[04:52] <bkerensa> Hi MarkDude
[04:54] <MarkDude> HEy there
[04:54] <MarkDude> Looks like a change of plans
[04:54]  * MarkDude was given advice
[04:55] <MarkDude> advice being decisions were made in private relating to PNW team
[04:55] <MarkDude> This falls under CoC
[04:55] <MarkDude> The Council was surely mistaken
[04:56] <MarkDude> I mean if they are trying to say that NO ONE over two years was able to get presence and CDs ot rep UBuntu at OSCON
[04:56] <MarkDude> that would be surely shortsighted
[04:56] <MarkDude> Well I stepped up for that
[04:56] <MarkDude> Had otheres help
[04:57] <MarkDude> Did so as Oregonian
[04:57]  * MarkDude was NOT member of Cali team
[04:57] <MarkDude> So let me know what channel-
[04:57] <MarkDude> is it the secret channel- or a logged one?
[05:00] <bkerensa> Hmm?
[05:00] <bkerensa> Idk
[05:00] <bkerensa> Its not worth battling over honestly we will just re-apply in 6-8 months like they said
[05:00] <bkerensa> http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/07/31/usa-wide-approved-locos-by-the-end-of-the-year-lets-do-it/
[05:00] <bkerensa> thats a interesting post
[05:01] <bkerensa> that was in 2007 they wanted all locos approved in the U.S. by end of year
[05:01] <bkerensa> but its now years later and somehow not enough history?
[05:02] <MarkDude> Well, I know I dont represnt the team
[05:03] <MarkDude> But I plan to write about this all
[05:03] <MarkDude> Ubuntu was soo busy trying to get on TVs, they could not figure out how to get Ubuntu folks a table at OSCON
[05:04] <MarkDude> Oregon Team got them there
[05:04] <MarkDude> after they had killed PNW
[05:04] <bkerensa> ok well as Team Lead and per Discussion with Nathwill who is Asst. Team Lead we just feel the best thing we can do is give it our all and try again down the road. They asked if we would continue if denied and we told them yes because in the end we dont exist as a loco essentially for peer approval... We exist because we love FOSS and Ubuntu
[05:04] <MarkDude> Dont get me wrong I dont plan on bringing a pissing contest ;)
[05:05] <bkerensa> I told two of the loco council members in private however that I was deeply disappointed by their decision and I pointed out other approvals they have made for teams that may have done less and had limited history and they agreed and said the process needs improvement
[05:05] <MarkDude> Or as I said a while ago
[05:05] <MarkDude> the emperor wears no clothes
[05:05] <bkerensa> I think a blog post on loco approval transparency and clear standards for all loco's might be of interest
[05:05] <bkerensa> :D
[05:05] <MarkDude> And thats not meaning Mark S either
[05:05] <bkerensa> The emperor must get cold
[05:06] <bkerensa> oh I know :)
[05:06] <MarkDude> The process wears no clothes
[05:06] <bkerensa> the community has many emperors :P
[05:06] <MarkDude> The CoC is TP
[05:06] <MarkDude> People assume if its not in there it means free anything
[05:06] <MarkDude> Arbitrary
[05:07] <MarkDude> Its so arbitrary
[05:07] <MarkDude> I am going to put some of this in TOSW book
[05:07] <MarkDude> But remove the Ubuntu name
[05:07] <MarkDude> to protect the innocent, etc
[05:07] <MarkDude> There are a few lessons to be learned here.
[05:08] <MarkDude> But if you guys are ok with being patient and waiting more time than you deserve, I can only honor your wishes
[05:10]  * MarkDude is considering getting F tattoo btw
[05:17] <TRAVISg> hello all
[05:21] <MarkDude> Hey there TRAVISg
[05:24] <bkerensa> hi
[23:19] <TRAVISg> bkerensa you think you could kick down some ubuntu stickers for my laptop? I would love to be promoting it.
[23:20] <TRAVISg> I guess that is really just to any one I need some stickers I wear my 11.10 shirt as much as I can but would love more conversation starters
[23:20] <TRAVISg> I have the official Ubuntu book on hold at the Library too. I am plugging away.
[23:27] <bkerensa> Good Afternoon Oregonians
[23:27] <bkerensa> TRAVISg: Let me check if I have any tomorrow.... I'm actually possibly moving next week so I will be looking through everything :P
[23:28] <bkerensa> If I don't have any I will buy some more and give you a sheet
[23:29] <albrigha> hi hi
[23:34] <bkerensa> hi