knome | i've been busy with money-making job, but i'm available | 00:00 |
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knome | if you ever need something, just ping me | 00:00 |
len | ScottL: todays (jan21) iso has the old ffmpeg extra problem. Possibly introduced by the live stuff. I'm thinking the "slide show". | 00:09 |
len | So install fails | 00:10 |
ailo | It's Gnome3 thing - choosing which file manager manages the desktop | 02:08 |
ailo | It's also possible to have no file manager managing the desktop, if you want | 02:08 |
* micahg is fixing the libav-extra issue | 02:57 | |
ailo | Would be great if jackd2 1.9.8 wound up in the repo.. | 04:43 |
len | Download and install 12.04 US for today jan21 (here still) | 04:50 |
len | Found some interesting things. I don't like the kernel... it panics when I insert my sd card in it's slot... the same sd is fine through a usb converter. | 04:51 |
len | the same sd is fine with xubuntu 11.10. I tried to install with the sd in the sd slot... booted fine but then could not "find" the "cd". | 04:53 |
len | I took the sd out plugged it into the usb adaptor and it was fine. Under xubuntu 11.10 They both put out the same logging in dmesg. | 04:55 |
micahg | len: let's wait for jackd2 to migrate to testing first | 04:57 |
len | This is still a generic kernel | 04:58 |
len | I will have to bug report anyway. | 04:58 |
len | The install failed after setting all workflows for install because of ffmpeg extra confict again. | 05:00 |
micahg | yeah, I just uploaded it 2 hours ago, it should be in the 22nd ISOs | 05:00 |
len | So I just installed art and audio plugins and got through ok.... | 05:01 |
len | Just uploaded what? Kernel or ffmpeg fix | 05:01 |
micahg | ffmpeg | 05:02 |
micahg | there's a 3.2.0-10 kernel for precise now as well though | 05:02 |
len | OK. Has the kernel got put in the seeds/metas yet? | 05:03 |
len | Is the lowlat kernal built on the same source as the generic? | 05:03 |
micahg | lowlatency isn't in the archive yet | 05:03 |
len | might be a good thing I tested with this one so we know it is not the lowlat that is causing it. | 05:04 |
len | Once I got it going I ran synaptic to install the metas I missed. | 05:08 |
len | they all selected fine (promised to uninstall the non-extras) until I got to the video meta. | 05:10 |
len | synaptic would not let me select the video meta because of a dep on ffmpeg... which, it said "would not be installed". | 05:12 |
len | So I tried to select ffmpeg... no joy it had a dep of an av* that was not to be installed... | 05:13 |
ailo | The idea with -lowlatency is that it is built from exactly the same source as -generic, except it has a slightly different configuration | 05:16 |
ailo | Now, there is a difference between the current -lowlatency, and the current -generic however | 05:17 |
ailo | The have different versions I believe | 05:17 |
len | I'll file the bug against the kernel I have here. | 05:18 |
len | The video meta seems to be bad. | 05:19 |
len | ubuntustudio-video: | 05:19 |
len | Depends: ffmpeg but it is not going to be installed | 05:19 |
len | Depends: openshot but it is not going to be installed | 05:19 |
micahg | len: please wait tomorrow to try the video | 05:23 |
len | /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop is still missing (link) | 05:24 |
micahg | is it not working now? | 05:24 |
len | I put it in manually | 05:24 |
len | I will try video again tomorrow. | 05:25 |
len | The install should work if the extras have been fixed. | 05:27 |
len | Ok, looks like the av stuff is in the middle of an upgrade. Some are done and others not. | 05:32 |
len | The two packages that won't install require 4:0.8, but we have 4:0.7 | 05:33 |
craigs63 | hi kids, meeting here in 40 minutes? | 16:20 |
astraljava | Not here, but on #ubuntu-meeting. | 16:23 |
astraljava | ScottL: holstein: Up for chairing? I'm a little distracted here. | 16:24 |
craigs63 | thanks | 16:24 |
holstein | astraljava: i should be home by then, and i should have time to chair | 16:25 |
astraljava | Thanks Mike! | 16:25 |
holstein | i might be a bit late | 16:53 |
holstein | running home now | 16:53 |
holstein | OK | 17:01 |
holstein | not bad... one minute late :) | 17:01 |
ailo | I just tried out mudita24 | 17:40 |
ailo | Only the levels, I/O and the meters | 17:40 |
ailo | The app is pretty basic | 17:40 |
ailo | Don't forsee any problems with it | 17:41 |
holstein | cool | 17:41 |
holstein | craigs63: thanks for attending | 17:42 |
astraljava | ailo: len: Give it a few more runs, and prepare to report your findings in the next meeting. Ok? | 17:42 |
astraljava | I'm fairly confident it runs well, so we could do it in the next informal meeting a week from now, it's not that big a deal. | 17:45 |
astraljava | But since it's not a "stable" release from the upstream, I also don't wanna get it synced just like that. | 17:45 |
ailo | astraljava: IT won't crash anyway. The questions is whether all the controls are doing what they are supposed, but I would think they do, since the changes were more of a superficial nature | 17:48 |
ailo | There is some oddity in how the volume controls are drawn | 17:48 |
ailo | But, it makes no difference | 17:48 |
ailo | It all seems to work normally | 17:49 |
holstein | i just copied https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012February5 over from todays agenda and edited times | 17:50 |
holstein | if you guys want to "have at it" | 17:50 |
astraljava | holstein: Thanks! I can edit it for actions and stuff. | 17:56 |
holstein | astraljava: thanks... i dont mind chewing away at some of it too.. im just doing the broad strokes before i need to run out the door | 17:57 |
astraljava | Sure thing. | 17:58 |
ailo | I'm going to sleep, at 7pm. | 17:58 |
ailo | See you guys around | 17:59 |
holstein | astraljava: i think todays page looks good | 18:07 |
holstein | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22 | 18:07 |
holstein | if you want to go ahead and focus on the next meetings' page | 18:07 |
holstein | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012February5 | 18:07 |
holstein | couldnt decide if it should be 5 or 05 ..whatever | 18:08 |
ScottL | jeez, sorry for missing the meeting | 18:50 |
ScottL | wife is out of town and i'm a little distracted with the two boys | 18:51 |
ScottL | and completely missed that it was past 10:00 already | 18:52 |
astraljava | No worries Scott. :) | 18:53 |
ScottL | i feel bad because it's become routine for me to miss the meeting | 18:55 |
ScottL | i rely on google calendar for reminders but i'm not always by a computer or with my phone | 18:55 |
ScottL | when home i routinely put my phone on my dresser in the bedroom and only pick it up if we go out | 18:56 |
astraljava | It's not that big a deal, really. We can work out the issues at other times. And we should, too. For instance the tasks tracking etc. | 18:57 |
ScottL | i think i might buy a cheap alarm clock and put it somewhere cental that will go off on sundays | 18:57 |
astraljava | So it really isn't an issue if one of us misses a meeting or three. | 18:57 |
ScottL | but it's not like the meeting is not friendly to my time zone, i'm available and practically always at the house during those times | 19:00 |
ScottL | i just need a better system to remind myself about the meeting | 19:00 |
ScottL | is anyone interested in being a 3rd maintainer for the lowlatency kernel? this would basically be a fail-over position in case abogani or i were no longer available? | 20:25 |
ScottL | i will also be creating a lowlatency kernel team under ubuntu studio, the three persons would be on this team | 20:26 |
ScottL | TheMuso, can i have your advice about how to properly include sane, default jack settings? | 20:26 |
ScottL | TheMuso, we have the settings and i have been told that i can place them in the /skel directory to be included into a user's home directory | 20:27 |
ScottL | TheMuso, my concern is about whether they should be included in the -default-settings package or create another binary from within the -default-settings source code | 20:27 |
ScottL | TheMuso, i am leaning to creating another binary for this because this would limit people's access to isntalling something into their /home directory unecessarily or unintentionally | 20:28 |
micahg | if they're defaults, why aren't they set on the system level instead of a per-user basis? | 20:56 |
ScottL | micahg, i believe that jack only sets it's setting in the user's home directory, i don't know if it can be set like you are describing but i think that is a good idea if possible | 21:02 |
micahg | you might want to talk to the Debian multimedia team (#debian-multimedia on OFTC) | 21:03 |
ScottL | i.e. have a default system setting, but if the user adjusts it then it gets set in the /home directory then and jack always checks for the existance of the /home directory settings first and uses the system setting otherwise | 21:03 |
ScottL | micahg, i will do that | 21:03 |
astraljava | ScottL: I can be the third maintainer, sure. | 21:57 |
ScottL | astraljava, sweet! i'll make the team later this evening :) | 22:02 |
ScottL | (and i can mark the blueprint as "DONE" on two more items) | 22:02 |
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