[06:49] good morning [07:52] good morning [09:55] hmmm how is spam getting to loco contacts list [09:55] I'm a modertor and not approving it [11:25] czajkowski: are they subbed? [11:28] not sure trying to find out === dpm is now known as dpm-afk === Ronnie1 is now known as Ronnie [18:42] so, we have a really sweet logo that a marketing/PR department made for a talk we're going to have at a library. [18:43] http://i.imgur.com/oupPj.jpg [20:09] Hi all! [20:10] how to complain to Canonical? [20:10] help plz [20:11] Rafig: state your issue instead of asking such a generic question (and a wrong one since you most likely *don't* want to complain to *Canonical*) [20:13] I want to complain about the moderators in my community. [20:14] yeah, that's not canonical [20:14] !loco-council [20:14] Factoid 'loco-council' not found [20:14] !lococouncil [20:14] lococouncil is The Loco Council is itnet7, czajkowski, paultag, huats, leogg, popey - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com [20:14] oh ffs [20:15] czajkowski: fix that willya!? :) [20:15] :) [20:15] Rafig: email loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com with your complaint [20:15] paultag: I was about to say it [20:15] Rafig: for file a bug against http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-locoteams [20:15] * paultag hugs huats [20:15] Rafig: not canonical, since canonical's not involved with this [20:16] * huats hugs paultag back ! [20:16] huats: what's new? [20:16] I am moving on friday [20:16] and who is involved with this? [20:16] and noone to help me :) [20:17] what about you ? [20:17] 20:15 < paultag> Rafig: email loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com with your complaint [20:17] I have seen about your new job :) [20:17] Rafig: the ubuntu loco council [20:17] huats: I'm stoked!! It's so great [20:17] huats: I'm about to move too :) [20:17] Rafig which community is this ? [20:17] paultag: hehe :) [20:17] huats: Where are you moving to? [20:17] paultag: same place but in another part of the town [20:18] still Toulouse :) [20:18] huats: oh, awesome [20:18] the greatest rugby team (ask czajkowski :)) [20:18] what about you ? [20:18] hehehe :) [20:18] paultag: they'll never let you out [20:18] Rafig: who is involved with what? [20:18] huats: same place (boston), but downtown [20:18] mhall119: totally [20:18] mhall119: I'm working on making a revamped API for our little lens project here [20:19] ok [20:19] great [20:19] me was told that Canonical have address for complaints [20:19] totally :) [20:19] paultag: cool [20:19] Rafig: you don't want canonical if you have a locoteam complaint [20:19] Rafig: which community is this ? [20:19] it's not canonical's place to govern that set of the community [20:20] confedicial information [20:20] ok [20:20] Rafig: email loco-council [20:20] 20:17 < paultag> 20:15 < paultag> Rafig: email loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com with your complaint [20:20] then I think I can't helpyou to find out who to ask for help [20:30] i Sorry confidential information [20:30] I would like to speak with the boss [20:36] the boss of what? [20:36] canonical does not run the community [20:37] if it's a local community, 'the boss' is the loco-council [20:37] if it's any other community, 'the boss' is the community council [20:43] and adress of bosses of Canonical please [20:44] Rafig: is this about the company itself or an employee of the company? [20:44] and adress of bosses of Canonical please [20:44] I'm sorry, I can't give you that [20:44] about company [20:44] please [20:44] but I am an employee and I would be more than happy to help you in any way I can [20:45] u can what? [20:45] in any way that I can help [20:45] u know adress plz? [20:46] I know lots of addresses, if you can tell me a bit about the problem I will know which one to give you [20:46] feel free to PM me if you want [20:47] I just wanted them to put things in order in my community. [20:48] can you tell me which community that is? [20:48] Moderators delete comments and punish us for nothing. :( [20:48] russian [20:48] on forums? [20:49] yes [20:49] ok, I'm going to tell you what other have already told you, Canonical the company has no authority over the local community teams [20:49] the loco-council has the authority to put things in order for your community [20:50] an email to loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com will be kept private between you and them, and they will be able to help you [20:50] they say you broke the number of N nad punish , but we did not break. [20:50] unfortunately I'm not on the loco-council, so I can't directly help you [20:51] but once again, if you send an email to that address, they will contact the moderators and correct the situation [20:52] A friend said, they can do nothing. And he said to write in a special address to Canonical. [20:53] your friend was mistaken, they will be able to help [20:54] Rafig: I am sorry but there is no special address in canonical in that case [20:54] (fyi: we've been through all this in #ubuntu-ops) [20:54] Russian community uses copyright of Canonical. Canonical will be able to put pressure on them and fix it. [20:54] you should write to the loco council [20:54] paultag: 'we've asked nobody seems able to fix it [20:55] A friend has passed through it. He all know. [20:55] the loco council has the delegation to approuved or no a team (like the russian one) [20:55] whats up folks [20:55] * czajkowski is on the loco council [20:55] czajkowski: how are you ? [20:55] huats: MUNSTER is the onlly rugby team! [20:55] we'll see that in semifinal may be :) [20:57] Rafig: Can I be of any help? [20:58] You do not know. This arrogant bad people. [20:58] Rafig: eh I'm on the loco council so if its a locoteam issue I am the person to talk to [20:59] Rafig: Canonical doesn't use its trademark against local teams, they give that authority to the loco-council [20:59] They spit on loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com [20:59] undestand? [21:00] Rafig: how about you start from the top and explain and I'll see what i can do [21:00] hows that [21:02] You could not help sorry [21:02] Canonical can only [21:02] Rafig: I don't know who told you that, but it's simply not true [21:03] and only because of copyright [21:03] Rafig: if its regarding locoteams them I'm afraid you're wrong, it;s the loco council who deal with any issues there and if we cannot then it gets escalated to the CC [21:03] Rafig: but unless you actually tell me the issues we're going around in circles [21:03] so either tell me here or email me please [21:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil [21:04] Rafig: please let czajkowski and the loco-council help you [21:06] What they can do to Russian community? Russian Community no subject, no one, controlled now it. Do you understand? [21:06] there anarchy. they are themselves. [21:07] czajkowski: wtf :) [21:08] paultag: eh? [21:08] Rafig: look unless you email us there really is nothing more we can do [21:09] I will write to Canonical. Let them take away these scoundrels logos and copyrights. [21:09] *sigh( [21:09] Rafig: and you will receive a reply that says "It's not our business, write to the LoCo Council". [21:09] and you will have wasted your time and their time. [21:10] you can not do anything, you are not holders of copirights [21:10] Rafig: what exactly needs explaining re copyright ? [21:10] do you need permission to use something [21:10] or has someone used it and you want to see if its ok? [21:11] You are not lawyers and do not understand what I mean [21:11] Rafig: you wont explain what you are talking about [21:11] we're trying to help you [21:12] Canonical may prohibit the use of their copyrights [21:12] Rafig: for example this could be of some use to you http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy [21:12] to prohibit any community [21:12] Rafig: Canonical are quite relaxed about the way people use the Ubuntu logo. [21:13] Rafig: if you have a community issue then I'd strongly recommend you talk to the loco council or the community council [21:13] Rafig: I suspect there is a language barrier here, some misunderstanding perhaps? [21:14] Rafig: also http://www.canonical.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy could be of some use [21:14] again if you could explain what the issues is I will try to help [21:14] can only affect so to they [21:15] i unddestand u [21:15] np [21:16] 20:54 < czajkowski> paultag: 'we've asked nobody seems able to fix it [21:16] czajkowski: also, we've got complaints about .ru before [21:16] you simply do not understand why Russian community must obey? [21:16] czajkowski: remember the whole racism/sexism fourms thing? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [21:16] Rafig: obey what? [21:16] popey: the law, duh [21:17] paultag: aye and factoid is now fixed :D [21:17] Rafig: what rules do you think have been broken? [21:17] popey: also, hi! :) [21:17] paultag: not helpful [21:17] they do not obey anyone, and do not listen [21:17] czajkowski: wooo, thanks :) [21:17] popey: I'm joking, no need to get snippy [21:17] paultag: Pici and myrtti worked their voodo [21:17] czajkowski: rockn' [21:18] thanks u friends! [21:18] I will fight on for freedom! [21:18] :P [21:19] ok [21:19] and write to Canonical [21:19] well Rafig if we can help please do contact the loco council as they look after loco teams [21:20] autotranslate is bad translate :( [21:20] but i un [21:20] +1 [21:20] indeed [21:20] d [21:20] thanks [21:20] bb all! [21:29] I'm sure we can fine some "trusted people" who know Russian if that's needed... [21:33] never should have let paultag off the council [21:33] he's enjoying it being not his responsibility a little too much [21:33] hehe [21:41] mhall119: :D [21:41] mhall119: I sure am [21:41] it's great [21:43] *mutters* [21:43] * czajkowski waves her wodden stick [21:43] the Shillelagh of death [21:44] indeed [22:14] I just read the backlog after sending Rafig here [23:14] h00k: why did you tell him he should go to canonical? [23:15] paultag: :p I didn't, silly. [23:15] good :) [23:15] I thought I'd mitigate that misnomer he had by sending him here [23:15] h00k: czajkowski gave him the trademarks line, so perhaps he went off that way [23:16] so I think he just bailed on the idea of loco-council [23:16] paultag: perahps, yeah. [23:16] paultag: have a moment for a PM? [23:17] pleia2: sure thing