[00:21] howdy [00:23] hows it going? [00:24] reading http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?_r=2&hp [00:29] pretty interesting [00:32] thttp://magnatune.com/artists/albums/saros-labyrinth/ [00:32] Bah, http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/saros-labyrinth/ [00:33] Good soundtrack-ish music [00:36] Where is everyone from? [00:36] Michigan. :) [00:37] Most of us are from the Metro-Detroit area. [00:39] grand rapids [00:47] im close to waterford [00:47] lotus lake [00:47] cool, I'm not far from there [00:48] we have a small island here on the lake [00:48] about 2.5 acres [00:50] whewre are you rick_h [00:50] you live on an island? [00:51] cpnangil: in clarkston [00:51] its a small island in lotus lake yep brousch [00:51] that is cool [00:53] its a perfect getaway in paradise but its still close enough to everything [01:05] detroit [03:27] Just watched Star Wars Uncut [03:27] Some very good moments [03:27] and some incredibly strange moments [03:32] snap-l++ [14:41] g'morning [14:42] party [14:42] Apparently according to some of our blog spam, you can stroke a cat witout being expected to have sex. [14:42] wise words. [15:19] well then i was lied to [19:37] Working on the next OMC [19:37] brousch: You'll be happy with this one [19:37] no new artists, no new albums [19:37] It's called "Catchup, Must've Heard, and Relish" [21:12] too much red! http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlight.do;jsessionid=C091D4FD377FFCAC2B2C3D6A62028FEA.web2:8009?id=252479596&airlineCode=CO&flightNumber=5437 [21:13] ouch [21:14] yeah [21:38] Status: Scheduled - Delayed 215 minutes [21:38] getting worse! [21:40] double ouch [21:42] man 3+, hours? what happened? [21:43] The first weeks of programming classes always suck [21:44] weather, apparently [21:44] "Do this incredibly simple task 5 times, but you cannot use loops" [21:57] interesting, no loops allowed eh? [21:57] do this thing you'd never do lol [22:05] heh, reminds me of my little brother's class in programming. he had to do something to the numbers 1 through 10, so he used a for loop. [22:05] the professor took off points because they hadn't learned for loops yet; he was supposed to use a while loop [22:06] The questions say "using only the topics covered in class." [22:06] So I can use if's, but not elses [22:06] and definitely no elsifs [22:07] and definitely not loops [22:07] wow [22:07] definitely not a fan of personalized learning, eh? [22:07] Negative [22:08] I added comments in the code about how much easier it would be with loops. [22:09] this is when you can get creative, and use tail recursion :) [22:10] Hah, no loops but break out the recursion [22:15] Had to remember how modulus worked [22:16] for separating integers off of a 5 digit number [22:16] bastards mixing math in my programming =P [22:16] hah [22:16] Should've put the solution in using regular expressions but just commented it all out [22:17] definitely not used to Java's strange case sensitivity rules though [22:17] System.out.println being valid where system.out.println is invalid and etc [22:20] more Rowan photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/tags/rowan/ [22:20] :) [22:21] Woot! I someone miss the little guy this weekend? [22:22] a lot [22:25] Hah looks like dad's making great use of the bjorn [22:27] oh yeah, that's Dad's job [22:28] is the 49ers game on? twitter is down. [22:30] Man [22:30] that greg-g guy, looks like such a hippy [22:30] not yet greg-g [22:30] hippie* [22:30] He's just hiding the baby's tie-dye jumpsuit from the rest of us. [22:34] :) [22:35] no 49ers hasn't started yet 6:30pm EST [22:36] Joe Brockmeier says grandchildren are CaaS. [22:36] Children as a Service. [22:36] harder to scale up, though [22:37] NetBeans makes me angry. [22:37] use vim [22:37] Forced to use NetBeans as well. =( [22:38] forced? how can they tell? What do you submit? [22:38] Or, well, "Strongly encouraged" [22:38] * greg-g nods [22:38] You zip the netbeans generated project directory [22:38] And send it off through the intertubes. [22:47] i can't believe netbeans is still around [22:48] I cant believe that they require me to take Java =P [22:51] get annew school [22:52] we were just talking about netbeans at CHC detroit. apparently it isn't terrible now [22:53] it's owned by oracle, so i find that nearly impossible to believe [22:53] actually it was nice when i last used it in 2006 [23:12] Our new ERP system runs on Oracle. [23:14] tjagoda: I hope you got a nice lunch out of the deal [23:15] The system itself is quite good despite the pain and suffering it runs on. [23:21] I need to learn a language to a solid degree, and then write a CMS system specifically designed for IT [23:21] Because I want one and nothing that exists suits my needs [23:23] you've tried them all? [23:23] I haven't found one which wasn't geared for mostly sales thusfar [23:26] And you've written a CMS in the past? [23:28] I have written absolutely zero in the past. [23:29] Are you insinuating that my complete and utter lack of experience will obstruct my product of perfection?! =P [23:40] anyone on G+? do you see me hosting a hangout? [23:41] I can't figure out the difference between a hangout with extras and a normal one as far as visibility [23:41] rick_h: no, i don't see you hosting one [23:41] bah [23:43] ok, so if you do with extras it seems you have to invite via email/chat [23:43] and can't just "be hanging out"