[00:59] <theoN^> Hi all, I am stuck with my Catalyst control center. It is bugged on 11.10 (from what I read). Doing "gksudo amdcccle"  does open CCC, but whenever I make changes to my settings, it seems as if they are not omitted. What am I forgetting/doing wrong?
[01:38] <Joe50_Ohms> Will the latest to be release, be having a 5-Year LTS just like Ubuntu & company!??
[01:42] <knome> no, xubuntu 12.04 will be 3 years lts
[01:46] <Joe50_Ohms> ok
[02:04] <Fudge> how comes orca with xubuntu
[04:38] <NQTropic> anyone know what the latest kernel update was for?
[04:54] <Besogon> who cares?
[04:54] <Besogon> :)
[04:55] <Besogon> I never know why they are released at all :) My PC worked even with ubuntu 6.10
[04:56] <NQTropic> ok....... has another rum an coke then
[07:02] <Fudge> lucky u
[08:52] <Mikael____> Hello, is there anybody here that can help me with xfce4-power-manager settings not saving?
[10:40] <drzero> hello folks
[10:43] <drzero> geez... this channel is quiet
[10:43] <TheSheep> nah
[10:43] <TheSheep> what do you expect on saturday morning?
[10:55] <Besogon> NO. Here is no such silence like it is on ExtJS channel
[10:55] <Besogon> :(
[11:14]  * drzero is not surprised by ExtJS silence as it is a dead-end project
[11:19] <giles> hi there is something wrong with lightdm, it doesn't run by default, when I do sudo start lightdm it just presents a flashing cursor on a black screen.
[11:21] <giles> is lightdm the default dm for xubuntu?
[11:22] <Sysi> yup
[11:27] <giles> when i run lightdm --test-mode I get
[11:27] <giles> failed to get D-Bus connection
[11:41] <Sysi> giles: check that you have dbus installed (and running)
[11:41] <giles> installed yes
[11:41] <giles> how do I check running?
[11:42] <Sysi> service dbus start
[11:43] <giles> giles@masala:~$ sudo service dbus start
[11:43] <giles> start: Job is already running: dbus
[12:03] <giles> ok I got it working by changing from unity-greeter in lightdm.conf to lightdm-gtk-greeter
[12:05] <giles> but its not launching lightdm on boot still.
[12:09] <giles> ah, probably this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74551/lightdm-not-starting-on-boot
[12:09] <mongy> update-rc.d lightdm defaults ?
[12:27] <drzero> giles - make sure you don't have another DM installed
[12:27] <drzero> like GDM / XDM / KDM etc.
[13:11] <xubuntu454> hey
[13:34] <Besogon> hey
[13:49] <hobgoblin> hi Besogon
[13:49] <Besogon> hi, hobgoblin :)
[15:41] <dedalo> quit
[15:56] <_Pete_> does xfce have own login manager ?
[15:58] <SpiKe_Spiegel> no
[15:59] <SpiKe_Spiegel> In Xubuntu 11.10, LightDM is the login manager
[15:59] <SpiKe_Spiegel> but it'n not Xfce-related
[15:59] <SpiKe_Spiegel> *it's
[16:00] <_Pete_> ok thx
[17:43] <Guest62109> Hello - I've got a problem with choppy .avi playback in both Parole and VLC. Searching has led me to suspect it may have something to do with EXA, XAA, and/or compositing, none of which I fully understand. I'm running Xubuntu 11.10 on an old ThinkPad T42.
[17:47] <holstein> i have found its usually relating to the graphics card drivers
[17:47] <holstein> it = the video playback issues
[17:49] <TVasEyes> Guest62109: various tips for optimisation can be found on http://thinkpad-forum.de/content/  (with help from Google Translate ;) )
[17:53] <Guest62109> Disabling video acceleration in the VLC video preferences seems to have done the trick.
[17:59] <Guest62109> Thanks all! Adios.
[19:40] <darksteel> hi
[19:40] <darksteel> ?
[19:41] <TheSheep> !hi
[19:41] <darksteel> I have some questions
[19:41] <TheSheep> darksteel: also, don't irc from root
[19:41] <darksteel> brb
[19:42] <darksteel> back
[19:43] <darksteel> so yeah, I had some questions
[19:43] <darksteel> I have an old box still running an old release
[19:43] <GridCube> ask
[19:43] <darksteel> wondering  how I can upgrade it remotely
[19:44] <darksteel> the apt-get sources file shows it is running karmic koala!
[19:44] <GridCube> mmhm
[19:44] <darksteel> some of the sources are obsolete so apt-get update produces errors
[19:44] <darksteel> would rather do it remotely from the command-line
[19:45] <darksteel> (I can always go to the machine for the final reboot)
[19:47] <darksteel> I found this page: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-9.10-karmic-koala-to-10.04-lucid-lynx-desktop-and-server
[19:47] <GridCube> and your question is?
[19:48] <darksteel> just wondering if the procedure on that page is OK?
[19:49] <darksteel> since Im running xubuntu not regular ubuntu
[19:49] <Sysi> doesn't make a difference
[19:50] <Sysi> server update guide looks a bit weird, but I have only once upgraded ubuntu and I did it locally
[19:50] <darksteel> will that procedure update the XFCE packages too
[19:50] <Sysi> of course
[19:50] <darksteel> ah, cool
[19:50] <Sysi> they're from same repositories
[19:50] <darksteel> ill give it a shot
[19:50] <darksteel> thanks
[20:48] <Guest50748> Hello all - I've got Xubuntu 11.10 running on an old ThinkPad T42 and I have choppy video playback issues that I didn't have on the same machine running Ubuntu 11.04. Does this have something to do with EXA vs XAA and, if so, how do I switch from one to the other?
[20:51] <TheSheep> funny, you are the second person asking this here
[20:52] <TheSheep> 18:53 < Guest62109> Disabling video acceleration in the VLC video preferences  seems to have done the trick.
[20:54] <Guest50748> Oh - that was me from earlier today. Tweaking VLC preferences didn't prove as robust a solution as originally suspected it might.
[20:56] <mongy> Guest50748, what video you got?
[20:57] <Guest50748> I don't know, but it's whatever was factory issued. I haven't added a video card or anything.
[20:58] <philippe> Hey
[20:58] <philippe> I have a problem with xubuntu 11.10
[20:58] <Guest87718> Hey
[20:58] <Guest87718> sorry it changed my nickname
[20:58] <knome> !ask | Paimun
[20:58] <knome> err, Guest87718 ^
[20:58] <Paimun> <_<
[20:59] <Guest87718> VLC keeps crashing with sopcast
[20:59] <mongy> Guest50748, lspci | grep VGA
[20:59] <knome> Guest87718, it does that when you're trying to use a registered nickname
[20:59] <knome> Paimun, sorry
[20:59] <Paimun> it's k :P
[20:59] <Guest87718> Anyone know why VLC crashes?
[20:59] <Guest87718> I tried smplayer and does the same
[20:59] <knome> Guest87718, we can't really help you with sopcast
[20:59] <Guest87718> oh
[21:00] <Guest50748> Ah ha: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[21:01] <mongy> wow, that is old
[21:01] <Guest50748> 'fraid so
[21:02] <mongy> and you say it was ok in 11.04?
[21:02] <Guest50748> yup - smooth playback all the time
[21:02] <mongy> I think the foss ati driver was updated a lot since then...
[21:03] <Guest50748> it was regular Ubuntu 11.04, not Xubuntu 11.04, if that makes a difference
[21:03] <mongy> can't remember where to check for exa/xaa
[21:03] <mongy> is compositing on ?  Settings > window manager tweaks
[21:04] <Guest50748> I looked for an xorg.conf but couldn't find one
[21:04] <mongy> I found that made things a little choppy even on my 4650hd
[21:05] <Guest50748> yes - compositing is "on" in Window Manager Tweaks
[21:05] <mongy> try it off then.
[21:05] <Guest50748> ok - here goes...
[21:07] <Guest50748> Ah! Fixed!
[21:07] <Guest50748> Many thanks, mongy!
[21:07] <mongy> thought so
[21:07] <mongy> my 4650hd with 1gig ram video ram takes a hit with it..   with compiz it doesn't
[21:14] <Guest50748> Good day, all!
[21:15] <GridCube> good day to you too
[21:19] <mongy> good day, wot wot
[21:31] <Toroloko> hi, i just installed xubuntu. How to install the nvidia driver for my gtx 560?
[21:32] <Unit193> Menu > System > Additional Drivers
[21:34] <Toroloko> hmm, i don't have "additional drivers" there
[21:34] <Toroloko> i'm in xubuntu 11.10
[21:37] <Unit193> Well, you could just open a terminal and type  jockey-gtk  too
[21:38] <Toroloko> ok, that works, but it only gives an empty list
[21:39] <Unit193> Was worth a shot, it's the easier way
[21:40] <Unit193> They are talking about it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681040
[21:40] <Toroloko> i found http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-install-nvidia-2750907-driver-in.html
[21:40] <Toroloko> they list the 560
[21:40] <Toroloko> so it should be good, right?
[21:43] <Unit193> !ppa | Just remember this
[21:43] <mongy> Toroloko, you don't have Application Menu > Settings > Additional Drivers ?
[21:44] <Toroloko> no, it isn't there. But launching it manually returns an empty list anyway
[21:44] <mongy> odd.
[21:44] <mongy> should be there (tm)
[21:45] <Toroloko> Uh Oo
[21:45] <Toroloko> apt-get install shh
[21:45] <Toroloko> ssh
[21:45] <Toroloko> resulted in....
[21:45] <Toroloko> kernel oops -_-
[21:47] <Toroloko> how can this be happening...
[21:50] <Toroloko> is the oops message saved somewhere if i reboot?
[21:51] <knome> most probably yes, syslog or sth
[21:59] <Toroloko> don't see anything in the logs..
[21:59] <Toroloko> pfffffff
[21:59] <Toroloko> so, what's the normal way of solving kernel panics?
[22:01] <TheSheep> diagnosing and replacing the faulty hardware, most of the time
[22:01] <TheSheep> you can try doing a memory check and a disk scan, for a start
[22:02] <mongy> Toroloko, on 11.10 or testing 12.04?
[22:02] <Toroloko> 11.10 :(
[22:02] <Toroloko> it's a brand new PC
[22:02] <Toroloko> no issues on windows
[22:02] <mongy> Toroloko, done an upgrade yet?
[22:02] <mongy> there have been like, (3?) kernel updates
[22:03] <Toroloko> yes
[22:03] <mongy> 2 or 3 anyway..
[22:03] <Toroloko> 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:45:26 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[22:03] <Toroloko> this is what is running
[22:03] <mongy> so you upgraded.. ok. well try booting the older kernel and try again
[22:03] <mongy> hold shift while pc is post bios
[22:04] <Toroloko> well, there probably was the same issue with old kernel, i just ran it like 15 minutes and it seems to be non-deterministic...
[22:05] <mongy> must be a hardware thing.
[22:05] <Toroloko> maybe i should install on an external drive, but it would be very slowed down wouldn't it?
[22:05] <rlmccormick> why does it have to be a hardware thing?
[22:05] <Toroloko> (i think the hard drive must be the problem, there were a lot of scsi in the oops message if i remember well)
[22:06] <mongy> Toroloko, give your hw a good test anyway.
[22:06] <mongy> rlmccormick, doesn't have to be, but it's a place to start looking
[22:08] <Toroloko> i tried installing 10.04 the other day
[22:09] <Toroloko> i think the same thing happened, also at my first apt-get install...
[22:09] <Toroloko> but there were other problems too so i didn't pay enough attention
[22:12] <piv1> is there some trick to make bitmap fonts work?
[22:17] <mongy> Toroloko, check your hardware I guess....
[22:19] <Toroloko> is there a good way to check the hard drive ?
[22:36] <Toroloko> the oops didn't happen again so far....
[22:36] <Toroloko> still, would be annoying if the hard drive was faulty :(
[22:41] <mongy> umm.. only way I bother to check drive is a good old dd
[22:41] <mongy> memory check first, quicker.  then hd.
[22:42] <Toroloko> i guess the boot option "memory test" is useful for that?
[22:43] <Toroloko> never used it in years '^^
[22:43] <mongy> does what it says on the tin
[22:43] <mongy> to have consistent errors like that throughout distros,  I dunno what it could really be
[22:52] <Toroloko> i think the hard drive, because it was really noisy the first day i used windows...
[22:52] <Toroloko> i was thinking there might be a problem
[23:26] <mongy> If I think my hd is a problem I usually dd wipe it.  It will let me know if it fails..