[00:01] beuno: I just saw the emailand it contains the phrase "the time of theyear whenwe break everyone's display for a couple of days until the mirrors become consistent" [00:01] beuno: so, me, I am waiting until next week ;-) [00:02] ralsina, that's followed by "But wait!" [00:02] solid guarantee [00:02] hahaha [00:06] eod - see you guys tomorrow === caravone_ is now known as caravone === ajmitch__ is now known as ajmitch [01:44] grr. pygtk. === eu is now known as Guest26134 === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [09:06] morning all! [09:33] G'mornin' all! :D [10:35] Good morning! [10:45] ralsina, morning! [10:46] morning,mandel! I heard that you broke something and didn't tell me :-) [10:46] ralsina, as in I broke software of parts of my body? [10:46] body parts [10:47] the software I am assuming you brokeit [10:47] ralsina, nah, just two teeth, nothing too important :) [10:47] haha [10:47] ralsina, do you know how to access the jenkins instance? [10:48] ralsina, I installed a windows server 2008 to test why the tests fail on jenkins, but the os is not the problem [10:48] mandel: asking sidnei ;-) [10:49] ralsina, already did that, but I think he starts a little later [10:49] ok, time to send the kid to camp [10:50] mandel: yes, timezones... probably in 1hour [10:50] which is when I will be back myself. Have fun, eat soft ;-) [10:50] ok, I'll see if we can get the green lights to jenkins, I don't like to have that broken at all [10:50] ralsina, lol [11:16] good morning [11:19] brb....... restart [11:38] gatox, buenas [11:38] mandel, hi [12:05] hello everyone! [12:06] Aloha nessita [12:06] hi czajkowski, how is it going? [12:06] nessita: good thanks and you? [12:06] great! thanks for asking [12:07] nessita, hi [12:07] hola gatox! [12:20] gatox: please talk to Ng, he's not recognizing your gpg key [12:20] ralsina, oh ok === teknico is now known as teknico_away [12:32] nessita: ping [12:33] cjohnston: pong [12:34] Can you take a quick look at bug #920949 please.. Judging on another bug your assigned, I think this may be relevant to you as well, and maybe have some help to the windows issues [12:34] cjohnston: Error: Bug #920949 not found. [12:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/920949 [12:34] cjohnston: Error: Bug #920949 not found. [12:34] cjohnston: looking [12:35] let me know if you need other information [12:35] cjohnston: if you close the control panel and open again, is the issue fixed? [12:35] I do notice in the logs that there are alot of paths that use "\\", I don't know if that's a windows thing or not [12:35] nessita: no [12:35] cjohnston: how are you closing the controlpanel? [12:35] nessita, morning! [12:35] hola mandel! [12:35] "X" [12:36] cjohnston: can you please try closing it from the systray icon? because "X" will only minimize it [12:36] nessita, I did some fixes for https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/auto-update-looping-call/+merge/81015 let me know if that is correct or you want me to make if even less dependent on twisted, I think I could go a step further [12:36] cjohnston: ideally, when closed, check that the ubuntuone-control-panel.exe process is no longer listed as a process is the task manager [12:37] cjohnston: only for this debugging, of course [12:37] mandel: will look, but is worth noting that the need of dropping the twisted reactor is in linux only [12:37] nessita, ok :) [12:38] nessita, also, I found why the tests are failing under jenkins, do you have like, 10 mins to chat about set_readonly? [12:38] mandel: yes, tell me [12:39] nessita, so, it turns out that the set_readonly sets the flag so that the admin account can read and write, and the tests on ec2 are run under that user, so jenkins can write too [12:39] brb! [12:39] nessita: ive done that, for now, still 'getting information' [12:39] o/ [12:40] mornin duanedes1gn [12:40] hello mr cjohnston [12:40] mandel: from my POV, jenkins should not run as admin [12:41] nessita, +1 on that, I can talk with sidnei about that, yet it might be a lot of work for him :( [12:41] this takes forever [12:41] cjohnston: saw on your facebook you were working for some place dive related. I got jealous. I have not been scuba diving in almost 2 years :/ [12:41] mandel: would you know why? [12:41] hehehe [12:41] cjohnston: the getting info is taking for ever? [12:41] yes [12:42] nessita: ^ [12:42] duanedes1gn: ya, i work part time at a dive shop [12:42] cjohnston: was it taking that long before? [12:42] nessita: yes. it hasnt worked for a few months, she just finally decided to tell me this [12:42] nessita, I'll talk with him about it, if he can change the user it should then be done, othersiw we can add a skipIfAdmin but doing that sounds terrible [12:42] cjohnston: would you know what version of Ubuntu One are you running? [12:43] everytime i have tried to start it in the past day it takes long enough for me to walk away, then i get that other AttributeError [12:43] nessita: downloaded it yesterday when i uninstalled/reinstalled [12:43] mandel: no, no skipIfAdmin.... we shouldn't run the test suite as admin... since syncdaemon is not supposed to run as admin [12:44] cjohnston: so, the error per se means that syncdaemon is not running, ergo is not answering requests from the control panel [12:44] cjohnston: we need to debug why syncdaemon is not running [12:44] nessita, ok, will talk with him so that we make those changes, when do we will have green lights on jenkins which is a great move forward! [12:44] nessita: also get this one: bug 855428 [12:44] Launchpad bug 855428 in ubuntuone-client "AttributeError: "NoneType" object has no attribute get_rootdir (affects: 18) (dups: 10) (heat: 128)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855428 [12:45] cjohnston: yes, is all the same [12:45] ok [12:45] it depends which info the control panel requests first [12:45] but if syncdaemon is not working, every request will fail [12:45] ok [12:45] cjohnston: so, if this fails again, I'd need you to do the following: [12:46] * close every ubuntuone-* and ubuntu-* process from the task manager [12:46] * grab the whole content of the log folder, compress, and attach to the bug report [12:46] cjohnston: and ping me back, I'll analyze the logs [12:48] ok [12:49] nessita, how evil would it be to add a feature that stops the test from running if you are admin? [12:49] or root for what it matters [12:50] mandel: hum... not sure we want your time to be doing that :-) [12:50] mandel: we need you with proxy! [12:50] mandel: can I ask something about the autoupdate code? [12:50] nessita, going back to that :) [12:50] nessita, of course! [12:51] mandel: why are you providing a LoopingCall for linux? [12:53] nessita, to have the same features in both os, I can add an empty class that does nothing, but with the diff in number of lines.. we might was well have it [12:53] but we don't want to offer any update to the user from the control panel on linux, we expect the user to use the system update tool [12:53] mandel: in the review I mentioned moving the start() method to main, so we don't need to provide any autoupdate code in linux [12:53] is that doable? [12:55] nessita, let me take a closer look to give you exact details [12:55] mandel: ack [12:56] nessita: logs are attached [12:57] cjohnston: thaks! [12:57] :-) [12:57] thank you [12:59] back [13:01] cjohnston: so, have some time to do some debugging? [13:01] ralsina, ping [13:01] nessita: I have a phone interview in an hour.. can you be available after that? [13:01] nessita, what you would like to do to simplify the port way from the qt4reactor is to go to ubuntuone/controlpanel/gui/qt/main/__init__.py and remove the import of the qtreactor, remove the fact that you pass the stop method to start and make start return either a cb that start the event loop or something nicer [13:01] gatox: pong [13:01] ralsina, do you have time for a re view? [13:01] gatox: sure! [13:01] cjohnston: sure, ping me when you're free [13:01] nessita: I have 7 hours after that :-) [13:01] ty [13:02] ralsina, thanks: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/folder-show-garbage/+merge/89094 [13:02] nessita, that makes the main method kinda stupid, so we move the code form main to start or the other way around [13:02] mandel: start to main, yes [13:03] nessita, then, the icon connection should be done in main, and we should remove nearly everything found in that __init__ files except the imports [13:03] mandel: hum, let me confirm that last thing [13:03] * nessita browses code [13:05] ralsina, I found out why jenkins has failing tests, the tests are run as administrator, which brakes the readonly function on widows because the method allows the admin to write to file just in case the user wants to do something with it [13:05] mandel: well, the main() method will remain in main/__init__, and the importing of the qt4rector may be moved (in a future branch, not now) to source.main(). Then, the start() method will be replaced by the code of start() itself [13:06] mandel: which will also be in main/__init__ except for specific window parts, that will be located in main/windows. Does that make sense? [13:06] ralsina, we (nessita and I) think that we should make the test not run as admin in jenkins since you are not suppose to run u1 as admin [13:07] ralsina: yes... we should not be running the test suite as admin, that can masquerade some issues, and will make some other fails (tests can assume they are not run as root/admin) [13:07] nessita, so, ideally, in my branch we just move start to windows main, and import from there instead from gui, right? [13:07] mandel: yes (you will need to tweak the start() a bit) [13:08] nessita, sure, no problem I'll do that, and the good thing is that systray does not longer import the reactor :) [13:08] nessita, I'll do that before I forget and will get back to proxy (nearly done in small little branches : ) [13:09] mandel: ack! [13:09] ok, I will go ahead and update all the X packages, wish me luck! [13:12] ralsina, are we going to use the systray on linux? [13:16] mandel: no, we should use an indicator [13:16] mandel: there is some thing that turns qt systray icons into indicators though [13:17] ralsina, ok.. I'm cleaning that part a little.. [13:17] mandel: ok [13:38] lovely, now xchat crashes too.. === duanedes1gn is now known as duanedesign [13:49] lunch time! [14:00] gatox: what's path.replace(os.path.join(home_dir, ''), '') supposed to do? [14:00] * gatox looking.... [14:01] nessita: i finished up the last set of changes requested for gireactor, last night [14:01] ralsina, that is for show the Ubuntu One folder.... or any of the sync folder from the user without all the path to home.... [14:01] ralsina, just the folder name.... or the path relative to home [14:02] gatox: I don't get it. Also, you still are mixing unicode and bytes in lines 200-202 [14:02] dobey: yes, I saw that on the ticket... nice! kinda-bad-news is that the patch does not apply to apt-get-source'd twisted [14:02] gatox: Oh, I get it now [14:02] gatox: but you should not do it that way [14:02] dobey: is there any chance you give me a patch that applies to twisted source? I'm happy to build the package for our ppa... [14:03] gatox: Imagine a folder called "/home/user/backup/home/user" :-) [14:03] ralsina: I did it that way... how should we do it? [14:03] nessita: no, the last patch is against an svn branch which has more changes in it. i'll see if i can get a patch made up against 11.1.0 [14:03] nessita: have to do it with regex so it only replaces the first time and only if it's at the beginning of the path [14:03] ralsina, nessita maybe we can check if the string starts with home_dir.... and cut off that part [14:03] dobey: thanks! [14:04] ralsina: I will go with gatox's suggestion, adding regex usually just complicates the code (very few understand regex's) [14:04] nessita: indeed, doing it with startswith is good enough [14:05] ok then.... changing that..... and fixing 200-202 lines [14:05] gatox: also, and nessita had commented this, on lines 201 and 202, use unicode literals [14:05] gatox: ah, ok, had not seen you say you were going to fix it [14:05] gatox: other than that, looks good to me [14:06] ralsina, great... i'll let you know after the changes [14:06] nessita, i know.... add test to the new implementation of process_path :P [14:07] gatox: well, not necessarily since is a "private". What you should do is: [14:07] gatox: add a new test for the method that uses _process_path, and make it so it processes a path like the one mentioned by ralsina [14:07] nessita, ok [14:08] gatox: make it fail first, then do the fix ;-) [14:08] ralsina, yes yes.... that was the idea :P [14:08] fail fast, fail often. [14:09] gatox: you should add a new test to BackendVolumesTestCase, and not use self.be._process_path... otherwise we're cheating :-P [14:09] ok === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === teknico_away is now known as teknico [14:39] gatox: here are the signed binaries: https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~cmsj/installer-2.99.3.tgz [14:39] gatox: next step is, you put those back into dist and finish the bundling [14:39] gatox: then upload the bundle, with a signature [14:39] ralsina, cool..... i'll do that now [14:39] crikey. could everyone stop re-sharing gord's post on google+ [14:40] this is how i take over the world [14:44] alecu sentme a SMS telling me that he's with his wife at the doctor's so he won't make it for standup [14:45] ralsina: got sms from alecu, he says that they are still at the doctor waiting for some results, he will not be able to make it for the standup [14:45] nessita: he, got the same sms, I suppose [14:45] heh [14:54] nessita: ping.. ready when you are [14:54] cjohnston: ack. We have the daily standup in 5 minutes, and then I'm available [14:55] sounds like you should sit down. :-) [14:55] just ping me when your ready [14:55] cjohnston: I will [15:00] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] ralsina, mandel, dobey? [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] DONE: tech leads call, mgmt call (ongoing), video lens call, review for gatox TODO: brian's 1-1 call, call with Mac candidate, canonicaladmin, askubuntu, talk with chipaca and davidcalle about video lens, random bits and bytes BLOCKED: not yet [15:01] don't forget briancurtin [15:01] gatox: go! [15:01] dobey: he's next to me [15:01] :-P [15:01] oh. doh [15:02] dobey, he's better than the 2 of us :P [15:02] ralsina: ? [15:02] DONE: [15:02] Proposed branch for sso to avoid removing the signal to listen to network changes with dbus. Fixed some branches. [15:02] TODO: [15:02] Create bundle. Finish with my pending branches. [15:02] BLOCKED: [15:02] No [15:02] nessita, go [15:02] DONE: teach leads call, tried to build a custom twisted package with gi fix in it (patch won't apply, so no luck there), restarted work on bug #919294 [15:02] TODO: finish aforementioned bug, sync up with alecu re: gi and webclient stuff, try to have a gi patch working against twisted 11.1.0 [15:02] BLOCKED: kinda (twisted+gi) [15:02] NEXT: briancurtin [15:02] Launchpad bug 919294 in ubuntu-sso-client "Be able to spwan a process from the mainloop and grab its exit code (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/919294 [15:02] DONE: added a few more setup pieces, made some of the build automation smarter. almost done [15:02] TODO: figure out what's missing to cause -windows-installer tests to hang and look into a test that depends on the wrong python installation, then get this checked in somewhere [15:02] BLOCKED: none (except that tweaking and re-running tests blocks up a lot of time since i don't have much else to do yet, but i'll live) [15:02] NEXT: mandel [15:02] DONE: Worked on update the auto update looping call branch, I have to do some extra changes following a chat with nessita. Found out why jenkins tests are broken. We should not be running the test on jenkins using the adming account because sd assumes you are not admin. [15:02] TODO: proxy (close to finish now). [15:02] BLOCKED: no [15:02] COMMENTS: I have a detist appointment so I'll be done 30/45 min earlier today. [15:02] next: doeby [15:02] λ DONE: gireactor changes [15:02] λ TODO: gen reactor patch against twisted 11.1, package set proposal, gwibber, music store [15:02] λ BLCK: None. [15:03] any comments anyone? [15:03] nop [15:03] briancurtin: looking forward to getting to .ar? [15:03] briancurtin: would you need anything in this end? [15:03] briancurtin, can you review this branch please? https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/fix-user-home-tests/+merge/88919 [15:03] nessita: he needs mate con medialunas [15:04] nessita: yep, i'm excited to get there, making sure i have everything. not sure if there's anything i'll need when i get there since i think i have the right power adapter/converters [15:04] dobey: he will have some! speacking of which, last weekend, I had tons of mate with medialunas, and I had some in your honor [15:04] hehe [15:05] briancurtin: please note that A/C is 220 here, not 110, so be sure all your electronics work with 220 as well [15:05] gatox: oops, i commented but didn't hit approve. fixed [15:05] briancurtin, thanks! [15:05] nessita, now this one is ready for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/fix-user-home-tests/+merge/88919 :P [15:05] nessita: yeah i know my laptop adapter will work with it. i was just taking inventory last night so i think i should be ok on power stuff [15:06] briancurtin, take shorts, it will be warm.. [15:06] briancurtin: also, the plugs are different, get a universal plug adapter [15:06] briancurtin: also, weather is usually very hot (35-40 C degrees), but for example, yesterday we had this huge storm and now the temperature is 25C. So you may wanna bring a light sweater, depending on how you tolerate the "cold" [15:07] i just played in the snow for 5 hours at 20 degrees over the weekend so i'm alright with cold. wearing shorts will be amazing [15:07] (20 degrees fahrenheit) [15:07] briancurtin: and last but not least, the hotel has a pool and we may have meetings there, so, if you feel like it, bring a swimming suite :-) [15:07] ha, nice [15:08] briancurtin: remember the hotel has pool [15:08] he [15:09] or a bikini? they are open minded hehehe [15:10] ralsina, nessita FYI sidnei is looking into the jenkins issue, he says is should not be a lot of work [15:10] mandel: cool [15:10] briancurtin: also, please set your picture and any missing data at directory.canonical.com [15:10] mandel: specially with the new super script to setup an dev env, no? [15:11] ralsina: will do [15:11] nessita, that would be a great improvement, specially if we get jenkins to make the .exe :) [15:11] briancurtin: if it helps, I kept running into canonical websites I didn't know about for 6 months after I joined ;-) [15:12] mandel: making jenkins do the exes would kick ass [15:13] ralsina, it would make me and QA super happy that is for sure [15:13] with this super script thing, it gets the env setup, builds what needs to build, then tests it all. should i look into making it a target for jenkins? [15:13] (that was kind of my goal, but with no specific CI system in mind yet) [15:13] mandel: if we ever get to making the bin scripts no-logic, it would also cut down signing process in half. Grab the latest build from jenkins, sign the installer, release :-) [15:14] briancurtin: PLEASE! :-) [15:14] ralsina, briancurtin at some point we can see where is everything and put it together, atm I'm just in the situation were I want the tests to pass hehe [15:15] mandel: we are converging [15:15] mandel: it's a pincers movement [15:16] i really wish unity alt+tab would only switch between windows on current viewport [15:16] dobey, use unity2d [15:16] dobey, +1000 [15:16] it does that [15:17] mandel, ^ [15:17] for some reason unity-2d has been much more reasonable than 3d for me since day one [15:17] gatox: it also forces me to have ugly colored backgrounds for the icons, and doesn't seem to have a way to make them be 32px instead of 48px [15:17] ralsina: it doesn't use compiz. [15:17] dobey: that's the whole secret? Cool. [15:17] yep..... [15:18] ralsina: yeah, so it didn't crash all the time, from day 1 :) [15:18] and it's much faster :P [15:18] ralsina: also, you probably just have placebo because it's qt [15:18] dobey: amazing software engineering insight: not crashing makes things nicer ;-) [15:19] gatox: well, the fact that it doesn't use 200MB of RES is nice, yeah [15:19] jeje [15:19] i probably wouldn't care about the 48px icons if i had an IBM t221 for display though [15:20] but the background colors and square borders are still annoying [15:21] well, i also just don't like unity at all. i am forcing myself to use it [15:22] dobey, why not using gnome-shell then? [15:23] i don't like gnome-shell either [15:24] dobey: try KDE! ;-) [15:25] dobey: qt-razor! [15:25] uh, no. [15:26] unity should probably just force-disable workspacees, if it's not going to work with them correctly [15:26] and just hide all the windows of applications that aren't the foreground app [15:27] dobey: so mac-like [15:28] if only it had quicksilver… [15:29] dobey: there are a bunch of quicksilver-like launchers. I used to use one of those [15:30] i think it's called "hud" [15:31] rmcbride: are we missing something to remove selenium from ubuntuone-developer-dependencies? [15:31] elopio: wrong channel? [15:31] dobey: right. [15:32] cjohnston: ping, I'mr ady [15:32] ready* [15:33] elopio, ping [15:34] dobey: I used to use launchy (when I had a minimalist desktop bent) http://www.launchy.net/ [15:34] gatox: pong. [15:35] This quassel is a mess, I never know where to answer. [15:35] nessita: ok [15:35] cjohnston: so, can you please confirm that you have no ubuntuone-* or ubuntu-* process running? [15:35] ralsina: would you please remind me where u1 is installed in windows? [15:36] nessita: correct [15:36] ralsina: also, can I have a user running syncdaemon "manually" from where is installed? [15:36] ralsina: i don't actually want that [15:37] cjohnston: can you please open a terminal, and go to: C:\Program Files\ [15:37] cjohnston: is there any Ubuntu One folder there? [15:39] i dont see it, no [15:40] * gatox lunch === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:40] cjohnston: one moment, will boot my VM [15:40] ralsina: ping? [15:41] could it be in C:\Program Files (x86)\ [15:41] briancurtin: yes [15:41] nessita: [15:42] briancurtin: boo, that is because he runs 64 bits and we install only as 32? [15:42] yep [15:42] briancurtin: thanks :-) [15:43] briancurtin: so, if I need cjohnston to run ubuntuone-syncdaemon with --debug option, shall i set a specific pythonpath? [15:43] briancurtin: or just making C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubuntu One\ubuntuone-syncdaemon.exe --debug will do? [15:44] nessita: that will do it as far as i know [15:44] fwiw what i have is c:\Program Files (x86)\ubuntuone [15:45] cjohnston: right, so go to that location in a terminal, and there execute: [15:45] ubuntuone-syncdaemon.exe --debug [15:45] cjohnston: let me know if that start the syncdaemon, you should see lots of messages in the terminal [15:46] tthere is no syncdaemon in that directory [15:47] ahh [15:47] nessita: its in dist [15:47] cjohnston: sorry, I'm not familiar with that part of the installation (I always run it from source) [15:48] nessita: with --debug its running, but i got no output in the terminal [15:48] nessita: you want to run it with --debug to get output on the terminal? That doesn't work on windows [15:48] ralsina: why not? [15:48] cjohnston: one sec [15:48] nessita: because it detaches itself from the terminal [15:48] ralsina: how can I run it with --debug? [15:48] nessita: and there is no way to make it not detach that won't cause it to open a cmd window every time you run it [15:48] nessita: you just can't [15:49] nessita: --debug should still output debugging logs [15:49] dobey: I know, but there is nothing in the logs, they should are chopped of after tritcask creation [15:49] nessita: we can provide a binary that supports --debug but it will be useless as a real windows program [15:49] ralsina: syncdaemon is not fully starting for cjohnston, any idea how can we debug that? [15:49] nessita: even in syncdaemon-debug.log? [15:50] nessita, which os, windows? [15:50] nessita: all we have is the logs [15:50] dobey: in the logs I had, no, but perhaps now that is running with --debug it might [15:50] ralsina: logs have nothing, just nothing after tritcask creation [15:50] cjohnston: do you have now a syncdaemon-debug.log in the log folder? [15:50] nessita: right, with --debug, there should be a new syncdaemon-debug.log created, i would think [15:50] mandel: yes [15:50] nessita: give me 5' I will create a syncdaemon that has a terminal [15:51] nessita: so --debug works [15:51] ralsina: not sure if that will solve it, no worries [15:51] ralsina: actually, --debug will give nothing more than DEBUG logs but in the terminal [15:51] nessita: ok [15:52] ralsina: have you been debugging syncdaemons that do not start on windows? [15:52] not in that folder [15:52] nessita: haven't had one of those in a while [15:52] going to the log folder [15:52] cjohnston: "that folder" should be the usual log folder [15:52] ralsina: when you did, how did you debug that? [15:53] nessita: by giving the user a version that shows errors on the terminal [15:53] ralsina: errors as in errors from stderr, right? [15:53] nessita: but usually those were packaging bugs, so we would get an exception about something not loading [15:53] nessita: right [15:53] ralsina: is there any chance to have that? how much effort is? [15:53] nessita: 5' [15:54] ralsina: where does stderr go when the process detaches, exactly? [15:54] ralsina: if you could provide that to cjohnston, we can debug what's his issue [15:54] dobey: nowhere, we are blackholing it, because otherwaise things crash [15:54] nessita: paste.ubuntu.com/815454 [15:54] nessita: working on it as we speak [15:54] ralsina: we can't grab it and write it to a log file? [15:54] dobey: yes, we have a bug for that [15:55] ok [15:55] dobey: we just have not done it. py2exe tries to do it, but is broken (tries to write the log in a system folder and crashes) [15:55] cjohnston: so, that's the same as the other logs you have provided... is really weird because there is no error but syncdaemon just crashes. Couple of questions: [15:55] dobey: see the -debug log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815454/ [15:55] cjohnston: you mentioned you installed the latest windows release yesterday. Prior that, what version were you running? [15:56] nessita: couldnt tell you [15:56] nessita: looks like it isn't able to talk to sso [15:56] dobey: I think the crash is much much earlier than that, SD goes thru local rescan before talking to SSO [15:56] dobey: this looks like a crash when loading the metadata from tritcask [15:57] cjohnston: have U1 ever worked on that account? [15:57] nessita: then what does that last line mean? [15:57] nessita: i think so.. there are some files from months ago.. this isnt my computer, its my wifes, so i couldnt be 100% positive [15:57]