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| pitti | Good morning | 05:07 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:42 |
| BigWhale | morning ... | 06:46 |
| RAOF | Aloha didrocks! | 06:46 |
| didrocks | good morning BigWhale, RAOF! | 06:47 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 06:54 |
| pitti | desrt: just sent my GNOME membership application :) | 06:55 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti, how are you? | 06:55 |
| pitti | hey RAOF, how are you? | 06:55 |
| RAOF | pitti: Pretty good. Yourself? | 06:55 |
| pitti | didrocks: quite fine, thanks! | 06:55 |
| desrt | pitti: nice :) | 06:57 |
| RAOF | To the cinema! | 07:03 |
| * didrocks goes from FTBFS to FTBFS with new compiz since yesterday :/ | 07:05 | |
| pitti | RAOF: what will you see? | 07:09 |
| pitti | vuntz: bonjour! | 07:14 |
| pitti | vuntz: for gnome bug 642692, I wondered how "committed" you are to the wnck_shutdown() API name | 07:14 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 642692 in general "Provide wnck_shutdown() (?)" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642692 | 07:14 |
| pitti | vuntz: if the name is fixed, and we just need to discuss the implementation, I would apply that patch to our packages already for broader testing and usage in notify-osd | 07:15 |
| pitti | vuntz: but I wouldn't like to vendor-patch an API change without your consent | 07:15 |
| pitti | didrocks: I think I already asked, but I forgot, sorry: What is "Provide some user journey in manual test case form" all about? (johnlea's WI on desktop-p-unity-quality) | 07:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: John as a lot of "user journey" about "how to start an application", "how to reveal the launcher", and such. He was supposed to turn them into test cases | 07:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: but I covered them in my test cases at the end | 07:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: right, was just going to ask -- sounds a lot like the manual test cases you have already? | 07:19 |
| pitti | didrocks: so I guess we can drop this one? | 07:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I think we can safely drop it | 07:19 |
| pitti | done, thanks | 07:20 |
| didrocks | pitti: the test cases that are not covered are the multimonitor and multitouch ones | 07:20 |
| didrocks | multimonitor -> I'm waiting on the new work done upstream | 07:20 |
| didrocks | multitouch -> I need time… :/ | 07:20 |
| vuntz | pitti: name is going to stay, feel free to push it | 07:23 |
| vuntz | pitti: I'll try to make time to look at it today/tomorrow | 07:24 |
| pitti | vuntz: ok, will upload it to Ubuntu then; merci! | 07:35 |
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| pitti | didrocks: I recently noticed that the launcher doesn't appear if there is a window underneath it; I just confirmed in a guest session | 08:53 |
| pitti | didrocks: do you mind a quick try on your machine, to ensure it's not something I picked up from a PPA? | 08:53 |
| pitti | go to an empty desktop | 08:53 |
| pitti | open a window (tried with terminal and devhelp, doesn't matter) | 08:53 |
| pitti | move it below the launcher | 08:53 |
| pitti | press Windows key -> launcher doesn'ta ppear | 08:53 |
| didrocks | pitti: it works here | 08:54 |
| didrocks | pitti: it doesn't appear at all, it's not a stacking issue? | 08:54 |
| pitti | right | 08:54 |
| didrocks | hum, I don't get this here (application maximized or not) | 08:55 |
| pitti | didrocks: ok, thanks for trying | 08:55 |
| * pitti downloads today's desktop CD and tries there | 08:55 | |
| didrocks | pitti: but your issue remember of one I had at some point | 08:56 |
| didrocks | on oneiric | 08:56 |
| didrocks | so, there is maybe some screwed state around | 08:56 |
| pitti | happens for me in a freshly started guest session | 08:56 |
| pitti | start session, ctrl+alt+t, move, press Windows key | 08:57 |
| pitti | hm, wait | 08:57 |
| pitti | windows+number also doesn't work any more | 08:57 |
| pitti | didrocks: argh, silly me; ignore me, please | 08:57 |
| didrocks | pitti: oh? what was it? | 08:58 |
| pitti | seems I accidentally switched my keyboard from "windows" into "Mac" mode | 08:58 |
| didrocks | :) | 08:58 |
| pitti | there's a weird key combination to do that, and sometimes I hit that | 08:58 |
| pitti | *blush*, sorry | 08:58 |
| didrocks | *phew* no worry ;) | 08:58 |
| * didrocks hugs pitti | 08:58 | |
| * pitti hugs didrocks | 08:58 | |
| seb128 | hey | 09:08 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 09:08 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, how are you? | 09:08 |
| pitti | quite fine, thanks! how about you? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 09:09 |
| didrocks | saltu seb128 | 09:14 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 09:14 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 09:23 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 09:26 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 09:26 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 09:27 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm good thanks. how are you? | 09:27 |
| chrisccoulson | got the tbird and ffox final builds to do today, but that should be easy :) | 09:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks | 09:28 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson | 09:32 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 09:32 |
| mvo | seb128: remember that we talked about the segfault in gtk image with the new iconhelper stuff? I have a tiny testcase now http://paste.ubuntu.com/815206/ - obviously what the testcase is doing is not correct and yet it would be nice if gtk would not segfault here, especially not when using gtk :/ - essentially the problem is that icon_helper is NULL on destory and that causes the segv | 10:03 |
| mvo | seb128: fwiw, oneiric did not segv in the testcase | 10:03 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey, right the old code was doing less in destroy | 10:04 |
| seb128 | mvo, can you open a bug with the testcase? | 10:20 |
| seb128 | mvo, btw is there any chance you look at s-c with the new webkit? | 10:20 |
| seb128 | mvo, nothing else is having an issue, I wonder if that's a s-c bug or if you could come with a small testcase | 10:20 |
| mvo | seb128: where can I download it? desktop ppa? | 10:20 |
| seb128 | mvo, yes | 10:20 |
| seb128 | mvo, ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa | 10:21 |
| mvo | seb128: sure I can file a bug, I don't have much hopes other than "WONTFIX" though, this is why I did not do it already | 10:21 |
| seb128 | mvo, well you seem to care enough to write a testcase, so we can as well have the bug for the record | 10:21 |
| seb128 | even if it's wontfix it still show a problem we might hit again | 10:21 |
| * mvo nods | 10:22 | |
| pitti | RAOF: FYI, milestone "precise-beta-1" does not exist (it's ubuntu-12.04-*); but as b1 is the default milestone for that blueprint I just merged it with "work items:" | 11:45 |
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| BigWhale | A question... Silly but important one! Is ~/Documents in Slovenia (or Germany or whatever) also ~/Documents or it gets translated? | 12:30 |
| pitti | BigWhale: it does get translated, but not quite at runtime | 12:32 |
| pitti | BigWhale: see ~/.config/user-dirs.{dirs,locale} | 12:32 |
| pitti | BigWhale: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60xdg-user-dirs-update checks for locale changes, or "first login" creation of those | 12:33 |
| BigWhale | pitti, ah, thanks! | 12:34 |
| pitti | didrocks: would it be okay for me to upload an unity-2d to drop the invalid "use-strut" from /usr/share/GConf/gsettings/unity-2d.convert ? | 12:41 |
| didrocks | pitti: sure, you need to push the same change back to lp:unity-2d as well though | 12:42 |
| pitti | didrocks: hm, can't push to the branches | 12:42 |
| pitti | Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-2d-team/unity-2d/oneiric | 12:42 |
| didrocks | pitti: is it invalid? I didn't follow the story | 12:42 |
| pitti | that seems out of date, and a /precise doesn't exist | 12:42 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, it's just lp:unity-2d | 12:42 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes, it makes gsettings-data-convert crash and thus breaks the settings migrations for every upgrader | 12:43 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, no separate upstream/packaging branches? | 12:43 |
| didrocks | pitti: upstream really wanted the packaging to be in upstream trunk | 12:43 |
| pitti | didrocks: normal MP, or what is the procedure these days? | 12:43 |
| didrocks | and that was on the armel time (when the armel team maintained it) | 12:43 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, normal MP | 12:43 |
| pitti | will also fix Vcs-Bzr: while I'm at it | 12:44 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 12:44 |
| didrocks | IIRC, use-strut was for the autohide mode | 12:44 |
| * didrocks checks the schema | 12:44 | |
| didrocks | hum, that's weird | 12:46 |
| didrocks | pitti: wait, pinging greyback | 12:46 |
| didrocks | ah, not online right now :/ | 12:46 |
| pitti | ah, ok; committed locally for now | 12:46 |
| didrocks | those keys should still be there, hence my surprise | 12:47 |
| pitti | grepping for "strut" there is not much | 12:47 |
| didrocks | yeah | 12:47 |
| pitti | no querying from gsettings, anyway, so it doesn't look like an omission in the schema | 12:47 |
| didrocks | pitti: it's not, ther is stil super-key-enable | 12:47 |
| pitti | didrocks: r804 | 12:47 |
| didrocks | pitti: but hide-mode is not available as well | 12:47 |
| pitti | This branch removes the use-struts dconf option and enables struts automatically when the user selects hide-mode 0 (never hide). | 12:48 |
| didrocks | pitti: do you have "hide-mode" in the schema? | 12:48 |
| pitti | yes | 12:48 |
| didrocks | urgh, dconf-editor doesn't show it here | 12:48 |
| * didrocks pokes gsettings directly | 12:48 | |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, got it there :) | 12:49 |
| pitti | r804 doesn't look like an accident, anyway | 12:49 |
| didrocks | yeah, makes sense, I was afraid about not seeing "hide-mode" anymore as well | 12:49 |
| didrocks | but seems a dconf-editor issue | 12:49 |
| didrocks | so yeah, just MP please :) | 12:50 |
| pitti | https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/unity-2d/fix-gsettings-migration/+merge/89882 | 12:51 |
| pitti | didrocks: I suppose I shouldn't upload before it is merged | 12:53 |
| didrocks | pitti: if this can wait, yes :) | 12:53 |
| didrocks | if not, please go ahead, I'll erase in next upload | 12:54 |
| pitti | a day or two is certainly okay, it's just a major regression since december | 12:54 |
| pitti | fortunately we have test cases for this since yesterday :) | 12:54 |
| nessita | hello everyone! I saw Chris email re: X updates... and I see all the updates in apt. Is it safe to upgrade? | 12:55 |
| pitti | nessita: I've been running with those packages for a week or so, no trouble here | 12:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: heh, excellent! will be no thursday 2nd february for next release :) | 12:56 |
| pitti | Thinkpad X201/intel arrandale | 12:56 |
| pitti | didrocks: ugh, 2nd Febryary? | 12:56 |
| pitti | that's still quite some time | 12:57 |
| pitti | it's also the day of soft-freeze for alpha-2 | 12:57 |
| pitti | well, /me bows to the gods of workflows :) | 12:58 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, post alpha2 | 12:59 |
| pitti | didrocks: can we at least get this into alpha-2? | 12:59 |
| pitti | to avoid breaking the migration for every upgrader? | 12:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: the 2 february is the alpha2, isn't it? | 12:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: so please go ahead and upload | 12:59 |
| didrocks | pitti: next release will only be post alpha2 (freeze on monday) | 13:00 |
| pitti | ok, doing that then; I don't care much about preserving the changelog | 13:00 |
| pitti | didrocks: will that cause you lots of trouble? | 13:00 |
| * pitti is torn back and forth between pissing off you or upgraders | 13:00 | |
| didrocks | pitti: no no, don't worry, maybe I won't have the changelog in the next upload but that's it :) | 13:01 |
| pitti | yeah, I don't care much | 13:02 |
| pitti | seb128: ^ once I locally fix the unity-2d conversion schema on the live system, it stops crashing; so shotwell seems to be a corner case only, or already fixed? | 13:03 |
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| pitti | didrocks: hm, how do you build a source package from these branches these days? use --commit? | 13:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: with source 3 arguing at you for having distro-patch, right? | 13:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, not sure I understand the shotwell issue, the key they list in the .convert is in one of the .schemas, that case might be fixed by the gconf commit I showed earlier | 13:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: yes | 13:09 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, is that already 8in? | 13:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: remove source 3, I didn't for unity-2d yet but as it doesn't play well with merge-upstream… | 13:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, still on my list for today | 13:09 |
| didrocks | pitti: I did for others, especially thinking about you with SRU :) | 13:09 |
| pitti | seb128: so it's not that | 13:09 |
| pitti | didrocks: ok, will do that | 13:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, it doesn't happen every time for sure, I don't know what conditions trigger it, it's not as obvious as the unity-2d case where an invalid key was listed | 13:10 |
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| jbicha | good morning | 13:27 |
| jbicha | seb128: could we get librsvg updated to 2.35.1 to fix bug 920796? | 13:27 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 920796 in librsvg "gcompris FTBFS: 'RsvgSizeFunc' is deprecated [-Werror=deprecated-declarations]" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920796 | 13:27 |
| pitti | hey jbicha | 13:28 |
| seb128 | hey jbicha | 13:28 |
| seb128 | jbicha, guess we could, evfool did the update to .0 since .1 has an abi break which got revert in git after .1 but they didn't roll .2 yet | 13:29 |
| seb128 | jbicha, so if we do we need to backport extra fixes as well, I was going to wait for .2 | 13:29 |
| seb128 | see bug #918016 | 13:29 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 918016 in librsvg "Request to update to new upstream version 2.35.0" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/918016 | 13:29 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you want to do the update? or should I add it to my list? | 13:31 |
| jbicha | seb128: oh ok, I don't have upload permissions for it | 13:31 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I can sponsor it if you want ;-) | 13:32 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok I'll work on it today :) | 13:34 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 13:34 |
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| arand | Which resolutions for icons does Unity use by default? Is there any benefit to installing x64 and x128 versions if they are just resized versions of a x256 image? | 14:26 |
| pitti | arand: for most icons, it shouldn't matter; our standard icons are SVG anyway (and thus scale well to any size), and the launcher uses someting in the range of 48 to 64 | 14:27 |
| seb128 | arand, you can try asking #ubuntu-unity if you want details on what unity uses in the launcher and dash | 14:28 |
| arand | I already did so and got no responase :/ | 14:28 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey | 14:28 |
| desrt | hey | 14:29 |
| seb128 | arand, when? maybe it was a bad time and you should try again? | 14:29 |
| seb128 | desrt, some bugs,questions for you about the new appmenu show,hide xsettings based | 14:29 |
| arand | About an hour ago. | 14:29 |
| seb128 | desrt, if you have a few minutes | 14:29 |
| desrt | seb128: for you, i have _hours_ | 14:30 |
| desrt | :) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | desrt, ok, so first some people uninstall appmenu-gtk to get ride of the appmenu in oneiric | 14:30 |
| seb128 | desrt, interesting side effect is that they get the xsettings set because unity-panel-service is running but the menus not exported... | 14:31 |
| seb128 | desrt, in precise | 14:31 |
| seb128 | where should that be fixed? (trying to figure where to send the bug) | 14:31 |
| seb128 | in the gtk patch? | 14:31 |
| desrt | it should be fixed by telling them to stop running the appmenu indicator | 14:31 |
| seb128 | ok, so uninstalling indicator-appmenu as well I guess | 14:32 |
| desrt | well | 14:32 |
| seb128 | or installing back appmenu-gtk rather | 14:32 |
| arand | pitti: So there's no benefit to installing smaller icons unless they are actually made for that format? the gtk-icon-cache will generate and store appropriate resizes anyways (so there's no performance benefit)? | 14:32 |
| desrt | isn't the UBUNTU_MENUPROXDY env var only set by the xsession scripts in the case that appmenu-gtk is installed? | 14:32 |
| desrt | 80appmenu:export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY="libappmenu.so" | 14:32 |
| desrt | 80appmenu-gtk3:export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY="libappmenu.so" | 14:32 |
| seb128 | desrt, right, thing is that if you uninstall the gtk3 version only you still get the variable | 14:33 |
| desrt | nice house of cards here | 14:33 |
| seb128 | which is sort of a mixmatch broken config | 14:33 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, have you also seen the bug where people are running nautilus with sudo and not getting a menu at all? ;) | 14:33 |
| desrt | FML. | 14:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, shush, that's my second one | 14:33 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 14:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you are spoling my question! | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, that makes sense, no env variable set | 14:33 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:34 |
| chrisccoulson | kenvandine, right :) | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | annoying though | 14:34 |
| seb128 | desrt, so second is what chrisccoulson mentioned | 14:34 |
| seb128 | not specific to nautilus | 14:34 |
| seb128 | sudo gedit is the same | 14:34 |
| desrt | can we just kill our stupid users? | 14:34 |
| chrisccoulson | YES! | 14:34 |
| * kenvandine thinks we need a better way than setting env | 14:34 | |
| desrt | let's have the same conversation about what happens if you do X forwarding | 14:34 |
| seb128 | gsettings key? | 14:34 |
| desrt | i bet the answer is sort of the same! | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | desrt, if it wasn't for users, our job would be AWESOME :) | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | seb128, that would be better i think | 14:35 |
| pitti | arand: I don't think gtk-icon-cache caches pre-rendered icons | 14:35 |
| chrisccoulson | desrt, we need a "if (getuid() == 0) exit(-EDUMBASS)" in gtk | 14:35 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I don't think the issue is the environment, sudo doesn't strip it, does it? | 14:36 |
| seb128 | $ sudo sh -c "echo $UBUNTU_MENUPROXY" | 14:36 |
| seb128 | libappmenu.so | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | but we would need to disable them if libappmenu isn't loaded or the setting was disabled | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | seb128, how about gtksu ? | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | i think it might | 14:36 |
| seb128 | desrt has a point that Xorg forwarding will hit similar issues | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | sudo from a terminal i think is ok | 14:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well first, should stuff running with sudo have their menus exported or not? | 14:37 |
| desrt | i wonder if xsettings was the wrong approach | 14:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no it's not | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | but "Run as" kind of thing is broken | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sudo gedit leads to the bug since the xsettings is set for the session | 14:37 |
| seb128 | without consideration for the user | 14:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the menu showing in precise is done based on the xsettings | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:38 |
| desrt | seb128: for the first complaint my answer is that you need to educate your users (which will probably happen automatically on various forums) | 14:39 |
| desrt | seb128: for the second complaint my answer is... uhm... i dunno | 14:39 |
| seb128 | desrt, thrid one, is that gnotravex stopped having is gmenu showing in unity appmenu where that was working during the rally ... do you know why? | 14:39 |
| desrt | no. i find that most curious. | 14:39 |
| seb128 | :-( | 14:39 |
| desrt | oh. yes. | 14:40 |
| desrt | it makes sense, actually | 14:40 |
| seb128 | oh? | 14:40 |
| desrt | so gtk checks the xsettings property to determine if it should show the menu locally | 14:40 |
| desrt | it sees that shell-shows-menu is set and decides the answer is "no" | 14:40 |
| desrt | which means that the gtk module has nothing to rip out | 14:40 |
| seb128 | ok, makes sense | 14:41 |
| desrt | i think it may have been a mistake to use the same xsettings for two very similar but not-quite-the-same meanings | 14:41 |
| seb128 | desrt, you still plan to make appmenu consume gmenus this cycle? i.e to fix that? | 14:41 |
| seb128 | desrt, I don't care much about 1, but I'm a bit nervous about the sudo, fwd and gmenu on unity stuff for the lts ;-) | 14:42 |
| desrt | i wasn't planning on it, no | 14:42 |
| desrt | but it seems like i may have to | 14:42 |
| seb128 | desrt, so you think the current xsettings are not a good fit after all? | 14:43 |
| desrt | the trouble with any dbus-based scheme for knowing when to have the menus is that we get into that silly dancing-menu situation | 14:43 |
| desrt | xsettings are solid and there right from the start. nothing to wait for. | 14:43 |
| jbicha | epiphany also uses the new appmenu but I was leaving that in the gnome3 ppa until webkit migrates to precise | 14:44 |
| jbicha | I suspect several of the games will be using the new menu soon | 14:44 |
| desrt | jbicha: several already are | 14:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, right, gnotravex is my testcase in precise | 14:44 |
| desrt | seb128: for the record, i consider the gnotravex case to be the only truly worrying one | 14:44 |
| seb128 | desrt, doing sudo gedit and having no menu is a bit annoying as well, people do need to edit system files ;-) | 14:45 |
| desrt | seb128: i'm with chrisccoulson on this point | 14:45 |
| desrt | g_assert (getuid() != 0); | 14:45 |
| seb128 | what do you recommend? | 14:45 |
| seb128 | how do you tell users to edit system files? | 14:45 |
| desrt | nano? | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | vim! | 14:45 |
| seb128 | ... | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | :-) | 14:45 |
| seb128 | not very constructive guys :p | 14:46 |
| seb128 | I agree the nautilus case is on crack | 14:46 |
| seb128 | but I disagree the "edit files in etc using gedit" is | 14:46 |
| desrt | it's equally bad | 14:46 |
| desrt | that said, i don't think that this particular way of failing is really acceptable | 14:46 |
| desrt | again -- i'd prefer if it exploded in your face immediately | 14:47 |
| desrt | but i doubt you'll want to do that | 14:47 |
| jbicha | we should just crash when we fail! ;) | 14:47 |
| desrt | jbicha: GSettings-style software engineering practices :) | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | grrr | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | i hate that :) | 14:49 |
| ricotz | i know | 14:49 |
| desrt | what we need is a reliable way to determine if we are in the proper session | 14:49 |
| desrt | ie: detect these weird sudo/x11-fwd cases | 14:49 |
| desrt | interesting story | 14:49 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:49 |
| desrt | i was talking to christian hammond (chipx86) over the weekend | 14:49 |
| desrt | and he said that your gtk patching makes his life absolutely miserable | 14:49 |
| desrt | it interacts quite badly with vmware's native-window thing | 14:50 |
| desrt | because it rips the menu out of the window | 14:50 |
| desrt | but then vmware puts the window on the windows machine | 14:50 |
| seb128 | desrt, I'm not even sure why the sudo case is not working, would it make sense to use the current user session bus for sudo as well? | 14:50 |
| desrt | and the menu is nowhere to be found | 14:50 |
| desrt | so this is another related issue... | 14:50 |
| desrt | seb128: that's a really complicated question that you're not likely to get a satisfactory answer to | 14:50 |
| seb128 | ok, not the way to go then | 14:51 |
| desrt | seb128: mostly because any person who is qualified to answer that you ask it to will tell you "don't do that" | 14:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, I guess the sudo issue will happen the way under gnome-shell right? like if you run gnotravex it will get no menu right? | 14:52 |
| desrt | quite odd | 14:52 |
| desrt | DISPLAY makes it into sudo | 14:52 |
| desrt | but DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS does not | 14:52 |
| desrt | seb128: sudo gnotravex? :) | 14:52 |
| seb128 | desrt, yes, as a testcase :p | 14:52 |
| desrt | ya. i bet it's broken. | 14:53 |
| desrt | "don't do that" | 14:53 |
| pitti | desrt: DISPLAY is one of the few whitelisted sudo env vars which are kept | 14:53 |
| desrt | pitti: can we turn that off? :) | 14:53 |
| pitti | ./plugins/sudoers/env.c, initial_keepenv_table[] | 14:53 |
| pitti | desrt: err, no? | 14:53 |
| desrt | pitti: of all people i know that i don't need to have the "sudo [x application] is bad" conversation with you :) | 14:53 |
| pitti | desrt: well, you can turn it off for a particular call, or in /etc/sudoers, but we use it for $deity knows many things, and so do users | 14:54 |
| pitti | desrt: well, it's not that I like them, but people do use them.. | 14:54 |
| desrt | right. fair enough. | 14:54 |
| jbicha | oh wow, this hud things brings back memories of Office XP's personalized menus | 14:54 |
| desrt | so it's pretty simple | 14:54 |
| desrt | we need a robust mechanism for determining if the connecting client is in the "native context" of the x server | 14:55 |
| pitti | desrt: there was an entire project and library (libgksu/gksu/gksudo) written around it, so apparently it's useful | 14:55 |
| desrt | which in this case means "can connect to the same session bus" | 14:55 |
| pitti | desrt: although in the past it was a lot more important | 14:55 |
| pitti | desrt: like, "gksu synaptics" in a .desktop file | 14:55 |
| pitti | these days we have polkit and root-running d-bus backends and all that | 14:55 |
| pitti | we aren't quite at zero yet, but very close | 14:55 |
| desrt | pitti: indeed... that's what i was getting at | 14:55 |
| desrt | all of this will soon be an unpleasant memory | 14:56 |
| pitti | not that pkexec would be any better, though :) | 14:56 |
| pitti | (if you use it to launch X-ish stuff) | 14:56 |
| desrt | so i have a thought | 14:56 |
| desrt | unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-JZ8XIKEi1E,guid=80949262084dbaf430eea21d00000011 | 14:56 |
| desrt | instead of storing the shell-shows-app-menu property as a bool | 14:56 |
| desrt | we could store the dbus guid | 14:57 |
| desrt | and we only consider it valid if we have the same guid on our own session bus | 14:57 |
| pitti | desrt: in fact, I think I (well, apport) is one of the last bad guys, aside from checkbox-gtk and update-notifier | 14:57 |
| desrt | otherwise we ignore it, because obviously it won't be working anyway | 14:57 |
| desrt | that will catch every broken case | 14:57 |
| desrt | this may well break in a systemd future, though | 14:58 |
| pitti | jbicha: do you know whether freerdp will be uploaded to Debian soon? | 14:59 |
| pitti | jbicha: (you committed 1.0 to git, but wasn't uploaded yet) | 14:59 |
| seb128 | desrt, well let's do it in a way which works in the present and adapt it to what is available in the futur when that happens | 14:59 |
| desrt | seb128: i want to make sure that it continues to be possible to do this without synchronous dbus calls | 14:59 |
| seb128 | desrt, well I guess at this point it's better to switch to a bug or list discussion | 15:00 |
| desrt | interesting | 15:01 |
| desrt | gdbusconnection has a "guid" property | 15:01 |
| jbicha | pitti: the issue is that someone else proposed different packaging for freerdp and I'm not sure what of that needs to be added to git | 15:03 |
| jbicha | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=647498 | 15:03 |
| ubot2` | Debian bug 647498 in freerdp "freerdp: Consider packaging git snapshot?" [Wishlist,Open] | 15:03 |
| pitti | jbicha: ah, thanks; I'll have a look ASAP | 15:04 |
| jbicha | pitti: thanks | 15:04 |
| pitti | jbicha: probably tomorrow, though, need to run in about 20 mins | 15:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, will you be back for the meeting if there is one? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, or do you want me to handle it? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, well "it" the "ping people and see if we do a meeting" ;-) | 15:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, ignore the question I just read your reminder email after the first line :p | 15:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: what, there is content in the email reminder? | 15:06 |
| didrocks | it's just not a link to click on it? :p | 15:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, :-p | 15:07 |
| pitti | seb128: would be nice, thanks | 15:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I learnt my lesson ;-) | 15:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, will do | 15:07 |
| pitti | seb128: but I don't think we'll have one, no items until now | 15:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, it's likely we will not, still I can do a round of ping and see if any topic comes | 15:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, I know nessita want to make a call for endorsements for her per package upload application wikipage | 15:08 |
| nessita | yes I do! | 15:08 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:08 |
| nessita | shall I drop the request now then? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | nessita, you can mention it yes ;-) | 15:09 |
| seb128 | doesn't hurt | 15:09 |
| seb128 | we can mention it again at meeting time as well | 15:09 |
| nessita | hello everybody! If you can/want to invest some minutes, I would appreciate some endorsement for my per package upload application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NataliaBidart/PerPackageUploadApplication | 15:10 |
| nessita | and I will also welcome any suggestion/improvement that you consider necessary | 15:10 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm out for half an hour or so, will be back for the meeting time for sure ;-) | 15:19 |
| didrocks | hey cyphermox | 15:21 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: seems I can't activate the bluetooth anymore | 15:21 |
| cyphermox | hey didrocks | 15:21 |
| didrocks | are you aware about such issues? | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | how's it look? | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | there's tons of issues with bluetooth ;_; | 15:22 |
| didrocks | like, the menu just shows "bluetooth active/disable settings" | 15:22 |
| didrocks | not the long menu like before | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: are you using a usb bluetooth dongle or integrated? | 15:22 |
| didrocks | and if I start gnome-control-center | 15:22 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: it's integrated | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: problem would be that bluetoothd isn't running for you | 15:22 |
| didrocks | I can't enabled it | 15:23 |
| didrocks | ah | 15:23 |
| didrocks | should I launch it? | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | you can, and it's going to solve the issue for you | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | I'm still working on figuring out why the hell it won't start on boot like it was so clearly working so well before | 15:24 |
| pitti | good night everyone! need to run now | 15:24 |
| didrocks | have a good night pitti | 15:24 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: hum, it exits immediatly | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | it does? | 15:25 |
| didrocks | there is no verbose mode | 15:25 |
| didrocks | yeah | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | no, it daemonizes | 15:25 |
| didrocks | exit 0! | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | ps -ef | grep bluetoothd | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | ? | 15:25 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: nothing | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | f you want to start it with verbose, use /usr/sbin/bluetoothd -d -n | 15:26 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: oh, I got it | 15:26 |
| didrocks | disabling it in the indicator | 15:26 |
| didrocks | and enabling it again | 15:26 |
| didrocks | and now, I have a daemon | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | why was it not starting? any idea? | 15:26 |
| didrocks | reallly not :/ | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | the indicator can't do anything if the daemon isn't there :/ | 15:27 |
| didrocks | seems it thinked it was already there | 15:27 |
| cyphermox | ok | 15:27 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: there is three items in the indicator, isn't it? | 15:27 |
| didrocks | enable | 15:27 |
| didrocks | disable | 15:27 |
| didrocks | settings | 15:27 |
| didrocks | enable was already "on" | 15:27 |
| didrocks | not sure what I can provide you as debug info next time | 15:28 |
| seb128 | the indicator is buggy though, don't trust it, trust rather the control center | 15:28 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, control center didn't let me enabling it | 15:28 |
| seb128 | like the indicator indicates "bluetooth: on" on the 10v which has no bluetooth hardware | 15:28 |
| didrocks | it told just it's dsabled | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | didrocks: there should be more like 7-8 items in the indicator really | 15:28 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: now there is more | 15:28 |
| didrocks | but before, when it wasn't working, just those 3 | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | can't know what bluetooth you have until the daemon is running | 15:29 |
| cyphermox | brb, upstart debugging | 15:30 |
| seb128 | re | 16:34 |
| seb128 | sorry took a bit longer that I though (roads are busy at 5pm!) | 16:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, chrisccoulson, mterry, kenvandine, cyphermox, tkamppeter: it's meeting time | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | hey | 16:34 |
| seb128 | if you have anything to discuss | 16:34 |
| kenvandine | not really... posted on the wiki :) | 16:34 |
| didrocks | hey | 16:35 |
| seb128 | or any announcement | 16:35 |
| didrocks | nothing here | 16:35 |
| seb128 | nessita, ^ ;-) | 16:35 |
| mterry | Heyo | 16:35 |
| nessita | I have a request, is possible | 16:35 |
| nessita | if* | 16:35 |
| nessita | If anyone of you can/want to invest some minutes, I would appreciate some endorsement for my per package upload application: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NataliaBidart/PerPackageUploadApplication | 16:35 |
| kenvandine | nessita, awesome, sure! | 16:36 |
| nessita | kenvandine: thanks! :-D | 16:36 |
| seb128 | ok, nothing special to discuss, no meeting ;-) | 16:37 |
| seb128 | thanks everybody | 16:37 |
| nessita | thank you! | 16:37 |
| mterry | :) | 16:38 |
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| asac_ | tedg: what do you think about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815578/ ... its about allowing to preventing set up guessing magic based on seen_db_seen | 18:02 |
| * asac_ off on a call | 18:03 | |
| desrt | seb128: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2012-January/msg00029.html | 18:03 |
| desrt | (nb: this list is "read only" for non-release-team members, iirc) | 18:04 |
| seb128 | desrt, thanks ;-) | 18:05 |
| desrt | seb128: we're not *actively* trying to piss you guys off :) | 18:05 |
| cawel | Can I ask here a bug I am having with Ubuntu 11.10 regarding wireless ? | 18:07 |
| jp_wanN | cawel: you should go to ubuntu- [Your language code] chatroom, ubuntu-de e.g. | 18:09 |
| cawel | jp_wanN: thanks, will do. | 18:10 |
| jp_wanN | cawel: no problem ;) | 18:10 |
| cawel | seems like #ubuntu-en is invite-only :( | 18:10 |
| desrt | #ubuntu-en redirects to #ubuntu | 18:10 |
| desrt | some irc clients have trouble with redirects | 18:10 |
| desrt | so you can just join #ubuntu | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, mind if i drop the source format for unity-2d to 1.0? | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | i need to do a rebuild for libindicator abi bump | 18:12 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: pitti's version already dropped it, isnt it? | 18:23 |
| kenvandine | oh... maybe not in bzr? | 18:24 |
| * kenvandine checks branches | 18:24 | |
| didrocks | kenvandine: no, it's not in bzr | 18:24 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: don't use the bzr branch for unity-2d as it's in source | 18:24 |
| kenvandine | okie dokie | 18:24 |
| BigWhale | Python XDG has no calls for retrieving default folders? :( | 18:28 |
| kenvandine | yes it does | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | it is just a little odd :) | 18:29 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, look in gwibber for an example | 18:30 |
| asac_ | tedg: http://people.linaro.org/~asac/tmp/desktop-webmail-indicator.png ... thats what I mean with manual :) | 18:30 |
| kenvandine | BigWhale, gwibber/microblog/util/const.py | 18:30 |
| * kenvandine goes to lunch while pbuilder thrashes :) | 18:31 | |
| BigWhale | kenvandine, oh... no those I found. I need ~/Videos and ~/Documents :) | 18:33 |
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| tedg | asac_, I'm game on the feature, I'm just curious how one would set it then. | 19:17 |
| tedg | asac_, Do you mean by using a new desktop file? | 19:17 |
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| dobey | anyone using synergy on precise? | 19:48 |
| asac_ | tedg: yes... my desktop-webmail.desktop looks like this: | 19:50 |
| asac_ | X-Ayatana-Indicator-Setup-Type=Manual | 19:50 |
| asac_ | in [Desktop Entry] | 19:51 |
| tedg | asac_, I was expecting another line or two... did you get cut off? | 20:00 |
| asac_ | tedg: 20:50 < asac_> tedg: yes... my desktop-webmail.desktop looks like this: | 20:12 |
| asac_ | 20:51 < asac_> X-Ayatana-Indicator-Setup-Type=Manual | 20:12 |
| asac_ | 20:51 < asac_> in [Desktop Entry] | 20:12 |
| asac_ | tedg: thats the complete one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815725/ | 20:13 |
| tedg | asac_, So then how do you mark it setup? Or wait, you're just setting it so that it NEVER has the setup? | 20:15 |
| asac_ | tedg: right :) | 20:16 |
| asac_ | tedg: well. manual means: app is always correct or does it itself | 20:16 |
| asac_ | or something | 20:16 |
| asac_ | X-Ayatana-Indicator-Setup-Type=Manual -> manual mode avoids any heuristic and displays the shortcut group right away | 20:16 |
| jbicha | seb128: I posted the debdiff for librsvg at bug 920796 | 20:33 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 920796 in librsvg "gcompris FTBFS: 'RsvgSizeFunc' is deprecated [-Werror=deprecated-declarations]" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920796 | 20:33 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 20:48 |
| kenvandine | grrr | 21:12 |
| kenvandine | seb128, unity is the last FTBFS i have with the rebuild for libindicator | 21:13 |
| kenvandine | it is failing because of deprecations | 21:13 |
| kenvandine | how can i make cmake not eat the CXXFLAGS? | 21:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, can't you just drop -Werror from the CMakeList? | 21:14 |
| kenvandine | i could probably do that... but i would rather work around it in the rules file | 21:15 |
| seb128 | good luck then | 21:15 |
| kenvandine | i'll do that for now... | 21:15 |
| seb128 | I just patched the CMakeList when I did an upload for unity | 21:15 |
| kenvandine | this libindicator abi break has been a pita! | 21:15 |
| kenvandine | a bunch of FTBFS for deprecations | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | we need to get those fixed | 21:16 |
| * kenvandine will yell at tedg about that :) | 21:16 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine, before uploading make sure you don't break stuff like the hud ppa by jumping versions ahead, or coordinate with ted,gord,didrocks | 21:16 |
| kenvandine | i can bump the hud version | 21:17 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, if tedg was doing review and rolling tarballs yeah, we are mid-cycle and we didn't get any indicator update yet | 21:17 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Uhg, I forgot about the GTK3 deprecations. | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | tedg, don't worry, i'll be getting you a list of the failures :) | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | libappindicator fails too with the python bindings | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | i have a branch to fix that | 21:19 |
| tedg | Oh, didn't expect that one. | 21:19 |
| tedg | Can we drop those? | 21:19 |
| tedg | Or do we need them for the GTK2 case? | 21:20 |
| kenvandine | i say leave them for now | 21:20 |
| kenvandine | for gtk2 | 21:20 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is there any good fixes coming in the indicators at least? ;-) | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | nope | 21:22 |
| seb128 | :-( | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | indicator-appmenu with the hud service | 21:22 |
| kenvandine | but first just a rebuild for libindicator | 21:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hey, there? | 21:35 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, for a minute, but yes, what's up? | 21:39 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hey | 21:39 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, how are you? | 21:39 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I'm good thanks, how are you? | 21:39 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu/revision/230 | 21:39 |
| * rodrigo_ looks | 21:40 | |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you remember why you did the ca_gtk_play_for_widget() change in 16_use_synchronous_notifications.patch | 21:40 |
| seb128 | using "manager->priv->dialog" rather than "window" break again the sound playing in the notifications | 21:40 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, oh, iirc it's happened several times | 21:40 |
| seb128 | I was wondering if you did it for a reason | 21:40 |
| rodrigo_ | on that patch, window is set at the beginning of the function, iirc | 21:41 |
| rodrigo_ | so was just a mistake, just making it apply | 21:41 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok, great, that's what I though but I wanted to check | 21:41 |
| seb128 | I reverted that line and that makes the sound work again | 21:41 |
| rodrigo_ | I think it should be 'ca_gtk_play_for_widget (window, | 21:41 |
| seb128 | but I wanted to check if you did it for a reason | 21:41 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, right, that's what I did | 21:41 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, it's the 2nd or 3rd time that comes up, sorry :) | 21:42 |
| chrisccoulson | hi rodrigo_ | 21:42 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 21:42 |
| rodrigo_ | hi chrisccoulson | 21:42 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the code is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/815857/ | 21:42 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, I'm fine, and you? | 21:42 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, yeah, i'm not too bad thanks :) | 21:42 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yeah, that's it | 21:42 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, when you have time another day I need to ping you about the region capplet stuff | 21:42 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you still plan to land that upstream this cycle? | 21:42 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, please do whenever you want | 21:42 |
| chrisccoulson | hah, oh, i recognise that hacky bit of code there ;) | 21:43 |
| rodrigo_ | I plan to, just a bit busy on the new job, but please ping me whenever you want to discuss it, and I'll try to finish it asap | 21:43 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, that's the bug I was about to ping you about when you started ignoring me :p | 21:43 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 21:43 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok, thanks | 21:43 |
| RAOF | Morning chrisccoulson! | 21:43 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, when's the gnome freeze? | 21:43 |
| chrisccoulson | hi RAOF | 21:43 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I didn't want to stop you on IRC late, thanks for the reply | 21:44 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, you were lucky, just came for a minute to check mail :) | 21:44 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, let me check, in a month or so | 21:44 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, I'll try to work on it some this weekend | 21:44 |
| jbicha | rodrigo_: wiki says 20 Feb | 21:44 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 21:44 |
| * rodrigo_ adds it to his calendar | 21:44 | |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, feb 20. | 21:45 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks | 21:45 |
| seb128 | jbicha, btw the webkit s-c issue has a patch on https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76911 | 21:51 |
| ubot2` | bugs.webkit.org bug 76911 in WebKit Gtk "[GTK] WebKitWebView won't work in a GtkOffscreenWindow" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 21:51 |
| seb128 | jbicha, if you want to update the ppa feel free, if that works fine we might be able to upload to precise this week | 21:51 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I will add it on my list in any case, I'm just mentioning it in case you want to beat me to it ;-) | 21:52 |
| desrt | seb128: so some good news | 22:01 |
| desrt | seb128: gee issue is fixed now | 22:01 |
| desrt | although the patch to vala causes a regression in folks now | 22:02 |
| seb128 | desrt, in libgee git? 0.6 serie as well? | 22:02 |
| desrt | seb128: well, it was a vala patch | 22:02 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok, I'm uploading the patched webkit now | 22:02 |
| desrt | so gee needs to do a new release that was built using the new vala | 22:02 |
| seb128 | ok | 22:02 |
| seb128 | desrt, is there any sign of a vala release? ;-) | 22:02 |
| desrt | seb128: the folks regression is a bug in folks itself | 22:02 |
| desrt | uncovered by the new gobject strictness stuff plus the new way the vala compiler deals with property overrides | 22:03 |
| desrt | they plan to fix it up in folks | 22:03 |
| desrt | i think we'll see a vala release quite soon | 22:03 |
| desrt | juergbi has been running around in the forrest lately | 22:03 |
| desrt | which is why we didn't have one already | 22:03 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 22:03 |
| desrt | i think you'll probably see one in the following days | 22:04 |
| seb128 | desrt, ok | 22:04 |
| seb128 | desrt, I'm not in an hurry, I did distroworkaround glib | 22:04 |
| desrt | seb128: understood | 22:04 |
| seb128 | but good to know it's being properly fixed upstream still ;-) | 22:04 |
| desrt | seb128: i think that workaround will not save you from the folks regression | 22:04 |
| seb128 | desrt, right | 22:04 |
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| seb128 | the workaround was to unblock the dx guys | 22:04 |
| seb128 | not to "fix" anything which was buggy | 22:05 |
| desrt | so what's the deal with gee versions? | 22:05 |
| * desrt is terminally confused | 22:05 | |
| seb128 | what about those? | 22:05 |
| seb128 | we are on 0.6 | 22:05 |
| desrt | 0.6 is 1.0 and 0.8 is 0.8 or something? | 22:05 |
| seb128 | seems GNOME was unsure if this cycle is going to see a 0.8 or stay on 0.6 | 22:06 |
| seb128 | desrt, oh, dunno, I assumed that 0.6 is current stable and 0.7 current unstable | 22:06 |
| seb128 | not sure if they have a schedule for 0.8 | 22:06 |
| desrt | there's some additional complication, i understand | 22:06 |
| desrt | i'm sure we'll see what happens | 22:06 |
| seb128 | right | 22:07 |
| desrt | in any case, i think there was a new gee release made | 22:07 |
| desrt | and it was built using my patch to vala before the fixes were actually applied to vala git itself | 22:07 |
| seb128 | oh, good to know | 22:08 |
| seb128 | desrt, they rolled a tarball for each serie | 22:08 |
| desrt | it was a 0.7 though | 22:08 |
| seb128 | 0.6 and 0.7 | 22:08 |
| desrt | oh. that's good | 22:08 |
| desrt | let me see if it was built with the new vala | 22:08 |
| desrt | yes. it was. | 22:09 |
| desrt | if you package that, the warnings should go away | 22:09 |
| desrt | 0.6.4, i mean | 22:09 |
| seb128 | desrt, excellent, thanks | 22:09 |
| desrt | would have been nice if he included some note about that in the news :p | 22:09 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ want to do the update some day when you are out of libindicat* transitions? ;-) | 22:09 |
| seb128 | desrt, indeed | 22:09 |
| czajkowski | evening, running Precise and just ran an upgrade and got an unusal message http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/815871/ anyone see similar today ? | 22:09 |
| seb128 | hey czajkowski | 22:10 |
| desrt | seb128: the test, btw, is to look at abstractset.c | 22:10 |
| desrt | and see how the "read-only-view" property is setup | 22:10 |
| desrt | if it uses g_object_class_override_property -> bad | 22:10 |
| czajkowski | seb128: evening | 22:10 |
| desrt | g_object_class_install_property -> good | 22:10 |
| seb128 | desrt, ok, thanks | 22:10 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, it seems minor, dunno if that happened on my box though, I use update-manager and don't watch stdout | 22:12 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, try asking mvo tomorrow | 22:12 |
| czajkowski | seb128: grand will do, I have to watch the output like to see what yer doing :) | 22:13 |
| czajkowski | seb128: what tz is mvo on ? | 22:13 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, european | 22:13 |
| seb128 | gmt+1 | 22:13 |
| seb128 | 'night | 22:28 |
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