[00:00] <cjohnston> ok
[00:00] <jono> sorry for the delay
[00:00] <JanC> the ideas are interesting  ☺
[00:00] <cjohnston> yup
[00:00] <MrChrisDruif> True, I also like responding on AskUbuntu more then the fora, one of the reasons being the rewarding system
[00:00] <jono> JanC, :-)
[00:01] <JanC> ideas about this sort of thing have been around for a long time though, and the current "karma" on LP is part of it  ☺
[00:01] <jono> JanC, I agree, but I don't karma serves us well
[00:01] <jono> it only covers a small range of things, and is just a number
[00:01] <jono> I think people identify more with trophies
[00:01] <JanC> karma is okay for some subset of contributions
[00:02] <jono> JanC, agreed
[00:02] <JanC> well, *I* don't care about trophies  :P
[00:02] <jono> JanC, which is fine :-)
[00:02] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, but just "okay" isn't good enough in my humble opinion
[00:02] <jono> we wouldnt mandate this on Ubuntu users
[00:02] <jono> it could be an opt in system
[00:03] <JanC> I guess it could be one factor to consider to approve Ubuntu Membership too
[00:03] <JanC> as in, a positive factor
[00:03] <MrChrisDruif> Will it pull in previously gathered trophies?
[00:04] <MrChrisDruif> There are a few things mentioned I have already done in the past ;-)
[00:04] <JanC> MrChrisDruif: you mean, like askubuntu trophies?
[00:04] <MrChrisDruif> JanC; that too ;-)
[00:05] <MrChrisDruif> But also "Clicked a button" etc trophies
[00:06] <jono> MrChrisDruif, right now it would focus on the set of trophies defined here
[00:06] <jono> it could potentially be extended to pull in additional trophies too
[00:06] <jono> JanC, I agree - this could be a useful means of assessing membership
[00:06] <jono> the boards could evaluate a user's trophy cabinet
[00:06] <JanC> hm, you might even want to provide printed proof of those trophies
[00:07] <MrChrisDruif> jono; I understand, but I meant that a part of the set of trophies defined here I've already done
[00:07] <JanC> for people in countries where this is important
[00:09] <jono> JanC, I don't understand, why would you need to print it out?
[00:09] <JanC> http://river-valley.tv/how-to-get-contributors-to-your-freelibreopen-source-project-from-vietnam-and-asia/
[00:12] <jono> JanC, what page doesnt really indicate why you would need to print out content
[00:12] <jono> sorry, maybe I am just not seeing it :-)
[00:12] <jono> oh it is a video
[00:12] <JanC> it's something Hong Phuc Dang explains in that talk: people in (some) 3rd-world countries need (written) proof that their involvement in open source is not a waste of the money needed to let them attend university  ☺
[00:13] <jono> oh I see
[00:13] <jono> that makes sense
[00:14] <JanC> as in: they could be doing a job (and make money) or being involved in in open source (and get a "diploma" for it)
[00:14] <JanC> where "diploma" means something that can help you make more money later  ;)
[00:15] <JanC> jono: her talk is really interesting, and she has experiance with organising open source events & communities in Asia
[00:16] <jono> cool, I will check it out
[00:16] <jono> thanks for the link JanC :-)
[00:16] <JanC> I was at that talk, after all
[00:16] <JanC> and so was akk, I suppose
[00:17] <jono> cool
[00:17] <jono> brb
[00:17] <JanC> and maybe also some Canonical people  ;)
[01:15]  * MrChrisDruif is writing an application letter to a company in hopes to get a job and education
[01:17] <Martyn> ??
[01:17] <Martyn> Isn't it usuall you get education, and then a job?
[01:20] <MrChrisDruif> Martyn; here in Holland we've got something called a dual education. It means you get practical experience on the job and the theoretical information behind it on school
[01:22] <MrChrisDruif> So usually you would, but in this case I don't ^_^
[01:58] <Martyn> neat
[07:34] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[07:54] <jokerdino> good day.
[07:56] <bkerensa> good morning dholbach
[07:57] <dholbach> hey bkerensa, jokerdino
[07:59] <dholbach> if you all want to do me a favour, please grab a developer near you and ask if they want to give a session at UDW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable - I'm struggling a bit to get people on board this time
[08:04] <bkerensa> dholbach: Pinged two of the best developers I know :)
[08:04] <bkerensa> slangasek and kees :P
[08:04] <dpm> good morning all
[08:04] <dholbach> sweet
[08:04] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:04] <dpm> hallo dholbach
[13:25] <popey> dpm: seen people reporting redirect loop on the chinese tour?
[13:26] <dpm> popey, hm, no, I haven't. If it's happening, we should ping ant
[13:26] <dpm> let me load the tour myself...
[13:26] <popey>  see my G+ feed
[13:27] <dholbach> I don't get the the issue either
[13:28] <dpm> it's working fine here, let me point ant to your feed's comments
[13:28] <dpm> ah, they use Chrome
[13:29] <popey> works fine for me in chrome
[13:29] <dpm> and for me in Chromium
[13:32] <dpm> ok, poked ant
[13:33] <daker> dpm, Erreur 310 (net::ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS)  - Chromium 18.0.997.0
[13:33] <daker> and the url is something like this : http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/zh-CN/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/index.html/
[13:34] <dpm> daker, ah, thanks! what steps do you follow, starting from www.ubuntu.com, to get into that loop?
[13:34] <daker> yes i clicked the "中文" button
[13:35] <dpm> and then you get the loop straight away?
[13:35] <daker> yes
[13:35] <dholbach> maybe an issue they fixed which might still be hanging in some caches/proxies?
[13:36] <dpm> good point. daker, if you refresh the page with shift+F5, do you still get the issue?
[13:36] <daker> same thing
[13:37] <nigelb> I can't reproduce with Firefox
[13:40] <daker> dpm, it works now
[13:43] <dpm> hm, might have been a temporary issue?
[13:44] <daker> maybe
[13:46] <ts2> the first time I clicked the link I got the redirect error, but not the second of subsequent times
[13:53] <scott-work> good morning everyone
[14:24] <mhall119> good morning
[14:24] <nigelb> Morning mhall119
[14:31] <balloons> morning :-)
[14:32] <mhall119> morning balloons, nice weather isn't it?
[14:33] <balloons> SO nice!
[14:33] <mhall119> I may be working from the hammock this afternoon :)
[14:34] <balloons> the forecast says perfect weather here all week. I'm guessing it's the same for you
[14:34] <mhall119> yup, upper 70s all week
[14:35] <nigelb> there needs to be an irssi plugin to convert F to C.
[14:35] <nigelb> Why don't y'all use C like normal people :P
[14:35] <mhall119> because we're Americans!
[14:36] <nigelb> Proudly using the imperial system :D
[14:36] <balloons> sorry nigelb .. highs are 27 c all week
[14:36] <nigelb> yeah, I converted :)
[14:36] <mhall119> next he's gonna want us to talk meters and grams :(
[14:36] <nigelb> But I try not miss a chance to make fun of Fahrenheit
[14:37] <balloons> we're just trying to give legacy to that kings foot
[14:37] <balloons> :-)
[14:37] <nigelb> heh
[14:38] <balloons> we could move to kelvin...
[14:39] <nigelb> which is not bad.
[14:39] <dpm> morning  balloons
[14:39] <dpm> morning mhall119
[14:39] <balloons> morning dpm
[14:39] <snap-l> Hey, I'll give you the whole length and mass thing
[14:40] <balloons> err well, afternoon dpm :-
[14:40] <snap-l> but you'll take my Farenheit from my cold, 32F fingers.
[14:41] <nigelb> lol, that was a good one
[14:42] <balloons> I was not alive the last time the us tried to convert to metric.. funny thing is I can see how companies would simply use it to cheat consumers, and people would feel ripped off even if the prices stayed consistent throughout the conversion
[14:43] <snap-l> WEll, what's funny is most things are already measured in litres
[14:43] <snap-l> liquor: 750ml, 1 litre, etc.
[14:44] <balloons> yes -- try selling gas in liters and see how that goes for you
[14:44] <mhall119> morning dpm, dholbach and jcastro
[14:45] <snap-l> balloons: They do that in canadia. ;)
[14:45] <balloons> yep.. been there, bought that
[14:45] <snap-l> We 'merkins gotta have our mpGs
[14:45] <mhall119> soda is about the only thing most people think of in terms of metric measurements
[14:46] <balloons> everything would look good on paper tho.. cheaper prices, more miles per X :-)
[14:46] <mhall119> unless it's small amounts, then it's still ounces
[14:46] <mhall119> http://xkcd.com/526/ is a good conversion guide
[14:46] <snap-l> mhall119: Most of our baking goods are still in ounces
[14:47] <mhall119> most weight measures are still pounds/ounces
[14:47] <snap-l> Yeah
[14:48] <mhall119> try coming up with something like "a pint's a pound the world around" in metric
[14:48] <ahayzen> Why can't everyone just adopt SI units? Only 3 countries in the world haven't officially adopted SI (Myanmar (Burma), Liberia, and the United States)
[14:49] <mhall119> ahayzen: the same reason some people like bright-pink hair
[14:50] <ahayzen> @mhall119: lol... but it makes things much easier for Physics :)
[14:50] <meetingology> ahayzen: Error: "mhall119:" is not a valid command.
[14:51] <mhall119> I'm *always* a valid command!
[14:52] <balloons> ahayzen, that's interesting... only 3 places left..
[14:52] <ahayzen> balloons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units
[14:52] <ahayzen> balloons: Under 'Cultural issues'
[14:57] <dholbach> hey mhall119
[14:58] <dholbach>  ./mhall119 fill up UDW schedule
[14:58] <dholbach> :-P
[14:59] <nigelb> haha
[14:59] <nigelb> now you'll get "Bad command or filename"
[14:59] <mhall119> dholbach: hey, I've already filled several slots for you
[14:59] <dholbach> I know
[14:59]  * dholbach hugs mhall119
[14:59] <dholbach> mhall119, let me know if the pilot scripts work for you :)
[14:59] <mhall119> dholbach: will do
[14:59] <dholbach> mhall119, it's just what I'm still struggling with right now :)
[15:00] <dholbach> dpm, maybe we should merge UDW and UADW next time ;-)
[15:00] <mhall119> dholbach: yeah, I don't quite understand the difference
[15:02] <dholbach> well there's content about developing apps for Ubuntu and there's content about how to work on the Ubuntu platform (packaging, integration, etc.)
[15:02] <dholbach> but there's more and more overlap and it'd be just one event to plan, announce, etc
[15:06] <mhall119> yeah, I think you're right
[15:37]  * highvoltage wants an mhall119 script too
[15:37]  * mhall119 wants a script to build daily ISOs of qimo (hint hint, highvoltage )
[15:42] <highvoltage> mhall119: I was thinking of that just last night :)
[15:46] <jono> morning all!
[15:47] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:47] <nigelb> Hi jono
[15:47] <jono> hey dholbach, nigelb
[15:49] <mhall119> morning jono
[15:49] <jono> hey mhall119
[15:49] <jono> ahhh the sweet smell of coffee brewing on this dreary day
[15:49] <jono> the weather is awful here
[15:50] <mhall119> it's beautiful here
[15:50] <ahayzen> jono: Hi ...'You have accomplished something! Clicked a button' ... Well done with all the work on the accomplishment system. Really liking where this is going :)
[15:50] <jono> ahayzen, getting there :-)
[15:50] <jono> thanks for the encouragement
[15:51] <ahayzen> jono: Wish i could help but too many exams at the moment though :(
[15:51] <mhall119> jono: is there an API doc for libaccomplishments
[15:51] <mhall119> or should I just browse the code?
[15:52] <jono> mhall119, no, but you only really need the one function in there
[15:52] <jono> mhall119, if you read the code it is pretty simple
[15:52] <mhall119> ok
[15:53] <mhall119> jono: do you want me to focus on a lens for oneiric or precise?
[15:54] <pangolin> Congratulations! You have just violated ACTA, the DoJ has been informed.
[15:55] <mhall119> that's too easy to do for it to be considered an accomplishment
[15:56] <s-fox> Hello.
[15:56] <pangolin> mhall119: it could be the 1st accomplishment
[15:56] <jono> mhall119, I think Oneiric would be cool, but if a problem, let's focus on Precise
[16:01] <jono> dholbach, all set?
[16:02] <dholbach> yep
[16:05] <mhall119> jono: precise would mean I have to upgrade my laptop and singlet
[16:05] <mhall119> which I want to do anyway, but would take more time
[16:05] <dpm> mhall119, I meant to ask you this last week. I'm not sure if I've asked you that already or if it's come up in a conversation already, but are you thinking of integrating singlet into quickly? e.g. creating a quickly template for lenses
[16:05] <mhall119> dpm: I'll be talking to didrocks about that later this week
[16:06] <mhall119> to see what would be the best way of doing that
[16:06] <dpm> mhall119, cool. You might want to talk to mterry too. He's the current quickly maintainer now
[16:06] <mhall119> ok
[16:06] <mhall119> is jcastro working today, or is he recovering from SCaLE?
[16:08] <mhall119> I heard there was a lot of people in the juju and unity talks there
[16:12] <nigelb> did you guys see the canonicalpeoplelookingatthings.blogspot.com blog?
[16:12] <mhall119> yes
[16:13] <mhall119> I have a couple I need to submit
[16:15] <popey> ☺
[16:16] <czajkowski> I have a lot on pix.ie
[16:17] <popey> submit them!
[16:32] <jono> mhall119, you should be running Precise right now
[16:32] <jono> please upgrade
[16:32] <jono> it is running pretty stable anyway :-)
[16:32] <jono> dpm, all set?
[16:32] <mhall119> ok
[16:32] <czajkowski> popey: how does submit them ?
[16:33] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:34] <jono> dpm, hangout sent
[16:35] <dpm> jono, weird, I cannot see it
[16:36] <dpm> are you using your usual g+ account? I cannot see it in your home page either
[16:36] <dpm> now
[16:39] <MrChrisDruif> Should all the new power saving settings be applied when you upgrade to Precise?
[16:43] <balloons> jono, our time fell off my calendar -- when do we meet today?
[16:43] <jono> balloons, 11.30 Pacific
[16:44] <balloons> MrChrisDruif, I'm not 100% sure but I believe they are in precise.. check colin's post
[16:44] <balloons> jono, thanks :-)
[16:45] <MrChrisDruif> balloons; they (should be/are) in precise, but will they also apply with an upgrade?
[16:47] <balloons> you mean vs a fresh install?
[16:48] <koolhead17> hi all!!
[16:48] <MrChrisDruif> balloons; yes
[16:49] <MrChrisDruif> Upgrade isn't the same as a fresh install. A lot of stuff in a default fresh install isn't processed in an upgrade
[16:49] <balloons> MrChrisDruif, I don't think I've ever understood this perception of always wanting fresh install
[16:50] <balloons> in reality they are identical, unless you or something you've installed modifies the default, AND on upgrade you keep your old configuration
[16:50] <MrChrisDruif> balloons; see above and also with upgrades I get cruff
[16:50] <MrChrisDruif> And who doesn't alter the default installation?
[16:52] <MrChrisDruif> I've got the default install modified so much you almost can't call it Ubuntu anymore ^_^
[16:52] <balloons> lol.. I understand your thought process, but I *think* it's overblown. I don't know enough to say one way or the other I suppose so I won't
[16:52]  * mhall119 upgrading
[16:53] <balloons> some of the changes are kernel related, so no matter what, your good there
[16:53] <MrChrisDruif> ^_^
[16:53]  * MrChrisDruif will also see what happens when upgrading
[16:56] <balloons> if you do like blank installing tho, dpkg makes it easy to dump your current list of packages and reinstall them again anew
[16:57] <balloons> i dump my list and my sources.list in with my backup so I can "restore" my entire system including os if needed..
[16:59] <mhall119> the only reason I ever do a fresh install is to get rid of all the junk I've installed and never use
[17:01] <daker> what do you think of this nigelb  bug #920538
[17:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 920538 in ubuntu-cloud-portal "Just use cloud-images.u.c instead of the AMI browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920538
[17:01] <nigelb> Isn't that page auto-gerated?
[17:01] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe I should install the mini-ISO some day, only install cruft I want ^_^
[17:02] <balloons> MrChrisDruif, net-installs of only the base system work for the hardcore
[17:02] <daker> nigelb, yes
[17:02] <balloons> i have walked that road with old hardware
[17:03] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, that's want I'm talking about...maybe even debian ^_^
[17:03] <popey> balloons: I feel the same way about upgrades
[17:03] <popey> it frustrates me when people just tell everyone to do a clean install and not upgrade
[17:03] <popey> we will never get upgrades tested if those people giving support tell people not to do it
[17:03] <popey> so the quality goes down as a result, self defeating spiral of fail
[17:03] <nigelb> daker: To be fair, I always use cloud.ubuntu.com to find an AMI
[17:04] <balloons> yes.. this really sounds like a experiment/post
[17:04] <balloons> do a little proof testing
[17:04] <balloons> I'll diff my system now, versus a clean install ;-) hehe
[17:04] <daker> nigelb, comment on the bug
[17:04] <MrChrisDruif> "Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager."
[17:05] <daker> popey, for me it takes less than one hour to a do fresh install, upgrading takes about 4/5 hours for me
[17:05] <popey> what else were you going to do with those hours?
[17:05] <popey> sleep?
[17:05] <koolhead17> guys whoever is working on UDS site please change the Budapest banner http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/community/
[17:06] <balloons> daker, really interesting on the time difference.. is your cpu really slow or?
[17:06] <MrChrisDruif> Probably popey ^_^
[17:08] <daker> balloons, P4 512M of RAM
[17:08] <daker> CPU is 1Ghz and something
[17:09] <balloons> odd. I mean, if that's the case then yea i would wipe install.. but do you reinstall your packages afterwards? that likely takes some processing time as well
[17:09] <daker> yes
[17:10] <daker> VLC/Chromuim/Xchat
[17:10] <daker> you can say it will takes on other hour to install the packages
[17:11] <daker> 2h < 5 h
[17:11] <popey> plus time taken to download the iso
[17:11] <daker> hhhh, i use the CD
[17:11] <popey> ☺
[17:13] <balloons> lol.. superfast internet bandwith, but slow pc.. means it's faster :-)
[17:15]  * koolhead17 looks at daker
[17:16] <daker> ツ
[17:26] <jono> dholbach, still here?
[17:27] <dholbach> jono, yes
[17:28] <daker> sorry guys but i will delete this MP https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/juju/small-fix/+merge/68038
[17:28] <daker> and i will not sign any agreement
[17:31] <dpm> dholbach, say if I've written a super cool app, but a) have no idea on packaging and I'm happy for it to be packaged in Ubuntu or Debian and b) would like to have it in the archive, what's the first step I would have to do?
[17:32] <dpm> (assuming the developer of the app does not want to maintain the package)
[17:32] <dholbach> if it's not packaged yet, check out the packaging guide, then read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[17:33] <dpm> dholbach, ah, cool, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
[17:33] <dholbach> de nada
[17:34] <jono> daker, any particular reason why you don't want to sign it?
[17:37] <daker> jono, ah i just found that they have updated the process, now i can sign it online
[17:37] <jono> daker, awesome :-)
[17:37] <daker> but one thing is missing, where are the terms ?
[17:41] <daker> jono, i can't find the terms :/
[17:41] <jono> daker, reply to the bug to ask for the terms and I will ask Kapil to respond
[17:42] <daker> ok thanks
[17:42] <popey> http://www.canonical.com/sites/default/files/active/images/Canonical-HA-CLA-ANY-I.pdf
[17:42] <popey> isnt that it?
[17:43] <daker> popey, i think yes
[17:44] <daker> popey, but i can't find it here https://forms.canonical.com/contributor/
[17:44] <jono> daker, I just pinged Kapil, he will update the bug report
[17:44] <popey> http://www.canonical.com/contributors
[17:44] <popey> that page links to it
[17:44] <popey> and to the form
[17:44] <daker> thanks jono popey
[17:45] <jono> thanka daker!
[17:51] <dpm> ok, see you all tomorrow!
[18:02] <technoviking> crap, my laptop died this morning
[18:02] <dholbach> :-(
[18:03] <technoviking> dholbach: Do you know of anyone that could help the Salt folks (saltstack.org) get there software into Ubuntu/Debian
[18:04] <technoviking> They gotten a package into testing, but are stuck there
[18:04] <dholbach> if it's in testing it's in Debian already and we can sync it
[18:04] <dholbach> can you mail me some details?
[18:04] <technoviking> I updated there PPA and working to make them a juju charm
[18:04] <dholbach> I'll look into it tomorrow and see who I can find
[18:04] <technoviking> dholbach: sure
[18:05] <technoviking> dholbach: many thanks
[18:08] <mhall119> jono: I've got about 30 minutes of install left (then who knows how much cleanup), but we can try a hangout and see what breaks
[18:15] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; same here ^_^
[18:22] <jono> mhall119, sorry, got stuck on a call
[18:22] <jono> mhall119, you free now?
[18:24] <mhall119> jono: yup
[18:30] <jono> mhall119, hangout invite sent
[18:31] <MrChrisDruif> bbiab
[18:32]  * dholbach call it a day
[18:32] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[18:33] <balloons> bye dholbach1
[18:33] <dholbach> bye balloons :)
[18:36] <MrChrisDruif> Bacl
[18:36] <MrChrisDruif> back*
[18:45] <MrChrisDruif> Nothing broke yet ^_^
[19:28] <jono> balloons, all set in a few mins?
[19:28] <balloons> you bet
[19:28] <jono> balloons, cool man, will send an invite in a min
[19:28] <jono> just wrapping up a few things
[19:29] <balloons> lots happening this morning :-)
[19:31] <jono> indeed
[19:31] <jono> damn, need to reboot
[19:31] <jono> one sec
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> jono; you reboot in 1 second O_O
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> ?
[19:42] <czajkowski> I reboot in just under 10
[19:45] <jono> :-)
[19:49] <bkerensa> jono: Will you be staying in Portland after CLS for OSCON or just CLS this year?
[19:50] <bkerensa> would love to have a Ubuntu Hour when you are in town
[20:00] <jono> mhall119, who is Ricky Rosario?
[20:00] <jono> is that the Sumo guy?
[20:01] <mhall119> jono: yeah
[20:01] <mhall119> chatting with him now
[20:01] <jono> cool
[20:07] <MrChrisDruif> It might be me, but my laptop *feels* cooler ^_^
[20:10] <balloons> did you run powertop before/ater?
[20:44] <MrChrisDruif> Nope, sorry
[20:45] <MrChrisDruif> I'll run it after at least
[21:30] <jono> mhall119, wow, it seems Sumo could be a neat fit from your notes so far
[21:36] <MrChrisDruif> balloons; does it show temps anywhere?
[21:38] <mhall119> jono: yeah
[21:38] <balloons> ohh powertop? I don't believe so, just the power usage which indirectly relates to temps
[21:38] <balloons> however lmsensors does show temps ;-)
[21:39] <balloons> not sure if there is an indicator for that? there was under gnome2.. you could even control the clockspeed and set the cpu governor
[21:59] <jono> balloons, http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/01/23/nicholas-skaggs-qa-blog/
[21:59] <jono> should get people looking at your blog
[22:00] <balloons> and so it begins :-)
[22:00] <balloons> great, thank you
[22:09] <jono> :-)
[22:48] <mhall119> so I'm switching how I use GTG, instead of tags for projects, like @canonical or @unity, I'm tagging them as people that will be involved in them
[22:48] <mhall119> I think this will work much better
[22:49] <mhall119> now I need to hack gtg to allow gravatars instead of just colors on tags
[22:53] <balloons> call me slow, but I'm seeing the rss feed for voices.canonical.com.. is that something I can follow or not?
[22:53] <balloons> of course.. found it
[22:53] <balloons> it never fails.. spend 10 mins looking for something, but the second you ask you find it
[22:54] <balloons> http://voices.canonical.com/feed/rss/ in case anyone cares :-)
[22:58] <akgraner> balloons, "the orange notebook"  nice title!
[22:58] <balloons> akgraner, thank you :-) it should look a bit familiar
[22:58] <akgraner> that it does
[22:59] <akgraner> so you're wife is using Ubuntu does she want to get involved in the community?
[23:00] <balloons> my wife has been using ubuntu for a bit.. I think she might enjoy getting involved
[23:01] <akgraner> Oh cool, that would rock.
[23:02] <balloons> lol.. I say a bit, she's been using it as long as I have, since I admin all the pcs in the house.. :-)
[23:03] <akgraner> :-)
[23:03] <balloons> she enjoys using gimp, and knows more about it than me!
[23:10] <mhall119> balloons: that's why I always ask first :)
[23:10] <balloons> mhall119, ohh.. someday maybe I'll be as smart as you
[23:13] <balloons> ohh the sunset is lovely.. I think I shall go out and watch it.. good night to you all