[00:00] <Lirth> Where can I get a transcript of these conversations so I don't forget how to do things?
[00:00] <ActionPa1snip> share: ok and the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod      Thanks
[00:00] <share> pm = power management?
[00:00] <ActionPa1snip> !logs | Lirth
[00:01] <ActionPa1snip> share: I'd imagine so
[00:01] <Lirth> ActionPa1snip: thanks
[00:01] <gadak1> Anyone has Experience for submittion linux kernel patchs?
[00:02] <ActionPa1snip> gadak1: report a bug and then post your patch as a fix
[00:02] <ActionPa1snip> gadak1: and/or you could ask in #kernel
[00:02] <yumbo> ActionPa1snip, happen to be familiar with gnome mplayer?
[00:03] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: I use it, wassup?
[00:03] <yumbo> ActionPa1snip, wondered if the "resize" area could be removed when in fullscreen (embedded video)
[00:03] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: not sure really
[00:04] <yumbo> that thing in the bottom right: http://i.imgur.com/UrWkZ.png
[00:04] <Lirth> What is this channel called for logs?
[00:04] <yumbo> Lirth, you mean #ubuntu ?
[00:05] <Lirth> yumbo: that file isn't there. The closest is #ubuntu+1
[00:05] <yumbo> Lirth, it is there
[00:05] <gadak1> Action have you submitted any patches ever>? i need some basic help and #kernel community is not so responsive as ubuntu so im here
[00:05] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: let me see
[00:06] <yumbo> Lirth, sort the filelist on size (click "Size")
[00:06] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: could use a dark gnome-mplayer theme
[00:06] <hiltonmagk> Can anyone help me with a x11vnc question?
[00:06] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: or could try the mplayer daily ppa build, see if it sorts it
[00:06] <Lirth> yumbo: Looks like I can't find things, sorry.
[00:07] <ActionPa1snip> gadak1: never had to. My hardware always works 100% with Linux. i buy it to be so
[00:07] <yumbo> ActionPa1snip, I guess it's gnome mplayer's gui and not the mplayer rendering thats faulty in this case
[00:07] <yumbo> I'll ask the gnome team later
[00:08] <hiddensoul> gadak1, try lkml.org
[00:08] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: the ppa may help, if not you can use a dark theme and it should go
[00:09] <OKTOKT> I'm having some issues getting eth0 to link up to the network. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11630323#post11630323 anything else I could try to troubleshoot?
[00:09] <arthurdent> how does windows handle WPA enterprice certificate validation that ubuntu can't do...
[00:09] <gnate> Anyone have any ideas on how to resolve a display bug since the last Ubuntu kernel update uname -a: HP-EliteBook-8440p 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:44:42 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:10] <yumbo> gnate, what's the bug?
[00:11] <gnate> @yumbo My laptop display backlight is on but there is no desktop
[00:11] <share> ActionPa1snip: http://pastebin.com/GyGh9KGH
[00:11] <yumbo> gnate, what do you see then?
[00:11] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: I suggest you run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a     and add that to the entry
[00:12] <ActionPa1snip> share: thanks
[00:13] <ActionPa1snip> share: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable;  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    reboot to test
[00:13] <share> -.-
[00:13] <ActionPa1snip> share: Maverick is EOL in April so I'd think about upgrading soon
[00:13] <share> didnt happen before
[00:13] <share> until I Messed up with PPA
[00:14] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Thanks!
[00:14] <yumbo> gnate, if the screen is blank, do this: press Control+Alt+F1, log in and then type: "sudo lightdm start"
[00:14] <share> ActionPa1snip: why the hell I would add ricotz ppa
[00:16] <share> hate pulseaudio
[00:17] <ActionPa1snip> share: it has a later build of Alsa which can help
[00:17] <ActionPa1snip> share: pulse is in a default install
[00:18] <ActionPa1snip> share: plus the packages you have installed will only be upgraded, so if you don't have pulse installed it won't be upgraded will it, think about it
[00:19] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: also try:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[00:19] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: make sure you have the lights flashing on the interface itself on both sides of the cable too
[00:19] <alazyworkaholic> If all I have is busybox & I want to start a simple script, like swapon -a, what would I have to do?
[00:19] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: No lights on either end.
[00:19] <alazyworkaholic> what would the script look like?
[00:20] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: strange, should be
[00:21] <ActionPa1snip> alazyworkaholic: i'd add it above the exit 0 line in /etc/rc.local  and it will run
[00:22] <hiltonmagk> how do you vnc into a ubuntu server without a monitor?
[00:22] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: I would have to agree with you on that. I'd like to be able to narrow this down to a Hardware/Software issue. I'm hoping to exaust the software side first.
[00:22] <gnate> Has anyone else experienced an issue with their laptop monitor no longer working since the last Ubuntu kernel update (HP-EliteBook-8440p 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:44:42 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux)
[00:23] <Lirth> gnate: Do you have multiple monitors set up for that computer?
[00:23] <gnate> I do at the moment
[00:23] <Lirth> gnate: Have you tried the displays settings?
[00:24] <gnate> I have tried booting it without the monitor (works with nomodeset) but I cannot even get it back by turning it off and then back on
[00:24] <joeWoyshner> #join moodle.dyc.edu -p 9111
[00:25] <Lirth> gnate: so you have or have not used the Displays setting? I'm confused.
[00:25] <gnate> I've tried turning the monitor off with xrandr (the backlight turns off) then back on with xrandr (backlight turns back on but does not display the desktop)
[00:26] <gnate> I have tried with the display settings and with xrandr
[00:26] <Lirth> gnate: On my hp laptop there is a button to adjust displays on f4. Do you have the same?
[00:26] <troublebrewing> I have a large black bar on the left of my screen when using lxde and xfce under ubuntu 11.10
[00:26] <OerHeks> gnate did you try the FN key to toggle monitor = extern = monitor + extern ?
[00:27] <gnate> I'll give it a shot
[00:27] <androidbruce> i can't see my machine from my Windows box. and I have samba installed and running
[00:27] <androidbruce> i was able to see it once
[00:27] <androidbruce> but now nothing
[00:27] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: do you know the lan cable is good?
[00:27] <hiltonmagk>  need some help with x11vnc I can't get connected after a reboot with no monitor, but before it worked
[00:28] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: if you run: smbtree  on the samba server, do you see the shares? Is the samba service started?
[00:28] <alazyworkaholic> If anyone has experience with Tomato router firmware, please PM me.
[00:28] <Emery> So can anyone tell me how to use root on ubuntu ?
[00:28] <gnate> No such luck
[00:28] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Step1: haha... I pulled it from the working connection between the windows file server and the router.
[00:28] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, ahhh "server role" error
[00:28] <Emery> So can anyone tell me how to use root on ubuntu ?
[00:29] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, hmm weird config problem
[00:30] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, ok got it
[00:30] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, now I still can't \\ubuntuhostname
[00:30] <gnate> F4 did not work @Lirth @OerHeks
[00:30] <magn3ts> ffmpeg is only encoding at 7 or 8 fps
[00:30] <magn3ts> that can't be the fastest it can go... right?
[00:31] <androidbruce> smbtree is WORKGROUP
[00:31] <androidbruce> \\PC
[00:31] <acerimmer> !root|Emery
[00:32] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: so the shares show with smbtree?
[00:32] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: smbtree is a command
[00:33] <gnate> \NOTICE Lirth the F4 did not work
[00:33] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, yeah i don't see the "shares"
[00:33] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, smbtree shows "WorkGroup \\PC"
[00:33] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: then your config is whack
[00:33] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, do you have a working default config?
[00:33] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: what is the output of:  sudo service smbd status
[00:34] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, ot
[00:34] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: I have mine which I editted smb.conf to define my shares, if that's what you want?
[00:34] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, it's running
[00:34] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, sure
[00:34] <androidbruce> that would be nice, i need a frame of ref
[00:34] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812506/
[00:35] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: I have 2 samba users defined using smbpasswd too, as you can see
[00:35] <androidbruce> ok
[00:35] <androidbruce> gotcha
[00:35] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, i think i can try this
[00:35] <phun5tar> I'm still having issues with my internal GRUB each time I boot from my USB Linux
[00:35] <phun5tar> and I lose my filesystem of my internal linux partition
[00:36] <phun5tar> I ran the boot_info_script and have the results.txt
[00:36] <urlin2u> phun5tar, the usb is a full install?
[00:36] <phun5tar> yes
[00:36] <phun5tar> 11.10
[00:37] <phun5tar> and I have 10.04 and Windows internally
[00:37] <urlin2u> phun5tar, pastebin the bootscript
[00:38] <androidbruce> still no dice iun browsing my share ActionPa1snip
[00:38] <phun5tar> http://pastebin.com/XDLTsrZ4
[00:38] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: you will need to restart the service after you change the file. All I added was the last 3 sections to define my shares
[00:39] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, yeah i restarted the service
[00:39] <androidbruce> i can't \\ubuntumachine
[00:39] <phun5tar> I am currently running via USB
[00:39] <evernoob> yumbo Lirth fyi, 11.10-desktop-amd64 seems to have no support for encrypted root
[00:39] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, i can ping it, and I'm using synergy
[00:39] <Fujk> my firefox in ubuntu keeps locking up constantly (going dark). why is it doing this?
[00:39] <androidbruce> so networking is fine
[00:40] <ActionPa1snip> Fujk: if you run it as a new user, is it the same
[00:40] <ActionPa1snip> evernoob: I believe its part of the disk setup step
[00:41] <phun5tar> here is my fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/7GBiiXDL
[00:42] <phun5tar> I'm simply amazed that I not only lose the option of booting 10.04, but sda5 (10.04) simply vanishes just by booting to 11.10
[00:42] <phun5tar> the only way I get it back is by reinstalling, which includes formating
[00:43] <ActionPa1snip> phun5tar: did you try running:  sudo update-grub
[00:43] <urlin2u> phun5tar, couple of problems first you have grub in the windows boot partition  /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /boot/grub/core.img  second I see no boot files in the backtrack in sda5 we don't support backtrack here.
[00:43] <evernoob> ActionPa1snip - I am at that stage, and it doesn't recognise existing LUKSd LVM partition, or offer option of encryption
[00:43] <macroevolve> Hi guys I currently have two servers sitting here, and don't have any idea how to get them setup.  My previous network admin had installed an OS on there (I think it was either Ubuntu or Centos - this is how unfamiliar I am with it).  These two servers will be used to host a website as well as to host VOIP services for the website (Asterisk-based).  Redmine (a project management tool would also
[00:43] <macroevolve> be needed).  I would also need this person to help me configure security on the servers, and since the servers are run from home, would need advice on how to setup my routers properly to set access rights (I will have both personal PCs and the servers using the same Comcast)
[00:44] <ActionPa1snip> evernoob: i see, go for alternate then is all I can say.
[00:44] <macroevolve> I am placing a job ad and have no idea what keywords I should be looking for
[00:44] <macroevolve> would this be a "network admin" - i could use some advice on what keywords I should place in the skills requirements section
[00:44] <jrib> macroevolve: this channel is for ubuntu support only please
[00:44] <macroevolve> oh ok
[00:44] <jrib> !ot | macroevolve
[00:45] <macroevolve> sorry about that
[00:45] <jalad> hi
[00:45] <jalad> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[00:45] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, smbtree doesn't show my shares
[00:46] <phun5tar> sudo update-grub does nothing different
[00:46] <phun5tar> just because backtrack is what I'm trying to boot to, what does that have to do with support?
[00:46] <phun5tar> I'm not asking a Backtrack question, I'm asking a GRUB question
[00:46] <phun5tar> which is supported, right?
[00:46] <jalad> darmok and jalad at tanagra!
[00:47] <Guest36770> do ya'll know where I can go to learn more about IRC???
[00:47] <ActionPa1snip> Guest36770: what do you want to know, the protocol isn't hugely comlplex
[00:47] <urlin2u> phun5tar, grub is not breaking the backtrack that makes no sense
[00:47] <phun5tar> why do you think I'm here?
[00:48] <jalad> because you have no friends
[00:48] <ActionPa1snip> zing
[00:48] <phun5tar> ^^
[00:48] <spacebug-> Why is it that when I have nautilus handle my desktop (as it is default) and I start 'Home' the nautilus windows dows not get focus?
[00:48] <urlin2u> phun5tar, grub boots the ubuntu that is as far as we can go to be honest get the grub out of the sda1 is the second area we can help in.
[00:48] <Guest36770> lol . . . around here I guess not
[00:48] <cipher___> how'd you know jalad?
[00:48] <Guest36770> I'm new at this
[00:49] <phun5tar> I've tried installing GRUB to /dev/sda5
[00:49] <ActionPa1snip> Guest36770: you are using it well dude, you can join additional channels by running:  /join #channame
[00:49] <phun5tar> but sda5 still gets deleted /only/ when I boot 11.10
[00:49] <cipher__> Is anyone aware what compositor manages the "minimize" animation of windows? I am using openbox and it's breaking xcompmgr's transparency.
[00:49] <phun5tar> if I knew why it gets deleted, I'd consider it a victory
[00:49] <Guest36770> thank mAN~!
[00:50] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: all the anims are managed the same. You can disable openboxes anims in config and it won't animate, it will just vanish :)
[00:50] <Guest99140> hi
[00:51] <phun5tar> maybe I'm asking the wrong question? What if I were to ask "why does Oneiric delete my 10.04?"
[00:51] <urlin2u> phun5tar, me to  would help with that if  had a quick instruction, but the grub in the sda1 windows partition is a problem for sure clean that out and se if you can get the backtrack setup in their channel if you can.
[00:51] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Thanks. Any idea where the config is?
[00:51] <Xapumaq> hello, why $PATH is lacking sbin places?¡?
[00:51] <phun5tar> I already tried installing it elsewhere
[00:52] <Xapumaq> aand why the monitor goes out of range on boot???
[00:52] <phun5tar> in fact, I'm surprised it's in sda1 since I told it to install to sda5
[00:52] <urlin2u> phun5tar, you would be lying the script is obvious
[00:52] <Xapumaq> hello?
[00:52] <phun5tar> oh, I'm sorry
[00:52] <phun5tar> did you type on this thing the past hour?
[00:52] <phun5tar> I know what I told grub to do
[00:52] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, what should smbtree show me
[00:52] <phun5tar> my question is, why is it doing something I didn't tell it to
[00:53] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, thanks :p
[00:53] <Guest36770> Take it easy guy's!
[00:53] <Xapumaq> hey, why window borders do not change when i change theme?
[00:53] <urlin2u> phun5tar, maybe it's possessed. :D
[00:53] <phun5tar> lol
[00:53] <Xapumaq> ummm
[00:53] <phun5tar> best conclusion I've seen
[00:53] <Xapumaq> why nobody knows what i ask :(
[00:54] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: seems to be in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml:    <animateIconify>yes</animateIconify>
[00:54] <phun5tar> this isn't the first time I've done this configuration, either
[00:54] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: here
[00:54] <acerimmer> !patience|Xapumaq
[00:54] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, oh wow thanks.
[00:54] <xangua> Xapumaq: because you don't change the window border theme¿¿
[00:54] <phun5tar> I've got a few extHDD's for various applications.  Just pop in the appropriate OS, and poweron
[00:54] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, much appreciated
[00:54] <phun5tar> only 11.10 is giving me problems
[00:54] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812530/
[00:54] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Actually the file does not exist
[00:55] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: try:  find ~/.config | grep xml
[00:55] <cipher__> I found it *
[00:55] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, yeah all i see is my PC
[00:55] <Xapumaq> no, it does not change, even if i use advaced settings app
[00:55] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: I use lubuntu so that is the file
[00:55] <BoyOfWuHan> hi all
[00:56] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: nihao
[00:56] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, one other question. Do you have any idea where the startup script could be. It's nowhere to be found according to pages i have read.
[00:56] <urlin2u> phun5tar, I would put the backtrack on a thumb that is basically how its used I believe, and the ubuntu on the hd.
[00:57] <urlin2u> internal HD
[00:57] <Xapumaq> ummm
[00:57] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: startup script in what way?
[00:57] <Xapumaq> so what i can do!?
[00:57] <BoyOfWuHan> hi
[00:57] <Xapumaq> I HATE THIS, CMON, HELP MEEEEEEEE
[00:57] <acerimmer> !patience|Xapumaq
[00:57] <Xapumaq> hi
[00:58] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer xiexie
[00:58] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:   unity --replace    I assume you use unity. Please don't do that. it's really pathetic
[00:58] <phun5tar> I get what you're saying, but I prefer it internal
[00:58] <Xapumaq> acerimmer: f***k off wit that
[00:58] <LoRez> does ubuntu do pdiffs?
[00:58] <phun5tar> for no other reason, I want to learn how to solve this problem
[00:58] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: sorry, that's all the chinese I can speak just now.  What do you need help with.
[00:58] <phun5tar> regardless of how I'll organize my OS's after
[00:58] <Xapumaq> ActionPa1snip: ok, no thanks, im using gnome not unity
[00:59] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: which shell / desktop / WM are you using?
[00:59] <Xapumaq> ok fine, but im not running unity ActionPa1snip
[00:59] <urlin2u> phun5tar, I think you just made a mistake somewhere to be honest the OS only does what you tell it, it does not think .
[00:59] <ActionPa1snip> LoRez: seems to be in python-debian accrding to: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/python-debian
[00:59] <Xapumaq> right now im using gnome 3 default
[00:59] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer nothing I just come here to say hello
[00:59] <Xapumaq> GNOME choice on DM
[00:59] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: and what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    please
[01:00] <Xapumaq> awww ok hold on
[01:00] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer  do you know Wuhan city?
[01:00] <phun5tar> so, how would you explain the scenario?
[01:00] <LoRez> ActionPa1snip: no, I mean with apt packages files downloads
[01:00] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: nah, i'm in the usa.  moving to beijing next month, though.
[01:01] <urlin2u> phun5tar, are you talking to me
[01:01] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer welcome to china....
[01:01] <phun5tar> lol, sorry
[01:01] <phun5tar> urlin2u I'm just getting frustrated at a fairly simple request
[01:01] <BoyOfWuHan>  acerimmer but I'm in Wuhan about  600KM from Beijing
[01:01] <phun5tar> I realize I could have made a mistake...so what was it?
[01:01] <Tengas> Hello. Can someone tell me why is the GT 540 can not sync with PC
[01:02] <RyuGuns> What is the ubuntu-equivalent of the "ping" command in MS-windows?
[01:02] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I thought there was a startup.sh in .config, to use applications like feh, wicd, and starting deamons
[01:02] <cipher__> before the wm begings
[01:02] <urlin2u> phun5tar, this is not a simple request, and I have pointed out hat I see is wrong and the channel policies. We don't know what you have done.
[01:02] <cipher__> begins*
[01:02] <urlin2u> what*
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: you can put things in /etc/rc.local   and they run before the login screen / prompt shows..
[01:03] <cipher__> thanks
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> Tengas: did you add the xorg edgers update ppa?
[01:03] <phun5tar> so, a legit Windows/Ubuntu 10.04 install internally
[01:03] <phun5tar> a legit Ubuntu 11.10 extHDD install
[01:03] <ratcheer> RyuGuns: It is "ping".
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: don't get too hung up on file extensions, this isn't windows ;)
[01:03] <urlin2u> phun5tar, your liening GO AWAY
[01:03] <phun5tar> when one runs, the other is effected
[01:03] <phun5tar> haha
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> RyuGuns: ping is ping, its a defacto standard
[01:04]  * phun5tar is trying to find the source of his gall
[01:04] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: its a simple command, press CTRL+ALT+T to launch a terminal..
[01:04] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: /joing #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:04] <RyuGuns> I tried it, keeps giving me "unknown host" so I assumed it was different.
[01:05] <ewokbot> yeah linux oftentimes gives file names extension just because the name sounds like what its for. such grub.list or grub.cfg
[01:05] <Spitfiiire> Hey guys. I have an issie with Skype closing as soon as i open it. Is there a way i can find out whats causing it and if possible rectify it?
[01:05] <ratcheer> RyuGuns: That just means DNS is not resolving the address.
[01:05] <ewokbot> younameit.grub
[01:06] <ActionPa1snip> Spitfiiire: can you pastebin the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep -i skype     Thanks
[01:07] <notbaboo> When I install ubuntu 11.10 and choose for /boot an existing boot partition. Ubuntu warns that directories containing system files on any mointpoint will be deleted. So does this mean the whole of /boot will be emptied?
[01:07] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: did you mark the partition for formatting ?
[01:08] <notbaboo> no
[01:10] <Spitfiiire> ActionPa1snip, http://pastebin.com/qRMpwCkS
[01:10] <Spitfiiire> Sorry about that hadnt used pastebin before so had to register.
[01:12] <ActionPa1snip> Spitfiiire: you don't have to register, you can just paste :)
[01:12] <Spitfiiire> Ah
[01:12] <ActionPa1snip> Spitfiiire: try the deb from the skype website, you want the 32bit deb
[01:12] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, this is the dialog itself: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/screenshotat20120122011.png/
[01:18] <metasansana> attack of the clones
[01:19] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: can you move the dialogue, so we can see the partitions
[01:19] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, ok, sec.
[01:22] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: sweet
[01:23] <notbaboo> 1 of 3: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/screenshotat20120122012.png/
[01:23] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, 2 of 3 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/screenshotat20120122012.png/
[01:23] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip,  3: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/screenshotat20120122012.png/
[01:24] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: none are marked for formatting... how are you going to install the OS if none are formatted?
[01:25] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, is there any reason this rc.local shouldn't work: http://codepad.org/Byi8EKVJ?
[01:26] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: those comamands wont work as the X server is not running
[01:26] <cipher__> ah okay
[01:26] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, you're right. but the dialog still appears when i choose to format the / mountpoint and try again.
[01:27] <cipher__> I take it i cannot add startx
[01:27] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: if you are using openbox then make a script then have a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart   to call it
[01:28] <Tyler_> hi all, think anybody can help me with default umask on sftp connections on ubuntu server or is there a better channel for that/
[01:28] <cipher__> ok
[01:29] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: there is a way to add stuff gracefully but I find that way easier personally
[01:29] <cipher__> alright
[01:30] <WoC> Somehow, i cant find the screensaver preferences in ubunty unity, 11.10; could i be missing some package or so ? Suggestions?
[01:30] <urlin2u> WoC, you ave to install it
[01:30] <urlin2u> have*
[01:30] <WoC> Yes, ofc
[01:30] <WoC> But what package ?
[01:30] <WoC> Hints ?
[01:31] <Tyler_> I have chrooted users using internal-sftp but no matter what I do I cannot get the umask on newly uploaded ifles to work
[01:31] <urlin2u> WoC, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/10/enable-screensavers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[01:31] <WoC> ty :)
[01:32] <urlin2u> WoC, np,  had to look up the app. ;)
[01:32] <WoC> heh :)
[01:36] <StevenX> If I download a ubuntu iso, can I run it with a cd emulator?
[01:36] <StevenX> like daemon tools?
[01:36] <Erealz> yea
[01:37] <StevenX> thanks Erealz
[01:38] <zarbula> Hey ubuntu, trying to follow http://www.piotrkrzyzek.com/solved-creative-x-fi-titanium-ctxfi-on-ubuntu-11-10/ to fix my 5.1 AC passthough with my x-fi card, but I can't force the old kernel module to unload.  How do I unload snd_ctxfi?
[01:39] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, if it helps: if you don't know. i'd be happy to give it a shot for you and then come back and tell how it went?
[01:40] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: the partition you set as / should be formatted, it will not touch /boot as it is it's own partition
[01:40] <WoC> zarbula, modprobe -r snd_ctxfi ?
[01:40] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, ok cool. thanks!
[01:41] <ActionPa1snip> !away > MJ|Away
[01:41] <czx> why nautilus asks passwort for mounting/unmounting oartitions?
[01:41] <zarbula> WoC: FATAL: Module snd_ctxfi is in use.
[01:41] <WoC> zarbula, try modprobe -f -r snd_ctxfi
[01:41] <WoC> it might crash though
[01:41] <ActionPa1snip> zarbula: run:  lsmod | grep snd_ctxfi    to see what is using it.
[01:42] <ActionPa1snip> ceative stuff so isn't worth it
[01:43] <zarbula> WoC: didn't work same error
[01:43] <cara> hi people
[01:43] <WoC> dang...
[01:43] <zarbula> ActionPa1snip: I found 4 other modules
[01:44] <WoC> were you able to see what is using it ?
[01:44] <cara> what's up?
[01:44] <zarbula> ActionPa1snip: do I need to stop each?
[01:44] <WoC> zarbula, yes
[01:45] <WoC> modprobe -r for each of the modules listed as using the one module you want to unload and then that module
[01:45] <urlin2u> cara, you have a support question?
[01:45] <cara> no I'm just going to lurk for a while
[01:45] <zarbula> WoC: I'll try that thanks.. luckly I'm it's my Media Center box, so I'll not randomlly leave chat :)
[01:45] <urlin2u> cara, col just checking.
[01:45] <urlin2u> cool
[01:45] <__machine> i installed samba on 11.04 but when i try to connect it wont accept my username/password? isnt the default config for security = user and so any linux account can authenticate with samba?
[01:46] <WoC> __machine, added users with smbpasswd ?
[01:46] <zarbula> WoC: Same error!
[01:46] <__machine> WoC: doesnt samba keep the passwords synced?
[01:47] <WoC> __machine, once the users are added, yes if configured to do so
[01:47] <cara> zarbula, what's going on with ya system?
[01:47] <WoC> zarbula, i think you have to reboot then
[01:47] <Erealz> is there a way to make an iso or my corrent installation ? aka my distro cd
[01:48] <zarbula> WoC: I hate to reboot mid installing but I'll try that.
[01:48] <WoC> zarbula, might want to check first in case someone here has some wizard trick
[01:50] <Erealz> is there a way to make an iso of my current installation ? i want my own custom distro?
[01:50] <buhman> I installed icecat a while ago, and uninstalled flashplayer (all nsapi things seem to hang whenever a page tries to use them in icecat); and then I enabled html5 in youtube. It worked fine at one point, but for some reason I can't see any drawn portion of videos at all. I see a black box as the page loads, but then it dissappears later; I can hear sound though.
[01:50] <zarbula> cara: I'm trying to get my x-fi to AC3/5.1 DTS to function on 11.10
[01:50] <OerHeks> !remaster | Erealz
[01:53] <buhman> ubottu: stop encouraging people to use non-free software
[01:53] <WoC> is there anyway to reconfig the software center to use sudo ?
[01:53] <acerimmer> WoC: so that ANY user can install/delete software??
[01:53] <spacebug-> Erealz: take a look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html
[01:54] <urlin2u> buhman, you new here?
[01:54] <WoC> Well any user who can sudo
[01:54] <Erealz> thankx yall
[01:54] <MJ94> !help
[01:54] <MJ94> oh
[01:54] <MJ94> !bothelp
[01:54] <Erealz> ill open the links and look into the reading tomarrow
[01:55] <acerimmer> WoC: I'm in a non-admin account now.  When I request a package thru Software Center, it requests the Sudo user password.  Problem solved.
[01:55] <WoC> i have my sudo set as nopasswd
[01:56] <WoC> still asks me for pass, i figured it used su as opposed to sudo
[01:56] <NelsonM> is there a "proper" way to upgrade my Linux kernel to 3.2 in my Oneiric install? I see lots of advice to hand-install .deb; would prefer to find an apt repository.
[01:56] <__machine> WoC: the smb.conf has a commented out [homes] section it says it makes each user's home dir available as \\server\username … but when i uncomment it, i just see an actual "homes" share?
[01:57] <WoC> that would enable \\server\username which is the home
[01:58] <WoC> __machine, ok ?
[01:58] <zarbula> WoC: rebooted and still can't insmod in the new .ko file
[01:58] <__machine> woc but it makes an actual \\server\homes share as well (or instead)?
[01:58] <kylebt> f
[01:58] <tester2> Hello.
[01:59] <goof> hello
[01:59] <buhman> urlin2u: I don't come here frequently, more accurately; but if you're implying that I didn't know ubottu was a bot, you're mistaken
[01:59] <WoC> __machine, no, the \\server\home will not show
[01:59] <zarbula> NM! rmmod worked that time
[02:00] <WoC> dang... ^w...
[02:00] <urlin2u> buhman, no....just your cognitive development. ;---)
[02:01] <__machine> WoC: homes is visible… but i changed browsable = yes to no and it is gone… but when i view my home dir… symlinks dont appear as folders, just broken files… hmmm...
[02:03] <Fujk> anyone with RTL8111/8168B network card that is WORKING in ubuntu? I keep getting dropped connections on a regular basis, havent been able to use this computer in 6 months under linux
[02:03] <NelsonM> fujk: I'm working on that exact problem right now.
[02:03] <poobiebear> Fujk: I have one!
[02:04] <NelsonM> fujk: the error I see is it takes 30-200 seconds for eth0 to come up after boot. once it's up, it's stable for me. but I only run 100Mbps
[02:04] <Fujk> NelsonM: I tried the r8168 driver, didnt help
[02:04] <poobiebear> It works, mostly!
[02:04] <NelsonM> Fujk: did you? I'm just building it now ;-P. What'd you do, poobiebear?
[02:04] <poobiebear> I'm running an AMD_64 system on Ubuntu's 3.0.0-15-generic kernel.
[02:04] <Fujk> I run 2.6
[02:04] <poobiebear> The card is in an ASUS M5a99XEVO board
[02:05] <poobiebear> I updated my BIOS to the latest one available
[02:05] <poobiebear> and now the card only sometimes drops connections. :)
[02:05] <Fujk> define sometimes?
[02:05] <poobiebear> It used to only be able to recieve packets!
[02:05] <NelsonM> poobiebear: same software, but it's an ASUS P8Z68 M Pro. Does your ethernet come up reliably after reboot? and are you gigabit or 100Mbps?
[02:05] <poobiebear> It does come up reliably
[02:05] <poobiebear> It should be 1gbps
[02:05] <poobiebear> I'll plug the thing in in a second to check
[02:06] <NelsonM> there is a lot of discussion about this problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11348803#post11348803
[02:06] <Fujk> mine says: Speed: 100Mb/s
[02:06] <NelsonM> also in every other linux distro format. a lot of people are having this problem, I think because of new ASUS boards. The real problem is in the linux kernel.
[02:06] <poobiebear> Fujk, Say, once every couple of days or so the damn card will start flapping the link.
[02:06] <Fujk> yeah I read threads for 6 months
[02:06] <Fujk> still no solution that WORKS
[02:06] <poobiebear> NelsonM, I really thing that the issue is with the firmware on the card
[02:06] <NelsonM> if you have a spare PCI slot, I can think of a $25 solution :-)
[02:06] <poobiebear> the Windows drivers are just fine
[02:06] <poobiebear> but
[02:06] <snowrichard> what would be the point of a gigabit lan when my internet connection is only 1Mb/s?
[02:06] <poobiebear> a BIOS update mostly fixed the issue for the NIC on this board in Linux.
[02:07] <Fujk> so I have to update the bios too..
[02:07] <NelsonM> but you still have unreliability, poobiebear?
[02:07] <Fujk> maybe that will help (I bet not)
[02:07] <poobiebear> NelsonM, yeah. It's not 100% reliable.
[02:07] <NelsonM> I've updated my BIOS to latest. I did read one suggestion which was to get new firmware from somewhere
[02:07] <zimmer> How can I get the number of discharge cycles my battery has had from ubuntu (terminal or gui)?
[02:07] <poobiebear> How do I check link speed again? I Can't remember how to see that with ip.
[02:08] <poobiebear> And dmesg isn't telling me anything useful.
[02:08] <Fujk> there we go, owned by Mr. Peer
[02:08] <Fujk> I did this: http://www.foxhop.net/realtek-dropping-packets-on-linux-ubuntu-and-fedora
[02:08] <poobiebear> one second. Gonna disconnect.
[02:09] <Fujk> I kinda want to use this computer
[02:09] <zulax> is there a way to solve the over battery consumption on my ubuntu?
[02:09] <dimas_> guys i am experiencing a problem which i dont know how work it out..i just on the computer and then bang...goes black with some codes and frozed
[02:09] <zulax> it gets super hot as well :(
[02:10] <NelsonM> is there a formal Launchpad Ubuntu bug files for this r8169 bug? I couldn't find one. Should there be?
[02:10] <poobiebear> Hallo?
[02:10] <zacktu> i thought that update manager said that it was installing a new kernel, but after a restart the kernel version is still 3.0.0-12 generic (unchanged) -- is that to be expected?
[02:10] <Fujk> why does the fixes work for everyone but me
[02:11] <poobiebear> Hnnh. Maybe I was running the hand-rolled 3.2 kernel. I have no success with that card now.
[02:11] <Fujk> so I have gigabyte mother board, its their BIOS I need to get yeah?
[02:11] <poobiebear> Link speed is 10mbps, according to NetworkManager
[02:11] <poobiebear> and I can't get a DHCP lease.
[02:11] <poobiebear> :/
[02:11] <NelsonM> the card works fine for me in 3.0.0-14-server, but only after 30-200 seconds when it comes up.
[02:11] <NelsonM> poobiebear: wait a bit, see if eth0 comes up later?
[02:11] <poobiebear> Hmka.y
[02:11] <poobiebear> K
[02:12]  * poobiebear uses Patience.
[02:12] <JR> hello
[02:12] <WoC> poobiebear, is that a intel nic ?
[02:12] <jeremiah_> i need help!!!
[02:12] <poobiebear> WoC, the "flakey" card is not. It's an onboard NiC.
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> hello, i need some advices, im running gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.10, why lightdm launches unity even if choose gnome??
[02:13] <JR> wheres the party at
[02:13] <poobiebear> It's a Realtek onboard NiC.
[02:13] <WoC> poobiebear, which nic is it ?
[02:13] <WoC> k
[02:13] <JR> eaaa
[02:13] <Gentoo64> 8168
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> and to make the window decoration change i got to restart session/wm
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> help me?
[02:14] <poobiebear> Whatever one that's built in to the ASUS M5A99X EVO. lspci lists it as: "Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)"
[02:14] <jeremiah_> can someone help me?
[02:14] <WoC> just noticed some intel nics need to be restarted twice before they start working normal
[02:14] <poobiebear> WoC, I have a PCIE Intel nic that works wonderfully.
[02:14] <Gentoo64> funny how i read realtek and know its an 8168
[02:14] <NelsonM> ah, here's the Launchpad bug with this Realtek r8169 driver. It's *four years old* and now I want to cry. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/141343
[02:14] <jeremiah_> i want help
[02:14] <poobiebear> Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
[02:14] <Zuropazlefuf> where i need to head to get ati raedon xpress 200 drivers
[02:14] <NelsonM> (the "Fix released" part is not true.)
[02:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ME TOO!
[02:15] <cara> jeremiah_, would help if you just ask the question..
[02:15] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, whats the problem with it? cuts out?
[02:15] <WoC> poobiebear, check if bringing the nic up and down a few times manual does anything
[02:15] <oscar76> cara: good suggestion
[02:15] <jeremiah_> good. now i know i am not talking to myself
[02:15] <Zuropazlefuf> im talking to myself :(
[02:15] <cara> jeremiah_, you may be...
[02:15] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, on Linux 3.2, once every day or so, it start flapping the link. On the 3.0.0-15-generic kernel, it doesn't seem to start.
[02:16] <urlin2u> !help > jeremiah_
[02:16] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, you dual boot with windows i take it?
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> why everybody acts like im not here?
[02:16] <cara> we're just a figment of your imagination... all in this small black box called the intertubes
[02:16] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, we all are, at times, usually due to Guinness ;)
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> !help
[02:16] <jeremiah_> I want to install a few things to my pc (xubuntu 8.10) but nothing works.
[02:16] <poobiebear> WoC, Okay. I just came in here for policykit help, but I figured out that myself. :)
[02:16] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, Yeah, I do.
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm?
[02:16] <WoC> heh :)
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: umm not understandin u -.-
[02:16] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, what you need to do, is in device manager, choose the network card and in the options, enable wake on lan shutdown
[02:16] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, 8.10 is end of life.
[02:16] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, i was making a joke
[02:16] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, that should fix it regardless of the linux driver
[02:16] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, I read all about the "Do stuff in Windows and it magically works in Linux" thread, and that didn't help. A BIOS upgrade made the thing work almost correctly with a 3.2 kernel.
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> oh :)
[02:17] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, It does not. :)
[02:17] <oscar76> jeremiah: like what
[02:17] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[02:17] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: ideas about some tips?
[02:17] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm
[02:17] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, but that's okay. I have another nic which works reliably. :)
[02:17] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, i have that same onboard card and gave up on linux with it, the 8168 driver is available but i bought an intel card
[02:17] <NelsonM> gentoo65, poobiebear: any way to enable wake on lan from linux? I've never booted Windows on this thing.
[02:17] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, ok
[02:17] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, yeah. That's precicely what I did. :)
[02:17] <Gentoo64> :)
[02:17] <Gentoo64> much better not having to mess arounf
[02:18] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, wrong session as default in your dm ?
[02:18] <cara> NelsonM, there's a command wol or something
[02:18] <jeremiah_> what do you mean end of life?
[02:18] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, sort of... but this stuff should just work in Linux. :)
[02:18] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, yeah
[02:18] <Gentoo64> the problems so old
[02:18] <Zuropazlefuf> like, gnome 3 desktop (not unity), why do i need to restart session when i change the windows decoration?
[02:18] <urlin2u> ! eol | jeremiah_
[02:18] <NelsonM> my Ubuntu install failed on this r8168; no DHCP
[02:18] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: also, only on lightdm i choose gnome but it runs ubuntu session (unity)
[02:18] <Vooloo> piece of shit realtek really
[02:18] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, basically not supported.
[02:19] <Gentoo64> it is actually windows afaik that messes with the 8168
[02:19] <Gentoo64> it shuts the card off on shutdown
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC
[02:19] <poobiebear> WoC, Bringing the Realtek nic up and down twice made it work.
[02:19] <NelsonM> gentoo64: I've heard that rumor. but I've once run windows on this hardware.
[02:19] <jeremiah_> so if i got the latest would that be better?
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm
[02:19] <WoC> poobiebear, heh nice :) used to help me 2
[02:19] <cara> ethtool?
[02:19] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, 10.04 is the long term release or the latest yes.
[02:19] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, well for some reason the 8168 driver hasnt ever been in the kernel
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC....
[02:20] <cara> its been a long time since I played with wake on lan
[02:20] <poobiebear> WoC, anything you want me to try while I'm here?
[02:20] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, sound like you upgraded and that is from before your dist-upgrade
[02:20] <NelsonM> cara: thanks, don't sweat it on my account
[02:20] <cara> ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[02:20] <jeremiah_> so that means...
[02:20] <cara> yes.. I think that was the command
[02:20] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: nono, it's a fresh install
[02:21] <Zuropazlefuf> i just have ubuntu experience :D
[02:21] <WoC> ah, beats me :)
[02:21] <jeremiah_> ok I will get it when i have time.
[02:21] <Zuropazlefuf> ?
[02:21] <cara> ethtool is used to change the device settings.
[02:21] <WoC> Im kind of new to ubuntu/debian
[02:21] <cara> NelsonM :)
[02:21] <Zuropazlefuf> uhh
[02:21] <cara> I wonder if Ubuntu automated that or anything
[02:22] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:22] <Zuropazlefuf> ok
[02:22] <Vooloo> so uh, how do I flash my bios (gigabyte) I downloaded the stuff. says flashspi.exe
[02:22] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, easiest way normally from usb
[02:22] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, do you not want Unity?
[02:22] <Gentoo64> in th bios itself
[02:22] <NelsonM> lol, the first thing the build script for this ethernet driver does is remove the existing ethernet driver. guess who was logged in via ssh?
[02:22] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, you idiot
[02:22] <Gentoo64> lol
[02:22] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: I move the files to USB and reboot into bios?
[02:22] <cara> NelsonM, LOL
[02:23] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, there should be an option in bios to flash via usb
[02:23] <Gentoo64> in most modern bioses anyway
[02:23] <Vooloo> ok
[02:23] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: lol, is not that, just why the heck lightdm is loading unity (ubuntu) instead of gnome when i choose gnome?
[02:23] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, extract the bios file on the usb btw
[02:23] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, because Gnome uses Unity?
[02:23] <Gentoo64> i dont think it reads zips or watever
[02:23] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, how did you install gnome 3
[02:24] <Zuropazlefuf> and why do i need to restart session to see window decoration change
[02:24] <NelsonM> (fortunately this machine is in the room with me and not in some remote datacenter.)
[02:24] <Zuropazlefuf> right from package manager/soft center, gnome package
[02:24] <goof> a canadian
[02:24] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: no, unity and gnome 3 are different, unity on one side, and gnome-shell is gnome
[02:25] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, ok Unity is a shell around gnome..
[02:25] <cara> yeah gnome-shell
[02:25] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: for the dm, ubuntu = unity shell, GNOME = gnome-shell
[02:25]  * cara must have either coffee or some drink
[02:25] <Zuropazlefuf> and what's mutter for?
[02:25] <zarbula> WoC: so I followed the guide, and now my digital sound reciever says 'PCM 96' but I still have zero sound.  what else do I need to do, for ALSA to pick up my x-fi card's sound?
[02:25] <Vooloo> it says q-flash, update bios from drive
[02:26] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, yeah sounds like the one
[02:26] <Gentoo64> mines an asus it has ez-flash
[02:26] <Gentoo64> same thing
[02:26] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: right from package manager/soft center, gnome package
[02:26] <zulax> in the startup application, how can i make a program run even if it needs a sudo user?
[02:26] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: gksu
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> use that
[02:27] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, I just ran sudo apt-get install gnome-shell I believe there is no gnome package per-sat I beleive.
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: is gui sudo
[02:27] <zulax> thx, never knew that before
[02:27] <urlin2u> persay*
[02:27] <WoC> zarbula, you have it set in alsa-mixer ?
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: is a metapackage
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> 95mb
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> !gnome
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> aw
[02:27] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, so at the login if you choose gnome you get unity
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> !gnome3
[02:28] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, which ubuntu release?
[02:28] <Zuropazlefuf> yes, this only happens when using lightdm
[02:28] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, is the command like gksu /usr/sbin myprogram ?
[02:28] <Zuropazlefuf> this is a fresh install
[02:28] <jeremiah_> Why can't I install anything on ubuntu 6.06?
[02:28] <cara> really?
[02:28] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: yes, it's gui prompt for sudo
[02:28] <cara> wow
[02:29] <cara> jeremiah_, um you probably want to update
[02:29] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, every release before 10.04 is eol
[02:29] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: why suprised?
[02:29] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, because its so old
[02:29] <bastidrazor> !eol > jeremiah_
[02:29] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, I was surprised about Ubuntu 6.06
[02:29] <jeremiah_> I am laughing my head off now
[02:29] <cara> err 6.10 or 6.04
[02:29] <Zuropazlefuf> im using fresh 11.10 guys
[02:29] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:30] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: ^^
[02:30] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, me too but its killing my battery
[02:30] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf,  so at the login if you choose gnome you get unity
[02:30] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:30] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, install gnome-shell then
[02:30] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: yes, only on lightdm
[02:30] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, not sure of the problem.
[02:30] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, i am little confused, i want to run /usr/sbin/powertop during startup program,
[02:31] <zulax> but it needs password , so how can i pre-feed passwrod
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> im using gnome-shell but lightdm is the only DM which launches Ubuntu instead of GNOME
[02:31] <jeremiah_> Why is linux so hard to learn and use?
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: umm nevermindthat
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:31] <Gentoo64> zulax, not sure if ubuntu uses something like /etc/rc.local
[02:31] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, it is hmmmm.
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: Gentoo64: it does
[02:31] <Gentoo64> use that
[02:32] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, maybe you're so used to windows?
[02:32] <NelsonM> well i built Realtek's r8168 drivers from source and they seem to be working great. It's an intermittent error though, so no way to be sure.
[02:32] <helpplease> hello
[02:32] <jeremiah_> ya
[02:32] <helpplease> i need some help bycreating a stat script
[02:32] <Gentoo64> thats why linux seems hard..
[02:32] <helpplease> start
[02:32] <Gentoo64> in reality its not
[02:32] <oscar76> helpplease: to do what?
[02:32] <Zuropazlefuf> why also, monitor goes out of range when i boot the system??
[02:32] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, I started on open source so I didn't have any MS background or any really that probably helped
[02:32] <Zuropazlefuf> umm
[02:33] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, every time?
[02:33] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, (too many Z names!!!!) have you tried running: sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-shell
[02:33] <oscar76> jeremiah_: compared with what?
[02:33] <Zuropazlefuf> lol}
[02:33] <jeremiah_> windows
[02:33] <zulax> Gentoo64, whats the syntax like? sudo /usr/sbin/powertop -p *****  ?
[02:33] <Shadin> It's definitely different.  I started on DOS/Windows and it took time to get used to how to do things.  I use Windows 7 and Linux both now and enjoy both.
[02:33]  * cara is lazy and likes tab-complete
[02:33] <Gentoo64> zulax, you dont need sudo
[02:34] <Gentoo64> zulax, just the command
[02:34] <helpplease> ubuntu start the service at startup an then it is in the programm and going not on, (i am german ;D)
[02:34] <zulax> cool
[02:34] <zulax> thanks
[02:34] <oscar76> jeremiah_: people don't learn windows, only (mis)use it
[02:34] <cara> I thought people only break windows
[02:34] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, how long you been working on linux and how often?
[02:34] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[02:34] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: yes, out of range everytime, im not sure what's going on on the screen, only by doing arrowing i see later when display changes that it ran scandisks :P
[02:35] <jeremiah_> about a month and until now, not often.
[02:35] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, does turning the monitor on/off sort it out?
[02:35] <Fudge> can someone please tail -n 1 /etc/lsb-release
[02:35] <Gentoo64> i had a monitor that did that (old one)
[02:35] <cara> "Have you tried turning off and on again"
[02:35] <cara> Man I love I.T. Crowd
[02:35] <helpplease> some know how to change that ubuntu going on starting
[02:35] <Gentoo64> :)
[02:35] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, took me 6 months to not delete the wrong stuff and I had no computer experience, give it time.
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> ah, im trying to mak pulseaudio be system sound server instead of alsa as system and per-user pulseaudio.
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: no lol
[02:36] <jeremiah_> i'll try
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: is monitor itself protection
[02:36] <gabe> hello, ever since  I've been using 11.04 and now 11.10 my computer is really slow... I open a few programs it my system comes down to its knees really easily. Is Ubuntu now taking up so many resources (like Windows Vista)? My laptop is not old at all and it's got 3GB of RAM, which should be enough
[02:36] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, main thing is dont give up when you find something hard and go back to windows, or youll never learn
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> it happens because bad resolution/not supported
[02:36] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, did you update something?
[02:37] <Gentoo64> nvidia or something
[02:37] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: have you checked system monitor
[02:37] <jeremiah_> why do i get an error every time  i start my pc saying something about to many megaherz?
[02:37] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, i think your cpu might be too fast
[02:37] <Gentoo64> overclocked?
[02:37] <NelsonM> hmm, it consistently takes 21 seconds for eth0 to come up after boot now. could that be normal? it seems wrong, and screws up ntp
[02:37] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: yes, and always one of my CPUs is at 100%
[02:37] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: hmm nono, why u ask? is fresh install, and i didn't got the proper drivers yet
[02:38] <helpplease> i need somthing like this in a script: screen -S xyz than xyz.sh and leef the screen, that on startup
[02:38] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: does the disk have swap?
[02:38] <jeremiah_> uh it is like ten years old.
[02:38] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, try dmesg
[02:38] <jeremiah_> i got it for free
[02:38] <jeremiah_> ???
[02:38] <Gentoo64> was joking
[02:38] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: the other runs at about 30% for like 30 seconds and then they switch but it's always one at 100% and the other at 30%
[02:38] <helpplease> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[02:39] <helpplease> .D
[02:39] <Gentoo64> gabe, run top or system mnoitor and find out whats using he cpu
[02:39] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: yes it does, but for RAM it's only using about 1.8 GB out of 3GB
[02:39] <zulax> Gentoo64, I added that line, had some difficulty loggin but, but now i am in - how do i know that command ran?
[02:39] <urlin2u> ! help > helpplease
[02:39] <Gentoo64> zulax, they need at have .start at the end
[02:40] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: is too wired unless u are running it on a slow machine/disk/cd(if is livecd)
[02:40] <ryannathans> after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2)
[02:40] <zulax> like /usr/sbin/powertop.start ? Gentoo64
[02:40] <oscar76> helpplease: try copying your script to /etc/xdg/autostart/ folder
[02:40] <gabe> Gentoo64: what's the paste wetsite please? I'd like you to see the output
[02:40] <ryannathans> i could do this fine in 10.10
[02:40] <Gentoo64> zulax, no .start at thene dn of the filename in rc.local
[02:40] <jeremiah_> how am i sappose to run minecraft in xubuntu?
[02:40] <Gentoo64> gabe, dpaste is one
[02:40] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: install java
[02:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm, how i can set as system sound default pulseaudio?
[02:40] <urlin2u> !pastebin | gabe
[02:40] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: run the .jar
[02:40] <Zuropazlefuf> yea}
[02:40] <helpplease> there is no folder like that name
[02:41] <helpplease> i am at ubuntu server 11.10
[02:41] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: It's a dual core PC with 3GB of RAM
[02:41] <Zuropazlefuf> aw
[02:41] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: pastebin.com
[02:41] <jeremiah_> How do i do install java? (already tried and failed)
[02:41] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: I'll post CPU info plus top output
[02:41] <gabe> hold on guys :)
[02:41] <newbie14> hi, can someone help me with ubuntu problems?
[02:41] <Gentoo64> !java
[02:41] <Gentoo64> !icedtea
[02:42] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: and, are disk rpm good? and are u running off from cd?
[02:42] <newbie14> on some games, the screen gets all garbaged.. and some games start and then crash
[02:42] <Gentoo64> gabe, just paste the 1 top line in here
[02:42] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[02:42] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: nope, it's a fully installed system
[02:42] <mega2> i have ubuntu server 10.04 network card just went down if i replace if will it work
[02:42] <Zuropazlefuf> oh
[02:43] <jeremiah_> command not found or something like that
[02:43] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: could be the graphic card?
[02:43] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: then right click minecraft.jar and in the settings somewhere you want to allow execution and you want to open it with openjdk
[02:43] <ryannathans> after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2), it worked fine in 10.10, i just installed 11.10
[02:43] <helpplease> ey
[02:43] <oscar76> helpplease: sorry, Im running 10.04
[02:43] <gabe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812608/
[02:44] <gabe> check it out please :)
[02:44] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: try this, http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[02:44] <Gentoo64> gabe, zeitgeist then
[02:44] <Gentoo64> idk why its using 100 cpu
[02:44] <helpplease> you dont know how to create your own startupscript in /etc/ini.d/ ?
[02:44] <Zuropazlefuf> lol gabe
[02:44] <gabe> what's funny? :)
[02:45] <gabe> Gentoo64: what's zeitgeist?
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe why u got zeitgeist running?
[02:45] <Gentoo64> gabe, some gnome thing i think
[02:45] <Gentoo64> sounds like trash to me
[02:45] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: I don't even know what it is
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: do sudo killall zeitgest
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> fa
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: do this
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> pstree
[02:45] <helpplease> and i do sudo update-rc.d myscript.sh defaults
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> and post that
[02:45] <Vooloo> yeah wonderful realtek, updating bios does not solve the issue
[02:45] <jeremiah_> i have java. just cant install it. ( i have the tar file)
[02:45] <urlin2u> gabe, did you install synapse?
[02:46] <helpplease> after restart server stop at the programm
[02:46] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, it wont
[02:46] <go87654> hello. may i ask few questions fow administration in pm?
[02:46] <ryannathans> after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2), it worked fine in 10.10, i just installed 11.10
[02:46] <oscar76> helpplease: I have not tried nor needed
[02:46] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: use this and see if u got java http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[02:46] <Vooloo> so are there any other "fixes" for r8168?
[02:46] <oscar76> helpplease: maybe you need to end the line with &
[02:46] <jeremiah_> I already did and working on it now.
[02:46] <NelsonM> the r8168 driver isn't solving my problem either; still taking 10-120 seconds to initialize eth0 after boot.
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: and dl the linux self extract java
[02:47] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, just buy an intel card like loads others have lol
[02:47] <helpplease> witch line?
[02:47] <Vooloo> my computer is unusable
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm
[02:47] <jeremiah_> it says something is wrong. java is not working.
[02:47] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, why?
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> how i can open bin?
[02:47] <ryannathans> NelsonM: maybe something funky in /etc/network/interface
[02:47] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: because realtek doesnt work
[02:47] <oscar76> helpplease: the line where it stops
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> aw
[02:47] <jeremiah_> and i extracted it already.
[02:47] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, at all?
[02:47] <NelsonM> ryannathans: thanks, nah, this is the realtek driver problem we've been talking about. it's a well known linux driver bug
[02:47] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: well, it drops connection every 10 mins, so I would classify that as useless
[02:48] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: are there any bugs reported?
[02:48] <NelsonM> although mine doesn't seem to drop packets at all, it's just not coming up right
[02:48] <ryannathans> NelsonM: naww, i'm having network problems too
[02:48] <ryannathans> I'm about to open a bug report
[02:48] <gabe> urlin2u: no, I do not know what that is
[02:48] <Vooloo> so, what standalone network card works 100% ?
[02:48] <evernoob> I've just installed 11.10 64bit to existing LUKS LVM for /, and separate LUKS volume for /home. On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. In openSuse I used to do mkinitrd to fix this - how can I fix it in 11.10?
[02:48] <NelsonM> actionpa1snip: yes, many bugs. the most useful one is from 2007. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/141343
[02:48] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, intel nics all work 100%
[02:49] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812611/
[02:49] <Vooloo> I read 100 launchpad "fix released" posts and nothing works
[02:49] <helpplease> i think you dont understand, its stopping in the programm and waiting so so long to the programm exit
[02:49] <dies_irae> lolololol --> Out of memory: Kill process 5916 (firefox) score 360 or sacrifice child
[02:49] <Zuropazlefuf> ok, where i need to get the ati raedon xpress 200 drivers for ubuntu 11.10 32 bits???
[02:49] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: sounds like one to avoid
[02:50] <ActionPa1snip> !ati | Zuropazlefuf
[02:50] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, its a pita card
[02:50] <Gentoo64> id seriously buy a decent one
[02:50] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: why are you using zeitgiest for?
[02:50] <ActionPa1snip> dies_irae: sounds about right for firefox ;)
[02:50] <NelsonM> yeah, but it's the on board ethernet chip for a whole lot of common motherboards. and it works fine in windows.
[02:50] <Zuropazlefuf> what *
[02:50] <Gentoo64> 1- linux dont give the right driver, 2- windows shuts it off by default
[02:50] <NelsonM> and realtek even makes linux drivers! it's weird it's been a bug for so long
[02:50] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: different OS has different support
[02:50] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: like I said... I do not know what that is, something else must have initiated it
[02:50] <ryannathans> What package do I file this bug report on?  after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2), it worked fine in 10.10, i just installed 11.10
[02:51] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: go to uninstall that
[02:51] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: I'd just disable the onboard, buy a PCI nic and slam it in
[02:51] <Gentoo64> gabe, zeitgeist is part of gnome
[02:51] <Vooloo> I dont even know what PCI type of ports my MB have
[02:51] <Gentoo64> afaik
[02:51] <ActionPa1snip> ryannathans: network-manager imho
[02:51] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: I can't kill it anyway... where did you see it? I issued "ps -A | grep zeitgiest" and nothing came up
[02:51] <NelsonM> actionpa1snip: yeah, it may come to that. still seems like a fail though, frustrating.
[02:51] <ryannathans> ActionPa1snip: cool, thanks
[02:51] <Vooloo> http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3161/1204.jpg <- what type of PCI are the two on the left side?
[02:51] <helpplease> so i only musst wirte a command in the script that ubutnu dont should wait of the programm,just going on his jobs
[02:51] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe, the pstree
[02:51] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: frustrating indeed
[02:51] <gabe> Gentoo64: so I shouldn't touch that?
[02:51] <Gentoo64> gabe, no leave it
[02:51] <Zuropazlefuf> it runs alone + inside gnome
[02:52] <NelsonM> (I enabled WOL on the realtek via ethtool in linux, after reboot it still didn't come up for 11 seconds.)
[02:52] <Gentoo64> im quite sure its compulsory
[02:52] <Zuropazlefuf> these process}
[02:52] <gabe> Gentoo64: so is that what's killing my CPU?
[02:52] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: session proceses
[02:52] <Zuropazlefuf> yeah
[02:52] <Gentoo64> gabe, zeitgeist
[02:52] <Gentoo64> lol
[02:52] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: but Gentoo64 says to leave it
[02:53] <Gentoo64> gabe, try killing it
[02:53] <Gentoo64> does it kill the cpu every reboot?
[02:53] <Gentoo64> or just after a while
[02:53] <gabe> Gentoo64: so I should kill the process but not uninstall it?
[02:53] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe, see, u got the zeit right inside ur session
[02:53] <Gentoo64> sounds like some bug
[02:53] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: look at the pstree paste
[02:53] <Zuropazlefuf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812611/
[02:54] <jeremiah_> My harddrive is making weird sounds clank clunk clunk clank clunk clunk...
[02:54] <gabe> Gentoo64: not really at boot, but when I'm using the laptop... it takes time to load browser, folders, files, anything... sometimes it hangs up for a few seconds
[02:54] <Vooloo> intel PWLA8391GT does not seem by the looks of the image to fit into my pci slot
[02:54] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, ?
[02:54] <jeremiah_> yes?
[02:55] <Gentoo64> hard drives do make noises :)
[02:55] <sirspazzolot> does anybody want to help me out with apache?
[02:55] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, do you have a pcie slot?
[02:55] <jeremiah_> not like this... (except the dying ones.)
[02:56] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, no  idea
[02:56] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: dont know, I have the two slots on the left side available here: http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3161/1204.jpg
[02:56] <jeremiah_> what?
[02:56] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, no idea why it making funny noises
[02:56] <Vooloo> the white ones
[02:56] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: ok I killed that zeit*** thing... now my question is, will it re-initiate every time I boot up the system?
[02:56] <Vooloo> and one blue
[02:56] <sirspazzolot> is this channel appropriate for apache-related questions?
[02:56] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, yeah pcie-1
[02:56] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/network-adapters/gigabit-network-adapters/gigabit-ct-desktop-adapter.html
[02:56] <Gentoo64> thats a decent card
[02:56] <jeremiah_> du. That is what a dying hdd makes when it is dying.
[02:57] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: wow I could hear my CPU take a break now
[02:57] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: what is the blue slot?
[02:57] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, pcie-16
[02:57] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: i cant fit that card, my graphics card takes up too much space
[02:57] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: maybe, check startup apps
[02:57] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, if you only have 1 gpu then itll fit
[02:57] <arulmozhi> how can i find the dependencies of a package
[02:57] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, it should anywya
[02:57] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: the only space I have are the two long white ones and the blue
[02:58] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf & Gentoo64: thanks guys :)
[02:58] <gabe> goodbye :)
[02:58] <Zuropazlefuf> cya gabe
[02:58] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm+
[02:58] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, well to be safe get any "pci" one then,. not "pci-e"
[02:58] <Gentoo64> the white slows at bottom are plain pcu
[02:58] <Gentoo64> pci*
[02:59] <Gentoo64> the tiny white ones are pcie-1
[02:59] <Zuropazlefuf> any idea about session modes?
[02:59] <Zuropazlefuf> hello?
[02:59] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: but look at the pins here, there are 3 and the pci slot only have 2
[02:59] <Vooloo> http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/PWLA8391GT.jpg
[02:59] <arulmozhi> how can i find the dependencies of a package ??????
[03:00] <jeremiah_> Is it good that i have a pentium 2 460 mhz cpu?
[03:00] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, looks like normal pci.. itll fit
[03:00] <Zuropazlefuf> what do i need to modify to make pulseaudio system default??
[03:00] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, for normal desktop use?
[03:00] <jeremiah_> yes.
[03:00] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, are you running gnome ubuntu on that?
[03:00] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: lol that's for old OS
[03:01] <jeremiah_>  no xubuntu 8.10
[03:01] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: ok, you know what low profile means?
[03:01] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: choose a lower resouce usage linux for that cpu
[03:01] <Zuropazlefuf> umm
[03:01] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, yea, the metal bit at the end is smaller
[03:01] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: LXDE wil make your OS more responsive
[03:01] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, most low profile cards come with an adapter that will fit in normal pc
[03:01] <jeremiah_> It works great though. have any ideas for a smaller one?
[03:01] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: Intrepid has no further updates and is EOL
[03:01] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, lxde is very slightly faster  than xfce
[03:02] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: Lubuntu is super slim and mean :)
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: maybe a pure debian, and with blackbox
[03:02] <jeremiah_> what is THAT?
[03:02] <Vooloo> k, if this card doesn't work I'm going to burn up this machine
[03:02] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, just another desktop
[03:02] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, it will work
[03:02] <Gentoo64> promise
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: lubuntu is a variant
[03:02] <jeremiah_> so i should try debian
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> which uses LXDE
[03:02] <jeremiah_> pr lubuntu
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> yeah, jeremiah_  hmm lol
[03:02] <Gentoo64> lol
[03:03] <jeremiah_> or not qr
[03:03] <Gentoo64> is use bsd on something that old
[03:03] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: looks like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png  ;)
[03:03] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: it looks like a win7 lol
[03:03] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: why, because the icons in the panel don't have text?
[03:03] <Zuropazlefuf> but more wireder
[03:03] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[03:04] <Zuropazlefuf> and the wallpaper gives such a win look xD
[03:04] <jeremiah_> could i somehow just install it to my pc without having to burn a disk or use a usb stick?
[03:04] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I like blue, its easy on the eyes
[03:04] <ActionPa1snip> :)
[03:04] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, no
[03:04] <Gentoo64> not really
[03:04] <aBound> Indeed, a darker color is easier on the eyes.
[03:04] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, how about gnome's default blue?
[03:04] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[03:05] <Zuropazlefuf> im fine here with blueish look :D
[03:05] <jeremiah_> then what? i am out of disks. and have no money. I am only.... very young
[03:05] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, a cd is like 20p
[03:05] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: help me out
[03:05] <Gentoo64> you could find that on the floor
[03:05] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: do you mean the stripey thing?
[03:05] <jeremiah_> Uh i am in th usa.
[03:05] <Zuropazlefuf> yep ActionPa1snip
[03:06] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its not bad at all :)
[03:06] <Zuropazlefuf> yep
[03:06] <jeremiah_> And i cant buy them single.
[03:06] <toxrn> jeremiah_: like 5 cents
[03:06] <toxrn> 50
[03:06] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, with what
[03:06] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: do you not have a USB stick you can use?
[03:06] <toxrn> nope, 30
[03:06] <Gentoo64> toxrn, thanks for the conversion
[03:07] <jeremiah_> yes. but i have never used it for installing things. Does it have to be empty for it?
[03:07] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, yes
[03:07] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: im using right now, gnome 3 with clearlooks window deco and whiteglass mouse, icon theme, humanity dark and adwalta for gtk
[03:07] <Datalink> does anyone know where gstreamer keeps it's plugins?
[03:08] <jeremiah_> hmmm. In the bios there is no option for using a usb stick
[03:08] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, the comp is too old to boot from usb
[03:08] <Gentoo64> its very old
[03:08] <Gentoo64> you could use plop
[03:08] <Zuropazlefuf> ah, for inside areas like app toolbars ,etc it uses default icon set, and oh well
[03:08] <Gentoo64> or get a cd
[03:08] <jeremiah_> ya probably is
[03:08] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1599293
[03:09] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, if i was u id buy a cdrw
[03:09] <Gentoo64> that way u can reuse it
[03:09] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: oh, why when i change window decoration it takes no effect unless i restart session/wm?....
[03:10] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, no idea :s
[03:10] <Zuropazlefuf> that happens on most sessions
[03:10] <jeremiah_> funny. 25$ for about 50. I have 0$
[03:10] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, cant really do much :)
[03:10] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: humanity theme in LXDE (made using GTK3.2) under Precise with Lubuntu default theme and wallpaper
[03:10] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: and why lightdm haves the iusse of launching unity (ubuntu) when i want gnome?
[03:10] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, you can install with just a ISO the link has the instructions.
[03:11] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: also with custom pidgin and parcellite icons for the panel
[03:11] <Gentoo64> !nounity | Zuropazlefuf
[03:11] <jeremiah_> the link did not help. but i will find a way!
[03:11] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: lol, i got alot of packages here :P
[03:11] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: for the themes you mean?
[03:11] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: i have the shell installed!
[03:11] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, if you post on the ubuntu forums the person who made that thread will probably get you set up.
[03:12] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yeah, got many cool packages here
[03:12] <zulax> i added /etc/sbin/powertop on my rc.local, but when i login the powertop screes shows and i get kickedback to login page
[03:12] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: otherwise, how come im using the black gnome3 bar?
[03:13] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I'd make a metapackage for them, makes life easier
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: af, do not try it on login something that is not prepared/desgined for login mode
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: lol yeah
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: a bigger!
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, or maybe split it in cats....
[03:14] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, how can i make it run automatically after the login?
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yeah, metapacakges are great
[03:14] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no, you installed the packages from PPAs and such right?
[03:14] <zulax> i cant add it in startup application casue it needs a sudo password
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: add the script or whatever to the startup
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: nono, im installed from the official repo
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> i*
[03:15] <ActionPa1snip> zulax: I've gotten around that by making a script to run the command with a looong sleep, then make rc.local run the script backgrounded. Its hacky but it works
[03:15] <Datalink> does anyone know where gstreamer0.10 keeps it's plugins?
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: to startup list
[03:15] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: even easier then :)
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yeah
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: add that meta to the official repo then, based on official packages
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> :D
[03:15] <zulax> ActionPa1snip, good idea, so in rc.local put first sleep 300 and then put the command?
[03:16] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I guess, metapackages make life tones easier
[03:16] <miller618> does anyone know of a alternative to microsoft onenote for linux??  im using onenote as interactive classroom and i want to be able to do this in linux instead as it is a perfered OS of mine
[03:16] <ActionPa1snip> zulax: no, or the boot wil simply hang that long, you need a script which can be backgrounded then use the sleep there
[03:16] <zulax> ok
[03:16] <jeremiah_> should i get debian 64 or 32 bit?
[03:16] <NelsonM> ok I tried all the recommended fixes for this Realtek r8168 NIC and none work. It just doesn't quite work right in linux. Lots of details: http://nelsonslog.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/realtek-ethernet-drivers-r8169-vs-r8168/
[03:16] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: now i got some attention from you, why lightdm runs unity instead of gnome shell, it only happens on lightdm, and i have gnome shell installed
[03:16] <ActionPa1snip> zulax: the script will form its own thread and the system will continue to boot but the script will be running the sleep command
[03:17] <evernoob> I've just installed 11.10 64bit to existing LUKS LVM for /, and separate LUKS volume for /home. On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. How can I fix this?
[03:17] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no idea, maybe there needs to be a new entry in the menu.
[03:17] <Vooloo> miller618: tried http://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-onenote/ ?
[03:17] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: in any other DM it works great, troubles with lightdm :(
[03:18] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: switch dm then..
[03:18] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: are there bugs reported?
[03:18] <miller618> thanks will do i just need it so my prof can interact on my sccreen in a connected session
[03:18] <miller618> ill take a look now
[03:18] <Yukiteru> yy/quit
[03:18] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: and why do i need to restart session/restart wm? to make window decorations to take effect?
[03:19] <jeremiah_> should i get debian 32 or 64 bit???????
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: idk nothing about bug reported
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> s
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> aff
[03:19] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I'd report one
[03:19] <alazyworkaholic> How should I be able to tell if my server has nfsv4 or nfsv3?
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> i didn't even search for that
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: so idk
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: can you check_
[03:20] <jeremiah_> hello?
[03:20] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: There should be a gnome-shell entry in the cog menu, you could make one
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: hey, wat
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yes is there
[03:20] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: run:   ubuntu-bug lightdm     and you can report your issue
[03:20] <jeremiah_> should i get debian 64 or 32 bit?
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: but when i choose that, it runs ubuntu
[03:20] <miller618> 64
[03:20] <edve> it depends of your processor...
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: 32 of course
[03:21] <edve> what do you have though?
[03:21] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_ got a p2 cpu, too bad, 460mhz
[03:21] <edve> 32 bit lol
[03:21] <jeremiah_> what does that mean?
[03:21] <edve> 64 is not gonna work :p
[03:21] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: choose x86
[03:21] <jeremiah_> ya ok...
[03:22] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: download 32-bits debian.
[03:22] <jeremiah_> ok. thanks.
[03:22] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I'd expect it to run ubuntu...
[03:22] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: hmm, what's the keyboard combination for gnome-shell run apps?
[03:22] <edve> f2+alt
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> because idk, alt+f2 does not work
[03:23] <miller618> i cant find anything for linux for interactive classroom like microsft onenote even on that site
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ??
[03:23] <edve> hmm
[03:23] <miller618> i need to be able to connect to the profs session
[03:23] <trism> Zuropazlefuf: it is disabled by default in some cases, enable it in System Settings/Keyboard/Shortcuts/System
[03:23] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no idea, I don't use gnome shell
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> miller618: libreoffice does the trick_
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> ??
[03:23] <edve> try ctrl+alt+f1 to go into the main terminal01
[03:23] <edve> try by there
[03:23] <miller618> nice i will check it out
[03:23] <edve> or simply into a terminal
[03:24] <Zuropazlefuf> trism: umm, it's 11.10 gnome 3 shell
[03:24] <trism> Zuropazlefuf: yes
[03:24] <trism> Zuropazlefuf: click your username in the top right corner, System Settings/Keyboard, etc etc
[03:24] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: is ok using Report a problem app?
[03:25] <Zuropazlefuf> ok
[03:25] <Naeblis> Hey. It appears that I can't install php on my Ubuntu 11.04. I get this error : The following packages have unmet dependencies: libapache2-mod-php5 : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.5-1ubuntu7) but 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.4 is to be installed. E:Broken Packages.
[03:25] <Naeblis> any ideas?
[03:26] <Datalink> sudo apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5
[03:26] <miller618> Zuropazlefuf: will libreoffice connect to ms onenote interactive session ?
[03:27] <Naeblis> Datalink, no go.
[03:27] <Zuropazlefuf> miller618: maybe
[03:27] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: if you want, the command I gave does the same..
[03:27] <Zuropazlefuf> oh lol
[03:27] <miller618> but it has the option that u know of of creating a session to do the same thing
[03:27] <ActionPa1snip> Naeblis: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[03:28] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: tada, posted in lpad
[03:28] <Naeblis> ActionPa1snip, still not working. :(
[03:28] <Datalink> Naeblis, sudo apt-get -f install
[03:28] <StedyLfo> http://tinychat.com/aj7hg
[03:28] <jeremiah_> I have a question about downloading debian. when i got to the torrent page there where all these weird torrent things which do i click? or does it matter?
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: noticed that the icon does nothing
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> and, i lost debian menu :(
[03:29] <Datalink> Naeblis, that should deal with the floating dependency and let you install php5-common and the apache
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> how do i restore the menus back to default?
[03:29] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: what icon?
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> the report problem
[03:29] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: oh, never used it. I always use the ubuntu-bug command
[03:30] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, give me the link to the page.
[03:30] <jeremiah_> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/i386/bt-cd/
[03:30] <Naeblis> Datalink, when I do use the -f, it installs git-man liberror-perl. But still can't install php.
[03:30] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: I'd ask in #debian
[03:31] <jeremiah_> wha?
[03:31] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i lost some stuff in menu, how i make system reset it to default and put the right stuff the system haves?
[03:32] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: yeah, ubuntu is not debian, u need to go debian channel for this
[03:32] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --replace     it will reread your config
[03:32] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm, why lol, it does not change the menus, and i had deleted something...
[03:33] <hoshi411> anyone have a site with good instructions on how to get ubuntu dual booting on an asus transformer?
[03:33] <hoshi411> the best site i found was this
[03:33] <hoshi411> http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Pad_Transformer/How_to_install_Ubuntu#Installing_from_a_computer_running_linux
[03:33] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: is the same as restarting session, the things i lost are lost forever because i deleted it from edit menu app
[03:33] <StedyLfo> http://tinychat.com/aj7hg
[03:33] <hoshi411> but they don't tel l me how to use nvflash to install the rom
[03:34] <Zuropazlefuf> hoshi411: register and ask?
[03:34] <hoshi411> register? with xda you mean?
[03:34] <Zuropazlefuf> yea
[03:34] <Datalink> Naeblis, I have no idea why PHP would fail to install unless it where already installed...
[03:34] <hoshi411> ah i see
[03:34] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip??
[03:34] <rasec> ya
[03:34] <rasec> jj
[03:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: what?
[03:35] <Naeblis> Datalink, so it would say "broken package", as it is in this case?
[03:35] <cipher__> with openbox nautilus hijacks the desktop and such whenever I go to open a directory. is there anything I can do to fix this? Would setting thunar to default work?
[03:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the --replace  makes the config be reread. I'm not sure how to default the settins
[03:35] <Fudge> whre can i review the gconf settings  file
[03:36] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, yeah, that's why it do not help, that deletion was saved :(
[03:36] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: possibly https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=987505#p987505
[03:36] <Zuropazlefuf> oh
[03:38] <evernoob> what is equivalent to mkinitrd in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i do not want to reset it all
[03:39] <Zuropazlefuf> only the menu part
[03:39] <ratcheer> evernoob: update-initramfs
[03:39] <flowerpot> evernoob, maybe check out initramfs-tools?
[03:40] <flowerpot> found that by running apt-cache search initrd
[03:40] <flowerpot> you can view more info on it via apt-cache show initrd
[03:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: idea how i can make pulseaudio as the only and default system audio server??
[03:40] <flowerpot> errrr sorry apt-cache show initramfs-tools
[03:40] <evernoob> thanks, will check
[03:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip?
[03:41] <Emery> anyone around
[03:41] <urlin2u> nope
[03:41] <aademarco> yep
[03:41] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: pulse is an abstraction for Alsa, you can't just have pulse
[03:41] <Emery> I want to use root on ubuntu
[03:41] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: have some patience..
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: then run:  sudo -i   and you will be root
[03:42] <Emery> I want to use SU
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: run:  exit    when you are done
[03:42] <urlin2u> Emery, sudo -i
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: its not supported, advised or needed
[03:42] <Emery> But i want to use su ? How can i use it
[03:42] <urlin2u> Emery, but listen to ActionPa1snip
[03:42] <Zuropazlefuf> uhh. because i need to have sound anywere
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: its not advised here
[03:42] <Emery> but i want to use it
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: (see above)
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> !noroot
[03:43] <Emery> but i want to use it
[03:43] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: channel policy, if you think you need it then you are deluded
[03:43] <urlin2u> lol
[03:43] <Emery> But i want to use SU you little faggo
[03:43] <Emery> t
[03:44] <Zuropazlefuf> Emery: SHUT UP AND READ MY PM
[03:44] <aademarco> lol
[03:44] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: if you run:  sudo -i   then run:  whoami   you will see it says 'root'
[03:44] <Emery> This faggotrs all like you can't su
[03:44] <Zuropazlefuf> Emery: use sudo!
[03:44] <jwp121> Emery: sudo su
[03:44] <Emery> but i want to su
[03:44] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: sudo su   will even work...
[03:44] <Datalink> 1root
[03:44] <Datalink> !root
[03:44] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: bored now
[03:44] <Zuropazlefuf> ROOT LOGIN: TYPE SUDO PASSWD ROOT AND VOILA!
[03:44] <ActionPa1snip> !ops | Emery
[03:44] <Emery> Yeah but i'd like to use SU
[03:44] <Emery> so if you can help me out
[03:44] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: please dont advise that
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> Emery: READ MY PM!
[03:45] <Emery> bro
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> a
[03:45] <Emery> stop being a faggot
[03:45] <Emery> and tell me how to su
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> Emery: are you blind
[03:45] <FloodBot1> Emery: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: its channel policy
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> Emery: U ARE THE FAGGOT!
[03:45] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: keep it family friendly please
[03:45] <pangolin> !language | Zuropazlefuf
[03:45] <Emery> faggots
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> LISTEN ME Emery
[03:45] <mephestys> heh
[03:45] <ActionPa1snip> pangolin: thanks
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> ok
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> :)
[03:45] <Zuropazlefuf> finally :D
[03:45] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: don't advise users of that
[03:46] <Zuropazlefuf> ok :(
[03:46] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its not needed and others may do it and then we get a big mess
[03:46] <mephestys> Well that was fun to stumble into
[03:46] <evernoob> I've just installed 11.10 64bit to existing LUKS LVM for /, and separate LUKS volume for /home. On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. How can I fix this?
[03:46] <mephestys> Is the drama meter back down to zero?
[03:46] <ActionPa1snip> mephestys: seems so :)
[03:46] <urlin2u> mephestys, it is always a party here.
[03:46]  * ActionPa1snip resumes normal service
[03:46] <Zuropazlefuf> and im rooted, i use root for daly basis,
[03:46] <Zuropazlefuf> and umm
[03:47] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: not wise at all
[03:47] <Zuropazlefuf> pulse audio is not avaiable in root session,. that what im trying to do, put sound to root gui...
[03:47] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: help me?
[03:47] <mephestys> I've rooted exactly 1 time heh
[03:47] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the OS isn't made for desktop root login, nor is it smart if you like security
[03:47] <Zuropazlefuf> im a risk taker
[03:48] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no, you don't understand your OS
[03:48]  * CyberDawg yawns
[03:48] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, there are distros that run in root use one of them
[03:48] <mephestys> I've only just started using Ubuntu Linux as a primary OS on my laptop ^_^
[03:49] <ActionPa1snip> mephestys: sweet, hope you enjoy it :D
[03:49] <Zuropazlefuf> i do, just i love root, just, overcoming the restrictions, i think here i can put sound on root, workaround for this, pulseaudio --system, but it does not always work
[03:49] <Zuropazlefuf> and wow,
[03:49] <mephestys> ActionPa1snip, I have been so far, though I admit I'm not a fan of the Unity desktop
[03:49] <Zuropazlefuf> xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver works great on root
[03:49] <Telugodu> try gnome 3
[03:49] <Telugodu> its awesome
[03:49] <Datalink> Zuropazlefuf, just sudo when you need root...
[03:50] <Datalink> does anyone know where gstreamer0.10 keeps it's plugins?
[03:50] <Zuropazlefuf> for xscreensaver i needed to remove xhost acl
[03:50] <mephestys> Telugodu, I switched over to Gnome 3 after learning how to go about switching desktop environments ^_^
[03:50] <mephestys> Telugodu, now I'm working on my own theme as well
[03:50] <mephestys> <-- fast learner
[03:50] <evernoob> I tried to find a terminal in gnome3 - by the time I found it I had forgotten why I wanted it
[03:50] <Zuropazlefuf> and now it works great, hmmm, why screensaver preview is not showing as root with the daemon active?
[03:50]  * CyberDawg suspects evernoob is old too
[03:51] <urlin2u> !ot | Zuropazlefuf
[03:51] <Datalink> evernoob, accessories has a terminal
[03:51] <evernoob> start menu and cascading lists - what could be better?
[03:51] <Telugodu> Zuropazlefuf:haha
[03:51] <Zuropazlefuf> im just talkin, just, commenting iusses i got :(
[03:51] <evernoob> cascading lists with logical categories
[03:51] <Zuropazlefuf> Telugodu: wat lol?
[03:53] <Telugodu> Zuropazlefuf: I  too think the same about evernoob
[03:53] <mephestys> I do have a support-related question though: if I switch over to Compiz for window management, and manage to screw something up, am I going to be able to fix it by going into one of the classic desktops and switching back to Metacity, or will that also be trying to use Compiz
[03:53]  * Zuropazlefuf wants some help with some stuff, he's trying to remove main restrictions that root haves.. *
[03:53] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: so running web browsers and X servers as root is good. Why do you think ubuntu disables the account by default? Do you think you know better than the guys developing and coding Ubuntu?
[03:54] <Zuropazlefuf> no, and it haves root off because two things, no blank passwords and security iusse + and no, im a noob compared to the dev ppl
[03:54] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ^
[03:55] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip....
[03:55] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: root doesn't have a blank password by default
[03:56] <Zuropazlefuf> it does, the system ask root pw when installation
[03:56] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip:
[03:56] <urlin2u> mephestys, what desktop are you using, unity uses compiz already.
[03:56] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: it doesn't, it asks for a username and password, not root
[03:56] <Datalink> Zuropazlefuf, sudo will ask for your password, you can disable that option, however running as root is pretty much putting your system and others at risk
[03:56] <stercor> BitPim reads phone data, puts it into a SQLite database, then crashes, taking the data with it.  I'm on 11.10.
[03:57] <stercor> 1.0.7 bitpim
[03:57] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: there is a difference
[03:57] <mephestys> urlin2u, Gnome 3
[03:57] <Zuropazlefuf> and also, why new users other than the first user ever, are not sudoers?
[03:57] <urlin2u> mephestys, gnome 3 uses mutter compiz wont work.
[03:57] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: not in ubuntu but in some other distro
[03:58] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: control, if a user is to be able to use sudo etc an admin must add them to the admins group
[03:58] <mephestys> urlin2u, Got it, thanks :)
[03:58] <Zuropazlefuf> and?
[03:58] <urlin2u> mephestys, cool, would be nice though.
[03:58] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: that's their choice. Ubuntu is setup as it is for security. More distros are starting to use sudo afaik
[03:58] <urlin2u> cough rootkit
[03:59] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: and that's why they aren't able to use sudo...
[03:59] <Zuropazlefuf> oh...
[03:59] <mephestys> urlin2u, I thought Gnome 3 used metacity as well, clearly that is not the case. Looks like mutter is going for the same minimal approach though
[04:00] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: unlike windows where everyone is an admin and everyone can do evertything. So web browsers run as admin and spyware and viruses have free reign
[04:00] <Zuropazlefuf> ok, i understand it
[04:00] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: so malicious java scripts running in your browser will also get root accessif you log in as root
[04:01] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: so they can screw up your system while you casually browse
[04:01] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: most win users are confused, they think administrator regins}
[04:01] <pangolin> We done explaining the obvious?
[04:01] <pangolin> back to support please
[04:01] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you are no different..
[04:01] <Zuropazlefuf> yeah, it haves special things like disabled login, and is internal,
[04:01] <evernoob> yeah, stop indulging him and answer my question!
[04:02] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: im aware about all this
[04:02] <ActionPa1snip> just trying to educate
[04:02] <Zuropazlefuf> we are fine now ActionPa1snip?
[04:02] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: oh yeah, just confused why you still use root despite the huge security flaws it gives.
[04:03] <lorddelta> ...if I wanted to perform an Ubuntu "reset", what'd be the easiest method? (barring installing clean from CD). I.e. apt-get purging ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-session, and re-installing?
[04:03] <Zuropazlefuf> because of the pain of typing sudo and gksu everywere + using root term
[04:03] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: after you setup the OS, its rare
[04:03] <urlin2u> lorddelta, the whole OS or the desktop, and which de?
[04:03] <lorddelta> Installed some updates, and pretty sure they broke whatever flimsy kdm to gnome-session thing I had going....
[04:04] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: ubuntu-desktop is a metpackage, u got to format the whole disk or else to reset it
[04:04] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: if you log in to liveCD and rename all the hidden folders in your users home and log in, you will get vanilla settings for your user. Is that what you mean?
[04:04] <lorddelta> urlin2u: Euhm. Not the whole OS. I'm relatively comfortable at the cmdline, the only thing I'm not strong at is X11...
[04:05] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ahh i always do root access on livecd xD
[04:05] <lorddelta> I just mean a desktop reset...
[04:05] <urlin2u> lorddelta, which desktop?
[04:05] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: delete your home
[04:05] <lorddelta> I already have 5 or 6 desktops lying around...
[04:05] <lorddelta> Zuropzlefuf: No. XD
[04:05] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: depends what you are doing, taht s is temporary so   sudo -i   can be useful
[04:05] <kop> fighting bluetooth in 10.04 "Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout" look familiar ?
[04:05] <pangolin> Zuropazlefuf: stop giving bad advice or I will remove you
[04:05] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[04:05] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: for me im in root need, :)
[04:06] <Zuropazlefuf> pangolin: im not giving bad advice!
[04:06] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: the method I gave will force the OS to make fresh configs
[04:06] <goddard> it wouldn't even load form e
[04:06] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its not needed, you just sacrificed security for a mild convenience
[04:06] <pangolin> Zuropazlefuf: telling someone to delete their /home is not good advice
[04:06] <Zuropazlefuf> oh :(
[04:06] <pangolin> ActionPa1snip: please stop feeding
[04:07] <ActionPa1snip> pangolin: I'm done, s/he will have to learn the hard way :D
[04:07] <lorddelta> Well. Sorry to say but nobody's proposed a sensible solution (or explained why their's is a sensible one)
[04:07] <lorddelta> I'll go ahead with my desktop-purges, and see where that gets me.
[04:07] <lorddelta> I already had a half-zombie ubuntu/gnome/avant/compiz hack together that I was ok with.
[04:07] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: why isn't mine sensible?
[04:07] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ik, just i get abit annyoned about kept ask for pw to do special master system stuff
[04:07] <lorddelta> I just realize its a far cry from what "official" 12.04 looks like.
[04:08] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[04:08] <kop> 12.04 ? I'm still annoyed with 10.04
[04:08] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[04:08] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its rare once you get the OS setup. You want to learn the hard way that's fine. I can't tell you anymore. You still don't understand your OS
[04:08] <lorddelta> ActionPa1snip: renaming all the hidden folders in my home directory? Really? No. I've got other stuff that I want sittin' in there.
[04:09] <lorddelta> I'm not an idiot, I'm just not great with X.
[04:09] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: yes. note rename NOT DELETE
[04:09] <pangolin> lorddelta: what is the end goal you want to achieve?
[04:09] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: there is a difference
[04:09] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i do :(  and yes is rare, it's like a personal needing
[04:09] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: copy the config stuff
[04:09] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: you can rename stuff back you want to keep like email folders and such but the gconf / dconf will be defaulted
[04:09] <Zuropazlefuf> move*
[04:10] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: u can just move from your /home the stuff that is not personal, config files, etc
[04:10] <kop> is bluetooth fundamentally broken in 10.04 ?
[04:10] <lorddelta> pangolin: gnome-session broke (I don't know why, I assuming its buried in log files somewhere, due to recent updates that probably have something to do with me using unofficial repos), just looking to clear out my "settings" for whatever gnome-stuff there currently is.
[04:10] <Zuropazlefuf> kop: idk
[04:10] <kop> fighting bluetooth in 10.04 "Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout" look familiar ?
[04:10] <ActionPa1snip> kop: never had an issue with it personally
[04:11] <lorddelta> Because I frankly don't care about it too much. As long as I can get a working copy and kill like half of it later (and run my own stuff)
[04:11] <ActionPa1snip> kop: tried a later release?
[04:11] <pangolin> lorddelta: in that case go with what ActionPa1snip suggested
[04:11] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: maybe gnome3 problem in 11.04?
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> i ran i some kind of corrupt gnome because i had put gnome3 in it
[04:12] <kop> ActionPa1snip, a later release would break more than it fixed , thi isn't NetBSD ;-/
[04:12] <lorddelta> Zuropazlefuf: Nah, 11.10
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> kop: no, do fresh install, should work great
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: oh
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: maybe clean install fix?
[04:13] <ActionPa1snip> kop: later kernel may support what you have, better
[04:13] <Zuropazlefuf> because of all gnome 2 stuff that confict with gnome 3
[04:13] <kop> Zuropazlefuf, did on a spare drive , garbage
[04:13] <lorddelta> *sigh* pangolin, ActionPa1snip, thanks I'll try the deletion of the gconf, see what that does for me.
[04:13] <lorddelta> ~/.gconf, right?
[04:13] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: just rename, then you have a rolback path
[04:13] <kop> ActionPa1snip, later kernel drops oss suport
[04:13] <ActionPa1snip> kop: ahhhh
[04:13] <pangolin> don't delete, rename them to whatever.bak
[04:14] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: yes, .dconfig, and config/gconf
[04:14] <ActionPa1snip> kop: let me see what I can find?
[04:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: can you still help me remove some of the root barriers?
[04:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: or are you done?
[04:15] <ActionPa1snip> kop: is you run:  sudo service bluetooth restart      does it help
[04:15] <Hetep> hola, am actually attempting to configure a webpage from home. is a person able to assist?
[04:15] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no I can't the OS isn't designed for taht
[04:15] <kop> ActionPa1snip, it isn't that I am a total PussAwful hater (I am ) It just kills all my HDware and half my apps
[04:16] <urlin2u> Hetep, this is ubuntu support, you might try ##linux
[04:16] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i don't care, is not designed but it can handle this
[04:16] <kop> ActionPa1snip, not even a reboot after the guide in ubuntu helps
[04:16] <ActionPa1snip> kop: gota use what works dude, lucid is supported for a good while stil :)
[04:16] <cipher__> Has anyone else had issues with the menu-bar in gnome not disappearing when it's toggled to not show? Apparently it's bug 874344, and I am curious if anyone found a work around, it's really annoying.
[04:16] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: maybe but I don't know how to do it as I don't log in as root and neither should you
[04:17] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the folks in #backtrack-linux log in as root, maybe they can help
[04:17] <ActionPa1snip> kop: does restarting the bluetooth service make it ok?
[04:17] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip:  but, ubuntu desktop?
[04:18] <mister_m> how do I add a .desktop entry for a .sh file
[04:18] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no idea
[04:18] <boom2pow> hi, anyone here can help me what is best, 10.04LTS or 11.10?
[04:19] <kop> ActionPa1snip, actually OS can't decide if it's an upstart job or still in init.d :-/  depends on the app and mood
[04:19] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812654/  is an example .desktop file, just change the lines to run what you want and name as you wish
[04:19] <ActionPa1snip> kop: haha, try both ways then ;)
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> kop: found this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=189550b02b216831802ee820887564eb&t=1788714
[04:20] <kop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:20] <rikkimaru> my apt-get install fails and says a "pre-installation script returned error exit status 1". how do I figure out what script the error was actually from?
[04:20] <mister_m> ActionPa1snip: I have something similar but I get an error from the program that I am trying to make the file for, and I don't get one if I invoke the .sh from where I exctracted it to
[04:20] <robbie> hey all
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: in the exec= line, use the absolute path
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> hi robbie
[04:21] <urlin2u> !best > boom2pow
[04:21] <mister_m> ActionPa1snip: I do
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: be sure the script file is marked as executable and has the top line:  #!/bin/bash
[04:22] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/919895 lightdm bug i got about sessions
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: the file extension means very little ;)
[04:22] <lehthanis> well...I have a few questions...been changin around...I went from Ubuntu Studio to Linux Mint, and now I'm on regular Ubuntu 11.10.
[04:22] <lehthanis> can someone help me figure out why my broadcom wifi isn't working?
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: if you log in as your user, not root. Is it ok?
[04:22] <Hetep-AFK> why does ubuntu suggest * 435 ReshAyin ##linux Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> !broadcom | leth
[04:23] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: it does not matter, hold on
[04:23] <ActionPa1snip> Hetep-AFK: I'd ask in #freenode
[04:23] <nRy> Can someone help me find a list of Ubuntu AMI's on EC2?
[04:23] <goddard> it wouldn't even load form e
[04:23] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[04:23] <goddard> it wouldn't even load for me
[04:23] <nRy> I am trying to build an instance with GPU to run on Amazon
[04:23] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: it may do, the OS is designed to not log ni as root remember
[04:23] <kop> ActionPa1snip, food for more frustration I'm sure I'm out and thrashing on the CF-29 brick (toughbook)
[04:23] <lehthanis> ActionPalsnip that's the page I was looking for, lol
[04:23] <maZed_> does ubuntu have a theme manager?
[04:23] <[deXter]> Hetep-AFK, You will have to identify the nickname first before trying to join the channel.
[04:24] <rcmaehl> Houston I have a major freaking problem! When ever I try to execute clear via script or terminal I get: bash: /usr/bin/clear: cannot execute binary file
[04:24] <rcmaehl> This should NOT happen
[04:24] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: it takes loong, lemme see wat it loads
[04:24] <Hetep-AFK> identify format is again?
[04:25] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: do you have execute access as the user yu are running it as?
[04:25] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: tada, it's able to run gnome-shell :(
[04:25] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: I should I mean clear should have access for all usrs
[04:25] <Zuropazlefuf> is a root only iusse then
[04:25] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: what username is running the script?
[04:25] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: it happens even outside of scripts
[04:25] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Hi. Have you had any border issues, I have my gtk theme set to something else, I changed the gnome theme too (they are both dark themes), and yet I am getting this default look. As shown in screenshot 1. Then whenever nautilus opens (this may be correct behavior) it hijacks the desktop. (1) http://i40.tinypic.com/2eksuns.png (2) http://i40.tinypic.com/e8q137.png
[04:25] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: remember all that stuff I said now...
[04:25] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: from pure terminal
[04:26] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: and tty
[04:26] <rikkimaru> can anyone tell me how to investigate this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812657/ ?
[04:26] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: what is the output of:  ls -l `which clear`
[04:27] <rcmaehl> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5504 2011-09-16 15:29 /usr/bin/clear
[04:27] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: ^
[04:28] <United7> guys..how to check if there are updates for installed programs in Ubuntu ? Is there any update section , like Android market, which shows update list in one place ?
[04:28] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: looks ok, same here
[04:28] <rcmaehl> United7: ubuntu version?
[04:28] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: I use LXDE, so I don't use the compiz / uinty, so no, never had an issue
[04:28] <obiexo> hey guys anyone familiar with setting up a ftp to access my laptop while im at work?
[04:28] <urlin2u> United7, update manager
[04:28] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, ok
[04:29] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: hey, how do i put java into system?
[04:29] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I take it you don't have any suggestions?
[04:29] <rcmaehl> cipher__: you have to set nautilus to open with --no-desktop
[04:29] <cipher__> ok
[04:29] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip
[04:29] <cipher__>  thanks
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I have a script to install java 32bit. omgubuntu have a ppa made too
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you don't have to address me twice you know
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: my buffer for text is several thousand lines..
[04:31] <rikkimaru> where does aptitude download packages to?
[04:32] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: try a differnet theme maybe..
[04:32] <cipher__> I have tried a lot :p
[04:32] <ActionPa1snip> rikkimaru: same place as apt-get  /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:32] <rikkimaru> ActionPa1snip, thank you :D
[04:33] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ok, how i can copy the menu settings from another user?
[04:34] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i just dloaded and extracted the java, and now?
[04:34] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: do you use 32bit ubuntu?
[04:34] <Zuropazlefuf> yes
[04:34] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: gimme a sec, I'll pastebin my script
[04:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812663/
[04:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: it installs the plugin for chromium but just change the place for the plugin to go in the script and it will be where you want
[04:36] <chaosito714> ?
[04:36] <chaosito714> ?
[04:36] <Zuropazlefuf> is for FF
[04:36] <cipher__> So the window borders will change according to the theme, but nothing else. Though oddly xchat and a couple other programs fully conform.
[04:36] <Zuropazlefuf> the plugin
[04:36] <Zuropazlefuf> ??
[04:37] <cipher__> Like libreoffice ActionPa1snip
[04:37] <maZed_> where is the theme changer? in apperance i see where it says theme with drop down with 4 options, but how do i add to it?
[04:37] <HackNewton> i have recently tried to switch over kubuntu it doesnt digest me so i switch back to unity but now problem is that my booting screen is still showing kubuntu bootup style
[04:37] <HackNewton>  any one have solution ?
[04:37] <Zuropazlefuf> do rpm work in ubuntu?
[04:38] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: yes, the whatever.so is the plugin for your browser...
[04:38] <Zuropazlefuf> i mean,
[04:38] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you can use alien, but try and find debs
[04:38] <rikkimaru> when I run dpkg --configure, where are the scripts that it runs for a package?
[04:39] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: help me find .deb of java 6u30?
[04:39] <Zuropazlefuf> linux-1586
[04:39] <Zuropazlefuf> i
[04:39] <extor> Is anyone familiar with xvnc on ubuntu and would you also know whether this binary Xvnc is no longer provided? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/Xvnc4.1.html
[04:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: can this help? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml
[04:40] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip , sorry I promise to stop highlighting you. but is it possible most programs are running as root? Because I just started Synaptic PM and it claimed it couldn't attain root, and it has the correct theme?
[04:40] <cipher__> And that is the "root" theme
[04:40] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: same process, just a differnet file and paths
[04:41] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: synaptic needs root as you are applying changes outside home, it needs admin priveledges.
[04:41] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ah, Revert button...
[04:41] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: how did you apply the theme
[04:41] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I understand stand that :p
[04:41] <urlin2u> HackNewton, take a look at playing around read carefully,. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[04:41] <cipher__> gtk-chtheme
[04:42] <cipher__> and I also used a gnome tool
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: did you run it with gksudo or sudo?
[04:42] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, help, Revert reverted nothing :(
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: revert what?
[04:42] <cipher__> maybe.
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: think about it ;)
[04:42] <Zuropazlefuf> the delete i made :(
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: restore from backups..
[04:43] <developernotes> I am using an Apple aluminum keyboard with Ubuntu 11.10, does anyone know of a way to swap the alt key and the command key?
[04:43] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: got none
[04:43] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I tried it with both root and "normal" user, it didn't change anything.
[04:43] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: what if your drive motor fails, where is your data>
[04:43] <Mahn> Greets folks. I've got a ubuntu server running 11.10 (x64) that i've suddenly lost ssh access to. any tips?
[04:43] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: if you run stuff with sudo and gksudo it will change root's profile.
[04:44] <cipher__> Yeah I got that :p
[04:44] <cipher__> I understand, I have been programming on linux for years. It's just I understand bsdsockets better than I do window managers :p
[04:44] <cipher__> and by years a mean year*
[04:44] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: tried a reboot. Could be the ticket
[04:46] <Mahn> My webserver still delivers my sites, so the box is live, but ssh refuses my connections.
[04:46] <Mahn> I was in the CLI last night, and after I ran a soft restart, i got locked out
[04:46] <United7> sorry for the late reply..I am using 11.10
[04:46] <United7> So..the update manager detects the programs I installed in my system and update it ?
[04:47] <Mahn> Yes, united7. The manager tracks updates to your programs in dkpg and delivers you messages based on updates
[04:48] <rcmaehl> Is anyone running 32-bit ubuntu?
[04:48] <Mahn> I suspect my server is returning to safe mode, as even hard boots do not rectify the problem
[04:48] <Mahn> rcmaehl: why architecture dependent question?
[04:48] <rcmaehl> I need a new copy of /usr/bin/clear
[04:49] <rcmaehl> without REINSTALLING the ENTIRE OS
[04:49] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: there's rpm here?
[04:49] <ActionPa1snip> !rpm | Zuropazlefuf
[04:49] <Zuropazlefuf> rcmaehl: maybe send to you?
[04:49] <rcmaehl> Zuropazlefuf: what?
[04:49] <Zuropazlefuf> :O, and i have unckeched unsupported
[04:50] <Zuropazlefuf> rcmaehl: hmm, why not mail the file or else?
[04:50] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: if you reinstall ncurses-bin it will reinstate the clear binary
[04:50] <Zuropazlefuf> is 11.10 version?
[04:50] <raclinux> bom dia galera
[04:50] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: so what i can do without installing alien?
[04:50] <Mahn> good evening raclinux
[04:51] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: use the compressed file
[04:51] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm?
[04:51] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: omgubuntu specified a PPA a while back too, not sure if it's still around
[04:51] <Zuropazlefuf> i got two things, an rpm, and an extracted tar
[04:51] <raclinux> tem alguem na sala que saiba usar bem o DeVeDe?
[04:51] <Zuropazlefuf> well, is a java diir
[04:51] <Mahn> !en raclinux
[04:51] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the script I gave is basically what you need, just change the paths and file names
[04:52] <Zuropazlefuf> and wat about the wget
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the process is identical
[04:52] <Zuropazlefuf> i do not need the get
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: thinnk about it
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: exactly
[04:52] <cipher__> didn't do the trick ActionPa1snip
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you already have the file, so why would you need wget?
[04:53] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: im just a bit blind on script, i have already a dir
[04:53] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: bah :(
[04:53] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: edit it to point FF?
[04:53] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: just copy the lines to the terminal and change them as you are using a different file which will make a different folder
[04:53] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: i the last few lines, yes
[04:53] <lorddelta> ActionPa1snip: sorry, been awhile, only was supposed to rename .gconf and .config, yes? I did try that, didn't work, yay my problems go deeper X_X (unless I missed something). Yay, time to learn how my X/KDM works (properly)
[04:54] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you can run them manually if you copy and paste then to terminal, you can verify stuff then run the comamnd
[04:54] <lorddelta> At least openbox/kubuntu work.
[04:55] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i don't understand very well the install...
[04:56] <Zuropazlefuf> line 10
[04:56] <obiexo> does anyone know how to setup a ftp server and access folders/fies remotly?
[04:57] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: Is there a way to ignore package dependancies? For some reason a few packages aren't showing correctly which won't let me reinstall ncurses-bin
[04:57] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: change the path for the one you make, yours will be different as you are using a different java
[04:58] <Mahn> obiexo: look into vsftpd
[04:58] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: use the --no-deps option on apt-get (if memory serves), read:  man apt-get
[04:59] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: so if you have the java folder:  jreaaa    then you'd copy the jreaaa folder to /usr/lib/jvm  and the command would be: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jreaaa/bin/java 81
[04:59] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its literally that simple
[04:59] <pp7> why has my sound disappeared after last update?
[05:00] <ActionPa1snip> pp7: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait a few seconds, then try sound things
[05:00] <pp7> ok
[05:00] <BrettD88> Hello.
[05:01] <Mahn> hey Brettd88
[05:01] <BrettD88> Hello, Mahn.
[05:01] <Mahn> what's crackin
[05:01] <BrettD88> Boy am I stuck.
[05:01] <Mahn> what's up?
[05:01] <ActionPa1snip> BrettD88: ask away :)
[05:01] <pp7> ActionPa1snip: worked a treat!! :)
[05:01] <Mahn> awesome pp7
[05:02] <pp7> :)
[05:02] <ActionPa1snip> pp7: defaulted the sound settings. The file and folder you deleted hold sound settings. You now have vanilla settings
[05:02] <BrettD88> Dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu 11.10.  Install on Ubuntu seemed to go ok.
[05:02] <pp7> yea
[05:02] <Mahn> mhm
[05:02] <pp7> ActionPa1snip: but why did the update screw it up?
[05:03] <Mahn> pp7: the update didn't recognize your settings likely
[05:03] <BrettD88> Can't get ubuntu to boot up.  I know it has something to do with the IA-64 architecture of this 64 bit Intel
[05:03] <Mahn> brettd88: what errors do you see?
[05:03] <BrettD88> Mahn: None.
[05:03] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: thank you unbiased god
[05:03] <Mahn> do you get grub, even?
[05:03] <ActionPa1snip> pp7: maybe the old settings for a new alsa made it break
[05:03] <BrettD88> Just goes ahead and boots straight into win
[05:04] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: :)
[05:04] <pp7> ActionPa1snip: mm yea
[05:04] <BrettD88> Mahn: No Grub
[05:04] <Mahn> brettd88: did you install of disk/usb?
[05:04] <ActionPa1snip> BrettD88: boot to ubuntu liveCD and use this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[05:04] <ActionPa1snip> BrettD88:  you can install Grub to the MBR
[05:04] <Mahn> action is faster with the bookmarks lol
[05:05] <BrettD88> This architecture uses a separate EFI partition for booting.
[05:05] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: I only find guides others can find easily
[05:05] <BrettD88> I'm sure I just don't understand it well enough.
[05:05] <Mahn> +1 actionpa1snip
[05:05] <Mahn> brettd88: just but grub on sda, it'll launch first
[05:06] <Mahn> grub has ossniffer module which will find your windows
[05:07] <Mahn> action, u know how I could restore sshd?
[05:07] <Mahn> or at least figure out why my box keeps going into safe mode?
[05:09] <BrettD88> Anyone here an EFI master? ;)
[05:09] <United7> How to make a VLC player as a default player in Ubuntu ?
[05:09] <United7> for videos
[05:09] <Mahn> united7: right click the file and under properties you can set it
[05:09] <BrettD88> Mahn: Thanks for helping.
[05:09] <Mahn> brettd88: np mate
[05:09] <Mahn> just make sure grub gets loaded first, and it'll handle the rest
[05:09] <United7> Thanks..but I believe I have seen one section where I can select default programs for other formats in one page
[05:09] <ActionPa1snip> United7: which release?
[05:10] <United7> 11.100
[05:10] <United7> 11.10 sorry
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> United7: system info
[05:10] <United7> ok
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> inside
[05:10] <United7> let me check
[05:10] <FloodBot1> United7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <ActionPa1snip> United7: in dash search for: system settings    its in there
[05:10] <BrettD88> ActionPalsnip: Thanks for helping.
[05:10] <United7> ok
[05:10] <United7> thanks
[05:10] <ActionPa1snip> info
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> think he already kenw where
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> knew
[05:10] <BrettD88> ActionPa1snip: Thanks for helping.
[05:11] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[05:11] <Zuropazlefuf> BrettD88: he already knows
[05:11] <Mahn> zuro: u any good with servers?
[05:11] <kop> ActionPa1snip, still here
[05:12] <Mahn> what's up kop?
[05:12] <kop> /usr/share/doc/bluez/examples$ sudo ./simple-agent hci0 00:15:83:15:A3:10
[05:12] <kop> Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout
[05:13] <Mahn> i don't know of that command, but it seems the server you're trying to connect to isn't live
[05:13] <kop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:14] <Mahn> you're still running 10.04?
[05:14] <Mahn> oh i see, nvm.
[05:14] <kop> well if I get it right it's ./configure , 'pile or just synaptic the packages
[05:14] <lehthanis> I'm running 11.10, fresh install, nothing changed...what kind of themes do I need to look for?
[05:14] <lehthanis> Unity?  Gnome?  GTK?
[05:14] <Mahn> lethanis gnome
[05:15] <lehthanis> gnome-shell?
[05:15] <Mahn> mhm
[05:15] <witeds> greetings
[05:15] <Mahn> sup witeds
[05:15] <lehthanis> will that also change the window colors?
[05:15] <kop> Mahn, don't go there , past 10.04 this lappy is wildly unstable and unsupported
[05:15] <Mahn> i don't hate, kop. i still run 10.10 studio on my comp
[05:15] <witeds> i need some help i have a server and i set it up with the tty1 auto login configuration but i also need it to launch a program after it dose
[05:15] <JavaNunes> oi
[05:16] <Mahn> lethanis: the shell theme is responsible for window decorations
[05:16] <witeds> if i put the script in the ~.bashrc at the bottom of the document it launches and dubble launches if i login through ssh
[05:16] <Mahn> excuse me, there is window theme as well
[05:16] <witeds> i dont want that
[05:17] <lehthanis> ok...I ask because in Linux Mint, I had to do gnome-shell themes for the top and bottom bar...and then GTK 3.2 themes for the windows.
[05:17] <Mahn> put auto-start scripts in init.d
[05:17] <lehthanis> I don't have to worry about that in 11.10?
[05:17] <Mahn> gnome 3 for mint12 has a separate window theme drop-down
[05:17] <witeds> its a java server for a game and launching in a detached screen
[05:17] <ActionPa1snip> witeds: if you add it in /etc/rc.local it will run as root just before the login prompt, you can use su -c   to run it as a different user if needed
[05:18] <lehthanis> so if I go to gnome-look.org the themes I'm looking for are all going to be under what category?
[05:18] <lehthanis> Gnome Shell?
[05:18] <witeds> ok so su as in sudo or just su itself
[05:19] <Mahn> lethanis: gtk3 theme/style
[05:19] <sec_> sud
[05:19] <sec_> o
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> witeds: you can add: su --command="command here" username
[05:20] <lehthanis> so what is unity?
[05:20] <Mahn> lethanis: for netbooks lol
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> witeds: if it needs running as root, just add the commad, add an ampersand to the end of the line so it is backgrounded too
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> lehthanis: its a shell for gnome
[05:21] <lorddelta> *deep breath* removing gnome...resolving to go with xfce4/open-box, i.e. something more stable/lightweight.
[05:21] <witeds> it is not advised to run as root
[05:21] <lorddelta> (and gconf2)
[05:21] <Mahn> Action: i'm about to re-image my server. could you think of any way to resolve ssh connections being refused?
[05:21] <witeds> i will play around with this thanks for the info it will help alot
[05:22] <lehthanis> I'm asking all these questions because every time I've tried a linux distro thus far, when I download themes, they only theme a portion, not everything...so I'm tryign to make sure I download themes that will change everything
[05:22] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: can clients ping the server? Is there a firewall configured etc? Are there certain accounts which cannot connect
[05:22] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: is the ssh service running? are you connecting to the right port specified in sshd_config
[05:23] <Mahn> Action: the webserver still delivers. IPTables / sshkeys are all clear, no accounts under no ips nor domains will be accepted
[05:23] <lehthanis> so for Ubuntu 11.10 right after installing from the cd, all I need to theme is the GTK 3.x themes?
[05:23] <Mahn> Action: I was in the box, after a soft restart this happened
[05:23] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: check all that stuff dude
[05:23] <witeds> it worked
[05:23] <witeds> thakns
[05:23] <witeds> thanks*
[05:23] <Mahn> I have a feeling it's returning to safe mode, and have hard booted it half a dozen times
[05:24] <Mahn> Only access I have is when i run the network rescue kernel
[05:24] <Mahn> pings return, webserver delivers, everything seems kosher except it will not accept ssh connections
[05:24] <Mahn> have gone through all the ssh_keys, and there's nothing i can find that will keep me out
[05:24] <Mahn> I'm not in my own IPtable
[05:25] <Guest7671> lol
[05:25] <lehthanis> Is 11.10 running Gnome 3.2?
[05:26] <Mahn> action: i've set ssh_config to different ports, and all ports, ssh still refused
[05:26] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I have to say 11.10 sort of sucks. They are trying to make it too user friendly, to the point they lock you out of your own system.
[05:26] <cipher__> 7.04-10 was great
[05:27] <web4free> how to cancel the messages that someone join channel or someone out of chatroom ?
[05:27] <Mahn> web4free: which client are you using?
[05:27] <skilz_> web4free: That's in your IRC client settings.
[05:27] <web4free> pindig
[05:27] <kop> okay this suxors I can't even get a supposedly plug and play dongle to be recognized
[05:28] <web4free> thanks,,,
[05:28] <Mahn> lethanis: apt-cache show gnome-shell | grep Version
[05:28] <cipher__> Do you think I will experience many issues if i remove unity?
[05:28] <web4free>  I will check out
[05:28] <Mahn> cipher__: unity is terrible, IMO
[05:28] <cipher__> ^^
[05:28] <cipher__> It sucks.
[05:28] <cipher__> IM not-to HO
[05:28] <Mahn> either backtrack to 10.10 like i have, or jump to 11.10 for gnome 3
[05:28] <cipher__> no-so*
[05:29] <Zuropazlefuf> lehthanis: unsure
[05:29] <Mahn> mint12 is running 3.2
[05:29] <cipher__> brb, removing unity
[05:30] <kop> unity and PA belong in that special hell that contains SCO , WinMe , Vista and the easter bunny
[05:30] <Mahn> kop: lol
[05:31] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm
[05:31] <ActionPa1snip> Just use LXDE and you got no worries :)
[05:31] <Zuropazlefuf> if i have gnome-shell
[05:31] <Zuropazlefuf> is safe to remove unity!?
[05:31] <Mahn> sure zuro
[05:31] <Braden`> Hello
[05:31] <kop> ActionPa1snip, default 10pt fonts ...
[05:32] <Mahn> hello braden`
[05:32] <Braden`> If I do:   ls -l /dev/pts    there are zero files
[05:32] <Zuropazlefuf> wat packages belong to unity gui?
[05:32] <Braden`> How do I enable ptys?
[05:32] <ActionPa1snip> kop: I've changed the font rendering to LCD and a went size larger.
[05:33] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: cipher__ will be able to tell you if s/he comes back
[05:33] <kop> ActionPa1snip, the main menu fonts are still 1/64" high on a 42" lcd ...
[05:34] <ActionPa1snip> kop: if you set the default menu larger is it not honoured?
[05:35] <ActionPa1snip> kop: I use desktop icons and xbmc on my media system. I installed LXDE as it consumes fewer resources to sit in the background
[05:37] <ActionPa1snip> kop: could set a lower DPI and it shuold be easier to read
[05:37] <kop> 1/64" high on a 42" lcd ...
[05:38] <kop> ActionPa1snip, you can't draw that thin a LINE with a oo rapidograph
[05:39] <kop> I can't read 10pt on this screen ... (1024x768)
[05:39] <kop> wtf was lxde-dev thinking
[05:41] <Braden`> If I do:   ls -l /dev/pts    there are zero files.  How do I enable ptys?
[05:41] <bassgoon> so I just installed 11.10 from a usb drive on my laptop. I have 2 hard drives. One with win 7, and the other was unformatted. I selected "install alongside windows 7" as the install option and it installed on the empty hard drive. Now when I boot it only goes to windows, and if I try to force it to boot from the other hdd it says no OS. The 2nd hdd has a grub partition with only the grub_bios flag. No idea how to make it boot into ubuntu
[05:42] <Darksyns> something went wrong when it asked you to install grub
[05:42] <Darksyns> installed on another drive
[05:42] <ActionPa1snip> kop: never had an issue on my geforce 6150LE
[05:42] <Tux> Ugh, can't seem to get security.ubuntu.com to work
[05:43] <bassgoon> Darksyns, I don't recall it asking to install grub
[05:43] <artichoku> sup sup
[05:43] <Darksyns> how large is your windows partition?
[05:43] <bassgoon> 300gb
[05:44] <bassgoon> the other disc is 100
[05:44] <Darksyns> use virtual manager in windows to shrink your windows partition to maybe 270..
[05:44] <Darksyns> and then reinstall ubuntu.. putting root on the parition u shrank
[05:45] <Darksyns> format the drive it installed it to
[05:45] <Darksyns> there are other ways but.. will take a while
[05:45] <bassgoon> hmm ok
[05:45] <Darksyns> this is easiest and cleanest
[05:45] <bassgoon> i can handle reinstalling
[05:45] <sec_> any free ubuntu shell around?
[05:45] <bassgoon> so will i have to manually set up file systems?
[05:45] <Darksyns> yes..
[05:46] <Darksyns> that will be better
[05:46] <bassgoon> yeah
[05:46] <bassgoon> what would be good ones for the 100g disc.../home?
[05:46] <newbie|2> u could use super grub disk to boot into ubuntu
[05:47] <Darksyns> that depends on how much you plan on using ubuntu
[05:47] <newbie|2> then isue the command update grub
[05:47] <newbie|2> issue
[05:47] <bassgoon> Darksyns, very rarely
[05:47] <newbie|2> as root
[05:47] <bassgoon> and...it's my work computer...and I'd rather not mess with the windows disk :D
[05:47] <Darksyns> I've been fine with 40gigs before
[05:48] <Darksyns> just make sure / has sufficient space
[05:48] <bassgoon> yeah
[05:48] <bassgoon> newbie|2, i'll give that a try first maybe
[05:49] <martillon_> hello
[05:49] <newbie|2> either way you are going to have to install grub to the windows drive unless you use supergrub disk all the time
[05:49] <Darksyns> yes
[05:49] <kn100-resol> I get the wrong resolution under ubuntu using nvidia propietory drivers. I have an edid readout of my monitor. How do I set this? Something to do with modelines?
[05:50] <martillon_> help whit ssltrip
[05:50] <ActionPa1snip> bassgoon: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/   will let you boot to liveCD and install grub to the MBR (assuming you didn't use wubi)
[05:51] <newbie|2> thats the dvd only
[05:52] <codega> Uhh can anybody help me. I think I broke my update manger.
[05:52] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: its the live environment
[05:53] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: its the DVD/CD or DVD. all of them can chroot
[05:53] <ActionPa1snip> codega: can you give a pastebin of:  sudo apt-get update       Thanks
[05:53] <Glacia> if i instal ubuntu as a live usb can I install programs and files and it will still be there each time i load it up no matter what computer i plug into? provided that the usb is big enough? or should/can I install it to the usb drive as if i am installing onto a n internal hdd
[05:53] <codega> thank you
[05:54] <ActionPa1snip> !paste | codega
[05:54] <newbie|2> Yea, but the DVD has a rescue mode that does if for you.
[05:54] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: maybe bt they ALL can do what that guide says
[05:54] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: bearing in mnd most people will grab the CD ISO
[05:54] <artichoku> oooo i gotta +v
[05:55] <sec_> any free ubuntu shell around?
[05:55] <bassgoon> hmm, can I use super grub disk from a usb drive?
[05:55] <artichoku> sec_
[05:55] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: Ubuntu comes with many shells. Bash is default installed
[05:55] <Glacia> ActionPa1snip, any thoughts?
[05:56] <artichoku> are you looking for a shell account sec_
[05:56] <sec_> right artichoku
[05:56] <newbie|2> bassgoon: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[05:56] <artichoku> check out sdf.org
[05:56] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: there is a persistence you can add with usb-creator
[05:56] <sec_> x64 prefer
[05:56] <artichoku> that's what i like to use
[05:56] <artichoku> it's ssh
[05:56] <bassgoon> newbie|2, oh I'm seeing a bunch of pita instructions to make it bootable from usb
[05:56] <bassgoon> yay
[05:56] <artichoku> it also has bash and some other stuff
[05:56] <pangolin> Glacia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[05:57] <Glacia> ah ty pangolin
[05:57] <sec_> artichoku: x64 ? and its ubuntu,?
[05:57] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: your bash wil be 64bit if you install 64bit ubuntu
[05:57] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: are you sure you mean 'shell'?
[05:58] <artichoku> well it's technically a deb server
[05:58] <artichoku> but that's almost ubuntu
[05:58] <sec_> cool,
[05:58] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: what is your goal?
[05:58] <artichoku> oh and MuD's ftw!
[05:59] <sec_> artichoku: can to compile my own android ..
[05:59] <bassgoon> can you update the packages when you're running from a usb drive?
[05:59] <ActionPa1snip> bassgoon: sure
[05:59] <Glacia> pangolin, ActionPa1snip, will persistance work on 10.04 LTS
[05:59] <artichoku> sec_: er.... i don't t think ssh is what you're looking for mate
[05:59] <sec_> artichoku: build android fr source
[05:59] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: no idea, I don't use it except to install
[05:59] <bassgoon> ActionPa1snip, well last time I did it I got a prompt for username and password next time I booted up
[05:59] <codega> okay it's working fine now thank you again
[05:59] <pangolin> Glacia: yes
[06:00] <sec_> ActionPa1snip: *
[06:00] <artichoku> sec_:  go check out rootzwiki.com
[06:00] <artichoku> if you're looking to mess with android
[06:00] <artichoku> lots of source code and helpful tutorials
[06:00] <Glacia> pangolin, and last noobish question: does the live usb pendrive program linked on the ubuntu.com site have the persistance option
[06:01] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: you can compile android ni Ubuntu
[06:01] <acidfrost> I'm having trouble with my wifi card is there a log i can check to get information as to why it doesn't show up with ifconfig ? and why ifconfig wlan0 up sometimes says input/output error ?
[06:01] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: the persistence is defined when you use usb-creator
[06:01] <sec_> ActionPa1snip: yes, so i need x64 ubuntu
[06:01] <Glacia> so it is built in ok
[06:02] <ActionPa1snip> acidfrost: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network      you will see the chip and can websearch for guides
[06:02] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: if you want, yes
[06:02] <pangolin> Glacia: the instructions in the link i gave you will guide you to exactly what you want.
[06:02] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: not in the ISO, its managed by the app you make the USB with
[06:02] <Glacia> for 10.04 lts to? i saw it talking about 8.04 and 9.04
[06:03] <newbie|2> bassgoon: Yes you can update if you installed a casper-RW filesys on the usb
[06:03] <pangolin> Glacia: the instruction are a tad old but yes.
[06:03] <acidfrost> ActionPa1snip, i know what card it is and it works occasionally but sometimes it will disappear(not register) and when this happens no usb wifi cards work
[06:03] <artichoku> if you're compiling from source, can't u be on an x86 system and still compile 64bit?
[06:03] <artichoku> acidfrost: what wifi card are you using?
[06:03] <acidfrost> atheros AR5001
[06:03] <artichoku> hrm...
[06:03] <bassgoon> newbie|2, 4gb, but I still don't know why it asked me for a username /password after install
[06:03] <artichoku> mine is b45
[06:03] <Glacia> i should mention i am making this via windows so the sudo commands dont help... still reading though lol :P
[06:04] <artichoku> i haven't had to work on atheros before, i think i'll be useless to you
[06:04] <artichoku> acidfrost: i can tell you my wifi would drop out sometimes when i was in monitor mode
[06:04] <acidfrost> i'm thinking it might be do to overheating as sometimes my netbook gets warm
[06:04] <pangolin> Glacia: go down to step 6
[06:04] <ActionPa1snip> acidfrost: when it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[06:04] <pangolin> Glacia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Installing_Ubuntu_on_USB_drive_using_Windows
[06:05] <ActionPa1snip> acidfrost: also try disabling ipv6 if you don't use it
[06:05] <Glacia> like i said i was still reading i was on step 5 :P
[06:05] <artichoku> wow it got late
[06:06] <ActionPa1snip> bassgoon: if you get asked for a username / password, press CTRL+ALT+F1 log in there and run:  passwd ubuntu    set the pass then press CTRL+ALT+F7   and login as ubuntu with the pass you set
[06:06] <artichoku> i just updated to 11.04, its.... weird
[06:06] <artichoku> i don't think i like unity
[06:06] <ActionPa1snip> artichoku: sounds like you just met unity
[06:06] <artichoku> ahaha, yup
[06:06] <cipher__> Mahn: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png
[06:06] <ActionPa1snip> artichoku: Natty has falback gnome by default, select it at login
[06:06] <acidfrost> whats got me confused though is that when it drops no usb wifi cards will register, lsusb will show my belkin FD6 and FD7 as Belkin Components
[06:07] <artichoku> yeah i saw that, compiz will let me disable it, too
[06:07] <cipher__> err I meant to highlight you Action
[06:07] <bassgoon> ActionPa1snip, genius, thanks :)
[06:07] <artichoku> which i may do because i want my desktop cube
[06:07] <cipher__> After I enabled the change I opened the windows on the right Action
[06:07] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: what am I looking at there?
[06:08] <cipher__> My attempt to show you gtk doesn't work properly on 11.10.
[06:08] <cipher__> I changed the theme on the left, then opened the windows on the right.
[06:08] <artichoku> i believe it's just about time for bed. that's enough trance music and MOO's for one night
[06:08] <cipher__> I was hoping maybe it would spark some idea?
[06:08] <artichoku> have fun everyone
[06:09] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: you can suppress those errors in the terminal with: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[06:09] <cipher__> thanks :p
[06:10] <cipher__> .
[06:10] <cipher__> apparently I quit
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> morning, howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer on an older laptop?
[06:11] <Glacia> ok i need more help... my 16gb usb drive is only showing 3.43gb
[06:11] <Nano> did you change the cluster size last format?
[06:11] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Can I replace gtk with an older version?
[06:12] <Glacia> huh?
[06:14] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, look how ugly it is: http://i39.tinypic.com/velr2s.png :(
[06:16] <chris__> Im wanting to restart my computer every day at 12:15. Would this be correct in crontab "15 0 * * * sudo shutdown -r now"
[06:16] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: GTK is just a framework used to make the Gnome desktop. You can't really replace it
[06:17] <cipher__> I thought GTK was like QT, or any other window rendering system?
[06:17] <dies_irae> chris__: 'sudo reboot' would save u several bytes
[06:18] <chris__> how so dies_irae?
[06:18] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: thats just another toolkit
[06:18] <d34d1y> Anyone know how to make compiz open/close animations work for all windows?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer in unity?
[06:18] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: tried a different theme?
[06:18] <chris__> nevermind
[06:19] <dice> how to remove unity in 11.10?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: yes, its on an older laptop, after reboot corrupt mouse pointer is gone
[06:19] <dies_irae> chris__: 'shutdown -r now' is considerable longer than 'reboot'
[06:19] <unyilz> tes
[06:19] <unyilz> hi.... guys
[06:20] <ActionPa1snip> dice: just install a different DE and use that. I'd suggest XFCE if you like the Gnome2 smell
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> d34d1y: did you install ccsm?
[06:21] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: is the ram healthy?
[06:21] <d34d1y> Yes I have it installed, i just don't know how to make the open/close animations work for every window
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: i think 1gig, does unity go blurry on low ram?
[06:22] <bassgoon> so is the 1mb partition that got created with the bios_grub flag the boot partition?
[06:22] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: wasnt a question of quantity, was a question of health
[06:23] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I am just curious, does X provide a low level interface to draw primitives and such? Is that were other took kits abstract X and build upon it? Or what is GTK exactly?
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: ram should be fine...
[06:24] <chris__> is there a way to allow limited users run 'sudo apt-get -y update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade'?
[06:24] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: as far as I remember it doesn't. I remember in mandrake having to manually place windows when my WM fellover
[06:24] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: should isn't sufficient
[06:24] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: there is memtest in the grub menu. I suggest you use it
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: when the mouse pointer get corrupt it looks like a little cube
[06:25] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: run a few of the tests and see if you see any red. press ESC to reboot after about 20 mins to reboot to your OS
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: ill memtest, but i doubt its ram related...
[06:27] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: its good to isolate out
[06:28] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: also try Unity2D session (if you use unity)
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: i agree on that one
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: it tryed both 2d and 3d, but keeps booting corrupt mouse pointer once in a while (not every boot)
[06:32] <NoseWalrus> in ubuntu 11.10, how do you change the command of an application launcher?
[06:32] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: i'd look at ram then
[06:33] <ActionPa1snip> NoseWalrus: edit the file in /usr/share/applications
[06:33] <ActionPa1snip> NoseWalrus: edit the Exec= line
[06:33] <NoseWalrus> ActionPalsnip thanks
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> ActionPa1snip: ill test it tnx
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> what X does xubuntu use?
[06:37] <Glacia> ok can anyone help me recover my lost space on my usb drive
[06:38] <ActionPa1snip> lotuspsychje: Xorg, like the others...
[06:38] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Xorg, like any other distro. If you mean the desktop environment, XFCE.
[06:38] <theadmin> Glacia: lost space? Can you explain a bit more?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[06:38] <Glacia> 16gb usb showing only 3.44gb of total space
[06:39] <theadmin> Glacia: Hm, have you tried clearing the partition table and formatting it to a single partition?
[06:39] <theadmin> Glacia: Helped me when I had something like that
[06:39] <theadmin> Glacia: Just open up gparted, select the usb drive in the top right box, delete everything and create a single fat32 partition
[06:40] <Glacia> well i used windows format and tried it it didnt work
[06:40] <cipher__> I am running ubuntu 11.10 (they have never released a worse distro, too late now, though) and openbox. I am using gtk-chtheme and a few gnome utilities in an attempt to change themes. Very few programs register the chance: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png .... On the left I activated the theme, then proceeded to open the windows on the right to demonstrate the issue. If anyone could help me fix this I would be very greatful, it's so hi
[06:40] <cipher__> deous :p
[06:40] <cipher__> oh sorry about the comment, i was using it as a cookie cutter, from #debian and #linux
[06:40] <cipher__> don't mean to be offensive
[06:41] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: the distro is still ubuntu..
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Glacia
[06:41] <theadmin> Glacia: That's not the point -- you're formatting a signle partition in Windows, not a whole drive.
[06:41] <slaptman> does anyone know how to get xubuntu 11.10 to play nice with compiz?
[06:42] <theadmin> slaptman: Just add "compiz --replace" to the startup?
[06:42] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: just run:  compiz --replace    and it should run instead of xwin4
[06:42] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: It's "xfwm4"
[06:42] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: close ;)
[06:42] <slaptman> thanks!!!!you are a life saver !!
[06:42] <Glacia> yep its parted
[06:43] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: eyecandy is hardly a huge issue...
[06:43]  * lotuspsychje likes eyecandy
[06:43] <theadmin> Glacia: Well, the point is basically remove ALL the partitions and create only ONE partition.
[06:43] <theadmin> eyecandy == slow == meh
[06:43] <Glacia> i cant remember how to do that on windows >.<
[06:43] <slaptman> need to zoom in the desktop only
[06:44] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: +1
[06:44] <theadmin> Glacia: Are you on Windows or Ubuntu right now?
[06:44] <slaptman> dont care about the bling
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: on ssd and 64bit nothings slow here
[06:44] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Still slower than normal, even if you don't notice it
[06:44] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: ahh, why not use xmag then :)
[06:44] <Glacia> windows
[06:44] <ActionPa1snip> !info xmag
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> theadmin:true
[06:45] <theadmin> Glacia: Start -> Control Panel -> Administrative tools -> Computer management -> Storage -> Disk Management
[06:45] <ActionPa1snip> slaptman: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/xmag.1.html
[06:45] <Glacia> im in there now
[06:47] <Groan> is there an easy way to reinstall dbus? my dbus just won't work.
[06:47] <slaptman> yes i would rather do that
[06:48] <theadmin> Groan: "won't work"? dbus? Are you sure it's configured to start at boot?
[06:50] <basil_kurian_> I have a problem with sub domain delegation in Bind
[06:50] <basil_kurian_> can some on ehelp me
[06:51] <Joker_toji> hey
[06:51] <Glacia> theadmin, what now?
[06:51] <Joker_toji> anyone here who can help me with
[06:51] <Joker_toji> lightdm
[06:51] <Joker_toji> I changed the background image
[06:52] <Joker_toji> and now it is blank
[06:52] <Joker_toji> anyone???
[06:52] <theadmin> Glacia: Huh? The rest should be fairly obvious... Bah. Got TeamViewer? PM me with the login details, I'll do it myself
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:53] <Glacia> i dont hold on
[06:53] <Glacia> actually i cant use teamviewer
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: you know howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer on an older laptop?
[06:54] <Glacia> it shows an unallocated part and when i right click it shows nothing to click
[06:54] <Joker_toji> light dm help plz!
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: reformat the whole usb stick
[06:54] <theadmin> Glacia: Oh, okay. Well, anyway, in the bottom part of the window find your USB drive. You'll see small white bits, partitions. Right click every of them and choose "Delete", and when you're done with that right-click the large unallocated space and you're done. We don't really support Windows here, if you need more help please go to a private message session with me.
[06:55] <theadmin> Joker_toji: Patience.
[06:55] <ryoohki> how do i install a package held back?
[06:55] <Glacia> ok
[06:55] <Joker_toji> theadmin: okay :)
[06:55] <ryoohki> oneric has fwbuilder 4.2 and fwbuilder 5.1 is out
[06:55] <theadmin> ryoohki: Try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" before installing it.
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !info fwbuilder
[06:55] <Glacia> the delete volume is not highlighted to click on
[06:56] <theadmin> Glacia: pm, pm.
[06:56] <theadmin> ryoohki: Ubuntu often has outdated software.
[06:56] <ryoohki> theadmin: thanks but no effect
[06:56] <ryoohki> theadmin: i noticed but it is better than debian regarding currentness
[06:57] <ryoohki> theadmin: so what now?  fwbuilder is still held back
[06:58] <theadmin> ryoohki: It's not "held back", there just is NO newer version. 4.2.2 is the latest in oneiric.
[06:58] <theadmin> ryoohki: Search for a ppa or build from source
[06:58] <ryoohki> theadmin: no - i added a fwbulder.list to /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[06:58] <ryoohki> theadmin: it can see the new fwbuilder but i won't install it
[06:59] <theadmin> ryoohki: Ok... Try using aptitude -- sudo aptitude install fwbuilder -- it will tell you what's wrong, at least
[06:59] <ryoohki> The following packages have been kept back: fwbuilder
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> ryoohki: did you add ppa lines in your software centre?
[06:59] <OKTOKT> I can't seem to get any lights out of my wired ethernet card. Any suggestions on where to start?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: did you connect on cabled network
[07:01] <ActionPa1snip> Joker_toji: set it back so it works then retry
[07:01] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: What do you mean? I'm not able to link up my machine and router. There are no lights on the ports.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: in the right corner, did you click on cabled network to activate?
[07:03] <ryoohki> ryoohki: i had to purge the old fwbuilder fwbuilder-common fwbuilder-doc
[07:03] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: It says it's 'disconnected'
[07:03] <ryoohki> lotuspsychje: no, just to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/fwbuilder.list
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT:try to connect to cabled network
[07:04] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: There are no options to connect to any. I've tried to setup a configuration for one, however it says that the cable is disconnected. Which it isn't
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: are you sure your cables are connected the right way into router?
[07:05] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: Yes, this isn't a case of my network cable being routed into the WAN port for example... The cable is also good.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> OKTOKT: are your network card drivers installed on ocelot?
[07:07] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: I'm running lucid
[07:07] <OKTOKT> sky2 drivers for my device.
[07:07] <OKTOKT> lotuspsychje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1913038
[07:08] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: if you unload then reload the module. Is it ok?
[07:08] <Groan> theadmin: i was having some trouble with the default install on oneiric so i did a make on the git repository and installed it. that seems to have broken it completely and now it won't start
[07:08] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: What is the command to unload the sky2 module?
[07:08] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Also I'd assume it's a modprobe to reload it?
[07:08] <theadmin> Groan: Hm, you need to reinstall the package from apt basically
[07:09] <Groan> theadmin: it won't seem to overwrite my custom install
[07:09] <Groan> and it definitely won't start
[07:09] <theadmin> Groan: sudo apt-get --force --reinstall install dbus # Does this work?
[07:09] <Groan> nope
[07:09] <Groan> tried that
[07:09] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: sudo modprobe -r sky2; sleep 2; sudo modprobe sky2
[07:10] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: the pause gives the system chance to stop etc
[07:10] <Joker_toji> ActionPa1snip: didn't work
[07:10] <Pseudoephedrine> I am trying to find a good tutorial of how i can use my server as a web server, i was just wondering if anyone would happen to have a good link to a tutorial? With step by step information from start to finish if possible. I would be really greatful!
[07:10] <Groan> well let me try it with the force
[07:10] <Groan> option
[07:10] <Joker_toji> now even the default is not set
[07:10] <Joker_toji> I tried editing the unity greeter conf file
[07:10] <Joker_toji> didn't work
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !server | Pseudoephedrine
[07:11] <Pseudoephedrine> lotuspsychje: Not exactly what i am looking for but thanks ;)
[07:11] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Looks like I got lights... I knew it was the module...
[07:11] <extor> Is anyone familiar with xvnc on ubuntu and would you also know whether this binary Xvnc is no longer provided? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/Xvnc4.1.html
[07:11] <Pseudoephedrine> lotuspsychje: I already have Ubuntu setup, i want to turn it into a web server for hosting a website
[07:11] <pangolin> !lamp
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> alot of good help here :p
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !vnc
[07:13] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: was that for me by any chance?
[07:13] <pangolin> Pseudoephedrine: it was
[07:13] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: thanks
[07:14] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: will LAMP also work on a Debian system?
[07:14] <Groan> theadmin: force is not udnerstood
[07:15] <Groan> --force
[07:15] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: ok is it connecting now?
[07:16] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: if it does, add the command in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0   line and it will run automagically at boot.
[07:16] <pangolin> Pseudoephedrine: if you are running debian you should ask in #debian
[07:16] <Pseudoephedrine> pangolin: No i am just wondering if it would also work on a Debian machine, i have Ubuntu.
[07:16] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: It doesn't seem to be getting it's DHCP lease
[07:17] <pangolin> Pseudoephedrine: package names may be slightly different, honestly not sure.
[07:18] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: is the interface still eth0?
[07:18] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: if so, run:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[07:19] <Groan> and when i do that i keep getting a "Failed to connect to scoket system_bus_socket
[07:21] <Emanon> So I've got a problem, ubuntu keeps changing what software it uses for certain things (which is fine) but they keep changing to things with LESS functionality. Rhythmbox to banshee (less plugins, less options, less everything) pidgin to empathy (NO plugins, no security, no way in hell I'm using it) evolution to thunderbird (great options HORRIBLE integration with the rest of the desktop (calendar and so forth) what's the deal?
[07:21] <Glacia> in my installer what should i set my installation size at? does it matter what the size is?
[07:22] <cipher__> Is there a utility to change gtk3 themes?
[07:23] <urlin2u> Emanon, you can remove and install what you want most of the time, and the open source area has a lot of choices.
[07:24] <hiddensoul> Emanon, you could always just install a bare debian install and install what you want
[07:24] <Groan> i already have ubuntu installed. I'm trying to reinstall it. the installer refuses to see my HDD unless i'm in recovery mode. Any idea how to get past this?
[07:24] <Emanon> I am aware I just wanted to know why the devs are picking such lacking programs to default to?
[07:25] <urlin2u> Groan, what are you trying to reinstall with?
[07:25] <Acme> I agree Emanon, I used love all the defaults, now I think twice before installing newer versions, I rarely have time for much customization anymore
[07:25] <Emanon> I actually LIKE (nearly love) ubuntu I just dislike the direction it seems to be taking.
[07:25] <cipher__> How do I install a gtk3 theme?
[07:25] <Groan> urlin2u: bootable usb oneiric server 64bit
[07:25] <urlin2u> Emanon, I think you would have to ask them, not everybody can be served.
[07:25] <cipher__> Emanon, 7.04-10.04 was great
[07:25] <hiddensoul> Emanon, part of it is a shift away from the desktop to using ubuntu on thiings like tablets, phones and car entertainment systems etc
[07:25] <urlin2u> Groan, where are you getting a recovery access at
[07:26] <cipher__> it's becoming too restrictive.
[07:26] <Emanon> There is no excuse for using empathy, it has NO security  whatsoever and the empathy/telepathy devs seem to be actually intentionally denying many requests to put otr and such seriously important options into it.
[07:26] <Groan> urlin2u: through the installer, its an option before i pick "install ubuntu"
[07:26] <urlin2u> Groan, actually I'm not familiar with the server setup.
[07:26] <Groan> i doubt it's much different?
[07:26] <cipher__> installing gtk3 anyone?
[07:27] <cipher__> theme*
[07:27] <Acme> so basically the desktop is not their priority anymore?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Emanon : like urlin2u says opensource has lots of options, with many good packages
[07:27] <Emanon> And why is moving to mobile devices a good reason to make things insecure?
[07:27] <hiddensoul> Acme, http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/31/ubuntu-coming-to-tablets-phones-cars-and-smart-tvs-by-2014/
[07:27] <Emanon> Shouldn't devices with the potential to track us and such have even BETTER security?
[07:27] <Glacia> sorry i crashed
[07:28] <pp7> Glacia: hope u have insurance :P
[07:28] <Glacia> ha!
[07:28] <Emanon> Especially given the rising threat of internet censorship worldwide.
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic
[07:28] <urlin2u> we might recognize when these ideas are our own personal opinions and may not represent everybody Emanon and Acme
[07:28] <Emanon> SOPA, PIPA, PC-IPA, ACTA and whatnot.
[07:29] <urlin2u> what doe sopa have to do with ubuntu
[07:29] <urlin2u> does
[07:29] <Emanon> I just think ubuntu should continue it's awesome work by providing a SAFE platform for the future.
[07:29] <Glacia> anywho... in my ubuntu installer does it matter what the installer size is?
[07:29] <Emanon> One we can rely on to have the security of our data at the forefront.
[07:29] <urlin2u> Emanon, what you getting pwnd?
[07:29] <bazhang> !ot | Emanon
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:30] <share> ^
[07:30] <Emanon> Is there a #ubuntu-devs channel or something?
[07:30] <bazhang> Emanon, it's not a support channel
[07:30] <bazhang> Emanon, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <Emanon> I'm not looking for support, I KNOW how to fiddle with it to make it do what I want I just want to know why that isn't the default?
[07:31] <bazhang> Emanon, talking about sopa etc is not a support issue. lets move on
[07:31] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, does the installation size matter when installing ubuntu?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Glacia, are you installing ubuntu now?
[07:32] <earlybirdd> hey guys whats the best ubuntu release for a newbie to get started with
[07:32] <Glacia> yes
[07:32] <earlybirdd> ive never used linux before and want to check out what its capable of
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Glacia:depends on what you want dualboot or single boot?
[07:32] <hiddensoul> earlybirdd, download the latest livecd and run from that to try it out
[07:33] <Glacia> single on a 16gb hdd
[07:33] <Emanon> earlybirdd: there are only 2 releases of normal ubuntu atm Desktop and Alternate.
[07:33] <Emanon> Try Desktop it's easier to jump into.
[07:33] <[deXter]> O.o
[07:33] <earlybirdd> what is the difference if you dont mind me asking briefly?
[07:33] <urlin2u> earlybirdd, the longterm is 10.04 11.10 the latest 12.04 the next long term, the best is what you think it is.
[07:33] <goddard> After updating using the new kernel to boot it just hangs at the ubuntu logo
[07:33] <airtonix> Emanon: two as far as this channel is concerned, there is however more than that
[07:33] <Emanon> Desktop is a live disk which means you can use it without installing just to test it out earlybirdd
[07:33] <bazhang> Emanon, thats not correct. there is minimal as well
[07:33] <[deXter]> Emanon, I'm sure earlybird meant Ubuntu v/s Kubuntu v/s Lubuntu etc
[07:33] <Emanon> Oh pardon I forgot minimal you're right.
[07:34] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, single boot on a 16gb HDD
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: you could use the whole usb drive yes
[07:34] <earlybirdd> Thats cool i plan on dual booting anyway so ill have this permanently
[07:34] <Groan> is there a way to make my installer see my fakeraid drives?
[07:34] <Emanon> Alternate offers extra options such as RAID LVM and LUKS
[07:35] <earlybirdd> Is it possible to say log out of windows and log into your dual booted linux partition via VNC?
[07:35] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, but the question is if i dont want to would using the 3gb installation size be any better or worse than the 10gb size?
[07:35] <Groan> oh. so i have to use the alternate cd/
[07:35] <Emanon> Unless you need to use raid, lvm or full disk encryption  I'd say use the desktop earlybirdd.
[07:35] <hiddensoul> earlybirdd, no, but you could install windows in a Virtual Machine
[07:35] <Emanon> It offers the most commonly used tasks without much in depth knowledge required.
[07:36] <Acme> earlybirdd , fo rthat you probably would need to run one session in a virtual machine
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: size is your own choice to partition
[07:36] <Emanon> You could even use a virtual machine to a physical drive so you could use the same windows install as a VM or actually boot into it directly.
[07:36] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, so there is no difference between them?
[07:36] <earlybirdd> AHh
[07:36] <Groan> I have a raid1 array defined in dmraid, if i completely wipe my system and install a new distro, will my raid disappear?
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Glacia: if the install accept your size there's no difference
[07:37] <Glacia> lotuspsychje, ok ty
[07:37] <earlybirdd> I suppose loading linux in a VM in windows is a completley idiotic idea?
[07:37] <Emanon> But if you plan to have both running simultaneously I'd warn you, ubuntu plays nicer in a VM than windows.
[07:37] <airtonix> earlybirdd: not really
[07:37] <Emanon> NO it isn't an idiotic idea earlybirdd
[07:37] <pp7> earlybirdd: depends
[07:37] <Emanon> Ubuntu runs better as a vm on windows than windows does as a vm on ubuntu.
[07:37] <airtonix> that's debatable
[07:38] <earlybirdd> Sweet
[07:38] <Emanon> In my experience that is.
[07:38] <Acme> oks question, I have dual boot, windows, ubuntu. Need to reinstall windows, what is the process to reconfigure the bootloader so I can access ubuntu again?
[07:38] <earlybirdd> What im aiming to do is set up a Server in Ubuntu In Windows...
[07:38] <earlybirdd> A FTP/HTTP server
[07:38] <hiddensoul> I run windows in VMware in seamless mode on my linux laptop, I need the Windows install for tech support
[07:38] <hiddensoul> runs fine
[07:38] <Emanon> There will be a lot of overhead due to it being a VM but it's doable earlybirdd.
[07:38] <urlin2u> Emanon, thank you I find W7 much better in a vm then ubuntu ever has been, and I hardly ever use it
[07:38] <airtonix> earlybirdd: you're going to have to look at how to get bridged networking allowable on the host then.
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> lol alotta emulation here
[07:39] <Emanon> Yes windows RUNS just fine in VM you just can't do much with it.
[07:39] <earlybirdd> Cant i remotely access the VM ?
[07:39] <Emanon> The only things I need windows for it won't do in a vm properly.
[07:39] <Emanon> Netflix and certain games.
[07:39] <Acme> earlybird uf it is not a critical app, or massive production system, living as a virtual machine should be fine
[07:39] <dies_irae> w00t
[07:40] <hiddensoul> fair enough Emanon , but for 2D stuff it works for me
[07:40] <airtonix> earlybirdd: you're obviously expecting other users on your network to access this "vm ubuntu server which is a ftp/http service" ?
[07:40] <Emanon> Acme: is right though, what you want to do should work fine with a little effort.
[07:40] <Acme> yes, the virtual machine will have network ID if you configure it, so you can run VNCserver, ftp, sshserver, etc
[07:40] <earlybirdd> sure it' really a personal thing but further down the track maybe?
[07:40] <dies_irae> xen + IOMMU way to go for simultanous Linux/m$$$$$
[07:40] <dies_irae> without compromising m$$$$ dx11
[07:41] <Acme> and from outside, you just access it as it was a real remote machine
[07:41] <airtonix> earlybirdd: then by default virtualbox will provide your vm with NAT only networking, but you can change it to BRIDGED so that the vm exists on the same network as your host machine.
[07:41] <Emanon> You can actually install each system as a bootable system then make both accessible from the other via a VM so you can boot into or run virtualized either side of your dual boot.
[07:41] <Emanon> It's a little more complicated but it offers some distinct advantages to VM or dualboot alone.
[07:42] <earlybirdd> I see
[07:42] <Acme> yeah, I work in a similar setup, corporate windows hosting virtual machine ubuntu, with virtualbox, I never spend much time on network setup so I access it by ip
[07:42] <airtonix> earlybirdd: this is a setting in the virtualbox vm settings under networking, its a drop down menu with a few options.
[07:42] <Acme> with vnc, ssh
[07:42] <earlybirdd> That sounds pretty clever...
[07:43] <airtonix> Acme: i'm using archipel to drive libvirtd now, virtualbox headless is kinds subpar for server vm hosting
[07:43] <earlybirdd> so the Virtual Machine is based on the Dual booted OS?
[07:43] <earlybirdd> and visa versa?
[07:43] <Emanon> Well the virtual machine IS the dual booted os.
[07:43] <earlybirdd> ya
[07:43] <Emanon> You just run the dual boot drive in the VM rather than making a VM separately.
[07:43] <earlybirdd> Great...i thought it would be two different instances
[07:43] <Emanon> Nope same instance.
[07:43] <airtonix> earlybirdd: you run windows, install virtualbox, create a vm, tell it to boot from a ubuntu livecd ISO file and then you have it running inside windows
[07:43] <Acme> I have read some about the headless mode, I have not tried, but yeah if is only for remote access that is better
[07:44] <Acme> in my case, while in office I access it directly, when at home, by vnc
[07:44] <airtonix> Acme: there is phpvirtualbox available to manage it
[07:44] <Acme> cool, I will try to read about it, tnks
[07:44] <airtonix> Acme: which is exactly the same provisions as the desktop gui configuration application
[07:44] <Emanon> Or you tell virtualbox on windows to use your ubuntu drive as it's drive and tell virt-manager on ubuntu to use windows' drive.
[07:45] <Emanon> It's a little bit of a pita in virtualbox but dead simple in virt-manager.
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> !info phpvirtualbox
[07:45] <airtonix> lotuspsychje: it's not official nor in the repo
[07:45] <ariasbeep> hello everybody I got a sony bluetooth headset, bluetooth hardware of my notebook paired headset so well but I can configure it like headphones
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> airtonix: ok tnx
[07:46] <ariasbeep> the model is sony dr-bt22a
[07:47] <Emanon> brb.
[07:47] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, you need to find out if it (headphones) support the headphone profile, they may only support the headset profile
[07:47] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, and I do that with?
[07:47] <earlybirdd> Hey a question...what are some benefits of Ubuntu? Anyone mind pointing out? I dont get how so many people can use an OS .....say compared to windows..maybe theres a site which explains the flaws /benefits of each?
[07:47] <scientes_> Jan 21 23:46:58 ubuntu-SD kernel: [65590.108105] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device number 126 using ohci_hcd
[07:47] <scientes_> Jan 21 23:46:58 ubuntu-SD kernel: [65590.334170] scsi11 : usb-storage 2-2:1.0
[07:47] <earlybirdd> Maybe there are a few applications I'm missing out on?
[07:47] <scientes_> but it doesn't show up in fdisk -l
[07:48] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, by reading the manual that came with the headphones
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> earlybirdd: easy,safe,never crashes
[07:49] <hiddensoul> earlybirdd, my ubuntu server has been up for 12 and a half months with no reboot, that is one reason
[07:49] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, but it works so well with Ipod touch, windows 7 and htc incredible, and I did read somebody in a forum who said it worked on his mini laptop
[07:49] <pp7> hiddensoul: any reason why my server slows down after a few months?
[07:49] <cis> hiddensoul: server vs workstation are two different stories. i think he's asking from an enduser workstation perspective
[07:49] <pp7> hiddensoul: reboot fixes it
[07:50] <cis> earlybirdd: care to clarify?
[07:50] <hiddensoul> cis, cool :)
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> earlybirdd: i installed ubuntu for older friends too, they never been able to crash their machine
[07:50] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, the headphones appeared on my notebook's bluetooth scanner
[07:50] <hiddensoul> pp7, maybe something is having a go at the ram, memory leak somewhere ?
[07:51] <pp7> hmm
[07:51] <pp7> hiddensoul: naa i checks and ram was fine, seemed to be disk io related
[07:51] <pp7> checked*
[07:51] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, I dont have any bluetooth headsets to play with so I cant really help much more then that.
[07:52] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, ok
[07:52] <mozammel> how to set mountpoint to ext4 partition?
[07:52] <urlin2u> mozammel, when?
[07:52] <scientes_> where is the kernel config file?
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast
[07:53] <ariasbeep> anybody here knows how to configure a bluetooth headset to received sound of notebook?
[07:53] <Pseudoephedrine> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
[07:53] <Pseudoephedrine>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:53] <mozammel> after installation
[07:53] <Emanon> I'm back, please hold your applause.
[07:53] <airtonix> ok
[07:53] <hiddensoul> wb Emanon
[07:54] <urlin2u> mozammel, what is the goal here in the end?
[07:54] <ariasbeep> I am able to have blueman discover and successfully connect with the headphones but music will only play on the built in speaker
[07:54] <Emanon> Right click on the volume icon in your bar ariasbeep select "Sound Settings"
[07:54] <hiddensoul> ariasbeep, have you had a look in system-preferences-sound to see if it there as a sound device after you have paired it ?
[07:54] <Emanon> ariasbeep: select the "Output" tab. Select your headset.
[07:55] <ariasbeep> hiddensoul, Emanon, I tried that...long time ago xD
[07:55] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine "sudo apt-get build-dep"
[07:56] <Emanon> Sorry just came back from getting REAL IM, Email, and media players
[07:56] <Acme> earlybird, about your question on benefits of ubuntu
[07:57] <Acme> Linux is based on Unix, it gives it a lot of differences with windows, but
[07:57] <kenta> hi
[07:57] <Emanon> But also a lot of advantages.
[07:58] <Acme> in practical terms at least for me,  I love the bash capabilities, windows can;t just compete with bash
[07:58] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: E: Must specify at least one package to check builddeps for
[07:58] <Emanon> Such as userspace separation from the main bulk of the system and from other users to prevent cross contamination in the event of some security breach.
[07:58] <hiddensoul> I have to second that Acme I love bash and ssh is so much quicker then vnc
[07:58] <Myrtti> alright, you're starting to wander a bit far from the topic of the channel which isn't comparison of different operating systems or even linux distributions
[07:58] <Acme> now, after a while developing software, you notice some filesystem operations just seem to be much faster on linux
[07:58] <Emanon> The command line kicks windows butt.
[07:58] <kenta> bi!!
[07:59] <Chipzzz> Psuedoephedrine: add the package you were trying to install to the end of the line
[07:59] <mozammel> urlin2u: i just intall ubunt 11.10, i have 3 other ext4 partition, i want it permanetly, though its automount when i click on it. i just want to set a custom mountpoin
[07:59] <Emanon> Big name games are a bit lacking as is support for some moneygrubbing services like netflix.
[07:59] <Acme> oks oks, I was just anwering earlybird
[07:59] <urlin2u> mozammel, sorry I don't understand that.
[08:00] <Acme> to finalize, it depends on what you use the computer for,  for some people uses it maybe it does not matter what the use, for some uses, it may be critical
[08:00] <scientes_> where is the cgit? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelGitGuide?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam%2FKernelGitGuide
[08:00] <Emanon> Precisely.
[08:00] <scientes_> I
[08:00] <Chipzzz> mozammel: if you want it permanently mounted you have to add it to your /etc/fstab
[08:00] <scientes_> 'm just trying to see the ubuntu kernel
[08:00] <scientes_> 's  config
[08:01] <scientes_> and you bimbos didn't turn on tproc/config.gz
[08:01] <kenta> hi!
[08:01] <Acme> oks my question again, dual both Windows/ubuntu, I need to reinstall windows, how do I restore the bootloader?
[08:01] <kenta> こんにちは
[08:01] <urlin2u> !grub > Acme
[08:01] <Emanon> Windows or ubuntu bootloader?
[08:02] <Emanon> Or just listen to urlin2u's ubottu forward.
[08:02] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: Ok, all of that seemed to go alright. Does that mean mysql-server mysql-client are both installed now?
[08:02] <ariasbeep> anybody here knows how to configure a bluetooth headset to received sound of notebook?
[08:02] <urlin2u> ! cn > kenta
[08:02] <ariasbeep> I am able to have blueman discover and successfully connect with the headphones but music will only play on the built in speaker
[08:02] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: hopefully
[08:02] <Myrtti> !jp > kenta
[08:03] <kenta> yes
[08:03] <Acme> oks thanks I got a link from the bot, thanks
[08:03] <Emanon> That was chinese? I thoght it was japanese too lol.
[08:03] <earlybirdd> cis well i just wanted to know how why so many people use it? especially nerds? is there some sort of package system that I dont get...or is windows that much of a fuck up?
[08:03] <urlin2u> I wasn't sure
[08:03] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: How would i know?
[08:03] <pp7> kenta: こんにちは ?
[08:03] <Myrtti> urlin2u: I always do a whois on the commandline for the ip
[08:03] <Emanon> earlybirdd: A little of both.
[08:03] <urlin2u> Myrtti, that makes sense
[08:03] <urlin2u> :D
[08:03] <Myrtti> urlin2u: country:        JP
[08:03] <Emanon> It's a bit of nerd cred to use a nonstandard OS but also windows has some longstanding issues some of us can't stand.
[08:03] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: try "sudo apt-get check" and see if it complains about anything
[08:04] <kenta> is this not japanese commnity?
[08:04] <Zujamulex> !zh > kenta
[08:04] <Myrtti> kenta: no
[08:04] <Zujamulex> xD
[08:04] <Zujamulex> kenta: : this is the english one, read !jp
[08:04] <michael__> Need Help. I installed Ubuntu so that it wouldn't delete windows. I have been using Ubuntu for 5 days now and decided to boot windowsXP. All I get is a blank screen. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!
[08:04] <Zujamulex> !jp | kenta
[08:04] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: No problems, Thanks
[08:04] <Chipzzz> :)
[08:04] <kenta> thank you!!
[08:05] <Zujamulex> kenta: are you blind, CHECK YOUR PMs
[08:05] <Myrtti> Zujamulex: tsk, be nice
[08:05] <Emanon> michael__: Does windows show up as an option when you boot the computer? Underneath Ubuntu on some sort of selection screen?
[08:05] <Zujamulex> michael__: hmm, it does
[08:06] <michael__> Yes. WindowsXP shows up as a boot option
[08:06] <Zujamulex> does it show anything?
[08:06] <Zujamulex> and u can select it?
[08:06] <Emanon> And when you select it nothing happens?
[08:06] <michael__> When selected, i get a black screen
[08:06] <urlin2u> michael__, did you resize the XP before installing and make sure it worked?
[08:07] <michael__> I kept the disk partition at default when i installed ubuntu
[08:07] <michael__> 20GB for Ubuntu and 48GB for XP
[08:08] <urlin2u> michael__,  have you run a update-grub?
[08:08] <danny> hello i am trying to install ubuntu 11.10 along side windows but when i use the install its trying to install on the wrong partition or w.e there is a 41.1mb a 12.3gb and a 307.7 gb one and it is installing on the 12.3 how do i make it install on the 307 so i can acolate space to split it into 170 windows 7 and 130 ubuntu 11.10
[08:08] <michael__> i don't think so
[08:08] <earlybirdd> Would there be security flaws via windows If i setup Ubuntu in a VM with a web server?
[08:08] <cipher__> is there a flag to remove the menubar on gnome-terminal?
[08:08] <Emanon> No more than normal earlybirdd.
[08:08] <urlin2u> michael__, try in the terminal sudo update-grub
[08:08] <cipher__> the radio button doesn't work
[08:09] <spartan7> hey guys im trying to install ubuntu 11.10 onto an hp dv2000 and if my screen turns off I cannot get it to come on again. Also after install if the screen ever turns off I cannot get it to turn on again. Is there a fix for this?
[08:09] <urlin2u> danny, you need to use the something other the custom install.
[08:09] <cipher__> spartan7, try acpi=noirq
[08:09] <cipher__> on the boot options
[08:09] <michael__> @ Urlin2u finished
[08:09] <urlin2u> michael__, try rebooting and see if XP boots
[08:09] <cipher__> press f6, then exit, then after the two dashes "--" type that, hit enter.
[08:10] <Emanon> cipher__:  right click in the terminal and uncheck "Show Menu Bar"
[08:10] <Zujamulex> spartan7: same here, monitor Out of Range!
[08:10] <cipher__> Emanon, it's a well documented bug, doesn't work in ubuntu 11.10
[08:10] <michael__> ok, ill rejoin chat room if problem continues
[08:10] <danny> urlin2u, well there is the advanced partioning but idk how to use it and its my friends computer and i dont wanna delete anything that doesnt have to be deleted
[08:10] <cipher__> Emanon, infact there are all kinds of gui issues
[08:10] <Emanon> Oh pardon.
[08:10] <spartan7> cipher__: is that at grub before install?
[08:10] <Emanon> That's actually one bug I've never seen.
[08:10] <cipher__> sorry I didn't mean to come off abrasive
[08:10] <Emanon> It's ok bud.
[08:11] <Zujamulex> spartan7: it only shows up after booting, when display changes
[08:11] <cipher__> spartan7, are you trying to use the livecd, or did you install
[08:11] <Emanon> I didn't think you had.
[08:11] <cipher__> ha okay
[08:11] <spartan7> Zujamulex:  I dont even get that. everything is fine until the screen turns of for whatever reason.
[08:11] <spartan7> cipher__: both
[08:11] <urlin2u> danny, you can use the custom install click the partition you want, has to be a ext4 hit change then activate it put ? in the mount and install.
[08:11] <cipher__> well in grub hit e. then after you see the word quite add this with a space beforehand: acpi=noirq
[08:12] <Zujamulex> spartan7: after POST is fine?
[08:12] <Zujamulex> spartan7: do you see grub?
[08:12] <Zujamulex> spartan7: i cannot even see grub
[08:13] <spartan7> Zujamulex: I see grub. I can see everything but if the screen goes off I need to do a hard reset
[08:13] <urlin2u> danny, sorry mount is /
[08:13] <cis> earlybirdd: i personally prefer *nix OS because they are designed in a much saner manner and generally conform to logic more closely. Aside from that, OOB *nix has a much more feature rich and powerful tool set that i like having at my fingertips.
[08:13] <Zujamulex> spartan7: when grub appears, there's where i start seeing Out of Range, it comes back when it finished kernel boot and it changed the resolution
[08:13] <spartan7> cipher__: will try
[08:13] <cipher__> good luck
[08:13] <danny> urlin2u, well the partition that has windows on it is /dev/sda3 ntfs and that is the one i want to put half and half and if i do what u said its not gonna erase windows right ?
[08:13] <share> why Ubuntu switched from openoffice to libreoffic?
[08:13] <cipher__> spartan7,
[08:13] <Emanon> earlybirdd: Whereas I value it due to a greater range of options to maintain security.
[08:13] <cipher__> after you add it hit f10
[08:13] <cipher__> that will continue with the amendment
[08:14] <spartan7> cipher__: yea? do I need to do this everytie I bootup
[08:14] <danny> share, i like libre better and theres prolly other ppl like me out there
[08:14] <cipher__> you can make it persistent if it works
[08:14] <cipher__> so no
[08:14] <cipher__> assuming it works
[08:14] <cis> but each of us "nerds" will have our own reasons i'm sure.
[08:14] <cipher__> I am just guessing tbh
[08:14] <danny> share, very easy to swicth back to open if u are different
[08:14] <[deXter]> share, Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice#Initial_release
[08:14] <Emanon> share: I think it was due to libre maintaining complete open source whereas openoffice got bought back a little.
[08:14] <Emanon> Though I could be wrong.
[08:14] <Zujamulex> spartan7....
[08:14] <michael> Hello, Problem continues to persist
[08:14] <urlin2u> danny, you need to shrink the ntfs and make a ext4, and be aware of the limitations of the amount of partitions you can have,  can you run sudo fdisk -l in the ubuntu terminal and post the output
[08:15] <spartan7> Zujamulex: yea?
[08:15] <Emanon> To be honest I'm a geek not a nerd ;-)
[08:15] <share> Emanon: ok tks :)
[08:15] <Emanon> np share.
[08:15] <danny> urlin2u, im useing a cd i think so ? ill try right now
[08:15] <hiddensoul> Geek by nature, linux by choice
[08:15] <Guest68631> Sorry, accidentally logged in as Guest. I was michael_
[08:15] <Zujamulex> spartan7: just,
[08:16] <Guest68631> problem still persists  urlin2u
[08:16] <Zujamulex> spartan7: any idea about this boot monitorstuff?
[08:16] <Emanon> Linux by lack of choice. There's just no other way (save BSD) to get the kind of options linux offers.
[08:16] <danny> urlin2u, actully no i cant comp doesnt have internet
[08:16] <Guest68631> I still get a blank screen
[08:16] <Emanon> And BSD has always been a painfor me.
[08:16] <hiddensoul> Emanon, yeah same here, allthough my web/file server runs BSD
[08:17] <Guest68631> @ urln2u    brb visitors
[08:17] <spartan7> Zujamulex: is it also a dv2000?
[08:17] <Emanon> It IS the better option but it's a little TOO UNIXy for me.
[08:17] <urlin2u> Guest68105, we have a script we use to show whats is where paste3bin the results.text  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[08:17] <cipher__> I am running ubuntu 11.10 and openbox. I am using gtk-chtheme (i also tried changing options through gnome-tweak-tool, and gconf-editor, by manually editing the theme value) and a few gnome utilities in an attempt to change themes. Very few programs register the chance: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png .... On the left I activated the theme, then proceeded to open the windows on the right to demonstrate the issue. If anyone could help
[08:17] <cipher__> me fix this I would be very greatful. I have been trying to fix it for many hours.
[08:17] <Emanon> I've been really wanting to switch to openbsd for a while but I just don't have the stones.
[08:17] <Acme> oks other question, after I ugraded to 11.10, I kept using gnome but I dont have all those fancy 3d desktop effects, and I have not have luck enabling them again, any link I could read?
[08:17] <cipher__> the change*
[08:17] <Pseudoephedrine> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:17] <Pseudoephedrine>  mysql-server
[08:17] <spartan7> Zujamulex: do you get bios screen?
[08:18] <Zujamulex> spartan7: almost
[08:18] <urlin2u> danny, how many partitons do you see if you open gparted in ubuntu?
[08:18] <Zujamulex> spartan7: yes, it shows post fine
[08:18] <Zujamulex> spartan7: OofR starts right when disk boots
[08:19] <cipher__> if anyone want to try and team view into my laptop and take a look, i would appreciate it, plus think of all the nefarious things you could try :p
[08:19] <Emanon> Most of us are fairly benign actually.
[08:19] <joeko> Hi how can I determine the source repository of a package
[08:19] <Zujamulex> spartan7, and?
[08:20] <Zujamulex> joeko: use synaptic columns
[08:20] <cipher__> Emanon, feel like lurking through my computer
[08:20] <Emanon> Won't find many nefarious people in the ubuntu helpchannel I fear.
[08:20] <joeko> Zujamulex, thanks
[08:21] <Acme> oks other question, after I ugraded to 11.10, I kept using gnome but I dont have all those fancy 3d desktop effects, and I have not have luck enabling them again, any link I could read?
[08:21] <Emanon> I mean it's not like we're in a backtrack channel. ;-)
[08:21] <cipher__> technoviking: http://tinyurl.com/4o5nvxh
[08:21] <spartan7> Zujamulex: thinking.
[08:21] <Emanon> Technoviking is the shiz.
[08:22] <hiddensoul> cipher__, that sounds like work, where do I send the invoice to ?
[08:22] <spartan7> Zujamulex: wierd you dont even get to grub.
[08:23] <Emanon> BTW what ever happened to the pretty grub screens ubuntu used to have?
[08:23] <cipher__> hiddensoul, you can contact us at Central Intelligence Agency, Office of Public Affairs, Washington, D.C. 20505
[08:24] <hiddensoul> lol cipher__
[08:24] <Emanon> It used to fit the theme but with the recent releases it looks like I'm booting up a commodore 64
[08:24] <hiddensoul> Emanon, my first PC was an SX64 now that was portable (NOT)
[08:24] <cipher__> My computers theme as well looks archaic now that 11.10 was installed
[08:24] <Emanon> First one for me was C128.
[08:24] <Zujamulex> spartan7: nope, looks like it passes grub, and kernel stage too, when it shows up again it's the moment where the kernel finised changing display resolution
[08:25] <Zujamulex> and i have dx2200
[08:25] <Zujamulex> so closer
[08:28] <Emanon> Is it weird that this early alpha live disk of 12.04 is more stable than 11.10?
[08:28] <cipher__> I hate 11.10
[08:28] <airtonix> suitable answer
[08:28] <Emanon> So it's not just me?
[08:29] <Acme> mm I have the same impression, 11.10 not as good as previous releases
[08:29]  * lotuspsychje likes ocelot
[08:29] <Emanon> Oh  man I have 33 gigs of ebooks to organize.
[08:30] <urlin2u> Acme, its hardly any differnt the natty just upgraded app.
[08:30] <hiddensoul> Emanon, I know that feeling, I have 2TB in the file server and I need to reorganise it soon so I can upgrade the harddrive, we are running out of room
[08:30] <arex\> are there any good tools for detecting and converting encoding/charsets of textfiles?
[08:31] <Emanon> 2tb of ebooks or just data in general?
[08:31] <Emanon> I like calibre,
[08:31] <hiddensoul> Emanon, data in general about 25GB ebooks
[08:31] <vagy> i just installed fancontrol but it seems it doesnt support reading the temp value from an arbitrary user defined source (like say an independant binary) but only from devices/platform/w83627hf (in my case of course)
[08:31] <Emanon> It works great for tagging and converting ebooks.
[08:32] <Emanon> I just wish people would stop making new software to do the same thing and just work on one program for each task.
[08:32] <vagy> anyone knows how i can deal with it? maybe making a fake device like the above that will execute a binary behind the scenes? where should i look at?
[08:32] <Emanon> Make one good program instead of 20k crappy ones,
[08:33] <Acme> I lost compiz functionality on 11.10, and my UI gets frozen often, that did not happen before
[08:33] <urlin2u> Acme, you tweak compiz?
[08:33] <spartan7> Zujamulex: the acpi didnt work. it loads grub and then  get a black screen. I can hear the music play though so I know it finished loading :(
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> Acme: there are good tuts for compiz on unity
[08:34] <Emanon> of course, it's compiz
[08:34] <circulardna> does anybody can help me?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> !ask | circulardna
[08:34] <Acme> yeah, it worked before, I upgraded and stop working, I kept using gnome
[08:34] <joeko> Where does the language-support-en package come from?
[08:34] <cipher__> circulardna, I believe you were looking for #english
[08:35] <oleg> Hello
[08:35] <cipher__> They're very helpful.
[08:35] <connor_> Does Ubuntu ship with any sort of software firewall?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | connor_
[08:36] <circulardna> my computer show this on the screen:''error:unknown filesystem grub rescue>"
[08:36] <Zujamulex> spartan7: oh
[08:36] <circulardna> how to solve that problem?
[08:37] <urlin2u> Acme, I have a compiz setup that s highly tweaked cube, and other cool stuff been using the same script of it since maverick with no problems.
[08:37] <joeko> in 11.10 the language-support-en package has a local origin in other versions of ubuntu the meta-package is in a reposiroty
[08:37] <urlin2u> Acme, I never upgrade though.
[08:37] <Acme> in what version are you in?
[08:37] <Emanon> Truecrypt should be mirrored on the official repos btw.
[08:37] <joeko> how is language-support-en generated
[08:37] <urlin2u> Acme, 11.10
[08:37] <Emanon> It's not but it should be.
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> !info language-support-en
[08:38] <Acme> oks well my best hope is I upgrade again to next version and it works again
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !nfo truecrypt
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !info truecrypt
[08:40] <sx_usr__> hi there
[08:40] <Myrtti> truecrypt isn't included in Ubuntu due to license restrictions, if you want it, it's fairly easy to install from the package on their site
[08:40] <sx_usr__> can someone help me with setting the NVidia to display 1920x1080 on my HP EliteBook?
[08:40] <Emanon> Oh is that why Myrtti thanks for the info.
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> !info easycrypt
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> !info cryptkeeper
[08:42] <Emanon> I hate licensing.
[08:42] <Emanon> It messes up all the good stuff.
[08:42] <urlin2u> Acme, I wouldn't upgrade myself, but I have all my stuff on a external, the computer just has 4 OS on it.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> Emanon: whats the point of keep whining of ubuntu's evolution...
[08:43] <urlin2u> lotuspsychje, we have to wait for the meds to kick in. :D
[08:43] <Emanon> Maybe they'll get tired of whinging and fix something.
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> urlin2u :p
[08:44] <sx_usr__> anyone?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> Emanon: your perception of fixing is not based on the reality
[08:44] <Emanon> sx_usr__:  You have the prop drivers (or noveau) installed?
[08:45] <sx_usr__> yeah
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, i have
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, but from the drop down list for Resolution, it's up to 1600x900
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, before 11.10, i can get up to 1920x1080
[08:45] <sx_usr__> Emanon, now im using 11.10 and i only get max resolution of 1600x900
[08:45] <Emanon> That IS odd. Have you checked the NVidia settings rather than the ubuntu display settings?
[08:46] <vagy> anyone really familiar with fancontrol?
[08:46] <sx_usr__> Emanon, yes, that's where i set it
[08:46] <sx_usr__> Emanon, where is ubuntu display settings?
[08:46] <sx_usr__> Emanon, i never use ubuntu display settings and i didn't know there is one....
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> vagy: anything to tweak in BIOS?
[08:46] <Akinari> hai.. need a little help..
[08:47] <Emanon> hit the meta (windows) key and search for "Display" or "Monitors"
[08:47] <Jokn> Anybody have issues with desktop sharing in 11.10? I can connect and see the desktop, but when I click on something it doesn't render on the remote session.  I've tried realvnc and tightvnc clients, both have the same issue.  I can see that the other PC is taking the input, the windows are popping up on the machine that I'm connected to, just not rendering in the client on the remote PC.
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Akinari
[08:47] <vagy> lotuspsychje: no , other than cool'n'quiet (but its irrelevant)
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> vagy: never used fancontrol sorry
[08:47] <vagy> lotuspsychje: ok man, thanx anyways
[08:47] <sx_usr__> Emanon, oic, i can see that, but the optiosn in there is still up to 1600x900
[08:47] <sx_usr__> Emanon, how can i "force" to use 1920x1080?
[08:48] <Emanon> No idea was just checking the usual places.
[08:48] <vagy> lotuspsychje: too much presupposition of you being a man, excuse!
[08:48] <sx_usr__> Emanon, okay, thanks for the help.
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> vagy: what you wanna achieve?
[08:48] <Emanon> Seeing if one allowed what you wanted.
[08:48] <circulardna> ''error:unknown filesystem grub rescue>"   how to desolve that???
[08:48] <Emanon> Good luck, maybe someone else will know.
[08:48] <sx_usr__> Emanon, yeah, hopefully
[08:49] <urlin2u> circulardna, this sudden or a ne install?
[08:49] <urlin2u> new*
[08:50] <vagy> lotuspsychje: fancontrol can read temp values from monitoring chips and adjust the fan speed of , say the cpu cooler...thing is that it doesn't support nvidia's internal monitoring chip...but i get hold of the temp value by running an nvidia binary... so i wonna feed this value to fancontrol
[08:50] <circulardna> after i install an WinXP SP3.gho...
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !info fancontrol
[08:50] <urlin2u> circulardna, this a wubi?
[08:50] <circulardna> that sudden turn into that...
[08:50] <circulardna> nonono...
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> vagy: any scripts for fancontrol exist?
[08:50] <vagy> lotuspsychje: yeap, actually its lm-sensors that doesn't support nvidia's chip
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[08:51] <vagy> lotuspsychje: they do but for other purposes...searched alot about what i need but couldn't find a hint
[08:52] <circulardna> urlin2u,have u met this before?
[08:52] <urlin2u> circulardna,  can't really understand your situation to be honest.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> vagy: goto software centre: lm-sensors, there are few addons did you try them?
[08:53] <vagy> lotuspsychje: checking..
[08:54] <urlin2u> circulardna, full sentences and details would be helpful.
[08:55] <syddraf> Does anyone know why wget and curl would return junk data instead of the source of the website? I'm trying to get the html given by a php script on a website.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !info psensor | vagy
[08:55] <circulardna> umm,i want to install a windows xp system,so i run the WinPE and install with the Ghost,it seems succeed,but when i reboot my computer,the screen show this:''error:unknown filesystem grub rescue>"
[08:56] <circulardna> @urlin2u
[08:56] <arex\> syddraf: you can try and use file_get_contents instead
[08:56] <Chipzzz> syddraf: you're probably seeing graphics
[08:56] <syddraf> arex\: Is that a program or an options for curl/wget?
[08:56] <arex\> syddraf: php function
[08:57] <syddraf> arex\: The php file on the server isn't mine. I don't have access to it.
[08:57] <arex\> syddraf: oh, ok
[08:57] <urlin2u> circulardna, ah you probably need to reload grub to the mbr.
[08:57] <urlin2u> !grub | circulardna
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> vagy: Psensor can monitor the temperature of the NVidia GPUs (using XNVCtrl).
[08:59] <vagy> lotuspsychje: unfortunately psensor is for viewing the temps ... it is using the nvidia binary underneath to grab the GPU temp...thats what i wonna do but then hand this value over to fancontrol (so fancontrol is the s/w i wonna tweak here) ... but it seems that fancontrol cant be configured to accept the temp value from any other source than monitoring chips (the definition of them in fancontrol's config file is a bit weird , they read like
[08:59] <vagy> /devices/platform/chip_name_here/ which afaik isnt a canonical linux thing...or is it? )
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> vagy: not sure about that
[09:00] <xreal> is there a channel for mint?
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> !mint
[09:01] <xreal> ubottu: Thanks!
[09:01] <vagy> lotuspsychje: let me paste the complete line from fancontrol conf file, the one that defines the device from which it reads temp values:  "DEVPATH=hwmon0=devices/platform/w83627hf.656 hwmon1=devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:18.3 "
[09:02] <vagy> lotuspsychje: so i though to configure a fake device like the ones fancontrol uses and have the device execute my binary (the one that grabs the temp value)
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> vagy: maybe the conf file needs another line, but beats me how
[09:02] <vagy> lotuspsychje: but i haven't seen /devices/platforms etc be4
[09:04] <vagy> lotuspsychje: if only i could say "DEVPATH=my_binary" that would be perfect
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> vagy: we need lm-sensor freaks here lol
[09:04] <Chipzzz> vagy: you'd still be left with the problem of scaling the data so that your fan control would understand it
[09:05] <vagy> lotuspsychje: :-)
[09:06] <vagy> Chipzzz: the temp value nvidia's binary returns is already scaled, meaning its a real value that corresponds to the real actual temp, so i guess thats already solved
[09:06] <Chipzzz> :)
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info xsensors | vagy
[09:07] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, sorry for the delay. Ran the script and got the RESULTS.txt
[09:08] <vagy> lotuspsychje: xsensors is liek psensors, reads the value, displays it and so on...but no compatibility with fancontrol :|
[09:08] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, can you pastebin it?
[09:08] <vagy> lotuspsychje: i think i need first of all to realize that these devices are, the ones fancontrol specifies in its config file
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> vagy: maybe something to find in their conf file, you can use?
[09:08] <vagy> that = what
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> vagy: did you man lm-sensors?
[09:09] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, sorry, I'm new to Ubuntu. What do you mean by pastebin it?
[09:09] <urlin2u> !pastebin > michaelpfeiffer1
[09:10] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, copy and paste all the text then post the url
[09:10] <vagy> lotuspsychje: yea, and concluded that it doesn't natively supports nvidia's mon chip (at least in my 6600GT card)
[09:11] <DarthCaeduces> hola, am actually with a necessite for assistance configuring a webpage server. Can a person help?
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | DarthCaeduces
[09:12] <michaelpfeiffer1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812830/
[09:12] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: maybe we can... please be more specific about the problem
[09:13] <DarthCaeduces> am actually attempting to configure the home machine for the webpage server
[09:13] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, http://paste.ubuntu.com/812830/
[09:13] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: have you installed anything yet?
[09:13] <DarthCaeduces> like what?
[09:13] <vagy> lotuspsychje: i will search further for what the devices of fancontrol are, thanx alot for your time!
[09:14] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, script looks like XP should boot you have a XP disc?
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> vagy: my pleasure, hope u find fix
[09:16] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" pretty much does everyting for you
[09:16] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, yes i do, however, I got this old computer from a friend about a week ago and decided to put ubuntu on there as I heard it was an excellent operating system. The hard drive was still in there and it happened to have XP as the OS.
[09:17] <DarthCaeduces> Chipzzz: you have a website refrence?
[09:17] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, I have a boot disk for XP Home Edition but this was XP Professional
[09:17] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz:  i tried sudo tasksel install lamp-server and it didn't show any output
[09:17] <Chipzzz> DarthCaeduces: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[09:18] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, if it was me I would boot the disc get to the repair and run /fixmbr to reload the MS bootloader in the mbr and see if it boots that disc will work for this.
[09:18] <Zujamulex> hey
[09:18] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: you can run tasksel from the command line: "sudo tasksel"... you can install a lamp server from a menu that way
[09:19] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, so just run the disk. Should there be a repair option or will it restore something?
[09:20] <Zujamulex> im looking for drivers for, hp evo dx2200, the intel chipset, ati radeon xpress 200, anyone can point me a place please???
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> !ati
[09:20] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, i will need to know which options to run so I can restore XP
[09:20] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, http://www.ehow.com/how_4891476_reinstall-xp-bootloader.html
[09:20] <Zujamulex> nono, that does NOT work
[09:20] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: Ok, thanks, that menu doesnt show a lamp server option, but it does show, other options like.. web server, print server, DNS server, ect..
[09:21] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, that should help, :D
[09:22] <Zujamulex> lotuspsychje: nono, that does NOT work
[09:22] <Zujamulex> so¡
[09:22] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: maybe they've changed it since I last used it, sorry... lamp used to be an option & tasksel set everything up for you
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Zujamulex: did you install additional drives?
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> !tasksel
[09:23] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, you can also run a chkdsk /r from that same terminal if needed, it will need a reboot to run it
[09:24] <opalepatrick> In the middle of a project at the moment, so is it fairly safe to install the new linux headers, or wait?
[09:24] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: I just ran tasksel & mine showed a LAMP server... what version Ubuntu are you running?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> opalepatrick: what kind of project?
[09:25] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, when you mention terminal and chkdsk /r commands, I assume you are talking about using Ubuntu's Terminal?
[09:25] <urlin2u> opalepatrick, I think the latest in 11.10 is more more the same kernel, some have addressed having problems, worked fine here.
[09:25] <opalepatrick> Oh, a work project, lotuspsychje
[09:26] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, no the repair terminal on the XP disc
[09:26] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, you v=can't run a chkdsk from linux
[09:27] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, I will try to find the XP disk first and then I will follow the instructions provided above to reinstall boot loader and will report back if problem persists
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> michaelpfeiffer: you could also install ubuntu instead of using windows :p
[09:27] <urlin2u> michaelpfeiffer1, I am going to crash.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> nite urlin2u
[09:28] <michaelpfeiffer1> ?
[09:28] <urlin2u> lotuspsychje, they have ubuntu XP just wont boot.
[09:28] <opalepatrick> thanks urlin2u
[09:28] <urlin2u> opalepatrick, sure
[09:28] <urlin2u> night all
[09:28] <michaelpfeiffer1> urlin2u, Is it late where you live? Sorry, I am here in Australia and have plenty of time
[09:28] <opalepatrick> morning
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> michaelpfeiffer1: i mean you could install ubuntu and never use xp anymore too
[09:29] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: good advice ;)
[09:29] <michaelpfeiffer1> lotuspsychje, i have ubuntu installed and am using it right now
[09:30] <Pseudoephedrine> hwo do i change permission of a file to 755?
[09:30] <theadmin> Pseudoephedrine: err. chmod 755 filename
[09:30] <michaelpfeiffer1> i got this desktop from a friend and they had the whole Microsoft Office suite on there (way too expensive for me to buy)
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: tnx mate, so many ppl got corrupt systems on windows
[09:31] <abe> hy
[09:31] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: i haven't run window$ in years & don't miss it a bit :)
[09:31] <abe> hello
[09:31] <abe> hi
[09:31] <theadmin> michaelpfeiffer1: It's highly unlikely it was bought then, maybe pirated ;) Anyway, LibreOffice works great, even better than M$O most of the time
[09:31] <michaelpfeiffer1> It is important for me to recover windows XP so i am able to use Office just incase LibreOffice isn't
[09:32] <michaelpfeiffer1> isn't what I need for certain tasks
[09:32] <cipher__> michaelpfeiffer1, then use google docs
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: same here, also i install ubuntu for older familly members, they never been able to crash their machine
[09:32] <cipher__> or openoffice
[09:32] <cipher__> or use wine
[09:32] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: lol
[09:32] <theadmin> cipher__: Openoffice and Libreoffice are the same thing -_-
[09:32] <cipher__> bah
[09:32] <theadmin> cipher__: Except LibO has more features and works faster
[09:32] <cipher__> ^
[09:33] <michaelpfeiffer1> You all have some good points there, however MS office wasn't a pirated copy and would be a shame to not use for free
[09:34] <endafy> how do I keep the Unity bar from autohiding it is getting under my skin
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> endafy: you have ccsm installed?
[09:34] <abe> where i can get the iso blackbuntu?
[09:34] <gusband>  
[09:34] <endafy> no and it doesnt show up in software center
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> endafy: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[09:35] <abe> help me,,, where i can get the iso blackbuntu?
[09:35] <endafy> lol duh I keep forgetting about terminal thanks
[09:35] <theadmin> abe: That's unsupported here.
[09:35] <abe> okay
[09:35] <abe> thanks
[09:35] <abe> ^_^
[09:35] <endafy> E: Unable to locate package ccsm
[09:36] <michaelpfeiffer1> lotuspsychje, I also have other executables and programs that I would like to run on Windows XP that I can't run on Linux
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> !info ccsm
[09:36] <theadmin> abe: This channel only supports the official Ubuntu derivs, which are: Ubuntu, Ubuntu Netbook Edition, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and Kubuntu. Also Ubuntu Studio iirc.
[09:36] <cipher__> michaelpfeiffer1, I didn't realize microsoft products were actually purchased.
[09:36] <theadmin> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | lotuspsychje, endafy
[09:36] <michaelpfeiffer1> attempting to fix MS Windows XP
[09:36] <michaelpfeiffer1> brb
[09:37] <endafy> compizconfig-settings-manager showed up in software center but ccsm didnt thanks
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[09:37] <Pseudoephedrine> How do i uninstall phpmyadmin and so i can reinstall it again?
[09:38] <theadmin> Pseudoephedrine: sudo apt-get --purge remove phpmyadmin # Or something like that.
[09:38] <pp7> wtf, my cursor is not responding
[09:39] <Chipzzz> theadmin: that's it exactly
[09:39] <pp7> via trackpad
[09:39] <theadmin> Chipzzz: What is?
[09:39] <endafy> awesome thanks for your help that fixed it completely!
[09:39] <pp7> buttons work but cant move cursor
[09:39] <Chipzzz> "sudo apt-get --purge remove phpmyadmin"
[09:39] <endafy> also how do I install gnome 3 themes in 11.10?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer obn an older laptop?
[09:40] <cipher__> pock it
[09:40] <cipher__> poke*
[09:40] <almoxarife> sudo apt-get purge xxxxxxxx
[09:41] <abe> help me,,, how to connect the two access points with a distance of 10 meters ???
[09:41] <abe> help me,,, how to connect the two access points with a distance of 10 meters ???
[09:41] <Chipzzz> I modified Alex Eftimie's system monitor applet to show network stats this weekend. Does anyone want to try it out?
[09:42] <UberDuper> I'm setting up an environment to network installed of ubuntu 10.04 on kvm guests. I'm using preseeding both passed as extra-args in virt-install and a preseed config file that the installer downloads.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: sounds interesting but im on lowband mobile connection atm
[09:43] <UberDuper> I've got it completely unattended now.. but one thing I can't get working is setting multiple nameservers.
[09:44] <UberDuper> Using netcfg/get_nameservers=8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 I just end up with 8.8.8.8 configured.
[09:44] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: i'm going to send it off to him during the week & it will probably wind up in his next release... I just thought someone might like a preview & I could use the feedback :)
[09:44] <Pseudoephedrine> Ok, so ive tried to re-install phpmyadmin and supposedly it work, but i try to visit the webpage http://my-ip-here/phpmyadmin and it is unable to resolve. Any Ideas?
[09:44] <UberDuper> Using netcfg/get_nameservers="8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" breaks the installer.  Using '8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4' doesn't break the installer but I get no nameservers configured.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: whats the package name again?
[09:45] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: you probably have to specify the port (i think it defaults to 10000)
[09:46] <Dixie_> hellooooooooooo out there
[09:46] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: indicator-sysmonitor - it shows cpu%, mem%, cpu temp, stuff like that in Unity's top bar
[09:46] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: how do i go about specifying a port.. I followed all the steps on http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-debian-lenny-lamp
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-sysmonitor
[09:47] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: http://my-ip-here:10000
[09:47] <abe> ada orang indonesia gak disini ??
[09:48] <Myrtti> !id | abe
[09:48] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: it's in his ppa & on launchpad: http://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor
[09:48] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: so if i am trying to access phpmyadmin would i do http://my-ip-here:10000/phpmyadmin
[09:48] <Pseudoephedrine> ?
[09:48] <abe> oke
[09:48] <abe> hahaha
[09:48] <abe> assalamu alaikum
[09:48] <tPl0ch> Hi, I am trying to get ubuntu to run on my toshiba laptop and I am stuck. I was able to get the installation going and successfully finishing with custom boot options (acpi=copy_dsdt, xforcevesa, nomodeset, vga=0). But when starting after the installation (with the same custom boot options), I am only getting to 'checking battery state' and then it hangs. And when sending the SIGTERM signal, it tells me 'acpi exiti
[09:48] <tPl0ch> ng' and shuts down. Is anybody here who could give me a clue on what to try?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: tnx i like indicator stuff
[09:49] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: are you using a normal installation disk or the alternate?
[09:49] <mang0> How can I change the keyboard layout with xfce? I can't see the option anywhere :/
[09:49] <theadmin> mang0: Try axkb. XFCE has no default setting.
[09:50] <theadmin> !info axkb | mang0
[09:50] <theadmin> Bah
[09:50] <mang0> lol.
[09:50] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, I used the 64bit 11.10 installation cd
[09:50] <bal_> how to enable i bus
[09:50] <theadmin> !info fbxkb
[09:50] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: alternate or desktop?
[09:50] <theadmin> ...
[09:50] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: just "http://my-ip-here:10000" should do it
[09:50] <bal_> in ubuntu 11.10
[09:50] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, Desktop
[09:51] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: or "http://localhost:10000"
[09:51] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: if you don't mind trying again you can always try the alternative disc http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[09:51] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, that means installing again, meh...
[09:51] <bal_> Chipzzz: hi  how to enable inidian languge in ubuntu  11.10
[09:52] <share> http://www.penguspy.com/wolfenstein-enemy-territory/
[09:52] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, you think the desktop installation was flawed?
[09:52] <Myrtti> tPl0ch: oh, I didn't see you managed to finish the installation already
[09:52] <bal_> i need phonatical keymethod
[09:52]  * Myrtti gets another pot of tea going
[09:52] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, well, yeah, I did google for fixes in custom boot parameters, and it worked, but not for the finished installation
[09:53] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, I can't even post a dmesg
[09:53] <tPl0ch> Myrtti, when firing up, the system log initialization fails
[09:54] <bal_> how to enable ibus ?
[09:55] <bal_> how to enabe sicm in ubuntu ?
[09:56] <Chipzzz> bal_: I think there's an Indian ubuntu channel on irc. I don't know much about it, though, sorry
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> !in | bal_
[09:57] <bal_> i tryed there but not one available there
[09:57] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: thanks
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:57] <Chipzzz> Tea time for me too :)
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> have a cookie too
[09:58] <Chipzzz> crumpets, perhaps ;)
[09:58] <circulardna> sb. here?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-cookies
[09:58] <bal_> lotuspsychje: thre is no one to answer
[10:00] <Pseudoephedrine> Where do i find phpmyadmin folder? I have no idea where it is saved
[10:02] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: Probably in /var but maybe in /usr/share
[10:02] <Dreaman> why ubuntu 11.10 with kernel 3.2 is fast away by the stable
[10:02] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: Were you able to get the phpmyadmin login page to load in your browser?
[10:02] <Dreaman> kernel
[10:03] <SUL> CIAO
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !it | SUL
[10:03] <SUL> GET!LIST
[10:04] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Yep sure was, but now i am not sure what username i am supposed to login with.
[10:04] <SUL> LIST
[10:04] <Myrtti> !list > SUL
[10:05] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: I think it defaults to your user credentials
[10:05] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Im did set a password during installation, but was never prompted for a username. I have been reading about a file called config.default.php which is where i should be able to set or view it
[10:05] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: I have tried the default, but unfortunately it did not work
[10:06] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: That's good.  You're there then!  You might need to configure access for a user from the command line first.
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> anyone tested a 6G ssd drive on 11.10 yet?
[10:06] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Ok i will try that now
[10:08] <Pseudoephedrine> rob_p: Ok got that solved.. Logged in now.. Would you mind if i poked you in PM to figure some stuff out? If your not to busy
[10:08] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: Yeah, as I recall I had to configure a user first but once I did that, I could log in to the Web interface with that username/password.
[10:08] <rob_p> Pseudoephedrine: sure
[10:10] <qwelegen> Hello I am using a modem that runs on WVdial, and my gwibber depends on network-manager, how do I connect my gwibber
[10:10] <Chipzzz> Pseudoephedrine: I just realized I've been thinking of webmin all this time... sorry
[10:12] <Pseudoephedrine> Chipzzz: Lol, no problem mate, got it sorted ;)
[10:12] <Chipzzz> :)
[10:13] <qwelegen> Anyone know how to configure wvdial connection to appear on network-manager on 11.10
[10:15] <theadmin> qwelegen: NetworkManager doesn't deal with modems, so you just can't, because, well, there's just no tab for it %)
[10:18] <a-saint> hello guys is there any ubuntu based linux for kids
[10:18] <theadmin> a-saint: "for kids"? Edubuntu maybe, not sure.
[10:18] <AlanBell> a-saint: there is one called qimo
[10:19] <a-saint> theadmin AlanBell thanks guys
[10:20] <a-saint> AlanBell thanks guys is ubuntu based?
[10:20] <Machtin> Why were there so many updates yesterday?
[10:20] <a-saint> AlanBell qimo is ubuntu based?
[10:20] <AlanBell> a-saint: yes (that was your question)
[10:20] <west> salut tout le monde
[10:20] <west> ya des francais ici .???
[10:20] <AlanBell> !fr
[10:20] <west> thk
[10:21] <a-saint> AlanBell yes exactly thanks
[10:24] <qwelegen> is there a patch for gwibber to use wvdial?
[10:24] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[10:24] <Umeaboy> I've been looking for help about a USB-adapter issue in 10.10.
[10:25] <Umeaboy> I can't get dmesg to show that it's recognized.
[10:25] <Umeaboy> I don't want to upgrade to 11.04 since Unity is implemented there.
[10:25] <Umeaboy> Who can help me?
[10:25] <Umeaboy> This is in a laptop.
[10:25] <AlanBell> qwelegen: no, and that doesn't make a heap of sense, gwibber just uses whatever networking you have available
[10:26] <jutnux> Some info about the adapter please Umeaboy
[10:26] <Umeaboy> It's made by Sandisk.
[10:26] <dns53-laptop> Umeaboy you could try a different kernel, there are packages built by the kernel team
[10:26] <Umeaboy> linus-kernel?
[10:26] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: what is it? a disk or something?
[10:27] <qwelegen> AlanBett: Gwibber displays posts but I can't post anything, can't reply or create new post. it seems the text function is disabled
[10:27] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: does lsusb show it?
[10:27] <Umeaboy> It helps you mount a SD-card in your computer using that slot.
[10:27] <Umeaboy> Nope.
[10:27] <Umeaboy> dmesg won't see it either.
[10:27] <qwelegen> AlanBell: Gwibber displays posts but I can't post anything, can't reply or create new post. it seems the text function is disabled
[10:27] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: so it is an SD card adapter, that shouldn't need any special drivers
[10:28] <Umeaboy> Right.
[10:28] <Umeaboy> I know it works fine in older kernels in other distros because I have tried it.
[10:28] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: you have plugged it in and put a card in and nothing happens?
[10:28] <Umeaboy> Yes.
[10:29] <AlanBell> qwelegen: ah, right, gwibber is asking networkmanager about the network status and networkmanager says it is down
[10:29] <AlanBell> this used to happen with mobile broadband stuff
[10:30] <qwelegen> AlanBell: Is there a Fix
[10:30] <dns53-laptop> Umeaboy you could potentially try a newer kernel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[10:30] <AlanBell> qwelegen: dunno, in firefox you can take it out of offline mode manually, not sure about gwibber
[10:31] <AlanBell> Umeaboy: is there something wierd about the SD card adapter, they normally just work
[10:31] <share> !games
[10:31] <qwelegen> AlanBell:Don't see that option, it is there in empathy but can't locate this option on gwibber
[10:32] <paperke67> wget
[10:32] <paperke67> quit
[10:32] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: maybe the card is unformatted or corrupted... try seeing if fdisk, disk manager, or gparted sees it
[10:33] <dns53-laptop>   add  a /      /quit
[10:33] <Umeaboy> Chipzzz: Well, it worked a while ago in my Tab.
[10:33] <paperke67> Yes, I know. Typo.
[10:37] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: did you unplug it without "safely removing" or unmounting it?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt mouse pointer on an older laptop?
[10:38] <bkerensa> AlanBell: A fix is underway for 884671 right?
[10:39] <Umeaboy> No. I shutdown my Tab.
[10:39] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: which tab?
[10:40] <Umeaboy> Samsung Galaxy Tab P1000.
[10:40] <Umeaboy> Why?
[10:40] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: Ah... I thought you meant a tab in nautilus or something...
[10:40] <titi> hello
[10:40] <Umeaboy> Nope.
[10:41] <Umeaboy> I wrote Tab. Not tab.
[10:41] <Umeaboy> See the difference? ;)
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> oO
[10:41] <Umeaboy> Tab for me explains the short word for Tablet.
[10:41] <Umeaboy> tab means something related to windows.
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> what has galaxy tab to do with ubuntu?
[10:42] <Umeaboy> He asked.
[10:42] <Umeaboy> ;)
[10:42] <Umeaboy> He missunderstood what I meant.
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> if you meant Tab, it has no point discussing it here
[10:42] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: lol... my bad... did you look in disk manager or something to see if it is recognized there?
[10:42] <Umeaboy> No problemo anyhow. ;)
[10:43] <Umeaboy> I've checked in fdisk, df -T, gparted.
[10:43] <Umeaboy> Nothing.
[10:43] <Chipzzz> Does it show up in lsusb?
[10:43] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: Yes, I moved the SD-card from my Tablet.
[10:44] <Umeaboy> Chipzzz: Nope. Just the card-reader itself.
[10:44] <Umeaboy> I wonder why Realtek makes SD-card readers as well.
[10:44] <Umeaboy> I'm so used to them making Ethernet-cards.
[10:44] <varegi> buon giorno!
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> !it | varegi
[10:45] <Umeaboy> Si
[10:45] <Umeaboy> ;)
[10:45] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: sounds like the card is fried or at least simmered
[10:45] <varegi> Grazie
[10:45] <Umeaboy> I don't think so since it works in my Tablet.
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: can't u link up the tablet to ubuntu pc to browse?
[10:46] <ryannathans> can someone with wifi test a bug for me please?
[10:46] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje
[10:46] <Umeaboy> Maybe. ;)
[10:46] <Chipzzz> Umeaboy: Ah... perhaps the Tablet writes an incompatible format on it?
[10:47] <Umeaboy> ryannathans: What card?
[10:47] <ryannathans> Umeaboy: no particular card
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> i linked ipad2 to ubuntu with some lib...cant remember
[10:47] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: libncurses5?
[10:47] <ryannathans> Umeaboy: happens with my ath9k and rt2800usb
[10:48] <Umeaboy> WHAT happens?
[10:48] <ryannathans> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: don't think thats the one, you also needed it for sync with banshee
[10:48] <Umeaboy> OK
[10:49] <farrukhjon> hi all!
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans: is that a linksys card?
[10:49] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: no
[10:50] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: ALFA networks and an aetheros
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans: whats the wireless security? wep or wpa?
[10:50] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: wpa
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans:did you try WEP to test?
[10:51] <ryannathans> lotuspsychje: i will now, bbl
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> ryannathans: i had a bug with wpa on 10.10, it only worked on WEP
[10:56] <farrukhjon> folk i interesting key binding Maximize Horizontal and Vertical i find it and set some key combination but why its does not work when i need re-operation (minimize H and V ) by same key binding in Unity but its fork in Gnome Shell ? Thanks
[10:57] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: You can see here that the SD-card mounts fine in my Tablet: http://pastebin.com/nUD0embX
[10:57] <Umeaboy> So there must be an issue somewhere in Ubuntu.
[10:58] <Umeaboy> Which version of udev does Ubuntu use?
[10:58] <Umeaboy> Perhaps it's an issue in udev.
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: your sd slot in the ubuntu pc, you got the driver properly installed?
[10:58] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure, but I think so yes.
[10:59] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: if i understand the question, i think you'll find that the key bindings are different between Unity & Gnome. They can be changed in both shells, though
[10:59] <farrukhjon> and how set Auto-hide for Window Menu (up of bar) in Unity
[10:59] <Umeaboy> Otherwise I wouldn't see the card reader in lsusb, right?
[10:59] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: do you have ccsm?
[11:00] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: yes
[11:00] <Fudge> hi when uploading packages to launchpad, i want to use a .install file to place a foile in usr/local/bin but suspect it does not exist in the chroot. is there a man page for .install files?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: in what partition is your sd card? fat32?
[11:00] <Umeaboy> Here's my output for lsusb: http://pastebin.com/2r1K8d3Z
[11:00] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: if it can be hidden, you should find the setting in there. I don't know if it is possible, though
[11:01] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: Look at the first link.
[11:01] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: ... will look around...
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: i cant open up links atm only txt chat
[11:01] <Umeaboy> OK.
[11:01] <slaptman> what is another way of zooming in on the desktop other than compiz
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: you have gparted?
[11:02] <Umeaboy> Filesystem SHOULD be FAT.
[11:02] <Umeaboy> Yes.
[11:02] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz:  i think so ... looking around
[11:02] <farrukhjon> -))
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: maybe try another format like ntfs to test out if ubuntu mounts it?
[11:03] <cdb4> hey guys minor problem here: ubuntu boots up fine and everything but whenever i boot up theres no ubuntu logo, its just a blank purple screen. the logo only shows up for a scond after everything has loaded and then im taken to the login screen. any idea how to fix this so i can see the logo/dots when i boot up?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: your pc boots fast so it never hits the logo :p
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: you have ssd perhaps?
[11:05] <farrukhjon> how is as called Top Panel in my Desktop in Unity, i need search by google
[11:05] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: hmm that could be the case. i recently reinstalled ubuntu but on my previous installation the logo+dots would show up fine so im not sure :/
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> cdb4:wich harddisk you have?
[11:06] <farrukhjon> where located power indicator, Network-manager and so on...
[11:07] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: OK, but other distros detect it fine.
[11:07] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: im not sure... kind of a noob sorry
[11:08] <Umeaboy> cdb4: Open palimpsest.
[11:08] <Umeaboy> You'll see hardware-info there.
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: if your harddisk and computer are fast, you will never see the logo
[11:08] <Umeaboy> Otherwise install lshw if possible.
[11:09] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:09] <cristian_c> I installed Lazarus, but when I open it or open a project. lpi I got errors
[11:09] <cristian_c> the problem is due to not installing some components
[11:09] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: PATA, ata toshiba mk2035gss
[11:09] <Umeaboy> Install them then.
[11:09] <cristian_c> I downloaded bgrabitmap and I ran the steps to install the .lpk file in the package
[11:10] <cristian_c> I've compiled through its lazarus window reached by one of its menu, but after it completed the installation of the component it has failed and an error box appeared
[11:10] <Umeaboy> And what does it say?
[11:11] <cristian_c> The popup window says: 'The package bgrabitmappack does not have any "Register" procedure, which typically means, it does not provide any IDE addon. Installing it will probably only increase the size of the IDE and may even make it unstable. Hint: if you want to use a package in your project, use the "Add to project" menu item'
[11:11] <cristian_c> with two buttons: Cancel and 'Install it, I like the fat'
[11:12] <farrukhjon> guys!, help me, how customize top panel of Unity for its auto-hiding, so annoying it...
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> cdb4: i would not worry about logo booting
[11:12] <Umeaboy> Install then.
[11:12] <cristian_c> I have clicked on 'Install it, I like the fat' and another popup window appeared: 'The package "bgrabitmappack 5.5" has been marked for installation. Currently supports only lazarus packages with static links. The installation has real need to do a rebuild and a reboot of Lazarus. Want to quickly rebuild Lazarus?'
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> farrukhjon: install compiz-config-manager
[11:12] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: as of a month ago, there was no way to hide the top panel in Unity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89898/unity-request-please-add-a-way-to-hide-unity-top-panel
[11:13] <cristian_c> I clicked Yes, and I think it did not seem to have happened at all. But then all the lazarus windows have gone to freeze not showing more their content. Finally, the program is closed, but then reopened. But reopening continued to require automatic lazarus components despite I had just installed one
[11:13] <bluenemo> hi guys, do you know how i can join #ubuntu-live on freenode? i've been working with debian-live a lot and love it, now i want to check some ubuntu stuff out. it says its invite only, but i have my nick registered on freenode (or what was that again?):  Cannot join #ubuntu-live (Channel is invite only).
[11:13] <farrukhjon> lotuspsychje: i have installed already, bu i don't known how do
[11:13] <cdb4> lotuspsychje: alright cool. just thought i had done something to make it go away but i guess thats not the case. thanks for the help!
[11:13] <cristian_c> How do I understand something more? Did something go wrong in the installation of the component?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> farrukhjon: like Chipzzz sais it cant be hide, only panel transparancy..you can autohide left panel if u like...
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> bluenemo: join #freenode and ask there
[11:15] <bluenemo> ah ok thx
[11:15] <farrukhjon> lotuspsychje: this self-deception so? :)
[11:15] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: if it's really that much of a problem for you, you can install the gnome3 desktop & hide any panel you like
[11:17] <Umeaboy> cristian_c: I'm not sure.
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:18] <Chipzzz> actually, i like Cairo-deck, which auto-hides & the left launcher can be hidden with ccsm... The top bar is fine with me, as I have indicators & stuff up there that I like to keep visible :)
[11:18] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: i have installed Gnome Shell but there same program zombieing (for example empathy IM working by SIP/VoIP protocol)
[11:19] <cristian_c> Umeaboy, what?
[11:20] <SteM> hi all, after the upgrade to natty, the Firefox 9.0.1 does not store the bookmark !
[11:20] <farrukhjon> any case thanks for discussing for all...
[11:21] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: good luck, i hope you get it sorted out
[11:22] <Chipzzz> SteM: have you tried reinstalling Firefox?
[11:22] <Umeaboy> Gotta go.
[11:22] <SteM> Chipzzz: how can i do it?
[11:22] <Chipzzz> SteM: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install Firefox"
[11:23] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: at least I do not have to dig into google :)
[11:23] <Chipzzz> :)
[11:23] <SteM> thank a lot guys, i'll test it
[11:24] <Chipzzz> :)
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: cairodock looks nice, but i hope they make left bar changeable to bottom one day..
[11:25] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: Ciaro is much nicer looking & more configurable... I'd rather have that on the bottom & autohide both it and the standard left side launcher
[11:26] <farrukhjon> and one question: it it possible call Dash panel (luncher ) only by key+binding not using mouse moving to left ?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: ill test it out, ive had bottom bar for years in gnome :p
[11:27] <Chipzzz> farrukhjon: yes but i don't remember the keys (they're configurable with ccsm, though)
[11:28] <farrukhjon> Chipzzz: i configured key but how disable mouse calling
[11:28] <ryannathans> the hole deepens inb4 sexual joke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[11:28] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: Cairo has a gnome-like mode in which it separates the launchers & provides an icon for each instance of the launched program
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> Chipzzz: sounds cool
[11:29] <Chipzzz> lotuspsychje: it's really slick... i'm pretty sure if you tried it you'd be hooked too :)
[11:30] <ryannathans> can someone have a look and confirm my bug?
[11:30] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: sure
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> !info cairo-dock
[11:30] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: thanks
[11:31] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: waiting to hear about the bug...
[11:31] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: does that spam in dmesg look normal?
[11:31] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[11:35] <cameron> hi
[11:35] <ryannathans> hi
[11:35] <cameron> i got a new computer yesterday and want to install ubuntu
[11:36] <ryannathans> cool
[11:36] <cameron> but when i load the live usb it boots and lines are shown on the screen
[11:36] <cameron> and then it just goes to black
[11:36] <ryannathans> cameron: does the same usb boot on other systems?
[11:36] <cameron> i think its probably a driver problem but how can i install drivers if i cant access ubuntu?
[11:36] <cameron> yes
[11:36] <cameron> i tried a cd too
[11:36] <ryannathans> cameron: what hardware?
[11:37] <cameron> uh like graphics card or what?
[11:37] <ryannathans> motherboard/graphics card/et
[11:37] <ryannathans> etc
[11:37] <cameron> msi r6790 pm2digd5
[11:37] <ryannathans> cameron: personally, i'd try the alturnate install .iso
[11:37] <cameron> what?
[11:38] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: off the top of my head, i'd guess the wireless card isn't reinitializing correctly and consequently never reconnects
[11:38] <cameron> no, i've tried a different one
[11:38] <cameron> 10.10 i think
[11:38] <cameron> same problem
[11:38] <cameron> im using 12.04
[11:38] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: happens with both my ath9k inturnal wifi and usb rt2800usb alfa networks
[11:38] <cameron> gigabyte z68 x-ud3-b3
[11:39] <cameron> i5 2500k processor
[11:39] <ryannathans> cameron: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate
[11:39] <ryannathans> cameron: try the 11.10 alturnate installer
[11:39] <cameron> but i tried 10.10
[11:39] <cameron> and that doesnt work
[11:40] <ryannathans> the 10.10 alturnate installer?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> cameron: did you remember what those lines say
[11:40] <cameron> no, they're litterally just lines
[11:40] <alkamid> how to move checkgmail icon from the bottom panel (the invisible one) to the top panel (near wireless/volume icons) ? ubuntu 11.10, gnome 3
[11:40] <cameron> like weird blue lines across the screen
[11:40] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: I remember having had problems with an rt2400 series pci card that had to be started from a cold boot in order to initialize properly, but that was a long time ago
[11:40] <fosa_> how can i pipe all of my recent commands that are in the terminal buffer into a file?
[11:41] <cameron> ryannathans: is there a direct download version
[11:41] <ryannathans> cameron: sure, one minute
[11:41] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: the situation does seem vaguely analogous, though
[11:41] <cameron> k
[11:42] <pierangeloxchat> who use toshiba ac100?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> pierangeloxchat:whats your question?
[11:43] <ryannathans> cameron: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download
[11:43] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: what do you suggest?
[11:43] <pierangeloxchat> i have problem with audio
[11:43] <cameron> ryannathans: what??
[11:43] <cameron> i dont understand
[11:43] <cameron> ive tried a 10.10 version
[11:43] <cameron> and it doesnt work
[11:43] <ryannathans> cameron: a 10.10 ALTURNATE installer?
[11:44] <ryannathans> cameron: alturnate installer is for people who have problems installing with the normal
[11:44] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: is it necessary to change mac addresses often, or can you just find one and leave it alone for a few days?
[11:44] <cameron> oh.
[11:44] <cameron> ok
[11:44] <Benkinooby> hi, i use ubuntu 10.04 and it's default open office 3.2.0 Currently i a writing on some important stuff (timepressure included) but there are some bugs in office that slow down my work. Would you advise me to download LibreOffice 3.4.5 and keep on working with libre office? or will it mess up my files or "overwrite" my open office?
[11:44] <pierangeloxchat> those who have tried to install Ubuntu on a Toshiba AC100?
[11:45] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: there is one network i need to access and it has mac filtering
[11:45] <cameron> ryannathans: there is no intel 64 bit here: http://mirror01.th.ifl.net/releases/11.10/
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> Benkinooby backup all your files first, after that its safe to install others
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: there is no such thing as intel64
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: http://mirror01.th.ifl.net/releases/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-alternate-amd64.iso is what you are looking for
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: amd64 just means 64bit, which your processor can do.
[11:46] <cameron> but i have an intel i5 processor?
[11:46] <cameron> ok
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: it's titled amd64 because amd invented it
[11:46] <cameron> oh
[11:46] <cameron> ok thanks
[11:46] <Benkinooby> lotuspsychje, i don't have the chance to backup now... so i'll not take the risk and stay with open office. thank you
[11:46] <ryannathans> cameron: just like 32bit is x86
[11:47] <cameron> yeha, why is 32 bit x86?
[11:47] <cameron> and 64 bit x64?
[11:47] <ryannathans> cameron: x86 is the arch
[11:47] <cameron> oh
[11:47] <cameron> ok
[11:47] <ryannathans> cameron: ARM is the arch for most mobile devices, for example.
[11:48] <cameron> ok
[11:48] <wonderland64bits> btw, when ubuntu will include its OS on mobile devices?
[11:48] <ryannathans> wonderland64bits: now.
[11:48] <theadmin> wonderland64bits: Since 12.10 if I recall right
[11:49] <oCean> fosa_: the  history  command will show your recent commands. Use  history > myhistory.txt  to redirect the output to a file called myhistory.txt
[11:49] <ryannathans> theadmin: orly? I had ubuntu 9 working on my mobile phone, it's ARM
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> theadmin: really? that would be cool
[11:49] <fosa_> oCean, ahhh perfect thank you very much :)
[11:49] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: dunno... i think some software has mac spoofing built in but this isn't the channel to discuss that kind of software ;)
[11:49] <theadmin> ryannathans: (s)he's refering to Ubuntu Liquid.
[11:49] <wonderland64bits> but i mean to make contracts with mobile enterprises
[11:49] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: software like macchanger?
[11:50] <oCean> fosa_: welcom! Remember that, if you want to _add_ more history, then use  history >> myhistory.txt
[11:50] <ryannathans> theadmin: I see
[11:50] <wonderland64bits> cause i am sick of android java programming
[11:50] <wonderland64bits> i want C!
[11:50] <wonderland64bits> lol
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:50] <Jackneill> http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/2028113_460s.jpg
[11:50] <ryannathans> wonderland64bits: you can write C programs for android
[11:50] <ryannathans> wonderland64bits: you just need the right compiler
[11:50] <fosa_> oCean, ah nice tip
[11:51] <pksadiq> oCean: won't that again appends history from beginning? making the file huge and repeated?
[11:51] <wonderland64bits> ubuntu mobile will be C too, right?
[11:51] <CaptAnon> should be windows or gates
[11:52] <CaptAnon> Question is it possible to run graphical programs in any other tty then tty 7
[11:52] <CaptAnon> I assume that is what you call them
[11:53] <is_null> hi all, should a laptop last longer if i set 0.80Ghz or Powersave ?
[11:53] <butti> good morning
[11:53] <ryannathans> is_null: laptop or battery?
[11:53] <oCean> pksadiq: If you do this, you'll end up with redundant entries, well it depends on when you run the commands. Default HISTSIZE is 1000 I think.. but once you're beyond those, you can save again :)
[11:54] <is_null> ryannathans: battery i guess
[11:54] <CaptAnon> is_null,  I would guess powersave
[11:54] <ryannathans> is_null: assuming default cpu clock is over 0.8 ghz, etc.
[11:54] <ryannathans> is_null: yes
[11:54] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: i was thinking more like metasploit or something in that category... i haven't looked into it deeply but i think it can be done independently of the wireless card
[11:55] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: I'm aware of that kind of stuff, I can hack any residentual security wifi network
[11:55] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: and i'm still stuck ;d
[11:55] <is_null> thanks for the hints
[11:55] <CaptAnon> is_null,  you know to lower the screen brightness?
[11:55] <is_null> yes
[11:55] <ryannathans> is_null: that would be hellishly slow
[11:55] <ryannathans> is_null: 0.8ghz
[11:55] <is_null> i just do ssh
[11:55] <Chipzzz> ryannathans: *shrugs* then you're more knowledgable on the subject than i :)
[11:55] <ryannathans> is_null: thats fine then
[11:55] <ryannathans> Chipzzz: hehe ;D
[11:56] <is_null> 0.8 should give more time than powersave ?
[11:56] <ryannathans> is_null: I would assume so
[11:56] <is_null> thanks for the heads up
[11:56] <CaptAnon> Also it might not be worth putting on the lowest frequency because it may take longer to do the job and use more power because of that
[11:56] <ryannathans> is_null: i'd have my brightness down too if I were concerned about battery
[11:56] <CaptAnon> but powersave should use the lowest frequency anyway
[11:56] <ryannathans> that's also possible
[11:57] <ryannathans> either way it's better than using nothing
[11:57] <CaptAnon> What kind of laptop do you have is_null
[11:58] <ryannathans> Can anyone assist with a bug? I need it confirmed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[12:00] <RamtinA> hello what's the best bandwith matter ?i want to watch my total monthly bandwith
[12:00] <CaptAnon> *meter
[12:01] <CaptAnon> RamtinA,  I would like that too.
[12:03] <ryannathans> Can anyone assist with a bug? I need it confirmed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[12:03] <RamtinA> CaptAnon:yes
[12:04] <RamtinA> do you know what's the best bandwith meter ?i want to watch my total monthly bandwith
[12:04] <Gentoo64> RamtinA, if you use a router some can do it on that
[12:05] <CaptAnon> Sorry ryannathans  I can't help with that
[12:05] <ryannathans> naww
[12:05] <ryannathans> anyone here with a wifi card and access point?
[12:08] <tete_> is there a way to reinstall a package ? with reinstall i mean install the default config too? i made some crap in my postfix main.cf but postfix depends on lsb_core so a won't just do a purge as this would remove lsb_core too
[12:09] <tete_> something like: aptitude purge reinstall postfix?
[12:09] <LjL> tete_: no, but can't you just do purge and *then* reinstall?
[12:09] <tete_> LjL, hm maybe, have you ever done such thing? i'm a little bit afraid of that lsb_core
[12:10] <ryannathans> Jan 22 10:33:49 atomic wpa_supplicant[659]: WPA: 4-Way Handshake failed - pre-shared key may be incorrect
[12:10] <ryannathans> ITS NOT WRONG
[12:10] <ryannathans> FFS
[12:10] <LjL> tete_: if postfix *depends on* lsb_core, lsb_core won't be removed
[12:10] <FloodBot1> ryannathans: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <LjL> tete_: it would be removed if lsb_core depended on postfix
[12:10] <Evolusion> hello - i have a problem with a webcam / lsbusb lists it, the loaded videodev module is gspca_main - but no application sees any input in /dev/video0 - in linux it works fine
[12:10] <Evolusion> any hints?
[12:10] <ryannathans> FloodBot1: go awa
[12:10] <tete_> LjL, thats what i meant ;)
[12:11] <ryannathans> I can't spell D:
[12:11] <Evolusion> i mean
[12:11] <Evolusion> in windows it works fine
[12:11] <CaptAnon> tell me
[12:11] <CaptAnon> If I was to tell some one my username and password and ip
[12:11] <tete_> ok got it, just apt-get install lsb-invalid-mta then it will remove postfix*
[12:11] <CaptAnon> they could log into my computer?
[12:11] <LjL> ryannathans: you should calm down and avoid caps for floodbot to go away :)
[12:11] <Gentoo64> CaptAnon, if you have ssh
[12:11] <Evolusion>  i have a problem with a webcam / lsbusb lists it, the loaded videodev module is gspca_main - but no application sees any input in /dev/video0 - in linux it works fine
[12:12] <oCean> RamtinA: maybe this can help you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMonitorInternetTrafficTotals
[12:12] <Gentoo64> or something
[12:12] <CaptAnon> I do have that as far as I know
[12:12] <is_null> CaptAnon: dell vostro v131 (god i hate it, why did i buy something else than a thinkpad), it's SSD and has 8 of RAM
[12:12] <is_null> maybe there is a cool powersave feature i could use for the SSD
[12:13] <CaptAnon> ok, well ram uses power
[12:13] <Gentoo64> is_null, ssds are power saving by default
[12:13] <CaptAnon> waid
[12:13] <CaptAnon> wait
[12:13] <CaptAnon> 8 whats of ram
[12:13] <Gentoo64> kb
[12:13] <CaptAnon> you dont need all that for ssh
[12:13] <CaptAnon> GB I assume
[12:13] <is_null> 8G
[12:14] <LjL> tete_: anyway maybe "sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install" does it, at least, it reinstalls without complaining here, might be worth trying next time
[12:14] <LjL> !enter
[12:14] <Richiie> Tjen
[12:14] <is_null> yes Gentoo64 i'm running ubuntu 11.10 on 8kb of ram, i'm hell of a hacker xD
[12:14] <Richiie> tjena har en snabb fråga om crontab
[12:14] <CaptAnon> if you are desperate for power I don't see why having less ram should not help
[12:14] <Gentoo64> :)
[12:14] <tete_> LjL, ok thanks, will try it if i have such a problem again ;)
[12:14] <CaptAnon> remove a few
[12:14] <Richiie> kan man köra en entry i crontab som följande,
[12:14] <LjL> !se | Richiie
[12:14] <Richiie> 5 4   5   */2  *   /path/to/script
[12:15] <Richiie> ops sorry,
[12:15] <ryannathans> anyone here with a wifi card and access point?
[12:15] <LjL> Richiie: anyway i don't see why not
[12:16] <RamtinA> oCean: thank you , i'm trying
[12:16] <Gentoo64> is_null, is the problem battery life or something
[12:16] <Richiie> Nah just wondering, it should work
[12:16] <Richiie> but if you are sure then im happy :)
[12:18] <CaptAnon> I can't really think of anything else that could save any power other then a dark screen, (brightness and colour)
[12:18] <LjL> Richiie: well there is nothing in man 5 crontab that hints that / in month wouldn't be allowed
[12:19] <oCean> Richiie: I agree with LjL, your example is correct
[12:19] <Richiie> ok thanks :)
[12:19] <g105b> I'd like to scrap unity from my setup, but not sure what alternatives I have... And what terminology should I use when refering to unity and its alternatives - are they "shells"?
[12:20] <Gentoo64> g105b: better off using another desktop
[12:20] <LjL> g105b: well, "shell" is correct. one alternative is GNOME-Shell, doesn't change the underlying DE
[12:20] <g105b> Gentoo64: what do you mean another desktop?
[12:20] <g105b> LjL: DE - Desktop Environment?
[12:20] <Nitronium> hey all :-)
[12:20] <LjL> g105b: correct
[12:21] <LjL> g105b: GNOME and KDE are DEs, Unity and GNOME-Shell are shells
[12:21] <Richiie> g105b: but you can ofc remove unity from your setup but then you will get the standard Gnome 2 desktop,
[12:21] <Gentoo64> nah it wont be gnome 2
[12:21] <LjL> or GNOME 3 depending on your Ubuntu version, more likely GNOME 3 i'd say
[12:21] <Gentoo64> or everyone would have don that lol
[12:21] <Richiie> LjL: if he runs 11.04 then he will get a standard Gnome 2 Desktop Environment :)
[12:22] <Richiie> tried it for my self to remove it and purge the unity packages completely,
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !info gnucash
[12:22] <g105b> I'm on ubuntu 11.10 - just uninstalled unity, and I'm back to gnome .....3? The gnome panels don't have a right click menu like in ubuntu 10 like I remember
[12:22] <LjL> g105b: no, they don't. it sounds like you're now using GNOME's fallback (which is not GNOME-Shell)
[12:22] <LjL> g105b: no matter what you use, it's going to be different from GNOME 2
[12:23] <Nitronium> are there any people familier with local ubuntu repositories around? I have a quick question regarding 64 and 32 bit packages
[12:23] <Gentoo64> if you just want plain panels then xfce and lxde are normal
[12:23] <ryannathans> anyone here with a wifi card and access point?
[12:23] <fluxx> I got Ubuntu dropped in a VM on a ArchLinux host. Looking around for Spotify in the Ubuntu repos (I hear they are full of blobs apps) Was wondering if Spotify was there.
[12:24] <g105b> LjL: Is there some DE that doesn't really include anything? I'd quite like to just have my own choice of dock/launcher and install my own workspace switcher thing
[12:24] <LjL> ryannathans: i recommend instead of asking "anyone" questions, you just repeat your issue (not too often) in full
[12:24] <Gentoo64> g105b: openbox
[12:24] <ryannathans> My issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885    I want it fixed or someone to confirm it's a bug
[12:24] <cameron> WHY ARE MY INTERNETS SO SLOW
[12:24] <LjL> !caps | cameron
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> ryannathans: there you have it confirmed
[12:25] <LjL> g105b: i'm pretty sure you can do that, but i wouldn't know how because i've been using a full-blown DE for a long time now
[12:25] <cameron> two hours to download 700mB........
[12:25] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: eh?
[12:25] <LjL> MonkeyDust: how so?
[12:25] <Gentoo64> g105b: by default openbox dont include anything other than window manager
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> what ubottu says, no?
[12:25] <g105b> LjL: what do you use, out of curiosity?
[12:26] <LjL> g105b: KDE
[12:26] <fluxx> cameron did you pay your internet bill. Just disable ipv6, often that fixes a bunch of issues
[12:26] <g105b> Gentoo64: that looks nice
[12:26] <LjL> MonkeyDust: he was the one reporting the bug.
[12:26] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: it's not confirmed
[12:26] <Gentoo64> g105b: yeah just choose your own panel, file manager etc
[12:26] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: that bot just reads out the link title etc.
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> ryannathans: at least it has a number and is known
[12:26] <ryannathans> MonkeyDust: I know, I reported it
[12:27] <g105b> Gentoo64: that's great - is there a good way I can remove everything else from my system or should I not bother, just install openbox?
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> ah :)
[12:27] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885
[12:27] <Gentoo64> g105b: you might as well just install lubuntu, its not plain openbox but its similar
[12:27] <Gentoo64> comes with stuff
[12:27] <ryannathans> Gentoo64: hehe, the lubuntu website needs work
[12:28] <Gentoo64> :s ive never used it
[12:28] <bastidrazor> ryannathans: does your wireless access point have MAC filtering?
[12:28] <cameron> fluxx, no its always this speed
[12:28] <ryannathans> bastidrazor: no
[12:28] <fluxx> cameron are you using wifi?
[12:29] <cameron> yes, but its exactly the same when im not using wifi
[12:29] <fluxx> cameron are you dropping packets?
[12:29] <cameron> idk?
[12:29] <fluxx> fluxx try installing wireshark and you should see whats going on.
[12:30] <Gentoo64> cameron: maybe thats just your speed...
[12:30] <SteM> hello, after the upgrade to natty i've lost my firefox bookmarks and i'm not able to store them. I reinstalled it but it did not solve
[12:31] <ginofernandes> Each time you start windows crashes grub. And you can not turn on the laptop. Loading the bios and then laptop reboots. In what may be a problem and how to solve it?
[12:32] <ginofernandes> Operating system's windows xp and ubuntu 10.04
[12:32] <Nitronium> don't start windows! heh
[12:33] <ginofernandes> I need windows!
[12:33] <Nitronium> it sounds like windows is overwriting the boot sector, although it shouldn't do that just on bootup
[12:33] <ginofernandes> Yes you are right! And how solve this problem&
[12:34] <Nitronium> do you start windows through grub?
[12:34] <ginofernandes> Yes
[12:34] <Nitronium> which one did you install second, linux or windows?
[12:35] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885   I'd really appreciated just a confirmation it's a bug
[12:35] <cameron> yes it probably is gentoo64
[12:37] <Nitronium> ginofernandes?
[12:38] <Nitronium> ah, pm, hang on
[12:40] <CaptAnon> Very important question how do I stop unity from showing files when I search for something
[12:41] <g105b> gnome 3 is as weirdly over-the-top as unity :/
[12:41] <g105b> trying to be a poor man's Apple
[12:41] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885   I'd really appreciated just a confirmation it's a bug
[12:41] <LjL> g105b: everybody said that of GNOME 2 too, though
[12:41] <ryannathans> all i need someone to do is put a aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa mac address in the cloned mac address section and if your wifi dies i can confirm it
[12:42] <g105b> LjL: oh right ... I just don't know what I want (or rather what's available, and what I can do with what's available). I was pretty happy with gnome 2 back then, but I thought I'd stick out at unity
[12:42] <g105b> LjL: but too many problems with it make my day a pain
[12:42] <SpenserWilde> Hi all.
[12:43] <LjL> g105b: well everybody seems to be saying "try XFCE" to people who would like to stick to the GNOME 2 experience, so i'll go with that. there are one or two GNOME 2 forks, but i don't think they're currently available for Ubuntu
[12:43] <lizard2k1> anyone help me please.. i can not logout from system
[12:43] <LjL> lizard2k1: what prevents you?
[12:43] <SpenserWilde> What's the package name for zlib in the Ubuntu repos?
[12:43] <g105b> LjL: thanks for the advice
[12:43] <lizard2k1> i do know, i can reboot, turn off, but cannot logout
[12:43] <lizard2k1> *don't
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> SpenserWilde: type apt-cache search zlib
[12:44] <LjL> SpenserWilde: zlib1g
[12:44] <yeats> !find zlib | SpenserWilde
[12:45] <lizard2k1> http://pastebin.com/9aYcNdUi
[12:46] <anette> hi?
[12:46] <LjL> hello?
[12:46] <anette> can any1 help me with uploading my website
[12:47] <lizard2k1> LjL: can you help me?
[12:47] <anette> im using afrihost and ezgenarator and filezxilla
[12:47] <SpenserWilde> Thanks all.
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> anette: your question being?
[12:48] <anette> but after uploading it when i go to my site ownley the front page works and theres no pictures and the second page doesnt work
[12:48] <LjL> lizard2k1: i'm afraid i don't have any clue about that error. you aren't by any chance using Precise? because i've seen a report of that for Precise
[12:48] <ryannathans> Is anyone able to help with/confirm this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/919885   I'd really appreciate just a confirmation it's a bug
[12:49] <anette> iow i dnt know how to upload it corectly
[12:50] <lizard2k1> LjL: Precis?
[12:50] <LjL> lizard2k1: Ubuntu 12.04
[12:50] <anette> and ive tried uploading so many times now the list is full of files
[12:50] <yeats> ryannathans: you just reported the bug within the last 12 hours - give the Ubuntu bugs team a chance to review it ;-)
[12:50] <Koolderson> is it possible that the additional drivers for Nvidia cards don't support unity 3D, while not installing them actually does make Unity 3D possible?
[12:50] <oCean> anette: how is your an Ubuntu issue? Maybe there is help on ezgenarator forums or such?
[12:51] <ryannathans> surely there's someone here on wifi that can verify that putting aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa in the 'cloned' glitches out
[12:51] <ryannathans> yeats: I just want confirmation to know i'm not insane ;D
[12:51] <LjL> Koolderson: both should support Unity 3D, however there could be some cards that are not supported by the proprietary drivers, i wouldn't know.
[12:51] <lizard2k1> LjL: Precise - what mean this word? (english not my first language)
[12:51] <yeats> ryannathans: I'll bet there are few here who want to potentially break their wifi to confirm that :-P
[12:52] <LjL> lizard2k1: "Precise Pangolin" is the codename for Ubuntu 12.04. "Precise" literally means "accurate" or something like that
[12:52] <Koolderson> LjL: thanks, I'll keep that in mind
[12:52] <ryannathans> yeats: to fix it all you need to do is delete the mac from the box
[12:52] <Pseudoephedrine> Would anyone be able to explain to me or give me a tutorial on how to install a CSS template so i can use it with my webpage?
[12:52] <anette> ok if no 1 knows can some1 direct me on who to ask cos ive beeen trying for days now
[12:52] <ryannathans> Pseudoephedrine: how is that a #ubuntu question?
[12:53] <ryannathans> Pseudoephedrine: askin #css
[12:53] <LjL> Pseudoephedrine: that's not very ontopic for here i think, there is a #css channel that might be of help
[12:53] <ryannathans> LjL: ha! baet you
[12:53] <LjL> ryannathans: not on my screen :P
[12:53] <lizard2k1> LjL: my ubuntu is 11.04
[12:53] <ryannathans> Man i can't spell
[12:53] <ryannathans> LjL: orly?
[12:54] <LjL> ryannathans: we sent it at approximately the same time, which can well result in your screen showing yours first and mine showing mine first
[12:54] <obakfahad> guys....if i install alpha(precise) , is it will get 3 years support?
[12:54] <ryannathans> LjL: I'm aware of how it works ;D
[12:54] <ryannathans> damn ping!
[12:54] <LjL> obakfahad: right now, if you install Precise, you won't get *any* support. it's not released.
[12:54] <sumit_> hiioiii
[12:54] <sumit_> frn
[12:54] <sumit_> how to use irc chat
[12:54] <ryannathans> lol ^
[12:54] <SuperEngineer> The ultimate message to SOPA/PIPA advocates: listen to the first few secs of lastest Linux Outlaws podcast. http://feeds.feedburner.com/linuxoutlaws-ogg
[12:55] <oCean> anette: well, it's not on topic for this channel. Maybe start at the Support button at http://www.ezgenerator.com/howto.php?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> SuperEngineer: wrong channel
[12:55] <oCean> SuperEngineer: don't post that here
[12:55] <LjL> sumit_: /join #test and make yourself familiar with it
[12:55] <sumit_> okkk
[12:55] <sumit_> so all you r hacker
[12:55] <LjL> !ot | sumit_
[12:56] <SuperEngineer> MonkeyDust: oCean  - boo! hiss!  [that was a Ttongue in cheek post - not meant to annoy, soz]
[12:56] <sumit_> can you suggest me any hackers community on irc m new to hear
[12:56] <Guest92294> hello
[12:57] <LjL> !alis > sumit_
[12:57] <LjL> !irc > sumit_
[12:57] <Guest92294> is this the place for ubuntu?
[12:57] <LjL> sumit_: i've sent you messages that should help you finding channels
[12:57] <LjL> Guest92294: yes
[12:57] <oCean> Guest92294: correct
[12:57] <Calinou> can't sudo apt-get update or sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:57] <Calinou> dpkg being occuped - nothing's on about apt though
[12:57] <LjL> Calinou: what happens when you try?
[12:57] <lizard2k1> LjL: i can not get select user gui, menu logout not working, other ways too
[12:57] <Guest92294> i never used IRC before can someone help me connect to
[12:57] <Calinou> "could not lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[12:58] <oCean> Guest92294: you're currently connected :)
[12:58] <Calinou> I tried to update stuff using the graphical update manager (ubuntu 11.10)
[12:58] <lizard2k1> other way is gnome-session-save --logout
[12:58] <Calinou> but nothing appeared
[12:58] <LjL> Calinou: does "ps aux | grep apt\|dpkg" show anything aside from grep itself?
[12:58] <Calinou> calinou   2345  0.0  0.0   4464   804 pts/3    D+   13:58   0:00 grep --color=auto apt|dpkg
[12:58] <Guest92294> trying to install ubuntu on mac but it is not working not USB not CD nothing
[12:59] <LjL> !aptlock | Calinou
[12:59] <Guest92294> any help?
[12:59] <meerkats> Im going to install yacy, for that i need to edit etc/apt/sources.list:
[13:00] <meerkats> where do I find it'
[13:00] <meerkats> ?
[13:00] <LjL> meerkats: in /etc/apt...? :P
[13:00] <LjL> meerkats: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:00] <Calinou> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[13:00] <mintman> LjL: what exactly does this command show????  ps aux | grep apt\|dpkg
[13:00] <meerkats> thanks for the command LjL
[13:00] <lizard2k1> meerkats: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:00] <Guest92294> hello is this help for ubuntu?
[13:00] <LjL> mintman: it should show every running process with a command line that contains the words "apt" or "dpkg"
[13:01] <LjL> Guest92294: yes. be patient and if no one replies, ask your question again later.
[13:01] <yeats> !mac
[13:01] <mintman> LjL: ok thats a new terminal command for me thanks...
[13:01] <LjL> Calinou: even after doing sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
[13:02] <ryannathans> !macaddress
[13:02] <ryannathans> naw
[13:02] <Calinou> works, now
[13:04] <meerkats> what is the opposite of alt-tab?
[13:04] <meerkats> in unity
[13:04] <Calinou> shift-alt-tab...?
[13:05] <mintman> LjL: u couldnt simply reboot to stop locked dpkg package?
[13:05] <LjL> mintman: i don't think so
[13:06] <mintman> LjL: can u suggest what I can read to understand the process of the dpkg package??
[13:06] <LjL> mintman: not sure what you mean
[13:07] <lizard2k1> mintman: man and wiki?
[13:07] <mintman> LjL: never mind did a manpage to understand what the accornim stands for with dpkg
[13:08] <KenBW2> Is it possible that a DVD could play half successfully and then at some point need additional codecs to continue?
[13:09] <AFD> I can't boot after my laptop ran out of juice ... the error = "Could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm/.ICEauthority"
[13:10] <LjL> AFD: can you reach a shell?
[13:10] <mintman> LjL: thought we were to call a purge or a remove package to elimanate package problems?? why would the database lock?
[13:10] <AFD> ctrl+alt+F2
[13:10] <AFD> yeah
[13:10] <LjL> mintman: dpkg lock has nothing to do with purging or removing. dpkg lock is when dpkg is running, to stop other dpkg instances from running. if dpkg crashes, the lock stays.
[13:11] <mintman> LjL: got u had this problem yrs ago with ubuntu
[13:11] <AFD> LjL: I read online to remove the ICEauthority file but when I try it says there isn't one
[13:13] <mongy> AFD,  are you trying to remove ICE authority or .ICEauthority
[13:13] <AFD> .ICEauthority but as I say it doesn't seem to exist
[13:14] <LjL> AFD: shooting a bit in the dark here, but what does "ls -l ~/.ICEauthority" say?
[13:14] <AFD> LjL: "No such file or directory"
[13:15] <AFD> my /home/ is excrypted - this might be why(?)
[13:16] <mintman> I haven't seen soom of these problems except dating back to ubuntu 8.10.  I wonder with all these changes in gnome2 to gnome 3 and unity are causing conflicts. :(
[13:16] <mintman> soom = some
[13:17] <LjL> AFD: dunno, but that file should exist. i'm trying to find out how to regenerate it now.
[13:17] <AFD> LjL: thanks for the help
[13:19] <Cameron> ryannathans: how can i install the alternate version on a usb stick?
[13:19] <auronandace> !usb | Cameron
[13:19] <yeats> !alternate | Cameron
[13:20] <AFD> LjL: I can see my home folder ok using ls... the last time I got to a desktop I had the same error and couldn't see the /home
[13:20] <Cameron> auronandace and yeats, i have downloaded the alternate version but im using the universal usb installer and it's not finding the iso
[13:20] <LjL> AFD: shooting even more in the dark, but try installing the package "gnome-session"
[13:21] <yeats> Cameron: what do you mean "not finding"?
[13:22] <AFD> LjL: says it's already the newest version... also I can't reach the network
[13:22] <AFD> LjL: I might just hook up an exernal hdd and get my home folder backed up
[13:22] <LjL> AFD: well, the issue *should* get solved if you make a new user
[13:22] <AFD> LjL: then if I can't salvage things as they are I can reinstall
[13:22] <Cameron> YEATS: i changed the name to -desktop and it worked fine
[13:22] <LjL> AFD: so you could make a new user and then copy over everything from the old user's home directory
[13:23] <yeats> Cameron: good
[13:23] <AFD> LjL: I can't use sudo either - it says "/etc/sudoers is owner by uid 1000, should be 0"
[13:23] <AFD> LjL:  ok - I'll try making a new user
[13:23] <LjL> AFD: wut, something is seriously messed up here then...
[13:24] <LjL> AFD: does "ls -l /etc/sudoers" actually show you own it?
[13:24] <AFD> LjL: can't add a user without root
[13:24] <LjL> AFD: no you can't
[13:24] <AFD> LjL:  yeah I own that
[13:24] <AFD> but it's read only
[13:24] <AFD> owner and group
[13:25] <LjL> AFD: ok you need to reboot into recovery mode or whatever it's called these days (can always add "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel's command line), then you'll have root, and from there you can "chown root:root /etc/sudoers"
[13:25] <LjL> AFD: however, i think these multiple symptoms are showing there might be something *quite* wrong with your install, so... :\
[13:26] <AFD> ouch
[13:26] <AFD> ok
[13:26] <AFD> thanks again- I'm going to make the backup then reinstall just so I have a clean system
[13:26] <LjL> AFD: yes, i would probably do that
[13:27] <stavrosLinux> why is the name "ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso" ? isnt it comfusing since it also works for intel ?
[13:27] <LjL> stavrosLinux: "AMD64" is the generic name for the 64-bit architecture in these processors
[13:28] <AFD> LjL: should my external drive appear in /mnt ?
[13:28] <LjL> AFD: /media, generally
[13:29] <stavrosLinux> LjL what about x86-64 or intel-64?
[13:29] <LjL> AFD: but without your DE running, it might not show up automatically, in that case mount it manually
[13:29] <LjL> stavrosLinux: wasn't it as confusing for things to be called "Intel" when they also worked for AMD? :P it's just that this time, AMD won the architectures battle.
[13:29] <AFD> LjL: can I force a mount without sudo?
[13:29] <LjL> AFD: unsure, depends on your user's permissions, try
[13:30] <AFD> LjL: no :(
[13:30] <AFD> can't fdisk
[13:30] <LjL> AFD: fdisk you can't for sure
[13:30] <LjL> AFD: you could again reboot into recovery, but i'm not sure if you can access your encrypted home from there...?
[13:32] <AFD> LjL: I have an ssd in this machine that will probably be sdb1 right (?) so the external drive would be sdb2...?
[13:32] <LjL> AFD: no
[13:32] <AFD> I can't see it using fdisk so I'm trying to guess
[13:32] <LjL> AFD: those are partitions, not drives
[13:33] <LjL> AFD: if the ssd is sdb, then the external drive might or might not be sdc
[13:33] <LjL> AFD: (though when you try mounting you do need to mount the partition, so sdc1 or something)
[13:33] <AFD> LjL: ok - I'm gonna guess to try mounting it
[13:34] <AFD> "only root can do that" :(
[13:35] <AFD> I won't be able to alter the sudoers file without root either right?
[13:35] <LjL> AFD: no, you won't
[13:35] <middd> is this the place for Ubuntu?
[13:35] <LjL> AFD: only option left seems to go into recovery really
[13:35] <LjL> middd: yes
[13:35] <AFD> LjL: I'll try that...
[13:36] <LjL> AFD: again though i don't remember how to access recovery mode in recent versions, so if there's no entry in GRUB or stuff, just edit the kernel's command line and add "init=/bin/bash", then it should drop you into a root shell
[13:37] <oCean> AFD: LjL, for grub2 press <shift> to access grubmenu
[13:37] <AFD> I might live boot as I can't seem to get in to recovery
[13:37] <AFD> live boot and create a new user
[13:38] <LjL> AFD: i wouldn't know how to do that from a live cd myself.
[13:38] <oCean> AFD: why can't you get in recovery mode?
[13:38] <AFD> the ubuntu wiki says to hit escape to get in to recovery mode
[13:38] <AFD> but no option is given
[13:39] <oCean> AFD: that's old grub, grub2 uses <shift>
[13:39] <Pseudoephedrine> Any good photo editors for Ubuntu.. Maybe not with as many features as photoshop, but something i can change/add layers, change hue colors ect..
[13:39] <AFD> ;) thanks
[13:39] <LjL> Pseudoephedrine: GIMP, Krita
[13:39] <ssta> stavrosLinux: it's basically historic.  ia64 was given to itanium processors before there was an x86-64.  AMD had the first x86-64bit processors, and the name kinda stuck as AMD64 to differentiate between itanium.
[13:40] <chim_chim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_therapy
[13:40] <chim_chim> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_therapy
[13:40] <oCean> chim_chim: ?
[13:40] <LjL> Chris_0076: err?
[13:40] <LjL> chim_chim even
[13:42] <Pseudoephedrine> LjL: thanks
[13:43] <stavrosLinux> ssta Ι understand, but I believe it should be clearer
[13:44] <ssta> stavrosLinux: lots of stuff should be clearer.  If you change the name now after this long, lots of stuff will be less clear
[13:45] <ssta> stavrosLinux: amd basically "invented" the 64bit architecture for the x86 line of chips (or at least were the fist to have one), I don't think it's wrong to reflect that in the name
[13:45] <Cameron> ryannathans: that didnt work
[13:46] <Cameron> yeats: it didnt work
[13:46] <Cameron> uh
[13:46] <LjL> maybe the AMD64 discussion should be moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:46] <Cameron> it booted but then when i click run from usb/install it just refreshed the screen
[13:47] <aademarco> will a dbus session address socket in /var/tmp/ be re-created on restart if i delete it
[13:48] <ssta> aademarco: should be.  /tmp and /var/tmp aren't expected to survive a reboot
[13:48] <aademarco> perfect tysm
[13:48] <stavrosLinux> LjL I stop here, thanks alot
[13:48] <francois_> vous pouvez tu me dire si ilfo configurer xubuntu pour p3
[13:48] <ssta> aademarco: any application that depends on the data being there after a reboot is buggy, and should have a bug filed
[13:48] <Cameron> gargh ill just use a disc
[13:48] <oCean> !fr | francois_
[13:49] <allballs> So, I've got a problem. I have an Iomega ix-200 NAS device. I've created a 4TB ISCI target. On an Ubuntu machine, I point at the target, initiate, and fdisk. fdisk shows 4TB. Great. I partition as 83, then format ext4. upon completion, Ubuntu shows 1.9TB free, not 4TB.
[13:49] <aademarco> well im in a bit of a reverse situation.  I have a stale file there do to a crash installing Xorg, so gconf is unable to connect to my network session due to 'stale NFS locks' so the problem is that it DID survive :)
[13:49] <aademarco> i think
[13:50] <Ben64> allballs: what does fdisk say afterwards
[13:50] <allballs> 4TB.
[13:51] <Ben64> partition size?
[13:51] <allballs> Disk /dev/sdd: 4398.0 GB, 4398046511104 bytes
[13:51] <allballs> wait a second... hmm.
[13:51] <yeats> Cameron: did you boot from the USB or from your hard disk?
[13:52] <allballs> DOH. That's the disk size... partition 1 is 2TB. wtf?
[13:52] <yeats> Cameron: are you trying to install from inside windows? (wubi)?
[13:52] <allballs> fdisk can't create a partition larger than 2tb??
[13:52] <Ben64> allballs: dunno, i usually use parted
[13:53] <allballs> Ben64: I'll give parted a shot, then.
[13:53] <aademarco> allballs thats a good question ive never had more than 1tb
[13:53] <Ben64> but 2TB has been the largest I've made so far
[13:53] <Ben64> hard drive prices are still very high
[13:54] <ssta> allballs: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html
[13:54] <LjL> allballs: if it's partitioned as MBR, it can't be more than 2TB, i think, although i don't know about fdisk
[13:54] <Sinless> Is there a way to easily create desktop icons?
[13:54] <Sinless> in 11.10
[13:54] <allballs> ssta: I'm reading that page right now, actually.
[13:54] <allballs> Thanks, all. I'm on target for a fix.
[13:55] <ssta> yet another case of design decisions that looked good at the time but failed to take expansion into account :)
[13:59] <danny> hello i would like to know if any can show me hwo to use the advanced partition tool used for ubuntu 11.10 install the is /dev/sda1 fat16 41mb . /dev/sda2 ntfs 12287 mb . /dev/sda3 ntfs 307742 mb, i would like to install on sda 3 but during reg instalation it with only give me sda2 to install to so can someone tell me how to split sda 3 so i dont lose windows and can duel install ubuntu onto half of it
[14:01] <danny> hello i would like to know if any can show me hwo to use the advanced partition tool used for ubuntu 11.10 install the is /dev/sda1 fat16 41mb . /dev/sda2 ntfs 12287 mb . /dev/sda3 ntfs 307742 mb, i would like to install on sda 3 but during reg instalation it with only give me sda2 to install to so can someone tell me how to split sda 3 so i dont lose windows and can duel install ubuntu onto half of it
[14:02] <danny> hello i would like to know if any can show me hwo to use the advanced partition tool used for ubuntu 11.10 install the is /dev/sda1 fat16 41mb . /dev/sda2 ntfs 12287 mb . /dev/sda3 ntfs 307742 mb, i would like to install on sda 3 but during reg instalation it with only give me sda2 to install to so can someone tell me how to split sda 3 so i dont lose windows and can duel install ubuntu onto half of it
[14:02] <LjL> !repeat | danny
[14:02] <allballs> perfect. parted worked like a charm. 4.4TB drive being formatted ext4. Whew, this is going to take a while.
[14:04] <Promot> hello
[14:04] <danny> hello
[14:05] <Promot> new about megaupload?
[14:05] <LjL> !ot
[14:06] <Sinless> Hey guys, does anybody here use Sublime Text 2?
[14:06] <addy569> lo
[14:06] <addy569> hello
[14:06] <addy569> any one there
[14:07] <LjL> no
[14:07] <addy569> hey ljl
[14:07] <addy569> can u help me
[14:07] <addy569> any body help over linuc
[14:07] <addy569> linux
[14:07] <e|f> note to self: www.manpages.com is NOT an online resource to get *nix man pages
[14:07] <AlanBell> addy569: you have not asked a question yet, so we don't know if we can help
[14:08] <danny> i dont know to much but i might be able to help
[14:08] <danny> yeh ha i second alanbells statment
[14:08] <AlanBell> e|f: good to know, thanks. manpages.ubuntu.com is though
[14:09] <e|f> i guess "can u help me" is a question
[14:09] <e|f> :P
[14:09] <addy_> hello
[14:09] <addy_> can any body help over linux
[14:09] <LjL> !ask
[14:09] <addy_> please
[14:09] <danny> if u ask what ur problem is
[14:09] <Promot> pleas i need channel french on irc give me one ^^
[14:09] <LjL> !fr | Promot
[14:10] <e|f> !patience
[14:10] <addy_> i have toshiba satellite c640 x4013
[14:10] <addy_> i have install ubuntu 8.10
[14:10] <LjL> addy_: Ubuntu 8.10 is very old and unsupported.
[14:10] <addy_> ant i try to  connect internet
[14:10] <AlanBell> !dualboot | danny
[14:10] <addy_> but vpn is have a locked
[14:11] <kurtul> how do you type unicode in libreoffice?
[14:11] <addy_> and when i try to connect lan cabel then is not working
[14:11] <addy_> what should i do
[14:11] <chim_chim> addy_ get ubuntu 11.10
[14:11] <addy_> where
[14:11] <AFD> LjL: are you still here?
[14:11] <LjL> AFD: yes
[14:12] <AFD> LjL: :D I've managed to boot in to a live OS
[14:12] <m4k> what is the difference between ubuntu command line installation and base system installation?
[14:12] <chim_chim> addy_ search google for ubuntu 11.10
[14:12] <AFD> LjL: I see the encrypted home folder and can't copy from it... is there a way to add the new user to that installation rather than the live one?
[14:13] <AlanBell> addy_: how did you come to have 8.10 installed?
[14:13] <addy_> ok
[14:13] <AlanBell> did it come with that pre-installed?
[14:13] <LjL> AFD: maybe if you chroot and stuff, but i really wouldn't know how to do that :\
[14:13] <lucas-arg> i need to make kworld ub405-a tv usb stick work under ubuntu!!
[14:13] <addy_> actually i try to instal 9.10
[14:13] <addy_> but failed
[14:13] <chim_chim> maybe he burned the cd a while ago
[14:13] <AlanBell> !11.10
[14:13] <oCean> chim_chim: don't tell people to "google"
[14:13] <addy_> could u tell me procedure for sound driver
[14:14] <AlanBell> addy_: you could install the current version of Ubuntu, but on the other hand you should be able to get networking working on what you have
[14:14] <chim_chim> addy if the laptop is very old there is another linux called DamnSmallLinux or DSL.
[14:14] <chim_chim> anyways....
[14:14] <AFD> LjL: ok - I'll see what I can do
[14:14] <chim_chim> nigth
[14:14] <chim_chim> night
[14:15] <oCean> AFD: so you did not manage to boot into recovery mode?
[14:15] <glenterprise> m4k: i believe command line installation (cli) will greet you with a command line where you have to write the commands to continue with install. base system installation might be with a GUI (not sure on that one)
[14:15] <AFD> oCean: no
[14:15] <addy_> alanbell i have toshiba satellite
[14:15] <LjL> AFD: as in, Shift didn't get you to GRUB at all?
[14:15] <addy_> 2 gen i3
[14:15] <AFD> LjL: nope :(
[14:16] <addy_> i wanna to install sound driver so could u help me
[14:16] <AlanBell> addy_: ok, so have you had it running ubuntu for 3 years or something? why were you installing 8.10 on it?
[14:16] <oCean> AFD: ok, I have no clue how to work it from live cd
[14:16] <slide> I have bind installed on ubuntu compiled to use mysql and am getting an error when i try to run it, APPARMOR access denied for file /usr/share/mysql/charsets/Index.xml
[14:16] <slide> kernel: [1434590.020072] type=1400 audit(1327241467.138:24): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=12997 profile="/usr/sbin/named" name="/usr/share/mysql/charsets/Index.xml" pid=12999 comm="named" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=108 ouid=0
[14:17] <AFD> oCean: don't worry - I'm just going to try to get my files off this machine asap and reinstall
[14:17] <LjL> AFD: i'd give it another try... it's going to be much easier than try to do things from the live CD. keep Shift pressed, or try pressing it repeatedly just before the BIOS hands over... it really should come up
[14:17] <danny> ok so i am useing gparted to repartion /dev/sda3 and it has 286.61 gib i would like to make 130 g free for me to install ubuntu onto it so i click resize and it gives me 3 boxes to change the top one says free space preceding (MiB) 0 then the one under it says new size(MiB) 293486 and under that says free space following (MiB) 0 and under that says align to and gives me the options Mib cylinder, MiB, None what should i change all the
[14:17] <danny> values to get what i want
[14:17] <m4k> glenterprise: that currect. Base system installation system also cli
[14:17] <AlanBell> addy_: sound is built in, it should just work, in general on Ubuntu all the drivers are just there, if they exist
[14:18] <AFD> can you remove recovery mode if you do apt-get autoclean and autoremove?
[14:18] <addy_> and how it woek
[14:18] <addy_> work
[14:18] <LjL> AFD: not really
[14:18] <oCean> AFD: no, recovery mode is just a menuentry in grub.cfg
[14:18] <addy_> alanbell could u give me u r email id so contact u later
[14:18] <addy_> please
[14:19] <douglas-web-dev> Hello guys
[14:19] <AlanBell> addy_: no, you can get support here, I don't do private support (unless you want to pay my consulting rates)
[14:19] <addy_> ok
[14:19] <addy_> i try to call u later
[14:19] <addy_> thanks
[14:20] <AlanBell> addy_: you need to give more information for people to be able to help addy_
[14:20] <douglas-web-dev> Please, how can I change the Ubuntu One account associated with my Ubuntu 11.10 user account?
[14:20] <anandjeyahar> hey am on 11.04 and face problem with audio after hibernate/suspend.
[14:20] <addy_> ok
[14:20] <LjL> douglas-web-dev: not sure, but you may try asking in #ubuntuone
[14:20] <danny> AlanBell, am i giving enough information i thought i was pretty outright and told everything
[14:20] <anandjeyahar> i.e audio doesn't work.
[14:21] <AlanBell> danny: you are, I just don't know the answer to that one
[14:21] <anandjeyahar> any existin' bugs?
[14:21] <douglas-web-dev> LjL, Ok, thank you!
[14:21] <danny> ah oke
[14:22] <LjL> anandjeyahar: there is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/877844
[14:22] <anandjeyahar> thanks i'll take a look.. i do remember running upgrade.. though the System->about still shows 11.04
[14:23] <LjL> anandjeyahar: also this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/799102
[14:27] <firerat> hey all, im having a bit of an issue with my onboard nic
[14:27] <firerat> so i used google and apparently ubuntu 10.04 uses the wrong driver for my card (on a fresh install)
[14:27] <firerat> so i need to change drivers to the correct one.
[14:27] <firerat> the problem is i'm just now learning linux and ubuntu in general
[14:27] <firerat> can anyone sorta help me out?
[14:28] <bazhang> firerat, what nic
[14:28] <douglas-web-dev> I can't understand... Why one of my computers with Ubuntu 11.10 is not installing softwares via Software Center nor Muon? It's not asking for the root password while opening them.
[14:28] <douglas-web-dev> Would someone help me to solve this?
[14:29] <douglas-web-dev> I can only install programs via terminal...
[14:29] <firerat> its the onboard nic, realtek RTL8111E
[14:29] <Guest48853> is this for question about ubuntu?
[14:30] <bazhang> Guest48853, yes
[14:30] <bazhang> firerat, looking now
[14:30] <firerat> douglas-web-dev: perhaps you need to change the way sudo asks for permission (im not sure i worded this right)
[14:30] <firerat> su vs sudo
[14:30] <firerat> what i mean is i had the same problem, i could only install from the terminal
[14:31] <firerat> and it turned out "software center" was not getting permission properl
[14:31] <firerat> properly*
[14:31] <douglas-web-dev> firerat, thank you, but how did you do that?
[14:32] <bazhang> http://www.twm-kd.com/linux/realtek-rtl81688111e-and-ubuntu-linux/ firerat you mean this?
[14:32] <oCean> firerat, douglas-web-dev never use 'su' and don't use 'sudo' for graphical applications, in that case use 'gksudo'
[14:32] <firerat> douglas, first try to open software center using gksudo command first
[14:33] <Guest48853> excellent, i am struggeling with instaling ubuntu in a mac, weather on the HDD or a USB or extranal HD
[14:33] <firerat> and try to install a program that way to see if thats your issue.
[14:33] <douglas-web-dev> firerat, Ok, just a sec
[14:33]  * iamfast sent you a spam message about linux-having-nice-time! it's crappy, but If you want to read it, Press ALT + Z.
[14:33] <iamfast> zz
[14:33] <darbe> how can I fix webmail notifier
[14:33] <LjL> iamfast: ahum?
[14:33] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm trying to get the latest nvidia driver to work under ubuntu 11.10, using x-swat ppa. However after installing the new nvidia-drivers ubuntu won't boot. Anyone that has managed to install and use x-swat nvidia drivers under ubuntu 11.10, could you in such case supply a ditailed step-by-step? Tanks!
[14:33] <darbe> after ubuntu update it doesn't work
[14:34] <darbe> all email accounts are disappear
[14:37] <ubuntu_> hi
[14:37] <darbe> hi
[14:37] <Cameron|iPad> Ryannathans
[14:38] <Cameron|iPad> I installed it but when I boot it does the line thing again
[14:38] <Cameron|iPad> I'm in the recovery menu, is there any way to install the driver?
[14:38] <douglas-web-dev> firerat cool, it worked with gksudo! Just the layout became messed up with this command :/
[14:39] <ubuntu_> can i compil my own tegra xorg driver ?
[14:41] <Cameron> Sorry
[14:41] <Cameron> Did you say anything?
[14:43] <Cameron> Yeats?
[14:43] <firerat> douglas, it did? im afraid i have not a single idea why.. :(
[14:43] <firerat> at least you are heading in the right direction
[14:43] <linuxnewb> hello:)
[14:44] <wdonkey> Anybody experienced a graphic card intermitent malfunction ? sometimes the computer will boot and sometimes not
[14:44] <linuxnewb> I am a linux nub. is there a way i can view movies music etc from an external hard drive that was used for win7?
[14:45] <Cameron> Ryannathans?
[14:45] <AlanBell> hi linuxnewb, it should just work, plug it in and browse around it for the files
[14:45] <linuxnewb> thanks :) <3
[14:46] <Cameron> Anyone?..
[14:46] <urbanlime> hi, is it possible to have openVZ to contain centOS and ubuntu, and use the ubuntu one like a desktop (e.g. host my website on centos cpanel while using my computer on ubuntu)
[14:48] <LiquidDemocracy> Hey Ubuntu fans. What does one have to do to be able to view .wmv movies under Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit?
[14:48] <Cameron> Can anyone help me install an msi driver from the Ubuntu terminal?
[14:48] <LjL> LiquidDemocracy: several ways i guess, but i just use VLC. although i suspect some WMVs which are DRM'd or whatever will still not play.
[14:49] <linuxnewb> hmmm. i tried to get the google chromium and kept getting errors of doom. anyone know wtf?
[14:49] <Onewhohelps> server freenode
[14:49] <LiquidDemocracy> LjL, I also use VLC but these wmv files don't play.
[14:51] <bkerensa> urbanlime: Yes
[14:51] <LiquidDemocracy> And this is very suckykowski!
[14:52] <linuxnewb> thanks for your help everyone. :)
[14:52] <urbanlime> bkerensa: will I be able to do things like burning dvds and browsing with mozilla firefox?
[14:52] <LiquidDemocracy> urbanlime, when doing what?
[14:53] <LjL> LiquidDemocracy: the other way i personally know of is to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package and play from there. also there might still be win32 codecs in Medibuntu, it's been a very long time since i last looked at that... no guarantees of anything
[14:53] <Cameron|iPad> Someone please help me!?
[14:53] <LiquidDemocracy> LjL, OK, thank you.
[14:53] <auronandace> Cameron: msi driver?
[14:53] <e|f> Cameeron|iPad: it's ok, just remain calm, disconnect and take your iPad back to the store... i'm sure you can get a refund
[14:53] <bazhang> w64codecs in your case LiquidDemocracy
[14:54] <LiquidDemocracy> But I can not install w32 codecs under 64 bit.
[14:54] <AlanBell> Cameron|iPad: what is an msi?
[14:54] <bazhang> www.medibuntu.org have a look
[14:54] <Cameron|iPad> Graphics card
[14:54] <bazhang> LiquidDemocracy, which is why I suggest the win64codecs
[14:54] <Cameron|iPad> Uh msi 6790
[14:54] <bkerensa> urbanlime: I would assume so yes.... OpenVZ allows isolated containers it turns one machine into multiple virtual machines that can have seperate linux installs and run a variety of things using one piece of hardware so yes in theory you could run and do anything
[14:55] <Peter-C> How large should my swap drive me?
[14:55] <popey> Peter-C: depends if you plan on hibernating your machine or not, and what else you do with it
[14:55] <auronandace> Peter-C: how much ram do you have?
[14:55] <DragonSlay> Peter-C, 1/2 of RAM or equal to RAM
[14:55] <meerkats> how do I access my router's configuration?
[14:55] <Cameron|iPad> Pm2digd5
[14:55] <Peter-C> 8GB
[14:55] <popey> Peter-C: is it a laptop or desktop?
[14:55] <Peter-C> laptop
[14:56] <popey> Peter-C: do you want to hibernate?
[14:56] <Peter-C> Nope
[14:56] <Erealz> meerkats 192.168.1.1
[14:56] <auronandace> meerkats: via a browser
[14:56] <popey> Peter-C: what do you use the laptop for? - main 3 things?
[14:56] <Peter-C> Business, internet, nothing too big
[14:56] <Peter-C> *maybe* games?
[14:56] <popey> Peter-C: running large virtual machines ? video editing?
[14:57] <Peter-C> no
[14:57] <popey> Peter-C: then probably no more than 1-2GB would be fine, you could probably get away with less
[14:57] <popey> Peter-C: is it an HDD or SSD?
[14:57] <Cameron|iPad> *pm2d1gd5
[14:57] <Peter-C> HDD
[14:57] <popey> Peter-C: couple of Gig then IMO
[14:57] <popey> Peter-C: other opinions may vary ☺
[14:57] <Peter-C> 4?
[14:57] <bkerensa> Cameron|iPad: What is your question?
[14:57] <popey> 4 is fine, you'll probably not use it much
[14:57] <AlanBell> !ati | Cameron|iPad
[14:58] <loculinux> hola
[14:58] <auronandace> Peter-C: if you do plan to suspend/hibernate swap must be at least as much as your ram
[14:58] <popey> auronandace: nope, it doesn't
[14:58] <Cameron|iPad> Alanbell, I need to install it in terminal
[14:58] <Cameron|iPad> Or the recovery thing as I have no access to the GUI
[14:59] <auronandace> popey: what happens if you are trying to suspend and you are using more ram than you have swap?
[14:59] <bkerensa> Cameron|iPad: That resource provides instructions for troubleshooting via Terminal and making changes
[14:59] <popey> auronandace: suspend doesnt need swap at all
[14:59] <popey> auronandace: hibernate does
[15:00] <auronandace> popey: sorry, thats what i meant
[15:00] <NTQ> Hi. I have writing problems with every usb stick I tested. The guy who writes the following thread has the same problem but still no fix for the issue: http://superuser.com/questions/203538/how-do-i-get-better-usb-transfer-speeds-in-xubuntu
[15:00] <popey> auronandace: he already said he doesnt plan to hibernate, so it's not a problem
[15:00] <AlanBell> Cameron|iPad: I think "sudo apt-get install fglrx" might do it
[15:00] <NTQ> Maybe anyone else here in the channel has some ideas to test?
[15:01] <Cameron|iPad> I don't think wifi is set up :/
[15:01] <AlanBell> Cameron|iPad: probably easier to temporarily move it to plug in a wire, but you can set up wireless from the command line
[15:02] <Cameron|iPad> Erm how, allanbell? :L
[15:04] <bkerensa> Cameron|iPad: More info on this can be found here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 but as AlanBell suggested wired would be the way to go.
[15:05] <tony_> Hi all - quick question - fresh install of 11.10 alongside xp however the grub menu is giving me a video out of range message - is this the correct link to fix it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/52910/signal-out-of-range-when-starting-grub-after-server-installation
[15:07] <Cameron|iPad> I'm gonna move it now
[15:10] <Ibis> tony_: Yes.
[15:12] <ryannathans> how to connect to wpa2 network via terminal
[15:12] <ryannathans> google is failing me
[15:12] <ryannathans> all the guides are crap
[15:12] <bazhang> ryannathans, which guides, what have you tried specifically
[15:13] <ryannathans> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1654284
[15:13] <ryannathans> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-debian-ubuntu-linux-wlan-wpa2-configuration.html
[15:13] <bazhang> ryannathans, the !wifi guide is fairly comprehensive
[15:13] <ryannathans> !wifi
[15:13] <ryannathans> terminal?
[15:13] <ryannathans> wpa2?
[15:13] <bazhang> yes?
[15:14] <evernoob> I've just installed 11.10 64bit to existing LUKS LVM for /, and separate LUKS volume for /home. On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. How can I fix this?
[15:15] <ryannathans> bazhang: no it doesn't
[15:15] <ryannathans> only goes over WEP via terminal
[15:16] <bazhang> ryannathans, please tell me what specifically is giving you trouble. ie in the guide
[15:16] <ryannathans> it doesn't tell me how to connect to wpa2 network via terminal
[15:16] <ryannathans> only wep, the wep method doesn't work
[15:16] <ryannathans> sudo iwconfig wlan0 key FEFEFEFEFE -- this line won't work for wpa
[15:17] <Calinou> how to move panels in gnome 3?
[15:17] <Calinou> I installed and started the system monitor panel, how can I move it?
[15:18] <bazhang> ryannathans, whats the card
[15:19] <ryannathans> bazhang: ath9k/aetheros and a alfa networks/rt2800usb (used to be rt2870sta)
[15:19] <luigi69> Hi, I have problem with curlftpfs. When i mount it manualy everything works, but when I try to autoload via /etc/fstab, after rebootk system stops on error 'Couldn't resolve host `[my host name]`.
[15:19] <luigi69> Line I added to fstab: curlftpfs#[username with @ escaped to %40]:[password]@[host] /media/[my dir] fuse allow_other,uid=0,gid=0 0 0
[15:19] <luigi69> Manual command, that works: curlftpfs [same username]:[same pass]@[same host] /media[same dir]
[15:19] <bazhang> ryannathans, one is internal, the other is usb? pcmcia, or what; please specify which
[15:20] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm trying to get the latest nvidia driver to work under ubuntu 11.10, using x-swat ppa. However after installing the new nvidia-drivers ubuntu won't boot. Anyone that has managed to install and use x-swat nvidia drivers under ubuntu 11.10, could you in such case supply a ditailed step-by-step? Tanks!
[15:20] <ryannathans> bazhang: one is inturnal, one is usb
[15:20] <ryannathans> bazhang: i want the inturnal working
[15:20] <bazhang> ryannathans, yes, please specify which
[15:20] <ryannathans> bazhang: the usb setup will be the same, one is wlan0, one is wlan1
[15:20] <ryannathans> ath9k inturnal - wlan0
[15:20] <artichoku> mornin
[15:22] <mang0> two computers on the lan, both *nix (one mac, one ubuntu). If I run "netsend hello world" from my terminal in ubuntu, will it show a popup on the mac saying "hello world"?
[15:23] <shihan> hi all, anyone know of any documentation anywhere that spills out the options you can send to the pxe boot kernel/initrd combo?
[15:23] <bazhang> ryannathans, please pastebin the output of lspci, lsusb ifconfig
[15:23] <LjL> shihan: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[15:24] <ryannathans> bazhang: how does this help?
[15:24] <shihan> ljl, sadly no.
[15:24] <oCean> ryannathans: does this by any means help you? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-debian-ubuntu-linux-wlan-wpa2-configuration.html
[15:24] <bazhang> ryannathans, I am try ing to assist you. the guide at this link is very informative: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[15:25] <ryannathans> oCean: that didn't work for me, iwpriv says no private ioctls
[15:25] <bazhang> ryannathans, should you not require assistance that is okay, but you say none of the guides work,so some individual assistance seemed in order
[15:25] <artichoku> shihan: http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Hypervisor_Deployment_Guide/sect-Deployment_Guide-Preparing_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization_Hypervisor_installation_media-Deploying_RHEV_Hypervisors_with_PXE_and_tftp.html
[15:26] <ryannathans> bazhang: i hadn't seen that thread
[15:26] <ryannathans> i'm looking now
[15:26] <artichoku> maybe?
[15:26] <AlanBell> mang0: I don't think that is what netsend does really
[15:27] <meerkats> how do I increase the ammount of swap memoery?
[15:27] <mang0> AlanBell: Would it work?
[15:28] <artichoku> meerkats: # edit count= to be the amount of extra swap you want
[15:28] <artichoku> dd if=/dev/zero of=/SWAP.img bs=1M count=128
[15:28] <artichoku> losetup /dev/loop7 /SWAP.img
[15:28] <artichoku> mkswap /dev/loop7
[15:28] <artichoku> swapon /dev/loop7
[15:28] <FloodBot1> artichoku: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:28] <shihan> artichoku, hmm, not really what im after either... im really looking for the parameters that drive the ubuntu (debian) installer... like how you tell it where its installation repo is for example
[15:28] <AlanBell> mang0: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/en/man1/netsend.1.html is what netsend does, it is socket level stuff
[15:28] <artichoku> shihan: ah, sry
[15:28] <Guest95592> Hi what is a good video converter program? need to convert video files to my iPad
[15:29] <bazhang> Guest95592, handbrake
[15:29] <mang0> AlanBell: I see.
[15:29] <AlanBell> mang0: perhaps you want the bonjour instant messenger protocol set up
[15:29] <mang0> bazhang, Guest95592 +1 for handbrake, and ffmpeg.
[15:29] <Guest95592> bazhang, THX WILL TRY IT
[15:29] <mang0> AlanBell: I'll have a google ;)
[15:29] <Guest95592> sorry caps
[15:30] <bazhang> Guest95592, assuming you mean from mkv avi and not ripping from dvd
[15:30] <Guest95592> bazhang, not for dvd yes, but if iam gonna rip a dvd?
[15:30] <bazhang> Guest95592, ogmrip there are setting s for iDevices very nicely done there.
[15:31] <AlanBell> mang0: in empathy, if you set up a "people nearby" account it should see the mac
[15:31] <mang0> AlanBell: Oooh, I'll have a look...
[15:32] <Guest95592> thx
[15:32] <Guest95592> i tryed transmagedon or what it called it dident work
[15:32] <benn> hey
[15:33] <mang0> AlanBell: Would the mac have to do something too?
[15:33] <meerkats> artichoku, cant it be done via gparted?
[15:33] <Guest95592> bazhang, is it possible to hardcode a subtitle file in it?
[15:33] <Guest95592> handbrake?
[15:34] <bazhang> Guest95592, there is a ppa for handbrake
[15:34] <bazhang> jstebbins one
[15:34] <artichoku> meerkats: check this out, http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/08/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu.html i think it will let you accomplish graphically
[15:34] <benn> guys i need help
[15:34] <bazhang> benn, with what
[15:34] <benn> i created a new user and
[15:35] <benn> when i log in new user account i can see my other home directory
[15:35] <bazhang> benn, all one ONE line please
[15:35] <benn> oky
[15:35] <Cameron> Ok A athens
[15:35] <Cameron> *ryannathans
[15:36] <ssta> benn: by default users can see each other's home directories
[15:36] <vvor> chmod -r user:group on the user home
[15:36] <Cameron> I'm plugged into the Ethernet port how do I actually connect?
[15:36] <artichoku> does anyone know if webOS  has gone open-source, yet?
[15:36] <theadmin> vvor: That won't work...
[15:36] <theadmin> artichoku: Offtopic
[15:36] <theadmin> Cameron: sudo ip link set eth0 up && sudo dhcpcd eth0
[15:36] <benn> vvor, i wanto encrypt them so that user wont be able to see each others home dir
[15:36] <artichoku> yessir.... :/
[15:36] <bazhang> Cameron, sudo dhclient eth0
[15:36] <theadmin> Or that.
[15:37] <bazhang> theadmin, thats not correct
[15:37] <ryannathans> DRIVER DID NOT SUPPORT SIOCSIWENCODEEXT -- any ideas?
[15:37] <bazhang> Guest95592, lets keep it in channel please
[15:37] <bazhang> ryannathans, no nee d for all caps please
[15:37] <ryannathans> i just copied and pasted it
[15:38] <AlanBell> mang0: dunno, I don't have one, but the people nearby/bonjour protocol is an apple invention
[15:38] <theadmin> bazhang: How so?
[15:38] <mang0> AlanBell: Sure, don't worry, I'll do a bit of searching. Ty fot your help.
[15:38] <bazhang> theadmin, dhclient not dhcpd
[15:39] <m4k> Any difft between ubuntu base installation and cli installation
[15:39] <Cameron> It doesn't work
[15:39] <theadmin> bazhang: dhcpCd, not dhcpd. dhcpcd is the replacement for dhclient afair
[15:39] <bazhang> m4k,  the minimal, the alternate?
[15:39] <Cameron> Bazhang
[15:39] <bazhang> Cameron, yes
[15:40] <m4k> Which is minimal?
[15:40] <bazhang> m4k, the 12 mb iso
[15:40] <Cameron> It doesn't connect
[15:40] <bazhang> Cameron, what does ifconfig show
[15:41] <bazhang> Cameron, and doe s it say no leases sleeping, or some other message
[15:41] <Cameron> If config shows nothing
[15:41] <m4k> bazhang: which one is minimal base system or cli ?
[15:41] <Cameron> *ifconfig
[15:41] <bazhang> Cameron, nothing? not even lo ?
[15:41] <Calinou> how can I change the default java path on ubuntu 11.10?
[15:42] <theadmin> Calinou: java path? huh?
[15:42] <theadmin> Calinou: You mean the default java binary used?
[15:42] <Calinou> yes
[15:42] <bazhang> m4k, the ncurses based one is the alternate.
[15:42] <Cameron> Dhclient says cannot sta 'etc/samba/dhcp.conf.ne': no such file or directory
[15:42] <Cameron> Bashing
[15:43] <ryannathans> DRIVER DID NOT SUPPORT SIOCSIWENCODEEXT -- any ideas?
[15:43] <bazhang> Cameron, please pastebin lspci
[15:43] <bazhang> ryannathans, yes, lose the caps
[15:43] <Cameron> How?
[15:43] <Cameron> It's right in front of me, I have no access to it
[15:43] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com with the command lspci
[15:43] <Cameron> I'm in the recovery menu
[15:43] <Guest95592> bazhang, Now you're ready to start installing software from the PPA!
[15:43] <Cameron> From boot
[15:43] <Guest95592> and now what?
[15:43] <Guest95592> :P
[15:44] <Cameron> I selected recovery and then root from the grub boot menu bashing
[15:44] <bazhang> Guest95592, did you sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?
[15:44] <Cameron> *bazhang
[15:44] <Guest95592> not upgrade
[15:45] <ryannathans> bazhang: 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adappter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[15:45] <Guest95592> bazhang, nothing to upgrade
[15:45] <ryannathans> bazhang: i'm using wext
[15:45] <Guest95592> what is PPA, is it a package manager or what?
[15:45] <Guest95592> cuz i cant do "sudo apt-get install handbreak"
[15:45] <bazhang> Guest95592, did you enable the ppa? apt-cache search handbrake?
[15:45] <m4k> Any difft btw natty base system and oneiric base system?
[15:46] <ryannathans> bazhang: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[15:46] <ryannathans> bazhang: when i try to connect
[15:46] <Calinou> theadmin: so yeah... how to? I tried to follow the method on the java website, had to revert the edit to bashrc
[15:46] <ryannathans> i'm running sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[15:46] <bazhang> Guest95592, you need to enable the ppa, which is the jstebbins one I referred you to
[15:47] <Cameron> Bazhang?
[15:47] <theadmin> Calinou: Well, "update-alternatives" should be used iirc, but I'm not an Ubuntu user so I can't tell you the exact command(s).
[15:47] <bazhang> Cameron, have you actually booted the system yet?
[15:47] <Guest95592> bazhang, i enabled the ppa yes
[15:48] <Cameron> No, I'm in the covert console
[15:48] <bazhang> Guest95592, using what command please
[15:48] <Guest95592> the one u pasted
[15:48] <Cameron> Because im trying to install the graphics card driver
[15:49] <Guest95592> got it now
[15:49] <Guest95592> :)
[15:49] <cordyceps> I'm using Lubuntu 11 something. How do I add a new program to Menu->Accessories?
[15:49] <Guest95592> the guide on there site wassent enny good ;P
[15:49] <theadmin> cordyceps: You need lxmed
[15:49] <theadmin> !info lxmed
[15:49] <theadmin> Bah
[15:50] <bazhang> Guest95592, on whos e site
[15:50]  * cordyceps on my way
[15:50] <Guest95592> handbrake.fr
[15:50] <m4k> bazhang: any difft between natty base system and oneiric base system?
[15:50] <Cameron> Bazhang???
[15:50] <Guest95592> so its good to have this suport chan for ubuntu xD
[15:50] <bazhang> Cameron, yes. I need the output from lspci. and ifconfig.
[15:51] <Guest95592> <3<3<3
[15:51] <Cameron> The ifconfig outputs nothing...
[15:51] <Calinou> theadmin: got an idea. is it possible to "create" a command so "sunjava6" points to sun's java 6 instead of openjdk?
[15:51] <bazhang> Cameron, so look and type it out, if need be, the single line of the wired card, and the lines for eth0 wlan0 lo and the like
[15:51] <Cameron> What is the command?
[15:52] <bazhang> lspci   ifconfig
[15:52] <cordyceps> So, I need another package just to be able to add "epdfview" to Accessories?
[15:52] <theadmin> Calinou: I guess, just make a script in /usr/local/bin/
[15:52] <AlanBell> Calinou: the alternatives system sorts that out
[15:52] <bazhang> Cameron, what version of ubuntu are you using by the way
[15:52] <Cameron> 11.10 bazhang
[15:52] <Cameron> And how do I scroll up?
[15:52] <Cameron> Is there not just a sing command?
[15:53] <cordyceps> $sing happy_birthday
[15:53] <AlanBell> Calinou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Choosing_the_default_Java_to_use
[15:53] <Cameron> Bazhang
[15:53] <bazhang> Cameron, sing command?
[15:53] <Cameron> *single
[15:53] <Cameron> What do I even need to copy out?
[15:53] <html> hi yalls
[15:54] <bazhang> html hi
[15:54] <Cameron> I just want to connect to the Internet!!!!
[15:55] <the_lord> Hi! I'm trying to set automount on a e-sata drive, it works if after booting up I do mount -a, but it doesn't mount on boot
[15:55] <html> Cameron,  what is going on? and why are you yelling?
[15:55] <the_lord> any ideas on what could be happening?
[15:55] <cordyceps> lol, youre on the internet
[15:56] <sh0t> hi all does anybody of you use snort? I need to make some kind of session sniping but it says: ERROR: /etc/snort/rules/local.rules(8) Unknown rule option: 'resp'. on this rule alert tcp any any -> any any (content: "www.google.com"; msg:"Visualizzazione google"; sid:123123; resp: rst_all;). I think i need to "enable the reaction to packets" but i don't know how to do it since i installed it using apt-get and not from sources...
[15:56] <Cameron> I can't boot my machine HTML, i need to install a driver for my graphics card but first I need to connect to the internet. I brought my pc to the Ethernet port and I'm in the recovery console
[15:56] <Guest95592> does Ipad, iphone plays mp4 videos?
[15:56] <Cameron> Cordceps, I'm on my iPad -.-
[15:56] <bazhang> Guest95592, I would guess yes
[15:56] <html> cordyceps,  as funny as that is ,he may be on a different pc then the other
[15:57] <bazhang> Guest95592, as far as the handbrake output you mean
[15:57] <Cameron> But I can't work out how to connect
[15:57] <Guest95592> mhm
[15:57] <Guest95592> thats what i meen
[15:57] <Guest95592> :)
[15:57] <html> Cameron,  has anyone else helped you ?   and connect your pc to lan
[15:57] <Cameron> HTML, (autocapitalized) how can I connect to the Internet with this Ethernet cable
[15:58] <bazhang> Cameron, which is why ifconfig returning 'nothing at all' does not make sense
[15:58] <Cameron> What? I connected to the broadband box
[15:58] <Cameron> In the second port
[15:58] <cordyceps> How do I add something to Menu->Accessories. Lubuntu 11.10
[15:58] <cordyceps> ?
[15:58] <Cameron> HTML, what do you mean?
[15:59] <AlanBell> Cameron: oh, you moved it, cool, you have just the one ethernet port right?
[15:59]  * cordyceps scrolls Preferences
[15:59] <Cameron> No there's four allanbell
[15:59] <AlanBell> Cameron: 4 on your computer or 4 on your router?
[15:59] <Cameron> And I plugged it in the second one... Maybe I sold try just pluggin it in the original one
[15:59] <chiiiiiz> hello
[15:59] <Cameron> 4 on the router
[15:59] <AlanBell> ok, but one on the computer?
[16:00] <m4k> bazhang: sorry n/w problem. Plz tell any difft between natty base system and oneiric base system?
[16:00] <html> Cameron,  u plug the over sized, monster-lookin phone cord it to the over sized phone port
[16:00] <chiiiiiz> I have installed a second PC , and I am looking for games that work on a LAN? Any suggestion?
[16:00] <cottima> Hello, I was using photorec to rescover data from a failing hdd.  The computer froze at 90% of sectors scanned.  Since I know what the last sector scanned was, could I use photorec or ddrescue and tell either which sector to start at?
[16:00] <AlanBell> Cameron: can you do "ifconfig -a" and tell me what you have in the first column (I am expecting lo and eth0 and wlan0)
[16:01] <mongy> chiiiiiz, offtopic but, hedgewars, nexuiz, openarena etc..
[16:01] <Cameron> Ok
[16:01] <theadmin> chiiiiiz: What kinda games?
[16:01] <bazhang> chiiiiiz, the software center has a selection; there is also the top 25 linux games search term which has a ton more
[16:01] <Cameron> Yeah eth0 and lo
[16:02] <chiiiiiz> any kind, as long as there are not too much blood, these are for kids between 5 and 12
[16:02] <Cameron> Allanbell
[16:02] <Cameron> *a
[16:02] <AlanBell> great, can you do "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[16:02] <Cameron> **alanbell lol
[16:02] <Cameron> Ok
[16:02] <AlanBell> then sudo dhclient eth0
[16:02] <Cameron> Kashcbakslhdbisahdbsihcbsihcbsidhdbd link down
[16:02] <Cameron> Sdfbdihfbewihf link down
[16:03] <Cameron> FabeKjfbadifjbdaihdabdhifb link is not ready
[16:03] <Cameron>  Hibasihdbsaihdbaishdgashiddgaihdg link up
[16:03] <Cameron> Uitfjygfjytfiutui link becomes ready
[16:03] <html> chiiiiiz,  humble indy bundle  ....
[16:03] <Cameron> Now it's just a dashing cursor on a new line
[16:04] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, don't type lots of lines like that or the floodbot will get you. now type ifconfig
[16:04] <Cameron> Without root@cameron:~#
[16:04] <Cameron> Ok
[16:04] <Cameron> Sorry
[16:04] <Cameron> Ok something happened
[16:04] <AlanBell> ifconfig should now show you eth0 being up and hopefully with an ip address, then you can try ping ubuntu.com
[16:05] <Cameron> Unknown host Ubuntu.com
[16:05] <OerHeks> AlanBell, maybe Camaron's networkmanager is not set DHCP automaticly, or "available for all users" is not selected ? (seen this before)
[16:05] <m4k> any difft between natty base system and oneiric base system?
[16:06] <AlanBell> oh well, Cameron in ifconfig under eth0 does it say something like inet addr:192.168.1.2
[16:06] <ikonia> m4k: yes, a lot
[16:06] <ikonia> m4k: are you trying to mix package repositories ?
[16:06] <html> OerHeks, Cameron  agreed
[16:06] <bazhang> m4k, thats a pretty broad question; sure: newer kernel version, update version of applications, was there something in particular you needed
[16:06] <m4k> ikonia: plz give som eg
[16:06] <AlanBell> OerHeks: networkmanager isn't running yet, no desktop
[16:06] <cordyceps> Heh, just realized my new package has already been listed in the menu by magic! Thank yu Lubuntu ;)
[16:06] <ikonia> m4k: why ? what do you want to do/why do you need the info ?
[16:07] <Cameron> Inet6 addr: fe80::52e5:49ff.......
[16:07] <Cameron> No ip address
[16:07] <m4k> ikonia: i want selct bst one.
[16:07] <ikonia> m4k: best in what sense ?
[16:07] <ikonia> m4k: what is your criteria for "best"
[16:08] <Cameron> Sorry
[16:08] <AlanBell> Cameron: oh, no regular IP address :( your router really should have given you one
[16:08] <Cameron> Uh what?
[16:08] <html> !ubuntu bot
[16:08] <ikonia> html: what are you trying to do ?
[16:09] <m4k> ikonia: i am installing ubuntu from scratch. So i want a base system with latest
[16:09] <Cameron> What do I do alanbell? :(
[16:09] <CharminTheMoose> I can't figure out why busybox ash is apparently skipping over the first part of this statement when no string is found, but correctly does the 'else' part, when noaufs is found in /proc/cmdline. http://pastebin.com/KBQP6t2T
[16:09] <ikonia> m4k: ubuntu from scratch ? do you mean you are doing a clean install ?
[16:09] <ikonia> m4k: in which case the later the version the more "current" the package versions will be
[16:09] <ubuntuaddicted> how do I manually load a module after rmmod it?
[16:09] <AlanBell> Cameron: it is just a regular home broadband router right? nothing odd about it?
[16:09] <html> html, ikonia  i was trying to ask the bot questions... in !pm
[16:09] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: you asked this the other day
[16:09] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: modprove
[16:09] <ubuntuaddicted> i forgot, sorry
[16:09] <ikonia> modprobe
[16:10] <ubuntuaddicted> thanks
[16:10] <Cameron> Nope, bt broadband home hub
[16:10] <|Anthony|> how can i restart pointer services?
[16:10] <|Anthony|> i have an intermittent mouse glitch
[16:10] <html> m4k,  me to
[16:10] <AlanBell> oh, you are in the UK too :)
[16:10] <ubuntuaddicted> THANKS
[16:10] <Cameron> Yuh
[16:11] <Calinou> works, thanks
[16:11] <ubuntuaddicted> i need to write a script that rmmod all the module for firewire, and then reloads them.
[16:11] <ubuntuaddicted> i love this channel
[16:11] <html> Cameron,  did you get connected?
[16:11] <Cameron> No.
[16:12] <html> Cameron,  what version are you running and what is your haardware?
[16:12] <Cameron> What hardware?
[16:12] <Cameron> 11.10
[16:13] <cordyceps> lspci?
[16:13] <scoutie> hey guys, how can i setup a ftp server and access my files remotly on ubuntu?
[16:13] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, lets set an ip address manually and see if it can see the hub
[16:13] <CyberDawg> Anyone know of a good site or tutorial that "fully" explains the best way to format and prepare a drive for dual OS's?
[16:13] <cordyceps> lspci -k IIRC gives you a readout of your hdwr
[16:13] <Cameron> Alanbell?
[16:13] <m4k> ikonia: ok, i m selectin oneiric. I have a old system so i want install all light wt packages xfce,... So after this any support will on ubuntu side for doubts
[16:13] <Cameron> Oh sorry
[16:13] <CyberDawg> Oh and Good mornogn!! :)
[16:14] <|Anthony|> seems as though using VMware causes a mouse glitch... The pointer icon *gets confused* in both host and guest os when there is a cursor change. ie. over a text box it keeps switching
[16:14] <Cameron> How?
[16:14] <ikonia> m4k: good luck
[16:14] <AlanBell> Cameron: ifconfig 192.168.1.42  (that is in the range that the hub will hand out, and 42 is a nice number)
[16:14] <|Anthony|> any way to restart mouse services instead of logging out/in
[16:14] <ikonia> |Anthony|: I'm not aware of a "mouse service"
[16:14] <ikonia> |Anthony|: the mouse is just part of the xorg display
[16:14] <CyberDawg> I have a cat that will service your mouse :)
[16:15] <|Anthony|> lol CyberDawg
[16:15] <AlanBell> then ping 192.168.1.254 (which should be the hub)
[16:15] <html> atom 2.1 1gb of ram ubuntu 10.10  is what im running Cameron
[16:15] <Cameron> Alanbell, error fetching interface information: device not found
[16:15] <AlanBell> Cameron: oops, it is ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.42
[16:15] <ikonia> html: why does it matter what you are running ?
[16:15] <m4k> ikonia: thks, and the upgradation is possible?
[16:15] <CyberDawg> Anyone know of a good site or tutorial that "fully" explains the best way to format and prepare a drive for dual OS's?
[16:15] <ikonia> m4k: sure
[16:16] <Cameron> Blah blah blah link becomes ready
[16:16] <ikonia> !dualboot | CyberDawg
[16:16] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, now ping 192.168.1.254, does it reply?
[16:16] <CyberDawg> ikonia, isnt dual boot and dual OS partitions different?
[16:16] <html> ikonia,  i was tryin to get him to point out whats hes hardware , like hes wifi card.
[16:16] <Cameron> Yep
[16:16] <Cameron> Repli alanbell
[16:17] <AlanBell> yay
[16:17] <m4k> ikonia: thk u and ubuntu . Gd bye
[16:17] <ikonia> html: sure, so why are you telling him your cpu and ram ?
[16:17] <ikonia> CyberDawg: sure, have I missunderstood what you want to do ?
[16:17] <|Anthony|> ikonia, how do i reload a mouse cursor theme?
[16:17] <AlanBell> ok, Cameron, now try ping 8.8.8.8
[16:17] <ikonia> |Anthony|: change theme and change back
[16:17] <Cameron> How do I stop the current pinging?
[16:17] <Cameron> It keeps going
[16:17] <AlanBell> ctrl+c
[16:17] <html> ikonia,  as am exsample
[16:18] <CyberDawg> ikonia,  I am pretty new to Linux and partitioning... I want to partition a drive for Windows 7 and Ubutu 11.10 with a common spane for my files
[16:18] <CyberDawg> space*
[16:18] <ikonia> html: put some thought into it, knowing his cpu would be of no use
[16:18] <Cameron> Network is unreachable alanbell
[16:18] <jigo> what acseyly pinging did?
[16:18] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, we need to set your default gateway to be the hub
[16:18] <ikonia> CyberDawg: ok, so do that, 3 partitions, ubuntu/windows/spare
[16:18] <CyberDawg> I was thinking windows/spare/ubuntu
[16:19] <html> ikonia,  right
[16:19] <ikonia> CyberDawg: fine,
[16:19] <Cameron> How?
[16:19] <ikonia> CyberDawg: it really doesn't matter
[16:19] <reliability> hi
[16:19] <AlanBell> Cameron: route add default gw 192.168.1.254 eth0
[16:19] <sh0t> hi all does anybody of you use snort? I need to make some kind of session sniping but it says: ERROR: /etc/snort/rules/local.rules(8) Unknown rule option: 'resp'. on this rule alert tcp any any -> any any (content: "www.google.com"; msg:"Visualizzazione google"; sid:123123; resp: rst_all;). I think i need to "enable the reaction to packets" but i don't know how to do it since i installed it using apt-get and not from sources...
[16:19] <AlanBell> then ping 8.8.8.8 again
[16:19] <CyberDawg> ikonia, more importantly I want to learn the "correct" way to go about it.... a site with those shiny little pics maybe?? :)
[16:19] <Cameron> What?
[16:19] <Cameron> As a command?
[16:20] <ikonia> CyberDawg: there is no correct way, it's how you want to it
[16:20] <reliability> I guess it's possible to install {x,k}ubuntu on an external usb hard drive. what is the easiest way how to do that?
[16:20] <ikonia> "do it"
[16:20] <Cameron> 'route add Defau
[16:20] <CyberDawg> ikonia, Ive been told Windas gets pissed if its not first on the drive
[16:20] <Cameron> Gargh
[16:20] <AlanBell> Cameron: yes, all one command
[16:20] <ikonia> CyberDawg: windows wants a small partition at the start for the install, sure, but the windows installer deals with that
[16:21] <ikonia> CyberDawg: reading the dualboot info I gave you will explain this
[16:21] <Cameron> Reply!!!
[16:21] <CyberDawg> ikonia,  thank you sir for your time :)
[16:21] <html> Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sda: No medium found     what do i do?
[16:21] <ikonia> html: what are you doing ?
[16:21] <i2c> guys whenever I launch ubuntu software center it opens up, and then goes gray and I have to force quit it, within 3 seconds, every time. Any ideas?
[16:21] <AlanBell> Cameron: yay, getting there
[16:22] <reliability> I guess it's possible to install {x,k}ubuntu on an external usb hard drive. what is the easiest way how to do that?
[16:22] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, now do "nano /etc/resolv.conf" which will open an editor
[16:22] <|Anthony|> CyberDawg, be careful when using a common partition between os's for shared storage.
[16:22] <ikonia> reliability: just do an install and select the usb disk in the installer
[16:22] <CyberDawg> |Anthony|, explain more please?
[16:22] <Cameron> Oh, alanbell I just started update :/
[16:22] <Cameron> Cancelled
[16:23] <AlanBell> Cameron: I think you can't ping things by name yet
[16:23] <AlanBell> so I think ping ubuntu.com will fail
[16:23] <Cameron> Ok I am in
[16:23] <Cameron> Nano
[16:23] <html> ikonia,  i am trying to use my sd mico card  from my andriod .. i want to put a linux os  on it.. but its write protected
[16:23] <|Anthony|> CyberDawg, when putting an os to sleep or hibernation, file corruption may occur
[16:23] <ikonia> html: there you go then, it's write protected, you can't do anything with it
[16:23] <|Anthony|> so i've read
[16:23] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, you need to add a line at the end (it might be empty) with "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[16:24] <ikonia> CyberDawg: that is incorrect
[16:24] <reliability> ikonia: the thing is that I want to prepare a bootable installation disk on a 64-bit system for a 32-bit system.
[16:24] <ikonia> CyberDawg: |Anthony| is mistaken
[16:24] <|Anthony|> good
[16:24] <html> ikonia,  what do i do?
[16:24] <Cameron> Ok
[16:24] <AlanBell> Cameron: then ctrl+x to quit and y to save
[16:24] <Cameron> DOne
[16:24] <reliability> shall i just use the usb-creator?
[16:24] <|Anthony|> i thought it was bs too
[16:24] <AlanBell> then you should be able to ping ubuntu.com
[16:24] <ikonia> html: how is it read only
[16:24] <ikonia> |Anthony|: then don't quote it if a.) you don't believe it b.) don't know if it's true
[16:24] <|Anthony|> but sometimes better to er on the side of caution
[16:25] <ikonia> |Anthony|: not if it's nonsense and you don't believe it yourself
[16:25] <ikonia> |Anthony|: giving wrong/miss-leading information is just as unhelpful as not giving a warning for something
[16:25] <Cameron> Unable to write, read only file system
[16:26] <CyberDawg> ikonia, is it best to partition the drive into seperate sections or let the OS's duke it out...
[16:26] <CyberDawg> ???
[16:26] <reliability> Am sorry to ask again: should I use the usb-creator to write to a /hard drive/ in order to create an installation disk?
[16:26] <ikonia> CyberDawg: if you are going to have 2 OS's on the drive, they will have to be on seperate partitions
[16:26] <AlanBell> Cameron: eww, ok you are in the recovery console or something
[16:26] <|Anthony|> but ikonia, please help me understand this. What happens if you have a file open and put the box to sleep, and then instead of booting back into the sleeping os, you boot into an other and open the same file and begin editing?
[16:26] <ikonia> reliability: yes
[16:26] <reliability> ok thx, i will try that
[16:26] <Cameron> Yes alanbell
[16:26] <reliability> ikonia: thx a lot
[16:27] <ikonia> |Anthony|: there maybe a .tmp version of the file
[16:27] <ikonia> |Anthony|: in addition to the existing version
[16:27] <|Anthony|> hmm
[16:27] <CyberDawg> ikonia, correct but its it best to make the drive a single partition, install windos first, then Ubuntu  or use disk manager and chunkk it up first?
[16:27] <cjg> Hi guys, theres 3 things I need my system to do when it boots up, thats 'pon, sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 and sudo firestarter -s' how can I do this please?
[16:27] <ikonia> the original file will not be changed
[16:27] <|Anthony|> that was the main example of why it COULD cause file corruption
[16:27] <ikonia> CyberDawg: again, the dualboot link I gave you earlier will explain this, but windows first is the common approach
[16:28] <CyberDawg> ikonia, thanks again
[16:28] <ikonia> |Anthony|: that is not file corruption
[16:28] <ikonia> |Anthony|: nothing is corrupted
[16:29] <theadmin> cjg: /etc/rc.local
[16:29] <theadmin> cjg: Just add the commands there
[16:29] <Cameron> Alanbell?
[16:30] <AlanBell> Cameron: mount -o remount,rw /
[16:30] <AlanBell> try that, it should make the drive readwrite, then you should be able to add nameserver 8.8.8.8 to the end of /etc/resolv.conf
[16:31] <Cameron> Yeses!
[16:31] <Cameron> Ok... Now to install the graphics card driver
[16:31] <Cameron> How.....?
[16:31] <theadmin> Cameron: Eh, you should probably use the "Hardware Drivers" tool which comes with Ubuntu
[16:32] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, so you can ping things by name now?
[16:32] <CyberDawg> ikonia, the dual boot url you shared is very informative and explains many of my questions regarding how the OS's think... thanks again
[16:32] <cjg> theadmin: so what about the commands that need sudo to run? like sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168 and sudo firestarter -s???
[16:32] <Cameron> Yes
[16:32] <cjg> put sudo in?
[16:32] <ikonia> welcome
[16:32] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, try "apt-get install fglrx"
[16:32] <theadmin> cjg: You can either put it in or not, won't really matter with rc.local, they run as root anyway.
[16:33] <Amadis_Wiki_> papapitufo
[16:33] <m4k> ikonia: one doubt more. Blueman is required to pair devices using hcitool??
[16:34] <Amadis_Wiki_> !
[16:34] <ikonia> blueman is the bluetooth manager interface
[16:34] <cjg> Okay thanks
[16:34] <cjg> now just reboot?
[16:34] <Cameron> No installation candidate alanbell
[16:34] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, do "apt-get update"
[16:34] <AlanBell> then try again
[16:35] <m4k> ikonia: it is not required?
[16:35] <ikonia> if you are using hcitool directly, I don't believe so, but I'm not %100
[16:36] <m4k> ikonia: bluez-utils package is required?
[16:36] <ikonia> yes
[16:37] <Cameron> Ok
[16:38] <cjg> hey one of the commands in /etc/rc.local needs to wait about 10 seconds before it runs how do I do that?
[16:38] <AlanBell> Cameron: ok, if that installed try "fglrxinfo" and it should tell you what card it is hopefully
[16:38] <cjg> firestarter -s
[16:38] <m4k> ikonia: oh, when i try to install bluez-utils in maverick. That showing Not installation cantidate.
[16:39] <ikonia> m4k: you said you where using oneiric. earlier
[16:40] <m4k> ikonia: nw im using maverick. Im try to install oneiric froscratch.
[16:41] <ikonia> m4k: ok, so why are you using maverick if you are trying to do a clean install of oneiric?
[16:41] <Cameron> 50% complete
[16:41] <m4k> from scratch
[16:41] <Cameron> Alanbell
[16:41] <ikonia> m4k: what do you mean "from scratch" ?
[16:42] <a-saint> hey guys why google earth is not on ubuntu repos and is there a guide how to install it
[16:42] <LjL> a-saint: google earth is a proprietary program that cannot be included in the repos. however, the Google Earth installation site has a package for Ubuntu - just install it
[16:43] <a-saint> LjL ok thanks
[16:43] <destryalhmns> can anyone help me register my nick?
[16:43] <LjL> !register > destryalhmns
[16:44] <destryalhmns> Ljl, hi
[16:44] <destryalhmns> ive already tried following the instructions on two different pages
[16:45] <destryalhmns> http://linuxassist.net/irc && http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[16:45] <LjL> destryalhmns: ok, well ask in #freenode, this channel is for Ubuntu. i can try to help you there.
[16:45] <destryalhmns> k
[16:45] <Cameron> Alanbel
[16:46] <Cameron> , unable to open display (null)
[16:46] <Cameron> *alanbell
[16:46] <AlanBell> hmm, ok, so fglrx installed, but fglrx isn't showing useful info?
[16:46] <LjL> !tab | Cameron
[16:46] <Cameron> I k
[16:46] <Cameron> Not on my iPad
[16:47] <LjL> ok
[16:47] <m4k> ikonia: im try to install oneiric base system. Im usin n/w via bluetooth from my phone. Now im using mavick. So i do trial for using hcitool in maverick, that not working . That pair with my mobile. So when i installing oneic i think i will face this prblm in oneiric. So im clearing doubts about it.
[16:47] <AlanBell> so, you have the binary drivers installed, I guess there isn't much for it but to reboot and see if they work (unless anyone else has a suggestion of something else to do whilst connected to the internet)
[16:47] <ikonia> m4k: "base system"
[16:48] <Cameron> Ok
[16:48] <m4k> Yeh ubuntu base system
[16:49] <Cameron> It worked!!!!!!! Thank you soooooo much alanbell!!!!!!!
[16:49] <AlanBell> yay, awesome \o/
[16:49] <scott__> My wifi keeps losing signal every couple mins. I'm using an Acer netbook, w/ ubuntu 11.04
[16:50] <AlanBell> !uk | Cameron
[16:50] <christel> :)
[16:50] <m4k> Ikonia: in maverick that not pair with my phone
[16:51] <Cameron> Heh ok
[16:51] <Cameron> I will once it's up
[16:52] <scott__> i keep losing my wifi signal every couple mins. can someone help figure it out with me?
[16:52] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[16:52] <PrototypeX29A> how can I check, which java version is currently installed and used? it looks like i have the sun-jdk in a dangerously old version
[16:53] <LjL> PrototypeX29A: java -version and javac -version
[16:53] <alexinquest> anyone able to help me with a ubuntu issue, please?
[16:53] <LjL> alexinquest: ask
[16:54] <scott__> google hasn't proven very helpful in this
[16:54] <scott__> i've tried wicd, but i'm not a fan.
[16:54] <AlanBell> scott__: what wifi adapter is it? (some are just not very good)
[16:54] <LjL> alexinquest: ask here in the channel please
[16:55] <alexinquest> ok
[16:55] <alexinquest> I'm trying to change the default boot os back to windows 7 that I installed ubuntu next to
[16:55] <PrototypeX29A> LjL: did that: http://pastebin.com/Nbp0U8uJ but i cannot figure out whether this is the oracle version or not?
[16:56] <m4k> ikonia
[16:56] <PrototypeX29A> LjL: if so, java 1.6.0 update 26 is too old
[16:56] <LjL> PrototypeX29A: looks like Sun Java 6 to me
[16:56] <Quantum_Ion> Use Java 7 the latest and the greatest from Oracle
[16:57] <Quantum_Ion> This shows you how to install Oracle Java 7 from the website ->http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[16:58] <LjL> alexinquest: i think the proper way should be to change the file /etc/default/grub to say, instead of GRUB_DEFAULT=0, GRUB_DEFAULT="name of the Windows item in the menu"
[16:58] <AlanBell> Quantum_Ion: lets see if the packaged stuff works before recommending unpackaged things
[16:58] <epod> I'd rather use openjdk.
[16:58] <firerat> question: can i upgrade to kernel version 3.2 if im using ubuntu 10.04 LTS right now?
[16:58] <PrototypeX29A> Quantum_Ion: so anyone useing Java 6 is just screwed with an unpatched version?
[16:58] <LjL> PrototypeX29A: the recommended Java to use is OpenJDK currently
[16:58] <alexinquest> I was able to edit grub_default to what i need
[16:58] <firerat> in other words, can i update the kernel to 3.2 WITHOUT changing anything else?
[16:59] <gienekart> join #hg
[16:59] <html> ikonia,  oh i didnt see you comment   its read only ...
[16:59] <PrototypeX29A> LjL: openjdk kept crashing, thats why i used sun
[16:59] <LjL> PrototypeX29A: sorta, Sun had a license that allowed distributing Java in the repositories, but not anymore. so Ubuntu can't distribute it.
[16:59] <Quantum_Ion> AlanBell, That packaged stuff is old, especially Java
[16:59] <m4k> Helooo ikonia....
[16:59] <LjL> m4k, maybe ikonia is away at the moment, don't keep highlighting him
[16:59] <PrototypeX29A> LjL: then java 7 isn't up to date either?
[16:59] <Quantum_Ion> PrototypeX29A, Java 6 is old stuff use Java 7 ->http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[16:59] <c32unix> salu
[16:59] <AlanBell> PrototypeX29A: well it is being maintained, try it again, the crashes might be fixed, openjdk7 is available
[16:59] <LjL> PrototypeX29A: i don't even think Java 7 is *in* the repositories, but not sure
[17:00] <html> m4k,  hes been in here for a long time ... i guess heis in the rr
[17:00] <Quantum_Ion> You need to learn how to configure some stuff on your own without being too dependent on the repositories
[17:00] <AlanBell> !info openjdk-7-jdk
[17:00] <PrototypeX29A> i think it would then be better to drop sun's java6 alltogether, instead of leaving the user with an exploitable version
[17:01] <alexinquest> I was able to edit grub_default to what i need, but when i run sudo update-grub I get/etc/default/grub: 18: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html: not found
[17:01] <Quantum_Ion> PrototypeX29A, For a challenge try to install Oracle Java on Ubuntu manually follow this link -> http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[17:01] <AlanBell> PrototypeX29A: whatever we do, someone will think we did the wrong thing
[17:01] <Quantum_Ion> In the ned you will gain a greater understanding of Java 7 on your system
[17:01] <wildc4rd> could I have a recommendation for a functional FTP program please
[17:01] <firerat> anyone know if one can update to kernel 3.2 using ubuntu 10.04 (without changing anything else).. TIA
[17:02] <alexinquest> I'm totally new to ubuntu, so i have no clue why i get this
[17:02] <LjL> Quantum_Ion: you've linked to that three times, i think it's enough
[17:02] <Quantum_Ion> LjL, Who are you God ?
[17:02] <LjL> Quantum_Ion: sorry?
[17:03] <LjL> alexinquest: uuh, what does the URL http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html have to do with anything? O.o
[17:03] <LjL> Quantum_Ion: please keep that kind of remark out of this channel. thanks.
[17:03] <alexinquest> I don't know why it comes up. I visited this website a while ago for some grub 2 tutorial
[17:03] <html> LjL,  it that the bootloader hes updaating?
[17:03] <LjL> html: yeah
[17:03] <alexinquest> how it comes up in terminal i dont know
[17:04] <LjL> alexinquest: pastebin the contents of your /etc/default/grub
[17:04] <juho> hello
[17:04] <PrototypeX29A> AlanBell: "wrong" doesn't nail it. "Security desaster" would be more appropriate
[17:04] <wdonkey> trying to setup a home network between two ubuntu computer, and possibly one under win7 ?
[17:04] <wdonkey> anyone got a clue or a guide ?
[17:04] <PrototypeX29A> AlanBell: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/javacpuoct2011-443431.html
[17:05] <alexinquest> how do i do that?
[17:05] <LjL> PrototypeX29A: so it would be better to pull Java from users who already have it installed, and suddenly have their things stop working? anyway, let's discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want, we shouldn't continue here
[17:05] <LjL> alexinquest: sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit
[17:06] <html> alexinquest,  why are you in the bootloader ? and you total new to this,. thats like messing with your car starter
[17:07] <djones__> hello, im having trouble getting my bluetooth to work with kubuntu 11.10, i didnt even think the laptop had bluetooth, but i keep seeing "stopping bluetooth" when i reboot, in settings it says no bluetooth device found, ill pastebin dmesg | grep Blue* if anyones intrested, the laptop is a dell inspiron e1705, any help is good, thanks
[17:07] <CyberDawg> ikonia, was it you was discussing partitioning to a few minutes ago?
[17:07] <alexinquest> I just want to change the default boot os that's all
[17:09] <oscar76> how do I get the "y" if the key doesnt work?
[17:09] <djones__> http://pastebin.com/KREQsZHX
[17:09] <g105b> What DE would you recommend that is lightweight, can remove all panels, and put a dock and switcher of my choice?
[17:09] <CyberDawg> Is there a knowledgable person here that would care to look at a partition snap shot for me and offer their opinions?
[17:10] <alexinquest> I executed the commands. id you get it?
[17:10] <mang0> oscar76: Copy and paste it from somewhere?
[17:10] <mongy> g105b: xfce
[17:10] <mang0> g105b: xfce
[17:10] <mang0> kde
[17:10] <oscar76> g105b: enlightenment
[17:10] <LjL> alexinquest: no, you need to give me the resulting URL
[17:11] <alexinquest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/813296/
[17:11] <oscar76> mang0: isn't a way to get if by ASCII codes?
[17:11] <mang0> oscar76: Dunno, sorry.
[17:12] <LjL> alexinquest: you removed the initial # from line 18. add it back.
[17:12] <AFD> how can I allow ssh access to my laptop? apt-get install ssh says it is already installed...
[17:12] <LjL> alexinquest: then change line 6 to say what it needs to say ("6" might be correct, but it can change in the future, so you should put the *name* of the menu entry there)
[17:12] <theadmin> AFD: ssh is the client, you want sshd
[17:12] <LjL> AFD: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[17:12] <h00k> AFD: you'll need opensh-server
[17:12] <theadmin> Oh, that's the package name. Okay.
[17:12] <AFD> cheers guys :D
[17:12] <h00k> *ssh. what LjL said.
[17:13] <AFD> LjL: that is apparently already installed! Do I need to turn it on?
[17:14] <theadmin> AFD: I guess you have to configure it then
[17:14] <LjL> AFD: shouldn't need to... what does "/etc/init.d/ssh status" say?
[17:14] <AFD> * Usage: /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart|try-restart|status}
[17:14] <CyberDawg> Is there a knowledgeable person here that would care to look at a partition snap shot for me and offer their opinions?
[17:15] <Stilllife> evening.. don't suppose anyone can help me here with a XBMC Live + LIRC issue (running on Revo 3700) - thank you
[17:15] <AFD> $ /etc/init.d/ssh start
[17:15] <LjL> AFD: uh, did you type what i said correctly? it shouldn't give that
[17:15] <AFD>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd
[17:15] <AFD> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[17:15] <AFD> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[17:15] <FloodBot1> AFD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <LjL> AFD: hold on, googling
[17:15] <h00k> AFD: you may need to start that as root, throw a 'sudo' in there first
[17:15] <mneptok> AFD: did you use sudo or no?
[17:16] <AFD> na, that didn't help
[17:17] <evernoob> AFD: have you opened port 2 in firewall?
[17:17] <evernoob> port 22
[17:17] <alexinquest> what is the command for me to get the actual name of the menu entry?
[17:17] <AFD> evernoob: I hadn't but I'll try that now
[17:17] <mneptok> AFD: how are you trying to connect to this machine?
[17:18] <alexinquest> I mean how can I look it up?
[17:18] <AFD> mneptok: I have another ubuntu laptop I am in the terminal of and it's on the same LAN
[17:18] <mneptok> AFD: did you enable a firewall on either machine?
[17:18] <AFD> I don't think so
[17:18] <LjL> alexinquest: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep menuentry
[17:18] <AFD> I don't see it as a gui in the panel menus
[17:18] <mneptok> AFD: you're using ssh from the commandline?
[17:18] <AFD> yep
[17:19] <aademarco> you have to port forward 22 to your local ip
[17:19] <aademarco> in the router
[17:19] <mneptok> AFD: to what address?
[17:19] <LjL> AFD:  i don't know why this is happening, so it would probably be better if you found out and fixed it in some other way, but i *think* this should generated the required files: sudo ssh-keygen -t dsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key ; sudo ssh-keygen -t rsa -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[17:19] <theadmin> Can anyone using XBMC tell me if it creates a session in lightdm?
[17:19] <evernoob> aademarco: does he need to do that with both boxes on same LAN?
[17:20] <aademarco> not the client
[17:20] <AFD> LjL: that's created them both. thanks
[17:20] <aademarco> if hes on the same lan he can just ssh to the local ip of the server
[17:20] <alexinquest> so all i put there is GRUB_DEFAULT=Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)?
[17:20] <alexinquest> that's my number 6
[17:20] <alexinquest> do I need ""
[17:20] <LjL> alexinquest: yes you need ""
[17:22] <alexinquest> ok. thank you. I will try and reboot now
[17:22] <LjL> alexinquest: give sudo update-grub first
[17:22] <alexinquest> I did it seemed to have worked
[17:22] <Stilllife> anyone here help me installing LIRC on XBMC Live correctly. seem to have come stuck
[17:22] <LjL> alexinquest: ok
[17:23] <rcmaehl> How do I set firestarter to intercept events from both of my internet connectted network devices?
[17:25] <schnuffle> rcmaehl: Do you mean that you have a LAN with two devices connected to your firestarter device and you want to drop the traffic to the internet?
[17:25] <alexinquest> ok, everything is still fine after reboot. Thanks once again, LjL!
[17:25] <sumit_> hi
[17:25] <sumit_> bot
[17:25] <alexinquest> How come that www.dedoimedo... was even there?
[17:25] <AlexandreMBM> sumit_: hi
[17:25] <sumit_> alexandre are you bot
[17:25] <LjL> AlexandreMBM: no idea, you tell me :)
[17:26] <LjL> sumit_: no
[17:26] <LjL> sumit_: the bot here is ubottu
[17:26] <sumit_> ok
[17:26] <rcmaehl> schnuffle: No I have a PC with 2 network cards
[17:26] <sumit_> where is ubottu
[17:26] <rcmaehl> schnuffle: both of which are connected to the internet
[17:26] <LjL> sumit_: in here. what do you need?
[17:26] <sumit_> hi alexandre
[17:26] <sumit_> can we share some hacking knowdlge here
[17:26] <LjL> no
[17:26] <AlexandreMBM> LjL: i find stemp
[17:26] <LjL> this is Ubuntu technical support
[17:26] <bazhang> !ot | sumit_
[17:26] <AlexandreMBM> sumit_: i find stemp
[17:26] <rcmaehl> sumit_: define hacking in PM please
[17:27] <wdonkey> hi everyone, i need direction for setting up a network between my two ubuntu computer, via a wireless router
[17:27] <sumit_> rcmaehl where u from
[17:27] <AlexandreMBM> https://launchpad.net/~stemp
[17:27] <sumit_> alexandre what you mean with stamp
[17:27] <sumit_> stemp
[17:27] <pikaciu> all linux is hacking
[17:27] <LjL> sumit_: for the last time, keep it on topic
[17:27] <rcmaehl> sumit_: USA/The Internet
[17:27] <rcmaehl> and please take this to PM
[17:27] <rcmaehl> as I don't want both of us to be banned
[17:28] <sumit_> ok
[17:28] <AlexandreMBM> sumit_: LjL i want to know as i use https://code.launchpad.net/~liferea/+junk/packaging
[17:29] <LjL> AlexandreMBM: i'm afraid i do not know what you're talking about :(
[17:29] <CyberDawg> Is there a knowledgeable person here that would care to look at a partition snap shot for me and offer their opinions?
[17:29] <rcmaehl> what's the ubuntu OT channel?
[17:29] <rcmaehl> as in a ubuntu related OT channel
[17:29] <LjL> !ot
[17:30] <sumit_> i couldnt find ny hacker group in dis irc
[17:30] <sumit_> can you tel me where should i go
[17:30] <sumit_> and can we sahre programming knowldge here
[17:30] <AlexandreMBM> LjL: sorry. i want to make package for https://launchpad.net/~liferea/+archive/ppa
[17:30] <LjL> sumit_: i've already given you all the information needed to find something, if there is something. please ask #freenode or something, we can't help you with that here.
[17:30] <rcmaehl> sumit_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:31] <LjL> AlexandreMBM: "make package"? that address *already* gives you a package, no?
[17:31] <AlexandreMBM> LjL: 1.6, but i want 1.8
[17:32] <lokodomain> hey
[17:32] <AlexandreMBM> LjL: i have compiled it yesterday
[17:32] <LjL> AlexandreMBM: i don't know about packaging, but perhaps you could try asking in #ubuntu-packaging
[17:32] <lokodomain> anyone know how to join java channel ##java?
[17:32] <LjL> !register > lokodomain
[17:33] <AlexandreMBM> LjL: thank you. I am going...
[17:33] <lokodomain> @LjL + ubottu .. thanks
[17:34] <firerat> whats the command to enable eth0 again?
[17:34] <firerat> ifconfig only displays lo
[17:35] <aademarco> you need to configure the eth0 interface, i think ifconfig eth0 dhcp up
[17:35] <kylebt> ifconfig -a ?
[17:35] <aademarco> run as sudo
[17:35] <plustax> im running gnome3 right now on 11.10....what the heck are these awesome effects and how do I get them?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YPnEtvIiF0&feature=related
[17:35] <firerat> crud, i get eth0: no such device
[17:36] <aademarco> there are networking scripts you can run, /etc/network or something simlar should be the directory
[17:36] <bazhang> firerat, what about ifup command
[17:36] <theadmin> plustax: Compiz stuff
[17:36] <pikaciu> firerat: what lspci says ?
[17:36] <bazhang> firerat, sudo ifup eth0
[17:37] <firerat> sudo ifup eth0 > ignoring unknown interface eth0
[17:37] <plustax> theadmin, oh hi there!
[17:38] <plustax> theadmin, long time no talk. Think you could help me get that stuff working with my gnome3?
[17:38] <firerat> lspci lists my ethernet controller but under capabilities : access denied
[17:38] <diciocciob> Hello, I am trying to setup PyCharm on ubuntu but it required JDK1.6 to be installed. There is no package for this im assuming?
[17:38] <bazhang> firerat, whats the nic
[17:38] <pikaciu> firerat: run lspci as sudo
[17:38] <theadmin> plustax: I don't use gnome3 but I guess there's no big deal, install compiz and ccsm and make compiz start with your gnome3...
[17:38] <LjL> !java | diciocciob
[17:38] <firerat> dreaded RTL8111E
[17:38] <theadmin> I'm away for now
[17:38] <recon69_lap> firerat, use 'sudo' if access denied
[17:38] <bazhang> pikaciu, no need for sudo with that
[17:39] <diciocciob> For Ubuntu I'm not exactly sure which file on their website to download for easy install.
[17:39] <LjL> diciocciob: i'd try with OpenJDK, which *is* in the repositories, first.
[17:39] <diciocciob> yeah it says not supported
[17:40] <firerat> sudo lspci -v works fine, it lists my ethernet controller
[17:40] <diciocciob> http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/download/
[17:40] <diciocciob> linux tab
[17:40] <bazhang> firerat, there was someone just here with that nic, let me try to find the solution link for that
[17:40] <firerat> okay i'm using 10.04 if it matters, i've been trying to get internet working for an hour or so. I just now rebooted from installing the drivers from the realtek.com web site.
[17:41] <plustax> theadmin, how do I make it run with gnome3 like you said? I have both things downloaded
[17:41] <LjL> diciocciob: i guess follow this part https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6 then
[17:41] <diciocciob> alright
[17:41] <diciocciob> it also says I need gnome or kde desktop
[17:41] <diciocciob> i have to switch my desktop too... uggghhh
[17:42] <firerat> followed instructions here on post #1 to the tee (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411&highlight=rt+8111)
[17:42] <pikaciu> firerat: did you do the main installation while connected ?
[17:42] <LjL> diciocciob: sounds like a bit of a crappy program with such specific requirements ;P
[17:42] <firerat> no i had the cable disconnected
[17:42] <diciocciob> naa its godlike for coding django/python
[17:42] <diciocciob> but guess its more windows based
[17:42] <firerat> thanks for the help.
[17:42] <diciocciob> lol makes no sense
[17:42] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79346/how-can-i-install-the-realtek-rtl8111e-version-8168-driver firerat
[17:42] <diciocciob> but thanks for your help guys
[17:42] <diciocciob> I'm going to try and find a better IDE for django
[17:43] <Mikhael> Hi! i have a problem with my ubuntu :) can anyone help me? :)
[17:43] <firerat> ok bazhang let me give that a whirl
[17:43] <DerpyHoovy> Hey, does anyone know if Ubuntu supports GPT booting without UEFI?
[17:43] <schnuffle> diciocciob: I use gedit and I'm fine with it, for debugging you can use firebug anf the django debug toolbar
[17:45] <LjL> DerpyHoovy: not sure but isn't that something that the BIOS should support, rather than Ubuntu itself?
[17:45] <DerpyHoovy> LjL: I thought it was more of an OS's choice to support it. Wikipedia says it supports it.
[17:45] <Mikhael> Anybody knows how to get the Raling Wifi adapter enabled under ubuntu? _
[17:46] <DerpyHoovy> Windows doesn't support it without UEFI.
[17:46] <Mikhael> Ralink*
[17:46] <wildc4rd> is there a good GUI to manage iptables?
[17:47] <Slart> wildc4rd: I think there is a gui for ufw gufw or something like that
[17:47] <Slart> !info gufw
[17:47] <Slart> !ufw
[17:47] <theadmin> wildc4rd: gufw is a GUI frontend to ufw, which is in turn a CLI frontend to iptables. Might do what you want.
[17:47] <Mikhael> GUYS I NEED HELP!
[17:47] <akharris> whats the problem
[17:48] <bazhang> Mikhael, with what
[17:48] <plustax> mikhael whats your issue?
[17:48] <wildc4rd> righto, I'll give it a go, thanks
[17:48] <theadmin> Mikhael: DON'T SCREAM. Ask the real question.
[17:48] <akharris> i guess there is no problem....
[17:49] <Mikhael> Im not screaming, im sitting quietly in my room .. Ok .. so.. i've got HP ProBook 4330s with Ralink wifi adapter.. and i've installed the new 64bit ubuntu :) aand it does not work.. :)
[17:49] <DerpyHoovy> Mikhael: What's the error?
[17:49] <akharris> what "doesnt work"
[17:49] <bazhang> Mikhael, which exact ralink
[17:49] <firerat> ok bazhang, i just ran sudo reboot, lets see where this goes
[17:50] <Mikhael> it is the Ralink RT5390.. and i did some research on the forums and so on and i've tried to install some drivers but it just got worse .. :)
[17:51] <Mikhael> i can provide you with the link with the tutorial about how to get it work.. but it did not worked for me :)
[17:51] <firerat> no dice, still no eth0, i must of borked something whilst updating the driver
[17:51] <akharris> Okay guys, i have a System76 Gazelle, my audio isnt working unless i use output jacks into my stereo, what do? 11.10 everything is updated
[17:52] <pikaciu> firerat: it's a desktop or laptop ?
[17:52] <firerat> desktop
[17:52] <firerat> brand new
[17:52] <pikaciu> firerat: try to remove and reinstall
[17:52] <firerat> will do.
[17:52] <firerat> last question before i go
[17:53] <firerat> do u know of any linux distros that use kernel 3.2 out of the box?
[17:53] <firerat> i thought arch linux did but apparently its 3.0.3 or something like tht
[17:53] <popey> alan@mbp:~$ uname -a
[17:53] <popey> Linux mbp 3.2.0-9-generic #16-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 13 20:46:38 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:53] <popey> ^^^ Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS) (currently in development)
[17:53] <LjL> firerat: that's a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic - anyway, i'd personally wait for Precise, it'll be out in April
[17:54] <firerat> something to hold me till April, I know
[17:54] <popey> I agree with LjL, 12.04 is looking great
[17:54] <popey> try it now ☺
[17:54] <urlin2u> Mikhael, did you make a thread asking for help?
[17:54] <firerat> even though it says alpha
[17:54] <firerat> i've always stayed away from alphas since ive been on pcs
[17:54] <firerat> haha
[17:54] <akharris> Guys, what is a good way to see wether i can install OS X on my computer.
[17:54] <theadmin> firerat: Arch has 3.2, but you need to upgrade it
[17:54] <theadmin> firerat: pacman -Syyu
[17:54] <Mikhael> no because i saw so many threads about it already which does not helped so i came here :)
[17:54] <popey> akharris: thats somewhat offtopic
[17:55] <akharris> yeah i know.... sorry
[17:55] <popey> firerat: 12.04 is pretty stable at the moment, YMMV
[17:55] <urlin2u> akharris, this a hackintosh?
[17:55] <Mikhael> but if you think that it could help i can try to do so anyway :)
[17:55] <firerat> im asking because 3.2 has corrected the issue with the RTL8111E chip
[17:55] <akharris> Hackintosh, yes, it has all componets of a macbook pro except a different mobo
[17:56] <theadmin> firerat: Get the latest daily build of Arch. http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/
[17:56] <bazhang> theadmin, ?
[17:56] <urlin2u> akharris, we can't help there or with apple in general, unless it is a ubuntu install on a apple computer
[17:56] <akharris> alright its cool
[17:56] <theadmin> bazhang: He is looking for a distro with 3.2... Sorry, I did go offtopic here >.< Whatever, I'll shut up on this
[17:56] <theadmin> bazhang: Just did suggest
[17:57] <urlin2u> akharris, sorry. :D
[17:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=71aee5b8e77f776e3f6f2fbff3e30dc0&p=11072495&postcount=9 Mikhael
[17:57] <firerat> no, i appreciate it, i know rules are rules, and well i dont even know the rules, only my own personal boundaries ;P
[17:57] <firerat> but im def going to precise pangolin (what a name! lol) once it releases
[17:57] <Mikhael> thanks bazhang, i will give it a try :)
[17:58] <akharris> Can i just upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, i dont have a usb or dvd on me
[17:58] <ikonia> akharris: 12.04 is not released yet
[17:58] <akharris> the pre-release of course
[17:58] <Mikhael> one more thing: in what way can i clean my ubuntu from all of the wifi drivers installed to perform this instalation and not to mess up anything? :)
[17:58] <popey> firerat: you could install 11.10 and install the upstream 12.04 kernel from the kernel team
[17:59] <ikonia> akharris: the info is in the channel #ubuntu+1 check the topic
[17:59] <popey> firerat: if you absolutely must have 3.2
[17:59] <akharris> kk
[18:01] <firerat> only because 3.2 has corrected the issue with the RTL8111E chip, i could go that route, and then find out how to remove unity?? i dislike those side icons
[18:01] <popey> firerat: if you dont want/like unity then I'd personally use a different derivative or distro.
[18:02] <__Alex_> Whenever 2 or more programs output audio, Alsa crashes. I have a crappy USB SoundCard. Can it be fixed? I get this problem with any distro of Linux, and with any version of the Kernel. But it works fine in FreeBSD.
[18:02] <Daulity_> hi
[18:02] <Daulity_> can i ask ubuntu server related question here or does ubuntu server have own irc?
[18:03] <Mikhael> ok, thank you guys, you were helpful :) have a nice year :)
[18:03] <theadmin> Daulity_: #ubuntu-server but you can ask here too
[18:05] <go87654> hello. i cant start gajim. can anybody help me please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/813344/
[18:09] <sln45> Is there a terminal command to unhide unity without showing item numbers?
[18:10] <html> how do i take write protection off of my sd mico card?
[18:10] <syddraf> Does anyone know of a way to set the Accept-Encoding options on wget?
[18:10] <html> syddraf,  what?
[18:10] <evernoob> I've just installed 11.10 64bit to existing LUKS LVM for /, and separate LUKS volume for /home. On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. How can I fix this?
[18:11] <syddraf> html: When it sends the HTTP request I'm getting gzip'd data back. I need to force it to clear text only.
[18:11] <marshall> list
[18:11] <marshall> !list
[18:12] <urlin2u> html, this a camera card or something like that?
[18:13] <soulf> Hi, after installing KDE my walpaper in gnome doesn't load and gtk3 doesn't load the theme that's configured to be used. Also, whenever I log out to change sessions the kdm doesn't load and I just end up rebooting. Did someone encounter similar problems after installing kde? What should I do?
[18:13] <html> syddraf,  so you want your broswer just to show the text, and nothin else?
[18:13] <syddraf> html: I'm using wget, not a browser.
[18:13] <html> !wget | html
[18:13] <Genn97> !Ciao
[18:14] <Genn97> List!
[18:14] <Fuchs> Genn97: wrong network
[18:14] <pangolin> !list > Genn97
[18:14] <html> Genn97,  lol
[18:14] <Fuchs> !list > Fuchs
[18:14] <pangolin> html: what was so funny about that?
[18:14] <Genn97> List!
[18:14] <SoulShadow> !nounity
[18:15] <pangolin> !it | Genn97
[18:15] <urlin2u> html, no switch on the card, is it a micro card or a standard sdhc?
[18:15] <html> urlin2u,  pm?
[18:17] <U23> !list > U23
[18:17] <LjL> !msg the bot
[18:18] <ashutosh_> hi
[18:18] <ashutosh_> any one listinenig
[18:18] <ashutosh_> hello
[18:18] <urlin2u> html, nah the channel help is best.
[18:19] <schnuffle> !anyone | ashutosh_
[18:19] <bazhang> ashutosh_, what is your support question please
[18:19] <stahlie> is it possible to access to windows 7 drive from Ubuntu 11.10?   I installed Ubuntu via wubi.
[18:20] <ashutosh_> any one know about jquery
[18:20] <ashutosh_> hey
[18:20] <aeon-ltd> stahlie: how did you use wubi? if you installed inside windows i don't think it's possible
[18:20] <vvor> stahlie: yes
[18:20] <bazhang> stahlie, checked the wubi guide yet?
[18:20] <DerpyHoovy> ashutosh_: i know a little
[18:20] <aeon-ltd> ashutosh_: not here, find a javascript channel
[18:20] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, thats the only way to install wubi
[18:20] <syddraf> The guys on #jquery might.
[18:20] <stahlie> aeon-ltd: I'm not sure what you mean .. i'm able to dual boot
[18:21] <aeon-ltd> stahlie: when you boot do you see windows bootloader?
[18:21] <__Alex_> stahlie: Can you type "ls -a /dev/sd*;ls -a /dev/hd*", and put it to a pastebin?
[18:21] <html> ahh! not again!!
[18:21] <stahlie> aeon-ltd: yes I have dual boot with windows and ubuntu
[18:21] <soulf> Hi, after installing KDE my walpaper in gnome doesn't load and gtk3 doesn't load the theme that's configured to be used. Also, whenever I log out to change sessions the kdm doesn't load and I just end up rebooting. Did someone encounter similar problems after installing kde? What should I do?
[18:21] <stahlie> _alex oka
[18:22] <aeon-ltd> stahlie: googled now, whhat do you know, http://wubi.sourceforge.net/faq.php 4th point down
[18:24] <Protonentomate> quit
[18:25] <SoulShadow> so..just a personal opinion
[18:26] <SoulShadow> canonical needs to really fix up unity for 12.04 if they want people to use the LTS
[18:26] <DerpyHoovy> Dang. error: out of disk, grub rescue>
[18:26] <html> how do i take write protection off of my sd mico card?
[18:26] <Raymond_> i have noticed that ubuntu 11.04 does not show which dependencies to install for Wicd. is there a method to find out
[18:26] <stahlie> LOL...I just simply "cd /host" and viola i'm in my windows disk
[18:26] <DerpyHoovy> ls /boot shows error: out of disk
[18:26] <DerpyHoovy> any ideas?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> SoulShadow: you can use xfce in Precise and it is lts..
[18:26] <DerpyHoovy> insmod normal = same error
[18:27] <SoulShadow> ActionParsnip: i mean the default ubuntu LTS
[18:27] <SoulShadow> just, straight out of the box
[18:27] <randomuser> I have a fresh VM of ubuntu11.10, and I seem to be unable to access TTY switching functionality - it switches, then acts like a ctl+alt+backspace, closing the DE session and returning me to the login manager. What's going on here?
[18:27] <SoulShadow> unity is much improved in 11.10 but still ultra slow compared to most other DE's
[18:27] <LjL> !ot
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> SoulShadow: then install xubuntu or kubuntu. No unity there.
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Soulshadow: unity isn't a de
[18:28] <html> SoulShadow,  really , how is it better ?
[18:28] <SoulShadow> it's faster, more intuitive, but it's still slower
[18:28] <LjL> please remember this channel is for Ubuntu *support*, take the other discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:28] <SoulShadow> okay ActionParsnip, shell.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Soulshadow. You can run lxde and use unity if you want.
[18:29] <html> ok
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> SoulShadow: tried unity2d. Should be faster
[18:30] <SoulShadow> i have a really old c2d in this laptop w/ integrated video, right now i've resigned to cinnamon
[18:31] <html> randomuser,  it looks as if its doing what you want but doing it a different way , it works aright ?
[18:31] <paulus68> How do you create a user that has the same powers as a root account?
[18:31] <LjL> paulus68: you don't. use sudo instead
[18:31] <francoiscote> hey guys, web developper here. Spent the last 10 years working with OSX, considering switching to Ubuntu (on same MacbookPro machine). Any tips/recommendation ?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: sudo adduser name; sudo usermod -a -G admin name
[18:32] <aeon-ltd> francoiscote: look up everything, compatibility varies from mac to mac
[18:32] <Zungo> hello, is safe to change grub-pc to grub2??
[18:32] <Artox_> Hi all!
[18:32] <html> SoulShadow,  lets go #ubuntu-offtopic  so we can talk, they warned us already
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> francoiscote: suggestions in what way?
[18:32] <randomuser> html, no, it doesnt work, the system is functionally available as is
[18:32] <francoiscote> aeon-ltd: allright, thanks. Already check this and everything seems compatible.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: yes. I would do that
[18:33] <aeon-ltd> francoiscote: but why switch? on a mbp it could easily just run a vm
[18:33] <francoiscote> ActionParsnip: … gotchas. if anyone did the same switch.
[18:33] <Artox_> I have a low volume. Help please!
[18:33] <randomuser> html, s/available/unavailable.  Unusable
[18:33] <Artox_> IN alsamixer all high
[18:33] <francoiscote> i will try ubuntu as a VM to start, but eventually would like to boot in Ubuntu
[18:33] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: I presume that username and name behind admin are the same ?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> francoiscote: also why buy mac overpriced hardware then install ubuntu..
[18:34] <html> randomuser,  sorry , i dont have the answer, but wait long enough and u might.... but i can still help find it
[18:34] <francoiscote> ActionParsnip: a macbook pro is what I currently have.
[18:34] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: also, why im not able to see grub screen?
[18:34] <Artox_> anyone can help? please
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: yes. That will create the user and add it to the admin group so it can use gk/sudo
[18:35] <Artox_> (((
[18:35] <Artox_> bad
[18:35] <html> Artox_,  !ask
[18:35] <html>  !ask
[18:35] <Artox_> I ask question
[18:35] <Raymond_> is there a good network manager other than what 11.04 comes with
[18:35] <Artox_> How?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: you can do it from a chroot from liveCD. Omgubuntu have a guide called: sticking it to grub
[18:36] <randomuser> html, so to summaraze: No functioning window manager, desktop interaction is not possible.  SSH access is disabled by default, remote access is not possible.  Switching TTYs is not functioning, local console access is not possible.
[18:36] <Artox_> how to increase the volume?
[18:36] <Gregor_The_Miner> Raymond_: wicd
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Raymond_: wicd and wifi-radar are 2 i can think of quickly
[18:36] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: thx
[18:36] <Artox_> PLEASE!??!?!
[18:37] <Artox_> HEEELP!?!?!?!?
[18:37] <LjL> !please | Artox_
[18:37] <Artox_> ubottu: STFU PLEASE!
[18:38] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: hmm, help? i see Out of Range message from monitor itself when grub shows up.., that what i noticed, screen reappears with kernel loading
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Raymond_: wicd is DE independant and is a bit more flexible than network manager but cannot manage 3G last I checked
[18:38] <Zungo> !help
[18:38] <Zungo> !op
[18:38] <ikonia> Zungo: stop
[18:38] <LjL> Zungo: ?
[18:38] <html> Artox_,  if on a laptop "fn " the what ever the blue icon says,,,  or find your voulme icon go to properties and the you just look there
[18:38] <ikonia> Zungo: you'vfe just seen the problem was removed
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: what GPU do you use?
[18:38] <Zungo> oh
[18:38] <Raymond_> actionparsnip, by DE do you mean dependency
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Raymond_: desktop environment. You will probably be using gnome
[18:40] <hexacode> has anyone here used tortoise svn under wine?
[18:40] <no_gravity> Hello! Im thinking about installing ubuntu into an encrypted partition. Can ubuntus installer do that?
[18:40] <DerpyHoovy> hexacode: why would you need to? regular svn works just fine.
[18:40] <LjL> hexacode: because life isn't complicated enough as it is? :P
[18:40] <html> randomuser,  i hope u have a good back up cause it look like that there may need be used as a last resort , by the sounds of it
[18:40] <Raymond_> actionparsnip, i have noticed that ubuntu 11.04 does not show which dependencies to install for Wicd in software center. i have the .deb files downloaded, is there a method to find out
[18:41] <randomuser> html, uhh... what?
[18:41] <hexacode> umm ive never used svn at all so im new to the whole thing...how would i go about using it under ubuntu?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> hexacode: there are svn apps native to ubuntu, why do you need a windows based one?
[18:41] <LjL> hexacode: first, sudo apt-get install subversion
[18:41] <hexacode> ok thanks.
[18:41] <hexacode> im noob at svn
[18:41] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: i use and have ati raedon xpress 200 chipset
[18:41] <hexacode> completely
[18:41] <schnuffle> Raymond_:  dpkg -I <package>
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Raymond_: install it in terminal and it will say
[18:41] <urlin2u> no_gravity, you can install ubuntu and use its encryption inside another sounds like a dream.
[18:41] <Raymond_> actionparsnip, thankyou
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | zungo
[18:42] <txomon> hi, I have problems with grub, it says error: no such partition
[18:42] <no_gravity> urlin2u: i dont understand what you mean
[18:42] <randomuser> html, a little tinkering showed the DE is working ... just not effectively, even in 2D.  I'm running updates and expecting improvement
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> hexacode: try searching software centre for apps before reaching for wine
[18:42] <urlin2u> txomon, you have some lead up to this history, details
[18:43] <txomon> urlin2u, just installed from netboot, and says that, never booted it correctly
[18:43] <html> randomuser,
[18:43] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: is not kernel, it's grub itself with wat i have troubles with
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: hold SHIFT at boot. It uses text which any chip can shos
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Show
[18:45] <saleh> plz i need help , i need to change the permission of my ntfs partions take a look : http://www7.0zz0.com/2012/01/22/18/688753871.png
[18:45] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: ok, when disk boots, SHIFT?
[18:45] <randomuser> html, yes?
[18:45] <urlin2u> no_gravity, ubuntu has its own encryption. To be honest if you have to ask you should probably not be doing this.
[18:45] <txomon> so, anyone knows how to do something with the grub rescue> terminal ?
[18:45] <mozammel> how to update firefox ? at ubuntu upadate center there not showing that firefox upadate aviable, but my firefox is 7.1.
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: hold it from POST. Its all on that page....
[18:45] <urlin2u> txomon, netboot like unetbootin?
[18:45] <leah> Question: On my sidebar in my home folder it used to show a link to my gateway windows PC that's on another partition.  That's gone now, where do I look to find that again?
[18:45] <html> randomuser, i try to keep all the custom things that make my os its little power house , in a seperate folder ..
[18:46] <html>  so you cant do anything?
[18:46] <txomon> urlin2u, unetbootin is now a netboot installer
[18:46] <urlin2u> !grub > txomon
[18:46] <randomuser> html, why are you telling me this?
[18:46] <txomon> I used pxe
[18:46] <no_gravity> urlin2u: i did not understand your sentence. i understand encryption.
[18:46] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: hmm?
[18:46] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: isn't the boot menu?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> txomon: boot livecd.and use the 'sticking it to grub' guide on omgubuntu
[18:46] <no_gravity> urlin2u: what i wonder is if ubuntus installer can install into an encrypted partition.
[18:47] <txomon> ActionParsnip, no cds available
[18:47] <saleh> plz i need help , i need to change the permission of my ntfs partions take a look : http://www7.0zz0.com/2012/01/22/18/688753871.png
[18:47] <Gregor_The_Miner> mozammel: It will update after the first boot. I think. If not, try putting yourself on a different update channel.
[18:47] <urlin2u> no_gravity, probably not you would have to unlock it to do that.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> txomon: usb? Sdcard?
[18:47] <txomon> ActionParsnip, netboot
[18:47] <no_gravity> urlin2u: "unlock"?
[18:47] <txomon> through PXE
[18:48] <urlin2u> no_gravity, so what do you have on a encrypted anything, a lock you need a key.
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: as soon as the system starts to power hold it. Its the default in Grub2
[18:49] <saleh> urlin2u
[18:49] <no_gravity> urlin2u: again, i dont understand you.
[18:49] <html> mozammel,  you must do it manually at firefox site ,,, just keep in mind that is fox7 + there not the support for the addons yet
[18:49] <urlin2u> no_gravity, what is the encryption on the HD
[18:49] <paulus68> to be certain when I use crontab to execute a command the last 0 is every sunday right?
[18:49] <saleh> plz i need help , i need to change the permission of my ntfs partions take a look : http://www7.0zz0.com/2012/01/22/18/688753871.png
[18:49] <LjL> no_gravity: Ubuntu's installer can make an encrypted *home* partition automatically, but it cannot encrypt the *whole* thing
[18:49] <no_gravity> urlin2u: there is no encryption now. i want to set up an encrypted system
[18:49] <zarbula> VLC or XMBC the best media players for Linux, right Ubuntu?
[18:50] <LjL> no_gravity: s/partition/directory/
[18:50] <LjL> !best | zarbula
[18:50] <no_gravity> LjL: i want to encrypt the whole partition. i saw an option in debians installer to do it, so i thought ubuntu might have it too.
[18:50] <zarbula> LjL: thank you
[18:51] <urlin2u> no_gravity, ah your wording is confusing "Im thinking about installing ubuntu into an encrypted partition. Can ubuntus installer do that?" this sounds like a encrypted parttion already, yes ubuntu can encrypt on a install.
[18:51] <evernoob> no_gravity: I just installed ancrypted system from alternate installer 64bit
[18:51] <saleh> plz i need help , i need to change the permission of my ntfs partions take a look : http://www7.0zz0.com/2012/01/22/18/688753871.png
[18:51] <paulus68> will this command in crontab run each sunday at 2 am? 0 2 * * 1 /home/backup.sh
[18:51] <saleh> any one help
[18:51] <LjL> no_gravity: there are several howtos if you google for « encrypted root site:help.ubuntu.com » but i have no clue which of the several ones is sane...
[18:51] <no_gravity> ok, thank you all! will try it.
[18:51] <html> randomuser,  u said you cant use most of ur computer , so what little i can do is nothin just telling you if u find something you like that works then set a rememder if you need to redo yourpc
[18:52] <randomuser> ...
[18:53] <html> randomuser,  its been a long since i used that stuff but sorry
[18:53] <saleh> anyone see this ?!!!! >>>> plz i need help , i need to change the permission of my ntfs partions take a look : http://www7.0zz0.com/2012/01/22/18/688753871.png
[18:53] <randomuser> some friendly advice in offering support, html: 1. Assess the reported problem 2. Assess your understanding of the problem 3. Assess  the user's understanding of the problem. 4. Get more information.  5. If you can, offer support
[18:53] <randomuser> you haven
[18:54] <paulus68> !patience|saleh
[18:54] <randomuser> you havent said anything remotely pertinent to my question
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> saleh: what options did you use to mount the partitions?
[18:55] <html> randomuser, fine the i will help you blindly and gladly , reform your question into somethin i can google
[18:55] <saleh> this happend after i installed virtual box  :(
[18:56] <hexacode> can a user be in multiple groups in ubuntu?
[18:56] <LjL> html, i'm sure if he could, he'd google it himself. it's not his job to make his question something you can google :\
[18:56] <randomuser> html, it's ok if you don't have an answer.
[18:56] <schnuffle> hexacode: YES
[18:56] <vvor> saleh: what is the Q.
[18:57] <hexacode> schnuffle: ok thanks. ill go figure it out
[18:57] <schnuffle> hexacode: usermod -G <groups> <user>
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> saleh: so you are accessing the host partitions from an ubuntu install which resides in a virtualbox?
[18:57] <randomuser> html, if you are skimming google results, you are NOT providing effective support - try to keep the signal/noise ratio in the channel down
[18:57] <hexacode> thanks schnuffle
[18:58] <hexacode> schnuffle:  whats the command to lookup once ive done the adding
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> hexacode: sure. The first user is in many by default. You can see them by running: groups
[18:58] <hexacode> thanks
[18:59] <saleh> after installed virtual box ,,,,,icant copy or paste files in my ntfs partions  (new ubuntu user) ? how can i changer the permissions to default ?
[18:59] <html> LjL,  its not my job to chicken type 21 question  though i do try to learn the new stuff  from the channel , im a 10.04 and a 10.10 guy, ... though most of what i know will work in most cases, tty  was kinda hard for me to fingure out just for fun
[19:00] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: will this cronjob run at 2 am each sunday or do I need to change the 1 into a 0? 0 2 * * 1 /home/backup.sh
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs | saleh
[19:00] <randomuser> html, you press CTL+ALT+F(n). Thats all there is to figure out.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: do you have a desktop UI?
[19:00] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: no this is for my server?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: gotcha
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> !cron
[19:01] <Gaming4JC> Does Ubuntu have anything even close to Adobe After-Effects in the repos? just curious
[19:01] <s5fs> I'm trying to create a bootable USB drive from within 11.04 using unetbootin but no USB drives are listed. All help appreciated.
[19:02] <AlanBell> hi randomuser, you are running in a VM right? virtualbox or vmware?
[19:02] <Gaming4JC> Last time I tried Cinefx I was laughing at it's lameness ... :|
[19:02] <llutz> schnuffle: " usermod -G <groups> <user>" will remove the user from all groups not listed in this command, bad for sudo-users
[19:02] <randomuser> hey, AlanBell , I'm running ubuntu as a KVM guest, testing out SPICE performance.
[19:03] <llutz> schnuffle: better to suggest "usermod -aG" or simply "adduser group user"
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: looks good to me. Be sure the user you cron as has execute access
[19:03] <html> randomuser,  when i was  a nob the docuntmention was so good that i can just barely read a doc and i was up'an'runnin   .... in not going to stop me ,,,, i find the hardest  answers ... i said i cant help cuz you made it sound as if the de / pc was in bad shape,,,
[19:03] <jeremiah_> how do you run something in xubuntu?
[19:03] <AlanBell> oh, fun :), not tried spice, but I do use KVM on a server I have
[19:03] <s5fs> jeremiah_: in what respect?
[19:04] <mozammel> just tryed to install Linuxqq but give me this error ''
[19:04] <mozammel> dpkg: error processing /home/mozammel/Downloads/linuxqq_v1.0.2-beta1_i386.deb (--install):
[19:04] <mozammel>  parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control' near line 7 package 'linuxqq':
[19:04] <mozammel>  error in Version string 'v1.0.2-beta1': version number does not start with digit
[19:04] <jeremiah_> what do you mean?
[19:04] <aeon-ltd> jeremiah_: run what?
[19:04] <Gaming4JC> !pastebin | mozammel
[19:04] <s5fs> jeremiah_: you asked how to run something in xubuntu. What do you wanna run, like launch a GUI app or a console app or..?
[19:04] <mozammel> what to do?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> s5fs: eject the device in cli. Unplug it then reinsert it
[19:04] <jeremiah_> like java, flash, minecraft
[19:04] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: thats why I wanted to created another user with admin rights. the sh script is now in /home/adminuser/backup.sh that should do it right?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> !info linuxqq
[19:05] <xangua> jeremiah_: you can install adoble flash plugin and openjdk from repositories
[19:05] <randomuser> html, its ok - i have a niche concern; and fwiw, i'm not a 'nob', although i can understand why you might think so
[19:05] <jeremiah_> where is that?
[19:06] <xangua> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras ; will install them and other codecs/font/etc
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> mozammel: where did you get the deb? Its not in the repos.
[19:06] <s5fs> ActionParsnip: ejecting and reinserting doesn't do anything. does it need to be unmounted or something?
[19:06] <jeremiah_> i always get a error
[19:06] <jeremiah_> like not found
[19:06] <jeremiah_> or does not exsist
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> s5fs: is the device healthy
[19:07] <}[O_____O]{> is there a known issue re: applications not showing when typing their command names into the unity search box?
[19:07] <s5fs> ActionParsnip: yeah, it's a known good drive. it mounts just fine, etc.
[19:07] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: thats why I wanted to created another user with admin rights. the sh script is now in /home/someadminuser/backup.sh that should do it right?
[19:08] <jeremiah_> E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:08] <s5fs> ActionParsnip: i'm just looking to make the thumbdrive bootable via iso, any cli utils for this instead?
[19:08] <jeremiah_> that is what i got
[19:08] <leah> anybody got a minute to answer a noob question?
[19:08] <html> randomuser,  i know ur not by the way you speak , im not sure if your deaf or ur doing for someone else... but anyway you still have a good point  though it may be a niche but it is an idea worth lookin in to
[19:08] <mozammel> very sorry
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: if you cron as the user it will run with user rights. You will need to cron as root if it needs that access
[19:08] <jeremiah_> hello?
[19:08] <schnuffle> paulus68: you know that you set the user in the cronjob or are you using the users crontab?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Leah: just ask :-)
[19:09] <html> how do i take write protection off of my sd mico card? 8gb
[19:09] <jeremiah_> why won't you answer?!
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Html: is there a switch on it. Some have that
[19:10] <paulus68> schnuffle: I just launched from my newly created admin user crontab -e that should be enough right?
[19:10] <html> ActionParsnip,  on a "mico" sd ????
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: patience young grasshopper
[19:10] <schnuffle> jeremiah_: have you multiverse repos activated?
[19:10] <leah> Question: I have a duel boot PC, Windows 7 and Ubuntu.  When I first installed it, my windows partition would show up on the side panel of my home folder as "gateway" now it's gone.  How do I get it to show up again?
[19:10] <xangua> jeremiah_: what ubuntu version do you use¿
[19:10] <jeremiah_> i guess i do need to learn that...
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Html: what filesystem does it use?
[19:10] <html> ActionParsnip,  lol
[19:10] <jeremiah_> uh 8.10
[19:11] <jeremiah_> yes i know it is out of date!
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:11] <jeremiah_> just have not went to school to get it yet. (i download there.)
[19:11] <html> jeremiah_,  please put your question in one line
[19:11] <paulus68> schnuffle: can you comment on my last remark please
[19:11] <s5fs> jeremiah_: it's free to upgrade, highly recommended if you want support from others. hard to support a desktop OS 2+ years old.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: there are also zero updates or repos for it. Nor is it supported in any way
[19:12] <speedex> hey
[19:12] <jeremiah_> i don't have internet like that i have a bandwidth
[19:12] <speedex> can someone help me with xubuntu?
[19:12] <Promot> fr
[19:12] <aeon-ltd> speedex: just ask
[19:12] <schnuffle> paulus68: slipped away before a saw it, yes thats okay, but what is your aim? BAckup for one user or the whole system?
[19:12] <Promot> channel fr
[19:12] <pangolin> Promot: #ubuntu-fr
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: intrepid is dead in every way
[19:13] <paulus68> schnuffle: whole system
[19:13] <speedex> where can I find drivers
[19:13] <speedex> which one is instaled
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> speedex: drivers for what?
[19:13] <jeremiah_> no it is alive on my pc!
[19:13] <leah> Question: I have a duel boot PC, Windows 7 and Ubuntu.  When I first installed it, my windows partition would show up on the side panel of my home folder as "gateway" now it's gone.  How do I get it to show up again?
[19:13] <Valequeso> is here Nixie Pixel? :D
[19:13] <speedex> graphic and sound card
[19:13] <schnuffle> paulus68: then I suggest you use a cron job instead: /etc/cron.d .There you can define under which user the job runs
[19:14] <html> ActionParsnip,  i thin fat32
[19:14] <Valequeso> she has the most hottest open source boobs in all the internet :D
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: it will run but there are no updates and its offtopic here. I suggest you upgrade
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Html: may need to manually mount
[19:15] <schnuffle> paulus68:  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto under advanced Crontab
[19:15] <urlin2u> Valequeso, those sort of comments will get you banned
[19:15] <s5fs> jeremiah_: you can order CDs and DVDs directly from the ubuntu.com website, they're quite cheap and come in bundles of 5. get a friend to pitch in and they can have a disk too.
[19:15] <aeon-ltd> speedex: in one line, it'll be easier to read if you want people to help
[19:15] <s5fs> jeremiah_: additionally, you could look to see if there is a local user group, they would be able to supply you with media
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> speedex: what gpu do you have?
[19:15] <jeremiah_> i live in the middle of noware
[19:16] <soulf> Hi, since I installed kde the gtk config seems to be messed up (i.e. when starting a unity or a gnome-shell session the wallpaper doesn't load and the fallback theme is loaded)... how can I fix this?
[19:16] <speedex> w8
[19:16] <jeremiah_> i will get it when i get to a nice fiber internet connection.
[19:16] <html> ActionParsnip,  your like "superubuntu bot" but human
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Speedex: 'w8' isn't anything
[19:16] <s5fs> jeremiah_: i'd suggest ordering the disks, an upgrade is pretty much mandatory
[19:16] <speedex> wait please
[19:16] <leah> Question: I have a duel boot PC, Windows 7 and Ubuntu.  When I first installed it, my windows partition would show up on the side panel of my home folder as "gateway" now it's gone.  How do I get it to show up again?
[19:16] <debd> nick debdj
[19:16] <jeremiah_> i am downloading now.
[19:17] <s5fs> leah: i'm not familiar with that. what did the "gateway" allow you to do, see files in your windows partition?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Html: use the OS long and you learn stuff. I'm sure your windows talents would impress new users
[19:17] <urlin2u> leah, you can still boot windows correct?
[19:17] <jeremiah_> i am actualy getting Debian right now. someone recommended it
[19:18] <leah> s5fs, yeah it's a gateway computer so, basicly when i opened that link i could see my windows files
[19:18] <speedex> i think its radeon 9500
[19:18] <leah> urlin2u, yes
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Leah: if you run: sudo fdisk -l   do you see the NTFS partition?
[19:18] <schnuffle> jeremiah_:  ubuntu is based on debian.
[19:18] <dssdsdsd> selam
[19:18] <dssdsdsd> [TR]hi
[19:18] <jeremiah_> i know!
[19:18] <Gregor_The_Miner> jeremiah_ Debian testing, right? Stable is a bit outdated.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> !ati | speedex
[19:18] <dssdsdsd> naber ?
[19:18] <speedex> 9550 and it has core by ATI
[19:18] <dssdsdsd> [TR]whats up?
[19:18] <html> ActionParsnip,  yeah ,,  if  any i could not scramble idea/words... i could help better
[19:18] <urlin2u> leah, have you added iwndows to the fstab for auto mounting?
[19:18] <dssdsdsd> ne yapıyorsunuz?
[19:18] <dssdsdsd> [TR]What are you doing?
[19:18] <FloodBot1> dssdsdsd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <pangolin> dssdsdsd: please turn that off
[19:19] <Zungo> ActionParsnip: hey, im still using grub-pc, shift works too?
[19:19] <jeremiah_> someone tells me to get it, someone tells me not.
[19:19] <leah> urlin2u, it's been working up until today for about a month.  do i need to add something new to make it work again?
[19:19] <Zungo> ActionParsnip
[19:19] <leah> ActionParsnip, checking...
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: debian doesn't hold your hand as much as ubuntu. It decent though
[19:19] <jeremiah_> so what should i get for a pentium 2 460mhz
[19:19] <leah> ActionParsnip, yes
[19:19] <schnuffle> jeremiah_: it's personal choice. I  run most common distros on some server and most of them work fine
[19:19] <urlin2u> leah, I would run a chkdsk on windows, if there is some file errors linux will not read it at times.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Zungo: i believe its ESC then.
[19:20] <Zungo> oh
[19:20] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, the lightest desktop you can find
[19:20] <Zungo> imma restart...
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Leah: if its a
[19:20] <jeremiah_> and that is?
[19:20] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, probably lxde
[19:20] <debd> whats the pkg I need for libsdl?
[19:20] <leah> urlin2u, okay, i'll give it a try
[19:20] <jeremiah_> i hope it is not like dsl...
[19:21] <html> !lxdm
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Leah: an internal partition I'd add an entry for it in /etc/fstab so it mounts at boot
[19:21] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, its a bit like the look of XP
[19:21] <schnuffle> debdj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/lucid/libsdl-image1.2
[19:21] <jeremiah_> is there a lxde chatroom?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: use a web image search, you can see it
[19:21] <html> jeremiah_,  if you want a windows look theres theme packsfor linux
[19:21] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, its probably dead
[19:22] <leah> ActionParsnip, it's not an internal partition.  i mean like i didn't install it through windows (is that what you meant?)
[19:22] <jeremiah_> now what is dead?!
[19:22] <paulus68> schnuffle: thx
[19:22] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, #lxde has 23 users
[19:22] <Gentoo64> doubt any are even there
[19:22] <ridin> hi, when i check my process list i have 25 ruby processes how to kill them all i one command?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: you  can also try lubuntu. It uses lxde by default
[19:22] <jeremiah_> oh.
[19:22] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, yeah lubuntu... thats what i meant by lxde
[19:22] <html> ActionParsnip,  my sd card is not even showing up now!  rrr  bad card ...
[19:23] <schnuffle> ridin: killall ruby
[19:23] <speedex> and can someone help with audacity device settings?
[19:23] <LukeNukem> is it true that Mac osx lion is worlds best os
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Leah: is the ntfs partition on the same drive as ubuntu, inside your pc?
[19:23] <ridin> no killall ruby not works
[19:23] <Gentoo64> speedex, what about them?
[19:23] <ikonia> LukeNukem: please don't troll here, it will not end well
[19:23] <LukeNukem> im not trolling fffs
[19:23] <Gentoo64> LukeNukem, no its not true
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Ridin: killall ruby
[19:23] <leah> ActionParsnip, no
[19:23] <schnuffle> ridin: then paste the process list
[19:23] <LukeNukem> good
[19:23] <LukeNukem> :)
[19:23] <ikonia> LukeNukem: then join ##apple for mac discussion
[19:24] <leah> ActionParsnip, i dont' think so, if i'm reading this right
[19:24] <ikonia> LukeNukem: you're in #ubuntu, ubuntu support discussion only
[19:24] <AlanBell> randomuser: so with a KVM virtual desktop and connecting to it with the virt-manager thing there is a menu item to send keys, and from there I can send ctrl+alt+f1 and the desktop flips to a tty
[19:24] <LukeNukem> ikonia, i figured there would not be a apple channel because they aren't supporters of free software
[19:24] <LukeNukem> and so on
[19:24] <ridin> how to check proccess list i`m using kill -9 <tab>
[19:24] <ikonia> LukeNukem: you figured wrong then,
[19:24] <schnuffle> ridin: ps aux
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Leah: one physical drive, holding windows and ubuntu..
[19:24] <jeremiah_> which lubuntu should i get?
[19:24] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, the latest one..
[19:24] <speedex> gentoo64, there is (hw 0:0) , (hw0:1) (hw0:2) which one is front out
[19:25] <Gentoo64> either 32 or 64 biy
[19:25] <Gentoo64> t
[19:25] <AlanBell> randomuser: and ctrl+alt+f7 option flips back. dunno if that is what you are doing and if the spice stuff interfers with it
[19:25] <leah> ActionParsnip, yes one physical drive, with multiple partitions
[19:25] <jeremiah_> desktop, alternate or minimal
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: 32bit will work on any 86 cpu
[19:25] <Gentoo64> speedex, normally hw 0 1 i think, there should be a "default" option
[19:25] <schnuffle> jeremiah_: what do you mean with which version?
[19:25] <jeremiah_> and yes of course the latest one
[19:25] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, use the alternate
[19:25] <Gentoo64> thatl work on low ram
[19:25] <Gentoo64> and its just as easy
[19:25] <schnuffle> jeremiah_: less then 4GB  RAM 32Bit more 64Bit
[19:25] <jeremiah_> ok
[19:26] <Gentoo64> schnuffle, his cpu is 400mhz i doubt its 64 bit :)
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[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Leah: then its an internal partition. Its on the drive in your pc. Not a removable storage
[19:26] <schnuffle> Gentoo64: okay missed that one :)
[19:26] <Gentoo64> speedex, idk what sound card you use..
[19:26] <Cameron> I need to manage my partition of the device Ubuntu is installed on. I've tried using a live USB but the GUI doesn't load because it hasn't got the graphics card driver installed. How can I do it?
[19:26] <Gentoo64> speedex, default works for me
[19:26] <Cameron> *partitions
[19:26] <ridin> Okej, i would like to kill all proceses with: ruby muzang.rb > http://pastebin.com/nrY9zrj8
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> schnuffle: pae gives access to 64gb ram. So is still an option
[19:26] <Cameron> Alanbell are you still there?
[19:26] <jeremiah_> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/ now what?
[19:26] <schnuffle> Cameron: use a console based tool or get a live system that supports your graphic
[19:27] <speedex> gentoo64 but I have 3 soundcards
[19:27] <Datalink> oh I'm so gonna get laughed at, has anyone here built Second Life for 64 bit 11.10?
[19:27] <Gentoo64> speedex, if default works, use that
[19:27] <schnuffle> jeremiah_:  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/11.10/release/lubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[19:27] <speedex> but which one do it use? :D
[19:27] <Gentoo64> speedex, in terminal do aplay -l
[19:27] <Gentoo64> thatl list what is what
[19:27] <speedex> ok thanks
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: get lubuntu-11.10-alternate-i 386.iso
[19:28] <schnuffle> ActionParsnip: of course it is but is there any benefit from using PAE instead of 64Bit?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Opps, the desktop. Not alterate
[19:28] <jeremiah_> ok getting it
[19:28] <Gentoo64> alternate is dedktop isnti t?
[19:28] <Gentoo64> just different installer for low ram
[19:29] <jeremiah_> how big is it?
[19:29] <ridin> ok, :P how to kill proces by command name: ruby muzang.rb
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> schnuffle: 32bit may be required for some stuff which only gives 32bit support. 99.9% of the time if you have more than 3Gb ram the 64bit is a wiser choice
[19:30] <bazhang> Gentoo64, its the ncurses based install only also known as the debian-installed, different from the live cd which lets you test drive without installing, and the choice to install
[19:30] <schnuffle> ActionParsnip: thanx, that corresponds to my knowledge
[19:30] <bazhang> err installer
[19:30] <jeremiah_> its friday!
[19:30] <Gentoo64> bazhang, yes, but as his cpu is 400mhz i take it he has next to no ram...
[19:30] <Datalink> ActionParsnip, given how much headache Second Life has given me in the past week, I am probably that 1%...
[19:30] <laseck_> potrzebuje waszej pomocy z zainstalowaniem borderlands na ubuntu
[19:30] <ridin> super
[19:30] <Raymond_> 11.04 wireless not working, i have network manager does not work where i am at. so i am trying to get wicd to work but cant figure out what dependenceies i need for python urwid and wicd curses. i also have b43fwcutter installed and broadcom-stu-common installed.also have the broadcom-wl-etc.tar on hdd and extracted to the desktop.
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: it still installs a desktop OS. Just isn't pretty like users expect
[19:30] <randomuser> AlanBell, CTL+ALT+anything behaves the same: flashes login prompt, shows a flash of console syslog output, switches to TTY with login manager, appears to have forcibly exited active DE session.  Using spice just means that i'm using a qxl device for graphics, otherwise the interface is the same as VNC
[19:30] <Gentoo64> bazhang, in other words itll be much faster
[19:31] <bazhang> Gentoo64, indeed. for low ram
[19:31] <Gentoo64> i got a 500mhz laptop other week with 180mb ram lol
[19:31] <randomuser> AlanBell, reading up on upstart, as appendations to grub as systemd targets or numerical runlevels appear to be ignored
[19:31] <northernen> Is there a good tool available for converting wmw files to H.264?
[19:31] <bazhang> northernen, handbrake to m4v
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> Datalink: it is still a perfectly fine architecture. I need it too as my dual core intel is 32bit
[19:32] <bazhang> northernen, assuming you mean wmv
[19:32] <schnuffle> Raymond_:  dependencies for wicd-curses: python, python-urwid, wicd-daemon
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Northern: there are plenty of mencoder examples online for that..
[19:33] <schnuffle> Raymond_: so your real problem is that wifi is not working?
[19:33] <Datalink> ActionParsnip, yeah, I'm on a 64 bit processor, and... Second Life has no 64 bit compile (been on their bugtracker for over a year) as a result only basic features work
[19:34] <northernen> bazhang, can't be m4v. Moving it to my Android phone.
[19:34] <m4v> mmmh?
[19:35] <htmlinprogress> is amd apu supported?
[19:35] <Raymond_> schnuffle, i have wicd-daemon installed, is the 'python' file a deb?
[19:35] <schnuffle> !python | Raymond_
[19:35] <reliability> hi
[19:35] <reliability> After updating to 3.0.0.15, the internal screen of my hp elitebook 2540p keeps being blank. Strangly, the external screen works. The problem only exists for 3.0.0.15, not for 3.0.0.14. Does someone know what could cause this kind of problem and/or how to solve it?
[19:35] <schnuffle> Raymond_: you can install it just with apt.get install python and it should already be installed
[19:36] <Raymond_> schnuffle, i dont even know if i have the driver installed correctly. i am using 11.04
[19:36] <Raymond_> or if its the right one to install
[19:36] <schnuffle> Raymond_: I think you should first check if you have a correct driver for your wifi
[19:37] <schnuffle> Raymond_: do you know the chip of your wifi?
[19:37] <htmlinprogress> reliability,  hi
[19:37] <reliability> htmlinprogress: hi
[19:37] <schnuffle> Raymond_: if not lspci | grep Wireless should show ot
[19:39] <Raymond_> schnuffle, i have broadcom-stu-common_etc.deb file installed but it also gave a source .deb that i did not install
[19:39] <Raymond_> schnuffle, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=broadcom&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[19:39] <schnuffle> Raymond_: before installing a drive you should check if it fits your hardware can you paste the output?
[19:40] <Will_Trew> Hey. Can anyone help? When I try and run Ubuntu my whole screen goes blank but my computer continues to run so I think Ubuntu is running, I just can't see anything.
[19:40] <schnuffle> Raymond_: sure you have that hardware
[19:40] <Raymond_> schnuffle, yes i can paste the out put, i am on XP right now so i need to boot in to 11.04
[19:41] <janisozaur> I have a program that connects over bluetooth/l2cap and it requires superuser permissions. how can i grant permission to bind() on such a socket to regular user?
[19:41] <schnuffle> Raymond_: okay do taht to be sure we are doing the correct thing
[19:41] <recon69_lap> created a usb boot disk from 11.4 to boot into 10.4 and get not a com32r image when i try to use it, any ideas
[19:42] <mongy> recon69_lap: an old bug..  I think if you type live or boot it will boot
[19:43] <Raymond_> schnuffle, i had 10.04 working with....broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.   alll i have done with this file is extract it to the desktop
[19:43] <schnuffle> recon69_lap: howm did you ctreate it?
[19:43] <mcgrete> Hello.  I just installed FreeNX and am using NXClient.  I am able to connect from within my local network.  However, when I attempt from outside of my network I fail to do so.
[19:43] <mcgrete> Feeback is:
[19:43] <mcgrete> NX> 2030 NXSSM running with pid: 7632NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command
[19:43] <mcgrete> NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files
[19:43] <mcgrete> NX> 285 Setting the preferred NX options
[19:43] <FloodBot1> mcgrete: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <mcgrete> NX> 200 Connected to address: myIPaddress on port: 22
[19:43] <mega2> ihave ubuntu server 10.04 how do i make a user admin
[19:43] <LjL> mega2: sudo adduser username admin
[19:43] <schnuffle> Raymond_: can you paste: lscpi | grep Wireless
[19:43] <recon69_lap> schnuffle: using start up disk creator
[19:44] <schnuffle> recon69_lap: hm, I know that unetbootin sometimes fails creating the usb stick
[19:45] <Hexaditidom> I am having problems connecting to the internet. Ubuntu 10.04 recognizes my wireless adapter and can scan for networks, but I can't connect to my own network.
[19:45] <reliability> apparently, the issue has already been filed.
[19:45] <Hexaditidom> It uses WPA, but I uninstalled wpa_supplicant thinking it was a problem. When I try to make the latest wpa_supplicant, it lists a hundred errors. Hopefully I can connect without it.
[19:46] <Guest87705> hi i got a problem, when i play video on ubuntu 10.04.3 it laggs,
[19:46] <recon69_lap> schnuffle: typing in live seems to have worked, thx mongy
[19:47] <sKew^_-> its a hassle to watch movies when it laggs in films :S
[19:47] <jeremiah_> how would i run minecraft in xubuntu?
[19:47] <pingec> Is it possible to get a 10000x10000 panning resolution on ubuntu?
[19:47] <recon69_lap> Guest87705, have you tried instaling more codex or using a different player
[19:47] <dury> Guest87705: which application you use to open your videos
[19:47] <mongy> recon69_lap: an old bug..  I think if you type live or boot it will boot
[19:48] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, yes i have tryed to use other players the laggs aswell :S
[19:48] <recon69_lap> jeremiah_ ; open the minecraft jar file using a java virtual machine
[19:48] <dury> Guest87705: try vlc
[19:49] <jeremiah_> turds. no java.
[19:49] <sKew^_-> dury, it laggs in VLC aswell
[19:49] <mintman> sKew^_-: how old is the computer
[19:49] <sKew^_-> its a new one
[19:49] <sKew^_-> i7 1.g ghz
[19:50] <sKew^_-> hd radeon 5650
[19:50] <sKew^_-> 1gb
[19:50] <steeve> ciao a tutti
[19:50] <sKew^_-> 8gb ddr3 ram
[19:50] <sKew^_-> 240gb ssd
[19:50] <LjL> !enter
[19:50] <FloodBot1> sKew^_-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:50] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-:  have you gotten more codex then, that might fix it
[19:50] <steeve> ragazzi una domanda..
[19:50] <LjL> !it | steeve
[19:50] <AlanBell> jeremiah_: minecraft runs fine using openJDK
[19:50] <steeve> su quale server posso scricare degli ebook??
[19:50] <dury> sKew^_-: codec problem then
[19:51] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, what codex do you recomand?
[19:51] <jeremiah_> how do i get that?
[19:51] <mintman> sKew^_-: wow and you have lag. mine is only a 2 ghz about 2 years old and 2 gigs of ran no lag ever...
[19:51] <recon69_lap> jeremiah_:  try installing java then ;0
[19:51] <LjL> !java > jeremiah_
[19:51] <steeve> sorry... :)
[19:51] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: just get the ugly-codex pack or whaterver it's called
[19:52] <mcgrete> Hello.  Anyone have experience with setting up FreeNX and NXClient for external connection?
[19:52] <steeve> where i can find a ebbok??
[19:52] <theadmin> steeve: That's offtopic here, try another channel. #defocus maybe. Or ##hardware
[19:52] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[19:53] <dury> anyone know a good scanner for ubuntu
[19:53] <sKew^_-> its installed
[19:53] <jeremiah_> which should i get? (java)
[19:53] <AlanBell> pingec: you can have lots of workspaces, but if you had that kind of resolution on one workspace it would be too big for your graphic card max texture size
[19:53] <urlin2u> sKew^_-, hat desktop you running?
[19:53] <theadmin> !av | DURgod
[19:53] <urlin2u> what*
[19:53] <theadmin> Oops
[19:53] <theadmin> !av | dury
[19:53] <theadmin> DURgod: Sorry, tab fail
[19:53] <LjL> steeve: Project Gutenberg has free ebooks in English, Progetto Manuzio has some in Italian. those are all out-of-copyright books. copyrighted books are not legal to get for free, i'm afraid.
[19:54] <AlanBell> jeremiah_: openJDK 7 from the repositories
[19:54] <LjL> steeve: anyway, this is not an Ubuntu question so come in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[19:55] <dury> theadmin: need a scanner device for ubuntu not antivirus
[19:55] <jeremiah_> could not find jdk
[19:55] <txomon> anyone here knows something about the mini iso's rescue mode?
[19:55] <theadmin> dury: Oh, sorry.
[19:55] <jeremiah_> that is the error i got
[19:55] <LjL> !scanner | dury
[19:55] <sKew^_-> urlin2u, Gnome ubuntu luci 10.04.3
[19:55] <sKew^_-> amd 64bit
[19:56] <urlin2u> sKew^_-, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras      this will load codecs and other needed stuff.
[19:56] <AlanBell> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[19:56] <jeremiah_> i get a error for that to
[19:57] <pingec> AlanBell so there is no way I could open a webpage in 10000x10000 to make a screenshot
[19:57] <sKew^_-> urlin2u, do i need to reboot? relog?
[19:57] <jeremiah_> E: Couldn't find package openjdk-7-jre
[19:58] <jeremiah_> that is the error
[19:58] <Raymond_> schnuffle, how do you want me to send the print out
[19:58] <urlin2u> sKew^_-, no it will be installed, not sure if the problems is lack of codecs but rthat is the standrad pack of them.
[19:58] <LjL> jeremiah_: do you have the Universe repository enabled? pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:58] <AlanBell> pingec err, that sounds like a bad idea, however you might be able to script geko or webkit or something to render the html to an image
[19:58] <mega2> how do i get my server to restart
[19:58] <schnuffle> Raymond_: use pastebinit
[19:58] <sKew^_-> kk, o think its problem whit my grapich card :S
[19:58] <pingec> thanks for the idea
[19:58] <sKew^_-> cuz it still laggs, :S
[19:58] <LjL> jeremiah_: also which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[19:59] <jeremiah_> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[19:59] <carbon_> I  have a silly question.  In a conf file.  Is a ";" the same as a comment   "#"         ?
[19:59] <jeremiah_> was the error for that one.
[19:59] <LjL> jeremiah_: open it with "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[19:59] <AlanBell> jeremiah_: are you the one using an antique version of Ubuntu?
[19:59] <LjL> carbon_: it depends on the config file. usually not.
[19:59] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: did you try install property driver for your gfx card
[20:00] <jeremiah_> yes
[20:00] <carbon_> LjL :   it's the smb.cong file
[20:00] <carbon_> f
[20:00] <Raymond_> schnuffle,  pastebin.com/uq0znfAe
[20:00] <sKew^_-> i activated the grapich card driver from "hardware drivers"
[20:00] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, after you were informed of eol yesterday you don't mention your running one shame on you.
[20:00] <sholsapp> Anyone know what package I need to install to get a copy of '/usr/include/asm-generic/cmpxchg.h'?
[20:01] <jeremiah_> and that is...
[20:01] <sholsapp> I installed 'gcc's and 'gcc-multilib'
[20:01] <Mister_Argent> Hello! I've got a HP Tx2 running Ubuntu 11.10. Anyone here know how i can make Ubuntu recognize that the hardware screen rotation button exists?
[20:01] <AlanBell> !info openjdk-6-jre intrepid
[20:01] <Raymond_> is there a way to download the 11.04 update in windows and install in ubuntu?
[20:01] <Raymond_> updates*
[20:02] <LjL> carbon_: in that one yes, it appears ; and # are both comments
[20:02] <theadmin> sholsapp: apt-file might help
[20:02] <reliability> what is the proper way to set the default kernel to boot from (3.0.0-15 currently has an issue)?
[20:02] <theadmin> !find /usr/include/asm-generic/cmpxchg.h
[20:02] <carbon_> LjL:  Many thanks
[20:02] <schnuffle> Raymond_: to get your hardware working under oneiric: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source  and then sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[20:03] <kim_> Hi folks, is it possible to make shotwell single click at all? I heard you can delete the double click event?
[20:03] <theadmin> Hm.
[20:03] <micahcavaleri> Hey, all.  What is the best tool for overclocking my processor (Pentium M using Lucid Lynx)?
[20:03] <schnuffle> Raymond_: isn't it possible to use the wired connection?
[20:03] <sholsapp> theadmin I'm not finding that app
[20:03] <Guest34690> hi, how to play all types of songs and movies in kubuntu?
[20:03] <theadmin> sholsapp: sudo apt-get install apt-file && apt-file FILENAME
[20:03] <Raymond_> schnuffle, at motel only wireless aval.
[20:03] <theadmin> Guest34690: VLC
[20:03] <sholsapp> k thanks, hold on while i try =)
[20:04] <Guest79018> hola
[20:04] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, well, i activated the driver from "hardware drivers" in ubuntu i got an ati radeon hd 5650 mobile 1gb grapichcard
[20:04] <LjL> Guest34690: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing_Restricted_Formats
[20:04] <Cameron> I have download a gparted live USB and am in the command line because my graphics card is not supported, how do I partition?
[20:04] <Guest79018> hello
[20:04] <micahcavaleri> What is the best tool for overclocking my processor (Pentium M using Lucid Lynx)?
[20:04] <Guest79018> hello
[20:04] <Mister_Argent> 'ello.
[20:04] <LjL> micahcavaleri: your BIOS, if it supports overclocking
[20:04] <AlanBell> Guest79018: hi, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:04] <Guest79018> ola
[20:04] <Guest34690> theadmin,  dont i need some codecs or  packages ?
[20:04] <schnuffle> Raymond_: you can download all the package and install them manually but you'll all the dependencies as well
[20:04] <kim_> Hi folks, is it possible to make shotwell single click at all? I heard you can delete the double click event?
[20:05] <theadmin> Guest34690: VLC plays everything
[20:05] <schnuffle> you'll need
[20:05] <Cameron> Alanbell, can you help please?
[20:05] <micahcavaleri> LjL: my BIOS doesn't support overclocking.  Is there another tool you recommend?
[20:05] <Guest79018> yo hablo en otro idioma
[20:05] <AlanBell> hi Cameron, whats up?
[20:05] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper aren't loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:05] <nancy---> theadmin,  ok
[20:05] <LjL> micahcavaleri: i'm not entirely sure, but i don't think it's possible to overclock the processor from inside an OS
[20:05] <nancy---> LjL,  wont vlc be enough?
[20:05] <Guest79018> idont undertand i spiking english
[20:05] <LjL> nancy---: depends on the needs.
[20:06] <LjL> !es | Guest79018
[20:06] <Guest79018> spanish
[20:06] <Guest79018> ok gracias
[20:06] <Cameron> Alanbell, I'm trying to partition my hdd and I can't use my graphics card on a live USB, I tried to download a live USB version of gparted but the GUI doesn't work, I'm now in the terminal. Any ideas  whatt to do?
[20:06] <nancy---> LjL,  well can you elaborate
[20:07] <kim_> I'm trying to get shotwell to recognise a single click, what does this mean? http://shotwell.3510.www.nabble.com/Shotwell-DingleClick-in-UI-td43860.html
[20:07] <LjL> nancy---: VLC is a specific program, that may or may not be adequate to the user's wants. the actual codecs on that page allow one to use the standard Ubuntu programs (of which VLC is not one) to play stuff.
[20:07] <sholsapp> theadmin: it seems to only be finding kernel headers =/
[20:07] <AlanBell> Cameron: well there is fdisk for messing with partitions from the command line, or you could go through that whole network configuration mess again on the liveUSB to install the ATI drivers on that
[20:07] <theadmin> sholsapp: Oh. Huh. Guess might be a part of such one.
[20:07] <styelz> Cameron: try cfdisk
[20:07] <sKew^_-> Cameron, go on Gparted webpage you will find all the commands there
[20:08] <AlanBell> sKew^_-: he has no GUI
[20:08] <Cameron> Uh ok
[20:08] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper aren't loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:08] <schnuffle> Raymond_: so you need: wget linux-image bzip2
[20:08] <nancy---> theadmin,  i think i will also need kubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:08] <sKew^_-> AlanBell, but he got a terminal/comand line so he can read the comands from gparted?
[20:08] <Raymond_> schnuffle, i am using natty
[20:08] <Cameron> Cfdisk brings up something odd but Idk how to use it
[20:09] <theadmin> nancy---: You need either that or VLC, well. VLC is just a player which plays everything. Codecs are for other players to work.
[20:09] <schnuffle> Raymond_: aaah, should have known that before :)
[20:09] <nancy---> theadmin,  ok
[20:09] <nancy---> LjL,  thx
[20:10] <OerHeks> AlanBell, Cameron, is the text-based alternate installer a solution ?
[20:11] <sKew^_-> well i shud just start watching the lagging movie..
[20:12] <gh0zt> Has anyone here had any luck getting the AE2500 wireless drivers to work in Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:12] <gh0zt> it is a Cisco USB Wifi adapter.
[20:12] <mile123> sKew^_-: am I right that every film is laggy?
[20:13] <sKew^_-> mile123, yes, i think its somthing with the driver for my grapich card
[20:14] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper aren't loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:16] <chiiiiiz> Hello!!!
[20:17] <chiiiiiz> Help!!!! No sound, with Pulseaudio... I have read all forums, all infos, and nothing works... I need someone on that...
[20:17] <cipher__> Has anyone experienced gtk or other gui rendering issues on 11.10?
[20:17] <fman23> chiiiiiz: install pavucontrol
[20:17] <fman23> chiiiiiz: first so we can diagnose this problem
[20:17] <chiiiiiz> I have a Delta1010LT soundcard (ICE1712)
[20:17] <chiiiiiz> it is installed
[20:18] <sKew^_-> mile123: ati radeon hd 5650 mobile 1gb sorry got DC'd
[20:18] <chiiiiiz> fman23: what info do you need?
[20:18] <fman23> first install pavucontrol and see if the device is muted, on some (few) computers, i have seen that the deevice is muted somehow
[20:18] <selina2> try alsamixer
[20:19] <chiiiiiz> I have installed envy24control, which is THE mixer for ICE1712 based soundcards...
[20:19] <selina2> go to terminal type 'alsamixer' check the controls
[20:20] <fman23> still check pavucontrol
[20:20] <Hexaditidom> I am having problems connecting to the internet. Ubuntu 10.04 recognizes my wireless adapter and can scan for networks, but I can't connect to my own network.
[20:20] <Hexaditidom> It uses WPA, but I uninstalled wpa_supplicant thinking it was a problem. When I try to make the latest wpa_supplicant, it lists a hundred errors. Hopefully I can connect without it.
[20:21] <mile123> sKew^_-: sorry, looks like have no idea.  Btw could you check that vlc is capable to use xv output?
[20:21] <fman23> Hexaditidom: u need wpa_supplicant installed for working with wpa networks
[20:21] <fman23> Hexaditidom: reinstall it with the command sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[20:22] <Hexaditidom> E: Couldn'
[20:22] <Hexaditidom> fman23: It gives "E: Couldn't find package wpa_supplicant"
[20:22] <sKew^_-> mile123, XVideo extention output?
[20:22] <LjL> Hexaditidom: it's wpasupplicant
[20:22] <fman23> mb, use wpa-supplicant
[20:22] <chiiiiiz> fman23: nothing looks wrong with pavucontrol
[20:22] <mile123> sKew^_-: exactly!
[20:23] <Hexaditidom> Now it says "Package wpasupplicant is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[20:23] <Cameron> um
[20:23] <chiiiiiz> alsamixer shows no muted line...
[20:23] <LjL> !info wpasupplicant
[20:23] <fman23> chiiiiiz: go to output devices and tell me which ones are muted if any
[20:23] <ssta> I have synergy between oneiric and windows 7.  It works fine usually, but occasionally, it will decide that it's only going to let the mouse cross monitors in a very small (maybe 30 or 40 pixels wide) gap at the top of the monitor.  Anyone encountered anything like that before?
[20:23] <Cameron> AlanBell: i cant work out a way to do this!
[20:23] <chiiiiiz> but I have no running program that implies sound... I guess I must have mixed things when trying the forums miracle solutions
[20:23] <ssta> oneiric is the server, in7 is the client
[20:24] <mcgrete> FYI: Re FreeNX / NXClient.  Solved - for remote connection, need to use port forwarding as well as modifying sshd_config and ssh_config.
[20:24] <Hexaditidom> Ljl: What do I do with this info?
[20:25] <fman23> Hexaditidom: sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[20:25] <fman23> chiiiiiz: i found this page: http://www.kevinsookocheff.com/2010/09/28/how-to-get-pulse-audio-to-recognize-your-delta-44-and-other-ice1712-cards/
[20:25] <fman23> chiiiiiz: i have to go, hope that fixes ur problem
[20:25] <chiiiiiz> I have only 1 output "analog output", it does not show it as muted
[20:25] <sKew^_-> mile123, it dident run smoother ;P i think i maby shud try to install the new drivers from ATI's webpage
[20:27] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:27] <SimeonK> hi, i did a very stupid thing: i have a dual boot win xp & ubuntu installation. i used grub customizer to set the default option to xp and set it's timeout to 0 seconds. so now i can't boot into ubuntu at all and i need to find a way to change the setting from windows. any ideas?
[20:27] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: i used to get the sound lag, but forget how i solved it.
[20:28] <OerHeks> SimeonK, hold left shift @ boot to enter grubmenu
[20:28] <SimeonK> i'll try thanks
[20:28] <mega2> should i upgrade my server from 10.04 to 11.10 and if so is it easy
[20:28] <vvor> How do I get a {1}bdb.ldif, to replace the {2}bdb.ldif. In /etc/openldap/slapd.d/cn\=config/olcDatabase\=\{2\}bdb  after a re-install of openldap-servers. I did rm /var/lib/ldap/* & /etc/openldap/slapd.d before the re-install. thnxs.
[20:28] <Hexaditidom> sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant gives: "E: Package wpasupplicant has no installation candidate". And as I said, I tried installing the latest version but it gives a hundred errors.
[20:29] <ssta> mega2: I wouldn't upgrade a server between LTSes unless you need to for some reason
[20:29] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, hehe its not a sound problem its problem that the film is laggin, the screen, gets like when you  win98 and try to load a web page whit a 64kbit modem the pic wile loading wassent entatced if you know what iam saing
[20:29] <yeats> !info wpasupplicant
[20:30] <mcgrete> mcgrete - Slight correction.  Port forwarding is all that is needed.  No modification required for ssh_config or sshd_config
[20:30] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: does it happen with all video , or just some
[20:30] <cipher__> themes do not apply correctly: http://i40.tinypic.com/15wzcyx.png (11.10, on fluxbox and openbox)
[20:31] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, whit all videos i got, i cant even start CSS from POL cuz its somthing funky whit that driver :/
[20:32] <Hexaditidom> yeats: I'm sorry, I'm new to this. What do I do with this info? I have tried installing using apt-get and bringing in the latest version, and have run into only errors.
[20:32] <Bragex9> my ubuntu computer wont start up properly.  It says "no init found" What can I do here?
[20:33] <recon69_lap> sKew^_-: no ideas i'm afraid
[20:34] <connor_> Can anyone here make a recommendation for relatively inexpensive dedicated hosting?
[20:34] <gr33n7007h> Does ubuntu 11.10 work out of the box with intel HD 3000 graphics
[20:34] <yumbo> gr33n7007h, yes
[20:35] <gr33n7007h> cheers yumbo
[20:35] <TTT_> hi everyone - how to backup your ecryptfs-pass in a way, that I may reinstall ubuntu while keeping my home-directory?
[20:36] <sKew^_-> recon69_lap, iam trying to ask in #ATI for help, thx :)
[20:37] <recon69_lap> TTT_ i normally install my home dir in it's own partition and it's all easy after that, but no idea about encryption or how your install was setup
[20:39] <Incarus6> TTT_, please read "man ecryptfs-recover-private"
[20:39] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:40] <Incarus6> !ot | connor_
[20:42] <sKew^_-> maby i shud try to install ATI binary X.org driver?
[20:44] <connor_> lol
[20:44] <connor_> this channel...
[20:44] <Incarus6> sKew^_, a good idea. I also prefer NVIDIAs binary driver instead of nouveau
[20:45] <daev_> anyone here experienced with xorg.conf?
[20:45] <zykotic10> !anyone | daev_
[20:47] <daev_>  I'm using the proprietary ati drivers at the moment and was hoping to use a different refresh rate. at the moment it's only got 60Hz available. However in windows permits higher. what would you suggest if not xorg?:]
[20:48] <zykotic10> daev_: are you using an LCD?  most (but not all) are 60Hz i believe.
[20:48] <Gamblerz> hi everybody
[20:48] <LjL> daev_: you could also use xrandr
[20:48] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[20:49] <ranger1234> hello im new here and i have a small something on my mind something or nothing and well i was just looking for an expert to chat to and pick thier brains so to speak anyone lol
[20:49] <daev_> it's possible that 60Hz is all it actually supports then? as $ xrandr -q  says it's only 59.9 lol (can it be wrong?)
[20:49] <bazhang> ranger1234, about ubuntu?
[20:49] <Hexaditidom> !info openssl
[20:50] <Aliv3> please don't use bit.ly
[20:50] <Incarus6> daev_, using lcd tv?
[20:51] <DarkRift> anyone know of a good minimum space required for ubuntu desktop ? I need to create a VM and the only thing I'll need to install is firefox and chrome, any idea ? I don't need to have much more space than that maybe a few MB for configs and swap
[20:51] <daev_> yes i am. sorry, using laptop. it supports maximum of 1366x768 (which after long hours is causing eyestrain :[ )
[20:51] <koho56x> hello
[20:52] <koho56x> strange
[20:52] <ranger1234> bazhang are u talking to me its just im new here and findin this chatroom a little awkward to understand lol thanks matie
[20:52] <connor_> Anyone have any ideas as to why a system running Ubuntu would just randomly lock up? I have an i7-950, six gigs of DDR3 ram and a GTX 570  and my computer just randomly freezes. I'll be doing something and then the entire system is unresponsive for a few seconds.
[20:53] <sholsapp> connor_ that happened to me for awhile - turned out it was a bad ram stick - run the memory checker?
[20:53] <Gamblerz> ulannnnn
[20:53] <connor_> sholsapp: I don't have the issue in Windows.
[20:53] <Gamblerz> i installed lion
[20:53] <sholsapp> connor_ neither did i... windows sucked that bad.
[20:54] <heliAAA> which program handles automount of external hdds today in unity (like hal in older versions)
[20:54] <connor_> I don't see how not having freezing issues makes Windows sucks
[20:54] <oscar76> DarkRift: maybe 2 or 3 GB
[20:54] <Gamblerz> and how will i load drivers
[20:54] <connor_> Anyways, I didn't have this issue with other distributions.
[20:54] <martyn_t> Evening ladies and gents.  I have a new TV dual tuner card (USB) which I got working by installing the make/make install the device drivers (don't ask me how!). Anyway, I installed Kaffeine after looking at the forums and I can get the card working (i.e. I can watch TV channels).  Trouble is, it seems every time I reboot I need to rescan all the channels using w_scan then do it again using...
[20:54] <martyn_t> ...the Kaffeine scanner.  Am I doing something wrong? Should the channels be saved? Ta for any advice.
[20:54] <Explodingpiglets> I have a question about dual booting.
[20:55] <Explodingpiglets> Does ubuntu slow the computer down?
[20:55] <sx> q
[20:55] <connor_> Explodingpiglets: not typically
[20:55] <fgf> hi! I need software to emulate hardware.
[20:55] <oscar76> Explodingpiglets: it shouldn't
[20:55] <connor_> fgf: that was so incredibly vague
[20:55] <connor_> My head just exploded
[20:55] <connor_> Cisco Packet Tracer!
[20:56] <fgf> what?
[20:56] <jutnux> fgf: Virtual Box?
[20:56] <fgf> nope
[20:56] <LjL> fgf: what hardware do you want to emulate?
[20:57] <fgf> LjL: Everything
[20:57] <ranger1234> oscar76 r u anygood at this spycology thing i just want to chat to someone about it and its like pulling teeth lol
[20:57] <WoC> fgf, care to elaborate ?
[20:57] <sholsapp> lol
[20:57] <LjL> fgf: uh...
[20:57] <theadmin> fgf: You can't emulate "everything".
[20:57] <DarkRift> haha
[20:57] <daev_> zykotic10, LjL Incarus6, apologies. i may be wasting your time. I am reading further into it and i do not need to consider a refreshrate on my lcd as the cause of my eye strain.
[20:57] <connor_> Anyone?
[20:57] <fgf> i not, but programm can!
[20:57] <DarkRift> ...
[20:58] <LjL> daev_: i agree. LCD refresh rate doesn't cause eye strain, all it does is make the picture update more or less often. these are not CRTs where the picture "flashes"
[20:58] <fgf> hi! I need software to emulate hardware. please
[20:58] <WoC> as long as you have a computer fast enough ;)
[20:58] <LjL> fgf: come on, be serious.
[20:58] <DarkRift> TROLLING
[20:58] <oscar76> ranger1234: ...?
[20:58] <pnorman> !repeat | fgf
[20:58] <sholsapp> trololol
[20:58] <connor_> fgf: I'd like to be able to emulate dual i7-3960x as well but I can't quite do that :p
[20:58] <ssta> fgf: virtualbox?
[20:58] <LjL> fgf: there are various pieces of software that emulate various pieces of hardware. pick one, and we'll tell you if there's an emulator for it. "everything" doesn't apply.
[20:58] <pnorman> connor_: you might be able to emulate it running at 400 MHz :P
[20:58] <randomuser> AlanBell, FYI, http://paste.ubuntu.com/813565/ - X runs by default with -novtswitch?!?!
[20:59] <Hexaditidom> It seems I've broken wpa_supplicant. Is there anyway to roll back changes like install/uninstall to a day or so ago?
[20:59] <daev_> LjL, yes it appears so. The only need for a faster refresh rate with an LCD it appears is for gaming, and other animation intensive applications. For which I do not concern myself with. :]
[20:59] <connor_> I'd love to know why my system randomly freezes.
[20:59] <ranger1234> oscar76 i kinda feel silly chating in the main room dont worry my friend i aint a nutter on the net ur quite safe promise lol
[20:59] <WoC> maybe he has a bunch of cray boxes to run it on ;)
[20:59] <bazhang> !ot | ranger1234
[20:59] <urlin2u> ranger1234, this is ubuntu support not a chat channel, f you need support then ask otherwise your in the wrong channel.
[21:00] <fgf> I want to run the program in a closed jar. It collects data about the computer. I have to replace the data.!
[21:00] <fgf> Help Please!
[21:00] <LjL> fgf: you're making no sense.
[21:00] <ranger1234> urlin2u oh ok i c thank u very much its like a rabbit warrren aint it thanks very much
[21:00] <soulf> Hi, I installed kde on Ubuntu 11.10; now whenever I log into a gnome session the theme and wallpaper are not loaded correctly and I can't change them in the settings. Here's a screenshot: http://bit.ly/Aiylt7   What can I do?
[21:00] <LjL> fgf: maybe try exposing the problem in a complete fashion.
[21:01] <DarkRift> jar = java, what jar ?
[21:01] <fgf> do not talk nonsense.
[21:01] <urlin2u> ranger1234, there is #ubuntu-offtopic but it has its limitations as well.
[21:01] <Krenair> fgf, you want to make the computer think it has completely different hardware to what it actually wants?
[21:01] <Krenair> to what it actually has*
[21:01] <theadmin> fgf: You are the one talking nonsense here -_- explain what you want
[21:01] <Gamblerz> where is the apple channel
[21:01] <pangolin> ##apple
[21:01] <_Ethan_> hi there, i´d like to know a simple web for learning how to use ubuntu fast, you know commands and so on
[21:02] <Gamblerz> [23:01] ##apple unable to join channel (address is banned)
[21:02] <_Ethan_> any recommended link?
[21:02] <fgf> I have already explained that it is not clear?
[21:02] <connor_> _Ethan_: depends on what youw ant to know
[21:02] <connor_> want*
[21:02] <ikonia> _Ethan_: https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:02] <theadmin> _Ethan_: Try http://ubuntu-manual.org although it's already out-of-date
[21:02] <_Ethan_> umm, nice!
[21:02] <urlin2u> _Ethan_,  you have any linux exsperience?
[21:02] <WoC> I have some packages which are left in limbo, it seems... listed as not upgraded, i presume those are pending upgrades or configure or something along that line... being new to apt, what should i use to address those packages ?
[21:03] <_Ethan_> connor_ just to be learning simple stuff at the same time i am working in my things :D
[21:03] <theadmin> WoC: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:03] <WoC> theadmin - k, ty, i think i tried that but i try again
[21:04] <connor_> _Ethan_: basic terminal commands?
[21:05] <WoC> theadmin, thanks, now that worked... could have sworn i tried that already
[21:05] <Success> Hey I want a good vnc server/client that works on ubuntu, i use gnome3 and kde also so it'd be nice if it works on all
[21:05] <theadmin> WoC: Might have tried just "upgrade".
[21:05] <ikonia> any vnc server/client will be fine then
[21:06] <nubuntu> hi anybody there?
[21:06] <WoC> theadmin, could be :)
[21:06] <theadmin> nubuntu: Many people.
[21:07] <nubuntu> someone speak spanish
[21:07] <ikonia> !es | nubuntu
[21:07] <nubuntu> gracias
[21:08] <oscar76> nubuntu: yo, pero no sé si pueda ayudarte
[21:12] <WoC> theadmin, can you remind me how to dist-upgrade to precise ? - i have one box running precise, but i would like to upgrade another one too and i forgot how to
[21:12] <theadmin> WoC: You need to be running Oneiric for that. Also, Precise is not supported here.
[21:12] <WoC> I am
[21:12] <theadmin> WoC: Well, visit #ubuntu+1. If I recall correctly, the command is "update-manager -d"
[21:13] <Tiraspol> If anyone ever needs any Carfax or AutoCheck reports lemme know, I got unlimited access.
[21:13] <WoC> I understand, being a developer version
[21:13] <zykotic10> WoC: dist-upgrade means upgrade all packages (same as full-upgrade), it doesn't have anything to do with upgrading to a new version.
[21:13] <WoC> k
[21:13] <WoC> thanks
[21:16] <ssta> historically iy's because it's how upgrading between Debian versions was done using apt.  dist-upgrade is more aggressive about dependencies
[21:16] <theadmin> ssta, zykotic10, WoC: To be precise, "upgrade" just performs upgrades, and "dist-upgrade" installs new dependencies, if any are there.
[21:17] <WoC> ok, thanks
[21:17] <ssta> theadmin: dist-upgrade will also remove packages.
[21:17] <theadmin> ssta: True dat
[21:18] <WoC> is there a non gui version of update-manager ?
[21:18] <ssta> dependency resolution is not a trivial thing.
[21:18] <theadmin> WoC: You want "do-release-upgrade"?
[21:18] <ssta> WoC: basically apt-get and aptitude and both non-gui versions
[21:18] <WoC> ok, thanks
[21:19] <lordjj> How do I check my audio driver?
[21:20] <Forex_Trader> hey
[21:24] <kn100-resolute> I am using the nvidia drivers and my monitors are the wrong resolution. I have an edid readout from windows, how can I apply it in ubuntu
[21:25] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: how did you install the nvidia drivers ?
[21:27] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: I just used the inbuilt restricted drivers thing built into ubuntu
[21:28] <kn100-resolute> I'm pretty sure it's to do with the dvi to vga adaptors I'm using
[21:28] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: thats good, have you rebooted after enabling them ?
[21:28] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: yep
[21:28] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: ok, so now use the tool nvida-settings to create an xorg config
[21:29] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: I'm not currently booted into Ubuntu, will you be here in twenty minutes or so?
[21:29] <JohnLemon> Imagine all the CITRUSSSSSSSSS....
[21:29] <lordjj> How do I check my audio driver?
[21:29] <guntbert> what is the apt-get equivalent of aptitude safe-upgrade?
[21:29] <ikonia> kn100-resolute: should be
[21:29] <ikonia> JohnLemon: mess around elsewhere
[21:29] <kn100-resolute> ikonia: Okay, I'll be back as soon as It's installed and booted up (I managed to bork my previous install xD)
[21:30] <ubuntuaddicted> guntbert, i believe it's just sudo apt-get upgrade isn't it?
[21:31] <zykotic10> guntbert: it doesn't exist :(
[21:31] <zykotic10> guntbert: one of the reasons, aptitude is superior
[21:31] <pocho22> ciao
[21:32] <ubuntuaddicted> guntbert, but I suppose it matters what your pref's are within /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[21:32] <guntbert> zykotic10: thx, was afraid of that - but there is a problem with aptitude - it doesn't recognize multi-arch
[21:32] <ubuntuaddicted> guntbert, what's your exact issue if you don't mind me asking?
[21:32] <guntbert> ubuntuaddicted: see ^^ please
[21:34] <guntbert> ubuntuaddicted: precisely spoken: I used to use aptitude but recently learned that it is problematic on multi-arched systems
[21:34] <ubuntuaddicted> you want aptitude to be able to download apps for multi-arch systems?
[21:35] <ubuntuaddicted> within VM's or Dual-Boot setups? sort of confused but it doesn't matter. good luck if you're getting help already
[21:35] <guntbert> ubuntuaddicted: thx :)
[21:35] <gbear14275> Hello, I recently uninstalled all my browsers and reinstalled chrome.  I'm trying to use Pandora but it keeps asking for flash.  I thought chrome had flash built in?  Is this not the case on linux?
[21:35] <ikonia> what does it matter if it's dual boot or a vm ?
[21:35] <steelbox> hi there!
[21:35] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, I would just suggest trying the flash helper app, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:36] <xangua> gbear14275: chromium does not, are you sure you are using Google Chrome, not Chromium¿¿
[21:36] <gbear14275> 11.10 ubuntuaddicted
[21:36] <xangua> gbear14275: you can also install flash from repositories
[21:36] <steelbox> is there a good alternative to megavideo?
[21:36] <Zainka> hola from cold up north. Some activity here i see but I dear to ask for some advice regarding xubunut and very low colore dept.
[21:36] <gbear14275> xangua, yes, I have both chromium and chrome.  Trying to use chrome
[21:36] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, it doesn't.
[21:36] <cipher__> There is a bug when opening gnome-terminal, the menu-bar opens with about a second of latency, and it also opens despite explicitly telling it not to with the radio button.
[21:36] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, ok, 1 second
[21:36] <cipher__> "Do not open"
[21:37] <gbear14275> xangua, Haven't got to that step yet.  was wanting to try out the integrated flash in chrome... but it doesn't seem to be working
[21:37] <Zainka> I have no idea on how to set the colore dept to an higher resolution. It seems to be stucked at 16bit dept
[21:37] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, and you've tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[21:38] <steelbox> does anybody knows a good alternative to megavideo?
[21:38] <xangua> steelbox: do you have an ubuntu related question¿
[21:38] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, I don't want to install flash yet.  Was hoping to use the pepper-flash integrated into chrome... but it doesn't seem to be there
[21:38] <ikonia> steelbox: not really an ubuntu issue
[21:39] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, have you tried the BETA of chrome?
[21:39] <steelbox> ikonia: I know that but I do not know any channel for that
[21:39] <steelbox> which one?
[21:39] <ikonia> steelbox: sorry, not here though
[21:39] <steelbox> xangua: any idea?
[21:39] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, I just downloaded the latest .deb from the chrome page
[21:40] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, there's a stable and a beta version. at least last time i used it
[21:40] <ikonia> steelbox: not in this channel please.
[21:40] <lordjj> How do I check my audio driver?
[21:41] <Zainka> How can I adjust colore dept os display in xubuntu 1104. It is very low here and images looks like old 256 colored images
[21:41] <SockPants> hi all
[21:41] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, ok, not sure.  Here is reference to what I'm talking about: http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086
[21:42] <SockPants> where can i find which interface numbers are which network controllers? i have 3 network controllers listed in 'lspci' but don't know which 'eth' numbers belong to them
[21:42] <nerilex> hi people,
[21:42] <zykotic10> lordjj: if you want to see what driver is currently being used, one method would be to run "lspci -vnvn" then find the "Audio device" section and "Kernel driver in use:"
[21:42] <nerilex> I've two problems with an ubuntu installation
[21:43] <Zainka> problem is?
[21:43] <nerilex> pkexec asks for the password of a different user then the one locked in
[21:43] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, i am using LTS still so I can't really help for sure. My VM of 11.10 had to get taken down, needed the HDD space. :-)
[21:44] <gbear14275> ubuntuaddicted, no problem.  Thanks for trying... not sure if I messed up an install or what
[21:44] <nerilex> and some tools seam to be unable to map the uid to an user name
[21:44] <gbear14275> Is anyone here using built in flash with chrome?
[21:44] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, it's pretty hard to mess up to install. i am sure you did it fine.
[21:45] <Zainka> nerilex: ooh. root pwd maybe?
[21:45] <zykotic10> gbear14275: why use a closed source program, when chromium gets the new features first?  well, good luck.
[21:45] <nerilex> zainka, nope
[21:46] <nerilex> zanika, there are two users on the sys, b & z
[21:46] <nerilex> b was created first
[21:46] <gbear14275> zykotic10, Not the question but was hoping to test out the built in vs the open source version.  Trying to troubleshoot a condition where flash settings are unclickable.  As I mentioned... I have both chromium and Chrome
[21:46] <nerilex> but z is asked for b's passphrase
[21:47] <gbear14275> zykotic10, that answer your question?
[21:47] <Zainka> nerilex: pkexec allows an authorized user to execute PROGRAM as another user. If        username is not specified, then the program will be executed as the        administrative super user, root.
[21:47] <zykotic10> gbear14275: what version of ubuntu are you using?  that flash non-clickable was an old issue, has it resurfaced?
[21:48] <dagerik> Id the crontab: 01 16 * * 5  each friday at 16:01 ?
[21:48] <dagerik> *is
[21:48] <zykotic10> gbear14275: are you using 64bit ubuntu?
[21:48] <gbear14275> zykotic10, I'm using 11.10, ran into it using chromium beta releases
[21:48] <gbear14275> zykotic10, yes, 64bit
[21:48] <nerilex> zainka, that's what the manpage says, but there is no option to specify who's password should be used
[21:49] <zykotic10> gbear14275: the OLD issue was due to the wrapper using 32bit flash.  shouldn't be an issue now with native 64bit flash.  good luck.
[21:49] <nerilex> zainka, the problem occurs because ubuntu-software-center, synaptic and more tools use pkexec to get executed with root privileges
[21:50] <gbear14275> zykotic10, Maybe you can help with this.  I noticed in software center that there were two options for installing flash -
[21:50] <Zainka> nerilex: I know, it was easier to snip it from there :) OK, I ll try something here
[21:50] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, have you checked out this helpful site for things to do after installing 11.10? http://smashingweb.ge6.org/things-to-do-after-install-ubuntu-11-10-for-perfect-desktop/
[21:51] <Slart> gbear14275: does chromium come with the built-in-flash thingy? I just tested in a vm and chromium doesn't show any flash based stuff with just the default install
[21:52] <Guest81966> hi, one question, what is the most common doubt asked here about ubuntu??
[21:52] <gbear14275> First "Adobe Flash plugin" desc - "Installer for the Adobe Flash plugin for Mozilla", second "Adobe Flash Plugin 10" desc - "Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11"  Which should I select?
[21:52] <zykotic10> Slart: chromium doesn't come with flash, no.
[21:52] <gbear14275> Slart, no chromium requires a seperate flash installation
[21:52] <Ronis_BR> hi all, is anyone using dell inspiron n4050 laptop?
[21:52] <zykotic10> gbear14275: it's version 11 that has native 64bit support.
[21:52] <Guest81966> i have a blog, and I'd like to explain the most common questions about this O.S.
[21:52] <Zainka> nerilex: pkexec should ask for the password when invoked in a window. However, I have heard there have been some issues in 11.10 version, but i run xubuntu 11.04 for the moment
[21:53] <Slart> Guest81966: most common question.. "Can I ask any question in here?", answer "No, just user end user support for ubuntu"
[21:53] <carty-server> hello room
[21:53] <Slart> =)
[21:53] <armor-64> hi i want to install utf-8 greek (language)i have ubuntu 11.10 eng and the subs for the videos shows up like Chinese,any commands to terminal or somthink to do this???
[21:53] <gbear14275> zykotic10, so that is my question... use the one with no version stated, OR use the one with "10" in the title and "11" in the description
[21:53] <[deXter]> Guest81966, The most common question is "how to change my nickname here?"
[21:53] <Guest81966> XD
[21:53] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, i run the beta on my old gateway laptop and have no isses with it
[21:53] <zykotic10> gbear14275: try the Flash11 version
[21:54] <htmlinprogress> what the difference (amd ) from an an apu to a cpu?
[21:54] <ubuntuaddicted> gbear14275, 32 bit LTS 10.04.3
[21:54] <gbear14275> zykotic10, the one with "11" in the description?
[21:54] <zykotic10> gbear14275: yes
[21:54] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, APU includes the GPU as well; also this question belongs in ##hardware
[21:55] <zykotic10> gbear14275: also verify you haven't added any other versions, gnash etc. more then one flash and you'll run into issues
[21:55] <gbear14275> zykotic10, ok.  and just to clarify you aren't able to help diagnose the lack of flash in the Chome .deb for 64bit correct?
[21:55] <ubuntuaddicted> htmlinprogress, it means it has more then just cpu, it has gfx built in as well. I think. lol
[21:55] <zykotic10> gbear14275: that's propritary software, i have no interest sorry.
[21:55] <gbear14275> zykotic10, I uninstalled everything I could find related to browsers, flash and everything else to try and start fresh
[21:56] <htmlinprogress> this the preamble to if i get an apu  will ubuntu support ,if not when?
[21:56] <zykotic10> gbear14275: good plan.
[21:56] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, it already has good support since kernel 2.6.39
[21:56] <DarkRift> is there any way to open a console on the "preparing to install ubuntu" screen ?
[21:56] <carty-server> Before Ubuntu 11.10 I used to be able to check some boxes in my remote connection settings window and it set it up for connection. This no longer happens. How do I get that back?
[21:56] <DarkRift> it says I'm not connected to the internet which I want to validate
[21:56] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, which means the current Ubuntu 11.10 works well with APUs
[21:57] <ubuntuaddicted> Darkfrost, ifconfig
[21:57] <gbear14275> zykotic10, You don't happen to know why there are two entries for flash in the software center do you?
[21:57] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, do you have a valid IP?
[21:57] <DarkRift> ubuntuaddicted, I know that, problem is I don't have a console
[21:57] <DarkRift> to validate that
[21:57] <zykotic10> gbear14275: one is the debian upstream version, the other is ubuntu specific (i believe)
[21:57] <nerilex> zainka, yeah, the problem happens on an 11.10 box under gnome3
[21:57] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, which ubuntu are you using?
[21:57] <DarkRift> I want to open a console in the installation process
[21:58] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  then how well ? and how effective /utilized so i can use it in games and app that use it
[21:58] <gbear14275> zykotic10, ok thanks for your help.  I'll give it a try
[21:59] <Raymond_> what are the dependencies for python urid
[21:59] <Raymond_> urwid
[21:59] <Zainka> nerilex:  I am no expert so i have decided to wait a while before using gnome3. I guess therel be troubles so I stick with good ol'l   X for as long as it suits my needs. Sorry I cant help.
[21:59] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, pretty decent. with the open-source drivers most 3D apps and simple or old games work fine (eg; Oblivion). Newer games will be slow though (eg: Skyrim). However you could install the restricted drivers if you want full acceleration, but I wouldn't recommend this *unless* you are getting really bad FPS in new games..
[22:00] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, if it doesn't work during install, that most likely means the module (driver) for your ethernet card OR wifi is not built into the kernel
[22:00] <htmlinprogress> [deXter], your telling me to go to #hardware and talk about linux when they will say the same..
[22:00] <ubuntuaddicted> htmlinprogress, i think he is merely trying to keep the room on topic. it's a very fast paced room. :-)
[22:00] <Pancakez> If I want to upgrade my system from 11.04 to 11.10, all I need to do is make sure all my packages are up to date, then run "sudo do-release-upgrade" correct?
[22:01] <phong_> in ubuntu, is there a way to set all folders to view as 'list' mode?
[22:01] <AlanBell> yes Pancakez
[22:01] <phong_> i hate everytime it open as icon mode
[22:01] <DarkRift> ubuntuaddicted, I have an address, the "connection information" says so and the gateway is valid, only there is an X stating that I'm not connected to the internet, which is wrong, because all my other vm's work fine with the same configurations
[22:01] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, yes, open nautilus and under edit, preferences
[22:01] <NORMALNY_FACET> ?
[22:01] <Pancakez> AlanBell: ok, thanks
[22:01] <nerilex> zainka, thanks for trying
[22:01] <chorizo> d
[22:01] <ikonia> !upgrade > Pancakez
[22:01] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, huh, weird. are you're possitive there is nothing different in the VM settings?
[22:01] <DarkRift> absolutely
[22:01] <gbear14275> zykotic10, after install and browser reboot, still not recognized.  Shouldn't require a machine restart should it?
[22:02] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, you're sure your DHCP server has additional addresses to give out?
[22:02] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, i have not a clue
[22:02] <ikonia> Pancakez: check the pm ubottu just sent you, could bit of pre-upgrade reading that may answer a lot of questions going forward
[22:02] <gbear14275> software center says it's installed
[22:02] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, show me hwo to do it?
[22:02] <DarkRift> affirmative, I have a valid ip as I said
[22:02] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  wel i am thinkin about buyin it a apu based pc with linux  to sell  ,so i MUST ask somewhere... is there a link or something?
[22:02] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, which version of ubuntu?
[22:02] <Pancakez> ikonia, thanks for the links
[22:02] <phong_> 11.10
[22:02] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, Link for what exactly?
[22:02] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, on the left, click on the folder icon which should open nautilus
[22:03] <DarkRift> finally got passed that screen ... dunno how tho
[22:03] <ubuntuaddicted> DarkRift, cool
[22:03] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, sorry man, i have classic view mode
[22:03] <fernando_> Hi, I'm new in ubuntu... how can I add gnome-panel to the autostart applications?
[22:03] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, tell me in command mode
[22:03] <fernando_> ubuntu 11.10
[22:03] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  does it work in 10.04 and 10.10?
[22:03] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, type in nautilus in your cli
[22:03] <phong_> ok
[22:04] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, now, in the Edit pulldown, you should see something that says Preferences
[22:04] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, Not really..  it will install but you wont get any graphics acceleration
[22:04] <htmlinprogress> [deXter],  apu stuff i guess
[22:04] <htmlinprogress> graphics acceleration? means?
[22:04] <gbear14275> zykotic10, looks like that install tried to install the 32bit version.
[22:04] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, the first tab should be Views. change that to List View
[22:04] <phong_> got it
[22:04] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, thanks
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> htmlinprogress, like being able to use google earth and 3d direct rendering
[22:05] <phong_> why is it call nauti?
[22:05] <phong_> lol
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, nautilus is the default gnome file manager
[22:05] <phong_> ubuntuaddicted, it really doesn't make any sense by calling 'nautilus'
[22:05] <zykotic10> gbear14275: sorry i don't have an answer for that...  silly ubuntu ;)
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, :-)
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> phong_, gotta run. take care
[22:05] <phong_> okie thanks
[22:05] <[deXter]> htmlinprogress, Meaning which 3D applications will be rendered by the CPU instead of the GPU component, so you won't be able to play 3D games because it'll be really slow (infact they might even just crash)
[22:06] <ubuntuaddicted> take care everyone. ubuntuforums.org is a plaec to get help IF you can't stick around in IRC. I am dannyboy79 over there
[22:06] <Nano> I'm trying to compile something with g++ and I'm getting "error: cast from 'unit_head*' to 'uintptr {aka unsigned int}' loses precision [-fpermissive]" is there a specific place to append this -fpermissive flag, or should I just fix the code?
[22:06] <zykotic10> gbear14275: if you do have 32bit ubuntu, try searching the net for the fix for clicking not working... it must still be out there, somewhere.
[22:06] <[deXter]> Cya ubuntuaddicted .. why don't you just use the same nickname here? :P
[22:06] <rebecca43> help how do I get /dev/sda1 visible from root partition of /proc ?
[22:06] <zykotic10> gbear14275: s/32bit ubuntu/32bit flash/
[22:06] <ikonia> Nano: ##c++ or #gcc
[22:07] <ikonia> rebecca43: root partition of /proc ??
[22:07] <Nano> Thanks, I'll check there
[22:07] <rebecca43> ikonia: yeah I think my ssh client is trojaned
[22:07] <ikonia> rebecca43: what are you talking about ?? you are not making sense
[22:07] <[deXter]> ^
[22:07] <dagerik> Suggestion for a CLI program for running a sound file in a loop?
[22:07] <zykotic10> gbear14275: one version http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/11/i-cannot-click-on-flash-in-ubuntu.html
[22:07] <[deXter]> dagerik, mplayer
[22:08] <rebecca43> ikonia: well when I type cat /dev/urand | telnet fbi.gov 80 I get an error
[22:08] <zykotic10> dagerik: "mplayer -loop 0 foo"
[22:08] <ikonia> rebecca43: don't be silly in here please. Play elsewhere
[22:08] <dagerik> zykotic10: Ah nice, how can I also mute the sound?
[22:08] <rebecca43> ikonia: penis
[22:08] <zykotic10> dagerik: "mplayer -loop 0 -ao null foo"
[22:08] <phong_> does anyone know how to make a shortcut to a folder and place it on desktop?
[22:09] <phong_> this way i dont have to browser thru deep folder and subfolders
[22:09] <dagerik> zykotic10: The reason I want this peculiar function is because this removes an annoying high pitch sound which my computer makes when I am not playing sound
[22:09] <phong_> anyone?
[22:09] <zykotic10> phong_: cd ~/Desktop && ln -s /path/to/file
[22:09] <phong_> zykotic10, thru command line?
[22:10] <zykotic10> phong_: the direction i just gave is cli yes, i'm sure there is a gui method (i just don't know it)
[22:11] <zykotic10> phong_: the && separates the two commands, don't use && just run the two separate commands
[22:11] <mikePfeiffer1827> help?. How can I move icons around on the launcher and also view hidden files and folders in my Home Folder?
[22:12] <zykotic10> mikePfeiffer1827: ctrl+h in nautilus should show hidden files.
[22:12] <gbear14275> zykotic10, just found this for those who might ask in the future: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=72dcc29296d64aa9&hl=en
[22:12] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, ok
[22:12] <phong_> zykotic10, it works now
[22:13] <phong_> zykotic10, u're smart..best of the best
[22:13] <Zell84> Hey guys. Absolute noob here just getting my feet wet. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my mac via usb drive. I've ran all of the terminal commands until it wants to send the iso file to my ext hard rive. Every time I do my hard drive fails to read and I have to reformat it. Any help would be appreciated
[22:13] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, Thanks for the help there. Is there a way of re-arranging icons on the launcher without having to remove them all and reorder again?
[22:13] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, heh you get the ms to boot?
[22:13] <gbear14275> thanks to all who helped.  Chrome has a bug with the bundled flash supposedly...
[22:13] <sennin> j #canal
[22:13] <zykotic10> mikePfeiffer1827: no idea sorry.
[22:13] <sennin> hello
[22:14] <sennin> anonymous atack ?
[22:14] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, ok. Thanks for the help. I'll remove them all and then re-order. Thanks for the help.
[22:14] <LjL> sennin: ... is offtopic for this channel
[22:15] <sennin> what channel is?
[22:15] <Chaorain> Hey, I'm trying to install a windows wireless driver on Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit. I got NDIS installed but what version of the driver do I go with? Win7 64 bit?
[22:15] <LjL> sennin: i don't know. generally freenode doesn't partake in illegal activities.
[22:15] <sennin> you have scared
[22:15] <sennin> loser
[22:16] <Pimo> hi all
[22:16] <mikePfeiffer1827> zykotic10, I am new to Ubuntu, is there a way of running executables on the OS?
[22:17] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: "executables"?
[22:17] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: of course there is a way of running Linux programs, if that's what you mean...
[22:17] <damselfly9> WINE
[22:17] <rcmaehl> How do I make a GUI based program for Ubuntu? I mean are there any EASY programming languages (similar to Autoit perferably or something that allows for both GUI creation and Desktop/Program Automation that has a BASIC like syntax?) for Ubuntu?
[22:17] <Guinness2702> Hi,  Anybody know how to get "cal" to start the week on Monday?  The '-m" option seems to have been removed at some point.  There's some stuff on teh interwebz about setting locale and first-weekday, but I have those set correctly it appears
[22:17] <mikePfeiffer1827> .exe files. I have installed Ubuntu and left windows
[22:17] <LjL> rcmaehl: "gambas" is one
[22:18] <mikePfeiffer1827> LjL, I mean .exe files from Windows
[22:18] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: .exe files are Windows programs. you cannot run them in Linux, unless you use emulation software like WINE, which can run some of them.
[22:18] <LjL> !wine > mikePfeiffer1827
[22:18] <s> !topic
[22:18] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: you are normally better off finding alternatives than trying to run windows programs under wine
[22:18] <rcmaehl> AlanBell: I'm working on that though
[22:18] <Guest41047> you work to the gov
[22:19] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, if you have a Windows licence, you could try running virtualbox (missed the start of this, but am assuming you want to run windows apps under ubuntu)
[22:19] <Pimo> hello, i have a big issue with the last version of ubuntu, after the upgrade i've notified that my pc at first start shutsdown alone.. and after 1 or 2 reboots it will work fine without problems for days... but if i shutdown for example during the night and i start it on the next monday it shoutsdown again...
[22:19] <Pimo>  everyday the same thing, why? my pc is a acer aspire 5720, is it a notified issue?? what can i do? i've tried also to format and install xubuntu
[22:19] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, I see now that .exe from Windows are unable to
[22:19] <LjL> Guest41047: this channel is about Ubuntu support. do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:19] <AlanBell> rcmaehl: python is a nice language, and can work with the glade user interface designer
[22:19] <nancy-->  i have one website but many types of projects. eg. blog , webhosting services, software selling and development     .          i was thinking ,instead of 3 different sites, to make just one website and at sub domains for each. like  soft.mysite.com , blog.mysite.com  etc . good idea for  SEO and users , marketing , etc  any comments ?
[22:19] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: install wine and they will probably mostly run, but what is it you are trying to run?
[22:19] <zykotic10> !wine | mikePfeiffer1827
[22:20] <bazhang> nancy--, thats not an ubuntu support  question
[22:20] <damselfly9> <mikePfeiffer1827: is there any chance your computer could handle multi-boot?
[22:20] <Slart> nancy--: ubuntu can do it, no problems.. the rest is offtopic in here
[22:20] <AlanBell> nancy--: sure, go for it
[22:20] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, sorry unable to run windows exe files nativley from default, however is there a way to allow it to run nativley?
[22:20] <zykotic10> mikePfeiffer1827: in the long run - you're better to find gnu/linux replacements for your windows programs.  wine should only be a transitional tool.
[22:21] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, The computer is old and Windows XP is unable to boot
[22:21] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: if you install wine then .exe files will run as if they were native, as everyone is saying
[22:21] <scientes_> is there any way I can stop writes to my disk, and copy it to another drive, without having to boot from a CD?
[22:21] <AlanBell> nancy--: please keep it in the channel, but that isn't really an ubuntu relevant question
[22:21] <nancy--> Slart,  AlanBell  where can we talk about it. (this is ubuntu only)
[22:22] <mikePfeiffer1827> Yes, I see. Thankyou. Ubuntu is installed alongside Ubuntu, however I am unable to boot Windows (XP)
[22:22] <LjL> nancy--: you're already talking about it in #ubuntu-offtopic - seems appropriate to me
[22:22] <Slart> nancy--: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:22] <nancy--> oh..ok
[22:23] <Guinness2702> scientes_, if you re-mounted your filesystem(s) as read-only, that would stop disk writes (I don't know enough about this though, your system might become unstable - maybe not, but I don't know enough for sure)
[22:23] <MrBolzofstil> Hi, got a little question, do you know why my shortcul maj(left)+ctrl+T doesn't work but my shortcut maj(right)+ctrl+T works in a terminal??? Thanks
[22:23]  * nancy-- invites Slart  to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:23] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, I have tried many solutions and scripts from the community here and ended up having to use the Ubuntu boot disk to reinstall Ubuntu.
[22:24] <ikonia> nancy--: he already knows about the channel as he told you to use it, please stop
[22:24] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, Previous post was related to booting of XP
[22:24] <MrBolzofstil> Hi, got a little question, do you know why my shortcul maj(left)+ctrl+T doesn't work but my shortcut maj(right)+ctrl+T works in a terminal??? Thanks
[22:25] <AlanBell> mikePfeiffer1827: dunno if I missed it, but what is it you want to do exactly?
[22:25] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, This computer is old. It has 1GB of ram and a 3GHz pentium 4 processor. It would not have the ram to be able to Dual boot XP and Ubuntu
[22:26] <Guinness2702> 1GB is plenty for XP
[22:26] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: uh? dual booting has nothing to do with RAM
[22:26] <warfaren> what? dual boot does notmean youre running the systems at the same time
[22:26] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, Dual boot = running one OS or the other - not at the same time
[22:27] <warfaren> it just means theyre both installed and you get to choose which ever when you start your pc
[22:27] <mikePfeiffer1827> AlanBell, Sorry, I have been trying to boot XP after installing Ubuntu as I have games and programs on XP that I would like to continue to play. XP is unable to boot
[22:28] <damselfly9> which bootloader did you install?
[22:28] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, that is nothing to do with ubuntu - if you have dual boot set up you should be able to run XP
[22:28] <mikePfeiffer1827> Guiness2702, I thought by dual boot, you meant booting both at the same time. I have both OS installed but cannot boot XP
[22:28] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, no, dual boot means running one OR the other
[22:28] <LjL> Guinness2702: that it is "nothing to do with Ubuntu" might be an overstatement, it could well be a problem with GRUB
[22:28] <mikePfeiffer1827> All I get is a blank screen
[22:28] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, you want to run one inside the other
[22:29] <urlin2u> LjL, he posted a bootscript yesterday all looked good.
[22:29] <Guinness2702> LjL, yeah, and he could have screwed up his partitions too, but dual booting (when set up correctly) should not in and of itself prevent XP from running
[22:29] <mikePfeiffer1827> Guiness2702, No, I would like to run one or the other. There are just some programs that are only available to run in XP
[22:29] <mikePfeiffer1827> or Windows, sorry
[22:30] <LjL> mikePfeiffer1827: have you already tried running "sudo update-grub"? though urlin2u tells me you posted your GRUB data before and they were ok
[22:30] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: edit /etc/default/grub and comment out one of the rows to make grub visible (cant remember which one, i think maybe hidden timeout) and run sudo grub-update to apply the config
[22:30] <warfaren> oops
[22:30] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, you still have the bootscript results.txt?
[22:30] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: sudo update-grub it is, my bad
[22:31] <Detergentizer> Hi...
[22:31] <Detergentizer>  deleted b partitions but now I can not boot windows 7
[22:31] <LjL> Detergentizer: you deleted what partitions?
[22:31] <bazhang> Detergentizer, try ##windows
[22:31] <Detergentizer> when i boot it goes to grub rescue instead ... is there a way to fix?
[22:31] <Detergentizer> I removd ubunt partitions
[22:31] <urlin2u> LjL,  could have missed something though, you never know.
[22:31] <mikePfeiffer1827> LjL, yes, ran the boot script and all. I do not have the boot script as after following urlin2u's instructions nothing was able to boot. So I put the boot disk in for Ubuntu and erased and reinstalled
[22:31] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: also be informed that there is something called "wine" that lets you run windows programs on ubuntu
[22:32] <LjL> Detergentizer: you need the Windows install CD to restore the Windows loader, ##windows should be able to help you with the process
[22:32] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, you could of just reloaded grub.,
[22:32] <mikePfeiffer1827> warfaren, I got that one before
[22:32] <warfaren> ok
[22:32] <Detergentizer> the cdrom stopped working :(
[22:33] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, I don't know much about reloading grub.
[22:33] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: it gets better with every update. some programs require a little tweaking to run well though, but most work out of the box
[22:34] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, you didn't need to reinstall I only told you how to load the ms boot to the mbr, grub can be reloaded easily, but I understand if you didn't kno how.
[22:34] <mikePfeiffer1827> warfaren, Ill install wine later, after I know I can boot XP
[22:34] <monx> why does cat'ing stuff into /dev/audio not do anything?
[22:35] <totti> wiiiiiiiiiiiii canal de age of empires
[22:35] <totti> ???
[22:35] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, I followed your instructions posted yesterday and is said windows sucessfully recovered
[22:35] <Guinness2702> monx, what is /dev/audio?
[22:35] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, however i restarted and got a blank screen
[22:35] <warfaren> myself, i tried yesterday to boot an ubuntu 10.04 live cd and installed wine. mounted the windows partition that i had and started jedi knight 2 that was on the hdd. i was so amazed to see that it was running at 100% on the highest settings and i was just using the default graphics drivers that the live environment autoloads!
[22:35] <Guinness2702> monx, I don't even have a /dev/audio on my system
[22:35] <LjL> totti: i don't see any. but ask in #freenode
[22:36] <Raymond_> where would i find older packages of python
[22:36] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, nothing booted, so I reinstalled Ubuntu
[22:36] <Raymond_> below 2.7
[22:36] <warfaren> now its an old game but so is that computer
[22:36] <Guinness2702> mikePfeiffer1827, did you see a GRUB menu, or did it go straight to a blank screen?
[22:36] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, still wouldn't boot though, bummer. There are  great helpers for this on the ##windows channel i would try there for the XP booting.
[22:37] <damselfly9> mikePfeiffer1827: you might need to do "repair mode" with your windows cd
[22:37] <monx> Guiness2702, just noticed I don't either. guess that answers my question haha
[22:37] <monx> thanks
[22:37] <fil> hello guys... 2questions... after an apt-get update i have : The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic transmission transmission-cli transmission-common transmission-gtk.. i added a ppa for transmission ;cause of problems i had.. 1) how can i install just the trasmission files? 2) do you think dist-upgrade safe option ??
[22:37] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, There was the Bios Scan and then a blank/black screen
[22:37] <Guinness2702> monx, lol, it's easy to assume
[22:37] <zykotic10> fil: dist-upgrade will update to the new kernel - not sure about your transmission PPA issue.
[22:37] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, I will try ##windows channel
[22:38] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, with the ms boot loaded?
[22:38] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, did repair yesterday and everything went
[22:38] <fil> zykotic: do u know how can i install just the trasmission files, but not update kernel?
[22:38] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: if you cant set it up for dual boot with grub, theres always easybcd for windows that will let you edit the windows bootloader to load ubuntu :)
[22:38] <zykotic10> !tab > fil
[22:38] <zykotic10> fil: no idea sorry
[22:39] <damselfly9> mikePfeiffer1827: if grub doesn't work, maybe lilo?
[22:39] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, you mean with the boot CD in? I took out the CD after the repair finished and restarted
[22:39] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: but you need to get xp booting somehow first, forexample by repairing with the cd
[22:39] <mikePfeiffer1827> damselfly9, I don't know much about boot systems
[22:39] <zykotic10> fil: would/does "sudo apt-get install transmission" work?
[22:40] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, no after you ran the fixmbr.
[22:40] <fil> zykotic10, for some reason no...
[22:40] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, after I ran fixmbr, I ran fixboot C:
[22:41] <jd_user_23234> Hello!
[22:41] <fil> zykotic10, thanx anyway...
[22:41] <zykotic10> fil: are you using transmission-gtk as package name?
[22:42] <zykotic10> fil: never mind, transmission is a package name as well
[22:42] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, did you notice that was a secondary command and the fixmbr alone generally works.
[22:42] <warfaren> mikePfeiffer1827: you did that and its still booting into ubuntu?
[22:43] <mikePfeiffer1827> urlin2u, no I did not realise
[22:43] <mikePfeiffer1827> warfaren, I reinstalled Ubuntu
[22:43] <xzenx> hello, when using ubuntu software center what is the package i need to use certain proprietary media types?
[22:43] <Cocorico> Hi, how do i install the sun jre in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:44] <zykotic10> Cocorico: from now on, you need to manually download java from oracle directly
[22:44] <xangua> Cocorico: you can manually download it and install it from the java web
[22:44] <LjL> xzenx: probably ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:44] <OerHeks> xzenx, restricted-extra's
[22:44] <Cocorico> ok, thanks
[22:44] <xzenx> thank you
[22:44] <xangua> Cocorico: you can also install Open JDK from repositorioes
[22:44] <urlin2u> mikePfeiffer1827, cool yeah if XP worked before it is probably fixable but you need a windows pro.
[22:44] <LjL> Cocorico: otherwise you can always, in most cases, use OpenJDK
[22:44] <Cocorico> nah, i need the sun version here
[22:44] <Cocorico> i'll download, thanks
[22:44] <dagerik> Cocorico: what do you need the sun version for?
[22:44] <LjL> !java > Cocorico this has the procedure
[22:45] <Guinness2702> xzenx, it's not a package - go to Edit -> Software Sources and select restricted software
[22:45] <Cocorico> i'm a developer, i need the jre to match my jdk
[22:45] <Cocorico> thanks for the help
[22:46] <norbert_> hey all, when I boot my computer I need to mount the USB like 100 times before it starts automounting
[22:46] <jd_user_23234> ıs there any command which gets a parameter pid (proces id) and gives output the window id's which are using by this proces. After that i need another command to get window title name from this window id. is there someone to help me?
[22:46] <norbert_> does this sound familiar to anyone here?
[22:47] <Guinness2702> jd_user_23234, sounds familiar, but you need to do some googling - try 'x window information' or wininfo, and stuff like that
[22:48] <Pimo> hello, i have a big issue with the last version of ubuntu, after the upgrade i've notified that my pc at first start shutsdown alone.. and after 1 or 2 reboots it will work fine without problems for days... but if i shutdown for example during the night and i start it on the next monday it shoutsdown again...
[22:48] <Pimo>  everyday the same thing, why? my pc is a acer aspire 5720, is it a notified issue?? what can i do? i've tried also to format and install xubuntu
[22:48] <CyberDawg> norbert_, when I was younger I used to mount almost anything that moved
[22:48] <Zell> Hey all. Noob here trying to install ubuntu on my macbook bia usb hard drive. Everything runs smooth through terminal until it tries to move the file onto the hard drive itself. At this point the hard drive becomes unreadable and I have to reformat it. ANy help would be appreciated.
[22:49] <Guinness2702> Pimo, have a look in /var/log/messages for clues
[22:49] <Pimo> tnx
[22:49] <CyberDawg> wouldnt take me 100 times to do it eiter ;)... js....
[22:49] <LjL> jd_user_23234: i've found this http://blog.chewearn.com/2010/01/18/find-window-id-of-a-process-id-in-bash-script/
[22:49] <norbert_> jd_user_23234, your question isn't 100% clear, since you start it with "ıs there any command which gets a parameter pid (proces id)"
[22:49] <mowiaow> hi
[22:50] <mowiaow> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[22:50] <norbert_> jd_user_23234, is that part of what you want, something that gets a process id?
[22:50] <Guinness2702> norbert_, I think he means 'takes' instead of 'gets'
[22:50] <haux> I have an ASUS F1A75-M board with an AMD A8-3870K processor. I can't seem to find any temperature sensor program that will identify the board/cpu. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:50] <jd_user_23234> LjL:  thank you! :)
[22:50] <Guinness2702> norbert_, he want's window id &/or title from pid
[22:50] <Guest39331> what?
[22:51] <jd_user_23234> norbert_: if i will get a window id list, command line app will need a pid. right?
[22:51] <Guinness2702> "xwininfo" - I knew it was something like that :)
[22:51] <norbert_> yeah, so something like http://blog.chewearn.com/2010/01/18/find-window-id-of-a-process-id-in-bash-script/
[22:51] <norbert_> basically a let me google that for you
[22:51] <Raymond_> how do i uninstall python?
[22:51] <Raymond_> python 2.7.1
[22:51] <mowiaow> darmok his arms wide
[22:52] <LjL> mowiaow: this is an Ubuntu support channel, please don't fill it with irrelevant things :)
[22:52] <mowiaow> ok i fill it with things
[22:52] <Guinness2702> mowiaow, unless you're looking for locale settings for darmok's language ;)
[22:52] <norbert_> that is just scary, I found the same page as LjL
[22:52] <acerimmer> Raymond_: sudo apt-get purge python
[22:52] <norbert_> so many questions in channels like this that can be answered with a single Google search
[22:53] <_mike_> urlin2u, i'm back and Windows XP doesn't boot. Was just checking
[22:53] <Guinness2702> norbert_, true - i googled my question and got nothing - i asked here and got nothing - i googled again and found the answer :D
[22:53] <_mike_> urlin2u, Will head over to ##windows channel
[22:55] <Raymond_> acerimmer, thats what i tried and a bunch of programs popped up, is that what python 2.7.1 is. i have to install 10.10 python package so wifi radar will work. is this possible on 11.04
[22:55] <haux> I have an ASUS F1A75-M board with an AMD A8-3870K processor. I can't seem to find any temperature sensor program that will identify the board/cpu. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:55] <txdv> hello
[22:55] <[deXter]> haux, lm_sensors
[22:55] <haux> Doesn't work
[22:56] <haux> All it identifies is k10temp-pci-00c3
[22:56] <acerimmer> Raymond_: couldn't say as I only use LTS release.  Sorry.
[22:56] <[deXter]> haux, acpi
[22:56] <[deXter]> command is "acpi -V"
[22:57] <haux> I will try it.
[22:57] <haux> There is a program called Psensor that identifies my ssd, but that was about as far as i could get
[22:58] <Raymond_> acerimmer, is it possible to overwrite 2.7.1 with 2.6.6
[22:58] <acerimmer> Raymond_: sorry, IDK.  ask the channel again in a few minutes.
[22:58] <haux> What's that website where I can paste an output to link here in the chat?
[22:58] <Syph3r> i think theirs a #python channel
[22:58] <acerimmer> !paste|haux
[22:58] <Cocorico> hmmm, i have a major issue with my network. apparently it's fixed in kernel 3.1.
[22:59] <Cocorico> is there a way to use that easily in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:59] <haux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/813673/
[22:59] <[deXter]> Cocorico, Search for Ubuntu Mainline Kernel
[22:59] <Cocorico> thanks
[23:00] <[deXter]> Raymond_, sure but you have to manually download those packages
[23:01] <haux> [deXter], any other suggestions?
[23:01] <[deXter]> Raymond_, but I wouldn't recommend it as you may break other packages in your system that depends on it
[23:01] <Raymond_> ljl, is it possible to overwrite python 2.7.1 with python 2.6.6....... 2.7.1 is used in 11.04 which i am using, 2.6.6 is used for 10.10.
[23:01] <[deXter]> haux, Nope not really.. except for file a bug/feature report on the lm_sensors proejct page to add support for your board
[23:02] <haux> Alright, thanks.
[23:02] <explodingpiglets> a bit of help here. I downloaded the dual-boot version of ubuntu
[23:02] <explodingpiglets> how do I switch back to windows?
[23:02] <LjL> Raymond_: it doesn't seem like a good idea at the very least
[23:02] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: dual boot version?  no such thing.  Maybe you mean you installed ubuntu via the wubi method?
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> yea
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> wait a second....
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> did that erase the windows os?
[23:03] <txdv> a
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> acerimmer?
[23:03] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: did ubuntu erase windows?  no.
[23:03] <explodingpiglets> oh ok
[23:04] <explodingpiglets> well, how do I switch back to windows?
[23:04] <acerimmer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_AuaF3-wvo
[23:04] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: ignore that.  sorry
[23:04] <txdv> hello
[23:04] <explodingpiglets> ok
[23:05] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#Uninstallation
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> I was under the impression that I could use both ubuntu and windows without having to delete one
[23:05] <LjL> explodingpiglets: correct impression
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> then how do I go back to running windows?
[23:05] <LjL> explodingpiglets: so did you install with Wubi, or with the standard CD?
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> wubi
[23:05] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: true. maybe explain exactly what you want bcz wubi does = dual boot
[23:05] <explodingpiglets> I want to run both of them at the same time
[23:06] <LjL> explodingpiglets: i'm not familiar with Wubi but i believe you should have an option at boot time
[23:06] <LjL> explodingpiglets: uh you can't run them both *at the same time*
[23:06] <[deXter]> explodingpiglets, Unless of course you install Ubuntu in a virtual machine inside windows
[23:06] <zykotick9> LjL: wubi = fail, that's all you need to know ;)
[23:06] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: what dexter said
[23:06] <explodingpiglets> i don't have vmware
[23:06] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: virtual box is free
[23:07] <acerimmer> runs on windows/osx/ubuntu
[23:07] <explodingpiglets> ok
[23:07] <LjL> yeah but it's not really like he can run his *existing* Windows installation in VirtualBox [without a lot of trouble]
[23:07] <acerimmer> explodingpiglets: some things to consider.  the absolutely "safest" way to run ubuntu and keep windows is to do a live boot from cdrom or usb
[23:08] <Guinness2702> LjL, He could run ubuntu in virtual box in his existing windows ;)
[23:08] <acerimmer> seems he left already...
[23:09] <acovrig> How do I fix a grub 17 error (I tried google, and nothing has worked so far)
[23:09] <acerimmer> acovrig: describe your installation/hardware...
[23:10] <urlin2u> acovrig, you have any details leading to this
[23:11] <hypeBoy> hi, can can i make the text cursor blink faster in text editing apps?
[23:11] <acovrig> fresh kubuntu install; 2 80GB HDD (/dev/sd{a,b}); sda=1Linux partition; sdb=1Linux partiton,1Swap (boot drive, sda is storage)
[23:11] <[deXter]> acerimmer, is it a dell computer?
[23:12] <t8xic8> yo
[23:12] <acovrig> I think I am using a new(er) version of grub, and the system is looking for an older version
[23:12] <Guinness2702> acovrig, http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[23:12] <acerimmer> acovrig: what version of kuntu and why do you suspect older/new grub issue?
[23:13] <urlin2u> acovrig, what release?
[23:13] <sn00p> Hello, I just switched to XFCE under ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason my alt tab function is not working can anybody help me?
[23:13] <almoxarife> "wubi=fail" is just fine and polite conversation here (btw, i dont think it is, i used it, its got its quirks), god help the passing opinion on unity though, wubi is sold by conical, it works!
[23:14] <acovrig> urlin2u, acerimmer: 11.10 oneiric
[23:14] <acovrig> acerimmer: Because `grub' -> command not found...
[23:14] <urlin2u> acovrig, your OS would only look for grub legacy if you had installed it.
[23:14] <almoxarife> acovrig: using wubi?
[23:14] <urlin2u> !grub | acovrig
[23:15] <acovrig> almoxarife: no
[23:16] <acovrig> as per the guide (Guinness2702), /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist, isn't this for an older version of grub?
[23:16] <acerimmer> acovrig:  http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId232162
[23:18] <urlin2u> acovrig, you have the 11.1o cd?
[23:18] <urlin2u> 11.10
[23:18] <acovrig> urlin2u: I'm in a recovery shell chrooted into my hdd from the live cd, yes
[23:18] <htmlinprogress> acovrig,  is it grub 1 or 2?
[23:19] <mister2> hey guys, i got a question. i have no usb device to boot from, my dvd burner isn't functioning (yay windows.) and i'd like to boot a live cd. Anybody know how to do that from HDD? i have a windows bootloader right now, and i'm not sure how feasible grub installation is. any thoughts?
[23:20] <urlin2u> acovrig, cool the link acerimmer gave should work here is the grub wiki as well in the chroot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[23:20] <acovrig> htmlinprogress: I think it is trying to be a hybrid, and thats where my problem is, I have stage1, yet I also have grub.cfg
[23:20] <htmlinprogress> google both
[23:20] <urlin2u> acovrig, you can purge all of grub from there and reload grub 2 as well.
[23:21] <acovrig> urlin2u: I take it thats `rm -R /boot/grub; grub-install <device>'
[23:21] <zykotick9> acovrig: "apt-cache policy grub-pc" might tell you what version you have.
[23:21] <yaboo> hi, bought a laptop, installed win 7 on the first 50gb,trying to install 11.10 desktop and during install it does not detect the win 7 install
[23:21] <yaboo> what have I done wrong please
[23:22] <acerimmer> yaboo: you mean it doesn't see the  win 7 parition??
[23:22] <acovrig> urlin2u: I have grub 1.99-12ubuntu5
[23:22] <zykotick9> acovrig: that's grub2 btw
[23:22] <yaboo> acerimmer, yes it does not see the win 7 parttiion
[23:22] <urlin2u> acovrig, I faerly rm I would run apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common then apt-get install grub-pc grub common   the when asked where grub goes put it in the mbr
[23:22] <urlin2u> rarely*
[23:23] <acerimmer> yaboo:  you installed win7 first??
[23:23] <yaboo> acerimmer, yes I did, hdd a 500gb, and win 7 is the first 50gb parttition
[23:23] <urlin2u> acovrig, I would only purge if your sure you have grub legacy mixed, but if you do the purge correct you wont break anything
[23:23] <phong_> is there a way not to let ubuntu going to sleep mode?
[23:23] <acerimmer> yaboo: pastebin a screen shot
[23:24] <phong_> i hate to enter password after screen out
[23:24] <acovrig> urlin2u: I would probably do a mv instead of a rm anyway just in case I wanted to come back to what I had
[23:24] <acerimmer> yaboo: also you did md5 check that ubuntu or is it a canonical cdrom?
[23:24] <phong_> can someone tell me how to turn off screen always stay on?
[23:24] <yaboo> acerimmer, let me fire up the laptop and work how to do that
[23:24] <stoic> Done everything i can think of and read about to get flash player working on firefox 3.5 and firefox 9 in xubuntu and i have nothing, extrememly frustrating when not one suggestion ive read about works
[23:24] <Guinness2702> phong_, look at power management settings and screensave settings
[23:24] <acerimmer> !paste|yaboo
[23:24] <hilary> Hi all. We cannot enter a password at the Ubuntu login screen. Both the computer keyboard and the on-screen accessibility keyboard are unable to enter characters in the password field. What could be a cause?
[23:24] <phong_> Guinness2702, you meant the power supply?
[23:25] <stoic> can anyone help ? ive manually moved libflashplayer.so to the plugins folder, tried flash aid, tried alternate plugins, enabled repositories where its supposed to be and anytime i try to apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree or install adobe-flashplayer i get nothing
[23:25] <Guinness2702> phong_, now, "power management" it used to be off System->Preferences->Power Management, but I don't know how the unity interface does it
[23:25] <phong_> i got it
[23:25] <phong_> thanks
[23:26] <Guinness2702> phong_, but the password thing I think is done off screensaver settings
[23:26] <Guinness2702> phong_, look at *both* :)
[23:26] <phong_> Guinness2702, i got it man
[23:27] <phong_> Guinness2702, did u know megaupload was down?
[23:27] <phong_> shut down
[23:27] <stoic> I dont know if its significant but im on an imac g4 ppc with xubuntu 2.6.32-37-powerpc
[23:27] <acovrig> urlin2u: GRUB Loading stage1.5, then GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17
[23:27] <Guinness2702> phong_, I had heard
[23:27] <phong_> Guinness2702, i'm sure all other file sharing company eventually fuked up
[23:28] <urlin2u> acovrig, that is after reloading the mbr, did you run a purge and reinstall, and set grub to the mbr?
[23:28] <phong_> Guinness2702, i dont undersand why youtube has not been shut down? people post illegal stuffs too
[23:28] <Cocorico> So i'm trying to install a mainline kernel to fixe my network problem... but i've no idea if i should take the -pae kernel or the normal one... which is similar to the "normal" kernel?
[23:28] <urlin2u> acovrig, you have another OS on the computer
[23:28] <hilary> Why would we not be able to enter text into the password field on the login page?
[23:28] <phong_> Guinness2702, is it because youtube is own by american ?
[23:29] <acerimmer> !offtopic|phong
[23:29] <acovrig> urlin2u: I did the purge, install, it asked where I wanted to install it, I chose the hdd (not the partition); I don't have another OS, but another drive (storage, non-boot)
[23:29] <zykotick9> Cocorico: if you have more then 4GB ram consider PAE, if less I'd to 486/686 whatever is available.
[23:29] <Guinness2702> phong_, I don't know the details, but youtube, i believe, will remove copyrighted content when asked - don't know anythign about megaupload, but anyway, this is offtopic
[23:29] <zykotick9> Cocorico: s/to/go/
[23:29] <Cocorico> there is without -pae or with -pae... i have 8GB of ram, is the default kernel in ubuntu pae?
[23:30] <zykotick9> Cocorico: i believe so
[23:30] <Cocorico> ok, thanks
[23:30] <urlin2u> acovrig, since you can boot the cd run the bootscript and pastebin the results.txt.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[23:30] <zykotick9> Cocorico: PAE allows more then 4GB memory to be used by system (BUT, it's a hack - and slows the entire system down, a little bit)
[23:30] <Cocorico> btw, is there no 64 bit version of the OS for intel processors?
[23:31] <zykotick9> Cocorico: amd64 is for intel too.
[23:31] <Cocorico> i only saw i386 vs amd64 when choosing what to download
[23:31] <t8xic8> which os ?
[23:31] <Cocorico> oh.
[23:31] <Cocorico> i see.
[23:31] <Cocorico> i took the wrong one then :-)
[23:31] <ITJogger> =)
[23:31] <urlin2u> acovrig, it may give you the info you need so post if needed it is a what is where readout very helpful.
[23:31] <t8xic8> which os r u talking about ?
[23:32] <Cocorico> well, i heard 32 bit was more stable, so let's call it a deliberate choice.
[23:32] <zykotick9> Cocorico: is you "really" want to use that 8GB of RAM you should use amd64 (but 32 bit is "easier")
[23:32] <t8xic8> haha g4 ppc cpu i have one of those
[23:33] <t8xic8> powermac g4
[23:33] <acovrig> urlin2u: when I booted into the rescue mode this time the OS is at /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sdb1
[23:33] <Cocorico> yeah i should have used the "normal" ubuntu website, it's much clearer than on xubuntu :p
[23:33] <Guinness2702> Cocorico, I use 64bit AMD with 8GB of ram, and I never have problems
[23:34] <urlin2u> acovrig, always run a fdisk -l to make sure your know whats up when booting with a thumb the drives can get reversed.
[23:34] <zykotick9> acovrig: the reason you should use UUIDs or LABELs in fstab
[23:34] <acovrig> zykotick9: I do, I've known to do this for quite some time now
[23:35] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, why is 32-bit easlier?  I use 64 without problem
[23:36] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: it's more a historic "easier" these days, getting better all the time (but there are still some issues)
[23:37] <Ben64> i haven't had an issue with 64bit for years
[23:37] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: zsnes is an example ;)
[23:38] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, ahh, right, yeah, I remember now - used to be the case that not a lot of things were compiled for 64-bit right??
[23:38] <scientes_> how do i remoun t my root ro, so i can copy it to another filesystem?
[23:38] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: they still aren't...
[23:39] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, I don't use zsnes...in fact, I don't use a hell of a lot, but I've never failed to get something I want for 64 bit
[23:39] <Guinness2702> scientes_, look at the remount option of mount
[23:39] <scientes_> with cp -ax * /foo
[23:39] <scientes_> Guinness2702, i used mount -t ext4 -o remount,ro /
[23:39] <scientes_>  but it didn't work
[23:39] <zykotick9> Guinness2702: i've used amd64 for years successfully, but "sometimes" it's more work then 32bit
[23:40] <Ben64> that was 5 years ago
[23:40] <scientes_> mount -o remount,ro /
[23:40] <scientes_> mount: / is busy
[23:40] <Guinness2702> zykotick9, well either you're unlucky or I'm lucky :)
[23:40] <scientes_> ahh shii
[23:40] <Guinness2702> scientes_, yeah, I wasn't sure if you would be able to do that
[23:40] <scientes_> Guinness2702, would it be bad if i did it with the sysrq key?
[23:41] <Ben64> scientes_: boot livecd, copy from that?
[23:41] <Guinness2702> scientes_, I don't know what one of those is, but it sounds it
[23:41] <scientes_> Guinness2702, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[23:41] <acovrig> !paste
[23:42] <scientes_> think it would work with the ro mount?
[23:42] <krozzi> Hello, has anyone installed mediatomb on an a ubuntu server?
[23:42] <Ben64> scientes_: why not use livecd
[23:42] <Guinness2702> scientes_, yeah, if you've got anything running that expects to be able to write to disk and it suddenly finds its stream has become RO, it may screw things up big - especially if something is in the middle of a write
[23:42] <scientes_> *without
[23:43] <acovrig> urlin2u: http://paste.ubuntu.com/813727/ is from the bootinfoscript
[23:43] <silvertip257> One of my machines (10.04) has Xorg go haywire and the monitor remains black after being idle/powersave.  Seemingly similar to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze
[23:43] <yaboo> acerimmer, how do I take a screenshot
[23:43] <_mike_> If i wanted to leave windows, what is an alternative to Outlook
[23:43] <Guinness2702> scientes_, why can't you just boot off a cd and do the copy?
[23:43] <urgodfather>  can someone help me fix suspend/hibernate? im using 11.10 on a hp tc1100
[23:44] <Ben64> _mike_: thunderbird
[23:44] <krozzi> thunderbird is a good alternative
[23:44] <acovrig> _mike_: thunderbird
[23:44] <urgodfather> yeah ^^
[23:44] <t8xic8> hey
[23:44] <Guinness2702> _mike you may find problems if your mailserver is Exchange
[23:44] <t8xic8> thunderbird is coo
[23:44] <acerimmer> yaboo: applications>accessories>take screenshot
[23:45] <Guinness2702> _mike_, but if it's standard POP or IMAP, you'll be fine
[23:45] <krozzi> does anyone have experience installing mediatomb on an ubuntu server
[23:45] <silvertip257> Alt + PrintScreen on keyboard > yaboo
[23:45] <Ben64> krozzi: whats your question
[23:45] <_mike_> ok thanks
[23:45] <silvertip257> or just PrintScreen for the whole desktop > yaboo
[23:46] <yaboo> silvertip257, thanks
[23:46] <yaboo> acerimmer, ok,where do I post the image too
[23:46] <urgodfather>  can someone help me fix suspend/hibernate? im using 11.10 on a hp tc1100??
[23:46] <acovrig> !paste | yahoo
[23:46] <krozzi> I am thinking about installingit on my ubuntu server and wanted to know if its straight forward or if it requires alot of work
[23:46] <Explodingpiglets> does anybody here have experience with virtualbox?
[23:46] <Guinness2702> urgodfather, you need to explain what the problem is first
[23:46] <Guinness2702> Explodingpiglets, probably, yes
[23:46] <zykotick9> _mike_: mutt (just joking, it's a cli program, but amazing)
[23:47] <mister2> howdy folks, is there any way to boot an iso image (or its contents) from grub off of a hard drive?
[23:47] <acerimmer> Explodingpiglets: yes.  talk
[23:47] <Ben64> krozzi: its in the repositories, will work fine
[23:47] <t8xic8> irc
[23:47] <urlin2u> acovrig, as I thought you have grub legacy in the sdb drive make sure your booting the sda
[23:47] <t8xic8> ppc is the best
[23:47] <t8xic8> !!
[23:47] <urgodfather> Guinness2702, it fails to hibernate and cannot return from suspend
[23:48] <yaboo> acerimmer, imagebin.org/194976
[23:48] <Guinness2702> mister2, I believe grub might do this - google for "grub boot iso" or similar
[23:48] <krozzi> Ben64: will it serve up ISO's?
[23:48] <Ben64> krozzi: mediatomb is for media, not disc images
[23:48] <mister2> guiness2702 i was hoping for a link... satellite internet is definitely not conductive to trying to find information
[23:49] <acerimmer> yaboo: and you completely installed win7
[23:49] <BabyGirl> is there a ppa for adobe flash player to keep up to date ?
[23:49] <yaboo> acerimmer, how else would I have, it boots win7, just installed drivers or updates
[23:50] <urlin2u> acovrig, at least make sure your booting the HD with ubuntu.
[23:50] <krozzi> Ben64: I figured that was the case. Do you know of any CLI programs that I might have run and convert the images?
[23:50] <szal> BabyGirl: if using Firefox, use the FlashAid plugin, that'll alert you in case of an update
[23:50] <Ben64> krozzi: from what... to what
[23:50] <acerimmer> yaboo: that's what I was asking.
[23:50] <acovrig> urlin2u: wow, all that work and frustration, all I had to do was switch the HDDs in the boot order of the BIOS, and it boots just find :|
[23:50] <yaboo> acerimmer, why do I need to do more
[23:50] <krozzi> Ben64: From ISO to something mediatomb can use like mpge4 or MKV
[23:51] <yaboo> for win7 to be seen
[23:51] <Ben64> krozzi: you can mount isos
[23:51] <acerimmer> yaboo: researching now...
[23:51] <urlin2u> acovrig, I would call this a aha moment eh. :)
[23:51] <acerimmer> yaboo: by the numbers then.  first, did you md5 check the ubuntu so we know it's a good .iso?
[23:51] <Guinness2702> mister2, - your internet can't handle a couple of web pages?
[23:51] <yaboo> acerimmer, I installed in7 via usb dvd, and left it at straight install
[23:52] <acovrig> urlin2u: yup, like when you can't find the phone, thats in your hand sorta thing
[23:52] <yaboo> acerimmer, yes I have done a md5 check
[23:52] <urlin2u> acovrig, that bootscript is your best tool around to see what is going on.
[23:52] <BabyGirl> szal,is not on sypnatic :(
[23:52] <yaboo> I have used the same usb key install on another machine and it worked
[23:52] <mister2> guiness2702 try 5-20 kbps and see how you like it :P i'm looking around now, but it's been taking a while so i thought i'd ask on here again
[23:52] <szal> BabyGirl: no, but in Firefox
[23:52] <yaboo> also it worked as a straight install with no win7
[23:52] <krozzi> Ben64: I know I can mount it but I have about 7TB's of images I would like to be able to script something to convert 1 ISO at a time and dump it into a new dir.
[23:52] <yaboo> acerimmer, so I'm assuming there is something with win7
[23:53] <Ben64> krozzi: you can't convert isos because it is an image, not a format for media
[23:53] <acerimmer> yaboo: don't assume that.  run sudo fdisk -lu plz.  I'm looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/85833/installer-doesnt-detect-existing-partition-table-windows-7-partition
[23:53] <acerimmer> sudo fdisk -lu
[23:53] <Guinness2702> mister2, ouch, sympathy..... how the hell did you get an ISO over that?
[23:54] <acovrig> If I run sudo it asks for my passowrd, can I make it ask for root's passowrd (like su does)
[23:54] <pnorman> !root
[23:54] <mister2> well at night i get anywhere from 20-40 on a good downlaod. i can get about a gig in 8 hours via torrent, http downloads i got 1.6 last night
[23:54] <krozzi> Ben64: I figured as much as well. Just going to be alot of work to re-rip everything and convert it manually
[23:54] <urgodfather> anyone?
[23:54] <szal> urgodfather: anyone what?
[23:54] <mister2> guiness2702, but yeah, it's no fun
[23:55] <yaboo> acerimmer, ok done the fdisk and sees the win7 partition but as a w95  fat32 (LBA), thought odd,should be ntfs
[23:55] <krozzi> Ben64: I appreciate the help, I have to run for now. Have a good one
[23:55] <zykotick9> urgodfather: is your swap partition larger then your physical memory?
[23:55] <acerimmer> yaboo: paste a pic
[23:55] <urgodfather> zykotick9 yes
[23:55] <Guinness2702> mister2, okay, well I did a quick google - this sounds like it might help http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[23:56] <zykotick9> urgodfather: ok, just checking.  suspend/hibernate can be a pain.  good luck.
[23:56] <mister2> guiness2702 awesome! i'll let you know in a bit if it looks like it'll work and when i start to try it
[23:56] <hoppipoIIa> There are good tutorials for making suspending and hybernate working  :)
[23:57] <yaboo> acerimmer, imagebin.org/194977
[23:57] <fil> hello... question about transmission.. i added a ppa from their site in order to get a newer version.. now i want to uninstall it.. i did apt-remove --purge transmission,  then autoclean... which transmission returns nothing, yet it is still in menu and if clicked still works... any suggestions
[23:57] <fil> ?
[23:57] <urgodfather> zykotick9, theres a workaround for earlier versions but im not that familiar with differences that have been changed from then to now
[23:57] <Guinness2702> mister2, past my bedtime, I won't be here that long ;)
[23:58] <acerimmer> yaboo: looks like part of that got cut off at the top - the line about GPT.  Precisely the error the guy had http://askubuntu.com/questions/85833/installer-doesnt-detect-existing-partition-table-windows-7-partition
[23:58] <urlin2u> yaboo, paste the whole url
[23:58] <mister2> guiness2702 looks perfect! i think i'll have to grab an ubuntu machine to test it on before i screw up the main windows (ugh) machine
[23:58] <Guinness2702> mister2, have fun
[23:58] <urlin2u> yaboo, sorry I got it
[23:58] <AsSaSsIn> ciao
[23:59] <acovrig> what is the keyboard shortcut to select all in konsole?
[23:59] <urlin2u> yaboo, you have a wubi install
[23:59] <mivulf> Hello guys.
[23:59] <yaboo> urlin2u, wubi?
[23:59] <urlin2u> yaboo, you installed ubuntu from windows right?