[05:30] <razGon_Xsh4> 안녕하세요?
[05:30] <razGon_Xsh4> 설날에 반갑습니다.ㅎ
[05:32] <razGon_Xsh4> 모두 새해 복많이 받으세요..ㅎㅎ
[06:00] <razGon_Xsh4> 다들 숨어 계신가요?
[06:30] <razGon_Xsh4> 허거거거거..ㅠㅠㅠ
[08:39] <razGon_Xsh4> 계신가요?
[08:39] <Seony> 누구요?
[08:40] <razGon_Xsh4> ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:40] <razGon_Xsh4> 그렇군요.ㅎ
[08:41] <razGon_Xsh4> http://goo.gl/ckfvg
[08:41] <razGon_Xsh4> 이것과
[08:41] <razGon_Xsh4> http://goo.gl/DweuV
[08:41] <razGon_Xsh4> 이것의 차이가 얼마나 날까요?
[08:42] <Seony> 첫번째꺼는 저가형 아닌가요?
[08:42] <Seony> 펜티엄D면 셀러론 같은 저가형 모델이잖아요
[08:42] <razGon_Xsh4> 그런가요?
[08:43] <Seony> 아... 뒤에꺼도 마찬가지인가보네요
[08:43] <razGon_Xsh4> 펜티엄D와 울프데일
[08:44] <Seony> 울프데일이 코어2듀오에요? 아니면 그냥 듀얼코어에요?
[08:45] <razGon_Xsh4> 6년전에 2006년에 조립했습니다. 펜티엄 D 3.0 요
[08:45] <razGon_Xsh4> 울프데일은 듀얼코어 입니다ㅏ.
[08:45] <razGon_Xsh4> 코어2듀오는 랑 듀얼코어는 다른거죠?
[08:45] <razGon_Xsh4> 코어2듀오는 *4
[08:45] <razGon_Xsh4> 듀얼코어는 *2
[08:46] <razGon_Xsh4> 인가요?
[08:46] <Seony> 코어2듀오도 *2에요.
[08:46] <Xolo2010> arnt the chipsets different?
[08:46] <Seony> 코어2쿼드가 *4죠
[08:46] <Seony> Xolo2010: should be.
[08:46] <Seony> razGon_Xsh4, 일단 보여주신걸로 봐서는 펜D가 캐시가 좀 더 크네요
[08:47] <razGon_Xsh4> 예 캐쉬*2메가
[08:48] <Seony> 근데 어차피 저가형 cpu면 제가 볼 때는 두개 다 고만고만할 거 같은데요.
[08:49] <Xolo2010> front side bus speed is different
[08:50] <Seony> it wouldn't be matter if both two of them are low-level class.
[08:51] <Xolo2010> yea guess your just lookign at price performance ratio then
[08:52] <razGon_Xsh4> 업그레이드 고려 하는데요.
[08:52] <Xolo2010> how much you spending :P
[08:53] <razGon_Xsh4> 펜티엄D에서 울프데일로 업그레이드 할때 어느정도의 퍼포먼스 변화가 있는지 궁금해서요
[08:53] <Seony> 무슨 작업을 하시느냐에 따라 다르겠지만, 일반적인 경우는 별 차이 없을 것 같네요
[08:54] <Seony> 솔직히 저도 i5에서 i7으로 바꿔도 일상적인 작업에서는 별 차이 못느끼겠더라구요
[08:54] <razGon_Xsh4> 소켓775에서 가장 최신의 퍼포를 가진 단종되지 않은 놈입니다.
[08:54] <razGon_Xsh4> 시간이 많이 지나서 싸진거죠.
[08:54] <razGon_Xsh4> 헉.
[08:54] <Seony> 오히려 그래픽 카드 달아놓은 게 훨씬 체감성능이 컸어요.
[08:54] <razGon_Xsh4> Xolo2010: 헉... 제 이야기 하고 있군요.
[08:54] <Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[08:55] <Xolo2010> sorry ill butt out
[08:55] <Xolo2010> but i say ram
[08:55] <Xolo2010> if you have no money
[08:55] <Xolo2010> best bang for the buck imo
[08:55] <razGon_Xsh4> wait a min for my children.
[08:55] <Xolo2010> and like seony says it depends on what your doing but ram is always good
[09:03] <Seony> 음... 아베크롬비 쉬핑 공짜 프로모션 끝났네...
[09:04] <Seony> 아... 진작 살껄 그랬나..
[09:05] <Xolo2010> they have abercrombie in hawaii
[09:05] <Seony> 그건 저도 알아요.
[09:06] <Seony> 근데 본토보다 가격이 훨씬 비싸다는 사실은, 본토 사시는 분들은 잘 모르시죠
[09:06] <Xolo2010> how much is the price difference
[09:06] <Seony> 온라인에서 70불짜리 바지가 매장에서 100불 넘습니다.
[09:07] <Xolo2010> wow
[09:07] <Seony> 그럴거면 차라리 shipping free일 때 clearance만 잔뜩 사도 돈 버는거죠
[09:07] <Xolo2010> a penny saved is a penny earned ;p
[09:08] <Seony> $70->$100이면 그 정도 수준이 아니죠..
[09:08] <Seony> 두벌만 사도 이미 한벌 값이 나오는데요..
[09:08] <Xolo2010> true 2 for 1
[09:09] <Seony> 여기는 그나마 날씨가 더우니까 겨울옷을 안사서 다행이지... 뭐 암튼 아베크롬비는 비싸서 못사입어요 ㅎㅎ
[09:10] <Xolo2010> everything is expensive there i hear food gas rent
[09:10] <Seony> 지상낙원에 살려면 그 정도는 감수해야죠
[09:13] <Xolo2010> i guess you like it there
[09:14] <Seony> yea, i love here. i want to live here forever if i can.
[09:14] <Seony> many people living in hawaii tell me i should go to the mainland for my future, but i love here.
[09:15] <Xolo2010> only been there on vacation so only saw the tourist trap
[09:15] <Xolo2010> and i guess it depends on what island you live on to
[09:16] <Seony> not really. hawaii is pretty big.
[09:17] <Xolo2010> 3 hours to go around the big island in a car sound about right?
[09:18] <Seony> Nope.
[09:18] <Xolo2010> longer or shorter?
[09:18] <Seony> even going around oahu may take over 6 or 7 hrs.
[09:18] <Xolo2010> didn't realize it was so big
[09:19] <Seony> oahu is not a big island. but it's not in the mainland. which means, we can't driver over 50 mph.
[09:20] <Seony> and moreover, a lot of tourists have come from many countries, however, places are limited.
[09:21] <Seony> they go only a few places, such as waikiki beach, or diamond head.
[09:21] <Xolo2010> question is it true there are bugs as big as your hand there?
[09:21] <Seony> even i can't see any tourists where i live now.
[09:21] <Seony> well,
[09:22] <Seony> i've ever seen only 3 bugs.
[09:22] <Seony> roach, ant, and flying bugs.
[09:22] <Seony> roach is pretty big.
[09:23] <Seony> up to.....
[09:23] <Seony> 2 inches?
[09:23] <Seony> 3 inches...
[09:23] <Xolo2010> eh i could handle that
[09:23] <Xolo2010> i was imagining them being like 6-8 inches
[09:23] <Xolo2010> that would freak me out
[09:23] <Seony> yea i think it's up to 3 inches.
[09:23] <Seony> omg, i don't think ppl can live with that kinda super bugs.
[09:24] <Xolo2010> i hear they are that size in florida
[09:24] <Xolo2010> not roaches
[09:24] <Seony> one thing hawaii is very nice place is, no mosquito is here.
[09:24] <Xolo2010> but weird bugs
[09:24] <Xolo2010> nice korean mosquitos suck
[09:24] <Seony> yea, i hate it.
[09:24] <Xolo2010> literaly
[09:25] <Seony> no mosquito here 24 hrs, and 365 days.
[09:25] <Xolo2010> monsoon/typhoon?
[09:25] <Xolo2010> hurricane?
[09:25] <Seony> never.
[09:25] <Xolo2010> earthquakes?
[09:25] <Seony> a tsunami can be happened once a year.
[09:26] <Seony> but i have experienced only one tsunami warning in recent 5 years.
[09:27] <razGon_Xsh4> i`m back!
[09:27] <Xolo2010> wb
[09:27] <razGon_Xsh4> my wife ordered me to play with my children...ㅠ.ㅠ
[09:27] <Xolo2010> so is this channel for korean linux users
[09:27] <Seony> Officially.
[09:28] <Xolo2010> cool
[09:28] <Seony> Official Ubuntu Korean LoCo Team Channel.
[09:28] <Xolo2010> do a lot of koreans use linux?
[09:28] <Xolo2010> besides the geeks at kaist
[09:28] <Seony> less than 10%.
[09:29] <Seony> it might be less than 5%, seriously.
[09:29] <Seony> look how many ppl here.
[09:30] <Seony> moreover, 5 are bots.
[09:30] <Xolo2010> but koreans dont use a lot of irc do they
[09:30] <Seony> right.
[09:30] <Xolo2010> do you think its because of how fast the speeds are there?
[09:30] <Seony> due to life style, i guess.
[09:31] <Xolo2010> i hear video chatting is common
[09:31] <Seony> and chatting on web-based. it's more friendly.
[09:31] <Seony> user-friendly is the most important thing for korean ppl.
[09:32] <Seony> that's why korean ppl is the most 까탈스러운 ppl in this universe.
[09:32] <Xolo2010> i think thats true for all people
[09:32] <Xolo2010> dont know that word my vocabulary is limited
[09:33] <Seony> yes, but korean is more sensitive than any other ppl.
[09:33] <Seony> oh, i thought you're native korean.
[09:33] <Xolo2010> no
[09:33] <Xolo2010> korean immigrant
[09:33] <Xolo2010> came here when i was 3
[09:33] <Seony> oh i see.
[09:34] <Seony> so english is more more comfortable than korean.
[09:34] <Xolo2010> yes
[09:34] <Seony> and, can understand korean but can't speak?
[09:34] <Xolo2010> i can speak enough not to get robbed by the taxi driver
[09:35] <Seony> ok. i see.
[09:35] <Seony> try to use eng-kor dictionary.
[09:35] <Seony> http://endic.naver.com
[09:35] <Xolo2010> i do
[09:36] <Xolo2010> ive always wondered how big of a company is naver
[09:36] <Xolo2010> like how many employees you think?
[09:36] <Seony> thousands.
[09:37] <Xolo2010> nice dictionary
[09:37] <Seony> and all employees have plastic business cards.
[09:37] <Xolo2010> could you spell gak jeng ee in korean for me
[09:37] <Seony> 깍쟁이?
[09:38] <Xolo2010> bah that doesnt tell me anything
[09:38] <Xolo2010> but i think its the right word
[09:38] <Seony> that means like, scrooge.
[09:38] <Xolo2010> the english definition is slicker
[09:38] <Xolo2010> or miser
[09:38] <Xolo2010> but that doesnt seem right
[09:39] <Xolo2010> its usually used to describe girls isn't it?
[09:39] <Seony> can you read korean?
[09:39] <Xolo2010> a little
[09:39] <Seony> ok. do you know "값을 깎다"?
[09:39] <Xolo2010> cut price
[09:39] <Xolo2010> to cut the price
[09:39] <Xolo2010> ?
[09:39] <Seony> right.
[09:40] <Seony> 깍쟁이 means, some one who loves to cut the price, always.
[09:40] <Seony> and same meaning with Scrooge.
[09:40] <Xolo2010> how is that differnt from dol dol ha da
[09:40] <Seony> dol dol? 돌돌? or 똘똘?
[09:40] <Xolo2010> second one
[09:41] <Xolo2010> maybe
[09:41] <Seony> 똘똘 means like smart, clever.
[09:41] <Xolo2010> but not meaning witty
[09:42] <Xolo2010> i though it had to do with how someone would handle their possessions
[09:42] <Seony> It's witty.
[09:42] <Xolo2010> so it does mean witty also?
[09:42] <Seony> yes.
[09:43] <Seony> especailly, this word is used for children.
[09:44] <Seony> i gotta go to bet to get sleep.
[09:44] <Xolo2010> np thanks
[09:45] <Seony> i join this channel everyday cuz i'm an admin for this chan. so you can talk to me whever you want.
[09:45] <Xolo2010> cool thanks
[09:54] <razGon_Xsh4> 일단은 램은 2기가 인데 4기가로 올릴예정입니다.
[09:55] <razGon_Xsh4> and I'll upgrade the CPU from pentiumD to wolfdale.
[09:57] <razGon_Xsh4> I wonder that wolfdale can get the more performance.
[09:57] <razGon_Xsh4> It can do it?
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