=== ubott2 is now known as ubottu [00:47] 'sudo update-grub' will not run on liveUSB xubuntu 11.04. Is different command needed?? [01:29] Looking for opinions on using Dropbox? [01:33] U1 and Dropbox aren't too different [01:39] any advice on what to do with this? [01:40] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) [01:40] Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions Device [1734:1123] [01:40] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45 [01:40] Memory at fc000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] [01:40] Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] [01:40] I/O ports at 1800 [size=8] [01:40] Expansion ROM at [disabled] [01:40] Capabilities: [01:40] Kernel driver in use: i915 [01:40] Kernel modules: intelfb, i915 [01:40] 00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) [8086:2a03] (rev 03) [01:40] Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions Device [1734:1123] [01:40] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 [01:40] Memory at fc100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] [01:40] Capabilities: [01:40] icanhas no brightness control [01:40] icanhas no dual monitor settings separate workspaces [01:41] on the newest kernel [01:41] !pastebin | xxxxxxxx [01:41] xxxxxxxx: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:41] no hotkeys [01:41] sorry [01:42] acpi is mental [01:43] audio is realtek, coded 268 [01:43] which doesnt know what its doing [01:43] half the time [01:43] noone cares cos its intel junk [01:44] it seems the hardware is configured on the gma chips to have a weird tree [01:44] that begins with an ac/battery choice === metasansana is now known as yyyyyyyy [01:52] but noone cares [01:52] haha [01:55] or it is just silent because nobody knows the answer [02:01] true [02:02] xxxxxxxx: You could try the #kernel channel [02:03] i have been told on several channels literally thAT MY CHIPS ARE RUBBISH AND SHOULD GO ABD BUY ANOTHER LAPTOP [02:03] please calm down [02:03] ITS OK I DIDNT CRY [02:03] sorry it was accidental caps lock knocked rant [02:06] I didn't want to be rude but I was thinking along the same lines [02:06] Looks like the hardware is reluctant to me [02:07] not all hardware works as well in linux, that doesn't make other hardware worse than the other [02:07] Yeah just makes the vendor look evil [02:08] in that sense they all are, more or less. [02:08] the vendor is evil intel, so many different commands for the chipsets- was built to be difficult to escape windows [02:09] the functionality is there but there is no acpi support and the whole thing is integrated pathways- is the battery out then switch to 30 bright etc [02:10] prob seems to be fujitsus launch manger [02:10] and the lack of gma drivers [02:11] will try tthe kernel guys see if i can botch together a hotch potch of modules so it half works at least === yyyyyyyy is now known as Jogranda === Jogranda is now known as metasansana [03:15] hi guys, hey where can I edit menu please ?, (I would like to remove old netbeans application link) [03:23] lighta: What version of Xubuntu? [03:30] !version I guess, 11.10 oneric [03:30] lighta: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:31] i'm looking in /etc/xdg atm but didn't found it yet [03:32] sudo apt-get install alacarta --no-install-recommends [03:33] is that for me ? [03:33] alacarte [03:33] Yep, that's a nice menu editor [03:33] yes that what I jsut google [03:33] ok i'll try that thx [03:34] but juste for my info was I in good folder ? [03:34] Don't forget the "--no-install-recommends" part [03:34] Nope :P [03:34] The correct one is /usr/share/applications/ [03:35] ah ye ok [03:35] oh seem I had it alacarte [03:35] hmm that quite weird [03:35] alacarte doesn't see the entry I want to remove [03:36] I'll try do a screenshot [03:37] if only I could do a screenshot while menu open [03:39] hit printscreen keyboard key ? [03:40] (or use a digital camera :D ) [03:40] well does it work for you printscreen while you have xfce menu open ? [03:40] cause me it doesn't [03:47] ah it's ok finally he found it [03:48] well does it work for you printscreen while you have xfce menu open ? <- funnily enough, no it doesn't :P i call bug! :) [03:49] well taht ok I did something like screenshot --delay [03:50] :) [03:54] now I'm trying to fix netbeans but trough google it doesn't seem good : http://markmail.org/thread/nm7o6k2snrspl5wx [04:14] hey all, is there a way to clear the settings from simple scan? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [11:23] where did the network tab go, it was in ubuntu, xubuntu seems to not have it by default. [11:23] i can't detect the lan [11:37] istok: the network tab? [11:39] Marzata, yeah, to view local lan/network, it is usually located under the 'places' tab [11:39] i'm in a building with about 400 pc, i should be able to detect them, but even pings aren't working [11:40] if i run an instance of ubuntu however, it picks up the network fine === go8765_ is now known as Guest9192 [11:43] google doesn't tell me anything, i've been searching for days. [11:47] istok: with patience? [11:49] that, or i just use ubuntu :/ [11:49] i'd rather not. [11:50] Hi, microphone not working in xubuntu, can hear sound through speaker but not capturing, any ideas? [11:52] Hi! What is /var/crash? Some docs URL that you have? [11:53] ushills, clicking the sound should open the mixer, you should then be able to select which capture device to use by adding a control/master [11:53] when I do that I select the master (only option) still doesn't capture anything. [11:54] i.e select controls only give me master [11:54] ushills, that's the only way i know how to do it, mine didn't detect sound, i had to manually configure the alsa mixer [11:55] gry, crash dump images and the log files are written in /var/crash [11:55] google has info [11:55] I searched for docs, not found sane docs yet. :-) [12:03] (If you have some useful links, very welcome to share) [12:04] i don't, i just found the info on google, my /var/crash is empty [12:22] hello everyone [12:23] i want to enable farsi keyboard (and a method of switching from english keyboard <-> Farsi). So far, i've been able to add the keyboard I want in Settings Manager. Can't seem to find a way of switching between the languages. I've got SCIM installed, if that is relevant info [12:25] can any kind soul help? [12:26] guess not [12:26] well thanks anyway [12:26] i'll have to switch back to windows i suppose [12:33] hi! [12:35] i've got a problem with my soundcard and tried everything i found in the internet. the card is a onboard chip (realtek alc888). so snd-hda-intel should be the ight module. under the live system everything works perfect. on the installed system not. annyone that can help me? === xGrind is now known as xGrind[off] [15:54] how can I see the keys stored in the gnome-keyring? seahorse doesn't show me these keys [16:00] is it still at ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring ? can you view it in some capacity with nano? i wouldnt expect to be able to "view" it... [16:04] it's weird. apparently gigolo doesn't store the data in the keyring, if the login fails. However, it seems to remember it until you quit gigolo. [16:04] that might also be the reason why seahorse didn't store it [16:44] "In Iceland, Keflavík was renowned as a rich source of musicians during the 1960s and 70s, and is therefore also known as bítlabærinn or "The Beatle Town"."? [16:44] sorry [16:58] Something very strange has happened to me, for some reason i lost the right to sudo, Xubuntu says im not in the sudoers file. I suppose im no longer in the admin group. I restarted and tried to change the root password from failsafe mode, but when i do passwd root i get this: "authentication token manipulation error". What should I do here? I need to get back in the admin group/sudoers file === Pieman is now known as Paimun [17:02] neronin, I don't know why, but people with passwords problems usually have problems with the .ICEauthority file on ~/ [17:02] you could try moving it away and rebooting? [17:02] i don't really know [17:03] ok, i will google it first [17:05] It doesnt seem to be my exact problem, from a quick read. But i will try it out, brb [17:09] GridCube: No that didnt help. This is so weird. I have done absolutely nothing to the user accounts in the last few days, as far as i know [17:09] :/ [17:10] Is there a way i can reset (set) the root password, apart from the way i tried? [17:11] mmm, i used the recovery session to reset it once, but you say that you already did that [17:11] and how earth can you get deleted from the admin group/the sudoers file? [17:11] i mean, you can not sudo while being root [17:11] tn [17:11] tb [17:11] that would be silly [17:11] you can [17:11] oh [17:11] well [17:12] :/ thats silly [17:12] yes, but im not root of course, but if i could get access to the root account my problems would not be problems anymore :) [17:12] it would be silly to not, when needing something like sudo -u [17:13] neronin:boot to failsafe session? [17:13] is there a root password set at the xubuntu installation? i dont remember if i did that, was a long time ago [17:13] neronin, the root password its your main user password [17:13] Sysi: I did, and i tried passwd root, which gave me the error message above [17:14] there is no root passwd, first user just can use sudo [17:14] i did this and it worked neronin http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword [17:15] you could boot from livecd to check sudoers file [17:15] I'll be off now, phone feels crippled for typing [17:16] GridCube: that was the guide i first used, but since i cant do passwd root, or passwd username, without getting the error message i wrote about above i get nowhere [17:16] :/ [17:17] i got that error too, but then i tried again, i think i first "mounted" the standard system [17:17] This is really silly.. I would hate to have to re-install everything .. :( [17:17] i dont remember exactly what i did [17:17] but then i could go to roo [17:17] t [17:17] and try the passwd [17:18] let me reboot and check a moment [17:18] ill be back [17:18] :P [17:22] neronin, yes :) [17:23] GridCube: good news? [17:23] you have to choose first to "reload" the disk [17:23] and then choose root from the bottom of the list [17:23] at the failsafe menu? i didnt see a "reload" there, maybe i missed it [17:24] ok, i will try again, brb [17:33] GridCube: I suppose you meant "Remount", right? When i choose remount it looks like the drive is mounted, but then i cant do anyhting else, let alone get back to the failsafe menu [17:33] i can only press ctrl +c, but then Xubuntu boots up normally [17:34] or do you mean something else with "reload"? [17:35] no [17:35] it was remount [17:35] it should sent you bnack to the menu [17:35] and then you choose the last root option [17:36] yes i would have loved if that would have worked, but it didnt send me back to the menu [17:36] :/ [17:36] sad [17:36] it does that for me, and then i can change the passwords [17:36] or maybe i have to wait a minute or two [17:36] I will try it out again, if that fails i will boot a live cd and try to edit the sudoers file [17:37] brb [18:12] Hello ! any one knows how to open a .jar file ? I mean exploring it of course, squeeze doesn't recognize it, nore thunar [18:13] dubphil: http://alexsleat.co.uk/2010/06/07/howto-run-jar-files-in-ubuntu/ [18:14] doesnt the "no java on ubuntu" has started yet? [18:14] yeah, not sure how that works now with open java or whatever we have went to [18:14] yep [18:15] holstein: I know how to execute it, I just want to explore it [18:15] rename to zip [18:15] make it +x and run it, no? [18:15] then open with unzip [18:15] looks here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iebx0OQr-OQ [18:16] I would like to do like him on Xubuntu :p [18:17] ciao ita? [18:18] dubphil: i dont see anything there that cant be done.. you can always fire up a live CD and do the work there if you want it to be *exactly* how it is on the tutorial video [18:18] Myrtti: hey your advice works :) [18:18] amazing [18:18] hey holstein http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-backtracks-on-deleting-Oracle-s-Sun-Java-1415541.html [18:19] same works with odt and other libreoffice formats :-P [18:19] GridCube: interesting... i hadnt followed up on that, and assumed itwas already on the way out [18:20] holstein, me neither just searched it up [18:20] arf not really, I can't delete files in squeeze :( [18:21] lol Myrtti :P wikipedia says that jars are just zips with another file extension :P [18:21] dubphil, you can like, extract files, edit or whatever and recompress [18:21] holstein: I would be proud to do this whith my ubuntu ;) [18:22] GridCube: yup :-> [18:22] GridCube: yes if wikipedia is true then [18:22] oh no you cant recompress just like that [18:22] wikipedia says the order of compression its important, oh well, the more you know [18:23] GridCube: I even try, experience will tell [18:23] :P [18:24] dubphil, http://java.sun.com/developer/Books/javaprogramming/JAR/basics/ [18:24] so... I've installed xubuntu yesterday along side windows 7... I can boot into xubuntu just fine and I love it but... I can't boot into windows 7 even though I need to. It does show up on the boot screen and I can select it but it just kicks me back to boot [18:25] here4thegear, open a terminal and write >sudo update-grub [18:26] result : the jar rename to zip is opened by squeeze, but the extraction fail [18:27] GridCube: done and no joy... same issue. [18:28] dubphil, read the link i pasted you earlier [18:32] here4thegear, mmm [18:32] do you have a recovery cd for 7? [18:32] no... these things come shipped with recovery partitions these days [18:34] yes [18:34] :/ [18:35] well try running a chkdsk against the 7 partition? [18:35] hm... sounds like a good idea. [18:35] can you load the partition to check the files? [18:35] mount it i mean [18:36] yes.. I can mount the partitian [18:37] here4thegear, check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765197 [18:49] Well, those directions bring me to "error: file not found." followed by "grub rescue>" now on my boot up... lol.. I did something wrong. [18:49] ^ for GridCube: [18:52] :( [18:52] you probably did here4thegear [18:52] sorry [18:53] at this point, I have no clue what to do... at grub rescue> what can I type just to load into something? [18:53] !grub [18:53] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [18:54] thanks... I'll check those [18:55] GridCube: I did it! :) I started up a live cd and mounted the HDD rw and added myself to the sudoers file...pheew [18:56] :D [18:56] I'm back! [18:56] congrats [18:56] o/ [18:56] i would like to have those two hours of my life back though :) [18:57] NO [18:57] I can get into diagnostics so... I'm running that to see if that will help anything... I doubt it will but... eh [18:57] :P [18:58] is there a good live grub that detects partitions and lets you attempt to boot into them? That would at least get me into windows so that I can fix the mbr [18:59] GridCube: and thanks for the help === xGrind[off] is now known as xGrind [19:18] here4thegear, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ [19:34] hi - i am a xubuntu and to be honest a linux newbie and i have a little problem which I would welcome some help with please [19:35] I have 11.10 installed - but due to a little problem I have messed up the panel menu at the top of the screen [19:35] !details [19:35] Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [19:35] DaveG_, how messed up? [19:35] is there a simple way to reset it as the manual method of adding and aranging components does not seem to work [19:36] well - it's tjhere - but I cannot get it to look like it did before I messed it up [19:36] separators / spacing seem to be the main problem [19:37] i was wondering if there was a file I could reset to get me back to a known good startintg position [19:37] mmm there is a way [19:37] but i cant remember it just now [19:38] let me do some research and ill be back [19:38] :) [19:38] ok - thank ypu very much [19:39] delete all files inside ~/.config/xfce , then log back in :) [19:39] ok - let me have a go and get back to you in a moment [19:41] does the tilda character mean home directory ? [19:42] just trying to find it on a mac keyboard [19:43] yes DaveG_ [19:43] :D the tilde character means /home/user [19:44] you get there by writing cd and pressing enter in any terminal [19:46] DaveG_, press alt-f2 and write: thunar /home/YOURUSER/.config/xfce4 [19:46] and move or delete the files you have ther [19:47] including dirs ? [19:48] sure, if you are afraid, just move them to other folder [19:48] if things go wrong you put them back [19:48] but in theory xubuntu will just regenerate them as it where a clean boot [19:50] yay ! it worked [19:50] :D awesome [19:51] thanks so much [19:51] no problemo muchacho [20:07] Hi guys, I deleted my usr/share/themes folder by accident. Any ideas how to restore? Just create a new folder and download some themes or do I need a fresh new install? [20:07] cc_INC, first one is okay. [20:07] Cool, thanks! [20:10] Probably to remake the folder then install ubuntu-artwork which will populate it somewhat [20:11] xubuntu-artwork , rather :) [20:16] where to submit photos for xubu 12.04 [20:23] Where can I find some decent Xubuntu themes? I am looking at xfce-look.org right now. But all suggestions are welcome [20:23] hey no ones using netbeans here ? [20:24] nope [20:24] eclipse here :) [20:41] lighta: there is one i just started tring called sublime text 2... worth checking out. [20:42] hmm [20:43] na actually my issue is that 7.1 doesn't want to start again,, well it do start but crashing =( I wonder if I was alone, search on the net most was about win xp === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:15] hi to all