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| slons | hi | 08:31 |
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| MooDoo | hello all | 09:00 |
| AlanBell | morning | 09:10 |
| MartijnVdS | \o AlanBell | 09:19 |
| Myrtti | *yawn* | 09:21 |
| danfish_ | *burp* | 09:45 |
| === danfish_ is now known as danfish | ||
| Nafallo | morning | 09:56 |
| jacobw | morning | 09:57 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:42 |
| AlanBell | bug 884671 | 10:43 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 884671 in ubuntu-community "Ubuntu IRC operator recruitment is slow and ungainly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/884671 | 10:43 |
| ubuntubhoy | 'ungainly' a word you don't see used as often as it should | 10:45 |
| Nafallo | potentially | 10:46 |
| jacobw | hey jutnux | 10:47 |
| jacobw | hows it going? | 10:47 |
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| popey | morning all | 10:56 |
| issyl0 | /1 | 10:57 |
| MooDoo | morning | 10:57 |
| issyl0 | Grrr. | 10:57 |
| issyl0 | But, incidentally, good morning. | 10:57 |
| brobostigon | morning popey , issyl0 and MooDoo | 10:57 |
| smittix | Morning | 10:59 |
| * brobostigon installs the android wikipedia program. | 11:00 | |
| jacobw | brobostigon: a veiwer? | 11:08 |
| jacobw | *viewer | 11:08 |
| brobostigon | jacobw: a wikipedia page viewer, yes. | 11:08 |
| * smittix is playing with KDE | 11:10 | |
| jacobw | kate is awesome | 11:11 |
| smittix | Haven't used KDE since the 3. days. | 11:11 |
| jacobw | i used kde 3.5.x for a long time | 11:12 |
| jacobw | kde 4.0 took too long and gnome got much better | 11:12 |
| smittix | I have found myself wondering since Gnome3 was released. | 11:13 |
| smittix | I don't dislike it but I don't enjoy using it as much. | 11:13 |
| jacobw | i like gnome3 and unity | 11:15 |
| jacobw | i like the shell idea much better than comprehensive desktop environment idea of kde | 11:17 |
| smittix | Unity just feels a little clunky for me. | 11:18 |
| jacobw | all the shell needs to do is to switch and tile windows, provide virtual desktop and provide a way to launch applications | 11:18 |
| smittix | Gnome3 in Fedora feels solid though. | 11:19 |
| occupy64k | Gnome shell ftw | 11:20 |
| popey | does gnome shell have a future? | 11:20 |
| jacobw | -1 flamebait | 11:20 |
| smittix | heh | 11:21 |
| smittix | Im moving to arch | 11:21 |
| * smittix hides | 11:21 | |
| dwatkins | I just use GNU Screen ;) | 11:21 |
| jacobw | arch is the new gentoo :( | 11:21 |
| jacobw | dwatkins: dinosuar, tmux is where its at :p | 11:22 |
| dwatkins | jacobw: heh | 11:22 |
| smittix | Byobu! | 11:23 |
| dwatkins | I quite like the look of scrotwm, actually. | 11:23 |
| dwatkins | http://edma2.deviantart.com/art/scrotwm-dark-theme-187026267 for example | 11:23 |
| jacobw | byobu has switched from screen to tmux | 11:24 |
| smittix | scrotwm does look good. | 11:24 |
| dwatkins | I think the clock is tmux, not sure. | 11:27 |
| popey | jacobw: haha | 11:28 |
| swat_ | morning | 11:34 |
| gordonjcp | dwatkins: the thing that always puts me off things like scrotwm is the screenshots always seem to have masses of tiny dark-grey-on-dark-grey pixelly text | 11:36 |
| dwatkins | gordonjcp: this looks pretty neat and isn't dark: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10773855#post10773855 | 11:47 |
| gordonjcp | dwatkins: it's still a wall of shitty low-contrast pixelly text | 11:54 |
| * Neoti finally out of my cave!!! lol :P | 12:05 | |
| Neoti | anyone else having problems with empathy... not connecting to facebook ? | 12:08 |
| SuperEngineer | Neoti: no -- but, then again, I switched back to Pidgin yonks ago [smug smile] :}) | 12:14 |
| Neoti | SuperEngineer meh! with your smug smile!! | 12:15 |
| SuperEngineer | ... & o/ | 12:15 |
| SuperEngineer | Neoti: ;}) | 12:16 |
| SuperEngineer | Neoti: just set up fb account on Empathy ok - no probs - connects ok | 12:25 |
| Neoti | well i removed the account and readded it and i go resource is already connected to server .... | 12:28 |
| SuperEngineer | Neoti: [guessing here] remove a/c again. remove permission in fb & then redo [ again, I'm only guessing] | 12:34 |
| SuperEngineer | Neoti: oo a thought, is this a 1st time setup or is it an existing ok a/c -if new, are you using your user name or sign-in name to set it up | 12:42 |
| SuperEngineer | The ultimate message to SOPA/PIPA advocates: listen to the first few secs of lastest Linux Outlaws podcast. http://feeds.feedburner.com/linuxoutlaws-ogg | 12:48 |
| occupy64k | Have been listening to that | 12:48 |
| occupy64k | It's a sign of how far things have slid that a star trek monologue now sounds quite radical | 12:49 |
| SuperEngineer | occupy64k: words of real wisdom are their own definition... no matter who the script writer | 12:50 |
| Laney | today is a homebrew day | 13:07 |
| SuperEngineer | Whilst I had it open thought I'd just have a look at IRC in Empathy... yuk! | 13:12 |
| gordonjcp | in unity if I hit F2 I get a thing that will search for what I type in and then run it | 13:22 |
| gordonjcp | but that's in every single case wrong | 13:22 |
| gordonjcp | is there a way to tell it to just run what I type, and not try to be clever? | 13:22 |
| MartijnVdS | alt+f2? | 13:24 |
| MartijnVdS | which version of Unity/ubuntu? | 13:24 |
| MartijnVdS | just alt+f2 -> type -> enter should work | 13:24 |
| gordonjcp | it doesn't | 13:26 |
| gordonjcp | if I press alt-f2 and type then it will try to guess what I want | 13:26 |
| gordonjcp | and then in all cases run something other than what I typed | 13:26 |
| MartijnVdS | Which version? Because it works fine on 11.10 and 12.04 for me | 13:26 |
| gordonjcp | this is 11.10 | 13:26 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: what happens if you ignore the guesses, type the name of the program you want to run and then enter? | 13:27 |
| gordonjcp | it runs something random | 13:27 |
| MartijnVdS | works fine here.. | 13:27 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: that bug was fixed! | 13:27 |
| gordonjcp | well, this is a fresh install off 11.10, updated about ten minutes ago | 13:27 |
| gordonjcp | alt-f2, type "gedit", gnome-calculator runs | 13:27 |
| gordonjcp | consistently | 13:27 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: even if you wait a while before pressing enter? | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | alt-f2, type "evince", it tries to run evince-previewer | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: yup | 13:28 |
| MartijnVdS | cool | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | but that's sort of the point, I don't want to wait | 13:28 |
| MartijnVdS | is the -proposed repo enabled? | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | I want it to run the program I typed the name of | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | nope | 13:28 |
| MartijnVdS | and -updates? | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | it's a fresh-from-the-installer install of Ubuntu | 13:28 |
| MartijnVdS | please check | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | I haven't even installed build-essential yet | 13:28 |
| MartijnVdS | -updates should be on, I guess | 13:28 |
| gordonjcp | -updates is on | 13:29 |
| gordonjcp | -proposed is not | 13:29 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: I'm searching for the bug number and package | 13:29 |
| MartijnVdS | it might be in proposed only atm | 13:30 |
| jonsaint | hi all. i want to put a film (avi film) on to a dvd. i used to use something to convert it then i then had to burn it to dvd. can anyone tell me what i would need to use o do this? | 13:30 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: converting should be automatic, as long as you use a program like "Brasero" to burn the video DVD, I think | 13:30 |
| jonsaint | cheers. il try that | 13:31 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/856205 | 13:32 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 856205 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu Oneiric) "run the wrong command if enter is hit before the view is refreshed" [High,Fix released] | 13:32 |
| jonsaint | MartijnVdS, tried to use it, when i click burn it tells me somethings not implemented??? | 13:33 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: converting, I guess | 13:33 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: you'll have to convert the video to MPEG-2 yourself then. If you want to use a graphical tool, you can use "avidemux" | 13:34 |
| jonsaint | it says installing packages by files isnt supported | 13:34 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: That sounds strange, what's the exact message? | 13:34 |
| jonsaint | exactly that, installing packages by files isnt supported, then it says a the bottom about it not being implemented | 13:35 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: does it tell you what kind of file it needs? | 13:36 |
| jonsaint | no | 13:36 |
| MartijnVdS | jonsaint: even better, can you make a screenshot (alt + printscreen) of the Brasero window? | 13:36 |
| MartijnVdS | !paste | 13:36 |
| lubotu3 | Pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 13:36 |
| MartijnVdS | that doesn't do images.. hmm | 13:36 |
| MartijnVdS | !image | 13:37 |
| MartijnVdS | !imagebin | 13:37 |
| lubotu3 | Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. | 13:37 |
| jonsaint | give me 10 mins, trying to do this and cook dinner lol | 13:37 |
| MartijnVdS | :) | 13:37 |
| jonsaint | im trying to use devede now to see what thats like | 13:38 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: interesting | 13:40 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: it runs one that hasn't even been typed, I've found | 13:41 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: I can only suggest filing a bug (or subscribing if it already exists) | 13:41 |
| popey | damnit, stupid keyboard layout | 13:44 |
| MartijnVdS | What's up popey | 13:44 |
| popey | none of the keyboard layouts in ubuntu match the one I have | 13:48 |
| popey | macbook pro 7,1. uk layout | 13:48 |
| popey | bug 630203 | 13:51 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 630203 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) "Macintosh keyboard layout is wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630203 | 13:51 |
| MartijnVdS | Not even mostly? | 13:51 |
| popey | mostly isnt enough | 13:52 |
| popey | i had a fiddle with some of the xkb files in the last release and couldn't get the layout right | 13:53 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 13:53 |
| popey | should forward that bug upstream | 13:53 |
| penguin42 | popey: Marked it as 'High' | 13:57 |
| * popey files it upstream https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45080 | 14:05 | |
| lubotu3 | Freedesktop bug 45080 in General "UK MacBook Pro keyboard layout incorrect" [Normal,New: ] | 14:05 |
| * SuperEngineer wonders if czajkowski will be setting up a Six Nations rant channel? | 14:06 | |
| czajkowski | swat_: #rugbyrants exists | 14:07 |
| czajkowski | SuperEngineer: ^^ | 14:07 |
| * popey wonders if anyone can suggest a source for a _cheap_ AGP based 3d card that will work with compiz/unity? | 14:07 | |
| penguin42 | oh AGP - hmm | 14:07 |
| SuperEngineer | czajkowski: cool | 14:07 |
| popey | this old celeron D of my sisters | 14:08 |
| * popey asks on askubuntu ☺ | 14:08 | |
| popey | see how that pans out | 14:08 |
| SuperEngineer | czajkowski: ooo - so it does [adds to favs] ;) | 14:08 |
| penguin42 | popey: How about something like: http://www.amazon.co.uk/VTX3D-512MB-Radeon-3450-Graphics/dp/B003WW5ZMG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1327241305&sr=8-4 | 14:08 |
| penguin42 | popey: The HD 3xxx should work (I have the HD4xxx works fine on open drivers - but PCI-e) | 14:09 |
| MartijnVdS | You won't get _stellar_ Unity3D performance mind | 14:11 |
| MartijnVdS | especially compared to the latest few generations of GPU | 14:11 |
| penguin42 | popey: Avoid the Radeon 9xxx and 7xxx | 14:11 |
| MartijnVdS | This one looks like it landed on an alien space ship: http://www.amazon.co.uk/HIS-Radeon-HD-4670-IceQ/dp/B002EL4PIG/ref=sr_1_22?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1327241422&sr=1-22 | 14:12 |
| MartijnVdS | ATI HD 4670 | 14:12 |
| popey | oooh that radeon looks decent | 14:12 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: the 3450 or the 4670? | 14:13 |
| sagaci | i've got a pci 4670 in my desktop computer, 1GB, pretty decent | 14:13 |
| sagaci | I paid $70AUD a year ago | 14:13 |
| sagaci | msi | 14:13 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DemystifyingUnityGraphicsHardwareRequirements | 14:13 |
| popey | handy | 14:13 |
| popey | mentions the 3450 | 14:13 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: it doesn't have AGPWpcie at all? | 14:13 |
| MartijnVdS | uhr | 14:13 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: it doesn't have pcie at all? | 14:14 |
| popey | correct | 14:14 |
| sagaci | are you seeing how low you can go | 14:14 |
| popey | no, sisters computer | 14:14 |
| popey | dont want to spend lots on it | 14:14 |
| penguin42 | must replace my dad's P3-400 | 14:14 |
| penguin42 | popey: Mind you I built a complete machine for my mum for about £220 | 14:14 |
| popey | hmmm | 14:14 |
| popey | the other option is to let her have one of my revos | 14:14 |
| sagaci | penguin42: what kind of fps do you get for solitaire :) | 14:15 |
| popey | I'm not about to build a machine | 14:15 |
| penguin42 | nod | 14:15 |
| * popey looks at super cheap pre-builds tho | 14:15 | |
| popey | or a 'just add a disk' type thing | 14:15 |
| MartijnVdS | RazPi :) | 14:17 |
| popey | hah | 14:17 |
| popey | needs a parallel port - old printer | 14:17 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Parallel ports are easy -- USB and PCI(e) expansions exist for that | 14:17 |
| penguin42 | actually, a Celery D should be fine | 14:17 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.amazon.co.uk/PlusKom-2mtr-Cable-Female-Adaptor/dp/B000Q6JRHU | 14:18 |
| penguin42 | (or b&w USB lasers for £40) | 14:18 |
| popey | MartijnVdS: more moeny | 14:18 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Link-High-IEEE-Parallel-Printer/dp/B00109V6JO | 14:18 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: £3 isn't a lot though | 14:18 |
| penguin42 | popey: Having said that, Unity2d will run on junk | 14:19 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: S3 Savage? | 14:19 |
| popey | yeah, i have it running here | 14:19 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: I'd be surprised if it didn't | 14:19 |
| popey | pondering what the best way forward is | 14:19 |
| popey | they dont tend to use this pc much, they all have laptops | 14:20 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Fixing it as cheaply as possible, tell them to start saving money for a new revo? | 14:20 |
| popey | its mostly just for printing | 14:20 |
| popey | tempted to get them a networked laser | 14:20 |
| popey | rather than a computer upgrade | 14:20 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: you can buy boxes with a parallel port and a network port | 14:20 |
| MartijnVdS | to make a printer into a network printer without needing a PC | 14:21 |
| popey | true | 14:21 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PS110P-Single-parallel-ethernet/dp/B0015UGALC | 14:22 |
| penguin42 | popey: http://www.itcsales.co.uk/acatalog/ATI-Radeon-X300-128-MB-PCI-E-Card-DMS-59-Full-Height-H3823-1409.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=cpc ? | 14:24 |
| popey | heh | 14:25 |
| popey | el cheapo | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: it's pcie, pcie != agp :( | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | wait | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | it says PCIe in the description, twice | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | and "AGP" at the bottom | 14:25 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Hmm yes - best ignore that one | 14:26 |
| popey | need to call sister see what she really wants | 14:26 |
| MartijnVdS | <popey's sister> Yo, I'll tell you what I want, what I really, really want | 14:27 |
| MartijnVdS | <popey> So tell me what you want, what you really, really want | 14:27 |
| MartijnVdS | *cough* | 14:28 |
| penguin42 | http://www.itcsales.co.uk/acatalog/11-x-Mixed-second-user-CRT-Monitors-6296.html is funny | 14:28 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: ... | 14:28 |
| Neoti | anyone tried Ubuntu TV yet ? | 14:45 |
| popey | yup ☺ | 14:48 |
| penguin42 | popey: I guess it's a hard life having to test it thoroughly | 14:48 |
| popey | hah | 14:48 |
| Nafallo | popey: how many movies did you watch on it this last week? ;-) | 14:49 |
| matti | Hi Nafallo | 14:50 |
| Nafallo | hi mat | 14:50 |
| matti | :) | 14:50 |
| Nafallo | hi matti | 14:50 |
| matti | MartijnVdS: ;] | 14:50 |
| Nafallo | dear tab, meet anger. no love, /N | 14:50 |
| tony_ | Hi all - quick question - fresh install of 11.10 alongside xp however the grub menu is giving me a video out of range message - is this the correct link to fix it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/52910/signal-out-of-range-when-starting-grub-after-server-installation | 15:02 |
| penguin42 | tony_: On what hardware? | 15:06 |
| penguin42 | tony_: That seems a reasonable fix | 15:07 |
| tony_ | its just an old-ish packard bell desktop that was starting to run a bit slow in xp | 15:08 |
| tony_ | its an intel p4 which is about all I know | 15:08 |
| tony_ | Ive managed to boot into ubuntu ok - and I think xp is still there, I just cant see the menu | 15:08 |
| penguin42 | yeh, give that one a go | 15:08 |
| tony_ | sorry for what is probably a stupid question but how do I know my root is /dev/sda1 | 15:09 |
| penguin42 | tony_: If you have one disc and it's the 1st partition it probably is | 15:09 |
| penguin42 | tony_: the 'a' is 1st disc, the '1' is 1st partition, the 'sd' is most discs, although very occasionally you'll find an hd | 15:10 |
| tony_ | theres only 1 hdd in there (there were 2 but 1 broke so I unplugged it) | 15:10 |
| * gord thinks about making an "EggWatch" google plus circle and putting certain people in it | 15:12 | |
| penguin42 | eggwatch? | 15:12 |
| Nafallo | if you're in it youhave to stare at an egg for 10mins a day. | 15:13 |
| Nafallo | and then report what the egg was up to for the group | 15:14 |
| penguin42 | Nafallo: Some report on the egg during that time | 15:20 |
| tony_ | hello - sorry trying to get my grub screen working - is there a simple walk through anyone can point me towards? | 15:21 |
| penguin42 | tony_: I think those instructions in that page you found should work - they seem to be working around a bios bug (or difference between Grub/bios) | 15:25 |
| tony_ | was just trying that startup manager as I cant seem to run those commands from the walkthrough - I just get an empty file. Will give this a go, be back shortly peeps! :) | 15:28 |
| tony_ | Hi All - just reporting back - startup manager let me change the boot menu to 1024x768 and it now works perfectly. would recommend for anyone else who has the same problem! | 15:34 |
| penguin42 | tony_: How did you get to startup manager? | 15:36 |
| tony_ | had to install it from the software centre | 15:39 |
| tony_ | but after that it was easy peasy | 15:39 |
| penguin42 | tony_: I didn't realise from your original description that it eventually booted OK | 15:39 |
| tony_ | sorry yeah - it booted up but I just couldnt see the menu | 15:39 |
| penguin42 | is it on an LCD or CRT? | 15:40 |
| Neoti | anyone know of some IP TV stations/channels that i can put in to TVheadend as im building a minimumpvr | 15:41 |
| AlanBell | gord: eggs ftw | 15:44 |
| oimon1 | trying to compile something pulled from git, no idea how the author gets it to work , loads of errors :( | 15:45 |
| AlanBell | oimon1: missing dependencies probably, what is it? | 15:45 |
| oimon1 | cinnamon desktop | 15:45 |
| oimon1 | wanted the latest git version | 15:45 |
| gord | popey, nvidia 7000/8000 series cards, they support the feature set and some of them (less 8000 series, more 7000 series) support AGP. about £20 new. problem with getting older than that is the nvidia driver will start to not support them at some point | 15:48 |
| gord | there is always the open source drivers though i guess | 15:48 |
| jacobw | oimon1: can you use the ppa? | 15:48 |
| oimon1 | jacobw: i wanted to try some newer features than the ppa that are in git | 15:49 |
| SuperEngineer | hmmm... BT [or BT router} appears to be having a minor prob. signal = 82%, download speed now varying betwwen 2 & 10 KiB/S | 15:58 |
| * SuperEngineer checks outside for cracker in car with laptop! | 15:58 | |
| SuperEngineer | ....no | 15:58 |
| tony_ | ok next question - does anyone know how to get an ipod touch working in ubuntu? | 16:01 |
| SuperEngineer | bbs... logging off to switch to 3GS mobile dongle | 16:02 |
| Neoti | little help needed... just installed ubuntu 11.10 mini and i only choose to install open SSH, and on the screen i just have a blinking courser... i can SSH to the box and do stuff but on the computer monitor i just get a courser in the top left hand corner ... what have i go to install to get a login screen ? | 16:26 |
| Myrtti | does it say login tho? | 16:30 |
| Neoti | nope... just a blinking courser on the screen.... i just connected to it via SSH and installed xorg to see what would happen and still nothing on screen even after a reboot | 16:30 |
| Myrtti | was xorg the only thing you installed? | 16:31 |
| Neoti | open ssh server : xorg and the ubuntu base thats it ... | 16:31 |
| Myrtti | well xorg doesn't do much on it's own | 16:31 |
| penguin42 | Myrtti: On the box can you do an alt-ctrl-f1 ? | 16:32 |
| Myrtti | Neoti: ^ | 16:33 |
| Neoti | its in virtual box... how do i send that command to it with out going to term on my linux box ... lolz | 16:36 |
| penguin42 | Neoti: If you can ssh in, then do sudo chvt 1 from the ssh | 16:37 |
| Neoti | excellent.... awesomeness!!!! thank you | 16:38 |
| penguin42 | Neoti: So my guess is that lightdm isn't starting for one reason or another | 16:39 |
| Neoti | i was using the mini CD install thingy here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD as i dont need a full desktop gui just terminal goodness but SSH was fine... was just nice to have the vm show my a login... | 16:40 |
| penguin42 | Neoti: check /var/log/lightdm.log (or something like that) - is this a fresh install or upgradE? | 16:40 |
| Neoti | next.... how do i use the IPTV option of tvheadend as there website documents all but this tab... lolz,,, thanks | 16:41 |
| smittix | hmmm, I have just dragged an app to the launcher and its left a blank space. | 16:58 |
| jacobw | damnit, i can't download the sopranos as fast as i can watch it :( | 17:01 |
| jacobw | smittix: if you click the space, does the app launch? | 17:01 |
| dwatkins | jacobw: netflix? | 17:22 |
| jacobw | dwatkins: in gb now? | 17:22 |
| dwatkins | jacobw: yep, and the first month is free, otherwise 6 GBP a month. | 17:23 |
| jacobw | awesome | 17:23 |
| dwatkins | Yeah, I watched all of Prison Break on it in HD, works very well (but uses a huge amount of bandwidth). | 17:24 |
| dwatkins | I have no idea if there's a Linux client which will work with it, not tried. I had to install Silverlight on OS X and Windows to use it. | 17:24 |
| dwatkins | !silverlight | 17:25 |
| lubotu3 | For Microsoft Silverlight support, install Moonlight with the following command: « sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla » in a terminal. | 17:25 |
| Pendulum | dwatkins: I'm not sure if it's still true, but at least for a while Netflix was using DRM which meant that Moonlight wouldn't work | 17:26 |
| Cameron | Hello | 17:26 |
| Cameron | thanks, alanbell, everything is working perfectly :) | 17:26 |
| dwatkins | Pendulum: ah ok, that kinda makes sense, shame as it is. | 17:26 |
| * dwatkins tries from Ubuntu 10.10 and chrome | 17:27 | |
| AlanBell | hi Cameron :) | 17:27 |
| AlanBell | and hi Pendulum o/ | 17:27 |
| Pendulum | o/ AlanBell | 17:27 |
| Pendulum | dwatkins: I haven't looked at it for at least a year, though, so could have changed. I do know at one point it did work for a short time. | 17:27 |
| Pendulum | on the other hand, there is http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/native-netflix-client-coming-linux-in-12-months/ | 17:28 |
| dwatkins | I get a compatability message stating I need to be running Windows, OS X or Chrome OS, interestingly. | 17:29 |
| dwatkins | ooh | 17:29 |
| dwatkins | This is the compatability message, for reference: http://rowla.dyndns.org/Netflix.html | 17:30 |
| penguin42 | meld in 3 way diff mode is pretty neat | 17:34 |
| jacobw | i can't use pay for netflix if it uses silverlight | 17:53 |
| jacobw | too many potential problems | 17:53 |
| popey | you dont have to use silverlight if you have a supported device - like a ps3 | 17:54 |
| jacobw | meh | 17:57 |
| jacobw | i don't have a ps3 | 17:57 |
| jacobw | i'm unwilling to pay for something that using silverlight in any case | 17:58 |
| gord | also works on wii iirc | 17:58 |
| gord | i have netflix and lovefilm atm, can't decide which one to keep | 17:59 |
| smittix | jacobw: No can't click | 17:59 |
| s-fox | Hello. | 18:00 |
| smittix | s-fox: o/ | 18:00 |
| s-fox | Hello smittix, how're you doing this evening? | 18:00 |
| smittix | Good thanks, and you? | 18:00 |
| s-fox | Not bad thank you, been working on my PHPOO | 18:01 |
| smittix | Nice | 18:02 |
| s-fox | Mainly in preparation for an interview on Wednesday. They said something about a test. | 18:02 |
| s-fox | ;) | 18:02 |
| smittix | ahh | 18:02 |
| smittix | Well good luck on that! | 18:03 |
| s-fox | Haha, thanks. I'll need it :) | 18:03 |
| smittix | ;) | 18:03 |
| smittix | jacobw: A unity --reset-icons sorted it. | 18:09 |
| smittix | Anyone else experience a real slow down when dragging icons from the dash to the launcher. | 18:10 |
| gord | smittix, nvidia by any chance? | 18:20 |
| smittix | gord: No, Intel HD | 18:23 |
| gord | strange | 18:23 |
| smittix | Just tried dragging another icon and it's fine. | 18:24 |
| gord | maybe you just had a high load from something the first time | 18:24 |
| smittix | Aye, could be | 18:24 |
| Nafallo | maybe the icon is buggy. replace it with another icon! | 18:25 |
| smittix | It was the terminal which I was dragging. | 18:25 |
| Nafallo | ah. that makes sense then. Ubuntu is supposed to be useful without terminals :-) | 18:26 |
| Nafallo | it was clearly the systems way of trying to tell you so. | 18:26 |
| smittix | trying to perform sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' *.desktop'' is kind of hard without it. | 18:27 |
| smittix | heh | 18:27 |
| gord | anyone know where the disable touchpad when typing thing is configured? seem to have lost mine | 18:33 |
| Nafallo | isn't that just the mouse settings? | 18:34 |
| popey | super -> mouse -> Mouse and touchpad -> Touch pad (tab) | 18:34 |
| smittix | Mouse and touchpad settings | 18:34 |
| Nafallo | if not, I'd go for dconf-editor ? | 18:34 |
| smittix | Top of the list on the tab. | 18:34 |
| gord | "disable touchpad whilst typing" is enabled :( doesn't work! | 18:38 |
| smittix | I have just tested mine too as I have never noticed it. | 18:38 |
| gord | i really need to get a new laptop, one just for work. so i can keep this laptop on the last ubuntu release, not the development release | 18:38 |
| smittix | On and off mine works. | 18:39 |
| Nafallo | gord: just get a netbook? :-) | 18:39 |
| gord | i have several :) | 18:39 |
| Nafallo | so use one for non-work stuff. | 18:40 |
| gord | nah | 18:40 |
| Nafallo | that said. I tried to do that.... and now my netbook is my work machine too :-P | 18:40 |
| gord | 1.6ghz ooold atom or 1ghz arm machines aren't enough for my internetting anymore | 18:40 |
| Nafallo | wut? | 18:40 |
| Nafallo | what do you do on the Internetz? taking down gibsons? | 18:41 |
| smittix | I don't bother trying to seperate the two anymore. Everytime I try they end up merging anyway. | 18:41 |
| gord | everything loads slow, can't open a browser and <other> app at the same time, the entire thing is a pain | 18:41 |
| Nafallo | ehrm. weird. my N450-based one works just fine :-) | 18:41 |
| gord | i'd rather sit on my i3 2ghz dual core laptop with 8gb ram | 18:41 |
| Nafallo | just had to upgrade to 2GB memory when I started using it for work, and that was it. | 18:41 |
| * smittix has something similar | 18:42 | |
| smittix | i5 quad, 8gb ram ;) | 18:42 |
| Nafallo | hrm. we clearly use computers in different ways :-) | 18:43 |
| * penguin42 pats his i7/8GB | 18:43 | |
| smittix | I don't have a desktop. So I got this laptop to do what I want. | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | smittix: I used to have that setup; and actually you are on my old laptop - which mostly just does IRC | 18:44 |
| Nafallo | well, same here :-) | 18:44 |
| Nafallo | and a tiny mips-based media player attached to the TV :-) | 18:44 |
| smittix | penguin42: huh? | 18:44 |
| penguin42 | smittix: I have two machines here; an i7 desktop and an older laptop that was my previous main machine | 18:45 |
| smittix | ahh | 18:45 |
| penguin42 | smittix: The irc window that you're in is on my old laptop | 18:45 |
| smittix | Ok heh | 18:45 |
| smittix | I do miss my desktop. | 18:45 |
| smittix | But I never had time to actually sit at it. | 18:45 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Gareth France] Tolworth 22nd January 2012 - http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=59 | 19:14 |
| Azelphur | How do I give a user permission to set niceness without root? | 19:27 |
| AlanBell | in openoffice calc how do I get the stuff I want to print out on one page? | 19:36 |
| czajkowski | is it like excel where you select the area ? | 19:36 |
| AlanBell | I seem to recall some options in the print area saying fit to n pages wide by m pages tall or something, but I can't find them now | 19:36 |
| AlanBell | I have selected the cells I want to print, but they spill onto two pages | 19:37 |
| czajkowski | can you change the layout like portrait to landscape | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | tried that, still doesn't fit | 19:38 |
| czajkowski | you *have* to have it all on one page? | 19:39 |
| AlanBell | yes | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | found something in format-page I think | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | ok, got it | 19:42 |
| AlanBell | format-page then on the sheet tab at the bottom set the scaling mode to fit on one page, and on the page tab set it to landscape | 19:43 |
| AlanBell | if you don't set it to landscape there, but try to change to landscape at the time you print it then you get it scaled down to fit on a portrait width, but in the middle of your landscape page | 19:44 |
| czajkowski | nods | 19:45 |
| czajkowski | good to know | 19:45 |
| czajkowski | :0 | 19:45 |
| czajkowski | :) | 19:45 |
| AlanBell | reward chart printed | 19:46 |
| czajkowski | ahhhh | 19:46 |
| AlanBell | now it just needs filling up with happy face stickers | 19:47 |
| czajkowski | best of luck with that | 19:47 |
| AlanBell | I will try to be a good boy ;) | 19:48 |
| jacobw | anyone know how to scrollback in tmux? | 19:49 |
| Laney | ^b [ | 19:51 |
| Laney | same as scren | 19:51 |
| Laney | r | 19:51 |
| Laney | screen | 19:51 |
| jacobw | thanks, page up/down also seems to work as a suffix to ^b | 19:52 |
| daubers | Evening | 19:58 |
| intelhunter | hello? | 19:58 |
| intelhunter | any1 here? | 19:59 |
| intelhunter | i need help. | 19:59 |
| Azelphur | !anyone | intelhunter | 19:59 |
| lubotu3 | intelhunter: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 19:59 |
| daubers | intelhunter: Ask away :) | 19:59 |
| intelhunter | i messed up, i need to know how to set settings to default... | 19:59 |
| Azelphur | what settings? | 19:59 |
| intelhunter | i f*** up my sound, now my audio is dead. | 20:00 |
| Azelphur | what exactly did you do? | 20:00 |
| jacobw | what did you do before? | 20:00 |
| jacobw | also | 20:01 |
| jacobw | !language | 20:01 |
| lubotu3 | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 20:01 |
| intelhunter | i were trying to make my headphones to work, so i went to audio settings and i did somethin(cant remember exactly what) and now i have no sound. | 20:01 |
| intelhunter | btw i installed ubuntu for about an hour ago. | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | intelhunter: Check the output settings aren't set to mute and are in the middle | 20:02 |
| penguin42 | intelhunter: Also check the 'connector' on the output page | 20:03 |
| jacobw | try changing the output device | 20:03 |
| intelhunter | ok, wait a minute... | 20:03 |
| jacobw | perhaps you changed them | 20:03 |
| penguin42 | intelhunter: Also, on hte hardware tab there is a 'profile' like Analog Stereo Duplex etc - try different ones of those | 20:03 |
| intelhunter | nothing has changed. | 20:05 |
| intelhunter | is there any command to reset everything? | 20:05 |
| jacobw | no | 20:07 |
| intelhunter | ? | 20:07 |
| intelhunter | wut!?! | 20:07 |
| intelhunter | maybe if i re-install everything... | 20:07 |
| intelhunter | i havent installed it completely, i'm just trying it out. | 20:08 |
| jacobw | connector is what i meant by output devices | 20:08 |
| jacobw | i forgot how the gui looked | 20:08 |
| jacobw | intelhunter: so you haven't installed to disk? | 20:09 |
| jacobw | intelhunter: i.e. you still using the live image? | 20:09 |
| intelhunter | i did it to a CD, and i booted it up. | 20:09 |
| intelhunter | so i still have windows. | 20:09 |
| jacobw | in that case you're running ubuntu from the CD, do you plan to install or not? | 20:10 |
| intelhunter | i plan to install, but not untill i have found out more. | 20:10 |
| Azelphur | all you need to do is reboot to reset the entire live session | 20:10 |
| jacobw | if you've changed something it the gui it won't persist through to the installation | 20:11 |
| Azelphur | liveCD doesn't save anything xD | 20:11 |
| intelhunter | AWESOME! | 20:11 |
| jutnux | 70% encrypted | 20:11 |
| jutnux | dodoodododo | 20:11 |
| intelhunter | i still have some questions.... | 20:11 |
| jacobw | what are you encrypting? | 20:11 |
| intelhunter | is there a spotify for linux? | 20:11 |
| jacobw | yes | 20:11 |
| intelhunter | i found some bits of it... | 20:12 |
| daubers | only if you have a premium subscription | 20:12 |
| intelhunter | but does it work? | 20:12 |
| jacobw | it can run under wine | 20:12 |
| intelhunter | ok... | 20:12 |
| jacobw | i don't know anything about premium subscription | 20:12 |
| jacobw | wine is a program that runs windows programs in linux | 20:13 |
| jutnux | jacobw: My HDD | 20:13 |
| intelhunter | now, i have a challange for you, can you convince me to installing linux instead of windows? | 20:13 |
| Azelphur | intelhunter: installing instead of is a bad idea, especially as a brand new user | 20:13 |
| jacobw | i don't know | 20:13 |
| Azelphur | dual boot. | 20:13 |
| intelhunter | pros and cons... | 20:13 |
| jacobw | all i can say is .. "if it's not fun, why do it?" | 20:14 |
| Azelphur | there's no reason you can't have both | 20:14 |
| Azelphur | and remove windows later if you feel the need to | 20:14 |
| jutnux | intelhunter: If you want a system that runs faster, has next to nil viruses and pretty much the same software as Windows, wy not? | 20:14 |
| intelhunter | ok... | 20:14 |
| Azelphur | that's what I did, I dual booted for like a year | 20:14 |
| intelhunter | sounds fair... | 20:14 |
| Azelphur | and then I realised I never use windows any more, so just removed it | 20:14 |
| jacobw | what do you use windows for? | 20:14 |
| intelhunter | me? | 20:14 |
| jacobw | yeah | 20:14 |
| intelhunter | i tried to learn programming. | 20:15 |
| jacobw | if there's no windows specific programs you need then there's no reason not switch to a better operating system | 20:15 |
| Azelphur | ^ that basically | 20:15 |
| intelhunter | but python was bad... | 20:15 |
| jacobw | python is great :) | 20:16 |
| Azelphur | don't hate python :o | 20:16 |
| Azelphur | python is awesome | 20:16 |
| jacobw | where you using idle? | 20:16 |
| jacobw | don't use idle | 20:16 |
| intelhunter | it gave me error messages in wondows, and i was told to use it in linux. | 20:16 |
| jutnux | Make sure you follow a styling guideline too | 20:16 |
| intelhunter | i was using the GUI | 20:16 |
| jutnux | http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ | 20:16 |
| intelhunter | wut is that? | 20:16 |
| Azelphur | jutnux: haha, a noob so doesn't need to worry about clean code | 20:17 |
| jutnux | A styling guideline for Python | 20:17 |
| Azelphur | really... | 20:17 |
| jutnux | Azelphur: Well he's better off learning it now rather than when he is acustomed to the code | 20:17 |
| jacobw | there's no difference between python on windows and python on linux except the development environment | 20:17 |
| Azelphur | jutnux: 100% wrong. When starting something new and complicated like that it's information overload that alienates 99% of people | 20:17 |
| * popey points intelhunter at http://codeyear.com/ | 20:17 | |
| intelhunter | i know some of python, like while and if and elif... | 20:17 |
| Azelphur | If you actually want to help, avoid information overload like the plague :) | 20:18 |
| daubers | \o/ my wifes cousin is being tought to code at GCSE lavel | 20:18 |
| intelhunter | ok. | 20:18 |
| intelhunter | GCSE? | 20:18 |
| daubers | yup | 20:18 |
| jutnux | daubers: I'm still doing the generic Microsoft Office. Glad I taught myself. | 20:18 |
| jutnux | Azelphur: Well if he develops a way of doing things and continues it's going to be harder to get out of that habit than it is to learn this one. | 20:19 |
| Azelphur | intelhunter: but yea, Ubuntu offers the option during the installation to install alongside Windows, so you can just do that, and see how you go :) | 20:19 |
| intelhunter | ok, i will. | 20:19 |
| Azelphur | jutnux: and if you information overload, your not going to learn anything at all, ever because you'll just give up :) | 20:19 |
| intelhunter | that will also eliminate the need to convinse my parent why ubuntu is a safer option than windows. | 20:20 |
| jutnux | Azelphur: It's not much of an information overload :p | 20:20 |
| jacobw | safer is definite | 20:20 |
| intelhunter | yeah, i just had this PC ovehauled... | 20:21 |
| intelhunter | it was slow and had lotso' shit in it. | 20:21 |
| jutnux | intelhunter: Language please :-) | 20:21 |
| Azelphur | jutnux: have you not even looked at that article haha, think about trying to read that on day 1 when you had no idea of any programming concepts at all, because that article requires that you know basic programming concepts/terminology to make any sense whatsoever :) | 20:21 |
| jutnux | Azelphur: True, I see where you're coming from. But it's better to learn it sooner rather than later. | 20:22 |
| Azelphur | jutnux: sooner perhaps, but not until basic programming concepts are down, information overload is the #1 killer when learning a new language :P | 20:22 |
| jacobw | diveintopython3.org | 20:22 |
| Azelphur | intelhunter: as for convincing btw, no need for us to do it haha, just dual boot, give it a try, see if it does what you need it to do :) | 20:23 |
| jacobw | http://diveintopython3.ep.io/ | 20:23 |
| Azelphur | If you can get by without booting into windows for a month or so, you probably don't need windows any more and can safely remove it | 20:23 |
| jutnux | I personally run a VM for Windows essential apps. | 20:23 |
| intelhunter | ok--- | 20:23 |
| Azelphur | I game in wine :p | 20:24 |
| jacobw | there's many advantages to running windows a vm if you don't have any special hardware requirements | 20:24 |
| jacobw | how does that work Azelphur ? | 20:24 |
| Azelphur | jacobw: quite well? | 20:24 |
| jacobw | i tried to play counter strike in wine years ago and it didn't work well enough | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | I've been playing CS:S/TF2 in wine ever since I switched about 4 years ago | 20:25 |
| jutnux | I don't game :P | 20:25 |
| Azelphur | :D | 20:25 |
| jacobw | it was probably the nvidia drivers of the time | 20:26 |
| jacobw | i don't game either now, i keep meaning to try minecraft | 20:27 |
| intelhunter | ok--- | 20:30 |
| jutnux | Minecraft is good. I get bored of it pretty quick. | 20:30 |
| MartijnVdS | you like being bored? | 20:38 |
| Azelphur | what's the "proper" way to bind additional IPs on Ubuntu server? | 20:39 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: in add them on the :x alias interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | auto eth0:1 | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | iface eth0:1 inet static | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | etc. | 20:40 |
| MartijnVdS | or do you mean some daemon binding to specific IPs? | 20:41 |
| Azelphur | nah that's what I want | 20:41 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 20:41 |
| Azelphur | oh, they already did it for me | 20:42 |
| Azelphur | already set up, I guess I just have to sudo service networking restart? | 20:42 |
| jutnux | MartijnVdS: Obviously not, I should've added a though to the end of that sentence ;) | 20:43 |
| MartijnVdS | jutnux: ;) | 20:44 |
| daev_ | anyone here experienced with xorg.conf? | 20:45 |
| Azelphur | !anyone | daev_ | 20:45 |
| lubotu3 | daev_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. | 20:45 |
| MartijnVdS | daev_: I know it's seldom necessary anymore, what do you want to know :) | 20:45 |
| daev_ | I'm using the proprietary ati drivers at the moment and was hoping to use a different refresh rate. at the moment it's only got 60Hz available. However in windows permits higher. what would you suggest if not xorg?:] | 20:46 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: what do I do to reload /etc/network/interfaces? | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: 2 options | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: (a) restart networking service | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: (b) ifup name_of_newly_added_interface | 20:47 |
| MartijnVdS | (ifup eth0:1) | 20:47 |
| Azelphur | ah, B sounds good then I don't interrupt the connection | 20:47 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: or not, doing sudo ifup eth1:0 and it's saying "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" "Failed to bring up eth1:1." | 20:48 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | :0 isn't valid | 20:49 |
| Azelphur | same issue with :1 | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | you should start with :1 | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: can you pastebin the file? | 20:49 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: http://pastebin.com/4Nh1eU9T | 20:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ah yes | 20:50 |
| MartijnVdS | you should start with :1 | 20:50 |
| MartijnVdS | and not use :0 at all | 20:50 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: bumped them all up 1, same issue | 20:51 |
| Azelphur | oh wait, didn't do it right | 20:51 |
| MartijnVdS | you can use | 20:51 |
| MartijnVdS | ifup -a | 20:51 |
| MartijnVdS | to do all at once | 20:51 |
| MartijnVdS | (all marked "auto") | 20:51 |
| Azelphur | yea, same issue it won't bring up eth1:* | 20:51 |
| Azelphur | I bumped all the auto and iface lines up 1 so there's no eth1:0 any more | 20:52 |
| MartijnVdS | Then you might need to restart networking (use screen!) | 20:52 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: a little worrying, if I break networking access I have to pay for remote hands :P | 20:52 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: hmm | 20:52 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: can you pastebin ifconfig -a | 20:53 |
| Azelphur | http://paste.ubuntu.com/813559/ | 20:53 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: also I don't think :0 is invalid, my old server uses :0 :p | 20:54 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: :0 is specialish though | 20:54 |
| Azelphur | *shrug* | 20:54 |
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| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: and can your pastebin "ifup -a" ? | 20:55 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/813563/ | 20:56 |
| MartijnVdS | cool | 20:56 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: what if you do: | 20:56 |
| MartijnVdS | ifconfig eth1:1 ip.address.1 netmask net.mask.1 | 20:57 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: with up on the end? sudo ifconfig eth1:1 74.91.116.115 netmask 255.255.255.0 up | 20:58 |
| Azelphur | without up it does nothing, with up it says SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address | 20:58 |
| MartijnVdS | no, up is not necessary | 20:58 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm | 20:58 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: "ip addr" and "ip route" | 20:59 |
| MartijnVdS | what do thay say? | 20:59 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/813567/ | 20:59 |
| MartijnVdS | you already have the addresses assigned :) | 21:00 |
| MartijnVdS | on eth1 | 21:00 |
| Azelphur | how does that madness even work xD | 21:00 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: there are 2 ways to add addresses to an interface | 21:00 |
| Azelphur | I see no eth1:1 in ifconfig | 21:00 |
| MartijnVdS | the old style: | 21:00 |
| MartijnVdS | ifconfig, with alias interfaces (":x") | 21:00 |
| MartijnVdS | ip addr, with just the normal interface ("secondary" addresses in ip addr output) | 21:01 |
| MartijnVdS | I don't know how the first method is supported in /e/n/i | 21:01 |
| Azelphur | me either o.O | 21:01 |
| MartijnVdS | but the "aliases" method IS supported, using :x notation as you've added | 21:01 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: ip addr del 74.91.116.115/24 dev eth1 | 21:01 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: I didn't add that, it was there by default | 21:01 |
| Azelphur | so since they appear to be there and working, I'll just guess "datacenter people did dark magic, don't touch it" | 21:02 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: then ifup eth1:x (where x = interface alias number with that ip) | 21:02 |
| MartijnVdS | you never did 'ip addr add'? | 21:02 |
| MartijnVdS | nothing in ~/.bash_history? | 21:02 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: haha yea, I see them doing it :) | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: people using vi, I don't use vi, and messing with /etc/network/interfaces, upstream must have sorted it :p | 21:03 |
| AlanBell | hmm, broken my unity3d again :( | 21:04 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: OK, so don't touch it ;) | 21:04 |
| Azelphur | indeed, didn't realise they'd done it, I didn't even know you could do that without it showing up in ifconfig on the :x interfaces | 21:04 |
| Azelphur | dark upstream voodoo >.< | 21:04 |
| MartijnVdS | nah | 21:05 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: http://andys.org.uk/bits/2010/02/24/iproute2-life-after-ifconfig/ | 21:06 |
| Azelphur | fun :) | 21:07 |
| Azelphur | Speaking of up upstream voodoo, they just upgraded their SLA, basically it's 100% everything | 21:07 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: even better: http://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/ | 21:07 |
| Azelphur | fun | 21:08 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: good guide to learn :) | 21:08 |
| Azelphur | Indeed | 21:09 |
| Azelphur | https://www.nfoservers.com/sla.php I quite like this SLA :D | 21:09 |
| MartijnVdS | gamers.. ;) | 21:10 |
| Azelphur | well hey, it is a game server, and they do seem to have their stuff in order | 21:10 |
| === issyl0_ is now known as issyl- | ||
| === issyl- is now known as issyl0 | ||
| jutnux | 90% done \o/ | 21:25 |
| MartijnVdS | issyl0: having an irc identity crisis? :) | 21:25 |
| issyl0 | Yes. | 21:26 |
| jutnux | popey: That exopc tab looks nice. | 21:26 |
| jacobw | does anyone have experience with apacheds? | 21:28 |
| MartijnVdS | jacobw: what's that? | 21:30 |
| popey | nah, looks rubbish jutnux ☺ | 21:31 |
| jacobw | apache's ldap server | 21:37 |
| jacobw | the documentation for openldap is a bit sparse | 21:38 |
| MartijnVdS | the documentation for any ldap is sparse | 21:40 |
| AlanBell | heh, thought I had some weird audio bug going on, but it turned out to be orca in scottish accent mode | 21:58 |
| * AlanBell blames gordonjcp | 21:59 | |
| MartijnVdS | hhaha | 22:00 |
| gordonjcp | haha | 22:06 |
| gordonjcp | wiznae meee | 22:06 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: I've just watched a few episodes of "Burnistoun" | 22:07 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: it helps with reading that :) | 22:07 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: I don't have a "Scottish accent" particularly | 22:08 |
| MartijnVdS | what do you have then? :) | 22:08 |
| gordonjcp | depends who you ask | 22:09 |
| gordonjcp | some people think I sound Scottish, some think I sound English | 22:10 |
| MartijnVdS | Scenglish | 22:10 |
| gordonjcp | then there are the weird outliers who think I'm Canadian or Norwegian | 22:10 |
| MartijnVdS | don't they mean Glaswegian then ;) | 22:12 |
| gordonjcp | I definitely don't sound Glaswegian | 22:14 |
| Pendulum | you definitely don't sound Canadian either | 22:17 |
| Pendulum | (can't vouch for Norwegian as I'm not sure I have anything to compare to) | 22:17 |
| gordonjcp | no | 22:17 |
| gordonjcp | well, one of my friends who is Danish says she can see how people might think I was Norwegian | 22:18 |
| Pendulum | gordonjcp: Charlotte? | 22:18 |
| gordonjcp | yeah | 22:18 |
| Pendulum | I'm rather pleased I managed to remember that :) | 22:19 |
| christel | there's apparently somewhere in scotland where the accent (and bastardisation of some words) sound very much like norwegian | 22:31 |
| christel | i cant remember where mind | 22:32 |
| christel | Pendulum: i'm norwegian! :P | 22:32 |
| * bigcalm runs around in a blind panic | 22:34 | |
| bigcalm | Oh, I there | 22:34 |
| bigcalm | Is there a reliable MS Project viewer for Linux? | 22:41 |
| ali1234 | popey: how did you do minecraft screencasts? | 22:56 |
| ali1234 | it just ocured to me, you said that your scripts only work with nouveau | 22:56 |
| ali1234 | but minecraft doesn't work with nouveau | 22:56 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't work particularly well with intel graphics either | 22:57 |
| bigcalm | I need to map work flows. Suggested app? | 23:18 |
| bigcalm | Open Office Draw apparently | 23:21 |
| mgdm | http://pencil.evolus.vn/en-US/Home.aspx I read about this yesterday | 23:26 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| ali1234 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/865672 | 23:42 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 865672 in unity (Ubuntu) "Adobe flash settings 'allow-deny' dialogue does not respond" [Medium,Confirmed] | 23:42 |
| ali1234 | everyone go click "me to" on this if you use compiz or unity 3d | 23:42 |
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