[17:01] <astraljava> Hiya. We're giving it 5, the chair is running late a bit.
[17:03] <holstein> ubuntustudio contributors meeting participants?
[17:03] <astraljava> o/
[17:03] <craigs63> here
[17:03] <holstein> cool... lemme find a few links...
[17:04] <holstein> #startmeeting
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[17:04] <bkerensa> hi
[17:05] <holstein> for the record... give one more o/ to say you are here since i started the bot
[17:06] <astraljava> o/
[17:06] <craigs63> o/
[17:06] <ailo> o/
[17:07] <holstein> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22
[17:07] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22
[17:08] <holstein> is ScottL coming?
[17:08] <holstein> anyways.. he is emailing about that first item there
[17:08] <astraljava> Haven't heard of him in a while.
[17:08] <holstein> who is "jon" ?
[17:09] <holstein> #topic old business
[17:09] <astraljava> He has been on the channel a few times.
[17:09] <holstein> "Jon email list for separate meeting for work flows discussion: INPROGRESS"
[17:09] <holstein> not sure about where that is... but its logged ^^
[17:10] <holstein> #topic Decide alternating meeting times on channel/mailing list later
[17:10] <astraljava> Yeah, I sent an email regarding that a while back.
[17:10] <holstein> astraljava: i think we are just starting on the every-other-week plan correct?
[17:10] <holstein> cool... so i think that is OK as-is for now
[17:11] <astraljava> holstein: True. For formal meetings, every other week on here.
[17:11] <astraljava> Informal in between, on our own channel.
[17:11] <astraljava> No, the alternating was about different times of the day/week.
[17:11] <holstein> i like it.. and we'll see how effective it becomes
[17:12] <holstein> lets move on then to the LTS discussion
[17:12] <holstein> #topic LTS proposal
[17:12] <holstein> astraljava: do you know where we are on that?
[17:12] <holstein> where is xubuntu on that?
[17:13] <astraljava> Xubuntu was accepted according to the example proposal I linked to.
[17:13] <astraljava> We were supposed to talk about it here.
[17:13] <holstein> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2012-January/001160.html
[17:13] <holstein> astraljava: you want to take that on right now? and talk us through it?
[17:13] <astraljava> No, I don't, since we're missing our leader.
[17:14] <astraljava> I propose we postpone it for later.
[17:14] <holstein> i think theres time for that as well... lets move on then
[17:15] <holstein> #topic Blueprints statuses
[17:15] <holstein> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio
[17:16] <holstein> again, i think ScottL is mostly the one to comment here, but i think he said we were making good progress
[17:16] <holstein> astraljava: do you remember when he said we would have a LIVE image?
[17:16] <astraljava> There's no ETA as far as I know.
[17:16] <astraljava> But it's moving on rapidly.
[17:17] <holstein> either way, those are the links to the blueprints and that is logged... moving on...
[17:17] <holstein> #topic mudita24 version debate
[17:18] <holstein> ailo: were you envolved with this?
[17:18] <astraljava> Yeah, I added that just recently.
[17:18] <ailo> nope
[17:18] <astraljava> There's a newer version in debian sid now.
[17:18] <holstein> http://packages.debian.org/sid/mudita24
[17:18] <holstein> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mudita24
[17:18] <holstein> astraljava: can we bring it in?
[17:18] <astraljava> I have this from the debian maintainer:
[17:18] <astraljava> Major changes follow:
[17:18] <astraljava> * Applied patch by James Morris to modernize and remove some deprecated code. * Remove the support for very old GTK+ versions. * Moved to cmake build system. * Fixed wrong alsactl location. Now cmake looks for alsactl. Override
[17:18] <astraljava> with environment variable ALSACTL_PROG. * Added usage info. * Fixed serious fatal X error: height too big.
[17:19] <astraljava> Looks like there are big changes. I'm a bit worried they are too big.
[17:19] <astraljava> Does the team think we can test this enough so that we could sync it?
[17:19] <astraljava> There's still time until Feature Freeze.
[17:19] <astraljava> ..
[17:19] <holstein> astraljava: i cant... i dont have the hardware
[17:19] <ailo> Me and Scott have them
[17:19] <astraljava> I do, but I don't do so much of the stuff that's on work flows.
[17:20] <astraljava> ailo: Do you think you could test it? I could file the sync request, then.
[17:20] <ailo> Install the sid package and test it? Sure
[17:20] <holstein> if we can get it tested, i say go for it... i know folks have that hardware, and i would like the LTS to be supportive of it
[17:21] <len> Sorry, which hw?
[17:21] <astraljava> True. So, make an action for ailo to test it, and we should have a review on the next meeting. Ok?
[17:21] <astraljava> len: ICE1712 chip
[17:22] <len> I have that too.
[17:22] <astraljava> len: Could you provide testing, too+
[17:22] <len> Of what sw?
[17:22] <holstein> #action ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion
[17:22] <meetingology> ACTION: ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion
[17:22] <astraljava> mudita24
[17:22] <len> OK
[17:22] <astraljava> Thanks!
[17:22] <astraljava> ..
[17:23] <holstein> thats all i have on the official list... open items?
[17:23] <holstein> any other business?
[17:23] <holstein> #topic other business
[17:24] <astraljava> Nothing from me.
[17:24] <holstein> i want to say thanks to len for such great testing!
[17:24] <holstein> where are we on UI? on look and feel?
[17:24] <len> sorry im late
[17:25] <holstein> wallpaper? that kind of thing...
[17:26] <holstein> len: you're right on time :)
[17:26] <holstein> len: if you want to officially log some of the things you are commenting on through the list, go for it
[17:27] <len> as in bug?
[17:27] <holstein> len: just so its in the minutes
[17:28] <len> I just files a kernel bug for panic on sd card insert
[17:28] <len> the extra packages are acting up again but should be fixed by now.
[17:28] <holstein> len: were you working on the audio group issue?
[17:28] <holstein> disussing it?
[17:29] <len> Not really. The installer gets it nobody else does.
[17:29] <astraljava> holstein: Sorry, I actually took an action on it.
[17:29] <len> The default for a new user is custom which comes with no perms, instead of desktop
[17:29] <holstein> astraljava: the audio group?
[17:30] <astraljava> Yeah. We talked about it with ailo, and it seems the user created by the installer should be in audio group by default.
[17:30] <holstein> astraljava: and the live user too?
[17:31] <astraljava> I don't know, but maybe.
[17:31] <holstein> i could argure audio and video, though i know the security risks are valid
[17:31] <astraljava> Put an action of it for me, please.
[17:31] <ailo> It would kind of be pointless to have a live user if it didn't belong to audio group
[17:32] <holstein> #action astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso
[17:32] <meetingology> ACTION: astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso
[17:32] <astraljava> Thanks.
[17:32] <holstein> anything else?
[17:33] <len> there is a link missing in the iso too
[17:33] <len> there is no X login without
[17:33] <ailo> I'm contacting Debian multimedia team to discuss the possibility to add audio group administration as a part of installing jackd. It's not the neatest way perhaps, but if it works, it would make things easier
[17:33] <holstein> len: that sounds important... elaborate
[17:34] <holstein> though, im sure our iso is far from complete at this stage..
[17:34] <len> /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop is missing. it should be a link to the other file that is in the same directory
[17:35] <holstein> len: would you mind to keep that on your radar, and check when we get an iso?
[17:35] <len> Pretty hard not to :-)
[17:35] <holstein> #action len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops
[17:35] <meetingology> ACTION: len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops
[17:36] <holstein> ailo: i like that... ill action you to report on it?
[17:37] <holstein> #action ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation
[17:37] <meetingology> ACTION: ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation
[17:37] <holstein> anything else?
[17:37] <holstein> #next meeting
[17:37] <holstein> #topic next meeting
[17:38] <holstein> february 5th same time, same channel!
[17:38] <holstein> i cannon chair then... you want me to say its you astraljava ? and you can hand it out as needed
[17:38] <holstein> cannot*
[17:38] <astraljava> Yeah that works.
[17:38] <holstein> #action astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired
[17:38] <meetingology> ACTION: astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired
[17:39] <holstein> #endmeeting
[17:39] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Jan 22 17:39:48 2012 UTC.
[17:39] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-22-17.04.moin.txt
[17:40] <holstein> thanks len astraljava ailo craigs63 !
[17:41] <astraljava> Thanks Mike for chairing! Others for participating!