[00:14] <DaMummy|PND> ok well apparently live doesnt like to boot off a SD card, which i was trying, works dandy off a real USB flash drive
[00:22] <GridCube> it might depend on the sd card reader?
[00:42] <AaronArmstrong> Hi.
[03:36] <Da|Mummy> i lost read/write permission on my main filesystem, how do i get it back?
[04:12] <ghengiscoin> hi
[04:13] <ghengiscoin> what's the story on firefox fo xubuntu upgrades?
[04:13] <w30> ghengiscoin, welcome
[04:13] <ghengiscoin> thanks w38
[04:14] <nanotube> w30: you got a +8 :)
[04:15] <w30> ghengiscoin, all I know is I have Firefox 9.0.1 Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu canonical-1.0
[04:16]  * Unit193 FF11
[04:16] <w30> nanotube, 8 bit player, ha
[04:17] <ghengiscoin> hmm - mine is 3.6.24 - when i use apt-get install firefox i get message already at most recent version
[04:19] <nanotube> ghengiscoin: which version of xubuntu? probably lts or some such?
[04:19] <nanotube> you could try adding a repository with a more recent firefox, such as firefox-stable, or ubuntuzilla
[04:19] <w30> ls -la /usr/bin/firefox
[04:19] <w30> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2011-12-28 04:33 /usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox-9.0.1/firefox.sh
[04:21] <w30> ghengiscoin, check and see how you are calling up firefox
[04:21] <w30> ghengiscoin, maybe you have both versions installed?
[04:22] <ghengiscoin> both versions of firefox checking on Xubuntu version
[04:23] <ghengiscoin> make that both versions of ??
[04:24] <ghengiscoin> cmd is firefox with start-up notification
[04:26] <ghengiscoin> pretty sure I'm running xfce4 not sure how to check
[04:26] <Unit193> lsb_release -rd
[04:26] <w30> ghengiscoin, with firefox loaded try in a terminal ps aux | grep firefox
[04:27] <ghengiscoin> Ubuntu 10.10
[04:28] <ghengiscoin> i see still calling firefox-3.6.24
[04:28] <ghengiscoin> I will try to add a repository
[04:29] <ghengiscoin> and get back to you all - thanks!
[04:29] <w30> ghengiscoin, I run 11.10; I am not familiar with 10.10
[04:29] <ghengiscoin> i think it's the latest with xfce desktop
[04:29] <ghengiscoin> ?
[04:30] <Unit193> !fx6
[04:33] <ghengiscoin> hmm - so I'm behind the times - but I do have an older laptop
[04:48] <ghengiscoin> I added the ppa you recommend but it's not updating for some reason - probably needs some time
[04:52] <nanotube> try also ubuntuzilla - i've been using it to good effect for years. (and i'm partial to it because i maintain it :) )
[04:53] <Unit193> Or try running sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:55] <gvtmath> that did it - sudo apt-get dist-upgrade downloading now
[04:56] <gvtmath> say, is it reasonable to donate to the opensource foundation instead of to each org from which I get SW?
[05:00] <gvtmath> thanks for all assistance - now running firefox 9.0.1
[05:00] <gvtmath> good night all
[10:21] <meco> Do I need a cd to switch from ubuntu to xubuntu or could the entire process be done online?
[10:23] <PopeJob> you dont need a CD
[10:24] <Myrtti> no, you just install the xubuntu-desktop package like bazhang told you in #ubuntu
[10:24] <PopeJob> you only need to install xubuntu-desktop
[10:25] <meco> Would that be like 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'?
[10:25] <PopeJob> exactly
[10:25] <meco> Ah..
[10:31] <meco> I was just told this: "from my experience, xfce is no longer more lightweight than regular GNOME (compared to GNOME2, 3 I havent compared)"
[10:31] <meco> Any comments on that?
[10:32] <PopeJob> no
[10:32] <PopeJob> you will be able to choose gnome/unity or xfce on startup. if you want to get rid of ubuntu or xubuntu later on, see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[10:34] <meco> Nah, that wasn't the point as I read that text. It basically says that there isn't much to gain with respect to freed system resources by switching from ubuntu to xubuntu. Or am I reading it wrong?
[10:42] <kclemens> hi guys, anyone knows how to set up cpu frequency scaling properly on xubuntu?
[10:57] <_Pete_> kclemens: define properly? for me it works properly out of the box
[11:07] <kclemens> _Pete_: heres what cpufreq-info gives me
[11:07] <kclemens> analyzing CPU 0:
[11:07] <kclemens>   driver: acpi-cpufreq
[11:07] <kclemens>   CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0 1
[11:07] <kclemens>   CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
[11:07] <kclemens>   maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
[11:07] <kclemens>   hardware limits: 800 MHz - 2.67 GHz
[11:07] <kclemens>   available frequency steps: 2.67 GHz, 2.67 GHz, 2.13 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 800 MHz
[11:07] <kclemens>   available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance
[11:07] <kclemens>   current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 800 MHz.
[11:07] <kclemens>                   The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
[11:07] <kclemens>                   within this range.
[11:07] <kclemens>   current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.
[11:08] <kclemens>   cpufreq stats: 2.67 GHz:0.00%, 2.67 GHz:0.00%, 2.13 GHz:0.00%, 1.60 GHz:0.00%, 800 MHz:100.00%  (2)
[11:08] <kclemens> it is not scaling the frequency up above 800 MHz
[11:08] <kclemens> no matter what i specify with cpufreq-set
[11:21] <lordjj> Hi, I'm on 11.04. upowerd is occassionally freezing my laptop with 100% CPU usages. What can I do about this? Is it safe to uninstall upower?
[12:49] <augustl> someone recommended I get a package from the next ubuntu release (precise), namely the erlang package. How do I go about installing that?
[12:49] <augustl> do I just add precise sources to my sources.list?
[12:50] <Myrtti> I wouldn't
[12:50] <Myrtti> it's bound to break stuff
[12:50] <augustl> I need a erlang version other than R14B02
[12:50] <augustl> apparently, it's broken on 64 bit, according to #couchdb
[12:51] <augustl> is it better if I build my own erlang?
[13:01] <augustl> building my own ;)
[13:59] <fletcher353> Xubuntu Rules
[15:03] <b91> .
[17:36] <philippe> hi
[17:37] <Guest25340> I just did a fresh install of xubuntu 10.10 and it's asking for password everytime I want to restart or shutdown
[17:37] <Guest25340> Help?
[17:39] <GridCube> mmmm
[17:39] <GridCube> try to reinstall?
[17:39] <GridCube> i never had that problem
[17:39] <Guest25340> I just did a fresh install :(
[17:41] <GridCube> yeah
[17:41] <GridCube> i know
[17:41] <GridCube> but something might have went wrong?
[17:41] <Guest25340> meh
[17:41] <Guest25340> ok
[17:41] <Guest25340> I will reinstall
[17:41] <GridCube> dunno, i've heard of someone asking a similar thing a few days ago
[17:41] <Guest25340> and did reinstall help them?
[17:41] <GridCube> dunno if they fixed it or not
[17:41] <Guest25340> oh ok
[17:41] <GridCube> he never came back
[17:41] <Guest25340> I will try a reinstall
[17:42] <Guest25340> I will come back and let you know
[17:42] <Guest25340> Thanks
[17:42] <GridCube> :)
[17:42] <Guest25340> Laters
[17:42] <GridCube> no problem
[18:00] <liveXubun> on xubuntu11.04 liveUSB stick: Can not run 'update-grub' won't run_after editing /etc/default/grub. Newbie--HELP pls.
[18:02] <GridCube> liveXubun, did you tried sudo update-grub?
[18:03] <liveXubun> yes, my command was 'sudo update-grub'. tks GridCube
[18:03] <GridCube> ok, well
[18:04] <GridCube> i never tried to update-grub from a live session
[18:04] <GridCube> i don't know if that possible
[18:10] <liveXubun> this is also first time i've tried it w/ liveusb__man page shows reference to 'update-grub2'__tried that too.
[18:12] <liveXubun> i noticed that '/boot'grub/grub.cfg' does not exist__can anyone else help?
[18:15] <GridCube> hey liveXubun what are you trying to do?
[18:22] <liveXubun> want to completely disable ipv6 on liveUSB
[18:23] <liveXubun> dont want to have to enter a command manually after each live boot.
[18:25] <JT-oneReb> Has anyone else had issues with their mouse not working after the latest update?
[18:35] <liveXubun> GridCube, tks for ur ideas. Anyone else know how to run 'update-grub' on liveUSB?
[18:40] <liveXubun> P.S. Live Xubun 11.04 is working GREAT, except for disabling ipv6 via grub. THANKS to developers!
[19:08] <liveXubun> i'm leaving__will check again for help on 'update-grub', w/ liveXubun 11.04 usb stick.
[19:47] <b91> .
[19:48] <TheSheep> !hi | b91
[20:19] <JT-oneReb> after updating today I'm having problems with my mouse, can anyone help?
[20:20] <GridCube> what kind of problems?
[20:21] <JT-oneReb> Mouse just doesn't work after restarting
[20:23] <TheSheep> JT-oneReb: anything in the x logs?
[20:24] <JT-oneReb> I don't know, I'm really limited without a mouse
[20:25] <JT-oneReb> Today's update was a fairly large one with new grub
[20:25] <JT-oneReb> I ran the update and restarted the computer and then my problem started
[20:28] <GridCube> JT-oneReb, tried un-plugging the mouse, and replugin it again?
[20:28] <GridCube> if its usb it might restart in the moment
[20:29] <GridCube> if its not then you might need to restart the computer without the mouse and then again
[20:31] <JT-oneReb> I just unplugged the mouse and plugged it back, not working
[20:31] <JT-oneReb> it's not a USB mouse
[20:31] <GridCube> :/ ok
[20:32] <JT-oneReb> I think that the update screwed things up
[20:32] <TheSheep> JT-oneReb: is it a com mouse?
[20:32] <JT-oneReb> yes
[20:32] <TheSheep> JT-oneReb: if it is, xubuntu has no way to detect it, you need to configure it in xorg.conf
[20:33] <JT-oneReb> Can you tell me how to get my terminal to open the typical ctr alt t isn't working
[20:35] <GridCube> alt-f2
[20:35] <GridCube> xfce4-terminal
[20:42] <JT-oneReb> xorg.conf is command not found
[20:45] <TVasEyes> man 5 xorg.conf
[20:50] <JT-oneReb> Ok I'm not real sure what that is going to do to get my mouse to work again OMH
[20:53] <GridCube> JT-oneReb, you need to create a xorg.conf
[20:54] <GridCube> using x --configure after killing the current session
[20:54] <GridCube> then you need to add the pointer to the pointers section
[20:54] <GridCube> if its not there you will need to create it
[20:55] <JT-oneReb> command not found when I type xorg.conf
[20:55] <knome> you need to create, not run
[21:00] <trinikrono> GridCube: i believe you can go on one of the terminals and kill the current x session then run x --configure
[21:00] <trinikrono> sudo service lightdm stop
[21:00] <trinikrono> to stop the x
[21:00] <trinikrono> i believe :D
[21:01] <GridCube> trinikrono, :) im not the one with the problem, its JT-oneReb, but yeah thats exactly what he has to do
[21:01] <trinikrono> whoops lol
[21:03] <JT-oneReb> ok I'll try that
[21:03] <JT-oneReb> I'm still not real sure about what it is that I'm doing
[21:09] <m1chael> hello... i've got xubuntu installed.. everything works perfect, but i tried to install a printer today (Canon MP620) .. it detects and everything, but the printing is bad... colors dont come out right, font is oversized, printing is just weird.. any ideas?
[21:11] <GridCube> m1chael, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1763027
[21:12] <m1chael> thanks GridCube... so I should expect a different outcome? rather than just plugging it in, choosing the printer, etc
[21:41] <m1chael> thanks GridCube, it worked perfectly!!
[21:52] <xubuntu335> bonsoir
[21:53] <b91> hi
[21:54] <xubuntu335> wow...possible de surfer pdt l'insytall de xubuntu ?!
[21:54] <b91> oui :)
[21:55] <xubuntu335> je sents que je vais aimer cette séparation de mon seven
[21:57] <xubuntu335> z'avez une idée de la durée de l'install depuis usb ?
[22:09] <autif> !fr
[22:36] <DexterF> hi
[22:37] <DexterF> fresh 11.10 on a thinkpad r51 (intel celeron 16., radeon r200 or r300 on free drivers): suspend-to-disk won't properly wake up. black screen, the end. anything I can do about that? it's been like this on 10.10, too
[22:37] <autif> DexterF - Try Ctrl-Atl-F1, wait 4 seconds, Then Ctrl-Alt-F7
[22:38] <eightyape> r9ght then, oinstalled ubuntu 11.10 with all updates and i cant get no hotkeys, the acpi is whacky, sound keeps disappeariing too
[22:38] <eightyape> li2727 fujitsu siewank. cant get any dual monitor support without weird res on the external
[22:39] <eightyape> certainly not ddual but a parallel is doing ok
[22:39] <eightyape> next tiem i buy amd
[22:40] <eightyape> realtek 268 sound card integrated
[22:40] <eightyape> 965 chipset
[22:40] <eightyape> no hardware monitor bright control and all i can google up is how to fix the wifi which i done already by adding a different card
[22:41] <eightyape> broken it amny times already trying fixes with acerhk- modprobe special amilo keys
[22:42] <eightyape> NOONE HOME/
[22:43] <eightyape> i DO HAVE WORKING AUDUIO HOTKEYS THOUGH..
[22:44] <eightyape> seemingly its acpi support im missing -and gma drivers for both settings
[22:44] <eightyape> dual monitor and graphics controls
[22:44] <eightyape> x3100 shitset
[22:45] <eightyape> please can anyone help or is it impossible...
[22:45] <eightyape> and wghats the command for raising the brightness through the console?
[22:47] <eightyape> linux sucks arse
[22:47] <eightyape> better than windows and im not going back even if you ignore my sorry arse
[22:49] <Myrtti> sorry?
[22:51] <Myrtti> seems a bit harsh
[22:52] <eightyape> been trying to fix myself but im shit and intelgrated graphics dont like opensource things
[22:52] <eightyape> that russian guy hasnt even cracked the overclock yet- onthe x3100
[22:53] <Myrtti> well your cussing doesn't really improve your chances of getting helped
[22:53] <pleia2> that language is not at all appropriate here, please calm down, if someone can help you with your question they will speak up, just wait
[22:53] <eightyape> i wasnt cussing at you
[22:53] <eightyape> i was cussing at billybob gates
[22:53] <eightyape> its called chat
[22:53] <pleia2> do not cuss at anyone here
[22:53] <eightyape> i exprtess myself
[22:53] <eightyape> you retort
[22:54] <eightyape> like some sort of catholic priest ,all pious and condescending
[22:54] <eightyape> you are not a robot
[22:54] <eightyape> or a policeman so there is no need to be quite so insufferably proper and officious
[22:55] <eightyape> pleia?? who exactly did i cuss at?
[22:55] <pleia2> eightyape: stop
[22:55] <bazhang> eightyape, lets move one please
[22:55] <eightyape> im tempted to do some cussing......
[22:55] <eightyape> im rather goofd at it
[22:56] <Myrtti> did you want help with your system or not?
[22:56] <bazhang> eightyape, did you have a support question?
[22:56] <eightyape> would be nice
[22:56] <eightyape> problems are myriad
[22:56] <eightyape> li2727
[22:56] <eightyape> power system behaves funny with no bootup on first attempt sometimes
[22:57] <eightyape> fujitsu asmellio
[22:57] <eightyape> just a light
[22:57] <eightyape> integrated graphics i have no control over
[22:57] <eightyape> external moniutor showing wrong resolution
[22:57] <eightyape> no bright control
[22:58] <eightyape> hardware bright control
[22:58] <eightyape> no hot keys
[22:58] <eightyape> cept audio
[22:58] <eightyape> up down and mute all work ok
[22:59] <eightyape> audio arratic
[22:59] <eightyape> audio erratic
[22:59] <eightyape> run all the bios updates as suggested on forums, broken system twice with acerhk
[23:01] <eightyape> ooh the touchpad on/off hotkey works as well, but not wireless or brightness
[23:03] <eightyape> cant even change brightness in power manager
[23:04] <eightyape> have to use xbacklight
[23:06] <eightyape> from the terminal which doesnt work either- i just found
[23:06] <eightyape> is generally broken
[23:08] <eightyape> ????
[23:09] <eightyape> anyone got any ideas- just getting the brightness to 100 percent would be a start
[23:12] <trinikrono> eightyape: why dont you try the 12.04
[23:12] <trinikrono> it would have the newest kernel
[23:12] <eightyape> can you point me in the right direction- had no iidea there was new new version
[23:12] <trinikrono> eightyape: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20120123/
[23:13] <trinikrono> you would be able to download a iso that you can burn to a cd or usb drive to test it out
[23:13] <eightyape> are they any further on with embedded intel stuff is the question tho
[23:14] <eightyape> seems to be centred around that
[23:14] <trinikrono> well the newer kernels tend to fix things that where broken with older ones
[23:15] <trinikrono> so its always a good idea to test the latest ones first
[23:15] <trinikrono> or if you want to go backwards instead to lucid where it might of worked
[23:15] <trinikrono> 10.04
[23:16] <eightyape> yep some folks havent had so many issues with 10.04 bu t the last config from another use with the same comedy laptop was back on 8.04
[23:16] <eightyape> can you tell me nthe meantime haow i might set the backlight?
[23:17] <eightyape> im getting a haedache
[23:17] <trinikrono> i did a quick google and found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9619735 eightyape see if it helps lol
[23:17] <xubuntu160> salve
[23:18] <xubuntu160> avrei una domanda da porvi; su un computer lento mi conviene di più installarci xubuntu o lubuntu?
[23:19] <eightyape> looked at that already, no /video file in my acpi folder
[23:19] <Myrtti> !it | xubuntu160
[23:19] <trinikrono> xubuntu160: xubuntu :D
[23:20] <trinikrono> eightyape: is somethign wrong with the screen?
[23:20] <eightyape> file tree just points to what are presumably config files for ac adapter and battery modes
[23:21] <eightyape> nope its the acpi ok linux really doesnt like it
[23:21] <trinikrono> wait its a intel 965
[23:21] <eightyape> yes
[23:21] <eightyape> unfortunately
[23:21] <trinikrono> ouch
[23:21] <trinikrono> lol
[23:21] <trinikrono> jut now i did some messing around with those
[23:22] <eightyape> i managed dto BRIGHT_FILE="/proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness"hneg the brightness using that command you posted too but since i reinstalledca
[23:22] <eightyape> its all gone very wrong
[23:23] <eightyape> xrightness worked but i set it to ff by mistake not 100
[23:23] <eightyape> and the thing dimmed
[23:23] <eightyape> no iset it and it wont play ball
[23:23] <trinikrono> are you in the terminal or within lightdm or whatever
[23:24] <eightyape> seems like at the top of the process tree and first decision the onbaord wants is
[23:24] <trinikrono> what you can try is to make a manual xorg file
[23:24] <trinikrono> we needs infos on the xorg intel driver
[23:24] <eightyape> whteher im on ac or battery and t has two different config folders for both eventualities
[23:24] <trinikrono> the modes etc
[23:24] <eightyape> you tell me how
[23:25] <eightyape> and i will
[23:25] <eightyape> hang on google might know
[23:25] <trinikrono> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting eightyape
[23:25] <trinikrono> if its intel most likely a the x intel driver
[23:25] <trinikrono> you should really test the latest daily image
[23:25] <trinikrono> it would have all the intel fixes
[23:26] <trinikrono> the newest ones
[23:26] <eightyape> will do
[23:26] <mdiviesti> hey folks... I just installed xubuntu... I'm trying to find a way to use dual monitors but don't see it in the settings manager.
[23:26] <eightyape> lol
[23:26] <eightyape> i bet you a pound its another 965
[23:27] <eightyape> what chipset are you running mdiviesti
[23:27] <eightyape> ?
[23:27] <eightyape> laptop?
[23:27] <trinikrono> lspci | grep VGA
[23:27] <trinikrono> :D
[23:27] <eightyape> tower?
[23:28] <mdiviesti> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86 [Quadro NVS 290] (rev a1)
[23:28] <mdiviesti> tis a dell tower
[23:28] <trinikrono> mdiviesti: did you install the non free drivers already
[23:29] <trinikrono> nvidia has they own setting manager
[23:29] <mdiviesti> Hmm.. how do I find them to install?
[23:30] <mdiviesti> kind of n00bish...
[23:31] <mdiviesti> hm.. I see nvidia server settings..
[23:35] <DexterF> autif: did that, didn't help
[23:35] <DexterF> well, I'll test that some more
[23:39] <eightyape> downloading fresh image now..
[23:39] <eightyape> got xbacklight working but only seems to switch between dim and slightly less dim
[23:40] <eightyape> and does like percentage inputs
[23:40] <eightyape> right then -wtf is xorg
[23:40] <eightyape> x11
[23:41] <eightyape> xthis xthat
[23:41] <eightyape> chicken, noone wants to take on the 965
[23:42] <eightyape> even mr gma booster failed and he had my 950 set running 720p
[23:42] <eightyape> attached to the measly single core atom
[23:42] <eightyape> sigh
[23:43] <eightyape> no hotkeys, no dual monitor, crazy audio- the xp disc beckons