[03:28] <blair> IIRC, we're a week away from Debian Import Freeze and maven3 with 3.0.4 just got into Debian yesterday, should i wait to open a sync request for 12.04?
[03:40] <blair> within the last two days, the login screen for precise no longer has the gear where one can pick a different window manager
[03:41] <trism> blair: it came back for me by selecting another user and then back to mine
[03:43] <blair> trism, thanks, that works, but it doesn't fix it permanently, a reboot will have the missing gear again
[03:50] <micahg> blair: we passed Debian Import Freeze already
[03:51] <trism> blair: yeah, may be worth a bug report, I don't see one and a quick look a the code and NEWS makes it seem unintentional
[03:52] <Essobi> blair: yea.. down arrow, and back up.
[03:52] <blair> trism, this would be reported against lightdm?
[03:53] <trism> blair: unity-greeter
[03:53] <blair> ok, thanks
[03:55] <blair> micahg, thanks, i'll make a sync request then
[04:03] <blair> opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/920283
[04:03] <snadge> haha seen that one
[04:03] <snadge> i thought it was a "feature"
[04:04] <blair> snadge, yeah, i was wondering if this was the way they would get everybody to use unity ;)
[04:04] <snadge> well if you select another user they suddenly appear
[04:04] <jokerdino> blair: should lightdm be tagged in the bug as well?
[04:05] <jokerdino> BTW, i confirmed the bug for you.
[04:05] <blair> jokerdino, thanks for confirming, i don't know, see above what trism said
[04:05] <snadge> now someone just needs to fix the switching workspace focus/right click bug ;)
[04:06] <snadge> smspillaz is aware of it thought.. thats good enough for me
[04:06] <jokerdino> snadge: what bug is that?
[04:07] <snadge> if you switch workspace to one which has firefox on it
[04:07] <snadge> and type in the location bar.. sometimes the autocomplete function doesnt work
[04:08] <snadge> also related to that.. when you right click.. the menu disappears as soon as you move the mouse over it
[04:08] <jokerdino> hmm
[04:08] <snadge> unless you click in the title bar to manually focus the app
[04:08] <jokerdino> the sloppy mouse focus not working properly kinda bug?
[04:08] <snadge> its apparently related to the workspace switching code.. some kind of race condition
[04:08] <snadge> because it doesn't always do it.. and its not easily reproduceable
[04:09] <jokerdino> i am not sure. i will see if i can notice it.
[04:09] <snadge> ive been noticing it for about 3 months now
[04:09] <snadge> on several different systems.. its pretty irritating
[04:09] <jokerdino> is it only limited to firefox or chrome included?
[04:10] <snadge> im not sure actually.. i dont use chrome
[04:10] <snadge> im assuming the problem would affect chrome too
[04:12] <snadge> its one of those problems that goes away when you try to figure it out
[04:12] <snadge> then when you give up.. it happens repeatedly
[05:45] <plustax> hello there. Can anyone tell me some good things you've noticed about 12.04 as opposed to 11.10 Im having trouble deciding whether I want to upgrade.
[09:47] <psypher246> hello all. Does anyone know under which package I should log multimonitor setup bugs?
[10:08] <Laibsch> My main system is still running lucid but I've been trying for a while to get a separate install of precise on a separate partition (only sharing boot).  That should be possible to dual-boot, right?
[10:09] <hifi> they would fight for kernels, I wouldn't recommend shared /boot
[10:09] <Laibsch> Problem is my HD is an encrypted LVM and it seems as if I can't get grub to cooperate.  Any grub experts around?
[10:09] <hifi> and grub's config
[10:09] <Laibsch> hifi: I don't see the problem.  I frequently install kernels from other releases for testing.
[10:10] <hifi> the config might be the biggest problem
[10:10] <Laibsch> OK, grub is a separate issue.  What do you suggest, then?  The current boot partition is the only one unencrypted.
[10:10] <hifi> they would share the same config file
[10:10] <hifi> well, if you want to keep it encrypted then just partition another /boot for the other installation?
[10:11] <hifi> and chainload the other grub or something
[10:11] <Laibsch> I'd be happy for now if I could get things to boot at all.  Even manually from the grub command line.  But I don't know grub enough for that.
[10:11] <hifi> I'm not the best one to tell you this though
[10:11] <hifi> I haven't used two separate installations together
[10:11] <hifi> on the same HD
[10:12] <Laibsch> alright, I hope I still have unpartitioned space in the unencrypted portion (ecryptfs is a bitch and undoing the encryption seems to be near impossible :-( )
[10:12] <hifi> chainloading a secodary grub from the /boot partition should be possible but I don't know if it's sane at all
[10:12] <Laibsch> do you have an example how to chainload a second grub?
[10:13] <hifi> I've only used it to boot windows
[10:14] <psypher246> hello all. Does anyone know under which package I should log multimonitor setup bugs?	
[10:15] <Laibsch> psypher246: most likely the driver of your video card
[10:15] <Laibsch> but depends on what type of multi-monitor problem.  unfortunately, there's still LOTs of them. :-/
[10:15] <psypher246> so nothing to do with all the new work being done to improve mutimoniotor setups?
[10:15] <Laibsch> hifi: can you share how you did that?
[10:16] <hifi> Laibsch: the default config has that option commented out
[10:16] <hifi> should at least
[10:16] <Laibsch> I'll have a look
[10:29] <psypher246> Laibsch: so even though I am running the nouveau driver but the multi display setup is being done by ubuntu "Displays" I must log the bug under the driver?
[10:30] <Laibsch> Must may be the wrong word
[10:30] <Laibsch> but you want to report against the package which most likely really has the bug, right?
[10:31] <Laibsch> you still haven't said what problem you are seeing, so it's impossible to help
[10:31] <psypher246> correct, i just womndered since all this new work is being done on this friont that there is a specific package for it
[10:31] <psypher246> ok the issue is that once I have setup duial monitors, randomly, or when watching fullscreen youtube the monitor setup will break and switch back to mirror
[10:32] <psypher246> setting the dual monitor up again break the launchbar, making it a lot shorter than that the resolution can handle
[10:36] <Laibsch> how long after setup? about 30 seconds?
[10:37] <psypher246> long can be hours or minutes
[10:37] <psypher246> totally random, sometimes it doesn't happen all day
[10:37] <psypher246> only time I can replicate is during fullscreen youtube, but it just happened to me when clicking on the messaging menu
[10:37] <psypher246> doesn't ALWAYS happen during youtube either
[11:05] <edgy> Hi, fdisk -cu is wrong in ubuntu but -c -u works, is this a new bug?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> hi all
[13:44] <coz_> hey guys.. ok installed precise,, nvidia settings work but secondary monitor does not turn on,, and reopening nvidia settings, it no longers lists the secondary monitor, and suggestions?
[13:44] <coz_> any suggestions I meant
[13:47] <meerkats> what does "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 9080 -j ACCEPT" do?
[13:59] <ikonia> meerkats: try #netfilter or #iptables for iptables discussion
[14:00] <meerkats> invite only?
[14:01] <pangolin> ## maybe
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[19:50] <Tixos> someone broke something
[19:50] <Tixos> unity no longer is possible to keep 'fixed' or 'active'
[19:51] <Tixos> tried myunity + CCSM, neither work anymore since updates in the past 2-3days
[19:53] <FernandoMiguel> what do you mean ?
[19:58] <Tixos> unity bar by default hides itself
[19:58] <Tixos> this is useless
[19:59] <Tixos> unless you want to add hours over a month to window switching with a mouse :)
[20:01] <Daekdroom> Tixos, use the keyboard shortcuts for window switching and you'll gain some seconds
[20:02] <Tixos> id rather just use the bar
[20:02] <Tixos> it worked fine since release
[20:02] <Tixos> broke today when i updated some packages
[20:08] <Tixos> why did i update..... everything seems slower, nobody here knows what was updated?
[23:28] <jtaylor> yey, new X is landing, hopefully break free, see mailing list