| inetpro | fp | 05:35 |
|---|---|---|
| pikkie | hi all | 12:53 |
| inetpro | hmm... netsplit | 16:28 |
| nlsthzn | The internet broke | 16:28 |
| inetpro | yikes | 16:30 |
| inetpro | hi nlsthzn | 16:30 |
| nlsthzn | Hey inetpro :) | 16:30 |
| inetpro | I see the guys are running around with duct tape to fix it | 16:31 |
| superfly | hi inetpro, nlsthzn | 16:35 |
| nlsthzn | Yup was a funny comment from freenode :) | 16:35 |
| nlsthzn | Hi superfly :) | 16:36 |
| Mezenir | well | 16:59 |
| Mezenir | were on the cool side | 16:59 |
| superfly | Mezenir: were on the cool side? Your sentence lacks a subject | 17:10 |
| cocooncrash | Haha. | 17:17 |
| inetpro | hi superfly, Mezenir, cocooncrash, et al | 17:49 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: wb | 17:49 |
| nuvolari | :O | 18:01 |
| nuvolari | is you people okey? | 18:01 |
| nuvolari | oh, cool, cool side | 18:02 |
| nuvolari | et ali ban. | 18:02 |
| nuvolari | :> I fell in love with Gnome 3 again | 18:06 |
| nlsthzn | Interesting time ahead in Ubuntu with Unity being refined and now HUD... | 18:08 |
| nuvolari | nlsthzn: ya, saw that. I don't know if I look forward to it too much | 18:11 |
| inetpro | hi nuvolari | 18:11 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: I agree it looks damn nice | 18:11 |
| nuvolari | it's like CLI for GUI, which doesn't feel right | 18:11 |
| nuvolari | lo inetpro! | 18:11 |
| inetpro | just hope it is as practical as it looks | 18:11 |
| nlsthzn | Tried it out in VBox... still a but too early to tell | 18:12 |
| inetpro | I think it can work | 18:12 |
| nuvolari | hmm, maybe I should find a video, the screenshots maybe gave me the wrong idea | 18:12 |
| nlsthzn | showed the wife as she uses gimp a lot and she really likes the idea... can get lost in those menus :) | 18:12 |
| inetpro | the video is very cool | 18:12 |
| nlsthzn | omgubuntu has the video | 18:13 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: see http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/939 | 18:15 |
| cocooncrash | inetpro: :) | 18:16 |
| inetpro | or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_WW-DHqR3c | 18:16 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: how's the weather up north? | 18:16 |
| cocooncrash | inetpro: Good, nice and cool | 18:17 |
| cocooncrash | Maaz: weather for mountain view, ca | 18:17 |
| Maaz | cocooncrash: In Moffett NAS, California at 9:56 AM PST on January 25, 2012: 12°C; Humidity: 89%; Wind: NNW at 6 km/h; Conditions: Mostly Cloudy; Sunrise/set: 7:16 AM PST/5:24 PM PST; Moonrise/set: 8:23 AM PST/8:18 PM PST | 18:17 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: the only idea that I don't like is that of hiding the entire menu | 18:20 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: always good to see in here | 18:20 |
| nuvolari | oooh! interesting, hud-cli :D | 18:21 |
| nlsthzn | inetpro, well they are all ready hiding it with the global menu... | 18:21 |
| nuvolari | it looks much like zsh-functionality though | 18:21 |
| nlsthzn | I think the cli is more for testing but looks awesome | 18:22 |
| inetpro | Yikes! | 18:23 |
| inetpro | at about 26s into the video they are advertising IE? | 18:23 |
| nlsthzn | ? | 18:23 |
| inetpro | or rather 28 seconds into the video | 18:27 |
| nlsthzn | on youtube? | 18:29 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: yep, that youtube link above | 18:37 |
| nlsthzn | oh ok :) | 18:37 |
| inetpro | check the ad on the OMGubuntu site | 18:38 |
| inetpro | in the video, that is | 18:39 |
| inetpro | wb drussell | 18:49 |
| drussell | inetpro: hey :o) | 18:49 |
| drussell | inetpro: how's things? | 18:49 |
| inetpro | drussell: good and yourself? | 18:56 |
| * inetpro is struggling with internet connectivity this evening | 18:57 | |
| inetpro | rainy weather in Pretoria | 18:57 |
| drussell | inetpro: good too! | 18:57 |
| drussell | inetpro: hehe strangely enough I've been struggling with internet connectivity all day today | 18:57 |
| drussell | inetpro: been manning a stand and running demos @ "Cloud Expo Europe" but the internet access has been awful | 18:58 |
| drussell | inetpro: even 3G was swamped so couldn't rely on phone/data either! | 18:59 |
| inetpro | sounds interesting though | 18:59 |
| drussell | inetpro: yup, not bad, it's my third year running at the event... though previous years I was representing another company ;o) | 18:59 |
| drussell | (ssssshhhh Red Hat sssssshhhhh) ;o) | 18:59 |
| inetpro | drussell: a Canonical stand? | 18:59 |
| inetpro | eish | 19:00 |
| drussell | inetpro: yup Canonical/Ubuntu | 19:00 |
| inetpro | ahh | 19:00 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:00 |
| inetpro | many people around? | 19:00 |
| drussell | inetpro: yeah, quite a few, certainly the busiest so far out of the 3 years | 19:01 |
| inetpro | nice | 19:01 |
| Kilos | hiya superfly et al | 19:04 |
| Kilos | hey nlsthzn you at work? | 19:05 |
| nlsthzn | Hi uncle Kilos ... nope at home for a change :) | 19:05 |
| Kilos | ah thats nice | 19:05 |
| Kilos | hi Guest62405 | 19:05 |
| Guest62405 | Hi | 19:06 |
| Guest62405 | Looking for help on a issue... would this be the place...? | 19:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good evening oom | 19:06 |
| Kilos | ubuntu or linux issues yes Guest62405 | 19:06 |
| Kilos | hi there inetpro hows things | 19:06 |
| inetpro | Guest62405: don't ask to ask, just ask | 19:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good and you? | 19:07 |
| Kilos | good ty my buddy | 19:07 |
| Guest62405 | thanks - I'm trying to create a personal hotspot using laptop & 3G modem, running Unbuntu 11.10 | 19:07 |
| Guest62405 | problem is when I click "use as hotspot" under wireless settings, nothing happens | 19:08 |
| Guest62405 | it creates a hotspot connection under wireless connections, but doesn't connect to anything and isn't picked up by any of my other wireless devices | 19:09 |
| inetpro | Guest62405: hmm... I didn't even know about that option | 19:09 |
| Kilos | hehe Guest62405 just be patient, one of the brains here will help you | 19:09 |
| inetpro | never to old to learn | 19:09 |
| Kilos | i dont even know what a hotspot is | 19:10 |
| Guest62405 | hehehe, thanks! | 19:10 |
| Guest62405 | :-) | 19:10 |
| Kilos | what is it used for Guest62405 | 19:10 |
| Guest62405 | I want to create a local wifi network to connect to the internet through my laptop | 19:11 |
| inetpro | Kilos: it's like creating a wireless router so other machines can connect to the internet via the hotspot | 19:11 |
| Kilos | ah | 19:11 |
| Kilos | without a router? | 19:12 |
| Guest62405 | yup | 19:12 |
| Kilos | how they gonna connect to each other | 19:12 |
| Kilos | cable? | 19:12 |
| Guest62405 | using wireless | 19:12 |
| zeref | Guest62405: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint | 19:12 |
| Kilos | oh i see ty | 19:12 |
| Kilos | hi zeref | 19:12 |
| zeref | hi Kilos | 19:13 |
| Guest62405 | thanks, I'll have a look at the link | 19:13 |
| Kilos | Guest62405, i see you came here via your browser, you can install xchat and make life easier | 19:14 |
| zeref | but Guest62405: in network-manager there is an option to create a new wireless option, did ou use that? | 19:15 |
| Guest62405 | i tried... without success... I'm still a real newbie! | 19:15 |
| Guest62405 | i did fiddle with network manager | 19:15 |
| Guest62405 | but didn't have much luck | 19:16 |
| zeref | hmmm | 19:19 |
| Guest62405 | The link requires me to install server edition - I was hoping for a simpler solution | 19:19 |
| Guest62405 | The net suggests that it should be quite easy | 19:19 |
| Kilos | might this help? | 19:20 |
| Kilos | https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html | 19:20 |
| Kilos | zeref, you in heaven with the lappy as compared to the old pc? | 19:22 |
| Kilos | wb bakuman | 19:32 |
| nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 19:35 |
| nuvolari | naandse :> | 19:35 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, hoe gaan dit seun? | 19:35 |
| nuvolari | gaan goed dankie oom | 19:35 |
| nuvolari | net bietjie warm vanaand | 19:35 |
| Kilos | goed dankie | 19:35 |
| Kilos | baie lekker hier, ons het nou nou n donderstorm gehad | 19:36 |
| nuvolari | dis lekker. Ek soul like van bietjie afkoel hier! | 19:36 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:36 |
| Kilos | dis die "aircon" wat julle so laat sukkel | 19:37 |
| Kilos | lugreeling goeters | 19:37 |
| nuvolari | verseker | 19:38 |
| Kilos | guest, you the same one with wireless probs? | 19:38 |
| nuvolari | maar sonder dit sou ons dooi | 19:39 |
| guest | yup... | 19:39 |
| guest | dankie vir die hulp so ver | 19:39 |
| guest | ek sukkel maar nog aan | 19:39 |
| guest | hierdie goed bietjie bou my kennis | 19:39 |
| Kilos | guest, instaleer xchat en word een van ons ubuntu mense | 19:40 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, wat weet jy van die wireless vpn settings | 19:40 |
| guest | ek het probeer, maar ek sukkel laat die dinge "connect" | 19:40 |
| guest | my settings is seker nie reg nie | 19:41 |
| Kilos | jy moet scroll na freenode toe en dan edit en #ubuntu-za in tik | 19:41 |
| nuvolari | hmm. waai settings gebruik jy guest? | 19:41 |
| nuvolari | ja, luister vir oom Kilos. Wysheid in die grysheid | 19:41 |
| guest | onder servers het ek irc.freenode.net/8001 | 19:42 |
| Kilos | hja dis reg | 19:42 |
| guest | favourite channels #ununtu-za | 19:42 |
| guest | #ubuntu-za | 19:42 |
| Kilos | ja en dan connect | 19:42 |
| guest | Nickname: sommer iets random | 19:42 |
| Kilos | moet hier na toe kmo | 19:43 |
| zeref | Kilos: Lappy is moms, she wanted me to fix stuff, still have pc | 19:43 |
| Kilos | nee man nie sommer enigiets nie jy gaan baie hier kom kuier | 19:43 |
| Kilos | aw | 19:43 |
| guest | *** checking indent | 19:44 |
| Kilos | guest kies n lekker nick | 19:44 |
| guest | *** couldn't look up your hostname | 19:44 |
| Kilos | dit sal deur kom | 19:44 |
| Kilos | my voda maak ook so | 19:44 |
| guest | ek op Cell C | 19:44 |
| Kilos | dit sal werk | 19:44 |
| Kilos | wag net bietjie | 19:45 |
| guest | gee heeltyd selfde fout, sal hom los laat hy aangaan | 19:45 |
| Kilos | watse fout? | 19:45 |
| guest | *** couldn't look up your hostname | 19:45 |
| guest | dan disconnect hy weer | 19:45 |
| Kilos | dit maak nie saak nie dit sal deaur kom | 19:46 |
| Kilos | myne gaan verby dit | 19:46 |
| inetpro | guest: favourite channels #ubuntu-za nie #ununtu-za | 19:46 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:46 |
| Kilos | ha ha welkom piet | 19:46 |
| inetpro | welkom PietPompies | 19:46 |
| PietPompies | awesome, daar gaan hy deur | 19:47 |
| Kilos | dit vat party keer n rukkie | 19:47 |
| PietPompies | Beter as guest neem ek aan! | 19:47 |
| Kilos | ja so bietjie | 19:47 |
| Kilos | jou nick is nick? | 19:47 |
| Kilos | you an engelsman that goois the taal | 19:48 |
| PietPompies | Yup, I throws it far | 19:49 |
| PietPompies | Engelse ouers, Afrikaans skool | 19:50 |
| PietPompies | 100% baster | 19:50 |
| Kilos | ok now we just need someone to give you the vpn settings for network manager | 19:50 |
| Kilos | where are you PietPompies | 19:50 |
| PietPompies | Century City | 19:50 |
| PietPompies | in Cape Town | 19:50 |
| Kilos | where is that? | 19:50 |
| Kilos | ah | 19:51 |
| PietPompies | yourself? | 19:51 |
| Kilos | there are lotsa ubuntu peeps in capetown area | 19:51 |
| Kilos | ptown | 19:51 |
| Kilos | Pta | 19:51 |
| PietPompies | I was initially on a CT IRC, but it was dead | 19:51 |
| Kilos | yeah we all use freenode | 19:51 |
| PietPompies | ah, ek weet net dis die wereld van blou bloed | 19:51 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:52 |
| PietPompies | never been there | 19:52 |
| PietPompies | I don't think 11.10 has network manager (?) | 19:52 |
| PietPompies | It's got network and "network connections" | 19:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro, have you any idea what the vpn settings are for wireless in vpn in nm | 19:53 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:53 |
| Kilos | doesnt it come up in your top panel | 19:53 |
| inetpro | sorry, was busy with other stuffs | 19:53 |
| Kilos | np | 19:53 |
| inetpro | no man, why setup any vpn seetings? | 19:53 |
| Kilos | he wants to use wireless inetpro | 19:54 |
| PietPompies | the guides just tell you to open "networks" and select "Use as Hotspot" | 19:54 |
| inetpro | should be as easy as, connect with USB to internet and then press "Use as Hotspot" | 19:54 |
| PietPompies | as I mentioned, this creates a new connection under wireless connections, but nothing further happens | 19:54 |
| Kilos | maybe it isnt seeing a wireless connection | 19:55 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: why are you tryng to create the hotspot, do you have something else that also needs a web connection? | 19:55 |
| PietPompies | Yes, I want to connect my iphone and ipad through the 3G connection | 19:56 |
| PietPompies | I don't have adsl | 19:56 |
| PietPompies | some am trying to share the connection with all my other devices in the house | 19:56 |
| Tonberry | there is an ap mode gui? | 19:56 |
| PietPompies | *so | 19:56 |
| inetpro | have you tried scanning for a wireless network on these devices after having pressed "Use as Hotspot" on Ubuntu? | 19:56 |
| PietPompies | yes, it doesn't pick anything up | 19:57 |
| PietPompies | when I click "use as hotspot", the "configure" button doesn't become active either | 19:57 |
| inetpro | I haven't tried it yet., so unfortunately can't help much | 19:57 |
| Kilos | then there isnt one in the area? | 19:57 |
| inetpro | perhaps some settings needed | 19:57 |
| Kilos | the fone should see if there is one in the area but you need pin numbers for them i think | 19:58 |
| PietPompies | it is a bit of a strange one - I didn't see anyone else having such a problem on the forums | 19:58 |
| PietPompies | yes, thats why I want to create my own | 19:58 |
| PietPompies | also safer for banking, etc | 19:58 |
| Kilos | if there isnt a wireless tower in your area you wont get anything | 19:59 |
| Kilos | you need to get a signal from one first | 20:00 |
| Tonberry | not all wifi cards can be used as hotspots | 20:00 |
| PietPompies | thanks Tonberry - that may be my problem then | 20:00 |
| Kilos | maybe | 20:01 |
| Kilos | maybe try contact the wug in that area | 20:01 |
| Kilos | they should tell you if there is coverage where you are | 20:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nee | 20:02 |
| Kilos | o? | 20:02 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the hotspot will be created on his Ubuntu machine | 20:02 |
| inetpro | his ubuntu machine will thus act as a wireless router | 20:02 |
| PietPompies | exactly | 20:03 |
| Kilos | yeah but if it cant see a wireless tower anywhere how can it connect to the internet | 20:03 |
| PietPompies | or that was the plan... | 20:03 |
| inetpro | nee | 20:03 |
| Kilos | am i missing something | 20:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no wireless towers involved here | 20:03 |
| Tonberry | 3g in wifi out | 20:03 |
| PietPompies | connect to internet using 3G data stick | 20:03 |
| Kilos | aha | 20:03 |
| PietPompies | then use pc as a hotspot | 20:04 |
| PietPompies | for my other devices | 20:04 |
| inetpro | Kilos: except for the USB connecting to a 3G wireless tower | 20:04 |
| Kilos | do the devices see the pc? | 20:04 |
| Kilos | maybe the wireless card isnt activated | 20:04 |
| PietPompies | not under wireless | 20:04 |
| PietPompies | let me quickly check bluetooth | 20:05 |
| Kilos | bt is fast i got 3m/s here | 20:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: a wifi access point (or hotspot) has a range of about 20 meters | 20:05 |
| Kilos | ah | 20:05 |
| Kilos | bt is less | 20:06 |
| PietPompies | I think I'm trying to do something that I don't properly understand... | 20:06 |
| Kilos | thats how you learn | 20:06 |
| PietPompies | but dammit its frustrating! | 20:06 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: what laptop do you have? | 20:07 |
| PietPompies | toshiba satellite L300 | 20:07 |
| PietPompies | also got a lenovo running windows 7 Starter, which microsoft disabled the hotspot functionality on | 20:08 |
| PietPompies | hence my attempt to do it through Ubuntu | 20:08 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: Just a simple question: Have you activated the WLAN card using the hardware switch on the notebook and key combination FN+F8? | 20:09 |
| PietPompies | the switch is on | 20:10 |
| PietPompies | FN+F8 doesn't seem to have any effect - don't think the shortcut works in Ubunut | 20:10 |
| PietPompies | Ubuntu | 20:10 |
| PietPompies | Ubuntu picks up that the wireless is on | 20:10 |
| Kilos | hen try the fone to search again | 20:11 |
| PietPompies | phone doesn't pick it up | 20:12 |
| PietPompies | I've got an old router that I plugged in - the phone picks that up | 20:12 |
| drussell | PietPompies: I think it's a bug | 20:13 |
| drussell | PietPompies: it was working under 11.04 | 20:13 |
| drussell | PietPompies: but I've just found that exact same issue under 11.10 and 12.04 earlier today | 20:13 |
| PietPompies | ah... looks like I didn't look hard enough then | 20:13 |
| PietPompies | can you send me the link of someone who had a similar issue? | 20:14 |
| PietPompies | don't suppose it's possible to back track to 10.04 | 20:16 |
| PietPompies | 11.04 | 20:16 |
| Kilos | lo plustwo | 20:16 |
| plustwo | oom Kilos how are you doing? | 20:17 |
| plustwo | hi everyone ... | 20:17 |
| Kilos | well ty and you plustwo | 20:17 |
| plustwo | o/ | 20:17 |
| Kilos | PietPompies, have you tried connecting via btooth yet? | 20:18 |
| PietPompies | yes - no luck | 20:18 |
| Kilos | do ifones have bt? | 20:19 |
| PietPompies | yup | 20:19 |
| Kilos | and they dont see each other? | 20:19 |
| Kilos | you need to tell the pc bt to search | 20:19 |
| PietPompies | ah, the bluetooth is greyed out | 20:20 |
| Kilos | maybe you need to plug a bt dongle in | 20:20 |
| PietPompies | I wonder if it isn't a compatibility issue, similar to what drussell mentioned | 20:21 |
| Kilos | dunno if that lappy has one internally | 20:21 |
| Kilos | do you have a usb bt dongle | 20:21 |
| PietPompies | nope | 20:21 |
| PietPompies | unfortunately | 20:21 |
| Kilos | eish | 20:21 |
| PietPompies | the iPhone can act as a hotspot, so perhaps my solution is just to buy large databundles for it | 20:22 |
| Kilos | isnt it slower then a modem | 20:22 |
| inetpro | plustwo: good evening | 20:23 |
| Kilos | that isnt solving the prob how are you gonna get the lappy to see the iphone | 20:23 |
| PietPompies | no, it's quite fast if the signal is strong enough | 20:23 |
| PietPompies | I'll just let it be to be honest | 20:23 |
| inetpro | plustwo: have you perhaps played with the hotspot function on Ubuntu 11.10? | 20:23 |
| PietPompies | mostly use the windows laptop | 20:24 |
| PietPompies | how do you search for wireless networks in 11.10? | 20:25 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: see http://www.bigfatostrich.com/2011/10/solved-ubuntu-11-10-wireless-issues/ | 20:25 |
| inetpro | perhaps it can help | 20:25 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ls -la will see if there is a bt in that lappy hey? | 20:25 |
| Kilos | ah | 20:26 |
| nuvolari | whoa. activity like mad! | 20:26 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: wb | 20:26 |
| Kilos | lol jy slaap | 20:26 |
| nuvolari | pffft, ek slaap nie | 20:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:26 |
| nuvolari | hhet 'n composition gemaak | 20:26 |
| nuvolari | *het | 20:26 |
| nuvolari | van kiekies wat ek vandag geneem het | 20:27 |
| nuvolari | en met 'n halwe oog fliek gekyk | 20:27 |
| Kilos | if you snooze you lose | 20:27 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: just take that with a pinch of salt since you don't have the same hardware | 20:27 |
| nuvolari | was net drrrr, drrrr peeeeee! drrr drrr! Boef! drrr peeee doef! | 20:28 |
| drussell | PietPompies: I think I've found the solution | 20:28 |
| drussell | PietPompies: or at least a workarounde | 20:28 |
| drussell | PietPompies: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64494/wired-connection-shared-with-other-computers-connects-then-disconnects-in-11-10 | 20:28 |
| PietPompies | thanks inetpro - this looks promising | 20:28 |
| * nuvolari craves for milk | 20:29 | |
| Kilos | baby | 20:29 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: good idea | 20:29 |
| Kilos | babies | 20:29 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 20:30 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 20:30 | |
| PietPompies | thanks drussell - I saw this post. From what I could pickup the solution was to kill dnsmasq. It's not running on my pc | 20:30 |
| drussell | PietPompies: it works as part of the network manager connection sharing | 20:30 |
| inetpro | The workaround for now is to set IPv6 options to Ignore and then sudo killall dnsmasq. Reconnect and it should work. | 20:31 |
| drussell | PietPompies: the key bit is "IPv6 options to Ignore" | 20:31 |
| nuvolari | still sounds like firestarter's connection sharing is the simplest :P | 20:31 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: he needs wifi to work | 20:31 |
| inetpro | bye squi[tab] | 20:32 |
| nuvolari | inetpro: connection sharing over wifi, or is it a different kind of issue? | 20:32 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: yep | 20:33 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: but with the ubuntu acting as a wifi hotspot | 20:33 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 20:34 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 20:34 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 20:34 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: also read the bug comments at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/865001 | 20:35 |
| superfly | lots of chatter tonight | 20:35 |
| PietPompies | is network manager the same as "network" in 11.10? | 20:35 |
| Kilos | http://mylinuxramblings.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/how-to-stop-ubuntu-11-10-wireless-dr | 20:35 |
| drussell | PietPompies: nope | 20:36 |
| drussell | Kilos: good find | 20:36 |
| * drussell subscribes | 20:36 | |
| PietPompies | if I type network manager into the search, nothing comes up | 20:37 |
| drussell | PietPompies: I've just tested it here, the workaround above certainly fixes it | 20:37 |
| drussell | PietPompies: you're connecting your laptop via wired? and then trying to share that wired connection via your laptops wireless connection, yes? | 20:38 |
| PietPompies | connecting via 3G | 20:38 |
| PietPompies | then trying to share via wireless | 20:38 |
| drussell | PietPompies: ahh ok, yup, same principle | 20:38 |
| drussell | PietPompies: I'm actually doing exactly the same thing here | 20:39 |
| drussell | PietPompies: just tested with 11.10 and 12.04 | 20:39 |
| PietPompies | awesome - so you recommend this: The workaround for now is to set IPv6 options to Ignore and then sudo killall dnsmasq. Reconnect and it should work. | 20:40 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that link of yours is interesting but I don't think is related | 20:40 |
| Kilos | aw sorry | 20:40 |
| Kilos | i try | 20:40 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: try it | 20:40 |
| drussell | inetpro: I think it is, it seems to be reporting the exact issue | 20:40 |
| inetpro | hmm | 20:41 |
| drussell | inetpro: it's the outgoing/shared connection that's at fault, doesn't matter what the incoming supply connection is | 20:41 |
| Kilos | i know how frustrating it can be when things dont work and for young fellas its even worse | 20:41 |
| Kilos | and i like seeing ubuntu work where windows cant | 20:42 |
| PietPompies | hahaha, I'd think it's worse for the older generation - they've had enough practice on most things to know how it works (technology excluded) | 20:42 |
| Kilos | but patience is lacking in the young ones | 20:42 |
| * inetpro needs some sleep | 20:43 | |
| PietPompies | won't deny that | 20:43 |
| * plustwo is now releaved the Vodacom connection works better on the tablet | 20:44 | |
| Kilos | ok inetpro sleep tight. ty for the help and chats | 20:44 |
| Kilos | visit more often | 20:44 |
| inetpro | PietPompies: good luck out there, and do come back soon even if your problems are gone | 20:44 |
| PietPompies | the workaround doesn't work for me | 20:44 |
| Kilos | aw | 20:44 |
| PietPompies | thanks very much for all your help! | 20:44 |
| PietPompies | and donating some of your evening for hopefully a worthy cause | 20:44 |
| inetpro | np | 20:44 |
| Kilos | yes PietPompies we like to see new blood here | 20:45 |
| inetpro | good night | 20:45 |
| Kilos | nag boetie | 20:45 |
| PietPompies | good night | 20:45 |
| PietPompies | I thought Wed night was "klein Saterdag"! | 20:45 |
| drussell | PietPompies: hmm.... you've set IPv6 to ignore? | 20:45 |
| PietPompies | yes | 20:45 |
| PietPompies | I'll take you through exactly what I do | 20:46 |
| PietPompies | firstly delete all wireless connections in "network connections" | 20:46 |
| plustwo | inetpro I haven't played around with 11.10 wifi stuff (hotspots) | 20:46 |
| PietPompies | then click wireless - "use as hotspot" in Networks | 20:47 |
| PietPompies | a wireless connection appears under wireless in Network connections | 20:47 |
| PietPompies | but there is no active connection | 20:47 |
| PietPompies | and last used = never | 20:47 |
| PietPompies | network connections icon does look greyed out though | 20:48 |
| drussell | PietPompies: one sec let me test something... | 20:48 |
| drussell | back in a few mins | 20:48 |
| Kilos | PietPompies, if you then go add doesnt it show more stuff | 20:49 |
| Kilos | or edit | 20:49 |
| PietPompies | I click on edit | 20:49 |
| PietPompies | set IPv6 to ignore | 20:49 |
| Kilos | i am on maverick so not sure what the changes look like | 20:49 |
| Kilos | ah | 20:49 |
| PietPompies | screen shots would actually be best in these situations | 20:49 |
| Kilos | wait for drussel to come back, he is at canonical i think | 20:50 |
| PietPompies | wow, ok | 20:51 |
| Kilos | maybe even tumbleweed tomorrow he is in the developement guys | 20:51 |
| Kilos | someone will find a fix for you | 20:52 |
| PietPompies | I just hope its not something silly | 20:52 |
| PietPompies | but I've tried most suggetions I could find | 20:53 |
| PietPompies | perhaps it's the driver | 20:53 |
| Kilos | what bugs me is that the phone doesnt even see your wireless signal from the pc | 20:53 |
| PietPompies | yes, that's why I think it may be the driver | 20:53 |
| Kilos | could be | 20:53 |
| Kilos | or its not activated | 20:53 |
| PietPompies | previously had windows installed on this machine and wireless worked fine | 20:53 |
| PietPompies | so the hardware should be ok | 20:53 |
| plustwo | is there no switch on the laptop that needs to be switched on and off to activate the wireless part? | 20:53 |
| PietPompies | I've got it switched on | 20:54 |
| PietPompies | That would be a REAL newbie mistake! | 20:54 |
| Kilos | if its active the fone must see it if its working | 20:54 |
| Kilos | drussell, wb | 20:55 |
| drussell | hey PietPompies I've just double checked, my 11.10 needed a reboot before it worked but it did work, there's probably something that didnt' respond well to the killall | 20:56 |
| drussell | Kilos: thanks :o) | 20:56 |
| PietPompies | ok, I'll give that a go | 20:56 |
| PietPompies | otherwise may be a driver that needs updating | 20:56 |
| drussell | PietPompies: so... to get this working I did | 20:56 |
| drussell | PietPompies: network manager applet > edit connections | 20:57 |
| drussell | wireless tab, click add | 20:57 |
| drussell | input ssid, change mode from infrastructure to ad-hoc | 20:58 |
| drussell | click security tab | 20:58 |
| superfly | http://oilrush-game.com/news/2012/01/25/oil-rush-released/ | 20:58 |
| drussell | change it to whatever and put a passphrase in | 20:58 |
| drussell | click ipv4 settings | 20:58 |
| drussell | set method to share with other computers | 20:58 |
| drussell | click ipv6 settings | 20:59 |
| drussell | tab | 20:59 |
| drussell | set method to ignore | 20:59 |
| drussell | then I rebooted | 20:59 |
| PietPompies | ok, I've followed those instructions exactly | 20:59 |
| drussell | (click save first ;o) | 20:59 |
| PietPompies | hehehe | 21:00 |
| PietPompies | only question is that I have network connections - not network manager | 21:00 |
| PietPompies | but options are the same | 21:00 |
| PietPompies | also, my network connections tab is slightly greyed out in the taskbar | 21:00 |
| drussell | PietPompies: so network manager is linked to that applet in the top right of your menu bar | 21:00 |
| drussell | PietPompies: the only other bug I've found | 21:01 |
| drussell | PietPompies: is that you may also need to set the "connect automatically" checkbox | 21:02 |
| drussell | PietPompies: because if you don't the wireless network you've just set up doesn't appear as one for you to manually start it seems | 21:02 |
| PietPompies | ok, I've saved your instructions incause I need to redo it | 21:03 |
| PietPompies | will reboot and see if it makes a difference | 21:03 |
| Kilos | good luck | 21:03 |
| drussell | PietPompies: once you've set it up, it seems to work straight away | 21:03 |
| drussell | PietPompies: no tinkering required :o) | 21:03 |
| drussell | PietPompies: indeed, as Kilos says, good luck! | 21:04 |
| PietPompies | hehehe, the tinkering usually breaks more than it fixes! | 21:04 |
| PietPompies | if you're not online when I get back, thank you so much for all the help | 21:04 |
| PietPompies | really appreciate it | 21:04 |
| Kilos | well come on reboot lets see | 21:04 |
| Kilos | come back again | 21:05 |
| PietPompies | and I'm off - will be back! | 21:05 |
| * Kilos holds thumbs | 21:05 | |
| drussell | Kilos: hehe, I hope it works ;o) | 21:06 |
| drussell | Kilos: I've tested here so it *should* | 21:07 |
| Kilos | drussell, yeah me too | 21:07 |
| Kilos | all the different pcs make all the probs | 21:07 |
| * drussell likes the vibe in #ubuntu-za | 21:07 | |
| Kilos | yeah we a happy family | 21:07 |
| drussell | Kilos: yeah, all the different manufacturers, different components, makes it pretty difficult to get a stable base across such a wide range of hardware | 21:08 |
| drussell | Kilos: for what we have to work with, I think we do a damn good job :o) | 21:08 |
| Kilos | yeah i think so too | 21:08 |
| drussell | Kilos: and when I say we, I mean everyone in the ubuntu community | 21:08 |
| Kilos | without you guys we all would be lost | 21:08 |
| drussell | Kilos: heh without everyone in the community we'd be nothing | 21:09 |
| Kilos | i cant imagine still being on ubuntu without #ubuntu-za | 21:09 |
| drussell | Kilos: btw you tried 12.04 and the new HUD yet? | 21:09 |
| drussell | PietPompies: so far so good ;o) | 21:09 |
| Kilos | PietPompies, wb | 21:09 |
| superfly | drussell: being the leader of an open source project which spans not only hardware, but also distros and operating systems, I know exactly what you mean ;-) | 21:09 |
| PietPompies | thanks | 21:09 |
| drussell | PietPompies: laptop didn't explode in a giant ball of flame so we're doing ok so far :o) | 21:10 |
| Kilos | no drussell my pc cant handle unity | 21:10 |
| PietPompies | hahaha | 21:10 |
| PietPompies | no joy though | 21:10 |
| drussell | Kilos: booooo :o( | 21:10 |
| Kilos | and bandwidth holds me on maverick | 21:10 |
| PietPompies | at least it saved the settings | 21:10 |
| drussell | PietPompies: damn | 21:10 |
| PietPompies | but still not connecting | 21:10 |
| Kilos | eish | 21:10 |
| PietPompies | I think I should try updating the drivers | 21:10 |
| PietPompies | fishy that some of the icons or greyed out | 21:11 |
| Kilos | PietPompies, have you updated since installing | 21:11 |
| drussell | PietPompies: maybe, it's possible the driver doesn't understand/handle ad-hoc mode I guess | 21:11 |
| PietPompies | where do you search for other wireless devices? | 21:11 |
| drussell | Kilos: maverick was a good release ;o) | 21:11 |
| PietPompies | in 11.10 | 21:11 |
| PietPompies | want to see if it can find my phone | 21:12 |
| Kilos | yes PietPompies do you know how rto use the terminal | 21:12 |
| PietPompies | (my other laptop finds it, so its not an issue with the phone) | 21:12 |
| PietPompies | know how to get there, yes | 21:12 |
| drussell | right, gtg all | 21:12 |
| Kilos | ok type in sudo apt-get update | 21:12 |
| Kilos | ty drussell | 21:12 |
| drussell | catch you all later ;o) | 21:12 |
| Kilos | go well | 21:13 |
| drussell | Kilos: cu soon :o) | 21:13 |
| Kilos | :-) | 21:13 |
| plustwo | drussell cheers | 21:13 |
| PietPompies | baie dankie Kilos! | 21:13 |
| PietPompies | have a good evening and thanks for all the help | 21:13 |
| drussell | plustwo: byeee | 21:13 |
| Kilos | PietPompies, i am here | 21:13 |
| drussell | PietPompies: yvw | 21:13 |
| Kilos | PietPompies, type sudo apt-get update in terminal | 21:14 |
| PietPompies | eish - perhaps I'm also too tired - greeting the wrong person... | 21:14 |
| Kilos | quickly man | 21:14 |
| PietPompies | its done | 21:14 |
| Kilos | then sudo apt-get upgrade | 21:14 |
| Kilos | what does it tell you | 21:14 |
| PietPompies | it updated a couple of files | 21:15 |
| PietPompies | didn't see any errors or anything like that | 21:15 |
| Kilos | was one the network goodie | 21:15 |
| PietPompies | not sure | 21:16 |
| Kilos | before you update your system doesnt know what is all available | 21:16 |
| Kilos | and before you upgrade lots of things arent fully updated | 21:16 |
| Kilos | maybe it will work now | 21:16 |
| PietPompies | ok, I try to update from the update manager everytime I log on | 21:16 |
| PietPompies | i'll give it a go | 21:16 |
| Kilos | we can look tomorrow night again | 21:16 |
| PietPompies | nope | 21:17 |
| Kilos | in the update manager you need to tell it to check as well for new stuff | 21:17 |
| PietPompies | ok, I'll do that | 21:17 |
| PietPompies | thanks for all the help | 21:17 |
| Kilos | reload or something | 21:17 |
| Kilos | im not sure in 11.10 | 21:18 |
| Kilos | you welcome, sorry its not working yet | 21:18 |
| PietPompies | got about 200MB of updates | 21:18 |
| PietPompies | so perhaps that will help | 21:18 |
| PietPompies | if not, I will be back! | 21:19 |
| Kilos | see you system wasnt updated | 21:19 |
| Kilos | ok i wait to see | 21:19 |
| PietPompies | indeed - that may be the cause | 21:19 |
| Kilos | lets hope | 21:19 |
| PietPompies | won't be online until next week though, perhaps I can report good news then | 21:20 |
| Kilos | whew i will have forgotten by then | 21:21 |
| PietPompies | but I'll have a look at some of the links you guys provided aswell | 21:21 |
| PietPompies | hahahaha | 21:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:21 |
| PietPompies | well then you can start helping me from scratch and not feel "gatvol"! | 21:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:22 |
| Kilos | some of the top ubuntu guys are here | 21:22 |
| Kilos | someone here will fix it for you | 21:22 |
| PietPompies | It's really great that they're willing to help people out | 21:23 |
| Kilos | thats what ubuntu community is all about | 21:23 |
| Kilos | wonderful buncha geeks | 21:24 |
| PietPompies | hahaha, and proud of it | 21:24 |
| PietPompies | must say, I do enjoy the satisfaction once something is working just the way you want | 21:24 |
| Kilos | yeah | 21:25 |
| PietPompies | but if they want to get more mainstream, they need to make it idiot proof, which is extremely tough | 21:25 |
| Kilos | and it gives you even more satisfaction to help someone else again later | 21:25 |
| PietPompies | the world is good at producing big idiots! | 21:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:26 |
| PietPompies | thanks very true | 21:26 |
| PietPompies | *that's | 21:26 |
| PietPompies | is this update that I'm adding now part of the stable release or the latest available upgrade? | 21:27 |
| Kilos | it includes all the fixes | 21:27 |
| Kilos | and security stuff | 21:27 |
| Kilos | so any bug that was there gets fixed | 21:28 |
| PietPompies | nice and fast with the local server | 21:29 |
| Kilos | which one are you using | 21:29 |
| Kilos | there are a few | 21:29 |
| PietPompies | no idea - za.archive.ubuntu.com | 21:30 |
| Kilos | ya thats good | 21:30 |
| Kilos | also you can look in synaptic package manager | 21:30 |
| Kilos | type in wireless in the search block and it will show whats available | 21:31 |
| PietPompies | I'll just need to wait for the update to complete | 21:32 |
| Kilos | might be something specific to your hardware there | 21:32 |
| PietPompies | It can't get a lock | 21:32 |
| PietPompies | with the updates running | 21:32 |
| Kilos | most likely it will work after upgrading | 21:32 |
| Kilos | 200m is lots that wasnt fully updated | 21:32 |
| PietPompies | I'm trying to think when last I updated - I don't think it was that long ago | 21:33 |
| PietPompies | but it's quite a bit, yes | 21:33 |
| Kilos | yes but if you dont refresh/reload the update manager it doesnt see new updates | 21:34 |
| PietPompies | One of the many things I've learnt tonight! | 21:34 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get update gets them all | 21:34 |
| Kilos | have you joined our mailing list | 21:35 |
| PietPompies | nope - where can I add my email? | 21:35 |
| Kilos | thats normally where guys start off looking for help[ | 21:35 |
| Kilos | ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com | 21:36 |
| PietPompies | i see... I just got so frustrated with it not working I thought I'd get some live help! | 21:36 |
| PietPompies | so do I just sent a blank email to that email address? | 21:36 |
| Kilos | yeah its better here but you also learn from others asking there for help and seeing how they are helped | 21:37 |
| PietPompies | or with subscribe in the subject | 21:37 |
| Kilos | you subscribe | 21:37 |
| Kilos | i have forgotten how already | 21:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 21:37 |
| PietPompies | I'm sure I'll find it on the website | 21:38 |
| PietPompies | great, update complete | 21:38 |
| PietPompies | I'll need to restart I think | 21:38 |
| Kilos | you can just state you problem there as completely as possible and will get help from guys that arent here as well | 21:38 |
| Kilos | but most are | 21:39 |
| Kilos | ok i wait and see | 21:39 |
| PietPompies | great, will be back in 5 min | 21:39 |
| Kilos | cool | 21:39 |
| * plustwo goes through the logs (backlogs) ... | 21:40 | |
| Kilos | hehe we been chatting the hind leg off this donkey | 21:42 |
| Kilos | where you been plustwo | 21:42 |
| plustwo | Kilos: most of the time on courses | 21:43 |
| Kilos | ah | 21:43 |
| plustwo | plus away from work... | 21:44 |
| plustwo | tiring | 21:44 |
| plustwo | @ least I wasn't china | 21:45 |
| Kilos | hehe | 21:45 |
| plustwo | in China | 21:45 |
| plustwo | I'm using a touch screen & typing errors are such huge | 21:46 |
| Kilos | these modern things are too much for me | 21:48 |
| Kilos | like my boet has a bb fone | 21:48 |
| Kilos | what a pain | 21:48 |
| plustwo | heh... hence called high-tech | 21:48 |
| Kilos | yay PietPompies wb | 21:49 |
| PietPompies | sorry for delay - rebooted twice | 21:49 |
| Kilos | np | 21:49 |
| PietPompies | still no luck! | 21:49 |
| Kilos | eish | 21:49 |
| Kilos | send one mail to the lists | 21:49 |
| PietPompies | but at boot up, it said not all networking functionality activated | 21:49 |
| PietPompies | or something to that effect | 21:50 |
| PietPompies | it was looking for network configuration | 21:50 |
| Kilos | ah now you can find what to activate | 21:50 |
| PietPompies | haha, and so the quest continues! I'll play around with it a bit over the weekend | 21:50 |
| PietPompies | Anyhow, I should also be off to bed - work awaits tomorrow | 21:51 |
| Kilos | sleep tight PietPompies | 21:51 |
| PietPompies | hehehe, jy ook Ook Kilos | 21:51 |
| Kilos | nice meeting you | 21:51 |
| PietPompies | *Oom | 21:51 |
| Kilos | haha dont you also start that | 21:51 |
| PietPompies | you too, and thanks again for all the help and patience | 21:51 |
| Kilos | yw | 21:52 |
| PietPompies | hehehe, when in Rome... | 21:52 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:52 |
| PietPompies | I'll update next week if I've made any progress | 21:52 |
| Kilos | good luck | 21:52 |
| PietPompies | enjoy the rest of your week | 21:52 |
| Kilos | you too lad | 21:52 |
| PietPompies | thanks | 21:52 |
| PietPompies | cheers! | 21:53 |
| Kilos | toods | 21:53 |
| Kilos | night guys. sleep tight | 21:53 |
| plustwo | cheers. gudnite oomph | 21:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:53 |
| plustwo | *oom | 21:54 |
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