[00:30] <littlegirl> Hey there, I got this email and wonder if it's legitimate: "We have recently moved our forum to vBulletin, and part of moving to this new software requires you to reset your password.  For security reasons, passwords were not migrated over.  If you follow this link and enter your email address you will be emailed directions to resetting your password."
[00:30] <littlegirl> It's from support@kubuntuforums.net if that helps any.
[00:32] <mydogsnameisrudy> you a member of kubuntuforums?
[00:32] <littlegirl> Yeah.
[00:32] <littlegirl> But not as a moderator or anything - just a user.
[00:33] <Riddell> littlegirl: kubuntu forums is an independent site and nothing to do with us so I'm afraid I don't know
[00:33] <Riddell> kubuntuforums.net does have a new look I see and it says it's using vbulletin
[00:34] <littlegirl> Riddell: Okay, thanks anyway. (:
[00:34] <littlegirl> Riddell: Ah, then maybe it is legitimate. But I think I'll just try to log in rather than following the link. (:
[00:34] <Riddell> littlegirl: yes very wise
[00:35] <littlegirl> Thanks for the help. (:
[01:58] <jjman6> Muon software center or updater doesn't seem to have access to do updates anymore.  where as Kpackagekit had no problems prior to upgrade
[03:18] <datruth> what are some light weight stable distro's that can run kde4?
[03:19] <dies_irae> datruth: Gentoo
[03:19] <dies_irae> or puppy
[03:20] <datruth> hrmm
[03:20] <datruth> i remember hours of compile time in gentoo
[03:20] <James147> datruth: kde isnt normally considered lightweight ^^
[03:21] <datruth> true
[03:21] <James147> datruth: thus, you dont normally find it on "lightweight" distros...
[03:21] <datruth> but for the linux distro itself I am looking for something lightweight with maybe more support for my laptop
[03:21] <James147> datruth: if you want a minimlist distro (without the compile time) then archlinux might be a good choise
[03:21] <dies_irae> datruth: what your specs+
[03:21] <dies_irae> ?
[03:22] <datruth> i7 2.2ghz 12gb ram
[03:22] <dies_irae> lol
[03:23] <dies_irae> u don't need lightweight
[03:24] <datruth> this is true
[03:24] <James147> dies_irae: there is a difference between need and want ^^
[03:24] <datruth> but thats what im aiming for
[03:26] <dies_irae> Gentoo + fluxbox
[03:27] <James147> datruth: also, you can try installing  kubuntu-low-fat-settings to improve preformance of kde in kubuntu
[03:27] <datruth> hrmm
[03:27]  * datruth is thinking of debian
[03:28] <dies_irae> datruth: asking for a different distro on the distro channel u don't want is counter productive if not hostile.
[03:28] <dies_irae> datruth: plz    ask in #linux
[03:29] <datruth> hrmm I think this is the best channel to ask as I still want to run kde
[03:29] <James147> datruth: there is also #kde
[03:30] <datruth> I'll try them to
[03:30] <datruth> hrmm so kubuntu is not kde4?
[03:31] <James147> datruth: it uses kde4
[03:31] <datruth> kubuntu
[03:38] <datruth> so then kubuntu is not ubuntu?
[03:39] <James147> datruth: kubuntu is the ubuntu base system with kde install instead of gnome
[03:40] <James147> datruth: they both share the same repos and you can install both kde and gnome for a hybrid between them by installing either kubuntu-dekstop or ubuntu-desktop
[03:40] <datruth> so installing kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu should be ok? or should I format and install with the kubuntu iso?
[03:41] <datruth> my plasma-desktop keeps crashing :(
[03:41] <James147> datruth: that is fine, you can remove gnome as well if you dont want to use it anymore
[03:41] <James147> !purekde
[03:41] <datruth> yeah ive done that already
[03:42] <James147> datruth: create a new user and see if it crashes with them, that will tell you if its a user config or system problem
[03:42] <datruth> hrmm
[03:52] <datruth> have new user created
[03:52] <datruth> hrmm profile seems to load ok
[03:53] <datruth> For those who use kubuntu or ubuntu+kde4 how long does it tkae to boot up normally?
[03:56] <James147> datruth: inital login takes alittle longer as it has to set things up
[04:00] <datruth> James147: true whats the normal boot time on a fast machine?
[04:01] <James147> not sure, but under a min from power on to desktop
[04:05] <pangolin> hey James147 I just wanted to thank you for the help this morning and let you k now i got it all sorted out thanks to your nudge in the right direction.
[04:05] <pangolin> know*
[04:06] <James147> pangolin: no problem :) waht was your solution?
[04:07] <pangolin> trick was to first: not loose patience. second: selecting the correct device to boot from in bios.
[04:08] <pangolin> for some reason it was trying to boot from the external HDD which has no os on it.
[04:08] <James147> heh
[04:49] <datruth> How can I fix my sound it plays through the headphonesx and laptop sxpeakers
[04:49] <datruth> speakers*
[05:16] <camey> hhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:28] <tristan3299> hi
[05:29] <tristan3299> why is it that dolphin doesnt work unless under root
[05:29] <tristan3299> any body here???
[05:41] <domenic> as in you have to do sudo dolphin
[05:41] <domenic> from a terminal?
[05:41] <domenic> hey guys/girls
[05:41] <domenic> i messed up my Kmix
[05:42] <domenic> so i uninstalled, and reinstalled
[05:42] <domenic> all the audio works again, but I don't have the ability to manipulate volume-per-application
[05:42] <domenic> is there a way to restore this functionality?
[05:42] <FloodBotK3> domenic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:44] <Shaan7> tristan3299: try kdesudo dolphin
[05:46] <domenic> he shouldn't have to.  Sounds like you have a permissions problem.  Find where dolphin is installed and make sure the executable isn't restricted
[05:57] <len__> I have some questions about ibus.  I'm trying to get Japanese input set up.  There is not a lot of good documentation on how to set this up properly in kde, but I got it mostly working.
[05:57] <len__> First problem is that is is working in everything except Libre Office.
[05:59] <len__> Second problem is that that if I launch ibus-kde manually from the command line, I get the ibus system try icon, but if I add ibus-daemon to the autolaunch, it loads the ibus daemon ok, but I don't get the system tray icon.
[06:00] <len__> *first line should say "If I launch ibus-daemon from manually"
[06:00] <len__> sans from
[06:01] <len__> Is anyone here using ibus?
[06:10] <Guest92953> hello
[06:11] <Guest92953> hai
[06:13] <Guest92953> hello
[07:04] <openports> hum
[07:08] <LINKSWORD2> Hey guys, I'm running Kubuntu 10.04 and need to upgrade to 10.10, but the next distro that Kubuntu is finding to upgrade with is 11.04.
[07:08] <LINKSWORD2> I've heard that skipping over distros in the upgrade process can cause some nasty problems... So how do I upgrade to 10.10?
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm.... I just tried sudo do-release-upgrade, and got an error that "apt-get" or "aptitude" may already be running...
[07:17] <LINKSWORD2> No help at all? Come on...
[07:23] <openports> yep nothing has help jest a help button
[07:25] <openports> baaaa
[07:30] <Daskreech> moooo
[07:38] <DaemonFC> a problem had been bugging me for quite a while now and I just noticed it again today
[07:39] <DaemonFC> ever since Kubuntu 10.10(?), kdm has been set to reset the X server on log out instead of terminating it and spawning a new instance
[07:39] <DaemonFC> and all that seems to cause it for the system tohang
[07:39] <DaemonFC> *is
[07:39] <DaemonFC> does anyone ever plan to fix that?
[07:42] <Tm_T> is this been reported?
[07:43] <DaemonFC> I don't know, each time I go to upgrade to a new release I just fix it myself
[07:44] <DaemonFC> I noticed it is still doing it in 12.04
[07:44] <DaemonFC> but it did it in 11.10, 11.04, and 10.10 as well
[07:44] <DaemonFC> uncommenting #TerminateServer=True in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc fixes the problem\
[07:45] <Tm_T> DaemonFC: please report this, and provide all related information of your setup (what graphics card (chip), drivers you use etc)
[07:46] <Tm_T> it could be more of a bug in display drivers for example (:
[07:46] <DaemonFC> it doesn't happen in any other distribution that uses kde
[07:47] <DaemonFC> so I don't see why it would be a video driver bug
[07:48] <Tm_T> it still could, there's many variables
[07:48] <Tm_T> and it was just an example, why this should be reported with as much details as possible so the root cause is possible to be located and fixed properly
[07:49] <DaemonFC> other distributions seem to use the terminate server option
[07:49] <DaemonFC> Kubuntu comments that out
[07:49] <Tm_T> I understand
[07:50] <Daskreech> DaemonFC: You mean it doesn't terminate the server or it doesn't hang?
[07:51] <DaemonFC> there is a block of comments explaining that option
[07:52] <Daskreech> Default for that is don't terminate?
[07:52] <DaemonFC> "Restart instead of resetting the local X-server after session exit. # Use it if the server leaks memory etc. # Default is false"
[07:52] <DaemonFC> they say that's the default, but Fedora's KDE spin has obviously changed that line
[07:53] <DaemonFC> to uncomment TerminateServer=True
[07:53] <DaemonFC> so they've probably had problems with trying to reset it and have given up
[07:53] <Daskreech> And Suse?
[07:54] <DaemonFC> I don't know what Suse does, I won't use it
[07:54] <DaemonFC> Mageia and Mandriva both change it
[07:55] <DaemonFC> I've seen Chakra doing that too, but it's been a while
[07:55] <Daskreech> DaemonFC: file a bug with Launchpad then
[07:55] <DaemonFC> I don't know what they do right now
[08:05] <DaemonFC> I tried hitting submit and Launchpad says "There was 1 error"
[08:05] <DaemonFC> and does not specify what the error was
[08:05] <Daskreech> :-) Brilliance
[08:05] <Daskreech> I would say submit a bug on launchpad about that error but ....
[08:06] <DaemonFC> uh huh
[08:07] <DaemonFC> I need to file another one while I'm at it
[08:07] <Daskreech> what's that one?
[08:07] <DaemonFC> Firefox KDE support quit working entirely in Precise (grrr)
[08:07] <DaemonFC> If I had a dollar for every time that started messing up...
[08:08] <Daskreech> Firefox has KDE support?
[08:08] <DaemonFC> Daskreech: It uses a stupid ld preload hack on Firefox
[08:08] <Daskreech> ugh
[08:08] <DaemonFC> to slap it silly and make it use the KDE file picker
[08:08] <DaemonFC> it's nice when it works, but obviously Mozilla doesn't give a crap if it does
[08:09] <DaemonFC> so it sometimes stops working B-)
[08:09] <DaemonFC> and sometimes it stops bringing up a file picker at all
[08:09] <DaemonFC> though at least this time, it does bring up the GTK one
[08:11] <DaemonFC> apport needs to let you file bugs against things that are not currently installed
[08:11] <DaemonFC> "DUH, of course it's not installed! It broke, I removed it!"
[08:11] <DaemonFC> :)
[08:12] <Daskreech> :-) hard to run debug against something that isn't there
[08:12] <DaemonFC> well, I have an idea
[08:13] <DaemonFC> oh it does now
[08:13] <DaemonFC> excellent
[08:13] <DaemonFC> that means I don't have to lie to it like I was about to then fix it later
[08:43] <jussi> Tm_T: Ill ask here because people dont like us talking kde in there :P Do you know how to get gmail contacts in Kmail/Kontact? I have gmail calendars...
[08:44] <Tm_T> jussi: I know how it should work, as I did set up it here
[08:44] <jussi> Tm_T: so... tell me.... :D
[08:44] <Tm_T> jussi: let me check if it actually works first (:
[08:44] <jussi> :)
[08:45] <Tm_T> jussi: I think it syncs "my contacts" here, which is empty in my case, awww
[08:45] <jussi> Tm_T: Ive just been googleing... seems it was easier than I thought...
[08:45] <Tm_T> jussi: I did just add "akonadi google contact resource"
[08:45] <jussi> yup
[08:45] <Tm_T> or similar
[08:45] <jussi> and it worked :=)
[08:45] <Tm_T> goody
[08:46] <Tm_T> back in the day when I fought with it previously, it wasn't so easy
[08:46] <jussi> except a bunch of contacts dont have names, but still, not bad
[08:47] <Tm_T> jussi: I wonder if using exchange protocol would be any better
[08:47] <Tm_T> or the other options it offers
[08:47] <jussi> Tm_T: doubt it. I think its that the contacts are unnamed in google - coming from chat or somehtign
[08:47] <Tm_T> righto
[11:05] <Riddell> ** KDE SC 4.8 testing needed, message me to find out how
[11:08] <ikonia> SC ?
[11:08] <Tm_T> ikonia: Software Collection I recall
[11:09] <Tm_T> KDE is an umbrella project, and KDE SC is the main product
[11:09] <ikonia> never heard that before
[11:09] <Tm_T> ikonia: skillfully managed to avoid then (:
[11:10] <Tm_T> ikonia: http://dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/repositioning-kde-brand
[11:11] <Tm_T> ah, Compilation (;
[11:11] <dies_irae> ikonia: u never heard of SC??
[11:12] <dies_irae> ikonia: how about trying different software for a change?
[11:13] <dies_irae> there's a whole world out there outside ubuntu gnome cozzy bubble
[11:13] <dies_irae> wow, just wow.
[11:14] <ikonia> dies_irae: I don't use ubuntu gnome, so get of your high horse
[11:15] <Tm_T> dies_irae: that is not constructive use of this channel, so let's keep that kind of comments away from here, please
[11:19] <ikonia> I had never heard the phrase "SC" in terms of the release.
[11:23] <m1lt0n> Hello. I have a question: I downloaded the kubuntu 11.10 cd image (I've replicated the issue with other distros, too, so there is nothing wrong with the created cd) and despite the fact that on boot, it seems that the CD is starting to load (no message on the screen, though), fedora (I have fedora 16 with gnome 3 and Windows 7 dual boot) loads (without showing the grub menu in order to choose)
[11:24] <m1lt0n> any idea?
[11:24] <m1lt0n> I've changed distros several times before, and I'm facing this problem for the first time.
[11:35] <gribouille> hi
[11:35] <gribouille> when will the kde 4.8 packages be released?
[11:37] <Tm_T> gribouille: when all is ready (:
[11:37] <gribouille> tm_T: when?
[11:37] <Tm_T> one cannot predict the future reliably
[11:41] <gribouille> tm_t: are the package for the RC?
[11:42] <Tm_T> what package?
[11:43] <gribouille> tm_t: kubuntu packages
[11:44] <Tm_T> gribouille: yes, there's RC packages available, see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.7.97
[11:44] <Tm_T> 4.8 release packages are incoming, but not yet ready for public consumption, especially as the release isn't out yet
[11:46] <gribouille> tm_T: the final KDE release should be nearly identical to the latest RC, so there should be no problem
[11:47] <James147> gribouille: but if kde hasnt been released yet how can it be packaged?
[11:47] <gribouille> James147, I'm not saying it should already be packaged
[11:48] <gribouille> I'm just saying jubuntu packages should be released soon after the KDE release
[11:48] <James147> gribouille: and it normally does, within a reasonable time frame
[11:49] <James147> gribouille: 1-2days at most normally
[11:50] <James147> given there arnt any unforseen delays
[13:05] <Riddell> gribouille: want to test?
[13:05] <Riddell> or James147
[13:17] <gribouille> Riddell, no thanks. I don't want to break my system
[13:18] <Riddell> fair enough, then wait is what you'll have to do
[13:20] <aguitel> what repo need to install last kde in kubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:24] <Riddell> aguitel: we are looking for testers for the unreleased 4.8 if that is what you are asking
[13:24] <Riddell> else see kubuntu.org
[13:26] <gribouille> Riddell, when do you plan to release?
[13:27] <ts2> gribouille: once everything is packaged and tested, more people helping means quicker release ;)
[13:28] <gribouille> ts2, but there have been betas and RCs for quite some time
[13:29] <ts2> if the team packaged every alpha/beta/rc, they'd just have far too much work to do
[13:29] <ts2> the work currently is for the full release
[13:30] <aguitel> Riddell, yes
[13:30] <gribouille> ts2, do you mean nothing is packaged before the full release?
[13:31] <ts2> gribouille: no, I mean that it's physically impossible for the Kubuntu developers to package every pre-release version
[13:31] <ts2> they still work on packaging the actual releases though, by working with the KDE project
[13:34] <Riddell> gribouille: when it's ready and when I've found people to test it
[13:35] <Riddell> gribouille: betas and RCs have also been packaged and tested before we release them but this is the final one so we can't just release without testing
[13:38] <gribouille> Riddell, are there a lot of differences betwen the last RC and the final release?
[13:42] <Riddell> gribouille: depends on your scale for "lot" but there are differences
[13:42] <Riddell> KDE has never treated RCs as RCs
[13:46] <gribouille> Riddell, do you mean they treat RCs as betas?
[13:47] <Riddell> gribouille: yes, they always expect to make changes between RCs and final release
[13:47] <Riddell> which is why I'm still waiting on testers :)
[13:52] <gribouille> Riddell, I doubt they made a lot of changes in three weeks
[13:53] <Tm_T> gribouille: I'd say Riddell is in good position to have his opinion (if it can be counted as opinion) (:
[13:53] <gribouille> tm_t: sure
[13:54] <gribouille> tm_t: I'm not saying he's wrong
[13:55] <Riddell> gribouille: Tm_T's testing has found two major problems already
[13:55] <gribouille> Riddell, whic ones?
[13:55] <Riddell> by major I mean package dependency issues
[13:55] <Riddell> akonadi had one because it only did a release last last night so no beta etc for us to test with
[14:06] <Linkmaster> im wanting to get the following graphics card to build my own rig, and im looking at the reviews, but im not seeing anything about linux..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-121-435&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo
[14:18] <Riddell> Linkmaster: Geforce is nvidia I think so that'll mean binary driver fun
[14:19] <Linkmaster> Riddell: thats what i was afraid of...its not a super new card though, so i was hoping otherwise. i also asked in ##hardware, hopefully they can give some insight as well
[14:20] <Riddell> Linkmaster: #ubuntu as well is fine to try, ask for experiences of ubuntu with geforce
[14:24] <excognac> hi all anyone knows how to check the toner in a dell laser priner?
[14:42] <Guest75274> #l
[14:43] <Guest75274> #/list
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Riddell,  , you were calling for kde 4.8 testers ? I'm running 4.8 on 12.04 , if that helps .
[15:15] <Riddell> BluesKaj: yes want to help?
[15:15] <Riddell> msged details
[15:15] <BluesKaj> ok yes , I'll check it out
[15:47] <Riddell> BluesKaj: how did you get on?  can you join us in #kubuntu-devel to say?
[16:17] <savio> how install splah screen ?
[16:17] <savio> any help?
[16:25] <BarkingFish> Can i get some help with apper please?  I'm pulling updates, and some of them have a Yellow Shield with a black ! in the middle, does it mean something is wrong with the update, or it's unsupported, or what? :)
[16:30] <peace_> BarkingFish: sudo apt-get update
[16:30] <BarkingFish> ok
[16:31] <peace_> BarkingFish: sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:37] <BarkingFish> right, back in a bit, upgrade requires that I reboot
[16:37] <BarkingFish> see you in a few moments
[16:39] <johannes__> hey, kopete won't work with icq. everytime connect, but nothing happens.
[16:39] <johannes__> can anyone help me?
[16:39] <acidrain> need a little help
[16:44] <aguitel> how install kde sc 4.8 in 11.10 ?
[16:45] <aguitel> need to enable special repo ?
[16:51] <Riddell> oh aguitel left before I could tell him
[17:00] <Guest32572> hello is anyone to help me
[17:01] <BrixSat> Guest32572:  just ask, dont ask for help.
[17:01] <BrixSat> im cant compile an app getting this error checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
[17:32] <ilkmgf> Question, hope I'm framing it sensibly: I've been using mplayer on the command line to stream an internet radio station, but it's annoying because I have to type out the url every time, or scroll back through my bash history to find it. Is there a way to use KIO slaves to simplify this process?
[17:36] <neo69> hi
[17:38] <neo69> someone mixed the components on my bottom bar, is there some way to make it look like the default?
[17:58] <James147> ilkmgf: is it the same url (or set ot urls) each time?
[18:39] <Roge152> Was the dual boot option taken out of the installer now ?
[18:39] <Roge152> I seem to remember an option to install along side windows.
[18:41] <James147> Roge152: I dont think it was, but the option you get will depend on your system setup
[18:42] <Roge152> Hmm
[18:42] <Roge152> The only option given to me is, to use the entire disk.
[18:43] <James147> Roge152: if the option isnt there then you shold beable to pick the manual partition option and setup the partition manually the way you want. So long as you dont delete teh windows partition grub should find it and add it to the menu
[18:43] <Roge152> Fair enough then, thanks.
[18:49] <Riddell> KDE Plasma & Apps 4.8 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.0
[18:51] <James147> Riddell: upgrade done rebooting now
[18:57] <gribouille> Will I break my system if I update to KDE 4.8?
[18:58] <soee> ;D
[19:03] <hassur> e ai galera?
[19:03] <hassur> spink portuguese
[19:04] <cedrik> spink?
[19:05] <James147> gribouille: you shouldn't, but somethings things do go wrong :)
[19:05] <hassur> speak
[19:06] <hassur> esse bate-bapo é tecnico?
[19:21] <danielo> hello
[19:21] <danielo> i have problem with distro upfrade to 4.8
[19:22] <danielo> plis help
[19:23] <danielo> danielo@danielos:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:23] <danielo> Czytanie list pakietów... Gotowe
[19:23] <danielo> Budowanie drzewa zależności
[19:23] <danielo> Odczyt informacji o stanie... Gotowe
[19:23] <danielo> Należy uruchomić "apt-get -f install", aby je naprawić.
[19:23] <FloodBotK3> danielo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <danielo> Następujące pakiety mają niespełnione zależności:
[19:24] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816837/
[19:25] <danielo> can You help me?
[19:32] <domenic> hey guys
[19:33] <domenic> i was hoping someone could help me with KMix
[19:33] <domenic> I broke it, uninstalled, and reinstalled it
[19:33] <domenic> and now it no longer shows per-application volumes
[19:34] <danielo> Hey Guys, I am looking for help. I wanted to have brand new kde 4.8 so I've added backports ppa and I have done sudo apt-get distro-update. Everything have been downloaded, but the error came out:
[19:34] <danielo> here You have
[19:34] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816837/
[19:34] <danielo> It goes about dependencies, but I do not know How to resolve the problem.
[19:34] <danielo> now I am afraid If I will restart my kubuntu want not to run anymore
[19:34] <FloodBotK3> danielo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <peace_> danielo: ppa are not supported
[19:34] <danielo> what does it mean?
[19:34] <James147> danielo: try running "sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:34] <peace_> !ppa
[19:34] <danielo> I've tryied it
[19:35] <peace_> danielo: now you know because add a ppa is dangerous
[19:35] <peace_> next time don't do it
[19:35] <James147> danielo: then remove the repos, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f" readd the repos and then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sduo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[19:36] <danielo> here is an output
[19:36] <peace_> James147: typo :P
[19:36] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816855/
[19:36] <danielo> witch repos should I disable?
[19:37] <James147> danielo: run "sudo dpkg --configure --pending" first
[19:37] <James147> danielo: the backports repo
[19:37] <James147> peace_: where?
[19:37] <peace_> James147: sduo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[19:37] <danielo> but if I do it I would not have kde 4.8 right/???
[19:38] <James147> peace_: o yeah :)
[19:38] <danielo> such I waste :(
[19:38] <James147> danielo: basically what you have to do is remove the repo, fix your packages then add it again and update
[19:39] <danielo> I am runnig it right now "sudo dpkg --configure --pending"
[19:39] <danielo> It seams to work...
[19:41] <danielo> I have question http://paste.ubuntu.com/816863/
[19:42] <James147> danielo: dosnt much matter what you answer, Y to reset kdm to its default settings, N is you have changed kdms setting at all
[19:45] <Guest61537> hi all. where should i report bugs in KDE 4.8 ppa oneiric packaging?
[19:45] <Guest61537> too bad no comments possible at kubuntu.org site
[19:48] <danielo> and I've got that output http://paste.ubuntu.com/816868/ its look like the list of errors, and now I do not know If that configuration will run?
[19:54] <James147> danielo: what dose sudo apt-get install -f say?
[19:55] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816877/
[19:55] <danielo> here is output for sudo apt-get install -f
[19:56] <James147> enter "y"
[19:56] <Guest61537> prepend LC_ALL=C to get messages in English
[19:57] <James147> danielo: then run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[19:57] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816882/
[19:57] <Guest61537> "LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[19:57] <James147> danielo: remove the backports repo first
[19:57] <danielo> I've gave You an output, see it
[19:58] <danielo> there are some errors
[19:58] <Guest61537> the usual solution is to install the package manually with dpkg -i --force-all
[19:58] <Guest61537> then rerun apt-get -f install
[19:59] <Guest61537> you can find packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:00] <danielo> James147 what to do? remove backports repo first? then run it  "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[20:00] <James147> danielo: remvoe the repos, then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f"
[20:01] <danielo> ok
[20:01] <danielo> thx
[20:01] <James147> danielo: then add the repos and do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:01] <James147> and "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[20:03] <TaiChiMustDo> Todays upgrade dies updating Kiriki.
[20:03] <danielo> Just does 2 entries??? #deb http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[20:03] <danielo> deb-src http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[20:03] <James147> danielo: yeah
[20:06] <danielo> I got few errors about 404 not found
[20:06] <danielo> can I ignore it???
[20:07] <James147> danielo: during which command?
[20:07] <danielo> sudo apt-get install -f
[20:08] <James147> danielo: did you run "sudo apt-get update" first?
[20:08] <danielo> yes
[20:09] <danielo> moment
[20:09] <danielo> the eror cames with command  $ sudo apt-get update
[20:10] <danielo> now next http://paste.ubuntu.com/816893/
[20:10] <TaiChiMustDo> danielo: you should always use 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' first. 'sudo apt-get install -f' should prompt you for this.
[20:11] <sheytan> someone already on 4.8 in oneiric?
[20:11] <danielo> Sheytan I am tryin
[20:12] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816900/
[20:12] <sheytan> danielo means you're installing, downloading or havin issues right now?
[20:13] <danielo> I have installed but errors with dependencies came up, so now it is a struggle with dependencies
[20:13] <TaiChiMustDo> I'm finishing upgrade now after Apper crashed. Now on CLI using 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[20:13] <sheytan> i'll try too ;) Greets  from Poland btw :D
[20:14] <danielo> I am from POLAND
[20:14] <danielo> :D
[20:14] <sheytan> i see ;]
[20:15] <danielo> heh
[20:15] <danielo> Try it and give back a solution :p
[20:15] <danielo> Sheytan
[20:16] <sheytan> danielo i will. downloading pkgs now
 I got problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/816906/
[20:21] <danielo> Sheytan maybe You would check that http://paste.ubuntu.com/816906/
[20:21] <sheytan> danielo: it doesn't say nothing to me :) am not a dev, just a user :D
[20:23] <James147> danielo: and "sudo apt-get install -f" says?
[20:23] <TaiChiMustDo> danielo: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[20:23] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816913/
[20:24] <danielo> It is really  a mess
[20:24] <James147> danielo: always answer y to taht prompt
[20:25] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816917/
[20:25] <danielo> ok. now I got it http://paste.ubuntu.com/816917/
[20:26] <TaiChiMustDo> 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[20:27] <danielo> TaiChiMustdo now i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/816922/
[20:27] <danielo> dependencies error
[20:28] <James147> danielo: uninstall the packages that are causing the error
[20:28] <danielo> so??? this one??? kde-workspace-bin
[20:28] <danielo>  kde-window-manager
[20:28] <danielo>  kde-window-manager-common
[20:28] <danielo>  linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic
[20:28] <danielo>  libtaskmanager4abi3
[20:28] <FloodBotK3> danielo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <danielo>  plasma-netbook
[20:29] <James147> yes that list
[20:30] <TaiChiMustDo> WooHoo! KDE 4.8.0! Nice
[20:31] <danielo> I wonna to :(
[20:31] <TaiChiMustDo> Alittle glitchy on the upgrade using Apper but CLI using 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' fixed that.
[20:32] <TaiChiMustDo> Maybe I can help?
[20:35] <danielo> what now?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/816931/
[20:35] <danielo> I got that errors all the time???
[20:36] <James147> danielo: remove the offending packages
[20:38] <danielo> I am trying but http://paste.ubuntu.com/816937/
[20:38] <danielo> errors errors
[20:38] <James147> danielo: "sudo dpkg -r --pending"
[20:38] <TaiChiMustDo> danielo: Are you interrupting the process? "dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste killed by signal you (Broken pipe)"
[20:39] <danielo> no
[20:39] <danielo> maybe I will delete the source.list
[20:39] <danielo> It can be messed
[20:39] <danielo> sudo dpkg -r --pending gives nothing :D
[20:40] <sheytan> danielos do you have or had icon tasks plasmoid installed before you begin to upgrade?
[20:40] <danielo> yes
[20:41] <danielo> I was using it for a long time
[20:41] <danielo> :D
[20:41] <sheytan> me too, had problems with deps right now.
[20:41] <sheytan> got to apper, remove plasma icon task
[20:41] <sheytan> agree to install other software
[20:41] <sheytan> after that do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:41] <sheytan> i just did, all went fine, going to reboot :D
[20:41] <sheytan> wish me luc
[20:41] <sheytan> k
[20:42] <danielo> :D
[20:43] <danielo> sheytan give me the feedback
[20:53] <TaiChiMustDo> danielo: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[20:53] <danielo> I've done this
[20:53] <danielo> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:53] <danielo> and now I got:
[20:53] <danielo> Przetwarzanie wyzwalaczy dla install-info...
[20:53] <danielo> Wystąpiły błędy podczas przetwarzania:
[20:53] <danielo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-dataengines-addons_4%3a4.8.0-0ubuntu1~oneiric1~ppa1_i386.deb
[20:53] <danielo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:53] <FloodBotK3> danielo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <BluesKaj> danielo,  what are you trying to upgrade , KDE or the OS to 12.04?
[21:01] <danielo> only kde
[21:04] <domenic> hey guys, i was hoping someone could help me with KMix.  I broke it, uninstalled, and reinstalled it
[21:04] <domenic> It no longer shows per-application volumes
[21:05] <BluesKaj> danielo,  alt+f2  kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d , delete any ppas there , then in the terminal sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-upgrade , afterwards , sudo dist-upgrade
[21:06] <BluesKaj> domenic,  set your volumes in alsamixer in the terminal
[21:08] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get upgrade, danielo , but you probly already fixed that
[21:09] <danielo> should I delete all files?
[21:10] <danielo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816984/
[21:50] <macram> updating to kde-sc 4.8.0
[21:50] <macram> any issues i should notice?
[21:56] <excognac> hi all
[21:56] <excognac> I have some trouble with the update...
[21:56] <excognac> http://paste.kde.org/192824/
[22:01] <excognac> anyone?
[22:04] <excognac> please, it would be very nice if someone could help
[22:05] <excognac> google doesn't
[22:05] <BarkingFish> what is your question ?
[22:05]  * BarkingFish may be a lot of things; Psychic is not one of them :)
[22:06] <excognac> I have a very strange trouble with using sudo apt-get update  gives E: unable to locate. more precisely http://paste.kde.org/192824/
[22:06] <excognac> *install
[22:07] <BarkingFish> I see what you are doing
[22:07] <BarkingFish> When you do upgrade and update - you don't need the word "install" as part of the sudo apt-get command
[22:07] <BarkingFish> it's just sudo apt-get update
[22:08] <BarkingFish> and sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:08] <excognac> ouch
[22:08] <excognac> thanks
[22:08] <BarkingFish> what it thinks you are trying to do is install a package called update
[22:08] <BarkingFish> :)_
[22:08] <excognac> if it would hurt i would scream
[22:09] <BarkingFish> to make it easier, you can use an interface to install packages
[22:09] <excognac> no thanks, I prefer this way
[22:09] <BarkingFish> that's ok :)
[22:10] <BarkingFish> I do some of my stuff on CLI too
[22:10] <BarkingFish> but for packaging and updates, I use apper
[22:10] <BarkingFish> so much easier :D
[22:11] <BarkingFish> anyhow excognac - try those commands as I showed you them, hopefully you should be able to do what you need :)  If you still have problems, you're welcome to pop back and I or someone else will try and fix them
[22:12] <excognac> BarkingFish: thanks again,  it works now properly
[22:21] <RiotingPacifist> my powermanagement plasmoid doesn't suspend take any actions after my laptop has been idle (I can suspend and everything fine though), don't know where to start on this one
[22:29] <aguitel> how restore default setting in kde (kubuntu11.10)
[22:39] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  i got a short question:
[22:39] <howlymowly> my knetworkmanager isn#t wrking at all for the wifi networks i need to access (eduroam, anroid tethering)
[22:40] <howlymowly> so.. I want to use the old nm-applet from gnome.. but can not find it.. any idea?
[22:41] <James147> aguitel: kde settings are stored in ~/.kde ... renaming this folder will restore all kde applications to their defalts
[22:41] <James147> howlymowly: what chipset is your wifi card? (lspci can tell you)
[22:43] <aguitel> James147, ok
[22:43] <howlymowly> James147: i use a broadcom adapter  though I am not able to see it right now in lspci
[22:43] <James147> aguitel: application configs are in ~/.kde/share/config  application data is ~/.kde/share/apps
[22:44] <howlymowly> ahh well   James147  there it is:   06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[22:44] <aguitel> James147, how to make dolphin to read ./folders
[22:44] <James147> aguitel: other setings (autostart for instance) are also stored somewhere in ~/.kde
[22:44] <James147> aguitel: .folders are hidden folders, you can just navagate to them in the address bar, or tell dolphin to show hidden folders (via menus or press alt+.)
[22:45] <James147> howlymowly: have you installed the broadcom drivers? (additional drivers in the menu should beable to do it)
[22:45] <aguitel> James147, i cannot see the menu in dolphin
[22:46] <aguitel> James147, ok i see
[22:46] <James147> aguitel: its on the right of the toolbar
[22:46] <aguitel> James147, thanks
[22:46] <howlymowly> James147: jepp...  It says "this driver is activated and currently in use"
[22:47] <James147> howlymowly: what exactly isnt working about the network widget?
[22:49] <howlymowly> James147: I can not connect to the eduroam network and android tethering over wifi...  the status stays at "configuring interface"
[22:49] <James147> what encryption is the android device using?
[22:49] <howlymowly> i know that tathering works for example, as I can connect to it with another cell phone. I can also connect to eduroam using the exact same settings with my cellphone
[22:50] <howlymowly> James147: I turned encryption off
[22:50] <howlymowly> (just to test why i can not connect to the cellphone, of course)
[22:50] <James147> strange ^^
[22:50] <howlymowly> but it still isn#t working
[22:50] <howlymowly> funny thing is:  if i start using wifiradar it works
[22:51] <howlymowly> but I really donät like wifiradar, as I can not plug in my umts-usb-dongle  and it will automatically connect to the internet
[22:51] <James147> howlymowly: have you tried deleteing and recreating the connections?
[22:52] <howlymowly> James147: hundrets of times :)
[22:53] <James147> howlymowly: could you try connecting from a new user (just to rule out a wacky config)
[22:54] <howlymowly> hold on
[22:54] <howlymowly> hmm..  or James147 I think I need to give up today on this issue
[22:54] <howlymowly> I really got to go to bed :)
[22:54] <James147> :)
[22:55] <howlymowly> sorry mate, but thx for your efforts, anyway
[22:57] <howlymowly> gn8 all
[23:11] <aguitel> James147, what ppa need to add to take the last firefox browser ?
[23:12] <James147> aguitel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[23:14] <aguitel> James147, thanks
[23:29] <aguitel> James147, anyway to install kde 4.8 in 11.10 ?
[23:37] <usertest> anonops
[23:37] <new2net> Has anyone else experienced trouble starting mysqld due to apparmor on 11.04 after installing these recent updates?
[23:48] <jjman6> how can i force uninstall something w/ apt  (it won't let me because of a pkg w/ unmet dependancies needs to be reinstalled but i'm out of HD space so i want to uninstall some pkgs)
[23:49] <new2net> jjman6, maybe make a ramdisk to temporarily store a couple GB?  mount -t tmpfs -o size=2G ramdisk /mnt/ramdisk
[23:50] <jjman6> new2net: what does that achieve. it won't upgrade the broken pkg because there's not enough space and it won't let me uninstall other stuff to free up space on that partition
[23:57] <James147> jjman6: try "sudo apt-get clean"
[23:57] <James147> ^^ it will delete downloaded debs and should give you more space
[23:58] <jjman6> umm only on the partition that the debs are stored which is not /usr
[23:59] <James147> jjman6: its /var
[23:59] <jjman6> right which does me no good.  i need to free space on /usr so it will fix broken dep. on but there's not enough free space on /usr
[23:59] <James147> jjman6: any perticular reason you chose to have a seperate /usr partition?
[23:59] <jjman6> yea because its the wise thing to do