[03:11] <bkerensa> Tgonza
[03:11] <bkerensa> Im here
[03:11] <bkerensa> c_smith: You were unable to help Tgonza connect to znc? :P
[04:23] <bkerensa> slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812656/   =/
[06:18] <c_smith> yellow
[07:45] <Tgonza> hello all
[07:49] <TRAVISg> I think I have done it!!!!1 BWAAA HAAAA HAAAAA
[07:50] <TRAVISg> * Bows deeply in appreciation of all that c_smith and bkerensa have done to make this magic moment possible
[11:09] <bkerensa> its all good
[11:09]  * bkerensa is doing some Debian work 
[17:05] <bkerensa> kees: You about?
[18:16] <kees> bkerensa: here now, sup?
[19:44] <bkerensa> kees: Ahh I was trying to package something new and in the end I found out a few depends are no longer in the Ubuntu repos so I guess Im going to abandon hope of packaging because I dont wanna also package the depends
[19:44] <kees> heh, d'oh
[19:44] <kees> out of curiosity, what is/was it?
[19:45] <bkerensa> Tux the Penguin: A quest for herring
[19:45] <bkerensa> :)
[19:46]  * bkerensa is trying to find a package thats not to complicated to package (something from needs-packing)
[19:46] <bkerensa> Every package I find though has some crazy dependencies
[19:46] <kees> yeah, it can be frustrating.
[19:47] <kees> what are the missing deps?
[19:54] <bkerensa> kees: libplib and libglut3
[19:54] <bkerensa> :D
[19:54] <bkerensa> and their -dev's
[20:02] <bkerensa> kees: Wait for some reason now I found them :( earlier it was telling me packages not found
[20:02] <kees> I was going to say, those sound very familiar.
[20:03] <kees> bkerensa: do you know about "dh_make" ? I like that for jump-starting new packages
[20:06] <bkerensa> kees: Thats what I'm using :)
[20:07] <bkerensa> I'm down to debuild
[20:07] <bkerensa> I got my debian files sorted but now just one last error
[20:07] <bkerensa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/813513/
[20:08] <kees> err, that's rather contentless. weird; nothing else?
[20:08]  * kees is learning django today
[20:09] <bkerensa> nothing but I just uncommented so it will show verbose
[20:10] <bkerensa> here is with verbose:
[20:10] <bkerensa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/813517/
[20:13] <kees> hrm, looks like something wasn't found during the build
[20:14] <kees> google show any similar errors?
[20:15] <bkerensa> not that I can find
[20:15] <bkerensa> :D
[20:19] <kees> can you find references to things defining jsJoystick ?
[20:31] <bkerensa> I found a solution
[20:31] <bkerensa> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-games-33/cant-install-tux-a-quest-for-herring-%2Acry%2A-%5B-%2Asob%2A-make-problems-229483/
[20:31] <bkerensa> but if I made the change in source would I still be able to package for Ubuntu?
[20:32] <kees> wow those are old posts
[20:32] <kees> absolutely -- packages that include patches to upstream are very common
[20:32] <kees> if you're using source format 3 (which should be the default) these changes will automatically get extracted to debian/patches for you
[20:33]  * bkerensa is just trying to find which file in source they speak of
[20:33] <bkerensa> :D
[20:33] <kees> (and should be renamed (and the debian/patches/series file updated too) to give some idea about what the change was)
[20:33] <kees> it seems like the main change is the "-lplibjs" bit. seems like a some joystick library is missing?
[20:33] <bkerensa> indeed
[22:12] <slangasek> huh, busy channel this weekend
[22:12] <slangasek> bkerensa: what's your concern with apt-get upgrade holding packages back?  that's what apt-get upgrade does; the question is, what does 'apt-get dist-upgrade' want to remove that you don't want it to? :)
[22:24] <c_smith> yellow
[22:25] <c_smith> in other words, Hello
[23:31] <kees> btw, for anyone running oneiric and can't wait 2 days for official kernel updates: http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2012/01/22/fixing-vulnerabilities-with-systemtap/