[00:21] <MaxHR> Hello, just tried installing takeoff from http://code.google.com/p/takeoff-launcher/wiki/Downloads?tm=2 and got an error that kdelibs is not installable, any ideas to fix?
[00:25] <tkennedy> can anyone help me out with 11.10 muon update issue?
[00:50] <DasKreech> tkennedy: what's the issue?
[00:53] <tkennedy> basically muon updater says I have updates and when I got to install them the app just sites there doing nothing
[00:54] <tkennedy> I've tried the usual apt-get update; apt-get install -f but that didn't work
[00:54] <tkennedy> I'm about ready to reimage the PC and start over
[00:58] <James147> tkennedy: have you tried "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[00:59] <tkennedy> no....I will try
[00:59] <tkennedy> there's nothing to upgrade so it says
[01:01] <tkennedy> also the muon package update app tells me it can't resolve a proxy server I set. But I have since removed the proxy settings and put back to direct connect but it still references them
[01:01] <tkennedy> does the package mgr cache this somewhere
[01:04] <DasKreech> tkennedy: what kind of cache?
[01:05] <tkennedy> I am going to clear my .kde/share/config and see if that fixes it
[01:33] <LINKSWORD2> I'm back, everybody.
[01:36] <LINKSWORD2> Odd. KPackageKit isn't finding distribution upgrades.
[01:38] <viKtor_> hey guys i really need help, love kde applications but love gnome shell (just how the shell itself works) i need something that makes me want kde, cause i don't really like the windows bar like interface :S
[01:38] <viKtor_> so why should i prefer kde 4 instead of gnome shell?
[01:39] <LINKSWORD2> viKtor_: You can move and re-customize the kickoff bar any time you like.
[01:40] <viKtor_> LINKSWORD2: but still i have the same behavior, a bar with taskbar meny and systry
[01:42] <LINKSWORD2> Well, what would make your situation better?
[01:42] <viKtor_> i hate having a bar in my desktop
[01:43] <viKtor_> y just want the desktop to hold opened windows
[01:43] <viKtor_> *I
[01:43] <viKtor_> no bars
[01:43] <viKtor_> no systray
[01:43] <viKtor_> nothing else
[01:43] <LINKSWORD2> Well, so far, the KDE system's GUI is designed in a way similar to Windows for its ease of use.
[01:44] <viKtor_> actually i love dolphin
[01:44] <viKtor_> and some other applications more than their kde analoge
[01:44] <LINKSWORD2> If I had a more powerful computer, I would actually have mine customized to look and perform like an Apple iMac, but without the overpriced hardware.
[01:45] <viKtor_> LINKSWORD2: how does it look like?
[01:45] <viKtor_> actually i've never used kde and stil i feel it kind of weird
[01:46] <LINKSWORD2> I actually have a "panel" along all edges of the monitor, with apps pinned to each of them.
[01:46] <viKtor_> i'm too use to the i have an asus i5 8 ram and 4 gb nvidia
[01:47] <viKtor_> sorry
[01:47] <viKtor_> both sentences were pasted
[01:47] <viKtor_> hehe
[01:47] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[01:47] <viKtor_> i have an asus i5 8 ram and 4 gb nvidia
[01:47] <viKtor_> and i'm too use to the mac's dock interface
[01:47] <viKtor_> with global menu
[01:47] <viKtor_> and so on
[01:47] <LINKSWORD2> Nice. Let me grab something I think will help.
[01:49] <LINKSWORD2> Here's one called KSmoothDock: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KSmoothDock?content=6585
[01:49] <LINKSWORD2> Another good one I've heard a lot about is called Cairo Dock.
[01:50] <viKtor_> cairo dock is also kde
[01:51] <LINKSWORD2> I know a few tricks here and there, but overall, I'm still pretty new at this...
[01:51] <LINKSWORD2> I'm sorry I can't be more help. :/
[01:52] <viKtor_> you know? it's contradictory but i've heard how much kde is customizable in detriment of gnome but them i always see the same desktop :S
[01:52] <viKtor_> LINKSWORD2: thanks too much dude!
[01:53] <LINKSWORD2> You're welcome.
[01:54] <LINKSWORD2> Here's another good dock, the Daisy Plasmoid: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa/+files/plasma-widget-daisy_0.0.4.23-0ubuntu2~lucid~ppa1_i386.deb
[01:55] <LINKSWORD2> Oops. Didn't know the link to it would be that long.
[02:43]  * fabio test
[03:03] <phoenix_firebrd> the right side panel that contains option for the file search using nepomuk is disabled when searching in an ntfs drive
[03:42] <dusty_> hi all
[05:20] <hellslinger> anyone ever notice unwanted click/drags?
[05:54] <DasKreech> hellslinger: like a window sliding?
[05:55] <sundar_> hi
[05:55] <sundar_> i want configure nat by using two interfaces
[05:56] <sundar_> can someone please help me how to do with ubuntu
[05:59] <DasKreech> you mean make a gateway?
[05:59] <sundar_> yes
[06:01] <sundar_> i am reading a howto, which explains using two network cards. in my case i am using a 3G modem as one of the interfaces.
[06:01] <sundar_> www.howtoforge.com/nat_iptables
[06:08] <DasKreech> sundar_: that's a Redhat implementation
[06:10] <sundar_> DasKreech, yes. one of the comments posted says the iptables service once restarted am back to step 1
[06:10] <sundar_> i am little confused
[06:10] <DasKreech> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/23 is better suited for Ubuntu you can substitute your network interfaces there as needed
[06:11] <sundar_> thanks, ill check this out
[06:18] <sundar_> DasKreech, this one is easier. i'll try this out
[06:42] <DasKreech> sundar_: how's it going?
[06:42] <sundar_> DasKreech, i have configured my 3G modem connection as ppp0 interface
[06:43] <sundar_> i have replaced eth1 in the example to ppp0
[06:43] <sundar_> as that is going to my external IP
[06:44] <sundar_> but the problem is the default gateway as shown in the "route" comman
[06:44] <sundar_> command*
[06:45] <sundar_> should i delete the default gateway so that all traffic can go via ppp0 only?
[06:46] <sundar_> the machine is connected to internet through two interfaces now. one is eth0 and the other is ppp0
[06:47] <sundar_> i want only ppp0 to remain as the external IP, and the other as simply a LAN interface through which another client will use as gateway
[06:47] <DasKreech> sundar_: Yes
[06:47] <DasKreech> the route to outside should be setup to point to the external interface
[06:48] <sundar_> so my understanding is, i have to delete the default gateway shown in the route command. is it correct?
[06:48] <DasKreech> and for the other computer in the network they should have the route set to the internal IP address
[06:48] <sundar_> yes, that step is done with the help of the script given in the example
[06:49] <sundar_> ok, you mean the client should set a route entry with gateway's IP
[06:51]  * Shaan7 used to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing <-- easy steps
[06:51] <DasKreech> Yes the internal IP address
[06:52] <sundar_> DasKreech, configuration to be done in client machine is two fold. first, to remove existing default gateway. second is to add the new gateway's IP address. is this correct?
[06:54] <sundar_> DasKreech, in the gateway side, what is supposed to be the default gateway as shown in route
[06:55] <sundar_> DasKreech, I am setting up this configuration to use the NAT functionality. is connection sharing and NAT both the same?
[06:59] <mw46> anybody using 11.10 & pidgin? Pidgin does not seem to get notified when the wireless network is connected?! :-(
[07:03] <DasKreech> sundar_: for all general purposes yes
[07:04] <DasKreech> mw46: NM should send a connected event. If Pidgin is listening then it will be notified
[07:04] <mw46> it worked before my upgrade:-(
[07:05] <mw46> and skype still sees the notifications
[07:06] <DasKreech> sorry I'm not using pidgin so I may not be of much help
[07:06] <mw46> In the morning pigdin comes up and has a state of `waiting for network connection', but even after the network is connected, it looks like pidgin does not listen for the signal/event or something:-(
[07:07] <DasKreech> manually saying connect makes it connect though?
[07:08] <mw46> basically exiting & restarting pidgin and it connects fine:-(
[07:13] <mw46> ok, found that pidgin.im has an updated ubuntu package, I'm installing that now and will try it;-)
[07:13] <DasKreech> read the changelog?
[07:33] <mw46> DasKreech: nothing in there:-(
[07:36] <mw46> but the libpurple (most of pidgin) seems to try to talk to DBus and look for org.freedesktop.NetworkManager, so that all seems to br correct
[07:36] <mw46> so I'll try to the new version and see if it improves the situation, thanks
[07:39] <mw46> DasKreech: ok, the new pidgin version seems to help me;-)
[07:40] <mw46> ok, time to head out;-)
[07:46] <DasKreech> Great
[08:19] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[08:47] <sundar__> DasKreech, the method works now
[08:47] <sundar__> DasKreech, thanks for the link
[09:01] <coskun> hello
[09:02] <coskun> how can i create videodev ?
[10:14] <CQ> hello, I jsut apt-get upgraded and my taskbar at the bottom has completely disappeared ...
[10:15] <CQ> the upgrade was rather large, around 300 MB wiht lots of KDE updates
[10:16] <CQ> how do I get it back? the suggestion in a forum to remove the plasma rc file and rerun plasma can't work since I don't seem to have a plasma executable...
[10:17] <peace_> CQ: ?
[10:17] <peace_> CQ: type plasma-desktop
[10:17] <peace_> on konsole
[10:17] <CQ> just did, it dows nothing
[10:17] <CQ> does
[10:17] <peace_> CQ: $(type plasma-desktop)
[10:18] <CQ> killing it and readding it still gives no taskbar
[10:18] <CQ> plasma-desktop is hashed (/usr/bin/plasma-desktop)
[10:19] <peace_> CQ: ok
[10:19] <peace_> CQ: now.... just a second
[10:19] <peace_> CQ: remove the panel
[10:20] <peace_> CQ: then righ click add panel => default panel
[10:20] <CQ> uhm, which panel? I seem to have no panels, just the New Activity thing inthe top tight
[10:21] <CQ> ah, but add panel -> default panel
[10:21] <CQ> seems to have worked... want the info from the console to a pastebin?
[10:21] <peace_> CQ: now is it fixed?
[10:22] <CQ> yep, everything looks good.
[10:22] <peace_> nice. bye
[10:23] <CQ> thanks
[10:23] <peace_> http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-plasma-desktopqa1699
[10:24] <peace_> ups
[10:45] <aiguu> :D
[10:57] <Over_> can somebody tell me how can i view all process
[10:57] <Over_> ??
[10:57] <frogonwheels> htop ?
[10:58] <frogonwheels> umm. ctrl+esc
[10:58] <frogonwheels> Over_: ^^
[10:58] <Over_> thanks
[11:00] <frogonwheels> oh wow.  .xsession-errors  176G
[11:30] <tkennedy> I'm having an issue with openconnect and Network Manager. I've installed the packages for openconnect but network-manager isn't showing it in the list?
[11:31] <tkennedy> I'm not sure what the issue is...is there a problem with network-manager and openconnect?
[11:31] <tkennedy> I'm on 11.10 fresh install
[11:31] <hazamonzo> hey folks. Whats the pastebin (for images ) url for the kde pastbin desktop widget?
[11:31] <hazamonzo> I think mine might be incorrect. its not accpting images anymore
[12:29] <Guest84735> identify raspoutine
[12:31] <Nootilus> hello everyone
[12:32] <Nootilus> can someone help me with a fresh install of Kubuntu 11.10 on an asus eeePC 1201N?
[12:34] <Nootilus> ah, no one?
[12:34] <Nootilus> I might not be at the right hour :(
[12:44] <Nootilus> ok, be back later then
[12:44] <Nootilus> bye
[12:53] <folsto> Hi, I just got a update notification saying I have 208 upgradeable packages! can anyone tell whats happening. I have been connecting to internet eince past few days, updates were usually one or two, but 208?
[12:58] <sara_> v
[13:06] <ubuntu_> e
[13:07] <Xunil> 7j #ubuntu
[13:07] <Xunil> sorry
[13:16] <uthix> hello
[13:41] <pablo_> hi everyone!
[13:41] <pablo_> i have a question if you are so kind to answer
[13:42] <pablo_> does anyone uses kubuntu 11.10 on a multimonitor config?
[13:42] <pablo_> if so, do you know how to asign a virtual desktop for every monitor?
[13:44] <pablo_> booo
[13:45] <pablo_> the number of people connected made me believe at least someone was on the channel
[14:16] <floown> hello
[14:17] <bazhang> hi
[14:18] <floown> I want to switch my revelation database to a keepassx database, how can I do please? The xml import doesn't work… I have found this script http://www.keepassx.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2389 but I don't know how to patch (sorry) and execure the script. Someone can help me please?
[14:19] <floown> * execute
[14:22] <BarkingFish> can someone please tell me how to access the packages from an old version of kubuntu so that I may download one and its dependencies please?
[14:22] <BarkingFish> I want to get hold of kmail from 11.04
[14:23] <bazhang> downgrade?
[14:23] <BarkingFish> I've tried going to archive.ubuntu.com and been unable to find the actual deb files to download them
[14:23] <BarkingFish> no
[14:23] <BarkingFish> I want to try and get them to work on 11.10
[14:23] <bazhang> mix versions?
[14:23] <BarkingFish> yep
[14:23] <BarkingFish> that's the thing
[14:23] <bazhang> thats a downgrade
[14:24] <bazhang> wait, you have 11.10
[14:24] <BarkingFish> whatever then, I don't mind, I just need the files to download, I want to know where to get them from :)
[14:24] <bazhang> and want a earlier release?
[14:24] <BarkingFish> of just kmail, nothing else
[14:24] <bazhang> packages.ubuntu.com ?
[14:24] <BarkingFish> brilliant, thank you :)
[14:26] <BarkingFish> I'm looking basically for the version of kmail which wasn't broken, and the last one I remember was in natty, prior to my upgrade to oneiric
[14:49] <Nootilus> hello there
[14:49] <bazhang> hi
[14:49] <Nootilus> hello bazhang
[14:49] <Nootilus> maybe you can help me? :)
[14:50] <bazhang> Nootilus, ask and see
[14:52] <Nootilus> bazhang, I've done a fresh install of Kubuntu 11.10 on an asus eeePC 1201N. Usually with other Ubuntu derivated distros, I have to download a nvidia driver for the vcard, using the 3rd-party drivers app, you know? But in Kubuntu I can't see that app.
[14:52] <Nootilus> so I can't tell if the nvidia drivers have been pre-installed or if I have to do something special to get it
[14:53] <bazhang> !find jockey
[14:53] <bazhang> !info jockey-kde
[14:53] <bazhang> Nootilus, that one^ ?
[14:53] <Nootilus> not sure... What should I do exactly?
[14:53] <Nootilus> sorry, your jockey thing puzzled me :)
[14:54] <bazhang> install it  I guess?
[14:54] <Nootilus> ah, hold on
[14:54] <Nootilus> I check this
[14:55] <Nootilus> it's already installed, why can't I find it in the apps menu?
[14:56] <Nootilus> oh got it
[14:56] <Nootilus> sorry my fault... I'm not used with the kde menu system... I was totally lost :)
[14:56] <bazhang> heh
[14:56] <Nootilus> anyway thank you. Now I can download the drivers for my laptop
[14:57] <Nootilus> thank you bazhang
[14:57] <bazhang> I'm not logged into kde4 at the moment, nor do I use the prop dirvers, sorry I could not help more Nootilus
[14:57] <Nootilus> you helped :)
[14:57] <bazhang> err drivers whoops
[14:57] <bazhang> ah good then :)
[14:57] <Nootilus> anyway it seems I have another issue... Why it can't memorize my wifi password?
[14:58] <Nootilus> it seems it tries to connect before retrieving autorisation from the keyholder
[14:59] <Nootilus> whatever :)
[15:01] <Nootilus> thank you again, bazhang
[15:01] <Nootilus> see you later
[15:01] <bazhang> ok bye
[15:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:16] <Danno7> having a problem accessing a hard drive I just formatted. Says I don't have permission which is wierd since I partitioned it with this same user
[15:18] <Danno7> anyone here?
[15:19] <bazhang> yes?
[15:20] <bazhang> ah he quit
[15:21] <BluesKaj> instant gratification is becoming a more prevalent ...no patience , even for a minutr :)
[15:22] <bazhang> that was really fast, yes
[15:37] <administrateur> Hey all (by anonymous)
[15:54] <dies_irae> hei
[15:55] <dies_irae> rekonq is badly broken
[15:55] <dies_irae> above 5 tabs it crashes
[15:55] <dies_irae> web pages don't load at first etc
[15:56] <linuxd00d> Afternoon all!
[15:59] <Tm_T> dies_irae: hi, could you do detailed bug reports please?
[16:07] <dies_irae> Tm_T: I just did :/
[16:07] <Tm_T> dies_irae: thanks (:
[16:07] <Tm_T> dies_irae: url?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> rekonq crashes with flash content
[16:08] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: is that the only thing that crashes it?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> try youtube with it
[16:09] <dies_irae> BluesKaj: instant crash
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, so far at least , that's the reason I haven't been using it , plus the lack of a proper horizontal bookmarks toolbar, I hate sidebars
[16:10] <Tm_T> it's been crashing on me, but I have avoided flash so I don't know what's crashing it
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Tm_T,  java
[16:12] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:12] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: shouldn't be either, mediawiki pages
[16:13] <BluesKaj> have you tried the HTML5 trial on youtube?
[16:13] <Tm_T> I don't use youtube, so no I haven't
[16:15] <BluesKaj> HTML5 replaces flash and other web graphics
[16:25] <BluesKaj> rekonq is hopeless , crashes with any kind of video content here
[16:26] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: which version of KDE are you running?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> 4.8
[16:27] <BarkingFish> ah
[16:28] <BarkingFish> I'm in 4.7.4 and it's working fine here
[16:28] <BluesKaj> also on 12.04 Kubuntu, but rekopnq was hopeless on 11.10 as well with kde 4.7
[16:30] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  hopeless in that has terrible ergonomics from my POV
[16:30] <BarkingFish> I agree, the ergonomics of the whole program suck nuts, but it works with video, so I don't mind
[16:31] <BluesKaj> going backwards instead of forwards with that dumb sidebar bookmarks bar for example
[16:32] <dies_irae> lawl, URL drop down search engines brokon as well
[16:32] <dies_irae> reqonk couldn't be more brokon
[16:42] <dies_irae> my last messages went through??
[16:42] <dies_irae> reqonk causing irc lag :/
[16:44] <James147> dies_irae: how can we know without knowing what you last message was ?
[16:44] <dies_irae> lawl, URL drop down search engines brokon as well
[16:44] <dies_irae> reqonk couldn't be more brokon
[16:44] <James147> yeah
[16:44] <dies_irae> www.google.com: Socket operation timed out
[16:45] <dies_irae> that ^^^
[16:45] <James147> not that last
[16:54] <peace_> James147: jo
[16:56] <James147> Heya peace_
[16:57]  * BluesKaj wonders about HUD for Kubuntu , http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/939
[17:07] <James147> BluesKaj: looks like krunner with the ability to search application menus
[17:08]  * James147 dosnt see why it would be to hard to create a krunner plugin to support that ^^
[17:09] <BluesKaj> yeah , seems very similar
[17:09] <BluesKaj> James147, ^
[17:10] <pangolin> BluesKaj: you in the mood for helping me unhose my system? :)
[17:10] <James147> BluesKaj: might be worth submitting the idea to the kde brainstorm
[17:11] <James147> pangolin: ask the chanel, then anyone can help you :)
[17:11] <pangolin> Morning. I installed windows 7 yesterday on a separate HDD and then I needed to reinstall grub2 to my Ubuntu HDD but now when I try to boot I get an error: NO INTERNAL DISKS PLEASE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER. This happens with both HDD's present and also when I remove either of the HDD's to try and boot either OS. any ideas what I need to do here?
[17:12] <James147> pangolin: what did you do to reinstall grub2?
[17:12]  * James147 sounds like the mbr is missing from the disks you are tring to boot
[17:12] <pangolin> I followed the !grub2 instructions on the wiki
[17:13] <pangolin> James147: I also tried reinstalling ubuntu fresh (keeping my /home intact) but still get the same error
[17:14] <BluesKaj> sorry pangolin , gotta go for a while ...BBL , James147 probly has more insight into grub probs with 2hdds than me.
[17:14] <James147> pangolin: and you install grub to /dev/sdX and not /dev/sdXY?
[17:14] <pangolin> James147: correct. I mounted /sda to /mnt and then installed grub to /sda
[17:14] <pangolin> err /sda1 to /mnt
[17:15] <James147> pangolin: is the boot disk order in the bois correct (most modern computer have a key you can press to let you pick which device you want to boot from, its quicker for testing)
[17:15] <pangolin> when that didn't seem to work I decided to do a clean install and still the same error
[17:16] <pangolin> my boot order is, CD > USB > HDD
[17:16] <pangolin> has always worked for me before
[17:16] <James147> pangolin: that dosnt matter, which hdd is ir tring to boot first
[17:16] <pangolin> hmm
[17:16] <pangolin> good question
[17:17] <pangolin> I will need to reboot and check
[17:17] <James147> (some bois intergrate the two option, some let you pick the boot order as well as which hdd to boot from)
[17:18] <pangolin> ok I will reboot and see if the bios gives me the option to select the hdd to boot.
[17:18] <pangolin> thanks for the tip. I'll be back
[17:26] <pangolin> James147: Thank you so much!
[17:26] <pangolin> you can't imagine how relieved I am not to have lost my setup
[17:27] <pangolin> Now to get grub2 to see the Windows install on the other hdd
[17:28] <James147> pangolin: "update-grub" from iwthin kubuntu
[17:28] <James147> ^^ sudo in front of that
[17:29] <pangolin> doesn't seem like that hdd is being mounted
[17:29] <James147> dosnt need to be mounted
[17:29] <James147> (as far as i know)
[17:29] <pangolin> then update-grub is not adding Windows 7
[17:30] <pangolin> anyway, it is a priority. I'm just happy I can boot up.
[17:30] <pangolin> err it is not*
[17:31] <James147> pangolin: but its a problem, and this chanel is for fixing problems :)
[17:32] <pangolin> James147: hehe true. going to upgrade to 11.10 first and worry about the windows thing later
[17:32] <James147> pangolin: is os-prober installed?
[17:32] <pangolin> it is
[17:33] <dies_irae> any ideas why reqonk messing with TCP/IP that badly??
[17:33] <pangolin> in the middle of the upgrade now. don't want to mess around too much
[17:33] <James147> pangolin: well, you can always add a custom entry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom_Menu_Entries
[17:36] <dies_irae> reqonk was interfering with internet connection!!
[17:40] <BluesKaj> pangolin,  try this to add windows to your grub menu, sudo os-prober,  then run , sudo update-grub
[17:41] <pangolin> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815557/
[17:43] <BluesKaj> pangolin,  hmm, doesn't seem to have picked up the windows partition :(
[17:43] <pangolin> nope.
[17:44] <pangolin> not sure why but I'll try adding it manually later
[17:44] <pangolin> got about 20 minutes for the upgrade to 11.10 to complete
[17:47] <BluesKaj> pangolin,  ok, maybe James147 has some insight about the  os-prober command
[17:49] <pangolin> BluesKaj: right now I am just happy that I am able to boot into an OS. I thought I somehow managed to fry my HDD or something.
[17:50] <BluesKaj> pangolin,  no it's just a different set of problems with grub when dealing with 2 hdds
[17:53] <BluesKaj> pangolin, I use just one OS , dual booting is simple enough with one hdd , but for some reason grub has recognition difficulty with 2hdds.
[18:00] <taylor> hey
[18:06] <bazhang> hi
[18:15] <dies_irae> anyone investigating how reqonk interferes with internet ??
[18:16] <BluesKaj> reqonk interferes with internet ? dies_irae , it's a browser , what do you mean?
[18:19] <dies_irae> BluesKaj: kept disconnecting irssi from freenode and saw weird loading behaviour.
[18:19] <dies_irae> something is very wrong with it.
[18:21] <dies_irae> if I try again i'll get irc lagging.
[18:23] <dies_irae> that's just at molecular level. How about DNA??
[18:23] <dies_irae> oops wrong chan
[18:26] <BluesKaj> dies_irae,  do you mean when rekonq launches it disconnects irssi ?
[18:27] <dies_irae> BluesKaj: now running firefox and irssi is not disconnecting nor I have problems with loading pages.
[18:27] <dies_irae> I am telling you something messed up with reqonk
[18:28] <BluesKaj> dies_irae,  yes , it crashes a lot here too , but i don't even bother with trying it anymore ...it needs a lot of work
[18:29] <dies_irae> exactly what I am saying, I don't get it why is default icon in the menu
[18:35] <BluesKaj> dies_irae,  set your default browser in system settings>default apps>web browser and in the terminal , sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[18:35] <dies_irae> BluesKaj: I am on liveUSB
[18:36] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:36] <dies_irae> and the flash drive installation was epically failed.
[18:37] <dies_irae> is there a way to install kubuntu like Gentoo?? Something that's impossible to fail and bugless??
[18:38] <BluesKaj> dies_irae,  I always use the alternate install
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !alternate | dies_irae
[18:39] <BluesKaj> dies_irae,  doubt that even gentoo is not impossible to fail
[18:41] <dies_irae> BluesKaj: technically is impossible to fail an install. There's no script doing it or a program. Is like you are laying down stuff by hand on the hard drive.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> dies_irae,  never did a gentoo , but 'impossible' is a very hard to believe from my POV.
[19:42] <joan_> please is there any way of getting to the network manager icon without using the mouse, only through the keyboard?
[19:47] <froglegs> joan_:  maybe you could make shortcut key to it
[19:50] <joan_> the problem is that I have my brother on the other side of the phone and he has the problem: he has lost the mouse and the pad in his laptop and we're trying to get to the network manager icon
[19:51] <joan_> to connect to the internet and end the update that is causing the problem, froglegs
[19:52] <froglegs> you can reboot the system
[20:01] <joan_> froglegs it does not make any difference
[20:02] <froglegs> to reboot the system changes nothing?
[20:05] <Anonymous_> Hey all
[20:05] <smittix> evening all
[20:05] <Anonymous_> any new users of unix ?!
[20:08] <BluesKaj> joan, to use the keyboard without the mouse , if you can launch system settings>input devices>Mouse>Mouse navigation tab>move pointer with keyboard number pad
[20:27] <viKtor> is anyone here?
[20:29] <joan_> do you know how to start kubuntu and get the grub kernels menu window?
[20:30] <rork> !anyone | viKtor
[20:30] <viKtor> ok is it possible to set krunner keybind just for a single key as the windows one?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> joan_,  hold down the shift key after the bios scrn until the grub menu loads
[20:32] <joan_> thanx
[20:36] <viKtor> ¿?¿?¿?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> viKtor,  have a question ?
[20:41] <viKtor> BluesKaj: yeah
[20:41] <BluesKaj> then ask
[20:41] <viKtor> i would like to set just the "windows" key to run krunner
[20:42] <viKtor> but i don't find the way to make a single touch keybind working
[20:45] <viKtor> BluesKaj:
[20:46] <toumbo> Does anyone know how to get notifications when someone posts on a channel? Quassel
[20:47] <BluesKaj> viKtor,  sorry I don't know how , alt+f2 works for me , or right click on the desktop and choose run command
[20:47] <BluesKaj> tuo watched nicks in your client
[20:47] <BluesKaj> toumbo, ^
[20:48] <excognac> Hi all!!! Back to KDE and loving it' 4.7.4 is really nice, finally!
[20:49] <viKtor> excognac: haha for me it's my first time in kde... it just works, hate what unity and gnome shell did, still look like old OS :S
[20:50] <toumbo> BluesKaj I don't understand..I don't want to get notified only when somone types my nick
[20:50] <toumbo> I want to get notified for the whole activity
[20:51] <BluesKaj> toumbo,  i thought you meant a particular nick or person , not your nick
[20:52] <excognac> viKtor: yeah, although I don't really care with the look but the efficiancy and speed. Kde rocks. Unity is mistery
[20:52] <toumbo> BluesKaj that's ok!I just wanted to get notified even when someone doesn't tells my name... pfff
[20:53] <toumbo> BluesKaj with notify bubble
[20:56] <BluesKaj> toumbo,  quassel isn't my client of choice , but give a minute or 2
[20:57] <toumbo> BluesKaj I used to use pidgin but it doesn't fit with kde I think
[20:58] <toumbo> One day I managed to do with tat client on unity natty
[20:59] <toumbo> BluesKaj I used to use pidgin but it doesn't fit with kde I think
[20:59] <toumbo> One day I managed to do with tat client on unity natty
[20:59] <toumbo> But I don't know how to do this on oneiric
[21:02] <BluesKaj> toumbo,  on quassel just choose highlight in "settings">configure quassel
[21:13] <sypher> sera a tutti
[21:18] <djustice> curious, does anyone here know the real difference between kdesu and sudo?
[21:20] <ts2> kdesu(do) is designed to set up the environment correctly for GUI apps
[21:20] <ts2> mostly making sure sudo sets $HOME correctly
[21:20] <ts2> but also setting up X authentication
[21:20] <djustice> ts2: i need to know details. can you link me somewhere?
[21:20] <ts2> !kdesu
[21:21] <djustice> my 'sudo app' is causing dbus/threading weirdness, but 'kdesu app' works fine.
[21:21] <djustice> awesome. will read. thanks!
[21:21] <ts2> well dbus won't work if you just use sudo, as the dbus session information is stored in the users environment (and sudo resets the environment by default)
[21:22] <ts2> the system bus is still accessible, but not the session bus, which is per-user/session
[21:23] <djustice> wahhh. thanks again!! exactly what i needed.
[21:30] <viKtor> hey guys how can i configure gmail in kontact?
[22:19] <djustice> i need kdesu to run a program passwordless.. i've set it to use sudo, but can't seem to get my sudoers file correct.
[22:22] <djustice> erf.. 'sudo app' runs without password.. 'kdesu app' still wants a password..
[22:35] <BluesKaj> !sudoers | djustice
[22:35] <BluesKaj> !sudoer
[22:36] <BluesKaj> !info sudoer
[22:36] <BluesKaj> !info sudoers
[22:36] <BluesKaj> wow
[22:36] <Unit193> !sudo | BluesKaj
[22:36] <BluesKaj> useless bot
[22:37] <djustice> BluesKaj: i know those..
[22:37] <BluesKaj> no Unit193 , /etc/sudoers
[22:37] <djustice> i need to make kdesu work, without passwd
[22:39] <zulis> n00b needs help... moun package installer message ;-p
[22:45] <BluesKaj> zulis,  forget muon , it's broken
[22:47] <frogonwheels> what's up with the package managers... muon is broken.  aptitude can't handle multiarch..
[22:48] <frogonwheels> BluesKaj: you got a suggestion for which one to use (i'm a bit lost without aptitude, being using it for years)
[22:54] <djustice> pacman. akabei. tar and ln -s. dunno.
[22:57] <dies_irae> is there a firefox with QT??
[23:01] <asfyxia> dies_irae, afaik there isn't, ubfortunately...
[23:02] <dies_irae> there should, there's a cocoa version of firefox, no reason why not QT
[23:06] <asfyxia> Ok, you made me curious, so i asked aunt Google... it's there, but still some experimental, what i can see. It's not exactly the repo version.
[23:06] <dies_irae> asfyxia: awsome!!
[23:07] <asfyxia> expect some crashes here and there...
[23:07] <dies_irae> link?
[23:08] <asfyxia> well, i just closed the tab, but when you hit 'firefox' and 'qt4' in the searchbar, you'll have plenty to read ;-)
[23:09] <dies_irae> asfyxia: I want the one u read
[23:09] <asfyxia> just a minute...
[23:09] <dies_irae> u wont share ?? :'(
[23:12] <asfyxia> Ok, a recent one: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/373568/mozilla_revives_qt_port_firefox_4/
[23:13] <asfyxia> There are more, as you can read it's still a little bit bleeding edge...
[23:14] <dies_irae> asfyxia: u wont share?? --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGz8jcbJjRw
[23:21] <asfyxia> dies_irae, I gave you a link, just scroll a little upward... cute porcupine on the video btw, is it's name lady Gaga? ;-)
[23:26] <dies_irae> asfyxia: I was kidding
[23:27] <dies_irae> damn!!
[23:27] <dies_irae> oops wrong chan
[23:50] <dies_irae> is the mailing list online?
[23:50] <dies_irae> wrong chan