[06:22] <smp4488> so im trying to CC an arm kernel, http://pastebin.com/r9Ej93GH
[09:27] <brendand> is it known that the pandaboard is droppping wireless a lot with precise?
[09:42] <brendand> how do i get my package to build for armhf?
[09:48] <xranby> TheMuso: hi, I am testing your fix to make openjdk swing applications work in combination with at-spi. I plan to send the patch upstream to icedtea to make the AtkWrapper the default for all distro openjdk builds.
[09:52] <xranby> TheMuso: all in all, I can get accessibility to work under precise by using the AtkWrapper.
[09:52] <xranby> TheMuso: i still have some problems getting the atk-wrapper to work under oneiric
[11:44] <entropia_> Hi, I was trying to boot ubuntu 10.10 on my BB-xm. Keyboard, mouse and moniotr are connected to the board and the board itself is connected with my pc. After inserting the microsd with U10.10 I have a typical output in my console, ending with Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. After this, I can't do anything, also the screen remains dark. Is there anything I can do to make it work?
[11:44] <ogra_> use a newer release
[11:45] <ogra_> might well be that your board revision wasnt supported by 10.10 yet
[11:46] <ogra_> we often have the case that TI releases HW right around or right after an ubuntu release ... generally you should take the latest release, thats most likely to have all support for your HW
[11:46] <entropia_> Oh, ok. Thank you.
[12:00] <rbasak> NCommander, when you see this, what the plan with bug 921137? Do we need another bug for the default to be fixed so that netinstall works again? I use it for my dev multiple times a day and without an automated workaround I'm getting really slowed down
[12:00] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 921137 in flash-kernel "Flash-kernel-installer doesn't support d-i debian-installer/add-kernel-opts in preseed " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921137
[12:57] <ogra_> bug 540645
[12:57] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 540645 in plymouth "no fsck messages shown in details mode (no splash on cmdline)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540645
[13:12] <sebjan> ppisati: it appears we are missing cpu_freq into the precise kernel config (ti-omap4 branch)
[13:22] <brendand> ogra_ - ping
[13:29] <ogra_> brendand, hi
[13:33] <ppisati> sebjan: right, any preference for the governor?
[13:33] <ogra_> sebjan, i think the x86 kernels were moved to cpuidle insted of cpufreq, seems that was carried into the arm kernels
[13:34] <ogra_> (by accident i guess)
[13:35] <ppisati> actually they are trying to move arm to cpuidle too
[13:35] <ppisati> but it's no ready yet
[13:36] <ogra_> right, so we should keep whats working in the distro kernel and leave the crack bits to linaro ;)
[13:36] <ppisati> agree
[13:38] <sebjan> ppisati: by default we can select performance. user space will enforce ondemand after a while
[13:38] <ogra_> right, we have an upstart job for that
[13:38] <sebjan> yep
[13:40] <sebjan> ppisati: we also miss some flags for enabling the kernel thermal management
[13:41] <brendand> ogra_ - is there anything specific we need to do to make a package build for armhf?
[13:41] <sebjan> we need the changes in this commit: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9b8185d6ebb87e4beacd0874dc50a8eca8c39e9
[13:41] <ppisati> let me see
[13:41] <ogra_> brendand, the debain/control file should have armhf in it if its not "any" and lists things like armel separately, beyond that it should just build
[13:42] <ogra_> all "any" packages usually do
[13:42] <brendand> ogra_ - ours has 'all' (same thing?)
[13:43] <ogra_> well, no, "all" is usually only built on x86 adn copied over since defining "all" means there arent any arch specific bits in it at all
[13:43] <ogra_> at least thats how it is done in the archive, i think PPAs work a bit different, not sure though
[13:44] <brendand> heh, well i was wrong. it is 'any'
[13:44] <ogra_> ah, k
[13:44] <ogra_> then it should just build
[13:44] <brendand> ogra_ - maybe we need to build again. is armhf builds a recent introduction?
[13:45] <ogra_> we have the arch since two months or so
[13:45] <ppisati> sebjan: OMAP_DIE_GOVERNOR seems doesn't exist in our tree
[13:45] <ogra_> what package is that ?
[13:45]  * sebjan looks
[13:46] <ppisati> sebjan: neither OMAP_THERMAL
[13:46] <sebjan> ppisati: you have both, but they depend on disabled flags
[13:47] <sebjan> (thermal_framework?)
[13:47] <ppisati> sebjan: right
[13:47] <ppisati> saw it just now
[13:47] <brendand> ogra_ - this is a PPA by the way. maybe some change needs to be made to the PPA?
[13:47] <brendand> i'm just guessing
[13:48] <ogra_> brendand, oh, indeed, you need to file an RT to get armhf enabled (if your PPA already has armel thats quick and easy)
[13:48] <brendand> ogra_ - an RT? ok - but how would you do it as a non-canonical person?
[13:49] <brendand> (i am, so this point is moot, but...)
[13:49] <ogra_> brendand, we dont allow non canonical people to use arm PPAs yet (security issues that will be solved soon)
[13:50] <brendand> ogra_ - i see
[13:50] <ogra_> so this only works for private PPAs atm
[13:50] <ogra_> of teams that have only canonical people in them indeed
[14:16] <reisei> hi, all. How can I setup dvi as a default screen? I use ubuntu-oneiric (only kernel, btw, but it doesn't matter)
[14:19] <ppisati> sebjan: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-precise.git;a=commit;h=cd3338daa84b6d891f4d9812b2f545e664b5fa97
[14:19] <ppisati> sebjan: and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-precise.git;a=commit;h=9beb67b9255a6c7e47a8c12f46f76ad3f74d98a0
[14:19] <ppisati> i'm building a test kernel right now
[14:22] <sebjan> ok cool
[15:01] <ppisati> sebjan: how do i check if the themal/cpu_freq is working well?
[15:03] <sebjan> ppisati: hum, you can try by loading your pandaES a lot, and monitor the cpu frequency
[15:03] <ppisati> sebjan: i don't have a pandaES
[15:03] <sebjan> ppisati: if you can share your .deb, I can git it a try and tell you
[15:03] <ppisati> sebjan: ok
[15:06] <ppisati> sebjan: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.2.0-1404-omap4_3.2.0-1404.6~thermalrevcma_armel.deb
[15:08] <sebjan> ppisati: I'm installing it and will test. I'll let you know then
[15:34] <sebjan> ppisati: ok, I just tested your .deb. The freqs scale well, and the thermal fwk effectively reduces the freq when appropriate. It's good for me!
[15:40] <ppisati> ok
[15:41] <ppisati> thanks for testing
[15:51] <sebjan> np
[16:16] <rbasak> NCommander: ping
[17:12] <rbasak> Gruemaster: ping
[17:14] <ogra_> there he is !
[17:17] <ogra_> GrueMaster, soo by reading the kernel ML it seems like ppisati is already pushing the patch for the kernel fis, no need to mangle your preseed stuff for a new kernel cmdline
[17:17] <ogra_> should be fixed by A2
[17:17] <ogra_> s/fis/fix/
[17:18] <GrueMaster> A2 doesn't help today.  Mangling the preseed is easy and immediate.
[17:18] <ogra_> i'll make sure to drop all mem= args for A2 too
[17:18] <GrueMaster> And easily reversed.
[17:18] <ogra_> sure
[17:19] <GrueMaster> ppisati: What is the fix for the mem= issue?
[17:19] <ogra_> disabling CMA
[17:19] <ogra_> as discussed here last night
[17:20] <GrueMaster> But that will disable a lot more (USB Cameras, etc).
[17:20] <ogra_> i dont think so
[17:21] <ogra_> it should just affect the internal camera interface
[17:21] <GrueMaster> Ok, that means blaze.
[17:22] <ppisati> just the omap4 camera
[17:22] <ppisati> v4l i resent a new pull req
[17:22] <ogra_> and panda ...
[17:22] <ppisati> with some PM stuff in
[17:23] <ogra_> (there is a camera interface on the panda too, not that we make any use of it indeed)
[17:23] <GrueMaster> ok, so this just brings us up to date w/ Ti then I take it?
[17:23] <ppisati> i didn't even know there was a dedicated camera interface
[17:23] <GrueMaster> We don't use the camera interface, but community members do.  I have seen some discussions on the pandaboard mailing list about it.
[17:23] <ogra_> on the socket header
[17:24] <ppisati> GrueMaster: they can move to Q (or install stuff from the ppa_
[17:24] <ogra_> right, and in #pandaboard too
[17:24] <ppisati> at least the kernel
[17:24] <GrueMaster> Ok.
[17:25] <ogra_> if they use the camera they probably also want to accelerate the displaying of the movies they take, so the PPA is needed anyway
[17:28] <GrueMaster> Fair enough.
[17:30] <GrueMaster> rbasak: In my preseed, I added "sed -i 's/splash/fixrtc console=ttyO2,115200 mem=456M@0x80000000 mem=512M@0xA0000000/' /boot/boot.script;flash-kernel;echo 'ledtrig-heartbeat' >>/etc/modules" to the preseed/late_command.  Worked fine (and I also get the blinken(tm) lights back).
[17:31] <S0NiC> hi
[17:31] <GrueMaster> Actually interesting to watch 4 pandas in a stack all blinking in time with daft punk.
[17:31] <S0NiC> hmm can anyone tell me, why ubuntu(11.10) is so slow on my pandaboard?
[17:32] <S0NiC> is there any possibility to enchance speed=?
[17:32] <S0NiC> -c
[17:32] <S0NiC> +d
[17:32] <GrueMaster> S0NiC: Are you running from SD?  That is the main issue.
[17:32] <S0NiC> GrueMaster: yes
[17:32] <GrueMaster> Not much can be done there.
[17:32] <S0NiC> hmm shoot...
[17:33] <GrueMaster> But I see a speed increase of ~6-10x running from USB drive.
[17:33] <S0NiC> hmm maybe deaktivate unity?
[17:33] <ogra_> a lot can be done there .... but it starts with changing the SDHC spec ;)
[17:33] <S0NiC> ogra_: ;D
[17:34] <rbasak> thanks GrueMaster, I'll try that!
[17:36] <GrueMaster> ogra_: What is the plan for armel image builds?  How soon can we start phasing them out?  At least for omap/omap4.
[17:36] <ogra_> we wont
[17:37] <ogra_> but we will stop testing them after FF
[17:38] <GrueMaster> If they are available for milestones, they are tested (or I get constant nagging).  That's why I ask.
[17:38] <ogra_> well, they will still be there for A2
[17:38] <ogra_> but after that they are "community" images and we explicitly wont test them
[17:39] <ogra_> as long as we carry armel in the archive we need to give users an install opportunity, even if its untested
[17:39] <GrueMaster> What's this "we" stuff?  I test all images during milestones (even kubuntu).
[17:39] <ogra_> and armel wont go away before Q
[17:39] <ogra_> it was discussed several times in budapest
[17:40] <S0NiC> is that normal, that i have to wait about 10 seconds till ff starts?
[17:40] <ogra_> "we" as in paid people working on arm stuff
[17:40] <ogra_> S0NiC, on SD thats actually pretty fast ... i have seen things like 30sec in the past
[17:41] <S0NiC> ogra_: ok thx
[17:41] <S0NiC> maybe it speeds up if i choose gnome instead of unity?
[17:41] <GrueMaster> S0NiC: If you want a little boost in performance, try the armhf images for precise.
[17:41] <ogra_> that wont change the speed of your disk access
[17:42] <GrueMaster> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/
[17:42] <GrueMaster> No, but app performance is better.
[17:43] <S0NiC> thx guys... hmm if i open software center i only get a grey window. maybe iam to impatient? ;D
[17:44] <ogra_> it also reads from disk a lot
[17:44] <S0NiC> now i have a touchpannel... i wonder it works out of the box... ;D
[17:44] <S0NiC> but its not realy precisce
[17:45] <S0NiC> -c
[17:47] <S0NiC> maybe i have to high prospects...
[17:54] <S0NiC> hmm reboot
[17:54] <S0NiC> brb
[17:59] <S0NiC> re
[19:34] <jayabharath> Folks do anyone on this channel knows if the Ubuntu Precise Pangolin daily configure the PandaBoard ES to run @ 1.2Ghz?
[19:34] <S0NiC> re
[19:34] <jayabharath> In the 11.10 release it was only configured for 700Mhz.. I dont know if the right patches have been integrated into the Precise Pangolin dailys for ES....
[19:46] <infinity> jayabharath: Upgrading and testing the kernel is a surefire way to find out.
[19:47] <infinity> jayabharath: But, AFAIK, precise fully supports the 4460.
[19:51] <jayabharath> infinity: thx? it used to be supported even in 11.10.. but I was more concerend about speed?
[19:51] <infinity> jayabharath: Hence why I said "fully supported".
[19:52] <infinity> jayabharath: In oneiric, I believe it was artificially limited for thermal reasons, and that's been resolved now.  But I don't have a 4460 here to check.
[19:52] <jayabharath> infinity: Great.. I guess I will give it a spin
[20:18] <S0NiC> hmm did anyone get a touchscreen to work under ubuntu-arm?
[20:19] <S0NiC> iam using ubuntu 11.10 and i have a egalax driver. and it works out of the box. but the finger is not there where the mouse is...
[20:19] <S0NiC> any ideas?