[00:00] i've been busy with money-making job, but i'm available [00:00] if you ever need something, just ping me [00:09] ScottL: todays (jan21) iso has the old ffmpeg extra problem. Possibly introduced by the live stuff. I'm thinking the "slide show". [00:10] So install fails [02:08] It's Gnome3 thing - choosing which file manager manages the desktop [02:08] It's also possible to have no file manager managing the desktop, if you want [02:57] * micahg is fixing the libav-extra issue [04:43] Would be great if jackd2 1.9.8 wound up in the repo.. [04:50] Download and install 12.04 US for today jan21 (here still) [04:51] Found some interesting things. I don't like the kernel... it panics when I insert my sd card in it's slot... the same sd is fine through a usb converter. [04:53] the same sd is fine with xubuntu 11.10. I tried to install with the sd in the sd slot... booted fine but then could not "find" the "cd". [04:55] I took the sd out plugged it into the usb adaptor and it was fine. Under xubuntu 11.10 They both put out the same logging in dmesg. [04:57] len: let's wait for jackd2 to migrate to testing first [04:58] This is still a generic kernel [04:58] I will have to bug report anyway. [05:00] The install failed after setting all workflows for install because of ffmpeg extra confict again. [05:00] yeah, I just uploaded it 2 hours ago, it should be in the 22nd ISOs [05:01] So I just installed art and audio plugins and got through ok.... [05:01] Just uploaded what? Kernel or ffmpeg fix [05:02] ffmpeg [05:02] there's a 3.2.0-10 kernel for precise now as well though [05:03] OK. Has the kernel got put in the seeds/metas yet? [05:03] Is the lowlat kernal built on the same source as the generic? [05:03] lowlatency isn't in the archive yet [05:04] might be a good thing I tested with this one so we know it is not the lowlat that is causing it. [05:08] Once I got it going I ran synaptic to install the metas I missed. [05:10] they all selected fine (promised to uninstall the non-extras) until I got to the video meta. [05:12] synaptic would not let me select the video meta because of a dep on ffmpeg... which, it said "would not be installed". [05:13] So I tried to select ffmpeg... no joy it had a dep of an av* that was not to be installed... [05:16] The idea with -lowlatency is that it is built from exactly the same source as -generic, except it has a slightly different configuration [05:17] Now, there is a difference between the current -lowlatency, and the current -generic however [05:17] The have different versions I believe [05:18] I'll file the bug against the kernel I have here. [05:19] The video meta seems to be bad. [05:19] ubuntustudio-video: [05:19] Depends: ffmpeg but it is not going to be installed [05:19] Depends: openshot but it is not going to be installed [05:23] len: please wait tomorrow to try the video [05:24] /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop is still missing (link) [05:24] is it not working now? [05:24] I put it in manually [05:25] I will try video again tomorrow. [05:27] The install should work if the extras have been fixed. [05:32] Ok, looks like the av stuff is in the middle of an upgrade. Some are done and others not. [05:33] The two packages that won't install require 4:0.8, but we have 4:0.7 [16:20] hi kids, meeting here in 40 minutes? [16:23] Not here, but on #ubuntu-meeting. [16:24] ScottL: holstein: Up for chairing? I'm a little distracted here. [16:24] thanks [16:25] astraljava: i should be home by then, and i should have time to chair [16:25] Thanks Mike! [16:53] i might be a bit late [16:53] running home now [17:01] OK [17:01] not bad... one minute late :) [17:40] I just tried out mudita24 [17:40] Only the levels, I/O and the meters [17:40] The app is pretty basic [17:41] Don't forsee any problems with it [17:41] cool [17:42] craigs63: thanks for attending [17:42] ailo: len: Give it a few more runs, and prepare to report your findings in the next meeting. Ok? [17:45] I'm fairly confident it runs well, so we could do it in the next informal meeting a week from now, it's not that big a deal. [17:45] But since it's not a "stable" release from the upstream, I also don't wanna get it synced just like that. [17:48] astraljava: IT won't crash anyway. The questions is whether all the controls are doing what they are supposed, but I would think they do, since the changes were more of a superficial nature [17:48] There is some oddity in how the volume controls are drawn [17:48] But, it makes no difference [17:49] It all seems to work normally [17:50] i just copied https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012February5 over from todays agenda and edited times [17:50] if you guys want to "have at it" [17:56] holstein: Thanks! I can edit it for actions and stuff. [17:57] astraljava: thanks... i dont mind chewing away at some of it too.. im just doing the broad strokes before i need to run out the door [17:58] Sure thing. [17:58] I'm going to sleep, at 7pm. [17:59] See you guys around [18:07] astraljava: i think todays page looks good [18:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22 [18:07] if you want to go ahead and focus on the next meetings' page [18:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012February5 [18:08] couldnt decide if it should be 5 or 05 ..whatever [18:50] jeez, sorry for missing the meeting [18:51] wife is out of town and i'm a little distracted with the two boys [18:52] and completely missed that it was past 10:00 already [18:53] No worries Scott. :) [18:55] i feel bad because it's become routine for me to miss the meeting [18:55] i rely on google calendar for reminders but i'm not always by a computer or with my phone [18:56] when home i routinely put my phone on my dresser in the bedroom and only pick it up if we go out [18:57] It's not that big a deal, really. We can work out the issues at other times. And we should, too. For instance the tasks tracking etc. [18:57] i think i might buy a cheap alarm clock and put it somewhere cental that will go off on sundays [18:57] So it really isn't an issue if one of us misses a meeting or three. [19:00] but it's not like the meeting is not friendly to my time zone, i'm available and practically always at the house during those times [19:00] i just need a better system to remind myself about the meeting [20:25] is anyone interested in being a 3rd maintainer for the lowlatency kernel? this would basically be a fail-over position in case abogani or i were no longer available? [20:26] i will also be creating a lowlatency kernel team under ubuntu studio, the three persons would be on this team [20:26] TheMuso, can i have your advice about how to properly include sane, default jack settings? [20:27] TheMuso, we have the settings and i have been told that i can place them in the /skel directory to be included into a user's home directory [20:27] TheMuso, my concern is about whether they should be included in the -default-settings package or create another binary from within the -default-settings source code [20:28] TheMuso, i am leaning to creating another binary for this because this would limit people's access to isntalling something into their /home directory unecessarily or unintentionally [20:56] if they're defaults, why aren't they set on the system level instead of a per-user basis? [21:02] micahg, i believe that jack only sets it's setting in the user's home directory, i don't know if it can be set like you are describing but i think that is a good idea if possible [21:03] you might want to talk to the Debian multimedia team (#debian-multimedia on OFTC) [21:03] i.e. have a default system setting, but if the user adjusts it then it gets set in the /home directory then and jack always checks for the existance of the /home directory settings first and uses the system setting otherwise [21:03] micahg, i will do that [21:57] ScottL: I can be the third maintainer, sure. [22:02] astraljava, sweet! i'll make the team later this evening :) [22:02] (and i can mark the blueprint as "DONE" on two more items)