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astraljavaHiya. We're giving it 5, the chair is running late a bit.17:01
holsteinubuntustudio contributors meeting participants?17:03
astraljavao/17:03
craigs63here17:03
holsteincool... lemme find a few links...17:03
holstein#startmeeting17:04
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bkerensahi17:04
holsteinfor the record... give one more o/ to say you are here since i started the bot17:05
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holstein#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January2217:07
holsteinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January2217:07
holsteinis ScottL coming?17:08
holsteinanyways.. he is emailing about that first item there17:08
astraljavaHaven't heard of him in a while.17:08
holsteinwho is "jon" ?17:08
holstein#topic old business17:09
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astraljavaHe has been on the channel a few times.17:09
holstein"Jon email list for separate meeting for work flows discussion: INPROGRESS"17:09
holsteinnot sure about where that is... but its logged ^^17:09
holstein#topic Decide alternating meeting times on channel/mailing list later17:10
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astraljavaYeah, I sent an email regarding that a while back.17:10
holsteinastraljava: i think we are just starting on the every-other-week plan correct?17:10
holsteincool... so i think that is OK as-is for now17:10
astraljavaholstein: True. For formal meetings, every other week on here.17:11
astraljavaInformal in between, on our own channel.17:11
astraljavaNo, the alternating was about different times of the day/week.17:11
holsteini like it.. and we'll see how effective it becomes17:11
holsteinlets move on then to the LTS discussion17:12
holstein#topic LTS proposal17:12
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holsteinastraljava: do you know where we are on that?17:12
holsteinwhere is xubuntu on that?17:12
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astraljavaXubuntu was accepted according to the example proposal I linked to.17:13
astraljavaWe were supposed to talk about it here.17:13
holsteinhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2012-January/001160.html17:13
holsteinastraljava: you want to take that on right now? and talk us through it?17:13
astraljavaNo, I don't, since we're missing our leader.17:13
astraljavaI propose we postpone it for later.17:14
holsteini think theres time for that as well... lets move on then17:14
holstein#topic Blueprints statuses17:15
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holsteinhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio17:15
holsteinagain, i think ScottL is mostly the one to comment here, but i think he said we were making good progress17:16
holsteinastraljava: do you remember when he said we would have a LIVE image?17:16
astraljavaThere's no ETA as far as I know.17:16
astraljavaBut it's moving on rapidly.17:16
holsteineither way, those are the links to the blueprints and that is logged... moving on...17:17
holstein#topic mudita24 version debate17:17
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holsteinailo: were you envolved with this?17:18
astraljavaYeah, I added that just recently.17:18
ailonope17:18
astraljavaThere's a newer version in debian sid now.17:18
holsteinhttp://packages.debian.org/sid/mudita2417:18
holsteinhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mudita2417:18
holsteinastraljava: can we bring it in?17:18
astraljavaI have this from the debian maintainer:17:18
astraljavaMajor changes follow:17:18
astraljava* Applied patch by James Morris to modernize and remove some deprecated code. * Remove the support for very old GTK+ versions. * Moved to cmake build system. * Fixed wrong alsactl location. Now cmake looks for alsactl. Override17:18
astraljavawith environment variable ALSACTL_PROG. * Added usage info. * Fixed serious fatal X error: height too big.17:18
astraljavaLooks like there are big changes. I'm a bit worried they are too big.17:19
astraljavaDoes the team think we can test this enough so that we could sync it?17:19
astraljavaThere's still time until Feature Freeze.17:19
astraljava..17:19
holsteinastraljava: i cant... i dont have the hardware17:19
ailoMe and Scott have them17:19
astraljavaI do, but I don't do so much of the stuff that's on work flows.17:19
astraljavaailo: Do you think you could test it? I could file the sync request, then.17:20
ailoInstall the sid package and test it? Sure17:20
holsteinif we can get it tested, i say go for it... i know folks have that hardware, and i would like the LTS to be supportive of it17:20
lenSorry, which hw?17:21
astraljavaTrue. So, make an action for ailo to test it, and we should have a review on the next meeting. Ok?17:21
astraljavalen: ICE1712 chip17:21
lenI have that too.17:22
astraljavalen: Could you provide testing, too+17:22
lenOf what sw?17:22
holstein#action ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion17:22
meetingologyACTION: ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion17:22
astraljavamudita2417:22
lenOK17:22
astraljavaThanks!17:22
astraljava..17:22
holsteinthats all i have on the official list... open items?17:23
holsteinany other business?17:23
holstein#topic other business17:23
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astraljavaNothing from me.17:24
holsteini want to say thanks to len for such great testing!17:24
holsteinwhere are we on UI? on look and feel?17:24
lensorry im late17:24
holsteinwallpaper? that kind of thing...17:25
holsteinlen: you're right on time :)17:26
holsteinlen: if you want to officially log some of the things you are commenting on through the list, go for it17:26
lenas in bug?17:27
holsteinlen: just so its in the minutes17:27
lenI just files a kernel bug for panic on sd card insert17:28
lenthe extra packages are acting up again but should be fixed by now.17:28
holsteinlen: were you working on the audio group issue?17:28
holsteindisussing it?17:28
lenNot really. The installer gets it nobody else does.17:29
astraljavaholstein: Sorry, I actually took an action on it.17:29
lenThe default for a new user is custom which comes with no perms, instead of desktop17:29
holsteinastraljava: the audio group?17:29
astraljavaYeah. We talked about it with ailo, and it seems the user created by the installer should be in audio group by default.17:30
holsteinastraljava: and the live user too?17:30
astraljavaI don't know, but maybe.17:31
holsteini could argure audio and video, though i know the security risks are valid17:31
astraljavaPut an action of it for me, please.17:31
ailoIt would kind of be pointless to have a live user if it didn't belong to audio group17:31
holstein#action astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso17:32
meetingologyACTION: astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso17:32
astraljavaThanks.17:32
holsteinanything else?17:32
lenthere is a link missing in the iso too17:33
lenthere is no X login without17:33
ailoI'm contacting Debian multimedia team to discuss the possibility to add audio group administration as a part of installing jackd. It's not the neatest way perhaps, but if it works, it would make things easier17:33
holsteinlen: that sounds important... elaborate17:33
holsteinthough, im sure our iso is far from complete at this stage..17:34
len/usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop is missing. it should be a link to the other file that is in the same directory17:34
holsteinlen: would you mind to keep that on your radar, and check when we get an iso?17:35
lenPretty hard not to :-)17:35
holstein#action len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops17:35
meetingologyACTION: len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops17:35
holsteinailo: i like that... ill action you to report on it?17:36
holstein#action ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation17:37
meetingologyACTION: ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation17:37
holsteinanything else?17:37
holstein#next meeting17:37
holstein#topic next meeting17:37
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holsteinfebruary 5th same time, same channel!17:38
holsteini cannon chair then... you want me to say its you astraljava ? and you can hand it out as needed17:38
holsteincannot*17:38
astraljavaYeah that works.17:38
holstein#action astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired17:38
meetingologyACTION: astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired17:38
holstein#endmeeting17:39
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meetingologyMeeting ended Sun Jan 22 17:39:48 2012 UTC.17:39
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holsteinthanks len astraljava ailo craigs63 !17:40
astraljavaThanks Mike for chairing! Others for participating!17:41
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