[10:20] <Riddell> morning
[10:32] <tsdgeos> Riddell: morning
[14:40] <Riddell> new akonadi due tonight
[15:30] <Riddell> phew, KDM theme upgrade script done, that was a trivial three lines that took ages to test
[15:37] <ScottK> Riddell: Qt automated testing discussion in #u-meeting.  FYI.
[15:47] <Riddell> ScottK: thanks
[16:29] <Riddell> ok still lots to do on 4.8: language packs, throw oneiric backports at PPA, testing, I think I want to include the new NM with it for convenience to users, akonadi tar coming soon, then release tomorrow or whenever upstream want
[16:36] <ScottK> Did you see the mail to packagers about the ark patch.  I don't think there was an updated tarball after that.
[17:02] <ScottK> Nevermind.  New ark and kgpg tars.
[17:49] <Quintasan_> yofel: Wish me luck, installing 12.04 LTS on my workstation
[17:50] <Riddell> Quintasan: good luck
[17:52] <yofel> gl, works mostly fine on my thinkpad
[17:53] <Riddell> yofel: but does the install work or just getting it by upgrade?
[17:53] <yofel> I never tried to actually install it - that was a pre-alpha upgrade
[17:54] <Riddell> yeah I've a nasty feeling that might have an issue that needs looked at before alpha 2
[17:56] <yofel> did you look at kdepimlibs? If we get all updated I can do the backporting later
[17:56] <Riddell> I need to update kgpg and ark tars
[17:56] <Riddell> then I'll just do a mass backport and throw it at the PPA and hope it sticks, worked for previous versions
[17:57] <Riddell> language packs to be done too
[17:57] <yofel> k
[17:57] <Riddell> then testing
[17:57] <Riddell> then we're good to go
[17:58] <Riddell> but first I need food
[18:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I'll be free after 8 PM IST tomorrow ;D
[18:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: your name occured to me because dholbach was looking for people to do talks 
[18:33] <shadeslayer> I did see the call for talks, Not sure if I have the time though :(
[18:34] <shadeslayer> Lemme have a look at the timetable
[18:35] <shadeslayer> Uhm, sorry, can't make it
[18:36]  * shadeslayer goes off to study for his last exam in exactly 14 hours
[18:36] <shadeslayer> cya
[18:44] <Riddell> good luck shadeslayer 
[19:19] <Quintasan> huzzah for sound in Flash!
[19:19] <Quintasan> Riddell: Works.
[19:19] <Quintasan> Though Skype is not installable
[19:19] <Quintasan> now how do I test recording
[19:21] <Quintasan> oh wait
[19:21] <Quintasan> It works
[19:21] <Quintasan> I think
[19:24] <Riddell> yay
[20:40] <Riddell> what happened to batl10n?
[20:40] <Riddell> how is l10n best packaged now?
[20:42] <yofel> Riddell: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging/L10nOperatorGuide
[20:42] <Riddell> oh yes of course
[20:43] <yofel> ^^
[22:07] <Riddell> hmm kde-l10n has stopped making the automatic patch for local changes and I don't know why
[22:16] <afiestas> back on kubuntu ! this time I want to have more time for fine tunning :p
[22:16] <afiestas> otherwise I'm always running late for everything xD
[22:16] <Riddell> afiestas: yay!
[22:17] <Riddell> afiestas: so you're using precise?
[22:17] <Riddell> ah, l10n packages need auto-commit in debian/source/options
[22:17] <afiestas> Riddell: yes 
[22:18] <Riddell> afiestas: how did you install?
[22:18] <afiestas> downloaded latest nightly, dd if of to a pendrive
[22:18] <afiestas> and installed it without any problem, next next next basically
[22:19] <Riddell> oh that's great to know
[22:19] <Riddell> maybe my fears are unfounded
[22:20] <afiestas> Riddell: what fears? the cd size being larger than 700Mb ?
[22:21] <Riddell> no just that when i tried an install something broke and I haven't had a chance to look at it more
[22:21] <Riddell> cd size is an issue too of course
[22:21] <Riddell> but same for ubuntu desktop
[22:23] <afiestas> well they have more users (I guess?) so size is less of an issue for them
[22:25] <Riddell> afiestas: it's still an issue if they advertise that it burns onto a CD and it doesn't!
[22:29] <afiestas> indeed 
[23:11] <afiestas> are we finally going to keep rekonq?
[23:16] <Riddell> afiestas: that's the status quo and it's what I'm in favour of
[23:16] <Riddell> new version needing packing too I see
[23:16] <afiestas> awesome :)
[23:17] <afiestas> something I was wondering, is there any reason why ktorrent is installed instead of the simpler kget?
[23:19] <Riddell> I've never liked kget, it added loads of toolbar buttons to konqueror for no reason when we used it and it had a weird circle floating on your desktop
[23:19] <Riddell> haven't tried it in years so dunno if it's changed
[23:28] <Riddell> afiestas: do you think we should?
[23:28] <Riddell> ktorrent has all the features, and the UI to match
[23:44] <afiestas> Riddell: well, it is simple with 4 buttons now the needed ones for download torrent-ftp-http files
[23:44] <afiestas> I have been using it for a few days and it works great though maybe we should ask ktorrent-kget developers before even discussing the change
[23:45] <afiestas> since we must be sure that kget-torrent will be maintained and healthy :p
[23:46] <ScottK> When has anything to do with kget ever been healthy?
[23:46] <Riddell> ScottK: how do you mean?
[23:46]  * ScottK doesn't like it either.
[23:47] <ScottK> Anyone doing akonadi?
[23:47] <afiestas> well it has improve alot imho
[23:47] <debfx> danimo: I'm pretty sure that the qtcreator crash is caused by one of our qt distro patches. bisecting that will be "fun"
[23:47] <Riddell> ScottK: yes
[23:48] <afiestas> ScottK: if by doing to mean "using", I am
[23:48] <ScottK> afiestas: No, I mean packaging 1.7.0.
[23:48] <Riddell> debfx: no backtrace to find out where the cause is?
[23:48]  * ScottK leaves it to Riddell then.
[23:48] <Riddell> I am packaging 1.7 as I type
[23:49] <ScottK> OK.
[23:50]  * ScottK is working out barry's latest python3-pyqt4-dbus patch so maybe we can have a python3 dbus mainloop.
[23:51] <debfx> Riddell: I have a backtrace but it's not really helpful except that it has to do with QtDeclarative.
[23:52] <Riddell> ScottK: upstream missed out some vital part?
[23:53] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  Upstream wrapped QtDBUS, but didn't port the stuff in the PyQt4 dbus dir as you still need with PyQt4 or PyGi to provide a mainloop.
[23:53] <ScottK> If we just want to depend on PyGi we can, but that seems 'wrong'.
[23:54] <Riddell> what's PyGi?
[23:54] <ScottK> Python Gobject Introspection.
[23:54] <ScottK> Gnome thing.