[00:05] <aguitel> i have not nvidia drivers working with last upgrade
[00:06] <urlin2u> aguitel, you have to reload them on upgrades
[00:06] <urlin2u> distro upgrades that is
[00:08] <PatrickC_Away> almost done :) (i think)
[00:08] <PatrickC_Away> just finished setting up locals
[00:11] <aguitel> urlin2u, how reload
[00:13] <aguitel> urlin2u, explain to me
[00:19] <urlin2u> aguitel, look in additional drivers and see if there is one waiting.
[00:21] <urlin2u> aguitel, did you upgrade from oneiric, or just a update-upgrade in precise?
[00:23] <urlin2u> aguitel, you can run this command if you have no driver waiting I believe  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[00:32] <aguitel> urlin2u, this is upgrade in precise and nvidia-current is not working with my card
[00:32] <urlin2u> aguitel, not sure then otherwise sorry.
[00:35] <aguitel> my card is geoforce fx 5500
[00:47] <bjsnider> aguitel, try nvidia-173
[00:49] <aguitel> bjsnider, this is the driver but when iinstalled x crash
[02:14] <Will123456> hey guys. i'm running the 12.04 alpha and only the ... 'default' lens works. all the specific ones (apps/files/music etc.) show nothing - either when i search or not
[02:15] <Will123456> are they broken for everyone or is it just an alpha-ish glitch on my end?
[02:17] <snadge> whats a lens
[02:17] <snadge> oh those other icons in the umm.. dock menu thingy
[02:17] <snadge> yes they work for me.. but i never use them
[02:18] <Will123456> snadge: really? hm, i guess something's broken on my end then. thanks!
[02:18] <Will123456> i wonder if there's a cache or something i can obliterate
[02:18] <snadge> dash.. my bad.. i should be up with the lingo ;)
[02:18] <snadge> yeah.. umm, from experience.. you can delete your entire home directory.. (j/k)
[02:19] <snadge> but theres things in there like .compiz err just have a look
[02:19] <snadge> and also try unity --reset
[02:19] <snadge> when deleting the settings make sure you're logged out of X
[02:19] <Will123456> snadge: i think i'll just take a hammer to my harddrive. :P or try unity --reset - i forgot about that one! thanks :)
[02:19] <snadge> try purging gconf and other things failing that
[02:19] <snadge> and if it still fails.. create another user.. and log in with that
[02:20] <snadge> if that works.. blow away your home directory ;)
[02:20] <Will123456> tried resetting unity, no luck. i'll check .compiz, but it could be something a bit more backend-y
[02:20] <Will123456> (that's a technical term, by the way - i'm not being rude)
[02:21] <Will123456> unity.glib.dbusproxy GlibDBusProxy.cpp:276 Calling method "Search" on object path: "/come/canonical/unity/lens/applications" failed <[02:25] <snadge> hmmm.. something seems busted
[02:25] <snadge> try logging in with a freshly created user
[02:26] <snadge> create a new login... "unityblowsgoats" ;)
[02:26] <snadge> or "goatse"
[02:27] <Will123456> snadge: i'll try a new user, but for now this seems to be my bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/+bug/872219
[02:35] <PatrickC> this isnt good...
[02:35] <PatrickC> when i got home from letting 12.04 install, i have no desktop at all
[02:35] <PatrickC> and i have no close/etc. icons
[02:35] <PatrickC> came home to the command line saying "Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:36] <PatrickC> flashplugin-installer
[02:36] <Will123456> PatrickC: no desktop? does unity 2D work at all?
[02:36] <PatrickC> flashplugin-downloader
[02:36] <PatrickC> Will123456, as in i have no desktop at all
[02:36] <PatrickC> the only thing i see on my screen are the programs that were open before i started the update
[02:36] <PatrickC> no top bar, no unity side bar, no menus on applications
[02:36] <PatrickC> no nothing
[02:37] <PatrickC> lemme take a picture
[02:37] <Will123456> PatrickC: ctrl + alt + backspace might kick you into the login screen so you can choose an alternate desktop for now. other than that you can try running unity --reset
[02:38] <PatrickC> lemme try the ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:38] <Will123456> PatrickC: it will kill all your running programs
[02:38] <PatrickC> i have an irc bouncer
[02:38] <Will123456> PatrickC: i'm not sure what that is, but it sounds impressive :P
[02:39] <PatrickC> lol
[02:39] <PatrickC> it keeps me connected to IRC even when my client dies
[02:39] <urlin2u> crtl-alt-t get you a terminal
[02:39] <PatrickC> i have one open
[02:39] <Will123456> PatrickC: ah okay :P i hope you manage to repair your desktop!
[02:40] <PatrickC> well, unity --reset kinda seemed to maybe work
[02:40] <urlin2u> you run unity --replace
[02:40] <PatrickC> unity --reset brought back unity
[02:40] <PatrickC> how do i check if the distro update went ok?
[02:40] <urlin2u> cool
[02:41] <PatrickC> as it errored out at flashplugin
[02:41] <urlin2u> run the update again is what  I would do to see what is in the terminal
[02:42] <PatrickC> ok
[02:43] <PatrickC> http://flickr.com/gp/60166159@N06/3fFF34
[02:43] <PatrickC> thats what happened to the desktop
[02:43] <PatrickC> well, it completed successfully
[02:44] <PatrickC> (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)
[02:44] <Will123456> looks like compiz is dead. did unity --replace not work?
[02:44] <PatrickC> unity --reset did
[02:44] <urlin2u> looks like a compiz problem it gas a poor refresh rate unity right, I have the fusion icon on the desktop to re;oad it
[02:44] <urlin2u> reload
[02:44] <PatrickC> im installing cinnamon though.. so i wont have to deal with unity anymore :P
[02:45] <PatrickC> should i do a unity --reload?
[02:45] <PatrickC> after the unity --reset
[02:45] <Will123456> PatrickC: if it happens again, --replace is less invasive. --reset resets all your settings (surprise!) but replace just reloads compiz/unity
[02:45] <urlin2u> generally you can run compiz --replace it is a compiz problem generally
[02:45] <PatrickC> ok cool
[02:46] <PatrickC> is there a place to make sure im on 12.04 now?
[02:46] <PatrickC> or just the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:46] <urlin2u> replace or reset I forget, I just have the icon to do it.
[02:47] <Will123456> PatrickC: lsb_release -a
[02:47] <Will123456> I get "Description: Ubuntu precise (development branch)
[02:48] <PatrickC> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[02:48] <PatrickC> Description:	Ubuntu precise (development branch)
[02:48] <PatrickC> Release:	12.04
[02:48] <PatrickC> Codename:	precise
[02:48] <PatrickC> ok cool
[02:48] <Will123456> snap :P
[02:48] <PatrickC> time to install cinnamon :)
[02:48] <urlin2u> lsb_release -a
[02:48] <urlin2u> doh you got it
[02:49] <Will123456> yeah, take that urlin2u. :P    good luck patrickC :)
[02:49] <PatrickC> Will123456, thanks :)
[02:49] <urlin2u> ;
[02:49] <urlin2u> 0
[02:49] <urlin2u> ;
[02:49] <urlin2u> ;
[02:49] <urlin2u> :D
[02:56] <Will123456> snadge: guest session works fine, so it's probably my user account causing the problems
[03:00] <PatrickC> hmm... how do I select a different desktop on 12.04?
[03:01] <Will123456> PatrickC: from the login menu
[03:01] <PatrickC> I found it :)
[03:01] <PatrickC> didn't see the cog for settings
[03:01] <Will123456> yeah it doesn't always seem to appear for me unless i switch user accounts in the list
[03:02] <Will123456> see you!
[03:03] <PatrickC> uh oh
[03:03] <PatrickC> I think I might have broke my wireless...
[03:04] <urlin2u> PatrickC, broadcom?
[03:05] <PatrickC> not sure
[03:05] <PatrickC> I have a phone which runs linux (as its underlying OS) and connected via USB tether easily
[03:05] <PatrickC> can debug more now :)
[03:06] <urlin2u> lspci | grep -i wireless
[03:06] <PatrickC> got nothing from taht
[03:06] <urlin2u> ah your using the phone.
[03:06] <urlin2u> you're
[03:06] <PatrickC> as the internet, yeah :)
[03:06] <urlin2u> not sure there.
[03:06] <PatrickC> it has an option to USB tether
[03:07] <PatrickC> (via homebrew)
[03:07] <PatrickC> lemme disconnect from it and run that again
[03:07] <PatrickC> well, actually, wireless should still be on.. hmm
[03:10] <PatrickC> hmm.. got wireless back up
[03:10] <urlin2u> cool
[03:10] <PatrickC> but it won't connect to my router
[03:11] <urlin2u> what does that command show?
[03:11] <PatrickC> still... nothing.....?
[03:11] <urlin2u> hmm not my area really never had problems so I know nothing.
[03:11] <Will123456> fixed. turns out zeitgeist was acting up, so nuking my .local/zeitgeist directory and then logging back in fixed everything
[03:12] <PatrickC> now it connected
[03:12] <PatrickC> weird
[03:12] <PatrickC> howdy Will123456
[03:12] <urlin2u> it is the beast grab the holy water. :D
[03:13] <PatrickC> lol
[03:20] <Will123456> PatrickC: arent't you glad i picked such a snappy and convenient username
[03:20] <PatrickC> tab complete FTW ;)
[03:21] <Will123456> PatrickC: woah! i had no idea that existed. thanks :P
[03:21] <PatrickC> haha
[03:41] <PatrickC> hmm. can i run HUD and cinnamon? :)
[03:50] <jokerdino> Noooooooooo
[03:51] <PatrickC> bah.. stupid Adobe Air
[05:00] <navatwo> Hey, so I accidentally upgraded.. now I don't appear to have nVidia drivers and can not load the regular interface. Any help?
[05:05] <Essobi> and he's gone
[05:06] <urlin2u> I gave them a nomodeset in #ubuntu we will see just how savvy they are, lol
[05:09]  * PatrickC is really liking Cinnamon
[06:12] <Fudge> does this error make sense to anybody? tried to use apport to file a bug on mangler http://paste.ubuntu.com/816162/
[06:43] <Fudge> anyone know if xubuntu precise is usable with gnome-orca yet
[09:02] <nord> if i'm getting "ERROR: device-mapper target type "mirror" is not in the kernel, when booting alternate on a intel fakeraid system, then it surely must be something iffy with the kernel settings on the boot CD? fedora 16 works right out  of the box, while I had the same problem with 11.10...
[09:20] <bazhang> !info audacious
[09:35] <htorque> jo-erlend: hi! about bug 921276 - do you use the xorg-edgers ppa by any chance?
[09:35] <htorque> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/921276
[09:36] <htorque> !info audacious
[09:36] <htorque> hm, ubottu dead.
[09:57] <jo-erlend> htorque, no.
[09:57] <htorque> too bad
[09:58] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/precise/alpha1
[09:58] <bazhang> z3r0c007, ^
[09:59] <z3r0c007> bazhang, thanks
[09:59] <bazhang> np
[10:00] <bazhang> you have to search for the PPA z3r0c007 and as with all PPA it is not supported should things go wrong
[10:01] <z3r0c007> bazhang, what's the update of the latest 12.04, lots of bugs or whats
[10:01] <bazhang> z3r0c007, its still in the alpha stages, so...
[10:02] <z3r0c007> bazhang, i have the PPA right now, i'm just wondering if i'm going to install the alpha version or i going to wait the final version of 12.04
[10:03] <bazhang> z3r0c007, I'd wait, as it's some months off, unless you wish to do some bug fixing/reporting
[10:05] <z3r0c007> bazhang, i'm just fixing some bugs / reporting of 11.10 ubuntu because ubuntu is the best desktop OS and server
[10:06] <bazhang> ok
[10:26] <MechanisM> hello. just after updates I'm unable to login in ubuntu. smth wrong with video drivers i think
[10:28] <MechanisM> I can't get root with networking to reinstall drivers or update system as well as I'm unable to see console or even recovery mode can't do anything
[10:28] <MechanisM> trying to chroot from livecd now and fix it
[12:02] <aguitel>  i have Geoforce fx 5500 (working only with nvidia-173) and with upgrade from today x are not running
[12:45] <aguitel> anyway to install nvidia-173 in 12.04 ?
[13:00] <aguitel> anyway to install nvidia-173 in 12.04 ?
[13:02] <zniavre> the kernel is updated to 3.3 ?
[13:02] <Pici> 3.2 currently.
[13:10] <zniavre> ok
[13:11] <zniavre> thank you
[13:14] <aguitel> anyone know how install nvidia-173 in 12.04 ?
[14:10] <aguitel> anyone know how install nvidia-173 in 12.04 ?
[14:12] <iceroot> aguitel: is 173 in the repos?
[14:12] <aguitel> iceroot, yes
[14:13] <iceroot> aguitel: so what is the problem when installing it?
[14:13] <aguitel> iceroot, but conflict are with xorg version
[14:13] <iceroot> aguitel: what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:14] <iceroot> !paste | aguitel
[14:15] <aguitel> iceroot, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/540505/
[14:15] <iceroot> aguitel: why deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-proposed main restricted universe multiverse ?
[14:16] <iceroot> aguitel: that will normally break a lot
[14:16] <iceroot> aguitel: and i guess nvidia or xorg from your system is installed from proposed
[14:17] <iceroot> its only a good idea to enable proposed if you want to test some bugfixes which are not yet in the main-repo
[14:17] <iceroot> i mean 12.04 is unstable but with proposed its even more unstable
[14:17] <aguitel> iceroot, you say to erase all proposed lines?
[14:18] <iceroot> aguitel: if you dont know what proposed is, yes
[14:22] <aguitel> iceroot, new is:http://paste.pocoo.org/show/540509/
[14:22] <iceroot> aguitel: sudo apt-get update
[14:23] <aguitel> iceroot, and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:23] <iceroot> aguitel: yes
[14:23] <iceroot> aguitel: if that fails you already have proposed stuff installed
[14:24] <aguitel> iceroot, not fail
[14:24] <aguitel> iceroot, just making upgrade
[14:27] <coz_> hey guys,  should I do the current updates?  any issues?
[14:28] <coz_> I dont see much in the list of updates that may cause serious issues  but wanted to check first
[14:28] <iceroot> coz_: you are using a notebook with touchpad?
[14:29] <coz_> iceroot,  no desktop
[14:29] <coz_> rather I am using a desktop,,
[14:29] <iceroot> coz_: then i cant report a show-stopper
[14:29] <coz_> iceroot,  excellent :) thanks
[14:30] <iceroot> coz_: but i am not on unity :)
[14:30] <coz_> iceroot,  ah ok...gnome3?
[14:30] <iceroot> lxde
[14:31] <coz_> iceroot,  ok cool,  I have not seen the current version of lxde,,,  I dont think it support dual monitors yet
[14:32] <iceroot> coz_: of course it does :)
[14:32] <coz_> iceroot,  oh?  last I used it it did not
[14:33] <iceroot> coz_: started lxde with 10.10 and it was fine with that setup
[14:33] <coz_> iceroot,  mm  isnt the window manager  pcman  somthing?
[14:34] <coz_> I admit it has been about a year since I used it last
[14:34] <iceroot> openbox
[14:34] <iceroot> pcmanfm is the filemanager
[14:35] <coz_> iceroot,  last I used it, although I could impliment a dual monitor set up , it would fall back to gnome libraries for that,,, I dont recall the conversation with the developers  about
[14:36] <iceroot> there are still gnome-libs in use
[14:38] <iceroot> coz_: there is a nice tool now for dualview
[14:38] <iceroot> in lubuntu
[14:38] <coz_> iceroot,  ecellent,, I will have to try it out then
[14:38] <iceroot> coz_: its worth looking at it (imo)
[14:39] <coz_>  iceroot  yeah ,,  I will try it again , thanks
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:44] <coz_> BluesKaj,  hey guy :)
[14:44] <BluesKaj> hi  coz_
[14:44] <coz_> BluesKaj,  anything new on the KDE front?
[14:46] <BluesKaj> not so far , afaik
[14:46] <BluesKaj> still on 4.8
[14:46] <coz_> BluesKaj,  ok cool, I intend to install current kde on 12.04  somethime this week
[14:47] <BluesKaj> well , if you did am upgrade to 12.04 , kde 4.8 should be default
[14:47] <coz_> BluesKaj,  no I did clean install
[14:48] <BluesKaj> even more so ...you didn't get 4.8 with the install ?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> must be an older 12,04
[14:49] <coz_> BluesKaj,  ah.... actually I didnt even check "(  doing dist-upgrade right now  will check when finished
[14:49] <coz_> BluesKaj,  I used the daily build  may have been a few days or one week old
[14:49] <BluesKaj> coz_,  then you should have 4.8
[14:50] <BluesKaj> 4.7.79 to be precise :)
[14:50] <coz_> BluesKaj,  ok will check it out then  ,, thanks :)
[15:06] <ikonia> BluesKaj: did you see riddles call for 4.8 testing ?
[15:06] <coz_> I might like test that but I would wait for BluesKaj   report on it :)
[15:07] <BluesKaj> ikonia,  no I did not
[15:07] <ikonia> BluesKaj: give riddle a ping
[15:07] <ikonia> it was in #kubuntu
[15:08] <ikonia> BluesKaj: worth maybe trying to get involved
[15:08] <BluesKaj> I just joined 30 mns ago so....
[15:08] <ikonia> it's not in my buffer sadly, but contact riddle
[15:10] <BluesKaj> just to be clear , you mean Riddell , right
[15:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:10] <bazhang> yep
[15:10] <bazhang> Riddell
[15:10] <ikonia> oops, yes sorry
[15:15] <aguitel> anyone know how install nvidia-173 in 12.04 ?
[15:16] <bazhang> !find nvidia-173
[15:16] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install nvidia-173
[15:18] <aguitel> bazhang, nvidia-173 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable
[15:19] <aguitel> bazhang, Recommends: nvidia-settings but it is not going to be installed
[15:19] <aguitel> bazhang, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[15:19] <aguitel> bazhang, but i see no broken package i have
[15:20] <bazhang> aguitel, tried to fix the broken packages yet?
[15:20] <aguitel> bazhang, no broken i found
[15:20] <bazhang> aguitel, how did you check
[15:20] <aguitel> bazhang, in synaptic
[15:20] <aguitel> status
[15:21] <aguitel> bazhang, in custom filters
[15:21] <aguitel> no broken
[15:21] <bazhang> aguitel, sounds like a bug then; have you filed them before
[15:22] <aguitel> bazhang, it occours yesterday with daily upgrade i make in precise
[16:12] <PatrickC> http://flic.kr/p/biqB3T hmm.. cinnamon seemed to crash
[16:12] <PatrickC> http://flic.kr/p/biqB3T hmm.. cinnamon seemed to crash
[16:13] <PatrickC> (sorry if thats a double post, nickserv said i wasnt identified)
[16:15] <jo-erlend> what's the status of  Ubiquity these days? Should I expect it to work? I thought I'd give my computer an early spring cleaning. :)
[16:15] <jo-erlend> it was a double post, but the channel doesn't seem to be too active anyway :)
[16:15] <PatrickC> lol
[16:16] <PatrickC> just wondering why cinnamon looks this way.. i dont have the icon in the upper lefthand corner and the icons on the bottom are huge
[16:16] <jo-erlend> we have cinnamon in Precise now?
[16:16] <PatrickC> i installed it with the PPA
[16:17] <PatrickC> but it works fine for me (except for this little hiccup :))
[16:17] <jo-erlend> oh, ok. You're adventurous then. An unstable software in a development OS :)
[16:17] <PatrickC> yep :)
[16:17] <PatrickC> Ubuntu is my "second" OS
[16:17] <PatrickC> windows is still my main
[16:17]  * PatrickC hides
[16:18] <PatrickC> brb switching back to unity :/
[16:18] <jo-erlend> nothing wrong with that. In a perfect world, Ubuntu would solve all your problems making Windows obsolete and unnecessary, but the main thing is that you get your stuff done. :)
[16:18] <PatrickC> yep ":)
[16:18] <PatrickC> :)*
[16:19] <jo-erlend> methinks I shall give Ubiquity a go and see how well it works.
[16:20] <PatrickC> whats that?
[16:20]  * PatrickC just switched back to classic.. ahh :)
[16:21] <jo-erlend> graphical installer from the live cd/usb session.
[16:21] <PatrickC> ah
[16:21] <PatrickC> i just did a straight distro update
[16:21] <PatrickC> one of the things i like about ubuntu. did a distro update and didnt have to reboot!! :D
[16:21] <jo-erlend> Gnome Panel is quite nice. I think it's still missing indicator support. I hope that gets fixed before release.
[16:21] <jo-erlend> :)
[16:22] <PatrickC> in my opinion, this alpha build is as nice as most production windows builds
[16:22] <jo-erlend> you do in order for everything to be used though...
[16:22] <jo-erlend> hehe
[16:22] <jo-erlend> yes, this cycle is very nice.
[16:22] <jo-erlend> it's probably more stable than the beta for 11.10.
[16:23] <PatrickC> now, if only we could get major companies like Trillian on board to make their apps compatible with Ubuntu without the need for wine :)
[16:23] <zniavre> jo-erlend,  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/indicator-applet-ported-to-gnome-3-can.html
[16:24] <jo-erlend> zniavre, yes, I have it installed, but it's not included in the distro, I think.
[16:24] <zniavre> no it s not
[16:24] <zniavre> sorry for misunderstanding
[16:25] <jo-erlend> I would also like for the super+alt keypress necessity to be patched away for Ubuntu. We don't need to make it look and feel like Gnome Shell. We should aim at making it feel as close as Gnome Panel in 10.04, I think.
[16:25] <zniavre> what does super/alt ?
[16:26] <PatrickC> http://flic.kr/p/biqY3c why would adobe air be giving me this message when gnome-keyring is installed?
[16:26] <jo-erlend> In Gnome Panel 3, you have to press super+alt and right-click to access the menus in order to add applets, move them around, etc.
[16:27] <jo-erlend> PatrickC, this is pure speculation, but it is possible that it was made for the old version of the keyring. The format has changed in Gnome 3 if I recall correctly.
[16:27] <PatrickC> where is the super button? i dont see the Superman S on my kb :P
[16:27] <PatrickC> ah
[16:27] <PatrickC> maybe.. now to figure out how to get around that... hmm..
[16:27] <jo-erlend> super is the key that causes your Ubuntu keyboard to advertise for Windows. :)
[16:28] <jo-erlend> PatrickC, it would be _very_ difficult. You'd have to either patch AIR or the keyring, I believe.
[16:28] <jo-erlend> but as I said, that's pure speculation. I don't _know_ that this is the case.
[16:28] <PatrickC> might as well try and update air
[16:28] <jo-erlend> try searching for "Adobe AIR Gnome 3" or something.
[16:28] <PatrickC> how do i launch the system update? lol
[16:29] <jo-erlend> right.
[16:29] <PatrickC> cant find the icon :P4
[16:29] <PatrickC> :P *
[16:29] <jo-erlend> PatrickC, it's called "update manager". You can launch it by pressing super and entering "up".
[16:29] <jo-erlend> it'll likely be the first hit.
[16:29] <PatrickC> i love linux command linke
[16:29] <PatrickC> line*
[16:29] <PatrickC> (i cant type today lol)
[16:30] <PatrickC> update-manager launched it
[16:30] <jo-erlend> right.
[16:30] <jo-erlend> I don't think AIR is in the repos though?
[16:30] <PatrickC> not sure
[16:30] <PatrickC> i forget how i installed it to tell you the truth :)
[16:30] <jo-erlend> it's not.
[16:30] <jo-erlend> and if I recall correctly, Adobe dropped AIR support for Linux a while back.
[16:31] <PatrickC> yeah, which is the sad thing
[16:31] <PatrickC> as a lot of the programs i run need Air
[16:31] <jo-erlend> I've used it all of five minutes myself, and that was a year ago, so I'm not sure.
[16:32] <PatrickC> a client i use for a blog that i work for uses something called Hipchat and they have a desktop app, but its in AIR :/
[16:34] <jo-erlend> that's what VirtualBox is for, no? :)
[16:34] <PatrickC> heh.. dont have a windows install CD :)
[16:34] <PatrickC> and i have windows on the main partition :P
[16:35] <jo-erlend> unless it's Windows XP, I think you can convert it.
[16:35] <jo-erlend> well... You can convert XP as well, but that takes a weekend. :)
[16:42] <lupzz> there will be a wayland preview in precise?
[16:45] <PatrickC> jo-erlend, sorry, was AFK
[16:45] <PatrickC> meh, ill just use windows as my main for now still
[16:47] <jo-erlend> lupzz, we have wayland-demos. Seems to be the same version as in 11.10.
[16:49] <PatrickC> tweetdeck doesnt support ubuntu anymore? :S
[16:49] <jo-erlend> lupzz, this is a very conservative release. I would expect things like that to be held until 12.10 or something. I'm looking forward to it myself. That and btrfs.
[16:49] <jo-erlend> PatrickC, why do you say that?
[16:50] <PatrickC> cause they dont have it as supported on their website
[16:50] <jo-erlend> oh, ok.
[16:51] <jo-erlend> off to play  my guitar for 24 minutes until the daily image is downloaded :>
[16:52] <PatrickC> that short to download?
[16:52] <PatrickC> lucky lol
[16:56] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[16:56] <Ian_Corne> i don't see files on my desktyop anymore
[16:57] <jo-erlend> Ian_Corne, since..?
[16:57] <Ian_Corne> eurm
[16:57] <Ian_Corne> i normaly don't look at my desktop :p
[16:57] <Ian_Corne> so i have no idea
[16:58] <jo-erlend> :)
[16:59] <jo-erlend> there are some changes I don't like in Nautilus. For instance, the desktop folder is hidden from your home directory even if the folder isn't hidden. I think that's a bad thing to do with no config option.
[17:01] <Ian_Corne> I still see it in my home folder
[17:03] <jo-erlend> you do?
[17:03] <jo-erlend> heh.. So do I now. Only a couple of days ago, I didn't. :)
[17:05] <Ian_Corne> D
[17:05] <Ian_Corne> an error ?
[17:07] <jo-erlend> probably.
[17:08] <jo-erlend> it annoyed me for about five minutes and then I moved onto something else to annoy me. :)
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> :D
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> I wouldn't really care about my desktop
[17:10] <PatrickC> im a mobile developer. computers are always annoying me with their stupid non-helpful error codes haha
[17:12] <lupzz> jo-erlend, thanks.
[17:28] <imnichol> Yesterday I started experiencing something when I use two-finger scrolling on my trackpad, the window that currently has focus will jump up several lines
[17:29] <imnichol> Anyone else seeing that?  I'm using an HP elitebook 8460
[17:33] <jo-erlend> bbl
[17:57] <BluesKaj> no luck with kmail setup , ISP email account not recognized due akonadi not responding quickly enough and the email server request times out ...tried different approaches but it's no use to me any . direct access with a web browser works for me . akonadi is defintely the encumberance there in my situation , and that terrible kwalletmanager contantly intereferes because my settings there won't stick.
[17:58] <BluesKaj> oops , wrong channel :)
[18:09] <jtaylor> yey I get an immediate logout when I start vlc or mplayer :/
[18:10] <Ian_Corne> jtaylor: not logout, x crash
[18:10] <Ian_Corne> :p
[18:32] <jtaylor> lucky my system is not screwed up, was updating with eatmydata at the moment :)
[18:32] <jtaylor> thougs could have gone very wrong
[18:37] <pooltable> look for ubuntu 12.04 with hud for testing or add hud for testing now ???
[18:47] <trism> pooltable: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/01/testing-hud-heads-up-display.html
[20:17] <ryan__> Hello. Is there a way to force down the ubuntu-wallpapers version?
[20:28] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[20:41] <iceroot> HUD looks really good and usefull. hope its also available for other desktops instead on unity/gnome only
[22:16] <balloons> is there a u+1 team in launchpad?
[23:41] <FernandoMiguel> guys, nite... have to sleep. job interview tomorrow morning