prouter> ssta: Thanks
[12:28] <ssta> prouter: what are you looking to do exactly?  Would pastebinit be what you want?
[12:28] <prouter> ssta: that's exactly it - thanks
[12:29] <asaint> it shows on ubuntu software center(oil rush)
[12:29] <wireless> it costs money though
[12:30] <oCean> wireless: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat (also games etc) and leave this channel for tech support.
[12:30] <ssta> umm, many things cost money.
[12:32] <asaint> oCean my bad am the one who started this
[12:33] <oCean> asaint: np, but the -offtopic channel is just the right place for that
[12:33] <collages> how to install google earth into 10.04?
[12:33] <collages> http://www.huanlefuqi.com/club/?fromuid=1014057
[12:33] <asaint> oCean will remember this for next time :)
[12:33] <collages> fk!send a wrong url
[12:34] <Xuryc> Hi
[12:34] <collages> http://www.google.com/earth/index.html
[12:34] <collages> but it's need rpm and alien?
[12:34] <LjL> collages: uh no, they have a .deb
[12:35] <collages> yes,i download the deb packages
[12:35] <collages> but dpkg -i *.deb ,it's need alien and rpm
[12:35] <LjL> collages: oh... well, if you don't like that, maybe there is a PPA, let me look
[12:36] <collages> ok tks
[12:36] <LjL> collages: uhm not really. best bet seems to be to install it from that .deb, sorry.
[12:38] <bullgard4> What is the function of the file ~/.ICEauthority?
[12:40] <collages> ..... ok....
[12:42] <Indiana>  
[12:42] <ssta> bullgard4: it's a mechanism for storing authentication tokens for the ICE interprcess communication protocol
[12:44] <ssta> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Communications_Engine
[12:47] <VectorX> 10.10, with the dash, how do i open multiple instances of the same app ?
[12:47] <VectorX> im trying to open the Remote Desktop Viewer for instance
[12:47] <VectorX> keeps going to the original instance
[12:48] <Gentoo64> vector, can you right click and choose new window?
[12:48] <Gentoo64> or maybe try ctrl + click or shift + click or alt + click
[12:48] <scarleo> VectorX, Never used RDV but maybe there is something in program menu that let's you open a new window?
[12:48] <Gentoo64> lol
[12:49] <bb> huhu
[12:49] <VectorX> scarleo  well anything even firefox
[12:50] <scarleo> VectorX, in Firerfox do ctrl + N
[12:50] <bullgard4> ssta: What is an »uthentication token«? RFC2828 does not know such a term.
[12:50] <bullgard4> ssta: What is an »authentication token«? RFC2828 does not know such a term.
[12:51] <northernen> Is there a way to mount a NTFS network share?
[12:51] <txomon|home> hi, can anyone help me setting bootp and tftpd at the begginning?
[12:51] <txomon|home> northernen, yes
[12:51] <txomon|home> its name is samba
[12:52] <northernen> txomon|home, isn't that the other way around?
[12:52] <txomon|home> northernen, ?
[12:52] <scarleo> !samba | northernen
[12:53] <txomon|home> If you have X, then it usually gets mounted when you click on it
[12:53] <northernen> txomon|home, thought it was used for Windows machines to read Linux partitions.
[12:53] <LjL> northernen: no
[12:53] <paulus68> I try to repair my grub from point 15 using this guide however I get the message that insmod linux no such file or directory what can I do to solve this?  ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1599293
[12:53] <LjL> northernen: the partition type (filesystem) is irrelevent with network shares
[12:53] <LjL> northernen: what matters is using a common protocol (like SMB)
[12:53] <txomon|home> so anyone can help me setting up bootpd and tftpd
[12:53] <txomon|home> ?
[12:54] <northernen> LjL, ah yeah. Cheers, will take a look!
[12:54] <bb> hallo
[12:54] <VectorX> is there a benchmark app for display and hdd speeds gui based?
[12:54] <bullgard4> VectorX: Yes.
[12:55] <bb> how can i install grub .deb packadge from the chrooted console if the packadge is on live usb system?
[12:55] <Gentoo64> vector, for graphics glxgears can give you a rough idea but its sort of console
[12:55] <Gentoo64> hdd speeds idk a gui
[12:56] <Gentoo64> hdparm can be used
[12:56] <VectorX> bullgard4 thats great
[12:56] <VectorX> Gentoo64 im mainly trying to get and idea of ubuntu performance on the hardware
[12:57] <Gentoo64> you might as well just run the cli commands
[12:57] <VectorX> k
[12:57] <Gentoo64> hdparm -Tt /dev/sda will check read speeds
[12:57] <txomon|home> does anyone know about xinetd? I don't understand it
[12:57] <Gentoo64> for graphics theres benchmarks like heaven but ive never used them
[12:58] <VectorX> ok ill check it out
[12:59] <Gentoo64> ive never used it (dno how it works) but i think theres a phoronix test suite with a load of different benchmarks in it
[12:59] <Gentoo64> no idea if its in repos or not
[12:59] <VectorX> ty
[13:00] <VectorX> installing
[13:00] <scarleo> txomon|home, WHat is it you don't understand?
[13:00] <txomon|home> scarleo, how can it work without a /etc/inetd.conf
[13:00] <txomon|home> file
[13:02] <VectorX> im in a vnc from win7 to ubuntu, and switched to a fullscreen of winserver 2008 which is a rdp of the ubuntu, how can i switch back to the main ubuntu desktop ?
[13:02] <scarleo> txomon|home, I don't know, maybe someone designed it that way :)
[13:03] <txomon|home> ... XD
[13:03] <txomon|home> I have to suppose so
[13:03] <txomon|home> the other problem, is that there is another version, xinetd,...
[13:03] <txomon|home> which seems the one being used currently
[13:05] <scarleo> txomon|home, sorry, I don't understand, yo have two versions of xinetd installed?
[13:05] <txomon|home> scarleo, one of inetd and other xinetd
[13:05] <txomon|home> don't know why, are dependecies of bootpd and tftpd
[13:05] <txomon|home> I am trying to make netboot
[13:06] <Metaliinuxite> hey
[13:06] <Metaliinuxite> Will the live distro automatically detect my two monitors se'tup?
[13:06] <ssta> probably not
[13:06] <scarleo> txomon|home, doesn'tsound like a good plan too use them both, I don't think I can be of much help with that, sorry
[13:07] <Metaliinuxite> ssta: im struggling with my xorg.conf...
[13:07] <Jokn> Where is the option to change the view to "list" in the default file manager on 11.10 ?
[13:07] <Jokn> it seems to be stuck in icon mode
[13:07] <txomon|home> scarleo, it seems like I can't choos
[13:07] <bullgard6> '~$ pgrep -l wibb: 2319 gwibber-service; 2378 gwibber-service; 2379 gwibber-service'. How to properly restart the Gwibber GUI part in this situation? [GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[13:07] <txomon|home> choose* xinetd seems to be the v2
[13:07] <scarleo> Jokn, View->List
[13:08] <Jokn> I don't see a view option
[13:08] <scarleo> Jokn, take the mouse all the way up to the panel when nautilus is active
[13:08] <meerkats> in unity, whats the shortcut to open a terminal?
[13:08] <Jokn> ah, tricky
[13:08] <Jokn> thanks
[13:09] <scarleo> meerkats, ctrl +alt + T
[13:09] <LjL> Jokn: that goes for all programs, it's the way to show their menubar.
[13:09] <Jokn> Yea, I see how it works now. Thanks.
[13:10] <ryannathans>  after changing cloned mac address to connect to a wifi network it never connects,  connects fine with the box left empty though... i keep getting deauthenticated according to dmesg
[13:11] <Jokn> ryannathans: is there mac filtering enabled on the wifi network?
[13:11] <insectatorious> Guys, in Ubuntu 10.04 I'm trying to make the 'nomodeset' option permanent on grub. There is no file at '/etc/default/grub'. WHat do I do now?
[13:12] <ryannathans> Jokn: no
[13:12] <pkug> Hi there! I'm experiencing problems with Slim (also XDM) and Consolekit, XSession seems to start consolekit session but it's inactive and non-local.. anybody else had this ? can it be a permission problem ?
[13:13] <robin0800> insectatorious: perhaps its menu.1st in your case
[13:13] <LjL> robin0800: you don't mean menu.lst?
[13:13] <bullgard4> insectatorious: Please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2.
[13:14] <robin0800> LjL: not sure
[13:14] <insectatorious> robin0800 and bullgard4 thanks
[13:15] <Jokn> ryannathans: So everything is working then?
[13:15] <ardrone> hi
[13:15] <LjL> insectatorious: is the package "grub2-common" installed?
[13:15] <ryannathans> Jokn: everything works fine until I put a different mac in the cloned box
[13:16] <LjL> insectatorious: (type "apt-cache policy grub2-common" to know)
[13:16] <ryannathans> Jokn: then it doesn't connect, it just sits there, gets auth and after a while a deauth.
[13:16] <Jokn> ryannathans: why change the MAC address?
[13:16] <insectatorious> LjL: Unable to locate package
[13:16] <ryannathans> Jokn: there is another network i need to access but has mac filtering
[13:16] <ryannathans> Jokn: if i can't get it working here i can't get it working there
[13:16] <ardrone> i have question too :)
[13:17] <insectatorious> I did an upgrade from 9.04
[13:17] <LjL> insectatorious: then i guess maybe that left GRUB version 1 installed, not sure, but in that case, you'd want to change /boot/grub/menu.lst (i think that's the path, anyway) like robin0800 says.
[13:17] <Mike90-> Hi someone use amd e350 zacate platform ? when i play a totem video xorg crash, in gnome3shell
[13:18] <insectatorious> LjL: thanks :D
[13:18] <Jokn> ryannathans: when you do a ifconfig, does it show that MAC ?
[13:19] <ardrone> LjL i have notebook with 8 gb issd and 750 gb 7500 rpm hdd... i need to install ubuntu on 8 gb hdd but i will seperate home directory in 750 gb hdd... how should i configure to get fastest boot? regards :)
[13:19] <insectatorious> LjL: I run sudo update-grub after I'm done adding the line to menu.lst?
[13:19] <ryannathans> Jokn: yes, when i put in the cloned one, while connecting it has the new one
[13:19] <LjL> insectatorious: uhm, i don't remember anymore whether that's required... i suppose it can't hurt
[13:20] <LjL> ardrone: root on the SSD and home on the HDD sounds fine, except 8GB is a bit tight for root.
[13:20] <insectatorious> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#A.2BAC8-boot.2BAC8-grub.2BAC8-grub.cfg that's what I have to do...but its for GRUB 2
[13:20] <ardrone> what about sepearet prog files to hdd?
[13:21] <ryannathans> Jokn: i keep getting de--authed while connecting
[13:21] <LjL> ardrone: that's not strictly possible, as program files are scattered around the directory structure. but you could make a /usr partition in the HDD
[13:21] <Jokn> ryannathans: If the MAC shows correct with ifconfig, then I'm not sure what's going on with the auth on the wifi side.
[13:21] <ardrone> or i should i buy at least 16 gb issd?
[13:22] <HyperJapan> Hey guys
[13:22] <ryannathans> Jokn: it worked fine before i upgraded to 11.10
[13:22] <ryannathans> Jokn: was working on 10.10
[13:23] <LjL> ardrone: your choice. /usr in a separate partition should leave you with enough space on the SSD.
[13:23] <HyperJapan> I'm on Ubuntu 10.04, and every time I run any dpkg process it goes to configure a partially installed package which I want it to forget. The configuration process never finishes.  I tried removing the package to no avail. Anyone know how to make dpkg/apt forget the package?
[13:23] <LjL> HyperJapan: it's not easy. usually it's better to try solving the problem with the package. which package is it, and what happens?
[13:24] <ardrone> ok... thank you LjL for your advice. I will test it with /usr and /home on hdd and /root on issd and one last question :)
[13:24] <LjL> ardrone: not /root, but /
[13:24] <HyperJapan> LjL: It was the "Deepin Software Center", but it turns out a dependency is GTK 3. When I run any dpkg process it just sits on "Setting Up packagename"
[13:24] <LjL> ardrone: /root is a different thing
[13:24] <ardrone> what about /grub ? should i seperate a partition
[13:24] <ardrone> oh sorry i got :) I mean /
[13:24] <Vardan> hi all
[13:25] <HyperJapan> Vardan: Hello!
[13:25] <LjL> ardrone: i don't consider that necessary or particularly useful, but again your choice
[13:25] <LjL> HyperJapan: can you give me a link to the exact package you used? i'll have a look at what it does
[13:25] <llutz_> ardrone: i'd prefer to put /var on HDD not /usr, because /usr holds most of the applications and benefits most from being on ssd
[13:25] <Vardan> people I have tried to find the application which will allow me to start music and video via web-interface
[13:26] <LjL> llutz_: but 8GB...
[13:26] <Jokn> ryannathans: I'm not sure what changed between the versions to make it work.  I'd say a driver issue, but I believe you stated that it works fine if you don't clone the MAC.
[13:26] <llutz_> LjL: more than enough _here_ :) depends always on usage
[13:26] <HyperJapan> LjL:  http://mirror.bjtu.edu.cn/deepin/pool/main/d/deepin-software-center/deepin-software-center_2.0.5_all.deb
[13:26] <LjL> llutz_: i guess
[13:26] <Vardan> I have some, but they start music/video on my current machine not in the host machine
[13:26] <meerkats> in unity, I want to add more locations to the clock. It seems its not enough with writting the name of the city you want the time  from, tips?
[13:26] <ryannathans> Jokn: correct
[13:27] <Vardan> any suggestion?
[13:27] <LjL> HyperJapan: uhm, it's slow to download, will take a few minutes.
[13:27] <HyperJapan> LjL: Yeah its a mirror in china
[13:28] <Jokn> ryannathans: so yea I don't think that's a driver issue then, most home routers aren't going to provide much useful information as to what's going on that side either =\
[13:28] <ryannathans> Jokn: that's why I came here
[13:29] <ryannathans> Jokn: it's happening on linux mint 12 and ubuntu 11.10
[13:29] <ryannathans> Jokn: works find on linux mint 10
[13:29] <ryannathans> AKA 10.10
[13:31] <HyperJapan> LjL: I have things to do atm, would it be OK if you could pm me your findings and I'll get back to you in a few hours?
[13:31] <LjL> HyperJapan: ok
[13:31] <Jokn> ryannathans: yea not sure what changed between the versions, sorry
[13:31] <HyperJapan> LjL: Thank you.
[13:31] <ardrone> ok.. all i need to fast booting time. the rest is not so important.
[13:31] <HyperJapan> LjL: I will be offline so if need be take note of my nick.
[13:31] <llutz_> ardrone: 28 sec from power on to kdm :)   worth to buy a bigger faster ssd
[13:34] <ardrone> llutz_ it is alreay on it. i had'nt bought it... it is samsung 7 series chronos notebook
[13:34] <ardrone> with 8 gb ddr3 ram
[13:34] <ardrone> 750 gb hdd + 8 gb issd
[13:35] <llutz_> ardrone: oh ok
[13:35] <ardrone> and dual graphich card on it... etc...
[13:35] <ryannathans>  after changing cloned mac address to connect to a wifi network it never connects,  connects fine with the box left empty though... i keep getting deauthenticated according to dmesg
[13:36] <paulus68> after upgrading my server I get this error message error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found I got  this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=17624a1ae0146cc071093da2ba087254&t=1397629&page=2 earlier however I am still encountering problems is there a way to mount that drive through a live cd and get my stuff off or is it a waste of time?
[13:40] <ghabit> Hello. I have installed minidlna server and started it. 'sudo /etc/init.d/minidlna start'. How I can make it automatically? (Autostart)
[13:40] <paulus68> also not  able to launch reach this drive through gparted get as error there that lvm is not supported
[13:41] <HeGuru> ghabit: update-rc.d minidlna defaults
[13:42] <ryannathans> is mac spoofing in 11.10 borken?
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> ryannathans  what?
[13:42] <ryannathans>  after changing cloned mac address to connect to a wifi network it never connects,  connects fine with the box left empty though... i keep getting deauthenticated according to dmesg
[13:43] <Somelauw> Hi, is there a way to download without a browser?
[13:43] <LjL> !info wget | Somelauw
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  donload what?
[13:43] <scarleo> Somelauw, torrent?
[13:43] <Somelauw> LjL: Is there also a way to browse the files
[13:43] <player3> Sorry to ask in wrong channel, but does anyone know a channel with people knowledgable on pdf metadata?
[13:43] <Somelauw> The thing is I need to download a lot of files at once and I am to lazy to right click a lot
[13:43] <LjL> Somelauw: well no, to "browse" a file on the web you need a "browser". there are non-GUI browsers though.
[13:43] <drzero> hi again
[13:43] <Somelauw> scarleo: No, things that are actually on a website
[13:43] <LjL> Somelauw: wget can download recursively from links
[13:44] <scarleo> Somelauw, write a script that wgets the files
[13:44] <Somelauw> LjL: I mean browsing the internet like a filesystem. Using cd and ls to find the files that I need and using wget on them.
[13:45] <LjL> Somelauw: that's not possible, because the HTTP protocol doesn't really support it.
[13:46] <Somelauw> Can it be done by ftp?
[13:46] <LjL> Somelauw: if the server you want to reach has FTP, then yes, that sounds very much like it.
[13:47] <kldfnd> can i delete an account that of a user logged into my machine?
[13:47] <llutz_> Somelauw: theres httpfs2, dunno if you could use that for your task
[13:47] <LjL> Somelauw: just "ftp ftp.site.domain", and then you can more or less use the standard commands like "cd" and "ls"
[13:47] <sri_> hi
[13:47] <kldfnd> LjL: ?
[13:47] <Somelauw> Okay, so it actually needs to be builtin by the server? That's a pity.
[13:48] <LjL> kldfnd: i don't know, probably yes, but then weird things will happen to the user
[13:48] <allen_chan> hi, guys
[13:48] <kldfnd> how can i force the userdel command to get rid of this guy?
[13:49] <Somelauw> llutz_: I'll check that out
[13:49] <LjL> Somelauw: well FTP is an entirely separate protocol from HTTP, they don't go together. thing is, theoretically you could have something that downloads a webpage and presents all of the links it contains in an "ls" fashion, but i wonder what happens with JavaScript and all that stuff. maybe try that virtual filesystem that was suggested.
[13:50] <kldfnd> LjL your words confused my eyes, make use of pastebin
[13:50] <LjL> kldfnd: sorry?
[13:51] <kldfnd> how do i force the userdel command to get rid of the account in use?
[13:51] <zelluz> kldfnd: reboot then delete?
[13:51] <kldfnd> i don't want to lose my session.
[13:51] <kldfnd> logged into my server via ssh
[13:52] <kldfnd> and working on some things
[13:52] <LjL> so kill the user's processes first.
[13:52] <llutz_> kldfnd: kill the users login shell, deluser user, done
[13:53] <kldfnd> the user is actually logged into irssi
[13:53] <kldfnd> on the machine
[13:54] <Somelauw> By the way, this is the website. Opening it in firefox alreasy shows it kinda like a filesystem:  http://www.dcsc.tudelft.nl/~wb2207/transp/
[13:54] <llutz_> kldfnd: sudo pkill -U users-id
[13:54] <ghabit> Hello. I have installed minidlna server and started it. 'sudo /etc/init.d/minidlna start'. How I can make it automatically? (Autostart)
[13:54] <bullgard6> '~$ pgrep -l wibb: 2319 gwibber-service; 2378 gwibber-service; 2379 gwibber-service'. How to properly restart the Gwibber GUI part in this situation? [GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[13:55] <zelluz> Somelauw: I think that is Apache listing the directories and folders on the web server
[13:56] <LjL> ghabit: scroll up, you got a reply to that question
[13:56] <ghabit> LjL, i had one highlight, but after using it, i have a message 'System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/minidlna already exist.'
[13:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[13:57] <paulus68> after upgrading my server I get this error message error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' not found I got  this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=17624a1ae0146cc071093da2ba087254&t=1397629&page=2 earlier however I am still encountering problems is there a way to mount that drive through a live cd and get my stuff off or is it a waste of time?
[13:57] <paulus68> also not  able to launch reach this drive through gparted get as error there that lvm is not supported
[13:57] <LjL> ghabit: then that means it's already supposed to start at boot.
[13:57] <ghabit> LjL, but: 'etc/init.d/minidlna status' - 'is not running'
[13:58] <LjL> ghabit: if you start it manually, does it stop saying that?
[13:58] <Erealz> hello everyone i need some quick help im useing ubuntu 10.10 and you know how there an applet on the top dock control email and chat i accidently deleted it and i like to get it back ,but it not in the applet menue there gotta be a command or somthing can anyone help get it back?
[13:59] <ghabit> LjL, if i'm doing '/etc/init.d/minidlna start' and status after that, it says 'is running'. And it is running (I can see it on my TV)
[14:01] <LjL> ghabit: interesting... if you do "find /etc/rc* | grep minidlna" i assume you get a few entries?
[14:02] <Erealz> can some help me with applets ? im looking for an applet that not in the applet menue how else can i find the applet that im looking for?
[14:03] <ghabit> LjL, there are 7 files
[14:03] <ghabit> k20, s20, etc
[14:03] <ghabit> rc0
[14:03] <ghabit> rc1...till 6
[14:03] <ghabit> Like this: /etc/rc3.d/S20minidlna
[14:04] <_skpl> Erealz, the applet you are looking for, with the mail icon and volume, is 'indicator applet'
[14:04] <LjL> ghabit: yeah sounds right. afaik that means it's at least *supposed* to start by default, so something must be preventing it. see if /var/log/minidlna.log says anything relevant
[14:04] <icat> hey, can anyone tell me which package provides /usr/bin/X in oneiric?
[14:04] <Joost> if I were to use arpspoof to sniff my network, how would I go about undo-ing the forwarding? :P
[14:04] <LjL> icat: "dpkg -S /usr/bin/X"
[14:04] <icat> it should be xorg-server, but i can't find that on packages.ubuntu.com
[14:05] <Joost> like.. when I'm done and I don't want everything running via my netbook anymore xD
[14:05] <jo13> maybe you can find on pkgs.org
[14:05] <LjL> icat: xserver-xorg
[14:05] <Erealz> _skpl
[14:05] <icat> ty, much appreciated
[14:05] <Erealz> your were right
[14:05] <Erealz> thanx man
[14:05] <icat> didn't know about dpkg -S, helps me out a lot
[14:05] <pepp-elito> Hi i have managed to fuckup my ubuntu installation and must reinstall. But i would like to backup things in my home folder before reinstall. I have booted into live-cd but i'm not allowed to move my files in my previous homefolder to my other usb driver.  How could i make ubuntu live understand that this is truly my files. I have username and password
[14:05] <icat> thanks LjL
[14:05] <Erealz> but it just me or is the network manager not there?
[14:05] <LjL> !language | pepp-elito
[14:06] <LjL> pepp-elito: doesn't work if you use "sudo"?
[14:06] <jo13> try su
[14:06] <LjL> jo13: "su" doesn't work in Ubuntu.
[14:06] <LjL> jo13: not to get root, at least.
[14:07] <x_> pepp-elito, you have to do it as 'root', open the folder as 'root'
[14:08] <Erealz> is it just me or is network-manager applet not in the applet menue?
[14:08] <pepp-elito> sry it did.. i feel so stupid...
[14:08] <pepp-elito> just sudo start nautilus
[14:08] <LjL> pepp-elito: though, use "gksudo" for GUI apps like nautilus, not "sudo"
[14:08] <jo13> or try su and then nautilus
[14:09] <LjL> jo13: once again, "su" doesn't give you root in Ubuntu. please stop suggesting that.
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> su = switch user, not super user
[14:09] <pepp-elito> LjL, I have never understood the difference, could you explain.. Trying to learn. (gk = ui things but what is different)
[14:09] <jo13> oo sorry
[14:09] <CharminTheMoose> You could do 'su root' though?
[14:10] <llutz_> CharminTheMoose: you can't
[14:10] <Erealz> sudo = switch user do?
[14:10] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: no, the root account is simply disabled
[14:10] <llutz_> su only works with enabled root accounts
[14:10] <reactor> Erealz: super user do
[14:10] <LjL> MonkeyDust: who said it stood for super user?
[14:10] <reactor> how could you not know it?
[14:10] <Erealz> ahhh
[14:10] <LjL> pepp-elito: it's just that "sudo" is liable to mess up some config files when used with GUI apps. "gksudo" sets up the environment correctly.
[14:10] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, not on my system at least. Then again, this is a HD install
[14:10] <reactor> *spark*
[14:11] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: then you enabled it yourself at some point.
[14:11] <CharminTheMoose> Ahh
[14:12] <paulus68> when installing ubuntu server 10.11 I get the question no auto updates /update security automaticly or manage through landscape what is the best option here?
[14:13] <tigermatt> If you don't have Landscape then that option is of little use to you. I generally opt for no automatic updates, especially on any standalone production systems, since I prefer to ensure changes are audited and properly tracked.
[14:14] <jasonmsp> hey all.  Any suggestions for a good html/js/php/etc...  editor?
[14:14] <Erealz> gedit
[14:14] <Somelauw> vim, emacs
[14:15] <debian_noob> jasonmsp,  GUI?
[14:15] <paulus68> tigermatt: thanks
[14:16] <Somelauw> geany
[14:17] <jasonmsp> debian_noob: yes
[14:17] <paulus68> tigermatt: do you know what ubuntu desktop usb does? does this mean you get to launch your server in desktop mode? or am I wrong here
[14:18] <debian_noob> jasonmsp, bluefish
[14:18] <Dreadtower> Does anyone here know how to get Wine to see Program Files (x86)?
[14:18] <bullgard6> '~$ pgrep -l wibb: 2319 gwibber-service; 2378 gwibber-service; 2379 gwibber-service'. How to properly restart the Gwibber GUI part in this situation? [GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[14:18] <jasonmsp> debian_noob: thanks
[14:18] <Dreadtower> I can only ever see Program Files :(
[14:18] <debian_noob> jasonmsp, if you need a WYSIWYG html editor then komposer
[14:19] <debian_noob> but it messes up the code a lot
[14:19] <debian_noob> i prefer bluefish
[14:19] <jasonmsp> debian_noob: yeah, not WYSIWYG..  Thanks.
[14:19] <tigermatt> paulus, I can't say I've ever seen or used that option. Anyone else here used it?
[14:19] <jo13> what is the best webcam software for ubuntu than cheese?
[14:19] <LjL> !best | jo13
[14:20] <LjL> jo13: lots of programs *support* the webcam, it depends on what you want to do.
[14:20] <jo13> i want anothe program like cheese
[14:20] <jo13> and i don't know the name
[14:20] <jo13> that why i asked
[14:21] <LjL> !info camorama | jo13, maybe this
[14:21] <jo13> i will try that.. thank you Ljl :D
[14:22] <haylo> jo3 it is the best program for photos
[14:22] <haylo> dont let the name deceive you. i used to feel the same way
[14:23] <haylo> remember a lot of things in linux have been named as jokes
[14:23] <haylo> partially to make them more "free" in so many ways
[14:24] <jo13> camorama now working.. just installing this from synaptic.. really cool..
[14:24] <jo13> beside cheese.. this is heeeeemmmmm
[14:25] <genetic> "/topic"
[14:27] <haylo> jol3 does it work?
[14:28] <jo13> camorama working.. this program detect my webcam on acer aspire 4740g
[14:28] <anadon> unity is messed up and resets/reinstalls won't fix it.  https://imgur.com/88QaK
[14:29] <fil_> a question... does the system variable $DISPLAY change each time you boot the pc ? ubuntu 10.10
[14:29] <mydogsna1eisrudy> exit
[14:29] <LjL> fil_: it's generally just ":0"
[14:31] <fil_> LjL: because yesterday it was :0.0, today :1:0 and after reboot :0.0 again... do we know why ? it can create problems in scripts i have, so my question is why it happens, or how to prevent it.. mainly my question is concernig why
[14:33] <LjL> fil_: not sure. it's supposed to happen when you start a second graphical session, then the second user gets :1 as the display, but i've no idea why it would change on boot
[14:33] <haylo> i installed camorama jol3 but it sux. cheese is better. are you to manly for cheese?
[14:33] <LjL> haylo, no need to word things like that, what does being manly have to do with anything?
[14:34] <anadon> unity is messed up and resets/reinstalls won't fix it.  https://imgur.com/88QaK
[14:34] <fil_> LjL: start a second graphical session means? second monitor, second logged in user ?
[14:34] <fil_> anyone else who might have an idea?
[14:34] <LjL> fil_: not necessarily second monitor, just "switch user"
[14:35] <fil_> LjL: ah ok, i think i got it ... thanx man!
[14:36] <fil_> but it happens on boot... and changing scripts is not a big issue, but the fact itself is strange, and thats why i would like to know why
[14:38] <jo13> haylo. i use cheese too and camorama..  both are working
[14:38] <rymate1234> hello
[14:38] <rymate1234> I'm having a problem with mozilla firefox 11
[14:39] <root> hi
[14:39] <root> hello
[14:40] <Guest99140> hai
[14:40] <Guest99140> im alex
[14:40] <Guest99140> i like this room
[14:40] <Guest99140> i love my wife
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest99140  wrong channel
[14:40] <rymate1234> my firefox isn't integrating with the unity interface
[14:40] <rymate1234> I still have the addon installed
[14:40] <Guest99140> my wife looks like japanese girl
[14:40] <Guest99140> i like her
[14:41] <iceroot> !ot | Guest99140
[14:41] <iceroot> !rootirc | Guest99140
[14:41] <Guest99140> hi
[14:42] <Guest99140> hello algo2
[14:42] <rymate1234> brb
[14:43] <Guest99140> hi
[14:43] <bazhang> Guest99140, did you have an ubuntu support question
[14:43] <Guest99140> yes i get it
[14:43] <Guest99140> i want know why i have not wlan0
[14:43] <Guest99140> i install  a backtrack4
[14:44] <bazhang> Guest99140, then go to the backtrack support channel
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> Guest99140  type /join #backtrack-linux
[14:44] <bazhang> Guest99140, #backtrack-linux
[14:44] <Guest99140> ok
[14:44] <haylo> i install a backtrack why i no see your files yet?
[14:45] <bazhang> haylo, thats not helping
[14:46] <anadon> unity is messed up and resets/reinstalls won't fix it.  https://imgur.com/88QaK
[14:46] <tolo> hi, I am unable to locat #include <linux/config.h> where is it?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> anadon  you question being...?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> your*
[14:48] <asmcmnemonic> Hello, Ubuntu community.
[14:48] <sri_> hi everyone
[14:49] <asmcmnemonic> Hello, @sri.
[14:49] <anadon> MonkeyDust: I need help fixing it.
[14:50] <sri_> my 3-g usb modem doesnt work in ubuntu
[14:50] <sri_> it shows there is an error reading archives
[14:50] <sri_> what to do?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> anadon  start from the beginning, what have you done and tried before you came for advice
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> came here*
[14:51] <tarix> close
[14:52] <sri_> ^X
[14:52] <gmachine_24> I have a home network with several Linux/Ubuntu computers and several Windows computers. The Windows comps can see all shared devices and other comps on the network; the Ubuntu comps can see the network but cannot get a list of the network computers nor interact with them. However, I am able to play my music library, which is on a Ubuntu comp, using Squeezecenter software from any computer.
[14:53] <gmachine_24> I often get an error message to the effect that the networked computers cannot be mounted.
[14:55] <sri_> j c
[14:55] <sri_> join c
[14:56] <anadon> MonkeyDust: having some problems with synaptic crashing, which I traced back to a conflict with unity.  I ran reset and reset-icons on unity and the resulting is my desktop.  keep in mind full HD screen, so the fonts are gigantic.
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> sri_  try /join #c
[14:56] <anadon> though, synaptic now works :P
[14:57] <sri_> join #c
[14:57] <LjL> sri_: with a /
[14:57] <sri_> doesnt work
[14:57] <sri_> tried that
[14:58] <sri_> redirects back to this page
[14:58] <LjL> sri_: well maybe that's because the channel is ##c not #c
[14:58] <sri_> still not
[14:58] <LjL> sri_: also you need to be registered to join it
[14:58] <LjL> !register > sri_
[14:58] <sri_> i am registered-how to login
[14:58] <sri_> ?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> ##c Channel is open
[14:58] <LjL> sri_: /msg nickserv identify password (in the status window)
[15:00] <sri_> is the password which we have set or the verification one
[15:00] <sri_> ?
[15:01] <LjL> sri_: the password you have set, but you do need to verify the account first if you haven't
[15:01] <sri_> i tried that-does not work
[15:01] <LjL> sri_: ask in #freenode, they should be able to help better
[15:01] <sri_> join #freenode
[15:01]  * LjL rolls eyes
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> sri_  with /
[15:06] <john> guys when I open ubuntu software center it automatically gets gray and I have to force quit, I've tried reinstalling it, what do I do?
[15:06] <murfie> don't open it
[15:06] <LjL> murfie: that's not helpful
[15:06] <john> I need to install a deb, how do I do that without software center?
[15:06] <LjL> john: use "dpkg" or "gdebi"
[15:06] <debian_noob> john, dpkg -i
[15:07] <LjL> john: "gdebi" will handle dependencies, "dpkg" will not
[15:07] <debian_noob> john, yeah gdebi
[15:07] <gmachine_24> what is the command (CLI) to restore GRUB or GRUB2 please?
[15:07] <LjL> !grub | gmachine_24
[15:07] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 gmachine_24
[15:11] <xrdodrx> How can I view Japanese characters in virtual consoles? I've tried sudo setupcon but they still come up as diamonds...
[15:12] <xrdodrx> (Ubuntu Server 11.10)
[15:14] <Dj_FlyBy> is there anything on the LiveCD that will allow me to recover outlook email files from a defective windows installation that wont boot?
[15:14] <LjL> !info readpst | Dj_FlyBy
[15:15] <Dj_FlyBy> hmmm... don't need to convert it; j ust recover it
[15:15] <jolicloud> hi
[15:16] <LjL> Dj_FlyBy: uh, if you want to "recover" the files, you just need to mount the drive and copy them over.
[15:17] <rezar> test
[15:17] <LjL> !test | rezar
[15:25] <Guest19083> My LibreOffice spell check isn't working, any sugestions?
[15:25] <darbe> hi
[15:26] <jolicloud> hi
[15:26] <darbe> after ubuntu update all webmail settins are gone
[15:26] <darbe> ?
[15:26] <darbe> how can I fix it?
[15:27] <jolicloud> make setting aghen
[15:27] <darbe> how?
[15:28] <akem> hey
[15:28] <darbe> hey
[15:28] <collisionsystm> hello.
[15:28] <jolicloud> hey
[15:28] <darbe> aghen=again?
[15:28] <spacebug-> Guest95420: Go to Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Languages. See if you have choosen your langauge under "Default language for documents", and that it is a blue check mark next to that language
[15:28] <jolicloud> again yeap
[15:28] <akem> anyone using Tuxguard on 11.04? i was able to build it but i had to disable capability related stuff...so it's not functional / or maybe if someone can suggest me another app based firewall?
[15:29] <darbe> all email accounts
[15:29] <collisionsystm> just use GUFW
[15:29] <darbe> i don't remember pass
[15:29] <collisionsystm> OR use Firewall Builder
[15:29] <LjL> collisionsystm: gufw is not app-based, is it?
[15:29] <akem> collisionsystm, it is not application firewall is it?
[15:29] <jolicloud> pass for your email acont? darbe?
[15:30] <akem> collisionsystm, i need that for win32 applications that tends to connect everywhere without asking, on regular ports http etc.
[15:30] <darbe> i can remember emails but i cannot remember passwords of all
[15:30] <spacebug-> sorry I menat to Guest19083
[15:30] <collisionsystm> ah gotcha.
[15:31] <LjL> !info apf-firewall | akem, i see this in the repos but i can't say i've tried it
[15:31] <jolicloud> darbe this is bad
[15:31] <darbe> it is on my computer i guess
[15:31] <darbe> but it need some settings
[15:31] <collisionsystm> @akem is this for your home or business
[15:31] <jolicloud> sow?
[15:32] <darbe> I don't konw where I can find it
[15:32] <darbe> that's the problem
[15:32] <akem> collisionsystm, both
[15:32] <jolicloud> what setings?
[15:32] <darbe> webmail looks empty
[15:32] <darbe> nothing in it
[15:32] <akem> LjL, ty but i think it's regular fw as it is based on iptables too, will check a bit more
[15:33] <akem> i means it's not application fw.
[15:33] <LjL> akem: but in the description it says "application based network filtering"
[15:35] <jolicloud> cloud distro its the besst
[15:36] <akem> Ljl hm yea, strange.
[15:38] <collisionsystm> akem  I think one of these can help you. http://alternativeto.net/SearchResult.aspx?profile=all&search=application%20firewall&platform=linux
[15:39] <Alina> Hi all!
[15:42] <Erealz> when is the new long term support due out?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  april
[15:42] <Erealz> give me the option to move the dock
[15:43] <Erealz> kinda lame it stuck on the left
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> Erealz  you need a PPA for it, moment
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[15:45] <Meowmeow> Hi all! Who knows a program for Linux to emulate hardware?
[15:45] <auronandace> Meowmeow: virtualbox
[15:45] <Meowmeow> auronandace no it bad and slow
[15:45] <auronandace> Meowmeow: qemu
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> "bad and slow"
[15:46] <Meowmeow> auronandace: it's all wrong
[15:46] <compdoc> virtualbox is best when you need video performance, qemu is better for server. neither is bad nor slow
[15:46] <auronandace> Meowmeow: you are not easily satisfied are you?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> Meowmeow  please don't reject every advice you get here
[15:46] <Meowmeow> need layer like wine
[15:47] <auronandace> Meowmeow: why don't you use wine then?
[15:47] <Daekdroom> Wine is not a hardware emulator.
[15:47] <compdoc> if you have an old computer that doesnt have VT built into the cpu, nothing will run well
[15:47] <Meowmeow> there is adequate guru?
[15:48] <auronandace> Daekdroom: i'm well aware of that
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> Meowmeow  if you first told us what it is you want to do
[15:48] <Meowmeow> Adequate and competent ...
[15:48] <Daekdroom> auronandace, but he wasn't.
[15:48] <Daekdroom> Hardware emulators are nowhere near being layers like Wine.
[15:48] <bazhang> Meowmeow, specify exactly what you need
[15:49] <auronandace> Meowmeow: to get a good answer to your query, you'd need to be adequate and competent in defining your problem :)
[15:50] <compdoc> bazhang, sounds like he needs to troll a bit
[15:50] <skilz_> Hi I want to use this mirror, what lines do I have to put in /etc/apt/sources.list ?? http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/
[15:50] <Meowmeow> I want to run the program in a "closed bank / bottle." It gathers information about the system, I want to replace it.
[15:50] <DragonSlay> can i view pdf files in command line
[15:51] <Meowmeow> about sistem and computer...
[15:51] <oCean> !info evince | DragonSlay
[15:51] <Daekdroom> Meowmeow, replace what?
[15:51] <Daekdroom> The program?
[15:52] <Meowmeow> I want her to slip their names to devices.
[15:52] <bb> hello
[15:52] <smulcahy> hi, just installed 11.10 on a machine with existing windows 7 and after successful install, on reboot it goes straight to windows
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> i guess wants an isolated environment, from where he can monitor the system
[15:53] <Meowmeow> replaced by my values.
[15:53] <bazhang> Meowmeow, for what purpose. be very clear
[15:53] <Meowmeow> Undestand?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> Meowmeow  ^
[15:53] <DragonSlay> oCean, in console
[15:53] <smulcahy> are there are any known problems with grub in 11.10?
[15:53] <smulcahy> trying https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair atm but no joy so far
[15:53] <compdoc> you cant monitor the actual system from within a virtual system
[15:53] <smulcahy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/811962/ if anyone is interested
[15:53] <Meowmeow> Can you please tell this program.
[15:54] <skilz_> Hi I want to use this mirror, what lines do I have to put in /etc/apt/sources.list     http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/
[15:55] <Meowmeow> PPP-LLL-EEE-AAA-SSS-EEE-!!!
[15:55] <bb> may ask for help for my freezing grub in fresh 11.10 install?
[15:55] <Meowmeow> NAME OF PROGRAM!?
[15:55] <AirBender> Meowmeow: is probably running  a program which gathers information about the system and machine, to validate its license or whatever
[15:55] <AirBender> and wants to replace rel values by custom ones
[15:55] <AirBender> real*
[15:56] <Meowmeow> NNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE OOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PPPPPPPPPPPRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> kickeeeeu
[15:56] <oCean> Meowmeow: stop that
[15:56] <Meowmeow> please
[15:57] <ryannathans>  after changing cloned mac address to connect to a wifi network it never connects,  connects fine with the box left empty though... i keep getting deauthenticated according to dmesg
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> what happened?
[15:57] <pangolin> MonkeyDust: Commenting on spam, making random unhelpful comments and so on are not acceptable or welcome in #ubuntu.
[15:58] <pangolin> Please read those guidelines ubottu linked you to familiarize once again with the rules.
[15:59] <liher> hola
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> pangolin  ? i was analyzing the guys problem
[15:59] <liher> alguien sabe si se pueden quitar los paneles en ubuntu 11.10 y dejar solo un dock?
[15:59] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, lets move on
[15:59] <smulcahy> so no known issues with 11.10 grub so?
[16:00] <pangolin> !es | liher
[16:00] <smulcahy> seems like its either not installing or not being picked up at boot-time
[16:02] <Jelou> Hello
[16:02] <dbugger> Hey guys. How could I disable the confirmation page in powermail?
[16:05] <edu-rocha23> Hello guys, i need help with ubuntu 10.04 lts installation
[16:05] <Jelou> In Avidemux, when i configure settings for Xvid codec, in "motion search" can't go above of 3 - Hight, instead of 6 - Ultra high. Does anybody know why? (ubuntu-lucid)
[16:05] <RiXtEr-home> Hey all, Is there a way to setup a network bridge inside of unity (specifically the Network Connections dialogue box) instead of /etc/network/interfaces.
[16:06] <RiXtEr-home> edu-rocha23, if you don't ask a question it won't get answered.
[16:06] <edu-rocha23> Im trying to install ubuntu 10.04lts 64-bit on my pc from an usb stick and the installation simply freezes after keyboard layout selection, i have no other usb components other than the mouse and the usb stick wich im booting the system connected...i dont know what to do alredy...can someone help me ?
[16:07] <pepp-elito> Hi I have some problems with driver resolution for nvidia, the drivers does not use edid info correctlly resulting in max resolution of 640x480. Could someone supply a step-by-step how to force nvidia/ubuntu to not use edid info and  show more resolutions in nvidia-settings. Have tried for days now...
[16:08] <Barbariandude> *starts headbanging* http://www.jonobacon.org/files/freesoftwaresong/jonobacon-freesoftwaresong2.ogg
[16:08] <edu-rocha23> Im trying to install ubuntu 10.04lts 64-bit on my pc from an usb stick and the installation simply freezes after keyboard layout selection, i have no other usb components other than the mouse and the usb stick wich im booting the system connected...i dont know what to do alredy...can someone help me ?
[16:08] <mugen> we are legions
[16:08] <bazhang> Barbariandude, dont paste that here
[16:08] <compdoc> its:  "we are legion"
[16:08] <bazhang> mugen, actual support question?
[16:09] <Barbariandude> bazhang, Fair enough. Just thought someone would appreciate it, I'll be quiet now
[16:09] <bazhang> edu-rocha23, how did you install it? unetbootin?
[16:09] <raven> 11.10 booting seems to spend a lot of time on "waiting for network configuration" - how to debug boot-process?
[16:09] <edu-rocha23> im actually running ubuntu from the usb stick right now
[16:10] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, is this a dual monitor setup?
[16:10] <bazhang> edu-rocha23, the part where you enter the user name?
[16:10] <edu-rocha23> i simply booted the system from the usb...im sorry, but im very new to the linux universe and my knowledge is somewhat limited. Its my 1st time experience with linux
[16:11] <edu-rocha23> i dont enter any user name, i select the language, it sets up the clock and then goes to the keyboard layout selection, after i press next, it simply hangs there forever
[16:11] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, no just a single monitor connected via a marantz nr1602 receiver using hdmi
[16:11] <bazhang> edu-rocha23, but as a live usb it works fine? no problems?
[16:11] <edu-rocha23> yes, no problems
[16:11] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[16:11] <bazhang> edu-rocha23, you did md5 the iso before "burning" to usb?
[16:11] <edu-rocha23> im actually running ubuntu from the usb now as i talk with you
[16:12] <edu-rocha23> yes, i cheked the hash, its perfetly fine
[16:12] <javier_> Hi! I have Atheros AR9287 Wireless and internet works very badly in ubuntu (not in windows). Extremelly low connection (but not always, sometimes it's just slow) and no internet at all other times. I've google it, but couldn't make it work. Someone knows how can I improve my connection? Thanks a lot
[16:12] <xgt001> hi, i need ubuntu font configuration , could you help me with a pastebin/pastie of your ~/.fonts.conf file?
[16:12] <RiXtEr-home> edu-rocha23, it has something to do with your motherboard i think, I had an issue like that but can't for the life of me remember how I fixed it.
[16:13] <edu-rocha23> my mobo ?? geez....guess i wont be able to do anything about then...im gonna have to try to install de 11.10 then
[16:13] <RiXtEr-home> xgt001, I don't have a .fonts.conf file, I have a .fontconfig directory
[16:14] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, i will. will take some time.. using different computer as i have such low res on the ubuntu one
[16:14] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, alright
[16:14] <u235sentinel> edu-rocha23. Just noticed the thread...  perhaps the mobo needs to be flashed to the latest firmware.  I've run across problems like that and was able to fix it with a firmware update
[16:15] <edu-rocha23> hmmm, thx for the tip u235sentinel. I`ll reboot as windows and try do download a firmware update ! Thx for the tip !
[16:15] <RiXtEr-home> edu-rocha23, I might have added acpi=off and noapic to the bootup options (i just can't remember for sure) :(
[16:15] <u235sentinel> edu-rocha23. hope it helps.
[16:15] <edu-rocha23> acpi off...hmmm
[16:15] <edu-rocha23> ill see something about that
[16:15] <edu-rocha23> thx guys, ill come back to tell u if it worked or not
[16:17] <HyperJapan> LjL: Back
[16:20] <jeeves_moss> where does bind9 log to?
[16:21] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, pastebin.com/Mmnw4yE6
[16:21] <quatchi> hi all
[16:21] <javier_> on this website I've found Marko's answer which I would like to try, but can't follow the instructions to fix my problem. Someone could help me knowing my ubuntu and kernel version? http://askubuntu.com/questions/58704/how-do-i-get-an-atheros-ar9285-working
[16:23] <HyperJapan> javier_: Your ubuntu and kernel versions are in the System Monitor in GNOME/Unity
[16:23] <bastidrazor> javier_: lsb_release -d  for the Ubuntu version and   uname -r   for kernel version
[16:23] <HyperJapan> javier_: And what bastidrazor said
[16:24] <javier_> HyperJapan, bastidrazor thanks. I found it know (didn't see the space in the command in askubuntu
[16:24] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, did you see my paste?
[16:25] <javier_> If I download that compat-wireless Linux modules... from Ubuntu's software center, I'll still have to compile it?
[16:26] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, yes i seen it, just now stepped back in
[16:26] <RiXtEr-home> sorry
[16:26] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, what resolution are you wanting to display?
[16:26] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, np :) very thankful for any support i have spent 12 hours on this including fresh install..
[16:27] <pangolin> javier_: no
[16:27] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, also, what monitor do you have
[16:27] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, 1280x1024, and some standard 720p 1080p etc
[16:28] <javier_> HyperJapan, bastidrazor: also, beeing my ubuntu oneric and kernel 3.0.0.15-generic, I find there "linux-backports-modules-cw-3.1-3.0.0-15-server" and "linux-backports-modules-net-3.0.0-15-generic". Which one should I get?
[16:28] <bullgard6> '~$ pgrep -l wibb: 2319 gwibber-service; 2378 gwibber-service; 2379 gwibber-service'. How to properly restart the Gwibber GUI part in this situation? [GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[16:28] <pangolin> javier_: the -generic
[16:29] <javier_> pangolin, and uninstall the server?
[16:29] <pangolin> javier_: if you want to, but it does not hurt to leave it installed
[16:29] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, monitor7tv is a crapy viewsonic n3260w, connected via marantz nr1602 to an zotac nd-22 with nvidia ion. I have not had these problems before connecting via the marantz receiver
[16:30] <javier_> pangolin, and, as said in http://askubuntu.com/questions/58704/how-do-i-get-an-atheros-ar9285-working, follow the rest of Marko's answer and compile the thing?
[16:31] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, change this Option         "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0" to Option         "metamodes" "1280x1024 +0+0; 1920x1080 +0+0; 1280x720 +0+0"  should get you where you want to be
[16:31] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, after changing you will want to either restart or /etc/init.d/lightdm restart (restart X)
[16:31] <TwoD> I'd like to try the latest version of ntfs-3g in oneiric, but there doesn't seem to be a package available. Is there a way to try the package for precise pangolin?
[16:31] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, or if you are wanting to just check it
[16:32] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, thanks will try
[16:32] <RiXtEr-home> pepp-elito, startx would work as well (it will give useful errors)
[16:32] <TwoD> When attempting to install the latest ntfs-3g from the PPA, it just complains about fuse not being installed.
[16:32] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, now i have tried somethings like this before but no luck.. one minute..
[16:32] <pangolin> javier_: that is for a machine that has no internet connection. you can download the .deb packages you need and then move them to the machine you want to install on. .deb packages don't need to be compiled, just double click on them and ubuntu will take care of the rest.
[16:33] <javier_> aha
[16:33] <javier_> pangolin, thanks. Shall I restart my laptop to make it work?
[16:33] <pangolin> javier_: after you install the .deb packages yes
[16:34] <javier_> pangolin, ok, thanks!
[16:34] <calmpitbull> hello
[16:35] <RiXtEr-home> TwoD, do you need the 3g package, there are a few others out there, ntfsprogs might be what you need.
[16:35] <calmpitbull> im trying to change panel color in ubuntu 11.10 and i cant do it
[16:36] <bullgard6> calmpitbull: You better tell us your GUI too.
[16:36] <calmpitbull> bullgard6: unity
[16:36] <TwoD> RiXtEr-home: from what I can tell, ntfs-3g contains the FUSE integration in addition to what's in ntfsprogs.
[16:37] <bullgard6> calmpitbull: I am using Ubuntu 11.10 but I amnot using Unity. I cannot help you.
[16:37] <calmpitbull> damn
[16:38] <calmpitbull> im makeing my own theme and did every thing but i cant change panel colot
[16:38] <RiXtEr-home> TwoD, I just looked at mine, the ntfs-3g stuff is installed already... not sure what I have thats different
[16:38] <RiXtEr-home> Hey all, Is there a way to setup a network bridge inside of unity (specifically the Network Connections dialogue box) instead of /etc/network/interfaces.
[16:38] <dreamon__> Hello. using ubuntu on different pcs. my samsung.router shows pclist with all its pc names and ips. If I do a "ping dreamon-laptop". It brings an error. unknown host. If I start windows in Virtualbox (on same pc) do the same "ping dreamon-laptop" it shows acknowl. Same with all my ubuntu pcs. any idea?
[16:38] <bucaneiro> some day I will have my software available as a ubuntu package
[16:38] <n1c0-nuX> hello*
[16:39] <TwoD> RiXtEr-home: I have ntfs-3g 2011.4.12AR.4-2ubuntu3, I want ntfs-3g 2011.10.9AR.1-1ubuntu3
[16:40] <n1c0-nuX> I'm looking for the command to allow me to see the processes in background ! (sorry for my english, I'm french :-S )
[16:41] <clipzip> ps aux
[16:41] <TwoD> RiXtEr-home: There's talk about recent performance improvements when writing large files. I'm writing a 1TB file at approx 32Kb/s...
[16:41] <pepp-elito> RiXtEr-home, sorry to say after restart i still dont have more resolutions in nvidia-settings
[16:41] <mugen> como uso tork
[16:41] <TwoD> n1c0-nuX: "ps -A" or "top" or "htop"
[16:41] <ssta> that's a huge file.  Why so big?
[16:41] <pangolin> !es | mugen
[16:42] <TwoD> ssta: HDD image
[16:42] <n1c0-nuX> Ok thanks everyone !
[16:42] <ssta> TwoD: not worth splitting the file up?  Will make life simpler if you can
[16:43] <TwoD> ssta: that'd make the image useless
[16:43] <mugen> gracias
[16:43] <ssta> depends what you want it for
[16:43] <mugen> el ingles es una mierda
[16:43] <francisco> HOla
[16:43] <ssta> if it's for a backup then you just restore the chunks.  Unless you want to actually mount it, there's no real need to store it in one file usuallyu
[16:43] <mugen> ola
[16:43] <Guest63972> Alguien de Chile o qie hable español por aqui
[16:43] <mugen> yo
[16:44] <Guest63972> Hola
[16:44] <mugen> sabes votar paginas web
[16:44] <bucaneiro> no espanol
[16:44] <Guest63972> si
[16:44] <TwoD> ssta: it's a clone of an HDD with a few broken sectors, I intend to mount it to extract files once ddrescue has completed.
[16:44] <Guest63972> que ip vamos?
[16:44] <mugen> enseñame
[16:44] <ssta> Guest63972: try #ubuntu-es
[16:44] <Guest63972> jajaja
[16:44] <Guest63972> ok
[16:44] <mugen> algun tutorial
[16:44] <oCean> mugen: english only, or /join #ubuntu-es
[16:44] <Guest63972> es facil, pero aqui me enrredo
[16:44] <Guest63972> nos echan amigo
[16:44] <Guest63972> dame tu msn
[16:44] <ssta> TwoD: ah, fair enough then.
[16:44] <mugen> we are legions, we are free talk
[16:45] <bucaneiro> no msn here
[16:45] <mugen> claro
[16:45] <mugen> mauricioturner@hotmail.com
[16:45] <xangua> Guest63972: mugen english only, please stop
[16:45] <mugen> what happend with spanish
[16:45] <jeeves_moss> how do I grep my entire drive looking for a string?
[16:45] <mugen> you are discriminator
[16:45] <bucaneiro> this is  valid question
[16:46] <bazhang> mugen, thats enough
[16:46] <Guest63972> amigo recien empece con irc, no entiendo nada
[16:46] <mugen> mueranse gringos culiaos
[16:46] <ssta> jeeves_moss: grep -r string /
[16:46] <TwoD> ssta: it started cloning at about 30MB/s, but dropped drastically after about 100GB was done. If things don't work out, I'll reformat the 2TB drive I'm writing to as Ext4 and start over.
[16:46] <jeeves_moss> ssta  thanks.  I can never remember
[16:47] <ssta> TwoD: good luck...I don't envy you
[16:47] <TwoD> ssta: I've been at this for a couple of weeks so I'm getting used to it by now heh
[16:48] <pangolin> mugen: Please /join #ubuntu-es if you want help in spanish
[16:48] <pip__> I'd like to know if I'd see any benefit from running 10.04 rather than 11.10 on an old Compaq TC1000 tablet.  Both would be mini installs plus  wm & a few packages.  It runs on a 1GHz transmeta Crusoe CPU.
[16:48] <bucaneiro> Crusoe was a good idea...
[16:48] <pip__> Just to add: it's working ok now so maybe if it's not broken I shouldn't fix it...
[16:49] <pip__> pen & touch aren't woking they'd just be a bonus
[16:51] <Myrtti> Guest63972: just english.
[16:52] <DexterF> hi
[16:52] <DexterF> I'd like to install 11.10 on a laptop with a broken optical drive - any other options?
[16:52] <auronandace> !usb | DexterF
[16:52] <adrian> polak ?
[16:53] <bazhang> DexterF, how old
[16:53] <carlos> oi
[16:53] <pangolin> !polish
[16:53] <adrian> halo
[16:53] <bazhang> adrian, #ubuntu-pl
[16:53] <carlos> quem ta ai
[16:53] <pangolin> !br
[16:53] <DexterF> bazhang: thinkpad r51, 6 years i guess. will have to check if it bbtos usb at all.
[16:53] <DexterF> *boots
[16:54] <bazhang> DexterF, if not you could possibly use wubi; is there any os on it presently?
[16:54] <DexterF> bazhang: yeah, a 10.04 that hardly does anyhting but crash to busybox after I tried upgrading to 12.04alpha :D
[16:55] <auronandace> DexterF: your r51 should boot usb, my t40 does
[16:55] <bazhang> DexterF, the 10.04 still works?
[16:55] <DexterF> auronandace: ah, then ill go for the usb option...
[16:56] <DexterF> bazhang: not really. took a beating on the upgrade. ill just install 11.10 over /
[16:56] <bazhang> DexterF, I'd check the usb option as auronandace suggests, I have the r60e not much older and it works a treat from usb
[16:56] <DexterF> can oen
[16:57] <DexterF> whoops. can one use a usb disk? i dont have a stick around
[16:57] <bazhang> unetbootin would be one method
[16:57] <bazhang> external usb hdd?
[16:57] <DexterF> uh huh
[16:57] <bazhang> install from where though
[16:58] <DexterF> pardon?
[16:58] <bazhang> the external already has the OS on it?
[16:58] <DexterF> I'd liek to use a usb hdd as install medium as the optical is broken, but the installation is suppossed to be in the r51's interneal disk
[16:58] <DexterF> bazhang: no it hasnt. empty
[17:01] <DexterF> whoah, scuse my typing... arms bent round that laptop :}
[17:01] <pangolin> DexterF: should work the same as installing from a usb stick but I believe that unetbootin will format the entire drive so if you have any data on that external hdd it will be lost
[17:03] <DexterF> pangolin: that's ok. under win last time unetbootin wouldn't accept the hdd as flash but  gues ill just feed it the dev name
[17:03] <pangolin> DexterF: with the 11.10 iso you can dd it
[17:04] <auronandace> DexterF: if you already have grub2 installed another option is to boot the iso from grub2
[17:04] <DexterF> mmh... not sure, could be legacy. ill check on that.
[17:04] <DexterF> pangolin: dd where?
[17:05] <pangolin> DexterF:  dd if=/11.10.iso of=/externall/hdd - or are you doing this in windows?
[17:05] <pangolin> don't think windows has dd :/
[17:07] <DexterF> pangolin: nah, 10.10 on the machine I trype from. just dd, huh? too easy, ill give it a shot :)
[17:08] <pangolin> starting with 11.10 iirc you can dd, maybe it was starting from 11.04 not sure, but it works with the 11.10 iso
[17:12] <PrinceKapHot> Hi there ! I'm trying to create a folder in a folder that belongs to my users group, but I get a "permission denied" error.. ?
[17:12] <HyperJapan> Brb
[17:13] <nyancattt> what could be the problem when using the updtare manager to update , even after download and update
[17:14] <nyancattt> the next when you start the update manager again it ask to downlad the same thing again
[17:15] <Hilikus> any good CLI script to convert flac to ogg?
[17:16] <CaptainKnots> hello
[17:16] <HyperJapan> LjL: I managed to fix my issue, although it was a rather crude and dangerous method. I just removed any details of the package from my /var/lib/dpkg/status file and rebooted.
[17:16] <francisco_> Hello
[17:16] <francisco_> Someone speak spanish?
[17:16] <HyperJapan> francisco_: Hello!
[17:16] <pepp-elito> Hi I have some problems with driver resolution for nvidia, the drivers does not use edid info correctlly resulting in max resolution of 640x480. Could someone supply a step-by-step how to force nvidia/ubuntu to not use edid info and  show more resolutions in nvidia-settings. Have tried for days now...
[17:17] <CaptainKnots> can anyone tell me how to put 'build-essential' for 10.04 on a USB drive? I have to take it to a friend to install his wireless card since his building only offers wireless internet
[17:17] <oCean> !es | francisco_
[17:17] <HyperJapan> francisco_: I'm afraid my spanish is limited to Ola comistda and un cerveza perfavor
[17:17] <pangolin> CaptainKnots: download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[17:18] <CaptainKnots> HyperJapan: s/un/grande/
[17:18] <francisco_> hello
[17:18] <HyperJapan> CaptainKnots: What?
[17:18] <francisco_> Someone speak spanish?
[17:18] <CaptainKnots> francisco_: asi asi
[17:19] <francisco_> Jajaja
[17:19] <pangolin> francisco_: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[17:19] <HyperJapan> francisco_: Join the #ubuntu-es channel
[17:19] <ts2> Hilikus: install ffmpeg, then "ffmpeg -i some.flac -acodec libvorbis some.ogg"
[17:19] <aries> After installing a clean install of 11.1 my computer doesn't detect the audio controller only the hdmi nvidia audio controller
[17:20] <HyperJapan> !es | francisco_
[17:21] <francisco_> Hola hola hola
[17:22] <CaptainKnots> thanks oCean
[17:24] <generated> when I try to boot into ubuntu, it says "can't write disk full press any key", but is frozen
[17:25] <Diamondcite> Disk full?
[17:25] <Diamondcite> Did it used to work?
[17:25] <generated> yes. shortly before, it went readonly while ubuntu was on and running fine
[17:25] <ssta> you may need to boot from a rescue CD and delete some files to make space
[17:26] <generated> I was able to mount it in windows to dump all of my important files
[17:26] <Diamondcite> Is this an SSD drive or a normal magnetic hard drive?
[17:26] <generated> but I was unable to mount it for reading
[17:26] <generated> either in windows
[17:26] <generated> or through booting into a command line
[17:27] <generated> I would get a large stream of errors when I tried to mount -t ext4 .....
[17:27] <ssta> "errors"?
[17:27] <ssta> could you be any more specific?
[17:29] <generated> yes, at the top it would say something about the journal, and then there would be a blur of repeated error messages - something about failing to write. I don't have them handy at the moment
[17:29] <generated> I'm able to plug a usb cord into the disk, so I'm purportedly able to mount it to this current system
[17:30] <bluenemo> when i invoke ubiquity --automatic, where does the .seed file has to be? can i give a path to it as some kind of argument? please help me i'm desperate :)
[17:30] <ssta> sounds to me like the filesystem is corrupt, but without seeing the actual errors I couldn't be sure
[17:30] <ssta> tried to fsck it?
[17:31] <sKew> hi all
[17:31] <generated> the filesystem is apparently entirely readable through windows
[17:31] <generated> yes, amusingly, fsck generates this huge stream of messages, just as mount does
[17:31] <exalt> hello, after updating my mother's system, it has this lockups
[17:31] <exalt> how can i fix this ?
[17:31] <maZed_> dumb question, i just put ubuntu on my usb stick, booted up just fine, on the desktop of ubuntu it says, install ubuntu 11.10, do i run this?
[17:31] <generated> (this is all through the command-line boot disk)
[17:32] <pangolin> maZed_: if you want to install it to the hard drive, yes.
[17:32] <generated> exalt: you can be much more specific
[17:32] <maZed_> ahh ok, the hdd is crashed on this net book
[17:32] <generated> anyway, at the moment, I have essentially a usb drive that I need to mount
[17:32] <Guest5762> Can some one pls Ban PooBuck he is auto MSG'ing new connectet users whit a Crapy ass MSG
[17:32] <Guest5762> G-line him pls
[17:33] <exalt> generated: well without any warning the mouse is unmovable but my keyboard still reacts, thats how im now able to type
[17:33] <maZed_> any ops in the channel? PooBuck just sent me a untasteful message..
[17:33] <generated> when I attempt to mount it through nautilus, I get nothing
[17:33] <exalt> by irssi in a tty
[17:33] <DexterF> pangolin: ah, dd to disk worked indeed. nice. thanks :)
[17:33] <pangolin> DexterF: glad i could help
[17:34] <generated> when I try to "safely remove drive", I get the popup "unable to stop n GB Hard Disk Daemon is inhibited"
[17:34] <piercedwater> does anyone know how i can rsync by file modification date?
[17:34] <sKew^_-> pangolin, Thanks, wanna know what he wass saying? ;P
[17:35] <MK`> how do I check a disk for errors?
[17:35] <pangolin> sKew^_-: nope I got it, thanks.
[17:35] <pangolin> !fsck | MK`
[17:35] <sKew^_-> pangolin, okok, NO THANK YOU! ;)
[17:36] <generated> how can I mount a usb drive through the terminal?
[17:36] <MK`> does that work for ntfs, pangolin?
[17:36] <pangolin> MK`: no, see ##windows for help with ntfs
[17:36] <generated> MK`: read the man file, at the bottom there's a "see also"
[17:36] <MK`> ok, thanks
[17:36] <NimeshNeema> !patience
[17:36] <kwrigh01> @seek manual
[17:40] <kau> hello everybody!!
[17:40] <kau> I accidentally removed the .cabal folder...
[17:40] <kau> Do you know what to do?
[17:41] <DexterF> kau: there are unerase tools for ext3, i think. make sure you dont write any more to the disk. boot a rescu system.
[17:41] <DexterF> kau: with xfs you're hosed tho
[17:42] <kau> i use ext3
[17:42] <kau> but I think it's too late :)
[17:42] <kau> I just want to reinstall cabal & packages
[17:43] <troubled> hola o/ Quick Q: is there a reason why none of the ubuntu iso's for i386 desktop have jigdo files? :(
[17:44] <ssta> kau: deleting .cabal probably didn't remove the cabal program
[17:44] <kau> if I unregister every package and reinstall, it should work?
[17:44] <DexterF> kau: if you just rm'ed the .cabal folder inhome you only deleted settings and such. just start the program.
[17:44] <fede> my notebook don't connect wifi :(
[17:44] <kau> ssta: no cabal works
[17:44] <generated> I'm getting the following errors when I try to mount a usb'd hard drive: http://pastebin.com/H5tiGJep
[17:45] <generated> do any of them look familiar, or, which ones should I attempt to search?
[17:46] <ssta> troubled: probably because jigdo is complex and the powers at canonical didn't feel it matched the current target audience? </cynical>  In fact the precise daily images DO have jidgo files...
[17:46] <kau> DexterF: when running cabal install on my own program, it's complaining that files are missing in the dependencies (which I can understand)
[17:46] <DexterF> generated: can you try a different usb port?
[17:46] <DexterF> generated: and try without -t ext4, maybe it really isnt ext4 and nees to be auto detected
[17:46] <troubled> ssta: so complex that every other iso image does have it for every release of ubuntu? :)
[17:46] <maZed_> where could i find the firmware at for my dell mini? dells website just has windows drivers
[17:47] <troubled> just seems to be i386 desktop only that is missing them
[17:47] <DexterF> kau: well, then purging the package and reinstallign might help indeed
[17:47] <LjL> HyperJapan: uhm, i was thinking it would be better to tweak the prerm script and remove the culprit lines...
[17:47] <generated> DexterF: sure. Highly unlikely that it's the usb port, since the disk is having problems (became read-only, failed to boot giving "full", was mountable readonly in windows...)
[17:47] <wildc4rd> Just a quickie, I am running a Windows XP VM on my Ubuntu box, is there any way I can filter/manage the network trafic to and from the VM?
[17:47] <ssta> troubled: maybe it's just an oversight... There are jigdo files for alternate, and server, just not for desktop
[17:47] <propokr> .nick BamBamPRO
[17:48] <troubled> ssta: ya, saw the alternate iso jigdo and was considering it. thought I would bring it up out of curiosity and just in case, like you say, it was an oversight
[17:48] <generated> I'm pretty sure it's ext4, since this is what some command told me it was
[17:49] <ssta> troubled: personally I like my cynical idea better :)
[17:49] <generated> but I'm trying to mount it now on a different usb port. there's a long delay at the moment, like last time
[17:49] <troubled> ssta: :)
[17:50] <propokr> Hello guys. I wanna sync my BlackBerry device on Ubuntu: But I cant find a Desktop Manager version for Linux. How I can do it?
[17:51] <ssta> troubled: ah...according to a post by Kamion, it's because the desktop image was moved to hybrid images rather than plain iso to make them easy to put onto USB
[17:51] <DexterF> generated: you tried mounting it as ext4, how could windows access ext4?
[17:51] <troubled> ssta: tell me what you think of this definition of irony: Having a scratched i386 desktop iso that is only bad for 2 or 3 files that you want to repair via jidgo only to find out that is the exact iso that is missing jidgo :D
[17:51] <generated> I get exactly the same errors as in http://pastebin.com/H5tiGJep , except on sd 10:0:0:0, and the last line is missing
[17:52] <generated> DexterF: unsure - it was readonly, though, and trying to make it write gave me unsupported extension messages.
[17:52] <troubled> ssta: tyvm for looking into it though. makes more sense when you put it that way I suppose
[17:52] <DexterF> generated: most likely because windows cant read ext4
[17:52] <Pancakez> generated, maybe try mounting it as ext2, readonly?
[17:52] <DexterF> (or any other ext for that matter)
[17:52] <DexterF> good idea
[17:52] <Karmaon> Strange, why does ubuntu automaticly deselects text for me?
[17:53] <generated> DexterF: at the moment, doing a "what sort of fs is this" command, as well as the current error stream (865] EXT4-fs (sdf1): error loadin) gives me ext4
[17:53] <ssta> troubled: well, I'd have preferred if someone had fixed jigdo to cope too...it's a very useful tool (well, was more so when I didn't have a 50M pipe, but still useful now)
[17:53] <Karmaon> I couldn't highlight anything without it being deselected.
[17:53] <generated> DexterF: windows was able to read, and I was able to save all of my files
[17:53] <generated> Pancakez: alright. any specific way to mount it readonly?
[17:54] <DexterF> generated: then it's not ext4. leave out the -t ext4 or try -t ntfs-3g or -t vfat
[17:54] <Pancakez> generated, can't remember, probably doesn't matter really
[17:54] <troubled> ssta: ya, a shame more people don't use it. it is definetly a very nice tool all around. although I just noticed the zsync option. never tried it, but it does sound like its capable of similar feats (assuming I spend the time to dd the scratched iso back to a file etc)
[17:54] <generated> DexterF: it is 100% an ext filesystem. it hosts my main ubuntu system, and had to be loaded using specific ext3 drivers for windows
[17:55] <DexterF> generated: did you install ext drivers on said windows?
[17:55] <generated> I did, yes
[17:55] <ssta> troubled: well, getting a little offtopic now, but I can dl an iso in like 2 minutes, so I guess it becomes less useful at that point
[17:55] <generated> numerous, in attempts to get it to write (so that I could delete some files, to try to overcome the disk full boot errors)
[17:55] <troubled> ssta: true, but 4mbit dsl != 50mbit cable :)
[17:55] <Pancakez> maybe I'm out of date, but I think those windows ext drivers actually mount it as ext2, which doesn't have journaling.  Could be the problem
[17:56] <ssta> true
[17:56] <troubled> ssta: anyways, download is about done now. thanks for the help and the polite conversation. take care o/ :)
[17:56] <generated> Pancakez: that's probably correct. they gave me "unsupported feature flag" errors when I tried to mount them writable
[17:56] <ssta> troubled: good luck :)
[17:56] <troubled> thx :)
[17:57] <generated> but at the moment, I'm just trying to mount it on this current ubuntu system through the usb
[17:57] <Pancakez> generated, did mounting it as ext2 not work?
[17:57] <generated> readonly or not. windows was able to mount readonly, so the idea is I should be able to
[17:57] <generated> Pancakez: it's currently mounting. there's some delay...
[17:58] <mugen> hola
[17:58] <mugen> necesito hackear paginas alguien sabe?
[17:58] <Myrtti> mugen: English please
[17:59] <mugen> no se ingles
[17:59] <operatorx> 1
[17:59] <generated> mounting it using -t ext2 -r  produces EXT2-fs (sdf1): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (244) ... among unimportant others
[17:59] <acovrig> I just installed kubuntu (am in a recovery console now) and am getting grub err 17 on boot...
[17:59] <phaedra> !es | mugen
[17:59] <mugen> no se ingles
[17:59] <bullgard6> !es | mugen
[17:59] <mugen> y no me interesa aprender
[18:00] <maZed_> how can i install ubuntu to this usb stick? it seems as if i make any changes and reboot, it goes back to the default image?
[18:00] <mugen> por que no se pueden hablar dos idiomas aca
[18:00] <maZed_> ie, i deleted the Install Ubuntu icon from the desktop, rebooted and it is back..
[18:00] <mugen> linux es libre. libre de idiomas no discriminen
[18:00] <auronandace> !usb | maZed_
[18:00] <Dreadtower> Hello :)
[18:00] <acovrig> !grub
[18:00] <rodrigo> somebody knows if there is a channel for xubuntu?
[18:00] <bullgard6> mugen ¡Que ruego!
[18:00] <maZed_> thanks
[18:01] <Dreadtower> Has anyone used Virtual Box from ubuntu with a guest Windows 7 running
[18:01] <acovrig> !grub2
[18:01] <generated> so it does seem to be ext4. but of course, when I try to mount it, I get the messages here: http://pastebin.com/H5tiGJep
[18:01] <auronandace> Dreadtower: yes
[18:01] <Dreadtower> I'm trying to set this up and it is asking for my hard drive device driver
[18:01] <mugen> no pueden pensar asi que les pasa, ba en contra de todo lo que el software libre promulga
[18:01] <generated> I'm not sure which of these I should try searching, and all that
[18:01] <Dreadtower> Great auronandace
[18:01] <acovrig> mugen, escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[18:02] <mugen> en esa sala no hay nadie
[18:02] <mugen> todos entran a aca
[18:02] <auronandace> Dreadtower: it never asked me for any drivers
[18:02] <mugen> quien me ayuda a votar una pagina web
[18:02] <mugen> de una pequeña empresa que trata mal a las personas
[18:03] <Pancakez> generated, when you tried to mount it as ext2 it gave similar errors?
[18:04] <generated> no, it produced EXT2-fs (sdf1): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (244)
[18:05] <ilovedasimps> so my mic doesn't work in skype, put pulse audio detects it wtf else can i do?
[18:06] <Karmaon> Does anybody else have the problem of not being able to select text in the terminal? It deselects immediately.
[18:06] <ilovedasimps> nobody's gonna help me here either
[18:07] <auronandace> ilovedasimps: you've barely waited a minute
[18:07] <sKew^_-> ilovedasimps, have you changed the outline? in skype?
[18:08] <ilovedasimps> all it says is PulseAudio server (local
[18:08] <Pancakez> generated, I'm not sure what else you can try, sorry
[18:09] <generated> when I try mount -t ext4 -r, it gives me a different set of errors, including: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6
[18:11] <Jackneill> http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1940259_460s.jpg
[18:12] <rana__>  hi, my sistem now opensuse, i want to make a live ubuntu live pendirve, which software i could use?
[18:12] <ssta> dd
[18:12] <pangolin> rana__: unetbottin or dd
[18:12] <epod> rana__: unetbootin
[18:13] <Karmaon> So no one here has my problem?
[18:14] <Puma1337> Karmaon, it might be copying the text you selected, have you tried pasting after doing that?
[18:15] <rana__> unetbootin not worked for me properly
[18:15] <Tgonza> 11.10 s video detecting but not displaying on an intel 965gm graphics card I read the bug with no solve thought I would try here
[18:15] <bluenemo> when i run the ubiquity installer from a live cd system (not from boot), how can i tell the installer where a preseed file is / or where do i have to put the .seed file that it finds it automaticly? i cant boot directly into installation as i have to run several scripts before that for which i need a fully working system
[18:18] <generated> I'm getting: fsck.ext4 for device /dev/sdf1 exited with signal 11.
[18:18] <generated> what else can I do to repair this file system?
[18:19] <ganimede> i need an opensource program in c/cpp for wave recording from a microphone, under ubuntu. can someone help me?
[18:19] <tripelb> hello! for Xubuntu - for an older dell laptop, do I want the desktop or the alternate release (lucid longterm)
[18:20] <mang0> I think I'm going crazy. I've added a ppa for a program, but I can't seem to find a way to add the actuall program itself O.o I tried doin sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install appname, but it didn't work. It's all on launchpad, but I can't seem to download the .deb?
[18:20] <auronandace> tripelb: desktop, unless you want to install via ncurses
[18:20] <Web> is it possible to install the adobe master collection on wine under ubuntu
[18:20] <Web> :s
[18:20] <Seveas> generated, oooh, that looks like it's properly hosed. You say it was mountable under windows, I'd say back up and replace
[18:20] <bluenemo> or when i start ubiquity --automatic, where does it look for the .seed file?
[18:20] <auronandace> Web: better check the appdb
[18:20] <Web> whats appdb
[18:20] <auronandace> !appdb | Web
[18:21] <cyborg_> join #backtrack-linux
[18:21] <cyborg_> join /backtrack-linux
[18:21] <assasaint> je connais rien a irc  help?
[18:21] <Seveas> mang0, look at the _Packages file in /var/lib/apt/lists for that ppa and see if it's in there at all
[18:21] <bluenemo> cyborg_, you want /join #backtrack-linux. and this chan is invite only
[18:21] <Seveas> !fr | assasaint
[18:21] <mang0> Seveas: Okay.
[18:21] <generated> Seveas: I backed up as soon as I was able to mount. In what sense hosed? (it went read only, unbootable due to "disk full", but as I said mountable)
[18:22] <Seveas> generated, hmm, ok I must have missed some of your messages then. Try this: sudo mount -o remount,rw /path/to/mountpoint
[18:22] <Seveas> and then deleting some files
[18:23] <cyborg_> bluenemo:i need to remove the welcome screen in bt5 which show the default root password,can u help me?
[18:23] <mang0> Seveas: Ah. The ppa isn't there! I used sudo add-apt-repository ppa:/blahblahbal is that right?
[18:24] <generated> it's not currently mounted, but it was the main host filesystem (and it went readonly)
[18:24] <bluenemo> cyborg_, no i dont use backtrack sry
[18:24] <Seveas> mang0, ppa:blahblah -- no /
[18:25] <generated> I think I may have tried that message before I attempted to simply reboot (which turned out impossible)... I don't recall what it returned
[18:25] <generated> perhaps something to do with permissions
[18:25] <Seveas> generated, try it again :)
[18:26] <generated> the device isn't currently mounted (it's plugged in as a usb) so I don't know the mountpoint - I'm on a different system
[18:27] <Web> Adobe and other games really need to support ubuntu ffs :<
[18:28] <mang0> Seveas: I just went to software sources and tried to add the ppa, and when I ran sudo apt-get update it said that it had failed to update the ppa I'd tried to add....why might this be?
[18:28] <underione> Hi. Ubuntu cant mount my Samsung Galaxy S2. Why?
[18:29] <ssta> it mounts mine just fine
[18:29] <ssta> are you getting an error?
[18:29] <underione> do you just plug in?
[18:29] <underione> nou, nothing happens
[18:29] <underione> *np
[18:29] <underione> *no
[18:30] <ssta> yes, I just plug in and it asks me what I want to do
[18:30] <mang0> Tried a different USB port?
[18:31] <underione> mang0, yes, same thing
[18:31] <mang0> Hm
 tripelb: desktop, unless you want to install via ncurses --- (looked it up) nope. Thanks.  Do you know will xubuntu handle wireless on a Dell laptop (older, 504 MB RAM, works on Windows - when Windows works)
[18:32] <ssta> does lsusb show it?  Mine shows as: Bus 001 Device 010: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd
[18:32] <underione> it does
[18:32] <nova_hg> i wanna install grub & i untar it but when i enter the ./configure it says: bison is not found & it cant find the make file
[18:32] <nova_hg> what should i do?
[18:32] <auronandace> tripelb: what wireless? (it should work)
[18:32] <kau> DexterF: OK unregistering everything and reinstall solved the problem (as usual with cabal :)
[18:32] <ssta> underione: any errors in /var/log/syslog when you plug it in?
[18:33] <auronandace> tripelb: though you may want to try lxde with just that much ram
[18:33] <kau> DexterF: OK unregistering everything and reinstall solved the problem (as usual with cabal :)
[18:33] <underione> should I cat it?
[18:33] <ssta> underione: tail -10 /var/log/syslog|pastebinit
[18:33] <mang0> nova_hg: Install bison!
[18:33] <ssta> underione: you may need to install pastebinit
[18:33] <mang0> !bison
[18:33] <mang0> darn.
[18:33] <underione> k
[18:34] <trism> !info bison | mang0
[18:34] <tripelb> auronandace, thanks. -- I looked up xubuntu and lubuntu and it said 256 for X and 113 for L. So I chose one. -- It's for "friend" who is difficult. So It's my curiosity. She likes drama in her life.
[18:34] <underione> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812137/
[18:35] <mang0> trism: thanks
[18:35] <mang0> !info bison > nova_hg
[18:35] <lorran> alguem br?
[18:35] <mang0> *sigh*
[18:36] <tripelb> auronandace, This is interesting. "The Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM at install time."  http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[18:36] <tripelb> auronandace, This is interesting. "The Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM at install time."  http://www.xubuntu.org/get oops-- now I see " but it is strongly recommended to have at least 512 MB RAM."
[18:37] <saberjr> just did an 4 updates ubuntu 11.10 when i restarted wnet black screen and cursor static, tried to boot form live cd, nothing?
[18:37] <underione> ssta, you there?
[18:38] <undriedsea> When creating a SW RAID4 using mdadm, is it possible to specify which disk should be the parity disk?
[18:38] <ssta> underione: hmm, not enough output there.  ttyACM0 is for pretending your phone is a modem (sort of).  Doesn't say anything about the sotrage
[18:40] <ssta> underione: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812143/ is what I get when I connect mine.  Is there a line like that in yours, and does it have any related error lines around it?
[18:41] <generated> fsck gives me signal 11, what else can I do to repair a filesystem?
[18:41] <underione> ssta, ok, i solved: i had to able usb storage from PHONE, thanks
[18:41] <LjL> generated: what filesystem?
[18:42] <ssta> generated: seriously?  fsck should NOT be segfaulting!
[18:42] <generated> LjL: ext4 (certainly an ext, in any case)
[18:42] <ssta> generated: do you have a known-good filesystem to try fsk on?
[18:43] <generated> it's my main drive on another computer, went read-only, then couldn't boot "no space", mountable in windows!, mount in ubuntu produces http://pastebin.com/H5tiGJep
[18:43] <ssta> if fsck is segfaulting when asked to check a drive that's either a bigtime bug in fsck, or a hardware fault
[18:43] <ssta> generated: looks like a dead drive to me
[18:43] <generated> ssta: yes... but it's currently mounted
[18:44] <LjL> generated: to me to. it says I/O error. that usually means bad drive.
[18:44] <generated> ssta: it reads just fine in windows (using ext2 drivers)
[18:44] <ssta> hmm
[18:44] <LjL> generated: well, ext2 drivers don't try to read the journal
[18:44] <LjL> generated: have you tried mounting it *as* ext2?
[18:44] <LjL> (read-only, please)
[18:45] <generated> yep. with -r -t ext2 (and ext3) gives me  EXT2-fs (sdf1): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (244)
[18:45] <ssta> even if there's a hardware issue in the drive, fsck shouldn't segfault imo.  Not helpful to you of course.
[18:46] <LjL> generated: have you run smartctl to see if the drive is faulty?
[18:46] <ssta> generated: imo, get the data you care about it off in any way you can (on windows if you have to), and then reformat it (personally I'd bin it, but I'm paranoid about HD failures)
[18:46] <generated> I haven't - do you have a suggested usage?
[18:47] <LjL> generated: sudo smartctl -A /dev/sdf, pastebin the output
[18:48] <Shambhala> hello
[18:48] <ssta> there's a gui tool gsmartctl that might be easier to use too
[18:48] <generated> ssta: thankfully I was able to get all my data off when I mounted, but if if the drive is broken, my main computer will be unusable for the next while (it's a laptop drive)
[18:50] <ssta> generated: my take is usually: hard drives are cheap, losing data I care about can be *expensive*.  As soon as a drive shows any hint of failure, it gets binned and replaced because that's cheaper than risking failure.  Your mileage may vary though
[18:50] <generated> LjL: installing the package now. do I want sdf, or sdf1?
[18:50] <HyperJapan> On Ubuntu 10.04, is there much of a performance difference between the stock 2.6.32 kernel and something a bit later? (2.6.35/38/3.0?)
[18:50] <DexterF> how can I check if home is encrypted? I wanted to try that, then remembered that I wanted to keep the exiting home and unchecked "format" in the installer. do I have a crypted/unencrypted mish mash?
[18:50] <LjL> generated: sdf, smartctl doesn't operate on partitions
[18:51] <LjL> HyperJapan: i recommend sticking with the kernel that came with your Ubuntu release.
[18:51] <generated> ssta: I agree, but I can't replace, so I'd prefer paranoid levels of backup on a failing drive while I look for a new one to being unable to use the laptop at all
[18:51] <ssta> generated: fair enough :)
[18:51] <sandbaad> fg
[18:51] <sandbaad> fg
[18:52] <thomedy859> okay im on the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo and ists not working
[18:52] <HyperJapan> LjL: Thanks
[18:52] <thomedy859> when i run the wpa_supplicant command i get invalid argument
[18:54] <Guest92084> list
[18:54] <generated> http://pastebin.com/c8L8t29U
[18:55] <generated> err, that seems to be for /dev/sda
[18:55] <Guest92084> list
[18:55] <HyperJapan> System update tells me there is no updates available, yet I am using an out of date kernel, as I had issues with the new one earlier for Lucid (2.6.32-37), mostly because the update process was interuppted. Anyway I can get the update to come back through without searching for the packages in Synaptic?
[18:55] <LjL> !list | Guest92084
[18:56] <generated> what is the command to list the current disks?
[18:56] <LjL> generated: i was going to say, it seems in not-ideal conditions but not broken either :P
[18:56] <ssta> generated: it was reported as an error on sfd, so I am guessing that sdf is the one
[18:56] <ssta> s/sfd/sdf/
[18:56] <LjL> generated: "lshw -C disk" sghould work
[18:56] <generated> I plugged it in to a different usb slot
[18:57] <Guest92084> list
[18:57] <Guest92084> buonasera
[18:57] <pangolin> !it
[18:57] <LjL> Guest92084: stop it with the "list"
[18:58] <generated> I simply get /dev/sdf: Unsupported USB bridge [0x152d:0x0602 (0x100)]
[18:58] <LjL> generated: ah, maybe it won't work then. :\
[18:58] <generated> what's the issue?
[18:59] <LjL> generated: not sure but seems your USB drive doesn't quite talk a standard enough protocol for SMART to work
[18:59] <generated> ah. that makes sense, since it's a usb wire plugged into the back of a laptop ssd drive
[18:59] <DexterF> Guest92084: this is no warez channel. go to dalnet.
[19:00] <slicknick5181> does ubuntu 10.10 support wireless during install?
[19:00] <cheese1756> slicknick5181, Why are you installing 10.10?
[19:00] <cheese1756> And not 11.10?
[19:00] <cheese1756> I know 11.10 does, not sure about 10.10
[19:00] <DexterF> 11.10 does, just did that couple minutes back... doesn't answer the question tho, I admit
[19:01] <generated> other than smartctl and fsck (which gives signal 11), what else can I do to repair or check this drive?
[19:01] <cheese1756> I think parted might do something, generated
[19:01] <slicknick5181> cheese1756: I absolutely hate the changes in 11.10 :/ reminds me of windows and mac
[19:01] <cheese1756> slicknick5181, Use Xubuntu
[19:01] <generated> cheese1756: suggesed usage?
[19:01] <DexterF> slicknick5181: use xubuntu like me OR: trinity desktop (kde3+)
[19:01] <LjL> generated: i'm not sure how parted would help tbh
[19:01] <cheese1756> generated, No idea, honestly. Never used it for that. Check the man pages
[19:01] <preman> helo
[19:02] <preman> how are u
[19:02] <cheese1756> Hi preman
[19:02] <preman> hay cheese
[19:02] <slicknick5181> cheese1756: I'm trying to start an LTSP server for testing of machines and such.. I was under the impression I would be limited on xubuntu
[19:02] <preman> cheese burger
[19:02] <cheese1756> slicknick5181, I just installed the normal Ubuntu install then did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:02] <LjL> !ot | preman
[19:03] <cheese1756> You still have the command line :)
[19:03] <generated> I've opened gparted. gives a bunch of nice information, but analysis seems limited to (I'd guess) fsck
[19:03] <preman> ya i have many command line
[19:03] <preman> netstat -at
[19:04] <generated> to the disk's credit, all partitions are detected, though that's not surprising since I managed to mount it read-only under windows ext2 drivers
[19:04] <slicknick5181> cheese1756: How would that effect my ltsp install
[19:04] <cheese1756> slicknick5181, You can do everything from the command line
[19:04] <cheese1756> So Xubuntu wouldn't limit you
[19:04] <ozeer> noob cherche #aide : où y a-t-il des salons francophones sympas ?
[19:04] <LjL> generated: to be honest i doubt you'll be able to mount this disk
[19:04] <LjL> !fr | ozeer
[19:04] <cheese1756> Xubuntu wouldn't really affect anything, except you might be using less RAM
[19:04] <LjL> generated: i'm really not aware of other tools than fsck
[19:04] <bahamas> hello. the sounds is not working when trying to play something with a media file, but it works in the browser. any idea how I can troubleshoot this?
[19:04] <slicknick5181> I would prefer a GUI for testing machines
[19:05] <bahamas> s/sounds/sound/
[19:05] <cheese1756> Xubuntu should be quite good, then
[19:05] <cheese1756> It's like GNOME, but more lightweight
[19:05] <generated> LjL: I was able to at the very least mount readonly under windows - but then why isn't ubuntu able to?
[19:05] <cheese1756> Still GTK based
[19:05] <slicknick5181> OK cool Thanks :)
[19:05] <cheese1756> No problem
[19:05] <LjL> generated: i'm still thinking it's because Windows manages to mount it as ext2 and thus skip the journal... while apparently, Linux refuses to mount as ext2 because it sees it's not really
[19:05] <propokr> Hello.. Guys there are a channel for support in spanish?
[19:05] <bahamas> the sounds played at computer startup also can't be heared
[19:06] <bahamas> !es | propokr
[19:06] <Erealz> what the fastest xwindows manager go!
[19:07] <cheese1756> XFCE
[19:07] <LjL> Erealz: no polls
[19:08] <generated> LjL: the error I'm getting for -t ext2 -r (EXT2-fs (sdf1): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (244)) is very similar to what I got trying to mount it readwrite under windows
[19:09] <generated> it's strange that I'm unable to force a mount...
[19:09] <thomedy859> im sorry to but in again bu ti really need help... no googling has helped me man pages either
[19:09] <bahamas> anyone?
[19:10] <thomedy859> i cant figure out my wpa_supplicant
[19:10] <Erealz> what a supplicant/
[19:10] <Erealz> ?
[19:10] <thomedy859> i have followed ubuntuforum no good
[19:10] <Erealz> what you trying to do?
[19:10] <thomedy859> i have followed help.ubuntu also no good
[19:11] <Erealz> thomedy859
[19:11] <thomedy859> i have my wireless and it works everywhere but in my home... im only staying here cuz my family and i just moved into town so until we find a place we with family
[19:11] <cmanns> can the gparted/gpart on ubuntu be used to fix GPT partieioned disk that got mesed up
[19:12] <thomedy859> that being said i have no access to the modem for ip or anything i do believe however since i can connect everywhere but here it is wpa_supplicant
[19:12] <cmanns> I tried the find filesystems utility in gparted but its still running since last night on the usb 2.0 500gb external
[19:12] <thomedy859> but i have never done that and truthbetold it intimidate dme at first now it just irritates me..
[19:12] <khamer> I installed a i386 package on my amd64 machine, and now I can't install the amd64 version because it thinkgs the i386 version still is, any help?
[19:13] <milito> sera
[19:13] <Erealz> oviously your network-manager i working
[19:13] <milito> !list
[19:13] <thomedy859> i have my /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf  file set up but the different forums say to set it up differently so id ont know if it is right
[19:13] <thomedy859> yeah my network manager is working i can scan for the networks with iwlist scan and they show also they are available on the network manager gui
[19:13] <khamer> I removed the package with dpkg, but it still thinks its installed
[19:13] <Night-hacks> why /var/log/dmesg doesn't have time column as in syslog ?
[19:13] <ppqwerqq23e2> hi, why is ulimit -n not change after i set /etc/security/limits.conf nofile to 65536?
[19:13] <Pseudoephedrine> How do i ZIP a folder that i have on my desktop?
[19:14] <Erealz> i you can i connect everywere else
[19:14] <Erealz> i suspect it the router/access point
[19:14] <khamer> oh, ha, it was still installed via apt-get, and dpkg just didn't know
[19:14] <milito> !list
[19:15] <ppqwerqq23e2> i add '<username> hard nofile 65536' and '<username> soft nofile 65536' ulimit not change
[19:15] <simone3334> !list
[19:15] <thomedy859> wne i run wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf i get errors
[19:15] <thomedy859> if you are recommending router/access points wouldn't that be the wpa
[19:15] <ppqwerqq23e2> some plz help
[19:15] <Erealz> no could be the router config has some ristrictions on it
[19:16] <linux-uni> ciao
[19:16] <Erealz> hell could be set to just give only 1 or 2 ip out on the network
[19:16] <Erealz> just dosnt make sense you can connnect everywere else except at your fams crib.
[19:16] <thomedy859> context... i can connect on with my phone... i have connected before but i moved up to 11.1
[19:16] <thomedy859> now i cant
[19:17] <thomedy859> unfortunately i cant work from my phone
[19:17] <Erealz> 11.1 sucks dunky nuts
[19:17] <Erealz> stick with longterm support
[19:17] <thomedy859> im assuming thats unpleasent
[19:17] <Erealz> im still 10.10
[19:17] <thomedy859> i had longterm support and then all of a sudden no network i couldn't figure out why. at all
[19:18] <thomedy859> and in tryiung to figure it out i made it worse
[19:18] <Erealz> reinstall
[19:18] <Erealz> your better off
[19:18] <Erealz> long term is always better
[19:18] <thomedy859> theres no way im done reinstalling... in california before i moved here i tried 11.1, 11.4, 10.4... and 10.4 was where i stuck to for until last month or so
[19:19] <Erealz> well go back to long term support
[19:19] <thomedy859> okay thank you anyway....
[19:19] <thomedy859> ill figure it out... im so tired
[19:19] <Erealz> anyways check the router and make sure you have it configured
[19:20] <sKew^_-> thomedy859, what network card u got?
[19:20] <sKew^_-> broadcom?
[19:20] <thomedy859> atheros
[19:20] <HyperJapan> System update tells me there is no updates available, yet I am using an out of date kernel, as I had issues with the new one earlier for Lucid (2.6.32-37), mostly because the update process was interuppted. Anyway I can get the update to come back through without searching for the packages in Synaptic?
[19:20] <thomedy859> i found taht with lshw
[19:20] <thomedy859> is that the answer to the right questoin
[19:20] <thomedy859> athk5
[19:20] <Erealz> im just saying iv never ever had to edit config files unless im patching the driver for packet injection
[19:21] <thomedy859> i honestly wish it was that easy for me... but there is a contextual level of complexity unknown to this conversation taht im unwilling to traverse
[19:21] <sKew^_-> thomedy859, kk, i see, well i only got a guid for Broadcom if you got it, its not me who maked it.... i wass AndyCC all props to him!!!
[19:22] <simone3334> torrents!
[19:22] <thomedy859> i went to help.ubuntu and i went to ubuntuforum and they are similar but both dont get me there
[19:22] <bburhans> simone3334: not here.
[19:22] <thomedy859> one says i can find my dirver with wpa_supplicant -h but -h takes me to the help
[19:22] <thomedy859> and the other one doesn't get me there at all
[19:23] <thomedy859> i was able to do some educated guess tweaking and when i run the wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 i get errors from tsomewhere
[19:23] <thomedy859> i dont want to have to go out evertime i want to work
[19:23] <studioxps> Mornin Ububtuians
[19:24] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Evening :P
[19:24] <studioxps> or Ububtians
[19:24] <sKew^_-> thomedy859, well have u tryed to download the driver and all packages to you HDD then unstall the drivers and install em again?
[19:24] <studioxps> HyperJapan how are you today?
[19:24] <sKew^_-> i dont know if its gonna work
[19:24] <thomedy859> when i got the 11.1 i update/upgraded cli
[19:24] <HyperJapan> studioxps: I am not bad, yourself?
[19:24] <thomedy859> thats how i get any network at all
[19:25] <studioxps> For a cold, windy, rainy day here in otherwise warm and sunny Las Vegas, not to shabby :)
[19:25] <SimeonK> hi, i have a windows xp installation on drive C:\ and a windows 7 installation on drive E:\ Is it safe to format drive E:\ so I can install Ubuntu on it (do i need to edit some boot files or something)?
[19:25] <sKew^_-> hmm kk i dont know what to do then, etc google ""networkcard" ubuntu install guid"
[19:25] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Good to here :)
[19:25] <HyperJapan> hear*
[19:25] <ts2> SimeonK: as long as you have nothing on the partition you want to keep, it's safe just to let the installer format it
[19:26] <studioxps> hear* ;)
[19:26] <studioxps> lol
[19:26] <studioxps> :P
[19:26] <SimeonK> ok thanks
[19:26] <sKew^_-> SimeonK, you will need a bootloader, but ubuntu is gonna install one for you so u cane dual/multi boot
[19:26] <studioxps> Im installing Ubuntu and have a hell of a time with my partions
[19:26] <d3eniz> Whats the problem?
[19:27] <studioxps> hopefully I have straightened it out
[19:27] <studioxps> <----- Learning mode :)
[19:27] <d3eniz> :) awesome!
[19:28] <studioxps> if this doesnt work I plan on formatting. installing win7 then ubuntu then re arranging my partitions
[19:28] <x_chr> I seem to be unable to download ubuntu using torrents. Looking for help getting Transmission working. I am "connected" to 60 peers, but downloading/uploading to/from 0.
[19:28] <studioxps> adding, tweaking etc
[19:29] <SimeonK> so will my pc boot using windows xp's bootloader or ubuntu's bootloader?
[19:29] <studioxps> x_chr have you considered http://www.ubuntu.com/download ?
[19:30] <x_chr> studioxps: That's where I got the .torrent file.
[19:31] <studioxps> Ive always gotten *.iso files there
[19:31] <studioxps> unless its wubi
[19:31] <x_chr> studioxps: Full version: Name: ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:32] <studioxps> I dont use transmission for my ubuntu stuff
[19:32] <HyperJapan> If you compile your own kernel, is there actually a performance difference or is it a placebo effect?
[19:32] <studioxps> but I am pretty new to all this
[19:32] <dmtarmey> hello i would like to update from 10.10 to 12.04 can i update in stead of installing over
[19:33] <studioxps> 12.04?
[19:33] <allu2> dmtarmey: i'd think its better to upgrade first to 11.04 or 11.10
[19:33]  * studioxps scratches his head
[19:33] <dmtarmey> sorry iv got 11.10
[19:33] <HyperJapan> dmtarmey: You would have to update-managaer -d to 11.04 then to 11.10, then change your update settings to update to 12.04. Just reinstall.
[19:33]  * studioxps heads for the coffee pot
[19:34] <HyperJapan> dmtarmey: Change your update settings to Testing releases and do update-manager -d
[19:34] <studioxps> Hyper there is a 12.04?
[19:34] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Sounds like a plan
[19:34] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Is Alpha 1 out yet?
[19:34] <sKew^_-> SimeonK, you will use linux boot loader, Grub or lilo then u can multiboot
[19:34] <dmtarmey> can i set up a rolback like on suse
[19:35] <studioxps> I need to find a kid to come over and fixx this damn thing LOL
[19:35] <HyperJapan> dmtarmey: I don't believe so, If you wanted to roll back all you have to do is not format your partitions but install on top of the system (Not recommended)
[19:35] <mkquist> studioxps: must be in his universe...
[19:36] <studioxps> mkquist lol
[19:36] <studioxps> and my world is closing in on me
[19:36] <dmtarmey> is 12.04 stable enough yet
[19:36] <HyperJapan> dmtarmey: It's Alpha 1, so its not ment for every day use
[19:36] <studioxps> wow 12.04.... whoda think it ;)
[19:37] <dmtarmey> ok cheers maybe all wait a little longer
[19:37] <inet> one
[19:37] <studioxps> HyperJapan: any idea whe that might be released?
[19:38] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Alpha 1? Its out now
[19:38] <studioxps> HyperJapan: a regular release for us knuckle heads :P
[19:39] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Well final will be out april time (As in the name, 04)
[19:39] <studioxps> ahhhhh thats what that means .... see learn something new every day
[19:39] <HyperJapan> I'll be staying on 10.04 and other GNOME 2 distros for some time yet
[19:39] <studioxps> Ive been wondering why I need windows 7 when I already have windows 2000
[19:39] <HyperJapan> Then I'm going back to KDE
[19:40] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Driver support, software support, security, better DOS support :P
[19:40] <studioxps> Hyper it was a joke ;)
[19:40] <studioxps> lol
[19:41] <HyperJapan> studioxps: I know, thats why I put :P
[19:41]  * studioxps pours HyperJapan more coffee
[19:41] <studioxps> :P
[19:41]  * HyperJapan adds cream and slurps it
[19:41] <CPhoenix> Ewwwwwwwww
[19:41] <CPhoenix> Milk. Only milk
[19:41] <drworm> Very general question: if I'm using a recovery disk to copy files to an attached external hard drive as root, why would the permission to copy the files be denied?
[19:41] <DragonSlay> This is a Coffee Partieee..
[19:41] <HyperJapan> CPhoenix: You have a point, I ment whipped cream :P
[19:41] <drworm> I know there are *a million* answers.
[19:41] <drworm> I'm looking for ideas.
[19:42] <studioxps> Black baby.... black
[19:42] <drworm> Hint: The files may or may not be encrypted.
[19:42] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Too bitter
[19:42] <HyperJapan> studioxps: All though it smells nice xD
[19:42] <micahf> hi, my macbook keeps freezing with 11.1
[19:42] <micahf> 11.10*
[19:42] <CPhoenix> dragly: mounted as read only?
[19:42] <micahf> any ideas why i'd be getting random freezing?
[19:42] <HyperJapan> micahf: When does the machine freeze? Startup? Login?
[19:42] <micahf> i think it's the video card because music keeps playing
[19:42] <drworm> CPhoenix: I assume that was meant for me.
[19:42] <studioxps> Hyper you in the service over there
[19:43] <CPhoenix> drworm: Yeah, sorry
[19:43] <bazhang> !ot
[19:43] <drworm> CPhoenix: That's a good point, I didn't specify any mount options.
[19:43] <HyperJapan> studioxps: What?
[19:43] <micahf> HyperJapan: I haven't been able to narrow it down, it seem to happen pretty arbitrarily.  i look in the logs and can't find anything
[19:43] <drworm> CPhoenix: also don't know why I didn't think to do that...
[19:43] <studioxps> HyperJapan: Are you in Japan atm?
[19:43] <drworm> Any other thoughts, anyone?
[19:43] <micahf> HyperJapan: I was watching dmesg once when it happened and dmesg didn't change at all
[19:44] <HyperJapan> micahf: Have you installed any software that may be unstable and cause the system to freeze?
[19:44] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Nah, Japan is just epic though :P
[19:44] <studioxps> oh ok.... alright time to reboot my shiny new Ubuntu
[19:44] <micahf> HyperJapan, I could try going back to an older kernel
[19:44] <studioxps> wish me luck ;)
[19:44] <DragonSlay> micahf, processor could be in full use, or kernel crash .. just giving you hints
[19:44] <drworm> As I am away from the system from which I am trying to recover files, I'll go with the mount permissions approach and let you know how that goes later.
[19:44] <micahf> I think it might be the processor thing
[19:44] <HyperJapan> micahf: Thats one thing to do, I was having kernel issues myself earlier with freezing on boot
[19:45] <CPhoenix> drworm: good luck
[19:45] <micahf> there are some funny errors about paging in the dmesg
[19:45] <drworm> CPhoenix: Thanks for the tip :)
[19:45] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Good Luck
[19:45] <micahf> but not at the moment of crashing
[19:46] <HyperJapan> micahf: It could be many things, leave the question with us and I'm sure someone will have an answer :)
[19:47] <micahf> HyperJapan: i just installed Xubuntu and found that the freezes have been more occasional.  I'm wondering if it's something with compiz/compizconfig
[19:47] <HyperJapan> micahf: Could you pastebin the logs you were talking about?
[19:47] <micahf> HyperJapan, I'm trying to find them now
[19:47] <CPhoenix> Now anyone know why Parallels tools gets squished every time I update Ubuntu?
[19:48] <HyperJapan> micahf: It could be, have you tried using the propriatery video drivers? (If you havent already)
[19:48] <maujhsn> I have an mplayer install issue...."Help" http://pastebin.com/E5y7yQ63
[19:48] <LjL> maujhsn: output of "apt-cache policy mplayer"?
[19:49] <wildc4rd> running a Windows XP VM on my Ubuntu box, is there any way I can filter/manage the network traffic to and from the VM?
[19:50] <micahf> HyperJapan, let me try and track those down/see what i'm using now
[19:50] <HyperJapan> micahf: Ok
[19:50] <DragonSlay> wildc4rd, have you checked the network adapter settings
[19:51] <maujhsn> LJL I will give it a try and let you know how things work out!
[19:52] <DragonSlay> wildc4rd, try installing traffic control application in windowsXP .
[19:52] <micahf> HyperJapan, interesting, I didn't have the nvidia drivers installed but compiz still works.
[19:52] <DragonSlay> wildc4rd, wondershaper for ubuntu will also do,
[19:52] <micahf> HyperJapan, do the open source drivers now do compositing?
[19:53] <DragonSlay> wildc4rd, sudo apt-get install wondershaper
[19:53] <HyperJapan> micahf: On the ATi side, yes, I'm not sure about NVidia, but I believe so.
[19:53] <micahf> HyperJapan: wow, times change :D
[19:54] <micahf> HyperJapan: I had just assumed I was running the nvidia drivers because compiz worked, it's great to hear that
[19:54] <maujhsn> LJL  Check out this result:  "http://pastebin.com/9aJDfi0G"
[19:54] <HyperJapan> micahf: Sometimes the open source drivers though are buggy, they are for me on ATi
[19:55] <wildc4rd> cheers dragonslay, I'll try wondershaper, want to control the windows network abuse from within its host, lol
[19:55] <micahf> HyperJapan: one thing that's funny is when I'm booting, the start up screen suddenly goes black with crazy colorful noise spewed across
[19:55] <LjL> maujhsn: why do you have Medibuntu for Maverick enabled when you're actually running Lucid?
[19:55] <micahf> HyperJapan, that's why I'm suspecting there's a video issue
[19:55] <Myr> Greetings
[19:55] <DragonSlay> wildc4rd, good luck m8. :)
[19:55] <jwp121> Does anyone know when gnome-shell 3.4 is going to be released?
[19:56] <HyperJapan> micahf: That's what I would suspect, you could try the propriatery nvidia drivers (Additional drivers or jockey-gtk)
[19:56] <Myr> I have a question about Wubi
[19:56] <DragonSlay> Myr, ask. :)
[19:57] <reCAPTCHA> Hi, how can I get a keyboard buttons to function as mouse scroll up and mouse scroll down?
[19:57] <Myr> How can I mount a Wubi install in a new Windows installation? (The datapart of it I mean)
[19:58] <micahf> HyperJapan: well, i'm gonna reboot and try the nvidia driver, thanks a bunch for your help!
[19:58] <HyperJapan> micahf: No problem :)
[19:58] <maujhsn> LJL "Because I assumed that it would work for 10.04 as well!
[19:58] <micahf> HyperJapan: it's great to have people to talk you through a problem.  I could have tried asking some of the people at the coffee shop here but I don't know if they'd have been nearly as patient.
[19:58] <LjL> maujhsn: very wrong assumption. don't mess with your repositories. stick with the default/official ones unless you know what you're doing VERY well.
[19:59] <maujhsn> LJL What do I do know?
[19:59] <LjL> maujhsn: remove every instance of Medibuntu from /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ now, then issue "sudo apt-get update", then try again installing.
[19:59] <Myr> The reason why I need that is because my Motherboard passed away this weekend. Thus I will be upgrading my Computer and I doubt an old Ubuntu install will accept that
[19:59] <HyperJapan> micahf: Heh, just helping :)
[19:59] <maujhsn> LJL I will follow your instructions!
[20:00] <new2net> Hello, I am looking for some software that will tell me if a document is valid XML. I was thinking that because this is a common problem ubuntu may already have something installed to do it.
[20:00] <cjnodell> When I look at my photos by date in shotwell (using the side bar) I noticed that I have three entries for Janyary 14th. Wh is this? Can I make it just one entry for this date?
[20:00] <new2net> So my question, if you couldn't guess, is "Does it?"
[20:01] <mercury_> new2net, you can do this online:
[20:01] <mercury_> new2net: http://www.xmlvalidation.com/
[20:01] <LjL> new2net: i see "rxp" and "xmlstarlet"
[20:02] <DragonSlay> Myr, wait for some time, someone wil help you/
[20:02] <Myrtti> reCAPTCHA: like page up and page down do?
[20:02] <tim167> hi, my system hangs at the grub menu , when i press ENTER it complains about errors on disk, if I choose fix or recovery mode, it seems to fix some things, but then on reboot it's the same, any suggestions?
[20:03] <Myr> What errors?
[20:03] <LjL> tim167: run smartctl from a live cd to see if your drive is faulty
[20:03] <tim167> Myr, hold on, trying again, i'll see what it says...
[20:03] <reCAPTCHA> Myrtti: for example, if I use the scroll wheel right now, I can scroll through this conversation up and down... page up and page down don't do anything.
[20:03] <new2net> mercury_, thank you :) .  LjL, thank you also I will look at those
[20:03] <mercury_> tim167:  you could spend the afternoon digging into the errors, but it would probably be faster to boot a usb disk, and check your disks from the livecd OS.
[20:03] <reCAPTCHA> Myrtti: okay.. so they do.. but in very large increments.
[20:04] <Shambhala> hello
[20:04] <reCAPTCHA> Myrtti: Here's the deal, I want to keymap mousescroll to buttons on my joypad..
[20:05] <mercury_> anyone know what channel I should join to find out how to boot the liveCD from pxe, the way that RIP linux does?
[20:05] <Myr> Apparently someone just told me that the Wubi Ubuntu filesystem can be mounted as a loopback device, is that true?
[20:05] <popey> Myr: sounds plausible
[20:06] <DragonSlay> !who
[20:06] <LjL> mercury_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet might help
[20:06] <LjL> DragonSlay: ?
[20:06] <maujhsn> LjL "Worked like a charm"! THANKS I am going to add you to my friends list!
[20:06] <DragonSlay> LjL, that's for Myr
[20:07] <redrocket> have a python script that when run outputs to notify-osd. Not a "hello kitty" type of message but a script that accesses an api and displays some info
[20:07] <redrocket> anyone know how?
[20:07] <Myr> Hmm?
[20:07] <redrocket> sorry my explanation is crappy. :(
[20:07] <Lirth> Anyone have some technical skill to create a custom clock? I'm trying to display decimal time.
[20:07] <Seveas> redrocket, open a text editor, write script, call script =)
[20:07] <bahamas> so, sound not working when trying to play something with the media player but it works in browser. anyone have an idea why?
[20:08] <redrocket> Seveas, :(
[20:08] <yzhd_> I have been using ubuntu for a while with VM, it was very laggy so I switched to Wubi.. It heated up so fast so I had no other choice that uninstalling it. Is there anyway I can install ubuntu on my computer without formatting my hardware ?
[20:08] <DragonSlay> !who | Myr
[20:08] <tim167> Myr: it does boot when i choose "previous Linux versions"...strange
[20:09] <mercury_> LjL: well, I already have a pxe server I use to install ubuntu with.  works great.  What I need is a network troubleshooter. I need to boot ubuntu from the network as a liveCD, instead of from a flash disk
[20:09] <Myr> yzhd_: You can uninstall a Wubi install using the Windows software menu or deleting the Wubi folder + bootrecord part
[20:09] <yzhd_> Myr, that was not my question ;)
[20:09] <yzhd_> Is there anyway I install ubuntu without formatting my hard drive ?
[20:09] <Seveas> redrocket, https://github.com/seveas/hacks/blob/master/p2000 is something I once wrote. It fetches a webpage, parses it and displays notifications. Work from there :)
[20:09] <auronandace> yzhd_: not really, you are going to need to install it to a partition if you want a native permanent install
[20:09] <mercury_> LjL: RIP linux does this, but ubuntu doesn't. I'm trying to find out where I should go to find someone who knows how to make it do that.
[20:09] <redrocket> Seveas, ty  :)
[20:10] <yzhd_> @auronandace aahh, so I have no choice that formatting my hard drive to install ubuntu ? :/
[20:10] <auronandace> yzhd_: gparted is very easy to use to resize partitions
[20:10] <mercury_> is there a good channel to find anyone who know about ubuntu liveCD and pxe boot things?
[20:11] <sKew^_-> mercury_, i think this is a good # for asking about ubuntu^^
[20:11] <urlin2u> Lirth, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/xclock.1.html
[20:11] <Lirth> urlin2u: Thanks
[20:11] <mercury_> yzhd: install = format
[20:11] <DragonSlay> mercury_, #ubuntu-devel
[20:11] <urlin2u> Lirth, if oneiric http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/xclock.1.html no problem
[20:12] <Photon-Phoenix> I need to run the terminal command "alsactl restore" on startup, how would I go about doing that?
[20:12] <mercury_> yzhd: or, well, install = put somewhere on your computer, anyway
[20:12] <studioxps> is there a beginners guide for Ubuntu Dummies online or pdf file around?
[20:12] <auronandace> !manual | studioxps
[20:12] <sKew^_-> mercury_, send you a msg
[20:12] <Myr> mercury_:  How so, you could just install it by defragging a disk and then Gparting a part of it to a new partition right?
[20:12] <micahf> HyperJapan: the glitches at startup have disappeared
[20:12] <studioxps> THANKS!!
[20:12] <urlin2u> Lirth, you want to be careful on asking the same thing on multiple channels people will yell at youu.
[20:12] <studioxps> !manual
[20:12] <HyperJapan> micahf: Great! All we need to know now is if your freezing has stopped.
[20:13] <micahf> HyperJapan: yep, i'll keep an eye open
[20:13] <HyperJapan> micahf: You can let me know, but its good to here your glitches are gone anyway :)
[20:13] <studioxps> is 10.04 funtionally the same as 11.10?
[20:14] <rich> is rich
[20:14] <shadowman0> nice bro
[20:14] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Well 10.04 has a lot of stable software, 11.10 has unity and the latest kernel and software
[20:14] <studioxps> what is unity?
[20:14] <LjL> !unity
[20:14] <mercury_> myr: yes, gparted should let you move some existing paritions to make a new space,
[20:14] <ssta> it's the user interface made by fisher price
[20:14] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Are you new to Linux?
[20:14] <wildc4rd> lol
[20:15] <mercury_> myr: usually works fine, theoretically you could lose data moving a partition
[20:15] <studioxps> HyperJapan... Does it show?? ;)
[20:15] <wildc4rd> ssta, never a truer word said in jest
[20:15] <HyperJapan> studioxps: I thought you were just having a laugh with us! It's ok, we all start somewhere.
[20:16] <studioxps> Hyper... Ive been around computers for years.... but Linux is new to me
[20:16] <studioxps> at my age I dont catch on as fast as I used to :P
[20:16] <urlin2u> !pm | Lirth
[20:16] <HyperJapan> studioxps: Well it's good to have another user come over to learn something new!
[20:17] <auronandace> studioxps: unity is the default desktop environment in ubuntu
[20:17] <auronandace> studioxps: i prefer xfce
[20:17] <studioxps> HyperJapan: Thanks???? please keep or fingie off the /kick and ban buttons :P
[20:18] <HyperJapan> studioxps: I'm not an op anyway, so I can't ban you :P
[20:18] <DerpyHoovy> Hey guys. I just installed ubuntu using Wubi and now i'm stuck on grub> prompt. When I try to load the kernel it returns error: out of disk.
[20:18] <Photon-Phoenix> I need to run the terminal command "alsactl restore" on startup, how would I go about doing that? <-- My external amp isn't muted by default and I have to run the command manually every time Ubuntu reboots
[20:18] <studioxps> Hyper Exactly why I said it with such defience ;) ;)
[20:18] <LjL> Photon-Phoenix: you could put it in /etc/rc.local
[20:18] <superlou> I'm on Ubuntu 11.10, and occasionally launcher items don't have numbers when the "windows/ubuntu" key is held down.  Is this something anyone else is seeing?  I couldn't find a definited yes or no by searching
[20:19] <HyperJapan> studioxps: I didn't even read it like that!
[20:19] <mercury_> derpyhoovy:  error: out of disk?  is it actually out of disk?
[20:19] <studioxps> Hyper: Given enough time you will understand my quirky sense of humor :)
[20:19] <DerpyHoovy> It's on a 3TB hard drive, it shouldn't be out of disk space.
[20:19] <supertux> hello, how to share internet connection between android and ubuntu??
[20:20] <shadowman0> is ubuntu on a computer like a custom rom on an android? at first you're all "neato" but then after a while you just keep switching roms until you go back to the default
[20:20] <supertux> my network manager doesn't find android usb connection...
[20:20] <auronandace> studioxps: highlights in irc only work if you quote the whole nick
[20:20] <HyperJapan> shadowman0: Depends who you are really, Linux isnt for everyone
[20:20] <LjL> !tab | studioxps
[20:20] <Lirth> ulin2u: I looked at the Xclock page but it doesn't show a way to customize what I'm looking for. I want to display decimal time (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time)
[20:21] <urlin2u> Lirth, I wouldn't pm without asking, personally i rarely pm at all, and if I get one without being asked I wont even look at it, no biggie but a matter of respect for others on their wants.
[20:21] <studioxps> auroandace: so much to learn here :))... THANKS!!
[20:21] <Myr> shadowman0: Depends on the user and what the default OS was.
 is a really smart button.  I always thought it just made spaces.  wierd.
[20:21] <mercury_> :P
[20:22] <rana_>  hi, i have openSUSE system, is it possible to install UBUNTU without formet any existing partition as it can in Windows system.??
[20:22] <Lirth> urlin2u, sorry about that. I'm new here. Most of my Internet chat comes from MMOs where the rules are different.
[20:22] <studioxps> Life is so complicated until I have had my 3rd cup of coffee
[20:22] <Myr> rana_: You could install it as a virtualbox
[20:22] <rana_> Myr@ no i dont need it by virtual box.
[20:23] <crassus> Hi, how can I get Banshee to version 2.0.1 as is in the ppa I've added: https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[20:23] <LjL> rana_: if you want to replace SUSE, then you'd be well advised to format the SUSE partition. if you want to keep SUSE, then Ubuntu's installer can make space by shrinking the existing partitions without formatting them (but you should have backups)
[20:23] <crassus> I've sudo apt-get update'd and apt-get upgrade'd, but when I apt-get upgrade, apt says banshee has been held back
[20:23] <studioxps> HyperJapan, Is windows for anyone??
[20:23] <LjL> !ot
[20:23] <crassus> I've tried sudo apt-get -f upgrade to force it, but to no avail
[20:24] <rana_> no i dont want to replace opensuse
[20:24] <Photon-Phoenix> Ljl: thanks, other guides kept pointing me to /etc/init.d/rc.local and referred to the contents of the one in /etc/rc.local instead which confused me
[20:24] <DerpyHoovy> This isn't the first time I've had install problems.
[20:24] <HyperJapan> studioxps: No xD
[20:24] <|_ocke> anyone gotten driconf running in 11.04?
[20:24] <HyperJapan> studioxps: I guess thats why many of us are here :D
[20:25] <DerpyHoovy> Practically every install I've ever tried had major issues with grub.
[20:25] <rana_> i have tryed that by sinking the root partition of opensuse, after the result i got that my suse not working.
[20:25] <LjL> rana_: well the installer lets you manage your partitions as you see fit, resize them and everything. just, once again, you *should* have a backup in case things go wrong - resizing partitions is never a risk-free operation
[20:25] <Myr> Nothing ever is
[20:25] <mercury_> crassus:  have you done an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[20:26] <crassus> mercury_: Doesn't that upgrade the entire distro? I don't wanna upgrade from 10.04 Lucid.
[20:26] <LjL> crassus: no, it doesn't
[20:26] <crassus> I could be wrong though
[20:26] <crassus> What does dist-upgrade do?
[20:26] <mercury_> crassus:  what I'm told is, Apt-get dist-upgrade'ing also installs new packages brought in the chain of dependencies, whereas 'apt-get upgrade'ing only install newer versions of packages already installed"
[20:26] <LjL> crassus: it's like "upgrade" but tries to deal with conflicts in a smarter way, basically.
[20:27] <crassus> Ok, I'll try that
[20:27] <LjL> crassus: but remember PPAs are unsupported and could break everything, anyway ;)
[20:28] <wildc4rd> ok, stupid question, how do I change the default program for opening file types under Unity?
[20:28] <crassus> I trust banshee-team LjL :)
[20:28] <mercury_> there is a way to upgrade the whole distro, I've done it from synaptics before, I think
[20:28] <mercury_> sorry, previous was for :crassus:
[20:28] <DerpyHoovy> I've found absolutely no solutions on Google.
[20:28] <LjL> !default | wildc4rd, assuming this is still current
[20:28] <DerpyHoovy> The ones I did find didn't help at all.
[20:28]  * studioxps runs over and hugs Google
[20:29] <crassus> awesome, I have banshee 2.0.1 and can now sync my iPhone :D
[20:29] <mercury_> crassus:  yay!
[20:29] <crassus> thanks mercury_ and LjL
[20:29] <auronandace> !yay | crassus
[20:29] <auronandace> just missed him
[20:30] <mercury_> Derpyhoovy:  I don't know, there's a lot of things that it depends on I suppose ... grub1 or grub2?
[20:30] <mercury_> you've formatted gpt I suppose?
[20:30] <DerpyHoovy> grub2. Ubuntu 11.10.
[20:30] <wildc4rd> ta LjL, sorted
[20:30] <DerpyHoovy> no, my hardware isn't UEFI.
[20:30] <mercury_> Derpyhoovy:  hmm, you have a 3tb drive though?
[20:31] <DerpyHoovy> Yeah. I didn't exactly know they didn't work without UEFI before I bought it...
[20:31] <mercury_> derpyhoovy:  does grub try to install mbr?
[20:31] <bcbc2> DerpyHoovy: what's the result of "ls" from the grub prompt? it will list the drives/partitions it can see. it's not common to install on a gpt drive - not sure if that works
[20:31] <DerpyHoovy> I don't know how to tell from wubi.
[20:31] <DerpyHoovy> bcbc2: (memdisk) (loop0) (hd0) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[20:32] <nivyaj> hi- i'm new to ubuntu and need some help upgrading eclipse. I followed the directions- but there's no launcher. can someone help me
[20:32] <nivyaj> I followed these directions http://crlog.info/2011/06/30/upgrading-eclipse-on-ubuntu-from-3-5-to-3-7-indigo-works-for-other-versions-too/
[20:32] <nivyaj> but when I got to here, the file was empty. sudo gedit /usr/bin/eclipse
[20:32] <nivyaj> Replace old version name with the version you downloaded. E.g. If you downloaded Indigo and you have galileo installed
[20:32] <bogdan__> he?
[20:33] <bcbc2> DerpyHoovy: that looks ok. how about "ls (loop0)/boot"
[20:33] <DerpyHoovy> bcbc2: error: out of disk
[20:34] <mercury_> derpyhoovy:  huh, it kind of sounds like grub is looking for a partition that doesn't exists on the disk, ie, the drive geometry information is bad
[20:35] <LjL> which is not very surprising when using a >2TB drive on MBR, is it?
[20:35] <mercury_> derpyhoovy:  does it have the same problem if you were on a <2tb drive I wonder?
[20:35] <DerpyHoovy> Well, I would try it out but I don't have a spare drive.
[20:35] <mercury_> nivyaj: so first, did you already have eclipse installed before upgrading?
[20:35] <DerpyHoovy> I'm considering formatting GPT and using UEFI Duet to load Windows on it.
[20:35] <Lirth> I tried to install ubuntu on a separate computer. I want to keep windows on it also. When I ran the installer it gave me two options. I could either remove Windows (bad) or create partitions myself (dangerous). When I installed it on a different computer, I got a third option. It allowed me to use an automated partition creator. Any idea why it may have happened?
[20:36] <bcbc2> DerpyHoovy: that's where it loads the kernel from, so it explains thee problem. You should be able to partition a gpt disk very easily and do a normal dual boot - rather than Wubi.
[20:36] <DerpyHoovy> bcbc2: Yay. I had almost given up hope on ever having a working dual boot.
[20:37] <mercury_> nivyaj: from that page, you'll want eclipse installed already (it creates the links in ubuntu, like eclipse.desktop)
[20:37] <nivyaj> mercury_: i did, but i uninstalled it using the ubuntu remove application
[20:37] <nivyaj> mercury_: which in retrospect is what probably caused my problems....
[20:38] <mercury_> nivyaj:  ah, hmm, yeah, you'll want it still installed as per the page's directions, as it's using the links created from the installer to edit
[20:38] <mercury_> nivyaj: if you run "which eclipse" on the command line, you should get "/usr/bin/eclipse"
[20:38] <nivyaj> mercury_: so, i have indigio installed in my /usr/bin/eclipse
[20:39] <nivyaj> how can i add it to the launcher
[20:39] <mercury_> nivyaj: well, you could always create all the links yourself...
[20:40] <mercury_> nivyaj:  find a link, like firefox or something, in I think, /usr/share/applications ?
[20:40] <epod> How would I add Option "UseFastTLS" "off" to my xorg.conf given that I don't HAVE an xorg.conf?
[20:40] <mercury_> nivyaj: create a copy, rename it eclipse, edit it in gedit.  Change all the firefox versions, references, to the eclipse ones,
[20:41] <mercury_> epod:  create an xorg.conf - in the terminal:  xorg -configure, I think,
[20:41] <nivyaj> mercury_: i can do that.
[20:41] <nivyaj> mercury_: this file was empty gedit /usr/bin/eclipse
[20:41] <nivyaj> is that a problem?
[20:41] <draginx> How would I go about to make a small web script to use PAM as authentication?
[20:41] <mercury_> nivyaj:  yes, you;ll want to find the eclipse binary, and symlink to it from /usr/bin, so,
[20:42] <alexGla> hey, how to remove archive file from /etc directory sudo rm -r filename doesn`t work
[20:42] <mercury_> nivyaj: looks like maybe it was moved to your /usr/lib/eclipse folder?
[20:42] <propokr> I'm out.. for today. See on monday. Lets do it.
[20:42] <mercury_> epod: or if you're using nvidia: nvidia-xconfig
[20:43] <nivyaj> mercury_:  I'll check.
[20:43] <propokr> syslink must be runing on friday... see u..
[20:43] <mercury_> nivyaj:  if you find the eclipse executable, first check that running it works (ie, eclipse is working)
[20:44] <MJ94> What does it mean when someone says "I don't know my Kerberos password"?
[20:44] <mercury_> nivyaj:  then, symlink to it with "ln -s <location of exclipse executable> /usr/bin/eclipse
[20:44] <mercury_> MJ94:  it means they're using Kerberos authentication,
[20:44] <epod> mercury_: ty
[20:44] <MJ94> mercury_: for?
[20:45] <mercury_> MJ94:  logging into their desktop, usually,
[20:45] <MJ94> oh
[20:45] <mercury_> MJ94: typically, kerberos authenticaion is running on another server somewhere, and they're authenticating against it,
[20:45] <nivyaj> mercury_: what's symlinking?
[20:46] <MJ94> ah
[20:46] <mercury_> nivyaj:  it's a way to make one file look like it exists somewhere else, without copying the actual file
[20:46] <Kvaks> Is there a program for GNU/Linux that displays info about my hardware, like CPU-ID for Windows? (I want to know about my current RAM stick configuration without opening my case.)
[20:47] <zacarias> if something happens and you have to reinstall your system, is it best to have the whole system backed up (backing up all the "/ "directory contents) or backing up the home directory will do?
[20:47] <mercury_> nivyaj: when the OS looks for the file where you've symlinked it, it's basically being redirected to the actual location, more or less
[20:47] <nytek_> I'm trying to mount a MAC OS X external drive to ubuntu but im getting a wrong fs type or bad option error
[20:47] <nytek_> anybody have any ideas?
[20:48] <nytek_> I know the drive is good.
[20:48] <Kvaks> zacarias: back up /etc too, and grab a list of installed packages to batch-redownload after reinstall.
[20:48] <mercury_> zacarias:  most of your data lives in /home, lots of system configurations live in /etc, particular application data lives all over /
[20:48] <mercury_> nytek_: mac OS uses HFS+, gpt
[20:48] <nytek_> i installed hfsplus
[20:49] <nytek_> mercury_: but not gpt
[20:49] <zacarias> Kvaks: thanks
[20:49] <nytek_> mercury_: installing it now
[20:49] <zacarias> mercury_: thanks
[20:49] <nytek_> mercury_: no luck :'(
[20:49] <mercury_> nytek: ah, are you getting the error in mac os, or in ubuntu?
[20:49] <nytek_> ubuntu
[20:49] <mercury_> nytek: ah, ok, just a sec,
[20:50] <nytek_> mercury_: im using the command sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb2 /media/MacDrive/
[20:51] <mercury_> nytek: hmm, bad option sounds like mount doesn't understand for some reason,
[20:52] <mercury_> nytek: oh, what's output of sudo blkid?
[20:52] <nytek_> mercury_: one sec
[20:52] <nytek_> /dev/sda1: UUID="02dfc124-9316-4e22-a97e-2595cf9a4036" TYPE="ext4"
[20:52] <nytek_> /dev/sda5: UUID="91ef0d4f-fda9-4ba1-8aa3-e4eb84421846" TYPE="swap"
[20:53] <Wobbo> I have laptop "Asus 1215N (NVIDIA ION)" with "Ubuntu 11.04". By default, "nouveau" in "3D". Then I install Nvidia, unfortunately after I get only a black screen. It succeeds in "nouveau" to get back but only in "2D". How do I get "3D" werkent again?
[20:53] <nytek_> Wobbo: Boot up in terminal and do a sudo apt-get remove nividiaProgram you installed?
[20:54] <mercury_> nytek:  hmm, any errors in dmesg when trying to mount?
[20:54] <nytek_> mercury_: yes, one sec
[20:54] <mercury_> nytek:  blkid ought to be showing you the external drive, and it's 'type'
[20:54] <nytek_> [ 1157.194655] hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock
[20:54] <nytek_> mercury_: [ 1157.194655] hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock
[20:55] <shadowman0> ive been installing ubuntu on my windows xp for the past hour or so at 18 gb. is this normal?
[20:55] <shadowman0> its got an hour and a half left
[20:55] <nytek_> shadowman0: no
[20:55] <nytek_> mercury_: the partition is /dev/sdb2
[20:55] <nytek_> mercury_: ive tried mounting both
[20:56] <jbehling> what does it mean when it says "driver activated but not in use" in 11.04 hardware manager when it comes to the nvidia driver
[20:56] <jbehling> i want to use it, and i thought i was using it...
[20:56] <mercury_> jbehling: do you have onboard video?
[20:56] <jbehling> nope
[20:56] <Wobbo> nytek: I don't understand what you meen...
[20:56] <jbehling> pcie nvidia card
[20:57] <nytek_> Wobbo: there should be an option when you boot up to get to a terminal
[20:57] <nytek_> Wobbo: then run that command
[20:57] <mercury_> jbehling:  ok, you're only connected to the pcie, can you run the nvidia-settings program?
[20:58] <Night-hacks> i've installed string.h (C header files) how can i install implementations files ? (C files ).
[20:58] <_josh> hey, i kinda broke my ubuntu install by install some wifi driver from ubuntuforums... i can't boot into ubuntu anymore.  i'm booting off usb, anyone know how to chroot and make uninstall?
[20:58] <jbehling> yes
[20:58] <nancy---> hi, i have paid for a vps and i just got an invoice copy on my email. they are not giving me any details how to log iin. i payed by visa debit card. what should i do?
[20:58] <sln45> Is there a terminal command to show/hide the unity toolbar?
[20:58] <jbehling> mercury: yes, when i run nvidia-settings everything seems fine
[21:00] <jbehling> mercury_: also, I have no onboard video, just the pcie card
[21:00] <mercury_> jbehling:  hmm, if the driver's not actually in use, you'll fail trying to run something like 'glxgears'
[21:00] <Wobbo> nytek: I will lock around, thanks for now
[21:01] <jbehling> mercury_: installed and ran glx gears, it's very slow though
[21:01] <mercury_> nytek: I think maybe mount needs some more info or something:  I see something about a ufstype=44bsd option,
[21:02] <mercury_> nytek:  any subfolders in /dev/sdb2/... ?
[21:02] <nytek_> mercury_: how would i give it more imformation?
[21:02] <nytek_> mercury_: many
[21:02] <jbehling> mercury_: on the additional drivers screen i get the choice between "version current" and "version 173" there's a greenlight on version current if that means anything
[21:02] <_josh> i've tried using "chroot /mnt/sda5", then sudo make uninstall in the relevant directory, but it says it can't resolve host crunchbang (the host for my crunchbang install)
[21:02] <nytek_> mercury_: its my mac backup disk with all my data
[21:02] <_josh> and it can't open /lib/modules something or other
[21:02] <nytek_> mercury_: i dont have a mac anymore thoguh
[21:02] <nytek_> mercury_: :/
[21:03] <mercury_> _josh:, yes, you need to set up some other stuff before chroot,
[21:03] <_josh> mercury_, what do i need to set up?
[21:04] <mercury_> _josh:  hmm, I thik at least (sudo all these) mount -o bind /proc /(your-chroot)/proc
[21:04] <_josh> mercury_, before i chroot?
[21:05] <mercury_> _josh: yeah, also,
[21:05] <_josh> mercury_, lib/modules too, right?
[21:05] <rixter__> Hey all, Is there a way to setup a network bridge inside of unity (specifically the Network Connections dialogue box) instead of /etc/network/interfaces.
[21:05] <mercury_> _josh: mount -o bind /dev /(your-chroot)/dev , I think,
[21:06] <generated> if I'm trying to back up everything from a broken disk, is it enough to copy the home folder?
[21:06] <jbehling> mercury_: under xorg.conf my driver is "nvidia" so I'm guessing all is well?
[21:06] <Gentoo64> generated, that wont be everything
[21:06] <_josh> mercury_, what about /lib/modules?
[21:06] <Gentoo64> generated, home and etc and normally good
[21:06] <generated> Gentoo64: what will I be missing?
[21:06] <mercury_> jbehling:  that's really wierd.  maybe ubuntu's wrong - sounds like nvidia driver is activated, and being used?
[21:06] <Gentoo64> are*
[21:06] <generated> what's in etc?
[21:06] <Gentoo64> configs
[21:07] <Gentoo64> global ones
[21:07] <mercury_> _josh: you basically want to mount (whether -o bind or just mount) /proc, /tmpfs, /dev, that's probably all
[21:07] <generated> is there anything else I might be missing? I believe that I have my chrome history as part of home...
[21:07] <nancy---> how do i find a vps for  $10 /month        with root access. any ideas?
[21:07] <mercury_> _josh: then, finally, chroot /(your chroot), and check ifconfig
[21:07] <_josh> mercury_, it's saying things like "could not open dir, /lib/modules/2.6.39...."
[21:07] <bazhang> nancy---, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[21:07] <Gentoo64> generated, if youve never edited manually etc then you prob wont need to back it up
[21:08] <jbehling> mercury_: I think you're right, must be a bug in the gui
[21:08] <stavrosLinux> hello, I have a problem with automount, after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, it doesnt wrok
[21:08] <stavrosLinux> work
[21:09] <generated> etc contains settings, which might be slightly annoying to try to reconfigure, but no data, or anything substantial, correct?
[21:09] <mercury_> _josh: do you have a single / (root), or seperate partitions for anything?
[21:09] <_josh> mercury_, single root
[21:09] <rixter__> generated, etc has all the configuration files
[21:09] <Gentoo64> generated, its msotly configs, if youre gona reinstall then itll be regenerated
[21:09] <rixter__> generated, global configuration files
[21:09] <mercury_> generated: usually, correct.  most of the time.
[21:09] <generated> (given that I'm not obviously not familiar with etc, I probably haven't messed with it much myself, though I may have made minor changes)
[21:10] <mercury_> _josh: are you able to cd to /lib/modules.. ?
[21:10] <rixter__> generated, usually personal config files are in /home/username/.program
[21:10] <Gentoo64> generated, just backup /home and you can tweak the new /etc
[21:10] <mercury_> _josh: from the chroot?
[21:10] <_josh> mercury_, yes, but the dir it wants doesn't exist.  it wants /lib/modules/2.6.39-bpo.2-amd64
[21:10] <generated> alright. I've backed up home. When I reinstall, is it safe to simply dump the old home onto the new one?
[21:11] <_josh> mercury_, lib/modules after chroot contains: 2.6.38-11-generic  2.6.38-13-generic  2.6.38-8-generic
[21:11] <NQTropic> ?
[21:11] <Gentoo64> generated, yes, copy the files back as normal user though
[21:11] <generated> (also, I had to back it up onto an ntfs drive)
[21:11] <generated> will ntfs cause any problems?
[21:11] <ubuntu_> ok
[21:11] <Gentoo64> generated, ubuntu should read ntfs from the box
[21:12] <generated> in terms of destroyed metadata
[21:12] <Guest60298> im trying to install a program and getting this error, can someone help me? http://cl.ly/212r3I452m323I3m1F2E
[21:12] <rixter__> generated, yes it will lose permissions across copy's
[21:12] <Gentoo64> so it dont matter
[21:12] <ubuntu_> gadacie po polsku
[21:12] <ubuntu_> si
[21:12] <Gentoo64> generated, youll also lose symlinks but you might not have any
[21:12] <generated> ok. I'm not doing anything fancy with permissions - but the system itself does not rely on things in home having specific perms, correct?
[21:12] <ubuntu_> tu dire polacco
[21:12] <Gentoo64> generated, just copy the files back as normal user, and theyll be owned by your user
[21:12] <ubuntu_> yes
[21:12] <generated> Gentoo64: I have none in home
[21:12] <mercury_> nytek:  hmm, I've seen something like mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/sdb2 /(your folder)
[21:13] <generated> great
[21:13] <ubuntu_> yes
[21:13] <ubuntu_> yes
[21:13] <nytek_> mercury_: ill tru
[21:13] <nytek_> mercury_: try*
[21:13] <mercury_> nytek:  but I don't know why, I'd assume hfsplus to be the one you want,
[21:14] <nytek_> mercury_: no luck :(
[21:14] <nytek_> mercury_: thanks anyways
[21:14] <generated> what is the best way to install ubuntu via usb? I'd like to install the prior release, not the newest one, since I can't figure out how to get rid of unity...
[21:15] <Gentoo64> generated, just copy the iso with something like unetbootin and itll make the usb for you
[21:15] <mercury_> nytek:  you may need to file a bug report, actually ... the 'can't find hfs superblock' error is the useful info
[21:16] <mercury_> nytek:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/734883
[21:17] <bguth> I'm having trouble with an external drive that had the recycle virus. One of the directories is now empty but it's also showing 0 in the column that other folders show 32K when I use ls -lh on the parent directory. Is there a way to change that or is the directory lost?
[21:17] <callaghan> Today I got aware of a folder called ~/.thumbnails which I didn't know existed. Ubuntu, why, why don't you have a sensible setting what to store there, and, above all, HOW LONG! So this is a 10.04 machine that I set up with Alpha 2 back in the days and I've been using it ever since. 3 months ago I managed to get a girlfriend and she's using the machine nearly every day to clear up her...
[21:17] <callaghan> ...massive photo collection. Today she noticed that disc space was kinda low (only 40GB SSD) and decided to clean up. So she found .thumbnails, which was over 1GB in size, and in there she found thumbnails of every video, photo and whatever that was ever on or plugged into the system. EVER. Even nearly 2 year old thumbnails. As mentioned, the machine is old and I was single for a long time,...
[21:17] <callaghan> ...so I got a very enraged phone call because of what she found in there. So I called my friends who also use Ubuntu and they didn't know of this folder and checked and they were like "OMG thank you (rm *) (change setting so no thumbnails are generated)". I always hated thumbs.db in Windows but now I hate the gnome way even more. Isn't this the perfect way to spy on somebody (especially...
[21:17] <callaghan> ...guys)?!? Sorry it's so long but I'm in deeeep trouble now :(
[21:17] <FloodBot1> callaghan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <mercury_> _josh:  it sounds like apt thinks it needs files in a place they don't exist - you're trying to uninstall a package?
[21:19] <mercury_> _josh:  you may need to force removal in dpkg?
[21:19] <_josh> mercury_, yeah, it wasn't a package though, it's something i make installed
[21:19] <Myrtti> callaghan: Linux is perfect for multiuser environments where each user is given their own account...
[21:19] <_josh> mercury_, some wifi driver that's not letting me boot anymore
[21:19] <generated> how can I find the version of a ubuntu install that is on an external disk?
[21:19] <mercury_> _josh:  oh, well, you may be able to just delete the files that were installed.. if you know where they are,
[21:20] <mercury_> _josh: what was the program again?
[21:20] <_josh> mercury_, some wifi driver i found on ubuntuforums :/
[21:20] <_josh> mercury_, i have noc lue where they are
[21:20] <_josh> mercury_, am i SOL? :P
[21:20] <callaghan> Myrtti: you're right. I should have done that. And I will certainly do so in the future.
[21:20] <_josh> mercury_, or is there some "safe mode" i could boot into to uninstall?
[21:21] <kop> is bluetooth fundamentally broken in 10.04 ?
[21:21] <mercury_> _josh: not necessarily, there's 'safe mode', there' some recovery things you can try,
[21:21] <generated> how can I get a list of software / packages installed on a ubuntu system?
[21:21] <generated> (so that I may restore them later)
[21:21] <boylover> what's the best distro for encrypting child porn
[21:22] <mercury_> _josh: I think grub lets you press left shift when booting,
[21:22] <_josh> mercury_, what does that do?
[21:22] <boylover> what's the best distro for encrypting child porn
[21:22] <HyperJapan> boylover: ?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?
[21:22] <mercury_> _josh: supposed to let you into recovery mode,
[21:23] <_josh> ok, i'll try that out and let you know how it oges, thanks
[21:23] <mercury_> _josh: worst case, I think you can dpkg reconfigure all, but that's not always best,
[21:23] <mercury_> gotta go,
[21:24] <_josh> mercury_, what does dpkg reconfigure all do?
[21:24] <mercury_> _josh: dpkg-reconfigure -a ,
[21:25] <mercury_> _josh: forces you to reconfigure every package installed in the system.  takes a long, long time, usually.
[21:25] <mercury_> _josh: resets all your settings.  might break some things, possibly.
[21:25] <mercury_> _josh: there's usually better things to try first, it's not a go-to solution to anything,
[21:26] <_josh> mercury_, ok.  i'll try that "safe boot" thing first, any other suggestions for after that?
[21:26] <Guido1> Hello, I just have a short, urgend not Linux question
[21:26] <mercury_> _josh : first step is to try to figure out what's failing, and how to stop it.  check the startup scripts, things started by upstart,
[21:27] <_josh> mercury_, oogh, i can't just "undo" what i did?
[21:27] <Guido1> my computer goes somtimes off without any worning. what can be the reason? what can i do? bios?
[21:27] <mercury_> _josh: maybe - I'd also check the modules being loaded, if it's a driver, stuff is lsmod (modprobe)
[21:28] <mercury_> _josh: sorry, that was, lsmod wlll show you if maybe a driver's being loaded into the kernel, breaking things.
[21:28] <_josh> mercury_, that's probably it, given that i was trying to install a driver.  will lsmod show what the problematic driver is? and how do i remove it once i know?
[21:29] <Datalink> I'm having an interesting issue related to a program that's 32 bit on my 64 bit 11.10 install, is anyone here real good with sorting out library hell issues?
[21:29] <Gregor_The_Miner> Guidol, when does it shut off? Boot or during regular activity?
[21:29] <mercury_> _josh: hmm, if you can find out what driver it is (usually has a relevant name, driver make or model or 'wifi'), you'll want to either blacklist it, rmmod I think it only temporary,
[21:30] <_josh> mercury_, cool, rebooting and trying all of that
[21:30] <Datalink> (SLPlugin:13790): GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib32/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcairo.so': libcairo-gobject.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:30] <mercury_> _josh: rmmod <dirvername> removes it from the currently used modules, but there should be an option to completely remove a driver,
[21:30] <_josh> mercury_, i'll look into it, thanks! :)
[21:31] <bguth> when you run ls -l what does the size represent on a folder and can it be changed?
[21:31] <mercury_> _josh: np.  just don't remove drivers that the system needs legitamitely.
[21:32] <_josh> mercury_, haha, i'll try not to
[21:33] <Datalink> bguth, it can't be changed, I believe it's how large the directory needs to be on the filesystem
[21:33] <Datalink> don't quote me on why it's that size, why would you want to change it though?
[21:33] <spal> Is it possible for Ubuntu to mess up laptop fan settings?
[21:33] <bguth> Datalink: there are two different sizes, 32768 and 65536 so I don't think is uneditable
[21:34] <Datalink> is one a mountpoint?
[21:34] <bguth> Datalink: it's just another folder. There's a folder that has a 0 listed and I wanted to see if editing that would recover the folder contents
[21:34] <pippo1> CiAO
[21:35] <pippo1> !list
[21:35] <pippo1> !hot
[21:35] <callaghan> bguth: see http://superuser.com/questions/142893/why-is-the-size-of-a-directory-always-4096-bytes-in-unix top answer
[21:37] <bullgard6> What information is to be put in Banshee 2.2.1's prgram window  > Radio > Add a new Internet Radio Station > (Add a Radio Station) > Edit field »Originator of the Radio«?
[21:38] <Datalink> bguth, depending on filesystem there may be an undelete for it, but the act of installing an undelete may cause destruction of the data through overwrite since the inodes are flagged as free, however if the file disapeared as a result of filesystem error, then an fsck may recover it in lost+found
[21:38] <Datalink> an active GUI system makes it fairly hard to actually recover a deleted file though
[21:38] <lain_is_god> hi
[21:38] <pippo1> !list
[21:39] <pippo1> !hot
[21:39] <bguth> It's fine if it's lost. I'm just curious because it's behaving strangely on other OSs
[21:39] <stavrosLinux> hello, I have a problem with automount, after upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10, it doesnt work
[21:39] <pippo1> !dvd
[21:40] <guntbert> !askthebot | pippo1
[21:40] <mang0> !ssh > mang0
[21:40] <Deathcrush> #2600
[21:40] <Nobul> hittt, How can I hide ip on freenode please? xchat.
[21:41] <bastidrazor> !cloak | Nobul
[21:41] <Datalink> (SLPlugin:13790): GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib32/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcairo.so': libcairo-gobject.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:41] <thechad90000> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1912555  .... I'm having so much trouble getting Gnome 3.2 to work on Ubuntu. Someone please help me out. Everything you need to know about my issues with screenshots are at the link
[21:42] <Datalink> while I've done administration before, I don't knwo where I'm going to find this specific library for Ubuntu in apt, should I just go grab a 32 bit one and toss it in, hoping for the best here?
[21:42] <Datalink> know*
[21:42] <Budd> Why does my ssh keyring in Ubuntu have six undeleteable keys that I didn't create, mostly named "eric@0" ?
[21:43] <benbloom_> ok. I've been working on this problem for a long time and tried many solutions to no avail: I need help with RAM... I've got a 64b Acer M3100 running 64b Kubuntu 11.10. I use the builtin ethernet port and a GeForce 220 PCIe Video card. Apparently the MoBo is limited to <=4G but when I try to install >2G both the PCIe video card and my builtin ethernet jack stop working. I've tried using many different configurations to get >2G
[21:43] <benbloom_> including 2*2G 800mhz sticks (same mfg) and 4*1G 667mhz sticks. I've checked the individual sticks and sockets for errors with memtest86+. BIOS is identifying them properly, I've cleaned the RAM slots .nothing seems to work! can someone help?
[21:44] <Cue> I seem to be having a rather problematic issue with, well, anything that isn't RSA based login or direct console login in Ubuntu 11.10 Server
[21:45] <eightyeight> i have an .iso, and i would like to create a bootable usb with it, as well as boot other operating systems, such as fedora, opensuse, etc
[21:45] <Cue> That is, nothing can authenticate, SSHd, Webmin, etc, all fail. The password is correct.
[21:45] <Cue> Jan 21 21:38:30 luna sudo: pam_unix(sudo:auth): conversation failed
[21:45] <bastidrazor> Cue: there is #ubuntu-server that may be able to help.
[21:45] <Cue> bastidrazor: Ta :D
[21:45] <eightyeight> i have the usb successfully booting, and i can boot the kernel and initrd, but it fails looking for the cdrom
[21:45] <callaghan> Datalink: hmm. maybe sudo apt-get install libcairo-gobject2:i386 ?
[21:45] <eightyeight> how can i fix thx?
[21:45] <eightyeight> do i just put the .iso in the same directory as the kernel/initrd?
[21:45] <eightyeight> or do i unpack the .iso?
[21:46] <bguth> callaghan: Datalink wasnt able to recover it but the folder is fixed now. Thank you for your help
[21:46] <Datalink> bguth, alright, sorry I wasn't more help on that
[21:46] <Datalink> callaghan, trying that, moment
[21:47] <mongy> eightyeight, are you trying to boot an iso
[21:47] <eightyeight> mongy: i'm trying to install ubuntu from usb
[21:47] <mongy> eightyeight, the alternate installer iso or desktop
[21:47] <eightyeight> mongy: alternate
[21:48] <mongy> eightyeight, installed grub2 to the usb stick ?
[21:48] <UnknownFork> How do you change your desktop background on Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:49] <eightyeight> mongy: syslinux. the usb stick boots fine. the ubuntu installer just can't locate the cdrom media
[21:49] <jiffy> system settings
[21:49] <Datalink> I really wish they'd upgrade SecondLife to pure 64bit linux, the bug's been in their jira for years
[21:49] <mongy> eightyeight, wipe it, install grub2 to it and put the iso somewhere and make a grub.cfg
[21:49] <eightyeight> mongy: no, i'm not wiping it
[21:49] <mongy> eightyeight, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[21:50] <eightyeight> mongy: other operating systems install fine
[21:50] <eightyeight> mongy: ubuntu and debian are the only two that aren't. yet.
[21:50] <generated> how can I get the version of the current os, and the list of installed packages (the os is on an external disk)
[21:50]  * jiffy new to ubuntu
[21:50] <bullgard6> UnknownFork: You better state your GUI because the answer depends on that.
[21:51] <eightyeight> mongy: i've both spooled the media, and placed the .iso in the root of the ubuntu folder
[21:51] <eightyeight> mongy: neither work
[21:51] <UnknownFork> Whichever is the default one
[21:51] <mongy> eightyeight, oh, well.... I use grub2 to multi boot stuff.. cant help, sorry
[21:51] <Datalink> gener1c, uname -a for kernel info, apt-get and aptitude is something I'm not sure on
[21:52] <bullgard6> UnknownFork: I do not use Unity and thus do not know the answer.
[21:52] <Datalink> oh wait, that won't give you distro
[21:52] <pnorman> One of theoptions for dpkg should tell you the packages, but which option it is escapes me at the moment
[21:52] <TrD> welcome jiffy
[21:52] <jiffy> thank you
[21:53] <callaghan> UnknownFork: Click with the right mouse button on your desktop and choose "Change Desktop Background". At least that works for me ;)
[21:53] <digital_ownage> hey guys
[21:53] <digital_ownage> i have a question.
[21:53] <UnknownFork> kk
[21:54] <digital_ownage> I am trying to install xubuntu, but the installer is extremely slowly
[21:54] <Datalink> callaghan, well, it's not giving me the missing so error anymore, but it's giving me other grief, looks like more minor stuff
[21:54] <digital_ownage> it was the same with ubuntu
[21:54] <bullgard6> !ask | digital_ownage
[21:54] <callaghan> UnknownFork: Alternatively, open any picture file in the previewer, right click on it and select "Set as Desktop Background"
[21:54] <digital_ownage> oh yes xD sorry.
[21:54] <UnknownFork> ok
[21:54] <callaghan> Datalink: yeah, there seem to be some 32 bit libraries missing in your case
[21:55] <Datalink> callaghan, yeah, I'm restarting Second Life to see if I can get more errors, I still have to move the link into one of the bin directories to make this easier
[21:55] <bullgard6> digital_ownage You cannot speed up the installer.
[21:55] <digital_ownage> Well when i am installing an *ubuntu distro trough usb or cd, the installer is completely slowly and after a long time it stops when it is doing grub good.
[21:55] <digital_ownage> i tred it earlier, and it was fast
[21:55] <digital_ownage> tried *
[21:55] <digital_ownage> i have 8gb ram, usb3.0 2.93 ghz
[21:56] <jiffy> i need to learn the Terminal commands
[21:56] <digital_ownage> so it need to be really fast...
[21:56] <digital_ownage> needs*
[21:56] <lynx7os5> eightyeight: have you tried with a different iso? cd.iso or dvd.iso maybe? (not the alternate.iso)
[21:56] <jiffy> like sudo dpkg.. etc etc
[21:56] <digital_ownage> well has anyone an idea?
[21:56] <digital_ownage> ...?
[21:57] <bullgard6> digital_ownage It needs not --  Be happy if it does its job to the desired end.
[21:57] <digital_ownage> it doesnt
[21:57] <digital_ownage> thats it
[21:57] <cheese1756> jiffy, To install programs use sudo apt-get install (name)
[21:57] <cheese1756> Also, for any command just run man command
[21:57] <RidDrib> I'm boring i'll need something to do
[21:57] <cheese1756> Replace command with the command
[21:57] <digital_ownage> first it was really fast with the same distro
[21:57] <cheese1756> To see details on it
[21:57] <oscar76> generated: try uname -a  and  dpkg -l
[21:58] <bullgard6> digital_ownage So please report the error message which you obtained.
[21:58] <digital_ownage> yes
[21:58] <generated> oscar76: the OS is on an external disk
[21:58] <digital_ownage> very hard because i can't copy it
[21:58] <benbloom_> ok. I've been working on this problem for a long time and tried many solutions to no avail: I need help with RAM... I've got a 64b Acer M3100 running 64b Kubuntu 11.10. I use the builtin ethernet port and a GeForce 220 PCIe Video card. Apparently the MoBo is limited to <=4G but when I try to install >2G both the PCIe video card and my builtin ethernet jack stop working. I've tried using many different configurations to get >2G
[21:58] <benbloom_> including 2*2G 800mhz sticks (same mfg) and 4*1G 667mhz sticks. I've checked the individual sticks and sockets for errors with memtest86+. BIOS is identifying them properly, I've cleaned the RAM slots .nothing seems to work! can someone help?
[21:58] <digital_ownage> but fedora installs fine, but fedora is too hard for me :-(
[21:58] <callaghan> digital_ownage: Without an error message we're just guessing....
[21:59] <digital_ownage> NO errors, it just fails installing...
[21:59] <oscar76> generated: you mean it's not running actually?
[21:59] <generated> right
[21:59] <generated> it's plugged in on a usb
[21:59] <callaghan> digital_ownage: ok, what version are you trying to install?
[21:59] <digital_ownage> well it is, but it is so extremely slow that it is during about more than one hour
[21:59] <digital_ownage> 11.10
[21:59] <digital_ownage> i tried it earlier and it worked fine
[22:00] <meerkats> in unity, am I the only one that cannot keep the terminal icon in the launcher? I add it, but next time I log in, its gone
[22:00] <digital_ownage> ...
[22:00] <bullgard6> digital_ownage: In this case use an Ubuntu live CD and inspect the contents of the files on the hard disk.
[22:00] <Arney> I can't connect to any VPN server. i've been trying for 5 hours straight.
[22:00] <digital_ownage> ?
[22:00] <Arney> Hello... im going insane.
[22:01] <Slart> meerkats: it stays in the launcher for me.. do other application launchers stick?
[22:01] <digital_ownage> same
[22:01] <digital_ownage> well
[22:01] <meerkats> Slart, yes, the only problematic one is the terminal
[22:01] <digital_ownage> between the hops i made, i "raped" many linux systems
[22:01] <digital_ownage> like debian and fedora
[22:02] <digital_ownage> and after that, it won't install good...
[22:02] <bullgard6> What information is to be put in Banshee 2.2.1's program window  > Radio > Add a new Internet Radio Station > (Add a Radio Station) > Edit field »Originator of the Radio«?
[22:04] <digital_ownage> so can anyone help me?
[22:04] <callaghan> digital_ownage: the only thing I ever had problems with was improper alignment (http://askubuntu.com/questions/55214/how-do-i-correctly-align-partions-on-a-hdd-with-sector-size-of-4096-bytes) and when dealing with now filesystems like btrfs and especially when UEFI comes into play...
[22:05] <callaghan> *new filesystems, and the hdd has to be a new one with 4k sectors for the error to occur
[22:06] <callaghan> digital_ownage: But you seem to have a different problem... I would try to completely repartition the hard drive (maybe using the method for proper alignment above) and see if it works...
[22:08] <redgetan> im trying to mount my external hard drive into my mac but i dont know what the filesystem is. Is there a way to know it?
[22:09] <callaghan> digital_ownage: if everything fails, try using the alternate cd installer. It is a little more verbose and needs no graphical desktop (and what I noticed, it somehow works at times when the regular installer fails) so you can at least get a good error message from it.
[22:09] <kcorcoran> still new (and learning) Linux (ubuntu); at my work environment we use vmware esx server to host server virtual windows servers (and desktop) computers.  does the linux world offer an open source (free) hypervisor?
[22:09] <Diamondcite> redgetan: Which ubuntu version is this? Most of the time the file system is either Ext3 or Ext4
[22:09] <redgetan> ubuntu 10.04
[22:10] <Diamondcite> redgetan: In that case, it should be Ext4fs
[22:10] <callaghan> redgetan: you can see the file systems in the disk utility
[22:11] <redgetan> u mean diskutil right?
[22:12] <nivyaj> can someone help me with an ubuntu- eclipse problem?
[22:12] <callaghan> redgetan: yes
[22:12] <redgetan> when i ran diskutil info /dev/disk3, the filesystem value is none
[22:12] <Datalink> !ask | nivyaj
[22:13] <callaghan> redgetan: actually it's called palimpsest when you want to launch it from the command line ;)
[22:14] <NQTropic> !patience
[22:14] <redgetan> callaghan: im using a mac, and im trying to recover files from my ubuntu harddrive
[22:14] <redgetan> so palimpsest is not installed
[22:14] <Datalink> redgetan, OSX or Linux?
[22:14] <redgetan> i guess there's no mac version of it
[22:15] <redgetan> OSX
[22:15] <nivyaj> I'm trying to do android programming in eclipse, and am getting an adb error. i found this solution, but i'm having problems following it. can someone help me with the parts where i'm getting lost?
[22:15] <nivyaj> http://blog.jayway.com/2009/10/21/getting-android-sdk-working-on-ubuntu-64/
[22:15] <callaghan> redgetan: oh, now I get it... sorry... although I do not have a mac and do not know how to find out filesystems there
[22:15] <david_zagal> hola alguien me puede ayudar??
[22:15] <Datalink> redbeans, okay, OSX typically tends to be limited to Fat32 and HFS variants unless you've installed macfuse or ntfs3g and appropriate filesystem handlers, I'd suggest using a live CD for your recovery
[22:15] <redgetan> callaghan: no worries
[22:15] <redgetan> but youre right its probably ext4
[22:16] <BarkingFish> !es | david_zagal
[22:16] <redgetan> oh actually diamoncite said that
[22:16] <david_zagal> ok
[22:16] <Datalink> er, did I ping the... yeah redgetan that was aimed at you, I owe the other guy an apology
[22:16] <BarkingFish> gracias :)
[22:16] <callaghan> redgetan: hopefully :)
[22:17] <redgetan> DiamondCite: i did this 'mount -t ext4fs /dev/disk3 /Volumes/linux_hd/'
[22:17] <redgetan> but all i get is mount: exec /System/Library/Filesystems/ext4fs.fs/Contents/Resources/mount_ext4fs for /Volumes/linux_hd: No such file or directory
[22:18] <redgetan> Datalink: oh i see ur msg now
[22:18] <Datalink> redgetan, yeah, sorry, pinged the wrong person on it, big channel
[22:18] <redgetan> apprently, i cannot boot using the liveCD, it gets stuck in the middle
[22:19] <Datalink> redgetan, you have to go for one with EFI support for macs, due to the boot system they have
[22:19] <mister_m> how can I create a desktop file for an application that I launch from the command line (it is a .sh file)
[22:19] <mister_m> specifically for intelliK
[22:20] <mister_m> intelliJ, rather
[22:21] <redgetan> Datalink: or use macfuse as you suggested earlier
[22:22] <Datalink> redgetan, right, yeah, but you'll have to also get a ext4 fuse filesystem handler, as I said, I don't know where you'd find a decent one
[22:23] <Datalink> redgetan, mount should have an option to show what filesystems it can mount, that'll show what handlers you have
[22:23] <Zaoyvax> hello how come ubuntu detect as unknown an ati raedon xpress 200???
[22:23] <Arney> How can I fix VPN on ubuntu, I can't connect to any servers what so ever.
[22:23] <Zaoyvax> and i have an intel chipset, but the video card is ati
[22:23] <Zaoyvax> so
[22:24] <Zaoyvax> WHY THE SYSTEM HAS INSTALLED XORG INTEL!?
[22:24] <Datalink> !patience | zaoyvax
[22:26] <bullgard6> What information is to be put in Banshee 2.2.1's program window  > Radio > Add a new Internet Radio Station > (Add a Radio Station) > Edit field »Originator of the Radio«?
[22:28] <Zaoyvax> Hey°
[22:28] <Toroloko> hello, is there a nice 3d game to test that my graphic card works well?
[22:29] <Zaoyvax> Toroloko: try armagetron
[22:29] <v2> don't try armagetron
[22:30] <Toroloko> v2, another suggestion then? :p
[22:30] <Zaoyvax> hey why msn is impossible to login in empathy??? does this communty knows about live change????
[22:30] <Zaoyvax> why nobody answers ?? :( really
[22:31] <lynx7os5> Zaoyvax: i don't know....
[22:32] <rileyp> Zaoyvax: hey why msn is impossible to login in empathy??? does this communty knows about live change???? what chnage?
[22:32] <Zaoyvax> yeah, noobs,
[22:32] <Datalink> Zaoyvax, for your video issue, http://www.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx and grab the linux driver, Ubuntu does not ship with video drivers for AMD or NVidia due to license limitations
[22:32] <Zaoyvax> yeah, noobs, Windows Live messenger!!!!!}
[22:33] <Zaoyvax> also the drivers are NOT in additonal hardware!
[22:33] <rileyp> Zao we all know what that is but if you tell us something it would be good to tell us or link us
[22:33] <Datalink> Zaoyvax, the only reason I didn't get you the actual download link is I don't know if your distro is 32 bit or 64 bit
[22:33] <Asmoday> hola
[22:34] <Zaoyvax> and why the system is using intel Xorg???
[22:34] <nivyaj> I'm trying to do android programming in eclipse, and am getting an adb error. i found this solution, but i'm having problems following it. can someone help me with the parts where i'm getting lost?
[22:34] <Zaoyvax> Datalink: is 32
[22:34] <nivyaj> http://blog.jayway.com/2009/10/21/getting-android-sdk-working-on-ubuntu-64/
[22:34] <Zaoyvax> nivyaj: go #android-dev
[22:34] <Datalink> Zaoyvax, because that's the xorg default as all video cards tend to work under Intel driver specifications, while the AMD and NVidia drivers expand upon them
[22:34] <OerHeks> ati 200 is not supported with the additional drivers Zaoyvax > http://askubuntu.com/questions/22111/driver-for-a-ati-radeon-xpress-200m-graphics-card
[22:35] <nivyaj> Zaoyvax: but it's an ubuntu issue...
[22:35] <Zaoyvax> dudes, the msn trouble, what's the correct live server???
[22:35] <Zaoyvax> afff
[22:35] <Zaoyvax> nivyaj: sure?
[22:35] <Datalink> Zaoyvax, asking repeatedly won't fix the fact we don't know either
[22:35] <nivyaj> Zaoyvax: i think so...
[22:35] <Zaoyvax> nivyaj: really, go #android-dev, they can help you :)}
[22:36] <nivyaj> Zaoyvax: ok, thanks
[22:36] <rileyp>  nivyaj: I'm trying to do android programming in eclipse,  This is not a ubuntu issue
[22:36] <Zaoyvax> yeah
[22:36] <Zaoyvax> nivyaj: told you
[22:36] <Zaoyvax> go there
[22:37] <nivyaj> going, going, gone!
[22:38] <Zaoyvax> please, TELL ME WHY THE F****K EMPATHY IS HAVING TROUBLES WITH MSN LOGIN!!!!!!
[22:38] <OerHeks> !language | Zaoyvax
[22:38] <rileyp>  Zaoyvax: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. HA HA
[22:39] <Zaoyvax> SO PLEASE!
[22:39] <rileyp> Zaoyvax:  I stopped using msn years ago
[22:39] <OerHeks> Zaoyvax, we don't know, why microsoft changes their protocol
[22:40] <Zaoyvax> afff, im trying to use msn in empathy, why nobody noticed ms changes!?
[22:40] <mkquist> Zaoyvax: maybe   http://askubuntu.com/questions/76948/problems-connecting-msn-with-empathy
[22:40] <Zaoyvax> OerHeks: why ms changes msn protocol? IT DOES NOT MATTER!}
[22:40] <acerimmer> Zaoyvax: ask ms?
[22:41]  * tjiggi_fo detects a troll
[22:41] <Zaoyvax> lol no, also, empathy is the only chat app which is not able to connect to msn
[22:42] <Zaoyvax> and is the old url :(}
[22:44] <A|i3N> Can someone walk me through something/tell me the right utility? I want to resize my windows partition to give it some more room, from within ununtu but obviously I don't want to screw my ubuntu partition up.
[22:45] <Zaoyvax> ok, who can find out the live server for chat please!?
[22:45] <acerimmer> A|i3N: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions
[22:45] <Zaoyvax> because the old server is specified in empathy}
[22:45] <Zaoyvax> and is not related to contact list i think
[22:46] <Zaoyvax> please help me
[22:46] <acerimmer> A|i3N: ignore that link.  sorry, fat finger syndrome.  try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition
[22:47] <A|i3N> lol yea I was about to say, that one didn't really help :)
[22:48] <Zaoyvax> ok, so is ṕerfectly safe to get the linux drivers stright from ati???
[22:49] <Datalink> Zaoyvax, yes
[22:49] <A|i3N> argh.... I'm obviously going to have to do this off of a CD or something aren't I since I can't unmount an active partition.
[22:49] <Datalink> Zaoyvax, provided you have the right one for your hardware, they are perfectlys afe
[22:49] <Zaoyvax> ok
[22:49] <acerimmer> A|i3N: live CD exactly
[22:50] <Zaoyvax> A|i3N: try livecd, is a great tool
[22:50] <Datalink> A|i3N, your best bet is to look at the gparted live distribution, it's designed specifically for resizing disks
[22:50] <Zaoyvax> A|i3N: warning, if anything is corrupt and get messages about that in kernel/console, then u cannot use disk tools, only fsck
[22:51] <A|i3N> Oooh cool ok I'll check that one out.
[22:52] <A|i3N> I'm going to go into the live cd, shrink the ubuntu partition then finish up in windows. :)
[22:52] <czx> how to mount swapfile automatically?
[22:52] <acerimmer> A|i3N: good luck
[22:52] <A|i3N> Thanks :)
[22:53] <Zaoyvax> ya
[22:53] <A|i3N> *grabs the gparted live distro* lol I think I'll go with that.
[22:54] <Zaoyvax> why telepathy-butterfly is included??? and why telepathy-haze is not used!?
[22:54] <Zaoyvax> helloooooo
[22:56] <cipher__> Can I change the gtk theme easily?
[22:56] <Nano> Anyone ever had this happen on a configure script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/812429/
[22:57] <Nano> ^ sorry chose the wrong markdown for syntax highlighting.
[22:58] <Arney> Im looking at my logs to see why VPN doesn't work, here is what I found "Could not find the pppd binary"
[22:58] <cipher__> on 11.10
[22:58] <Arney> Thing is, PPPD is no where to be found on the package manager.
[22:59] <Arney> I didn't get that error on my live installation.
[22:59] <BarkingFish> Arney: try sudo apt-get install ppp from a terminal or search it in your package manager
[22:59] <BarkingFish> ppp is the ppp Daemon package
[23:01] <Arney> BarkingFish: According to my package manager, I have it INSTALLED!
[23:01] <Arney> This is confusing.
[23:01] <Arney> I can't uninstall it since about 10 other things depend on it.
[23:02] <BarkingFish> Arney: ok then, open a terminal up and try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ppp
[23:02] <BarkingFish> that shouldn't take anything off, simply reinstall the package
[23:02] <Arney> ooooh. nice command.
[23:02] <czx> how to mount swapfile automatically?
[23:02] <cipher__> I cannot even find the package manager :S
[23:02] <Zaoyvax> czx: fstab?
[23:02] <dlentz> czx, in /etc/fstab.
[23:03] <newty-ewt> System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[23:03] <Zaoyvax> and swap partition, it does auto-mount
[23:03] <ubuntu__> does anyone know where i can find a screensaver that simply displays the time elapsed since the screen saver started working?
[23:03] <BarkingFish> cipher__: I have no idea what ubuntu uses as package manager, I'd assume it's something synaptic or aptitude or GDebi or something like that
[23:03] <cipher__> well it's aptitude I am pretty sure
[23:03] <BarkingFish> I hide in here from Kubuntu, so what we use, you probably don't have
[23:03] <Zaoyvax> guys, the 11.10 package manager: NONE
[23:03] <cipher__> but I cannot find the gui
[23:04] <dlentz> software-center is the default (muon for kubuntu)
[23:04] <Zaoyvax> aptitude has no gui, and is for servers mainly
[23:04] <cipher__> rhNKA
[23:04] <cipher__> thanks
[23:04] <dlentz> synaptic works well as always
[23:04] <Zaoyvax> yes
[23:04] <Zaoyvax> just install it
[23:04] <cipher__> well software-center is the interface for apititude/
[23:04] <cipher__> ?
[23:04] <BarkingFish> dlentz: Yeah, we have problems with muon in Kubuntu at the moment, I'm directing people to apper at the present time
[23:04] <dlentz> technically, aptitude had an ncurses gui
[23:04] <BarkingFish> the installer keeps segfaulting
[23:04] <Zaoyvax> yeah lol, but that's a separate app
[23:05] <cipher__> How can i change the gtk theme?
[23:05] <Zaoyvax> aptitude /=/ soft center
[23:05] <tbruff13> I need to talk to someone from Canonical about a Landscape transaction involving 15000 computers
[23:05] <dlentz> BarkingFish, yeah I've seen complaints at ubuntuforums
[23:05] <Datalink> does anyone know if gstreamer's plugins are in a different location between 32 bit or 64 bit versions?
[23:05] <Zaoyvax> cipher__: hmm, idk, try in appareance??
[23:05] <cipher__> Zaoyvax: there is Nothing in appearance
[23:05] <cipher__> nothign
[23:05] <Zaoyvax> :O
[23:05] <Zaoyvax> yes
[23:05] <Zaoyvax> themes
[23:06] <cipher__> let me provide a screenshot
[23:06] <Zaoyvax> yeah, now theme tweaking sucks
[23:06] <Zaoyvax> gnome 2 was much easier to change theming
[23:06] <willwh> hi guys - I need some assistance configuring snmp v3 - if you have done so - please pm me :)
[23:06] <Guest59942> does anyone know where i can find a screensaver that simply displays the time elapsed since the screensaver started working?
[23:07] <dlentz> i hope mint's "cinnamon" makes stuff easier to configure
[23:07] <dlentz> so much so that ubuntu adopts it in the repo
[23:07] <cipher__> http://i40.tinypic.com/ht9ugh.png
[23:08] <cipher__> Zaoyvax
[23:13] <leobus> ciao
[23:19] <tbruff13> I need to talk to someone from Canonical about a Landscape transaction involving 15000 computers
[23:19] <selina2> wow
[23:21] <Machtin> soo just a quick question: any known reason why I have 230Mbytes of updates since yesterday? o.o
[23:21] <studioxps> Machtin, I just noticed that too
[23:21] <UnknownFork> I removed Firefox from the launcher, how do I get it back?
[23:22] <czx> and what shouldI write in fstab for getting swapfile on?
[23:22] <Machtin> studioxps: mhh okay
[23:22] <JohnnyDrama> type firefox and re-pin it?
[23:22] <acerimmer> tbruff13: canonical staff don't necessarily monitor this channel.  Try this: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[23:23] <tbruff13> acerimmer: i have tried
[23:23] <acerimmer> tbruff13: Skype for linux and call 'em?
[23:24] <tbruff13> acerimmer: skype will let me call britian
[23:24] <Datalink> czx, <insert your drive ID here> none            swap    sw              0       0
[23:24] <Datalink> naturally you want either a UUID like: UUID=8c6a636f-8392-49cf-a0d1-8286c1fa7faf or the mountpoint like /dev/sda5
[23:25] <acerimmer> tbruff13: sure - not free, however.  You need to buy buy and load some Skype minutes to your account.
[23:25] <czx> how the file can have mountpoint?
[23:25] <tbruff13> i will figure it out
[23:27] <Datalink> czx, I think you'd be able to specify a file instead of a partition, though I'd initialize the file with swapon before adding it to the fstab
[23:27] <mad_dev> hey, is anyone suffering from audio problems since the last update
[23:28] <studioxps> mad_dev, I did I had to turn the volume up :)  js...
[23:29] <mad_dev> studioxps: I mean as in no audio output at all
[23:29] <share> how to kill a connection? => ip_address:port     FIN_WAIT2
[23:36] <Toroloko> [  421.141460] EXT3-fs (sdd1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended
[23:36] <Toroloko> what does it mean?
[23:36] <OKTOKT> I'm not sure what happened, but I seem to have lost all connectivity through the wired ethernet port. Network-Manager displays is as "disconnected" while there is a working cord plugged in. I get no lights ont he PC nor the router. Wireless is working fine. Also ifconfig reports eth0 (wired) as it always has.
[23:37] <Toroloko> oh ok nevermind my question
[23:37] <Toroloko> OKTOKT, you can't connect it with network manager?
[23:38] <OKTOKT> Toroloko: There is nothing listed for networks upon the left-click, right-click > manage connections, lets me add options but no connection is made.
[23:39] <mega2> how do i repair the boot
[23:39] <acerimmer> mega2: need more info than that ...
[23:40] <yumbo> Is there a way to see total transferred data (up/down) via terminal ?
[23:40] <mega2> server 10.04 i cloned hd and put new hd into computer and it wint boot
[23:40] <Toroloko> OKTOKT no light is bad sign... i guess you tried with another cable?
[23:41] <yumbo> mega2, ofcourse not, you have to re-install grub2 via a livecd
[23:41] <acerimmer> mega2: not an expert but I'm pretty sure that boot is failing because grub can't find the previous HD
[23:41] <Toroloko> OKTOKT, also, dmesg | grep eth0 says something about the link being up or down?
[23:42] <mega2> if i reinstall will that del everything
[23:42] <acerimmer> mega2: wrong.  you're ONLY installing the boot loader - no formatting/partitioning.  See this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[23:43] <OKTOKT> Toroloko: I yanked the working cable from my WIN machine, so that is working. as for the dmesg output, ln3: ... ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[23:43] <share> why am I hearing a clicking sound after I stop playing audio? pulseaudio here
[23:44] <acerimmer> share: system sounds turned on??
[23:44] <indystorm> Hey guys-- I've been trying to research this and come up with nothing!!! What is the video card that is best supported on ubuntu? The only thing I can find is to avoid ATI... any suggestions as to a good video card to use!? thanks!
[23:45] <share> acerimmer: I didnt hear it before
[23:45] <share> this is annoying
[23:45] <acerimmer> share: try the reboot and test.  Sorry I can't suggest more.
[23:45] <share> after 6 seconds
[23:46] <Guest3468> indystorm: nvidia of course!
[23:46] <acerimmer> indystorm: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[23:46] <cipher__> Hi, how can I install a new gtk theme?
[23:46] <share> I hear the sound when I hit play and also 6 seconds after I hit stop-
[23:46] <acerimmer> cipher__: sudo apt-get install
[23:46] <cipher__> acerimmer: what?
[23:46] <cipher__> for a downloaded gtk theme?
[23:46] <czx> how to know the free virtual memory available?
[23:47] <ActionPa1snip> indystorm: nvidia :)
[23:47] <ActionPa1snip> czx: free -m
[23:47] <acerimmer> cipher__: ah.  in that case, click on the deb and it should launch the archive manager and install...
[23:47] <Lirth> When installing Ubuntu 11.10 onto a new computer, I have some problems. For some reason I am unable to install it along side Windows for dual boot. Any idea why?
[23:47] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/4-beautiful-gnome-32-compatible-gtk.html
[23:47] <astartoth> cipher__: is it a .deb file?
[23:47] <czx> and  which one is an answer?
[23:47] <ActionPa1snip> Lirth: which version of Windows?
[23:48] <share> sdfsdlçjklsdfksdf
[23:48] <cipher__> since when was a theme a deb file ?
[23:48] <Lirth> ActionPa1snip: 7
[23:48] <astartoth> cipher__: it can be. All installed themes under ubuntu are .debs.
[23:48]  * cipher__ is confused
[23:48] <cipher__> oh
[23:48] <ActionPa1snip> Lirth: resize the NTFS in Windows 7 then install to the new free space. Be sure your backups are up to date in case of catastrophe
[23:48] <urashima82> hy guys !
[23:48] <astartoth> if it isn't, you must untar it and move it to /usr/share/themes
[23:48] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: they can be debs
[23:48] <cipher__> ok
[23:48] <OKTOKT> Toroloko: Got any ideas? Is there a way I can reload the default driver/configurations for the device and see if it's just the recent changes? I have no propbem reconfiguring everything again.
[23:49] <cipher__> thanks
[23:49] <astartoth> or create a dir under ~/.themes and unzip it there.
[23:49] <Lirth> ActionPa1snip: So it doesn't allow it because the partition for Windows 7 is too large?
[23:49] <astartoth> under your home dir: mkdir /home/cipher/.themes
[23:49] <astartoth> then tar xpvfz theme.tar.gz -C ~/.themes
[23:50] <ActionPa1snip> Lirth: you probably have no unallocated space to install to
[23:50] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: found this too: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MalagaEasy+Gnome%C2%B73+Theme?content=134618
[23:51] <Lirth> ActionPa1snip: Thanks. On this computer that I'm using it allowed me to use the automated re sizer for partitions. Do you know why it wouldn't have worked on the other one? I used the same installation disk.
[23:51] <gadak1> any one with experience with submitting patches for linux kernel i need some help
[23:51] <share> Why do I hear a clicking sound
[23:52] <ActionPa1snip> Lirth: not sure, I don't use windows, and if I was to dual boot I'd plan my partitions so I dodn't have to resize.
[23:52] <ActionPa1snip> share: possibly power management on the sound chip..
[23:52] <share> it's disabled
[23:52] <Lirth> ActionPa1snip: sounds good.
[23:53] <evernoob> is 11.10 available for Intel 64 bit?
[23:53] <yumbo> evernoob, yes
[23:53] <evernoob> can't for life of me find it, only amd64
[23:53] <yumbo> evernoob, amd64 = intel64
[23:53] <share> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[23:54] <share> by who?
[23:54] <Lirth> evernoob: I had some trouble. Ubuntu wouldn't boot for me when I tried to install it. I had to remove and install 32 bit.
[23:54] <yumbo> it's just an unlucky chosen name because of amd being the first ones to use 64bit for consumers
[23:54] <evernoob> Lirth - I didn't even get that far - I thought amd was an architecture, non intel
[23:54] <ActionPa1snip> share: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo lshw -C sound; lsb_release -a; uname -a     Thanks
[23:54] <evernoob> thanks yumbo
[23:54] <matroska> heeeeey
[23:54] <matroska> im here now
[23:55] <matroska> so lets get started
[23:55] <matroska> :)
[23:55] <ActionPa1snip> evernoob: amd just got to desktop 64bitness sooner, the name just stuck
[23:55] <matroska> talkin about amd
[23:55] <matroska> is it better or intel
[23:55] <yumbo> evernoob, this is the download link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[23:55] <matroska> i need votes
[23:55] <ActionPa1snip> !poll
[23:55] <evernoob> do I need the alternate for encrypted root install as in previous versions?
[23:56] <Lirth> evernoob: I was using the Ubuntu website and downloaded the 64 bit straight from it. I didn't see the file until it wouldn't boot and I used windows to examine the file. I talked with some friends and they recommended to use 32 bit instead because of the problems.
[23:56] <ActionPa1snip> evernoob: its part of the desktop install#
[23:56] <yumbo> matroska, this is not the place for that, go to ##hardware
[23:56] <matroska> aight
[23:56] <yumbo> evernoob, I think you do
[23:56] <arthurdent> is there any way to set up WPA enterprise without using know what certificate to use?
[23:56] <OKTOKT> can I refresh the driver for my network adapter from terminal? device is eth0 and driver is reported as "sky2" v1.25 I can't seem to get it to link up.
[23:57] <Lirth> evernoob: I hope you don't have to deal with the same problems I did, I gave up after a few days of problems.
[23:57] <yumbo> evernoob, the appropiate alternate download link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[23:57] <evernoob> Lirth - you're saying the 64 bit version is problematic of itself?
[23:57] <yumbo> Lirth, I've almost never seen people have problems with the 64bit version of Ubuntu as far as basic installation goes
[23:57] <share> parm:           power_save_controller:Reset controller in power save mode. (bool)
[23:58] <snowrichard> i'm on 64 bit ubuntu 11.10
[23:58] <Lirth> evernoob: I had problems when upgrading from 32 to 64 bit. I don't know if it is just me, I saw no complaints of what I ran into online.
[23:58] <ActionPa1snip> share: can you pastebin the output of my command please
[23:58] <snowrichard> only had 1 glitch with the X display, i uninstalled the propriatary nvidia driver and no more problems
[23:58] <yumbo> Lirth, it's never a wise idea to update ubuntu 32 bit to 64bit
[23:58] <ActionPa1snip> Lirth: you canonly change arch with a clean install. You can't upgrade from 32bit to 64bit
[23:58] <share> ActionPa1snip: it has nothing to do with that
[23:59] <yumbo> that's why it didn't work ^
[23:59] <Lirth> yumbo: Ahh...
[23:59] <ActionPa1snip> share: if you hear a clicking sound then the chip will be switching off and on. If you can give the output of the command, I can advise
[23:59] <share> http://pastebin.com/cCB1bxWd