[00:47] <liveXubun> 'sudo update-grub' will not run on liveUSB xubuntu 11.04. Is different command needed??
[01:29] <n2diy> Looking for opinions on using  Dropbox?
[01:33] <Unit193> U1 and Dropbox aren't too different
[01:39] <xxxxxxxx> any advice on what to do with this?
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions Device [1734:1123]
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Memory at fc000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	I/O ports at 1800 [size=8]
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Kernel modules: intelfb, i915
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) [8086:2a03] (rev 03)
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions Device [1734:1123]
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Memory at fc100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> icanhas no brightness control
[01:40] <xxxxxxxx> icanhas no dual monitor settings separate workspaces
[01:41] <xxxxxxxx> on the newest kernel
[01:41] <knome> !pastebin | xxxxxxxx
[01:41] <xxxxxxxx> no hotkeys
[01:41] <xxxxxxxx> sorry
[01:42] <xxxxxxxx> acpi is mental
[01:43] <xxxxxxxx> audio is realtek,  coded 268
[01:43] <xxxxxxxx> which doesnt know what its doing
[01:43] <xxxxxxxx> half the time
[01:43] <xxxxxxxx> noone cares cos its intel junk
[01:44] <xxxxxxxx> it seems the hardware is configured on the gma chips to have a weird tree
[01:44] <xxxxxxxx> that begins with an ac/battery choice
[01:52] <xxxxxxxx> but noone cares
[01:52] <xxxxxxxx> haha
[01:55] <knome> or it is just silent because nobody knows the answer
[02:01] <yyyyyyyy> true
[02:02] <yyyyyyyy> xxxxxxxx: You could try the #kernel channel
[02:03] <xxxxxxxx> i have been told on several channels literally thAT MY CHIPS ARE RUBBISH AND  SHOULD GO ABD BUY ANOTHER LAPTOP
[02:03] <knome> please calm down
[02:03] <xxxxxxxx> ITS OK I DIDNT CRY
[02:03] <xxxxxxxx> sorry it was accidental caps lock knocked rant
[02:06] <yyyyyyyy> I didn't want to be rude but I was thinking along the same lines
[02:06] <yyyyyyyy> Looks like the hardware is reluctant to me
[02:07] <knome> not all hardware works as well in linux, that doesn't make other hardware worse than the other
[02:07] <yyyyyyyy> Yeah just makes the vendor look evil
[02:08] <knome> in that sense they all are, more or less.
[02:08] <xxxxxxxx> the vendor is evil intel, so many different commands for the chipsets- was built to be difficult to escape windows
[02:09] <xxxxxxxx> the functionality is there but there is no acpi support and the whole thing is integrated pathways- is the battery out then switch to 30 bright etc
[02:10] <xxxxxxxx> prob seems to be fujitsus launch manger
[02:10] <xxxxxxxx> and the lack of gma drivers
[02:11] <xxxxxxxx> will try tthe kernel guys see if i can botch together a hotch potch of modules so it half works at least
[03:15] <lighta> hi guys, hey where can I edit menu please ?, (I would like to remove old netbeans application link)
[03:23] <Unit193> lighta: What version of Xubuntu?
[03:30] <lighta> !version I guess, 11.10 oneric
[03:31] <lighta> i'm looking in /etc/xdg atm but didn't found it yet
[03:32] <Unit193> sudo apt-get install alacarta --no-install-recommends
[03:33] <lighta> is that for me ?
[03:33] <Unit193> alacarte
[03:33] <Unit193> Yep, that's a nice menu editor
[03:33] <lighta> yes that what I jsut google
[03:33] <lighta> ok i'll try that thx
[03:34] <lighta> but juste for my info was I in good folder ?
[03:34] <Unit193> Don't forget the "--no-install-recommends" part
[03:34] <Unit193> Nope :P
[03:34] <Unit193> The correct one is /usr/share/applications/
[03:35] <lighta> ah ye ok
[03:35] <lighta> oh seem I had it alacarte
[03:35] <lighta> hmm that quite weird
[03:35] <lighta> alacarte doesn't see the entry I want to remove
[03:36] <lighta> I'll try do a screenshot
[03:37] <lighta> if only I could do a screenshot while menu open
[03:39] <nanotube> hit printscreen keyboard key ?
[03:40] <nanotube> (or use a digital camera :D )
[03:40] <lighta> well does it work for you printscreen while you have xfce menu open ?
[03:40] <lighta> cause me it doesn't
[03:47] <lighta> ah it's ok finally he found it
 well does it work for you printscreen while you have xfce menu open ? <- funnily enough, no it doesn't :P i call bug! :)
[03:49] <lighta> well taht ok I did something like screenshot --delay
[03:50] <nanotube> :)
[03:54] <lighta> now I'm trying to fix netbeans but trough google it doesn't seem good : http://markmail.org/thread/nm7o6k2snrspl5wx
[04:14] <piv1> hey all, is there a way to clear the settings from simple scan?
[11:23] <istok> where did the network tab go, it was in ubuntu, xubuntu seems to not have it by default.
[11:23] <istok> i can't detect the lan
[11:37] <Marzata> istok: the network tab?
[11:39] <istok> Marzata, yeah, to view local lan/network, it is usually located under the 'places' tab
[11:39] <istok> i'm in a building with about 400 pc, i should be able to detect them, but even pings aren't working
[11:40] <istok> if i run an instance of ubuntu however, it picks up the network fine
[11:43] <istok> google doesn't tell me anything, i've been searching for days.
[11:47] <Marzata> istok: with patience?
[11:49] <istok> that, or i just use ubuntu :/
[11:49] <istok> i'd rather not.
[11:50] <ushills> Hi, microphone not working in xubuntu, can hear sound through speaker but not capturing, any ideas?
[11:52] <gry> Hi! What is /var/crash? Some docs URL that you have?
[11:53] <istok> ushills, clicking the sound should open the mixer, you should then be able to select which capture device to use by adding a control/master
[11:53] <ushills> when I do that I select the master (only option) still doesn't capture anything.
[11:54] <ushills> i.e select controls only give me master
[11:54] <istok> ushills, that's the only way i know how to do it, mine didn't detect sound, i had to manually configure the alsa mixer
[11:55] <istok> gry, crash dump images and the log files are written in /var/crash
[11:55] <istok> google has info
[11:55] <gry> I searched for docs, not found sane docs yet. :-)
[12:03] <gry> (If you have some useful links, very welcome to share)
[12:04] <istok> i don't, i just found the info on google, my /var/crash is empty
[12:22] <StrontiumCat> hello everyone
[12:23] <StrontiumCat> i want to enable farsi keyboard (and a method of switching from english keyboard <-> Farsi). So far, i've been able to add the keyboard I want in Settings Manager. Can't seem to find a way of switching between the languages. I've got SCIM installed, if that is relevant info
[12:25] <StrontiumCat> can any kind soul help?
[12:26] <StrontiumCat> guess not
[12:26] <StrontiumCat> well thanks anyway
[12:26] <StrontiumCat> i'll have to switch back to windows i suppose
[12:33] <marvin_> hi!
[12:35] <marvin_> i've got a problem with my soundcard and tried everything i found in the internet. the card is a onboard chip (realtek alc888). so snd-hda-intel should be the ight module. under the live system everything works perfect. on the installed system not. annyone that can help me?
[15:54] <popsch> how can I see the keys stored in the gnome-keyring? seahorse doesn't show me these keys
[16:00] <holstein> is it still at ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring ? can you view it in some capacity with nano? i wouldnt expect to be able to "view" it...
[16:04] <popsch> it's weird. apparently gigolo doesn't store the data in the keyring, if the login fails. However, it seems to remember it until you quit gigolo.
[16:04] <popsch> that might also be the reason why seahorse didn't store it
[16:44] <Marzata> "In Iceland, Keflavík was renowned as a rich source of musicians during the 1960s and 70s, and is therefore also known as bítlabærinn or "The Beatle Town"."?
[16:44] <Marzata> sorry
[16:58] <neronin> Something very strange has happened to me, for some reason i lost the right to sudo, Xubuntu says im not in the sudoers file. I suppose im no longer in the admin group. I restarted and tried to change the root password from failsafe mode, but when i do passwd root i get this: "authentication token manipulation error". What should I do here? I need to get back in the admin group/sudoers file
[17:02] <GridCube> neronin, I don't know why, but people with passwords problems usually have problems with the .ICEauthority file on ~/
[17:02] <GridCube> you could try moving it away and rebooting?
[17:02] <GridCube> i don't really know
[17:03] <neronin> ok, i will google it first
[17:05] <neronin> It doesnt seem to be my exact problem, from a quick read. But i will try it out, brb
[17:09] <neronin> GridCube:  No that didnt help. This is so weird. I have done absolutely nothing to the user accounts in the last few days, as far as i know
[17:09] <GridCube> :/
[17:10] <neronin> Is there a way i can reset (set) the root password, apart from the way i tried?
[17:11] <GridCube> mmm, i used the recovery session to reset it once, but you say that you already did that
[17:11] <neronin> and how earth can you get deleted from the admin group/the sudoers file?
[17:11] <GridCube> i mean, you can not sudo while being root
[17:11] <GridCube> tn
[17:11] <GridCube> tb
[17:11] <GridCube> that would be silly
[17:11] <Sysi> you can
[17:11] <GridCube> oh
[17:11] <GridCube> well
[17:12] <GridCube> :/ thats silly
[17:12] <neronin> yes, but im not root of course, but if i could get access to the root account my problems would not be problems anymore :)
[17:12] <Sysi> it would be silly to not, when needing something like sudo -u
[17:13] <Sysi> neronin:boot to failsafe session?
[17:13] <neronin> is there a root password set at the xubuntu installation? i dont remember if i did that, was a long time ago
[17:13] <GridCube> neronin, the root password its your main user password
[17:13] <neronin> Sysi:  I did, and i tried passwd root, which gave me the error message above
[17:14] <Sysi> there is no root passwd, first user just can use sudo
[17:14] <GridCube> i did this and it worked neronin http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[17:15] <Sysi> you could boot from livecd to check sudoers file
[17:15] <Sysi> I'll be off now, phone feels crippled for typing
[17:16] <neronin> GridCube:  that was the guide i first used, but since i cant do passwd root, or passwd username, without getting the error message i wrote about above i get nowhere
[17:16] <GridCube> :/
[17:17] <GridCube> i got that error too, but then i tried again, i think i first "mounted" the standard system
[17:17] <neronin> This is really silly.. I would hate to have to re-install everything .. :(
[17:17] <GridCube> i dont remember exactly what i did
[17:17] <GridCube> but then i could go to roo
[17:17] <GridCube> t
[17:17] <GridCube> and try the passwd
[17:18] <GridCube> let me reboot and check a moment
[17:18] <GridCube> ill be back
[17:18] <GridCube> :P
[17:22] <GridCube> neronin, yes :)
[17:23] <neronin> GridCube:  good news?
[17:23] <GridCube> you have to choose first to "reload" the disk
[17:23] <GridCube> and then choose root from the bottom of the list
[17:23] <neronin> at the failsafe menu? i didnt see a "reload" there, maybe i missed it
[17:24] <neronin> ok, i will try again, brb
[17:33] <neronin> GridCube:  I suppose you meant "Remount", right? When i choose remount it looks like the drive is mounted, but then i cant do anyhting else, let alone get back to the failsafe menu
[17:33] <neronin> i can only press ctrl +c, but then Xubuntu boots up normally
[17:34] <neronin> or do you mean something else with "reload"?
[17:35] <GridCube> no
[17:35] <GridCube> it was remount
[17:35] <GridCube> it should sent you bnack to the menu
[17:35] <GridCube> and then you choose the last root option
[17:36] <neronin> yes i would have loved if that would have worked, but it didnt send me back to the menu
[17:36] <GridCube> :/
[17:36] <GridCube> sad
[17:36] <GridCube> it does that for me, and then i can change the passwords
[17:36] <neronin> or maybe i have to wait a minute or two
[17:36] <neronin> I will try it out again, if that fails i will boot a live cd and try to edit the sudoers file
[17:37] <neronin> brb
[18:12] <dubphil> Hello ! any one knows how to open a .jar file ? I mean exploring it of course, squeeze doesn't recognize it, nore thunar
[18:13] <holstein> dubphil: http://alexsleat.co.uk/2010/06/07/howto-run-jar-files-in-ubuntu/
[18:14] <GridCube> doesnt the "no java on ubuntu" has started yet?
[18:14] <holstein> yeah, not sure how that works now with open java or whatever we have went to
[18:14] <GridCube> yep
[18:15] <dubphil> holstein: I know how to execute it, I just want to explore it
[18:15] <Myrtti> rename to zip
[18:15] <Marzata> make it +x and run it, no?
[18:15] <Myrtti> then open with unzip
[18:15] <dubphil> looks here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iebx0OQr-OQ
[18:16] <dubphil> I would like to do like him on Xubuntu :p
[18:17] <ghuman> ciao ita?
[18:18] <holstein> dubphil: i dont see anything there that cant be done.. you can always fire up a live CD and do the work there if you want it to be *exactly* how it is on the tutorial video
[18:18] <dubphil> Myrtti: hey your advice works :)
[18:18] <dubphil> amazing
[18:18] <GridCube> hey holstein http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-backtracks-on-deleting-Oracle-s-Sun-Java-1415541.html
[18:19] <Myrtti> same works with odt and other libreoffice formats :-P
[18:19] <holstein> GridCube: interesting... i hadnt followed up on that, and assumed itwas already on the way out
[18:20] <GridCube> holstein, me neither just searched it up
[18:20] <dubphil> arf not really, I can't delete files in squeeze :(
[18:21] <GridCube> lol Myrtti :P wikipedia says that jars are just zips with another file extension :P
[18:21] <GridCube> dubphil, you can like, extract files, edit or whatever and recompress
[18:21] <dubphil> holstein: I would be proud to do this whith my ubuntu ;)
[18:22] <Myrtti> GridCube: yup :->
[18:22] <dubphil> GridCube: yes if wikipedia is true then
[18:22] <GridCube> oh no you cant recompress just like that
[18:22] <GridCube> wikipedia says the order of compression its important, oh well, the more you know
[18:23] <dubphil> GridCube: I even try, experience will tell
[18:23] <GridCube> :P
[18:24] <GridCube> dubphil, http://java.sun.com/developer/Books/javaprogramming/JAR/basics/
[18:24] <here4thegear> so... I've installed xubuntu yesterday along side windows 7... I can boot into xubuntu just fine and I love it but... I can't boot into windows 7 even though I need to. It does show up on the boot screen and I can select it but it just kicks me back to boot
[18:25] <GridCube> here4thegear, open a terminal and write >sudo update-grub
[18:26] <dubphil> result : the jar rename to zip is opened by squeeze, but the extraction fail
[18:27] <here4thegear> GridCube: done and no joy... same issue.
[18:28] <GridCube> dubphil, read the link i pasted you earlier
[18:32] <GridCube> here4thegear, mmm
[18:32] <GridCube> do you have a recovery cd for 7?
[18:32] <here4thegear> no... these things come shipped with recovery partitions these days
[18:34] <GridCube> yes
[18:34] <GridCube> :/
[18:35] <GridCube> well try running a chkdsk against the 7 partition?
[18:35] <here4thegear> hm... sounds like a good idea.
[18:35] <GridCube> can you load the partition to check the files?
[18:35] <GridCube> mount it i mean
[18:36] <here4thegear> yes.. I can mount the partitian
[18:37] <GridCube> here4thegear, check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765197
[18:49] <here4thegear> Well, those directions bring me to "error: file not found." followed by "grub rescue>" now on my boot up... lol.. I did something wrong.
[18:49] <here4thegear> ^ for GridCube:
[18:52] <GridCube> :(
[18:52] <GridCube> you probably did here4thegear
[18:52] <GridCube> sorry
[18:53] <here4thegear> at this point, I have no clue what to do... at grub rescue> what can I type just to load into something?
[18:53] <GridCube> !grub
[18:54] <here4thegear> thanks... I'll check those
[18:55] <neronin> GridCube:  I did it! :) I started up a live cd and mounted the HDD rw and added myself to the sudoers file...pheew
[18:56] <GridCube> :D
[18:56] <neronin> I'm back!
[18:56] <GridCube> congrats
[18:56] <GridCube> o/
[18:56] <neronin> i would like to have those two hours of my life back though :)
[18:57] <GridCube> NO
[18:57] <here4thegear> I can get into diagnostics so... I'm running that to see if that will help anything... I doubt it will but... eh
[18:57] <GridCube> :P
[18:58] <here4thegear> is there a good live grub that detects partitions and lets you attempt to boot into them? That would at least get me into windows so that I can fix the mbr
[18:59] <neronin> GridCube:  and thanks for the help
[19:18] <GridCube> here4thegear, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[19:34] <DaveG_> hi - i am a xubuntu and to be honest a linux newbie and i have a little problem which I would welcome some help with please
[19:35] <DaveG_> I have 11.10 installed - but due to a little problem I have messed up the panel menu at the top of the screen
[19:35] <GridCube> !details
[19:35] <GridCube> DaveG_, how messed up?
[19:35] <DaveG_> is there a simple way to reset it as the manual method of adding and aranging components does not seem to work
[19:36] <DaveG_> well - it's tjhere - but I cannot get it to look like it did before I messed it up
[19:36] <DaveG_> separators / spacing seem to be the main problem
[19:37] <DaveG_> i was wondering if there was a file I could reset to get me back to a known good startintg position
[19:37] <GridCube> mmm there is a way
[19:37] <GridCube> but i cant remember it just now
[19:38] <GridCube> let me do some research and ill be back
[19:38] <GridCube> :)
[19:38] <DaveG_> ok - thank ypu very much
[19:39] <GridCube> delete all files inside ~/.config/xfce , then log back in :)
[19:39] <DaveG_> ok - let me have a go and get back to you in a moment
[19:41] <DaveG_> does the tilda character mean home directory ?
[19:42] <DaveG_> just trying to find it on a mac keyboard
[19:43] <GridCube> yes DaveG_
[19:43] <GridCube> :D the tilde character means /home/user
[19:44] <GridCube> you get there by writing cd and pressing enter in any terminal
[19:46] <GridCube> DaveG_, press alt-f2 and write: thunar /home/YOURUSER/.config/xfce4
[19:46] <GridCube> and move or delete the files you have ther
[19:47] <DaveG_> including dirs ?
[19:48] <GridCube> sure, if you are afraid, just move them to other folder
[19:48] <GridCube> if things go wrong you put them back
[19:48] <GridCube> but in theory xubuntu will just regenerate them as it where a clean boot
[19:50] <DaveG_> yay ! it worked
[19:50] <GridCube> :D awesome
[19:51] <DaveG_> thanks so much
[19:51] <GridCube> no problemo muchacho
[20:07] <cc_INC> Hi guys, I deleted my usr/share/themes folder by accident. Any ideas how to restore? Just create a new folder and download some themes or do I need a fresh new install?
[20:07] <knome> cc_INC, first one is okay.
[20:07] <cc_INC> Cool, thanks!
[20:10] <genii-around> Probably to remake the folder then install ubuntu-artwork which will populate it somewhat
[20:11] <genii-around> xubuntu-artwork , rather :)
[20:16] <Marzata> where to submit photos for xubu 12.04
[20:23] <cc_INC> Where can I find some decent Xubuntu themes? I am looking at xfce-look.org right now. But all suggestions are welcome
[20:23] <lighta> hey no ones using netbeans here ?
[20:24] <baizon> nope
[20:24] <baizon> eclipse here :)
[20:41] <piv1> lighta: there is one i just started tring called sublime text 2... worth checking out.
[20:42] <lighta> hmm
[20:43] <lighta> na actually my issue is that 7.1 doesn't want to start again,, well it do start but crashing =( I wonder if I was alone, search on the net most was about win xp
[22:15] <Deon> hi to all