[00:00] <urlin2u> kirby92, sorry I meant gthat when your addressing another on the channel use their nic, you can autocomplete it with the tab.
[00:00] <Gentoo64> gh0zt: google tells me ndiswrapper is needed for that adapter
[00:00] <deper29> Slart: now what?
[00:00] <gh0zt> I tried that but it didn't work.
[00:00] <urlin2u> !broadcom > kirby92
[00:00] <gh0zt> I downloaded the xp drivers and when i tried to load them, it didn't work.  i think its because whoever got that working, only got it for the 32 bit ubuntu
[00:00] <Slart> deper29: now it's time for another reboot.. do a full shutdown again.. then try and see if it works
[00:01] <javier_> Hi! Someone can help me compiling a program=
[00:01] <javier_> ?
[00:01] <Gentoo64> gh0zt: really no idea. you can get usb-ethernet adapter that work out box on linux for ~£3 though
[00:01] <Fujk> is there a desktop ubuntu version for 64-bit with support for 4 GB of ram? last time I installed ubuntu I had to install the server edition because there was a ram limit...
[00:01] <Darkfrost> @javier, What program?
[00:01] <urlin2u> kirby92, the bot has a link for setting those up make sure you identify it when you post if it does not get running, it will help the pro's. :D
[00:02] <Slart> Fujk: all 64 bit versions support more than 4 Gb of RAM
[00:02] <MoDDD> kirby92: if don't work try to unload and reload b43legacy module
[00:02] <urlin2u> javier_, naming the program will go a long way, youmay not need to.
[00:02] <javier_> Darkfros: is a program called BEAST. I have the folder with .sh file and makefile
[00:03] <hexacode> hey you guys, what does g+ws mean in the following "sudo chmod -R g+ws /var/svn/$REPOS"  ?   ive never seen s before, and im also just plain used to using octal notation
[00:03] <hexacode> thanks
[00:03] <kirby92> MoDDD: I've already tried the post and tried unloading and reloading it.
[00:03] <gh0zt> Gentoo64: which one do you recommend?
[00:04] <Fujk> is there a desktop ubuntu version for 64-bit, intel core i5 with support for 4 GB of ram? last time I installed ubuntu I had to install the server edition because there was a ram limit or cpu limit (can't remember the reason)...
[00:04] <Slart> Fujk: all 64 bit versions support more than 4 Gb of RAM
[00:04] <hexacode> oops i meant chmod
[00:04] <Fujk> Slart: do you remember why you had to go the server edition? this was like a year+ ago
[00:04] <Gentoo64> gh0zt: i just ordered one for a really old laptop today that apparently works out the box: http://goo.gl/4k0q2
[00:05] <deper29> Slart: It's turning on!
[00:05] <MoDDD> kirby92: ok try this.. unload your b43 module, load ath9k module, reload b43 module and unload ath9k.. I know is crazy but with me this solution work :)
[00:05] <deper29> Slart: no x though, just a black screen asking me to login
[00:05] <Slart> Fujk: 32bit desktop had a limitation .. something along the lines of 3.5 GB. Server kernels used the PAE extension which allowed you to use 32bit ubuntu with more than 4 GB of ram
[00:05] <Slart> deper29: ok.. at least things are happening.. =)
[00:06] <deper29> Slart: I agree :) I was happy to see that
[00:06] <Fujk> Slart: ok so this is fixed now, so it was only ram limit, not core cpus?
[00:06] <MoDDD> kirby92: and after that try again rfkill list all
[00:06] <kirby92> MoDDD: OK I'll give it a try.
[00:06] <gh0zt> gentoo:  Oh I see waht you got.  I want a wireless usb adapter though.  this is usb -> ethernet
[00:06] <shovell> the only reason i ask here is that i belive it is a ubuntu issue more than wine
[00:06] <Slart> Fujk: oh.. I have no idea about that.. I don't think I've ever been close to those limits..
[00:06] <MoDDD> kirby92: thx xD
[00:06] <Gentoo64> gh0zt: ahh ok, i bought one of them the other day too that works fine: http://goo.gl/rnesp
[00:06] <Slart> deper29: so, you can you log in with your regular username/password?
[00:07] <Gentoo64> gh0zt: just have a look around on the item comments, most people will say if it works on linux or not out the box
[00:07] <Gentoo64> that tiny little one i linked to is pretty decent and cheap actually
[00:08] <deper29> Slart: I can :)
[00:08] <Slart> deper29: great.. now run this      tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog    it will print out the last 50 lines from your system log
[00:09] <Raymond_> i have a usb netgear wireless access point. it connects to the network, but nothing shows up in the browser. any ideas
[00:09] <Slart> deper29: I'm not sure about this.. but there might be stuff in that log file you don't want to share with the world.. just look at the printout and see if you see anything obviously personal
[00:09] <aBound> Raymond_, Any chance you may have set your Firewall to block the port 80 or router?
[00:10] <Fujk> if I reinstall from lucid lynx to latest 11.x, will it preserve my docky, gnome do, terminal themes etc?
[00:10] <deper29> Slart: nothing personal in there
[00:11] <Slart> deper29: if you've looked it over and it looks ok you can run this command     tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit     it will send the same thing you saw to the website we talked about before
[00:11] <Raymond_> abound, no
[00:11] <tellone> my fan so quiet after last update, is there any reason i should worry?
[00:11] <aBound> Fujk, They have an upgrade version for when you install Ubuntu 11.10 but I can't say for certain if it'll preserve your settings.
[00:11] <Gentoo64> tellone: i wouldnt worry
[00:12] <aBound> Raymond_, Have you checked if you were connected to the access point? By the way are you able to access anything other than the web browser?
[00:12] <ablyss> hi, does anyone know if the ubunto one program for windows has to be open and minimized for files to be synced ?  It seems if its closed nothing is being synced
[00:12] <deper29> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/815974
[00:12] <MoDDD> kirby92: work?
[00:12] <Slart> deper29: ahh.. you see those lines about NVRM in there?
[00:12] <tellone> but i like the fan disappeared during  the reboot to get the upgrades to kick in
[00:13] <OerHeks> ablyss, no, once logged in, minimize won´t interrupt sync
[00:13] <tellone> it's like
[00:13] <Slart> deper29: you installed the nvidia binary driver from the nvidia site, right?
[00:13] <deper29> Slart: once a long time ago, yes
[00:13] <deper29> Slart: I still have that file somewhere
[00:13] <Slart> deper29: it's still hanging around in there... that's probably what has been messing things up..
[00:14] <Raymond_> abound, software center doesnt work, how would i check if it connected to the access point
[00:14] <Slart> deper29: if you have the file you can run     sudo sh NVIDIA-blablablabla --uninstall    I think that will remove the driver
[00:14] <deper29> Slart: how would I go about removing it?
[00:14] <deper29> Slart: blablabla is what the rest of that file is called I presume :P
[00:15] <deper29> Slart: I'll explore a bit here and see
[00:15] <Slart> deper29: hehe.. yes.. it's a long name with version numbers and whatnot
[00:15] <aBound> Raymond_, Depends from within Ubuntu 11.10 you can easily click the "Wireless Signal" button and see what access point it's currently using.
[00:16] <aBound> Raymond_, Should be on the top right.
[00:16] <deper29> Slart: the file has .run at the end, I wouldn't include that would i?
[00:16] <Raymond_> abound, i am using lucid, and it is connected to the access point
[00:17] <wolfmitchell> Ugh client randomly quit
[00:17] <Slart> deper29: yes, include that in the command
[00:17] <Raymond_> abound, i type in startpage.com and the site does not come up
[00:17] <Slart> deper29: so...     sudo sh NVIDIA-blablalb.run --uninstall
[00:17] <wolfmitchell> Nvm g2g
[00:18] <aBound> Raymond_, Have you used this device before? Perhaps the driver isn't supported by the kernel.
[00:18] <XrD> Raymond_ can you ping anything from a konsole
[00:19] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  running ubuntu 11.10 here.  when i try to connect to a wireless network for the first time (when i havent connected to it previously)... and i enter the wrong password; there seems to be *no way* to change the password if i got i t wrong the first time.  ubuntu keeps trying to reconnect with the wrong password
[00:19] <aBound> Raymond_, Like XrD said open a terminal and type: ping localhost
[00:19] <Raymond_> abound, first time using, its a netgear wg111 USB i dont think netgear makes a driver to install on ubuntu, but the driver may be on the device itself, idk.
[00:20] <aBound> Raymond_, The driver might not be installed by default or be supported in the older kernels.
[00:20] <aBound> Newer kernels usually contain newer built-in drivers.
[00:20] <aBound> If the device is new it might not be installed by default for the 2.6 kernel that Lucid uses.
[00:21] <deper29> Slart: I get a blue thing with an error: File '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.sl' is not a symbolic link
[00:21] <Slart> deper29: yes, that's ok.. can you click ok?
[00:21] <deper29> Slart: other than that, it uinsatalled. I clicked ok
[00:21] <deper29> Slart: time for another reboot? :P
[00:21] <aBound> Raymond_, Can't setup a  printer without a driver right the same philosophy goes with the USB device. Try to open a terminal and type: lspci | grep Network
[00:22] <Slart> deper29: hmm.. you might want to run this first    sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current   just to be sure
[00:22] <mega1> how do i create a shared folder on ubuntu server 11.10 and be able to be see by windows
[00:22] <Slart> deper29: in case that other nvidia driver removed something that we need.. these are two installers that mess with the same set of files, after all
[00:23] <tweet> hi all ! I have issues with grub 1.99 here..
[00:23] <tweet> I did an update and I see 3.0.0-15 in the grub.cfg, yet the boot menu does not reflect that
[00:24] <Bruno> good night
[00:25] <Bruno> eu need help
[00:25] <Bruno> i need help
[00:26] <aBound> tweet, To see the currently used kernel being used by the distro open a terminal and type: uname -r
[00:26] <Guest41698> i would like start my apache2, and i am not achieve
[00:27] <tweet> I am aware of that it gives me 3.0.0-12-generic
[00:27] <XrD> Guest41698: whats the error
[00:27] <deper29> Slart: just rebooting :)
[00:27] <urlin2u> tweet, you try a update-grub?
[00:27] <Guest41698> the error is this apache2 -k restart
[00:27] <Guest41698> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[00:27] <Guest41698> i am new at linux
[00:27] <enzo> economia
[00:28] <urlin2u> tweet, if you have a dualboot with another linux it may have the grub control as well.
[00:28] <tweet> since I log into a previous version... There is no error. I did a sudo update-grub and mkconfig.. I even tried using startupmanager which reads the grub.cfg properly with Windows 7 and kernel 3.0.0.-15.. Somehow the latest changes are not reflected on the boot menu
[00:28] <XrD> Guest41698: try: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[00:28] <pablomujik_> hello somebody will help me
[00:28] <urlin2u> tweet, startup manger will not move the stanzas in a upgrade it is deprecated.
[00:28] <Guest41698> ok i will try
 can you please guide me on this?
[00:29] <urlin2u> tweet, maybe, you have ubuntu and windows only?
[00:29] <DasEi> !ask | pablomujik_
[00:30] <tweet> yes, I have Win 7 and Ubuntu 11.10 - both 64 bit
[00:30] <pablomujik_> somebody con help me to install ubuntu with other win7 partition? the installer dosnt recognice my partitions
[00:31] <Slart> deper29: so.. did it work?
[00:31] <urlin2u> tweet, the startup manager is deprecated so that is no good to start with, but ut sounds like even without it your not seeing the kernel. hat do you see when you run sudo update-grub
[00:31] <urlin2u> it*
[00:31] <DasEi> pablomujik_: sure, both to be fresh installed ?
[00:31] <Guest41698> pk
[00:31] <Guest41698> ok
[00:32] <tweet> sudo update-grub
[00:32] <urlin2u> pablomujik_, run sudo fdsik -lu in the ubuntu terminal and pastebin the output.
[00:32] <rhom> guy! I install the virtual (guest os) with virtualbox with raw drive. Now its unknown partition is there way to read it?
[00:32] <Guest41698> so, i am directory root@bt:/etc/init.d
[00:33] <aBound> Eh, looks like raymond left.
[00:33] <tweet> sudo update-grub
[00:33] <tweet> Generating grub.cfg ...
[00:33] <tweet> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-15-generic
[00:33] <tweet> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-15-generic
[00:33] <tweet> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-14-generic
[00:33] <FloodBot1> tweet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <tweet> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.0.0-14-generic
[00:33] <deper29> Slart: you won't like this...black screen again
[00:33] <deper29> Slart: the dark screen with a black border
[00:33] <XrD> Guest41698: K so you logged in as root? Could try to start it but i'm not sure if Apache will tell you not to run directly from root acc.
[00:33] <enzo> !list
[00:33] <Slart> deper29: hmm.. does CTRL+ALT+F1 do anything?
[00:34] <Guest41698> yes i am root
[00:34] <DasEi> rhom: raw ? I don't understand.. you installed vbox and now want a virtual os in there ?
[00:34] <Guest41698> i am logged in as root
[00:34] <urlin2u> tweet, it is at the top of the list, did yoiu run this before you installed startup manager?
[00:34] <tweet> urlin2u, yes I did
[00:34] <XrD> Guest41698 when in that dir, type ./httpd2 start  but I am not sure if you should be running that as root really..
[00:35] <rhom> DasEI: raw is the the virtual drive on the physical disk
[00:35] <dcplaya> Anyone help me with a mounting issue. when I try to change directories to my /media mount (edited fstab to automount ntfs drives) it just sits there, doesnt respond
[00:35] <Guest41698> i undstood
[00:35] <rhom> DasEi: raw is the the virtual drive on the physical disk
[00:35] <DasEi> rhom: I see, let's take the conversation to #vbox
[00:35] <Guest41698> so do i need to use sudo ?
[00:35] <urlin2u> tweet, strange not sure why it does not show in the grub menu.
[00:35] <deper29> Slart: I rebooted into recovery, that did nothing :(
[00:36] <Slart> deper29: bah.. and I really thought we fixed it
[00:36] <XrD> Guest41698 that wont be of much use if you are already logged in as root
[00:36] <DasEi> rhom: enter /j #vbox in your messenger
[00:36] <deper29> Slart: damn, I have to shutdown again. recovery is doing that silly thing again :(
[00:36] <tweet> urlin2u, this has been bothering me since last evening
[00:36] <Guest41698> so, how do i ?
[00:37] <Slart> deper29: well.. someone else will have to take it from here.. I have to get to bed.. but do the pastebin thing again and ask the channel.. give them the links to those log files. I'm sure someone here can help you from there..
[00:37] <deper29> Slart: thanks a bunch again :)
[00:37] <lm12> Guest41698: Whats prob?
[00:37] <Slart> deper29: tell them you had the nvidia binary driver installed before.. that might save them a couple of minutes
[00:37] <Slart> deper29: you're welcome.. hope you get it fixed
[00:38] <deper29> lm12: i have a black screen upon boot :(
[00:38] <urlin2u> tweet, have you moodified grub to put windows at the top of the list?
[00:38] <tweet> urlin2u, yes
[00:38] <XrD> lm12: he is trying to start apache but get's the user error and has now logged in as root to try it from there, doesnt seem like the best idea.
[00:38] <tweet> I edited 40_custom
[00:38] <XrD> Has anyone seen Infinity?
[00:38] <lm12> Hmm
[00:39] <gbase> hi
[00:39] <urlin2u> tweet, just guessing but I suspect that is the problem, I don't really know though nor an answer, you might make a thread at the ubuntu forums as well.
[00:39] <dcplaya> Can anyone help me with a drive mount issue? fstab is set up and worked before I upgraded to 11.10
[00:39] <tweet> but doesn't update-grub update the cfg file? My windows comes from the custom file
[00:39] <gbase> I would like to know if anyone has a bit of spare time to help me setting up a wireless access point
[00:40] <LucidGuy> I have a system that randomly crashes.  I was able to capture this at the console.  Thoughts?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/815996/
[00:40] <urlin2u> tweet, supposed to, but it seems to not be, not sure why.
[00:41] <lm12> Guest41698: Just to ensure I know where you stand, did you attempt a dual boot, or install Vbox or KVM etc..?
[00:41] <Guest41698> at one time when i installed the apache2 had run
[00:41] <Guest41698> but now i need to run him
[00:41] <XrD> Guest41698 you may wish to read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804436
[00:41] <urlin2u> tweet, here is agrub 2 wiki you may already know this url, just passing it on. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:42] <Guest41698> ok
[00:43] <lm12> Well, I'm not sure how you got in the situation, but you could try booting from a live disk
[00:43] <tweet> urlin2u, i saw that link earlier..was not very helpful
[00:43] <lm12> So you can see the FS and possibly the prob.l
[00:44] <urlin2u> tweet, grub is a bit complex that is why I suggest the forums as well, if you post there give all the info I have discovered by asking questions I.E. the grub modification...etc
[00:45] <tweet> urlin2u, I moved the grub.cfg to another file and generated a new one - even this one has the windows entry
[00:45] <tweet> picked from th 40-custom file..
[00:45] <tweet> let me see if it helps
[00:46] <urlin2u> tweet, cool
[00:46] <aBound> Man that spaghetti got to me.
[00:46] <urlin2u> tweet, I'm mostly familiar with setting up multibooting with grub not the other custom stuff.
[00:48] <tweet> urlin2u, time for me to try a reboot
[00:48] <urlin2u> tweet, cool
[00:50] <aBound> Good thing for IRC.
[00:50] <tweet> urlin2u, no luck..
[00:51] <aBound> Ahh...
[00:51] <msepsis> I'm looking for a command that will tell me what driver is currently in use for my video card
[00:51] <synthetixx> oneiric is eating all my cpu!  (kworker threads) does anyone have a fix for this?
[00:51] <msepsis> /sbin/lsmod | grep _______
[00:51] <biagiol3> ciao
[00:55] <Guest41698> i already try all manner, i guess a manual about it, but
[00:55] <urlin2u> tweet, to bad I wish I knew the answer.:(
[00:55] <Guest41698> nothing
[00:56] <Raymond_> abound, lspci brought up the internal wireless device, and the ping was 127.0.0.1
[00:56] <aBound> tweet, There's always Ubuntuforums too if some of us don't know the answer.
[00:56] <kenalex> hello
[00:56] <urlin2u> !tab > Guest41698
[00:57] <msepsis> ohhhh is someone having wireless issues?
[00:57] <msepsis> Raymond - what's the problem?
[00:58] <lm12> Whats prob?
[00:58] <aBound> Raymond_, You might be able to check from here if the device is supported: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices
[00:59] <aBound> Raymond_, lspci | grep USB
[00:59] <lm12> Your getting looped back
[00:59] <lm12> 127 is lo
[01:00] <Yb8022> So I have Ubuntu Server 11.10 installed and I'm just wondering about a minor nuissance, why after logging in does it hang for about 2 seconds before actually getting me in? Specifically after this "Last login: Wed Jan 25 01:32:14 2012 from 95.76.187.104
[01:00] <Yb8022> - 3 second HANG - then logs in
[01:00] <Yb8022> anyone have a clue?
[01:00] <Raymond_> abound, thanlyou
[01:00] <deper29> hey, can someone help me get ubuntu working :P I get a black screen after I boot. I am trying to run 11.04.  upgraded from 10.10. I had nvidia binary drivers installed, then removed them and installed nvidia current. I still get a black screen though, and can only boot into recovery.
[01:00] <Raymond_> thankyou*
[01:00] <lm12> Check logfiles.
[01:01] <aBound> :P
[01:02] <lm12> deper29: Try a clean NVIDIA install (it has that option when you download the latest driver)
[01:02] <lm12> To wipe previous config etc.
[01:02] <deper29> lm12: how do I do that? I am in recovery root shell right now
[01:03] <aBound> deper29, Downgraded from 11.04 to 10.10?
[01:03] <deper29> aBound: I don't know how to downgrade :/
[01:03] <lm12> Driver should be in repository.
[01:03] <lm12> for Ubuntu
[01:03] <aBound> lm12, I don't think he can get to a GUI.
[01:04] <deper29> aBound: you are right, no GUI
[01:04] <Yb8022> lm12: nothing in log files
[01:04] <Yb8022> Jan 25 02:59:46 ro-ISP sshd[954]: Accepted password for bob from 95.76.187.104 port 58725 ssh2
[01:04] <Yb8022> Jan 25 02:59:46 ro-ISP sshd[954]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user bob by (uid=0)
[01:04] <aBound> deper29, Are you able to get a login shell by pressing ctrl-alt-F1
[01:04] <Dr-Willis> deper29:  reinstall is the only real way to 'downgrade' to a older release.
[01:05] <Dr-Willis> deper29:  the nomodeset option may help in your case.
[01:05] <lm12> try apt-get, not sure the package name
[01:05] <Dr-Willis> !nomodeset
[01:05] <deper29> aBound: no,  only shell I get is in recovery. i was able to boot up before and it gave me a shell screen to login into. now I just get the black screen...after the splash screen with ubuntu 11.04
[01:05] <deper29> Dr-Willis: how do I use nomodeset?
[01:06] <urlin2u> deper29, look at the nomodeset Dr-Willis asked the bot to show.
[01:06] <aBound> deper29, Have you tried typing: startx
[01:06] <Dr-Willis> read the url the bot gave deper29 .
[01:06] <deper29> oh, sorry
[01:07] <Dr-Willis> for some of my nvidia systems i have to yuse the nomodeset option, untilli get the nvidia drivers installed from the pacakjge manager.
[01:08] <Dr-Willis> Hopefully the next release will make Nomodeset less and less needed. I only need it rarely these days in 11.10. needed it all the time in 11.04
[01:09] <cawel> If you feel like it, I could use some help to prevent my iwl3945 wireless driver from freezing my Ubuntu 10.11 http://askubuntu.com/questions/98211/switching-the-hardware-wireless-switch-on-makes-dell-vostro-1500-freeze
[01:11] <cakeman> how can i get the terminal to play a sound whener i enter a command
[01:11] <scott__> 'fraid I need some mounting-drive help:  i was copying some files from external ntfs drive to internal ext3 drive (was mounted through fstab) and all of a sudden it stopped...I rebooted and internal drive would not mount...tried manual fsck and got an error 2
[01:11] <deper29> Dr-Willis: I'm just reading this URL
[01:11] <Dr-Willis> cakeman:  the bash prompt has a feature to run a external command, so it could be done that way. Check the bash prompt howto at tldp.org perhaps.
[01:12] <Dr-Willis> cakeman:  it would play a beep or whatever whenever the prompt returns however.. not when you hit enter. :)
[01:12] <Dr-Willis> !prompt
[01:12] <lm12> try this sh nvidia-bug-report.sh
[01:12] <cakeman> DR-Willis: thanks i'll read the howto
[01:13] <deper29> Dr-Willis: when I go to do the edit, at the end of quiet splash I have vt.handoff=7_
[01:13] <deper29> should I leave that there?
[01:13] <Dr-Willis> deper29:  leave it there.
[01:13] <deper29> Dr-Willis: just put nomodeset behind it?
[01:14] <deper29> er, in front of it
[01:14] <Dr-Willis> I think that tells the console to switch to vt 7.  nomodeset befor or after it. shouldent matter.
[01:14] <Dr-Willis> I always change mine to be just 'noquiet nosplash nomodeset' :) because I perfer to disable the boot eyecandy
[01:14] <lm12> or if you can get the file, run sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1.run --advanced-options
[01:14] <Dr-Willis> I also set it where grub always shows.
[01:15] <scott__> could someone help me with this fsck & drive mounting problem?
[01:15] <scott__> please? heheh
[01:15] <artichoku> howdie folks
[01:15] <artichoku> my dear friends, who's in the mood for destroying a "hacker"
[01:15] <lm12> http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/131/kw/linux%20command%20line
[01:16] <tippenein> anyone help me with /etc/network/interfaces file ?
[01:16] <Yb8022> I changed ssh protocol from 2 to 1 in the config, it failed to start so I reverted the config back to protocol 2 and now it still won't start, giving me this: start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.7" (uid=1000 pid=1642 comm="start ssh ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart"
[01:16] <Yb8022> (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[01:16] <OerHeks> artichoku, wrong channel, this is Ubuntu support only.
[01:16] <Yb8022> oh
[01:16] <Yb8022> nevermind
[01:16] <tippenein> I added 2 lines because wireless wouldn't connect and now it disconnects ever 20 seconds or so
[01:16] <artichoku> i know it's ubuntu, just realized alot of my peeps aren't on
[01:17] <artichoku> generally i'm helping :)
[01:17] <artichoku> i'll /list
[01:17] <deper29> Dr-Willis: it worked! my resolution is wacky
[01:17] <deper29> but it worked
[01:18] <scott__> Dr-Willis: i know you were helping someone, but perhaps that task is done now?  you're my god on this channel, and it's been a long time :)
[01:18] <Vivekananda> v
[01:18] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  ive barely been here the last 2+ weeks :)   I can try. but im gettint ready to head to work in about an hr.
[01:18] <aBound> :P
[01:19] <Dr-Willis> I havent even had my Ubuntu box on in over 2 weeks..  To much overtime work.
[01:19] <scott__> Dr-Willis: well it's been months/years since you helped me last...now i'm on my son's desktop and one of my drives just stopped...
[01:20] <Dr-Willis> with a hard drive. check 'dmesg' output when it 'stops' and look for any error messages. Hard drives eem to be the most common point of failure ive had on any suystem these days.
[01:20] <Dr-Willis> Gotten where i backup my backups these days.
[01:20] <scott__> er....his drives...it was mounted through fstab, was copying files from external drive to it, and allofa sudden the copying stopped, I rebooted, and it won't mount at all...noway nowhow
[01:20] <aBound> I'm off. :P
[01:20] <Dr-Willis> try to mount by hand, look for error messages, and dmesg output.
[01:21] <scott__> Dr-Willis: tell me about it :(   i'm in one hell of a mess here
[01:22] <scott__> Dr-Willis: i did try to mount by hand before i came into the channel, but it didn't work...
[01:23] <scott__> this is what i typed in: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tempstore
[01:23] <ag> I'm trying to change the max upload size of owncloud using this cmd ''gksu gedit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini'' but it say cannot open display. i need help
[01:23] <scott__> and this is error message i got: mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[01:24] <somsip> ag: are you sshing to connect to the server?
[01:24] <scott__> Dr-Willis: did this hdd just die, while the copying was going on, and before i rebooted?
[01:25] <Guest41698> friends i achieved
[01:25] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  this is an external USB HD? or interlal sata?
[01:25] <ag> somsip: now yes, but in the morning i was connected to the server
[01:25] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  ive had hdd die without warning, sometimes they come back up/awake.
[01:25] <scott__> Dr-Willis: internal pata
[01:25] <somsip> ag: gedit needs X to display, so you'll have to use a command line editor instead
[01:26] <scott__> no, wait, it is sata, through a promise card
[01:27] <sdferfx> Hi. I want to have system-wide JAVAOPTS so every instance of Java launches with the same options. How can I get that?
[01:27] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  check sudo fdisk -l  output. It Might be on a  differnt  device. When i have problem drive like this. i tend to pull them out and put them in a exteranl usb enclosure. If you cant even hear the drive spin up when powered on.. thats very bad.
[01:27] <ag> somsip: which other i can use? i'm learning ubuntu. Thanks
[01:27] <scott__> the mobo didn't have sata support, it's that old, but the promise card enabled me to use the sata drive
[01:28] <somsip> ag: pico and nano are usually the easiest if you are a beginner. other options include vi and emacs
[01:29] <ag> somsip: so i have to run: nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[01:29] <somsip> ag: sudo nano /etc/...php.ini
[01:29] <scott__> Dr-Willis: the fdisk command only gave me 4 sda partitions...no sdb partitions at all
[01:30] <scott__> yet i know for a fact there are 2 physical drives in this box
[01:31] <ag> somsip: it give me a black screen and it say new file at the bottom
[01:31] <scott__> Dr-Willis: does that mean this linux box isn't even registering the second drive at all?
[01:32] <scott__> we know it's not mounted, but fdisk should still recognize it?
[01:32] <somsip> ag: you did the full path? I just avoided typing the whole thing in my previous comment. So "sudo nano /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini" if that's where it is located
[01:32] <ptosiani> can you suggest a IRC client for ubuntu?
[01:32] <ptosiani> thnx
[01:33] <SwedeMike> ptosiani: irssi.
[01:33] <ag> somsip: yes i did the full path
[01:33] <somsip> ptosiani: irssi, xchat..then there are weechat and browser plugins
[01:33] <nivyaj> hey
[01:33] <somsip> ag: show the output of "ls /etc/php5/apache2"
[01:33] <ptosiani> OK, I'm n xchat, i'm trying to add a new channel: irc://irc.freenode.net/symfony-es
[01:34] <ptosiani> but it keeps saying that the URL is wrong
[01:34] <urlin2u> ptosiani, /join chanel name
[01:34] <nivyaj> I'm setting up a dual boot HD Windows and Ubuntu, and want to make sure I get what's going on. Can someone talk me through the partitioning schemes? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[01:34] <nivyaj> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[01:34] <ptosiani> th irc.// is a channel name?
[01:35] <ag> somsip: how i run that?
[01:35] <somsip> ag: you copy what I typed, paste it into a terminal, and press enter
[01:36] <varun_> hello everyone
[01:36] <christian27> hi
[01:36] <scott__> Dr-Willis: does that mean this linux box isn't even registering the second drive at all?
[01:36] <ag> somsip: i did and it say no such of file or directory
[01:36] <scott__> we know it's not mounted, but fdisk should still recognize it?
[01:36] <urlin2u> ptosiani, /join #synfony-es
[01:37] <somsip> ag: so where is the file you are trying to edit?
[01:37] <urlin2u> ptosiani, sorry /join #symfony-es
[01:37] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  id reboot and see if the BIOS is even seeing the hard drive.
[01:38] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  it may be the controller or drive has died. in such a way that the hardware is not detecting the hd.
[01:38] <varun_> I have ubuntu lucid and an external toshiba hard drive.The the disk utility shows the drive now has 3 bad sectors.Is there a way to correct bad sectors and not just to keep the system from trying to store data there. I read that a low level formatter can do it and also that it is dangerous to use fsk?
[01:38] <ptosiani> k, but I need to add the full server URL somewhere? I'm in xchat / network list trying to add a new network
[01:38] <jagjr> Can someone help me with a Hardrive problem?
[01:38] <ag> somsip: i'm thinking here /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[01:39] <somsip> ag: best to confirm if it exists rather than assuming it does
[01:39] <scott__> yeah...that was the next thing i was gonna check out...perhaps I'll turn to the laptop problem, which is even bigger:  had to try the toshiba recovery tool and it exitted with an error -- after it wiped the partition with the system on it
[01:39] <enchilado> christel
[01:39] <ag> somsip: so how i can check if exist or not?
[01:39] <varun_> jagjr:please state the problem also along with your request.
[01:39] <jagjr> Ubuntu 10.04 and Backtrack 5 R1 won't recognise my Hardrive - It's got windows 7 on it but it saying it's empty
[01:40] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  there are windows 7 recovery/reinstall images you can get  legally online if all else fails. I think i got links to them at http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[01:40] <urlin2u> ptosiani, doesn't my command get you there, when I used connect on a right click of the url it opened.
[01:40] <somsip> ag: do "ls /etc" and see if php5 exists. do "ls /etc/php5" and see is apache2 exists.
[01:41] <Raymond_> how do i ./configure make and install a tar.bz2
[01:41] <urlin2u> !tar > Raymond_
[01:41] <christel> enchilado: yus darling
[01:41] <scott__> Dr-Willis: thx! I'm writing it down...god knows it's all legal here, the laptop being just over a year old
[01:41] <nivyaj> I'm setting up a dual boot HD Windows and Ubuntu, and want to make sure I get what's going on. Can someone talk me through the partitioning schemes? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[01:41] <nivyaj> I'm setting up a dual boot HD Windows and Ubuntu, and want to make sure I get what's going on. Can someone talk me through the partitioning schemes? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[01:41] <FloodBot1> nivyaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:42] <DasEi> !compile| Raymond_
[01:42] <jagjr> It's saying it's unallocated space atm
[01:43] <urlin2u> nivyaj, you on the ubuntu right now the live cd?
[01:43] <ag> somsip: php5 exist, when i run php5 to see apache2 exist I can see apache2filter
[01:43] <john_rambo> http://pastebin.com/6pV4yYsk  <<<<Cant update
[01:43] <scott__> Dr-Willis: i take it there's an underscore symbol in the url you gave me ^^? as per your name?
[01:43] <somsip> ag: hang on - you're on a shared host are you?
[01:43] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  its dr_willis  yes.
[01:44] <scott__> that's how I remembered your handle to be :)
[01:44] <ag> somsip: is my own server
[01:44] <scott__> my poor boy...he's been so good with this new win7 laptop of his...and now it's totally out of commission for days...
[01:45] <ptosiani> thank you urlin2u, I manage to enter the symfony channel
[01:45] <scott__> he's almost religious about running spybot, lavasaoft, firewalls, avg...and still the OS just dies all of a sudden
[01:45] <somsip> ag: so you have built your own server, have apache2 and php5 installed, and you're trying to edit php.ini to change the upload limits?
[01:45] <nivyaj> urlin2u: this is a back up HD-  that i was  using. I have ubuntu on a flash drive to boot, and windows CD. I'm cleaning up the HD to put both OSes on
[01:45] <jagjr> Anyone?
[01:46] <ag> somsip: yes. i want to have my own cloud
[01:46] <scott__> i'm sure he'd love to go linux, but as a budding audio engineer, the software is all proprietary windows stuff
[01:46] <somsip> ag: type "locate php.ini"
[01:46] <urlin2u> nivyaj, you just want the ubuntu on the extra HD?
[01:47] <ag> somsip: nothing happen
[01:47] <urlin2u> nivyaj, I see same HD.
[01:47] <nivyaj> urlin2u:  both OSes.
[01:47] <nivyaj> yea
[01:47] <nivyaj> what happened was the HD crashed. So I've been running ubuntu on a smaller HD till I could deal with the backups.
[01:47] <somsip> ag: dpkg --get-selections | grep php
[01:48] <john_rambo> http://pastebin.com/6pV4yYsk  <<<<Cant update
[01:48] <jagjr> Ubuntu 10.04 and Backtrack 5 R1 won't recognise my Hardrive - It's got windows 7 on it but it saying it's empty
[01:48] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  ive found hard drives to be the weakest link in pc's these days/
[01:48] <jagjr> It's saying it's unallocated space atm
[01:48] <Dr-Willis> scott__:  for every new laptop i get. i always buy a spare hd to image the original to. Just in case.
[01:48] <nivyaj> urlin2u: so i found the article on how to set up the partitions, I just want to know what's  going on there. amd to make sure i'm doing it right
[01:49] <ag> somsip: what i'm supposed to see?
[01:49] <urlin2u> nivyaj, if your hd is a standard mbr setup you just have to be aware of max partition types, ethier 4 primaries which windows runs in, or 3 primaries and a extended that Ubuntu can go in, the extended allows more logical partitions to be added, and can have a ntfs there for a shared partition for ubuntu and windows.
[01:49] <somsip> ag: do I need to put "type this into a terminal"?
[01:49] <somsip> ag: sorry - ignore that. Too hasty. You're loking for php5 being installed
[01:50] <urlin2u> nivyaj, max in how many
[01:50] <ag> somsip: sorry, no, no, i got that. after run the cmd
[01:50] <scott__> Dr-Willis: i would too, but I don't buy them that often, and this is all done/not done by my boy
[01:50] <nivyaj> urlin2u: I cleared all the partitions on it.
[01:50] <scott__> if u can call a 23-year-old a boy :)
[01:50] <ag> somsip: i can see php5 install
[01:50] <somsip> ag: how long ago did you install it?
[01:50] <urlin2u> nivyaj, cool do you understand my post?
[01:51] <nivyaj> no.
[01:51] <nivyaj> :(
[01:51] <varun_> varu
[01:51] <ag> somsip: last night
[01:51] <jagjr> Anyone?
[01:51] <urlin2u> nivyaj, so you have which windows release?
[01:51] <nivyaj> vista 64
[01:51] <artichoku> are there any base64 decodes for ubuntu?
[01:52] <somsip> ag: this is a very long winded way of trying to find out where php.ini is, but maybe you need to 'sudo updatedb' and then 'locate php.ini' again
[01:52] <Guest41698> i am with this problem not::E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:52] <urlin2u> nivyaj, you know how to do a custom install of it so the main partition is the size you want so you have unallocated space for ubuntu?
[01:52] <urlin2u> nivyaj, vista that is
[01:53] <dagerik> I need to print all .c files. Why does this fail: ls *.c  ?
[01:54] <nivyaj> urlin2u:  that's actually an issue. the HD is 300 GB- so I wanted to partition it in a way to not lose space.
[01:54] <fluffman> is there a way to revert to kernel 3.0.0-15.25
[01:55] <nivyaj> urlin2u: I was going to do 150 GB for windows (and windows programs), 90 for ubuntu and programs and the remainder for back-up
[01:55] <fluffman> computer just upgraded to 3.0.0-15.26 and it sucks
[01:56] <urlin2u> nivyaj,  I see, you know how to install vista so it is that size on install from the vista partitioning gui?
[01:56] <ag> somsip: it show that is at /etc/php5/apache2filter/php.ini and /etc/php5/cgi/php.ini and /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
[01:57] <somsip> ag: so 'sudo nano  /etc/php5/apache2filter/php.ini" should get you to where you wanted to be originally
[01:57] <jagjr> Ubuntu 10.04 and Backtrack 5 R1 won't recognise my Hardrive - It's got windows 7 on it but it saying it's empty
[01:57] <jagjr> It's saying it's unallocated space atm
[01:57] <urlin2u> nivyaj, you might just get on the #windows channel for tat part really, I can't really explain all of its installation on this channel.
[01:57] <nivyaj>  urlin2u : no.
[01:57] <Dr-Willis> Guest41698:  make sure all other package manager tools are closed.
[01:57] <urlin2u> that#
[01:57] <trism> fluffman: there is only one change from .25 to .26 and it shouldn't mess with anything
[01:58] <urlin2u> !backtrack > jagjr
[01:58] <acerimmer> jagjr: saw this the other night.  YOur ubuntu is 11.10??
[01:59] <fluffman> trism: I had a lot of hacks on my x220 and now I'm getting graphical glitches and half the battery life
[01:59] <goddard> how can i take a picture of just some part that i select?
[01:59] <jagjr> nope 10.04
[01:59] <melkor> What dev package do I need for opengl headers?
[01:59] <acerimmer> jagjr: ok.  first, did you md5sum your iso??
[01:59] <jagjr> urlin2u - Ive tried ubuntu first, no success, then BT ... still none.. so it's an ubuntu issue
[02:00] <jagjr> yes
[02:00] <jagjr> acerimmer yes
[02:00] <acerimmer> jagjr: your partitions are invisible on installation or on liveboot??
[02:00] <urlin2u> jagjr, if your trying to fix ubuntu cool but anything backtrack is not supported is all, I don't make the rules but you will get no help for it here is all just saying. :D
[02:01] <goddard> how can i take a picture of just some part that i select?
[02:01] <jagjr> acerimmer: on liveboot . Ive tried to install but it just says unallocated space
[02:01] <acerimmer> jagjr: confirm: you DO see our partitions on live boot??
[02:02] <jagjr> acerimmer: no
[02:03] <acerimmer> jagjr: suggestion: install via text mode  - little more work but more control.
[02:03] <jagjr> acerimmer: Any reason why it's not recognising my hardrive then? Id like to fix the problem than avoid it
[02:04] <fluffman> trism: thanks. looked back through my logs and found an xorg update as well. I'll try to revert that
[02:04] <acerimmer> jagjr: in 11.10, the gui partition manager didn't see it, but it was visible under gpartd.  Why?  idk.
[02:05] <jagjr> acerimmer : Gparted can't see it aswell
[02:05] <Raymond_>  a tar.bz2 is a archive that i extract then compress and install into ubuntu?
[02:05] <jagjr> acerimmer : Just shows unallocated space with a warning triangle
[02:05] <acerimmer> jagjr: wait i DO remember - it was bcz the HDD had been partiitioned as GPT at some point.
[02:05] <petman> hi, is it possible with apt-get to select a path to install to?  i.e.  apt-get install -p /media/mountpoint/ <packagename>?
[02:06] <Raymond_> has anybody made a program that can convert a tar.bz2 to a .deb file
[02:06] <jagjr> acerimmer: Ive never partitioned my hardrive since ive got it? :L
[02:06] <DasEi> !packaging | Raymond_
[02:07] <acerimmer> jagjr: wait one - looking up the command
[02:07] <DasEi> Raymond_: by the way, what are you missing (concerning earlier qestion about compiling) ?
[02:08] <wolter> does dbus monitor disc insertions?
[02:08] <Raymond_> dasei, what i am trying to do is ./configure, make, make install a tar.bz2, its a driver for the wireless device
[02:09] <DasEi> Raymond_: ah, I see
[02:09] <wolter> Raymond_, make sure it is compatible before installing!
[02:10] <acerimmer> jagjr: sudo fdisk -l should show all partition information.  paste plz
[02:10] <Raymond_> dasei, the directions are confusing to me on this site, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[02:11] <DasEi> Raymond_: so before we go there,which chip is it ?
[02:11] <jagjr> acerimmer: unable to seek on /dev/sda
[02:11] <acerimmer> jagjr: are you in sudo ?
[02:11] <Raymond_> dasei, a broadcom 4306/3
[02:11] <jagjr> acerimmer: yes
[02:12] <DasEi> Raymond_: sec, I try tofind it
[02:12] <acerimmer> jagjr: df -H
[02:12] <Raymond_> dasei, i have tried b43fwcutter and firmwareb43installer, didnt work
[02:13] <jagjr> acerimmer: http://pastebin.com/vt2Dv5ZZ
[02:14] <acerimmer> jagjr: ok that's your live cd/dvd get the /dev info for your HDD and run the command with that
[02:15] <jagjr> acerimmer: what do you mean?
[02:16] <acerimmer> jagjr: if you're still in live boot, look at system>administration>disk utility
[02:16] <wolter> does dbus monitor disc insertions?
[02:16] <jagjr> acerimmer: my disk is there - just not on the installer
[02:17] <acerimmer> jagjr: print scrn and paste
[02:17] <DasEi> Raymond_: listed as supported, solet's again do the steps from
[02:17] <DasEi> !broadcom
[02:18] <Jordan_U> jagjr: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[02:18] <jagjr> Jordan_U invalid argument during seek for read on /dev/sda
[02:19] <acerimmer> Jordan_U: my theory is that his HD may be gpt partitioned...
[02:19] <DasEi> Raymond_: which distro are youusing?
[02:19] <Raymond_> dasei, natty, 10.04 LTS
[02:19] <Jordan_U> jagjr: Is sda the drive in question? Is there no other output?
[02:19] <jagjr> acerimmer: http://i42.tinypic.com/1568eoi.png
[02:20] <jagjr> Jordan_U : Yes , Thats my main drive
[02:20] <xangua> Raymond_: natty is not lts
[02:20] <jagjr> Jordan_U : My Only Drive
[02:20] <DasEi> Raymond_: restricted repository available?
[02:20] <ag> somsip: it really work!!! Thanks a Lot! I found the file and i was able to edit it. Thanks again
[02:20] <somsip> ag: jolly good :)
[02:20] <Raymond_> xangua, its 10.04 LTS
[02:20] <oguz> good night
[02:21] <DasEi> Raymond_: lsb_release -a in terminal gives correct name
[02:21] <DasEi> Raymond_: 10.04 would be lucid
[02:21] <acerimmer> jagjr: jordan_u Disk Utility shows the Windows partition 250G
[02:21] <Raymond_> dasei, ah yes, i was using natty before
[02:22] <DasEi> lucid so, fine,are the restricted repos in use ?
[02:22] <jagjr> Jordan_u: http://i42.tinypic.com/1568eoi.png
[02:22] <ag> somsip: I really like ubuntu. I'm hoping learning more.
[02:22] <acerimmer> jagjr: *facepalm* the unallocated area is the empty area for your new ubuntu partition.
[02:23] <Raymond_> dasei, i dont know what you mean
[02:23] <DasEi> Raymond_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,  make sure the lines with restricted in it don't start with an #
[02:23] <jagjr> acerimmer: erm.... No...  My entire HDD is 241GB Windows takes 200GB - I have 30GB free on Windows
[02:24] <flowerpot> In /etc/init.d/skeleton, there is the line [ -r /etc/default/$NAME ] && . /etc/default/$NAME which is described as "# Read configuration variable file if it is present" -- what does the . after the && mean?
[02:24] <Raymond_> dasei, the wireless device doesnt come on when i boot into ubuntu..all right be right back
[02:24] <acerimmer> jagjr: have you sized that windows partition to 30g's already??
[02:25] <acerimmer> jagjr: rephrase have you resized your windows partition??
[02:26] <jagjr> acerimmer: no - there is 30Gb left as free space on windows
[02:26] <Jordan_U> jagjr: Is this drive, or has it ever been, part of a raid array?
[02:26] <jagjr> jordan_U: No - It's a laptop
[02:27] <Jordan_U> jagjr: That's a
[02:27] <Jordan_U> jagjr: ... That's a very odd error.
[02:28] <jagjr> Jordan_U : Your Telling me, Ive been struggling for the past week -_-
[02:28] <acerimmer> Jordan_U: what if he resized a windows partition in live boot and installed ubuntu to the new part?
[02:30] <Nimanicka> No 4 ACTA
[02:30] <cak3> does anyone know where I can go to get some help with photoshop?
[02:31] <acerimmer> cak3: adobe.com
[02:31] <jagjr> acerimmer: jordan_u : I can View my drive in Disk utility, just not Gparted or Ubuntu Install?
[02:31] <Nimanicka> Try ps #
[02:32] <acerimmer> jagjr: this issue in 10.04 is new to me.  sorry idk
[02:32] <jagjr> Anyone Else?
[02:32] <cak3> acerimmer: Not the website, they wont give me tutorials. thanks though
[02:33] <cak3> anyone else?
[02:34] <XrD> cak3: have you tried Google? "Photoshop tutorials" or anything of the sort..?
[02:34] <jagjr> just got loads of updates through -_- some for apsci
[02:36] <cak3> XrD: it is a specific thing I am looking for, and yes I have tried. I need to convert over 100 photos to 24-bit bmp.
[02:37] <cak3> sorry for the delay in the reply
[02:37] <acerimmer> !imagemagick|cak3
[02:37] <acerimmer> cak3: imagemagick
[02:37] <cak3> thank you
[02:38] <acerimmer> jagjr: your in live boot.  no updates will stick
[02:38] <jagjr> acerimmer: But they could fix it that i can install :)
[02:42] <auk> What command can I run to find out my current Display/X manager?
[02:43] <acerimmer> jagjr: suggest you reboot, F6 and install via text only.  if your partitions show up, you're good to go.
[02:43] <Nach0z> auk: xset -q might work
[02:43] <Nach0z> or Ibyss, try xset -q
[02:45] <Nach0z> Ibyss: if that don't work, 'export DISPLAY=":0.0" && xdpyinfo'
[02:46] <Raymond_> dasei, no lsb mods avail. and the second showed nothing
[02:46] <Ibyss> I was hoping to see info on the whole gmd/lightdm thing.
[02:46] <DasEi> Raymond_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,  make sure the lines with restricted in it don't start with an #
[02:46] <kfizz> Under the hardware tab in the sound preferences, there's an option for "Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output." Does this use a standard 3.5mm jack or is this just listed in case I had a special jack like SPDIF?
[02:46] <Ibyss> I guess I used wrong terminology to describe it. xD
[02:47] <Raymond_> dasei, does it open getit?
[02:47] <Raymond_> gedit
[02:47] <DasEi> yes, see
[02:47] <DasEi> !repo
[02:48] <DasEi> Raymond_: in the sources list you tell ubuntu where to lookfor software, lines beginning with an '#' are read as comment and won't be processed
[02:51] <DasEi> errr..
[02:53] <mister_m> how do I make the nivdea settings manager not screw things up for me when I put in a second monitor
[02:53] <Nimanicka> What is canonical position aboute : sopa / acta ?
[02:53] <moosiecak> Would anyone be able to offer some help regarding a wubi install through windows 7 that keeps spitting out a log file and Not installing?
[02:54] <Nimanicka> !sopa
[02:54] <Flannel> Nimanicka: That's offtopic for this channel, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[02:56] <urlin2u> moosiecakes, you might try the ubuntu forums tere are a couple of people there that might know.
[02:56] <zabomber> how do i lock the side panel in 11.10?
[02:56] <Nimanicka> Hmm a freedom is of top ? Qewl story bro . Hope t dont wake up In orson's reality
[02:56] <urlin2u> there*
[02:56] <zabomber> so that it doesnt autohide
[02:56] <moosiecakes> alright, thanks
[02:57] <urlin2u> zabomber, install the compizconfig settings manager it is in the unuty plugin
[02:57] <mafatahna> @zabomber, don't can klik right lock?
[02:57] <urlin2u> unity*
[02:58] <mafatahna> i am sorry, i still use 10.04 :D
[02:58] <urlin2u> mafatahna, if you tab the nic after a few letters it will auto complete
[02:58] <ParkerR> Is there a way to have Ubuntu remember elevated privileges per session like debian?
[03:00] <Ibyss> ParkerR: I thought that's the point of sudo... To later forget for security reason.   If you want to be in root forever, run: sudo su
[03:00] <mafatahna> urlin2u, ok..
[03:00] <Ibyss> ParkerR: Then to leave root, run: exit
[03:01] <urlin2u> mafatahna, not sure if the @ notifies the nic your pinging. :D
[03:01] <Ibyss> mafatahna: Why? o_O
[03:01] <ParkerR> Ibyss, I understand that. What I was thinking was like for when apps want elevated privileges like synaptic and such
[03:01] <mafatahna> urlin2u, hehe.. ok :D
[03:02] <urlin2u> ParkerR, you don't want synaptic elevated.
[03:02] <urlin2u> all the time
[03:02] <ParkerR> urlin2u, I was gonna say XD
[03:02] <ParkerR> Wb almoxarife
[03:03] <Ibyss> synaptic is something I never leave open, or ever use. I use Ubuntu's/mint's easier package manager. :3
[03:03] <Ibyss> But I do not even use that, I prefer commandline apt-get
[03:03] <Bikerbob> anyone help why my make is not working? http://paste.ubuntu.com/816082/
[03:04] <Bikerbob> headers and essential s are upto date and installed.
[03:04] <Bikerbob> but I cant get past this error and I cant figure out why
[03:04] <jnylen> Bikerbob: google the key error message
[03:04] <ParkerR> Ibyss, I find when debugging packages having the search functionality of synaptic helps
[03:04] <jnylen> which is:  implicit declaration of function ‘init_MUTEX’
[03:05] <Ibyss> Ah, yea, then again, I never get into any bugs involving those, but I once got into dependancy hell).                Most of my fixes were:         apt-get -f install
[03:05] <ParkerR> luciferclinton, So you have an evil guy and the devil? XD
[03:06] <jnylen> and in that order?!?
[03:06] <ParkerR> jnylen, Technically reverse order XD
[03:06] <ParkerR> Was trying to make a joke XD
[03:06] <luciferclinton> lucifer = hillary
[03:06] <artichoku> sup ppl
[03:06] <jnylen> lol
[03:06] <ParkerR> luciferclinton, Hehe
[03:07] <urlin2u> ot topic and sexism how becoming
[03:08] <jnylen> what are you, a woman
[03:08] <urlin2u> jnylen, no
[03:09] <Bikerbob> tried..  jnylen, but not sure I understand..
[03:09] <Bikerbob> So there is something I am missing in the kernel that will allow this build?
[03:09] <jnylen> Bikerbob: the third link, when you google that string
[03:10] <jnylen> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/frandalla-68463/patching-802-11-linux-sta-driver-for-kernel-2-6-37-3558/
[03:10] <jnylen> indicates that you need to change all instances of init_MUTEX to sema_init, and add a second parameter
[03:11] <jnylen> and, if you want to be super nice and helpful, you could submit this as a patch back to the original project
[03:11] <linocisco> hello
[03:12] <linocisco> how to install VZO chat software on ubuntu?
[03:13] <acerimmer> !wine|linocisco
[03:13] <DasEi> linocisco: never heard of it,is it a client ?
[03:13] <acerimmer> linocisco: wine might work.
[03:14] <Bikerbob> thanks for that jnylen, is a Realtek 8176 a broadcom ?? I thought Realtek was its own chipset?
[03:14] <jnylen> Bikerbob: it's certainly plausible that other drivers would have the same issue
[03:14] <em> what is the most recent version of Ubuntu?
[03:14] <DasEi> Bikerbob: no it's a realtek
[03:14] <urlin2u> 11.10
[03:14] <Bikerbob> ok.. so then I am no further ahead then.
[03:14] <em> urlin2u: you think its a good one?
[03:14] <jnylen> Bikerbob: not true, same issue
[03:15] <linocisco> DasEi: www.vzochat.com
[03:15] <DasEi> thanks
[03:15] <urlin2u> em, sure, depends on your needs you familiar with the unity or gnome 3 desktop.
[03:15] <linocisco> DasEi: it is lighter than skype and all other webcam chat application
[03:16] <linocisco> DasEi: work with lesser internet bandwidth
[03:16] <urlin2u> em, lots of other desktops though.
[03:16] <DasEi> linocisco: fyi,pidgin in conjunction with gmail also allows video-chat, though I can't tell about it's footprint
[03:16] <Bikerbob> so try and open and modify the script I have ?? ok.. can look anyway
[03:17] <linocisco> DasEi: what is the meaning of footprint?
[03:17] <DasEi> linocisco: how much ressource it takes
[03:17] <DasEi> linocisco: as in lighteror heavier
[03:18] <linocisco> DasEi: thanks
[03:19] <linocisco> Dear all, I have never been successful using IRC clients to use #ubuntu or other channels in my network
[03:19] <linocisco> that is why , I am to use only webchat.freenode.net
[03:19] <linocisco> could anybody suggest me?
[03:20] <urlin2u> linocisco, what?
[03:21] <zabomber> linocisco: smuxi works perfectly
[03:21] <zabomber> its a client for IRC int he repo
[03:21] <urlin2u> linocisco, you tried xchat I think it is fedora
[03:21] <urlin2u> in*
[03:22] <linocisco> I am sorry. I am now on windows XP. I want to use the one which is working on both linux and windows. Is pidgin ok for that?
[03:23] <Lucain1181> hi
[03:23] <XrD> hi
[03:25] <urlin2u> linocisco, pidgin will run in both never used it though.
[03:25] <linocisco> urlin2u: thanks
[03:25] <linocisco> urlin2u:  to use web in our office network, I need to point proxy server and port + authentication(username/password)
[03:25] <Ibyss> linocisco: Open up Xchat,     and configure server, add  irc.freenode.org             Set port number to 6667            Then connect.            Or simply type: /server irc.freenode.org
[03:25] <urlin2u> linocisco, sure, I see downloads for both anyway.
[03:26] <linocisco> urlin2u: though I have tried entering correct settings, I was never able to connect and use IRC on client
[03:27] <urlin2u> linocisco, could be a block from the office netork, not sure really
[03:27] <urlin2u> network
[03:28] <DasEi> linocisco: yes, pidgin is for xp available, too
[03:29] <DeviceZer0> anyone running fluxbox? Trying to figure out how I can get all my applications to show up in the menu
[03:30] <urlin2u> DeviceZer0, been awhile but I think you have to add them.
[03:30] <DeviceZer0> urlin2u, ...by hand?
[03:30] <DeviceZer0> please dont say by hand lol
[03:30] <urlin2u> DeviceZer0, I believe so, forget how.
[03:30] <DeviceZer0> cuz yea. no f'in way ill be adding each app by hand then manually doing that each time I install something lol.
[03:30] <DeviceZer0> wow.
[03:31] <DeviceZer0> think that'll be a deal breaker for me hehe
[03:31] <urlin2u> DeviceZer0, just the location of the bin to a menu line.
[03:31] <PatrickC> hmm.. im getting an error when trying to use adobe air
[03:31] <urlin2u> DeviceZer0, look for better advice though I could be wrong.
[03:32] <PatrickC> it tells me to make sure that gnome-keyring or kwallet are installed
[03:32] <DeviceZer0> yea. I've come to the conclusion....if its not done automatically....chances of me doing it are slim to none lol
[03:32] <PatrickC> when i ran sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring it told me that it was already installed
[03:33] <defrancisco2> hello
[03:33] <fongweekim> Hi everyone, I need help with Ubuntu 11.11 installation. I had installed it on Acer Aspire 5680. Ubuntu was working well until these 2 new problems developed
[03:34] <DeviceZer0> urlin2u, yea. apprecaite the help....but it seems you may be more or less correct. There seems some hacky 3rd party tools exist...but...yea.....this is 2012 lol...no end user should be having to manually create their own menus...perhaps customizing them...but no user needs to create a whol emenu from scratch
[03:34] <fongweekim> 1) The delete button on my keyboard no longer works. It was working well previously until 3 days ago
[03:34] <DeviceZer0> god I hate gnome3
[03:34] <DeviceZer0> and all its ruined
[03:34] <DeviceZer0> :<
[03:34] <PatrickC> i dont even use gnome anymore (afaik)
[03:34] <PatrickC> i use cinnamon
[03:35] <PatrickC> (not sure which graphics engine its based off of)
[03:35] <fongweekim> 2) On startup, the bios gave an alarm (long didididi sound) and then I need to press Esc to get past it. After which, there are no problems. Anyone knows where is the problem
[03:35] <urlin2u> PatrickC, looks like the fallback on ubuntu.
[03:35] <urlin2u> PatrickC, gnome 2 1/2
[03:36] <PatrickC> but the one thing i dont get with it is why would air be erroring out saying i need gnome-keyring when i have it..?
[03:36] <dies_irae> how to chmod something to be useful for ALL users??
[03:36] <dies_irae> something shared? how to chmod it?
[03:36] <Bikerbob> I am not savy enough to know what the equiv change is in my file jnylen
[03:36] <dies_irae> chmod 666 -R ??
[03:36] <Bikerbob> I tried and it did not work
[03:37] <jnylen> Bikerbob: what did you try?  you changed what to what?
[03:37] <helo1> How do I get static DNS entries to stick in my resolve.conf? It keeps going back to "# Generated by NetworkManager" and then can't resolve anything.
[03:37] <jnylen> helo1: static DNS entries go in /etc/hosts
[03:37] <urlin2u> helo1, I set that in my router myself
[03:37] <Bikerbob> changed init_MUTEX to sema_init
[03:37] <jnylen> unless you are talking about forcing dns servers
[03:37] <jnylen> Bikerbob: you also have to add a second parameter
[03:38] <helo1> Not static entries. Static DNS servers.
[03:38] <artichoku> heyyy patrickc!
[03:38] <artichoku> a name i recognize tonight
[03:38] <jnylen> so,  init_MUTEX(whatever);  becomes  sema_init(whatever, 1);
[03:38] <PatrickC> hey artichoku
[03:38] <artichoku> doooood
[03:38] <Bikerbob> what second parameter.. since the init_MUTEX had no second
[03:38] <PatrickC> artichoku, mind if i ask why you recognize the name? :)
[03:38] <Bikerbob> ,1
[03:38] <Bikerbob> ok
[03:38]  * PatrickC doesnt remember your nick
[03:38] <dies_irae> DNS info goes into /etc/resolv.conf
[03:38] <PatrickC> sorry :)
[03:38] <jnylen> helo1: there is some other file you need to edit
[03:39] <jnylen> h/o, trying to find it
[03:39] <artichoku> because it's a real name
[03:39] <artichoku> not your runofthemill handle
[03:39] <helo1> dies_irae: It always changes back to "# Generated by NetworkManager"
[03:39] <artichoku> and we've goofed off a bit in here
[03:39] <PatrickC> hmm?
[03:39] <artichoku> i'm pretty new
[03:39] <PatrickC> dont remember that.. lol
[03:39] <helo1> jnylen: searches all say the resolv.conf Any ideas?
[03:39] <Bikerbob> so I have some idea of what I did.. what does the ,1 do jynlen
[03:40] <artichoku> i've been having fun with a wannabe blackhat failz0r
[03:40] <artichoku> it's been a good night
[03:40] <jnylen> helo1: can you not set that setting in NetworkManager
[03:40] <jnylen> I forget, I ripped it out because it was pissing me off
[03:40] <helo1> jnylen: how do I do that from ssh/cli?
[03:41] <Bikerbob> so I have some idea of what I did.. what does the ,1 do jnylen
[03:41] <jnylen> Bikerbob: I am not entirely sure
[03:42] <jnylen> it's just an extra parameter that sema_init needs but that init_MUTEX doesn't have
[03:42] <jnylen> helo1: I can't seem to find that information
[03:42] <artichoku> bikerbob i'm sorry to admit i laughed at your name a sec
[03:42] <artichoku> i thought it said bikerboob
[03:43] <jnylen> aha
[03:43] <jnylen> helo1: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[03:43] <em> is natty an LTS?
[03:44] <jnylen> helo1: there's a line that says prepend domain-name-servers - uncomment it and change the IP address(es)
[03:44] <somsip> !lts | em
[03:44] <urlin2u> em, no 10.04 and 12.04 are though
[03:44] <jnylen> !Natty
[03:45] <helo1> jnylen: that file doesn't exist on my system. the directory is empty
[03:45] <urlin2u> em, 12.04 is in development though.
[03:45] <jnylen> helo1: ubuntu? what version?
[03:45] <em> 12.04 comes out in April huh?
[03:46] <dies_irae> em: yep, unless there is a worlwide catastrophe.
[03:46] <jnylen> s/unless/when
[03:46]  * PatrickC is running 12.04 now
[03:46] <jnylen> 12.04 will be out and probably 12.10
[03:46] <jnylen> but not 13.04
[03:47] <helo1> jnylen: Ubuntu 11.10 generic
[03:47] <dies_irae> ouch!!
[03:47] <dagerik> Is nano a fine editor for programming?
[03:47] <jnylen> dagerik: not really, you should learn vim or emacs
[03:47] <PatrickC> nano is cool for command line editing IMO
[03:47] <dies_irae> jnylen: that sounds horrible!!
[03:47] <cthompson> dagerik, no, use vi improved
[03:47] <cthompson> dagerik, or are you just trolling cause the question is a bit silly
[03:47] <PatrickC> i just like plain old text editors
[03:47] <dies_irae> vim the way to go
[03:48] <helo1> I like nano :)
[03:48] <PatrickC> i prefer gedit/kate :)
[03:48] <jnylen> joe is pretty good too, good features but not a huge learning curve like vim
[03:48] <cthompson> kate has some nice plugins, but thats not cli
[03:48] <Cyberspaceloa> huge fan of ViM
[03:48] <dies_irae> dagerik: cat > foo  <--- another way
[03:48] <PatrickC> cthompson, i know :)
[03:48] <Cyberspaceloa> it's super quick for coding
[03:48] <cthompson> didn't say you didn't PatrickC
[03:49] <PatrickC> cthompson, i prefer to use the terminal for commands only
[03:49] <dies_irae> nano is weird as hell
[03:49] <PatrickC> i like full editors
[03:49] <cthompson> ahh... see I like vi or vim. not much use for anything else
[03:49] <linocisco> cthompson: use nano
[03:49] <jnylen> helo1: i'm not sure why that would be
[03:50] <dies_irae> if nothing else works there's always m$$$ word
[03:50] <jnylen> on my system, that file comes from package dhcp3-client; do you have that package installed? how about dhcp-client?
[03:50] <cthompson> gross linocisco
[03:50]  * jnylen /kick dies_irae
[03:50] <PatrickC> dies_irae, how dare you mention that horrible excuse for a program
[03:51] <fongweekim> Sorry can anyone help with my keyboard issue whereby Ubuntu can't detect my Del button on Acer Aspire 5680? Or give idea how to resolve whether it is a hardware or software issue
[03:51]  * OficjalnyDaZ reinvites dies_irae
[03:51] <jnylen> fongweekim: sounds like a hardware issue
[03:51] <Bikerbob> well that did it.. going to reboot see if I have wifi
[03:51] <cthompson> lol
[03:51]  * dies_irae run before getting tied to a pole and burned in a pyre
[03:51] <jnylen> but you could try going to the real console (ctrl+alt+f1) log in and see if it works there
[03:51] <Bikerbob> thanks jnylen
[03:51] <jnylen> Bikerbob: you shouldn't really need to reboot
[03:51] <fongweekim> Thanks jnylen. How to test it conclusively
[03:51] <jnylen> you're welcome
[03:52] <chromaticwt> does dell still sell ubuntu with laptops?
[03:52] <dr_willis> fongweekim:  does it work as a backspace?
[03:52] <PatrickC> never knew they did
[03:52] <Bikerbob> how do I test.. just do a lsusb now?
[03:52] <jnylen> Bikerbob: sudo insmod output.ko
[03:52] <jnylen> where output.ko is the kernel module that you built
[03:52] <dies_irae> fongweekim: which key?
[03:52] <fongweekim> dr willis: it does nothing at all. Del key
[03:52] <Bikerbob> i did a make install
[03:52] <dies_irae> use xev to find out the keycode the do some concotion.
[03:52] <Bikerbob> its built into the kernel now right?
[03:52] <jnylen> Bikerbob: oh, maybe that did take care of it then
[03:53] <jnylen> not sure, depends on how they set it up but probably
[03:53] <dies_irae> oh delete key?? not a multimedia key or laptop specific key?
[03:53] <fongweekim> dies_irae: Its the Del key.
[03:53] <michaelgamble> hey
[03:53] <shovell> anyone here had problems playing startrek armada 2 using wine?
[03:53] <Bikerbob> hmm not there in an lsmod
[03:53] <jnylen> fongweekim: yeah try going to the real console
[03:53] <michaelgamble> is their a command i can run in linux to tell if a flavour is in fact ubuntu and what version?
[03:54] <jnylen> Bikerbob: do this from the source code folder: find -iname '*.ko'
[03:54] <jnylen> any results?
[03:54] <dies_irae> shovell: try #wine
[03:54] <fongweekim> Sorry jnylen. I don't get you. am a complete noob. Just switched over
[03:54] <dies_irae> fongweekim: that sounds messed up
[03:54] <shovell> ill check but i think it might be a problem in ubuntu
[03:54] <jnylen> fongweekim: press ctrl+alt+f1, then log in -- you'll want to know how to get back to the graphical environment -- that's alt+f7 or alt+f8
[03:55] <fongweekim> Yes. It's rather painful to work with only the backspace
[03:55] <OficjalnyDaZ> michaelgamble: cat /etc/issue?
[03:55] <jnylen> fongweekim: if it doesn't work in text-only mode then it's a hardware problem
[03:55] <fongweekim> Thanks Jnylen. Will try it out
[03:55] <Bikerbob> ./8192cu.ko
[03:55]  * dies_irae realizes never uses del key
[03:56] <dr_willis> cant say i even use the del key much
[03:56] <jnylen> Bikerbob: sudo insmod 8192cu.ko
[03:56] <shovell> dies_irae, i belive id is a problem with ubuntu
[03:56] <dies_irae> fongweekim: run xev program then type del key
[03:56] <dr_willis> ctrl-h is del or backspace... i recall
[03:56] <jnylen> ctrl+h = backspace
[03:56] <dr_willis> old skool
[03:57] <dies_irae> not even xev picks it up?
[03:57] <Bikerbob> AWSOME!
[03:57] <Bikerbob> thanks again jnylen
[03:57] <jnylen> n/p
[03:57] <Bikerbob> I would never have known about the ,1
[03:57] <jnylen> Bikerbob: I just googled it - I've seen similar stuff before
[03:57] <jnylen> read that forum post again and see if you can spot it
[03:57] <dies_irae> ha ha cool ctrl+h
[03:58] <dies_irae> there's also ctrl+w and ctrl+u
[03:58] <dies_irae> fongweekim: there u go no need for del key :D
[03:59] <michaelgamble> it says Debian GNU/Linux 5.0
[03:59] <Juv1228> hi, just got ubuntu 11.10 installed on my new rig, and im having some audio buzzing problems
[03:59] <DaZ> then it's probably debian gnu/linux 5.0 :x
[04:00] <linocisco> which tablet has durable battery life and good to use?
[04:00] <Juv1228> lspci doesnt show my alc892, which is the onboard
[04:00] <moz`deph> Juv1228: that's Natty Narwhal right?
[04:01] <Juv1228> only shows an "Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller"
[04:01] <Juv1228> moz`deph, oneiric
[04:01] <Juv1228> natty is 11.04
[04:02] <oconnore__> Hi, I recently installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop, and now it's won't boot (stuck on the initial boot animation). Any ideas?
[04:02] <Bikerbob> here on wifi.. nice
[04:03] <dies_irae> oconnore__: what sort of ideas??
[04:03] <dagerik> hah, I was on irc from a plane last year
[04:03] <Juv1228> oconnore__, for what its worth, i had a similar issue with some VM's once
[04:03] <fongweekim> thanks everyone
[04:03] <oconnore__> dies_irae: well, preferably ones that resulted in me being able to use my laptop again
[04:03] <Juv1228> check your kernel boot args in grub
[04:04] <oconnore__> Juv1228: what should I be looking for? It's just a stock install.
[04:04] <oconnore__> And it worked for about a week before it suddenly stopped booting.
[04:04] <dies_irae> oconnore__: boot in text mode, check where stuck, problemo solved.
[04:04] <Juv1228> in that case it probably isnt it, mine was an issue with the d-i
[04:04] <oconnore__> dies_irae: It doesn't make it that far, the kernel is not booting
[04:04] <Juv1228> yes it is
[04:05] <Juv1228> if you can get to grub, you can boot in text mode
[04:05] <[[thufir]]> last time when I upgraded, I didn't have to edit fstab.  why now?  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1460901
[04:05] <Azelphur> Anyone know how I can give a specific user permissions to set a processes niceness without sudo?
[04:05] <oconnore__> Juv1228: eh, I hit alt-f1 and there is no output
[04:05] <oconnore__> i'll try text mode specifically
[04:05] <dies_irae> oconnore__: I am pretty sure is going somewhere
[04:07] <dies_irae> oconnore__: I am note sure in ubuntu but something like this, in grub type ESC then pick text mode. Or if that's not an opiton type E in the first line the add some text mode to kernel optinos
[04:10] <malikmasr> can someone please help me trouble shoot my l2tpd vpn, it refuses to connect, and i have no idea why
[04:12] <jnylen> Azelphur: define a sudoers rule
[04:12] <Azelphur> jnylen: isn't there a group the user can be added to to be allowed to set a processes niceness?
[04:12] <jnylen> they will still use sudo, but they will only be allowed to execute a very limited set of commands
[04:12] <oconnore__> dies_irae: wow, good call. I thought alt-f1 to escape the splash would show me the same thing... It was trying to automount an ecryptfs and the password prompt was hidden. Stupido
[04:12] <jnylen> Azelphur: maybe, I'm not aware of one
[04:13] <Azelphur> *shrug*
[04:13] <dies_irae> oconnore__: glad that worked. I've been booting into text mode since ever, so that's the first thing to do that came to mind.
[04:13] <fongweekim> Thanks jnylen for your help
[04:14] <jnylen> fongweekim: any progress?
[04:15] <dcplaya> anyone know why when I remote desktop into my 11.10 ubuntu PC, there isnt any way to run apps via gui?
[04:15] <gh0zt> has anyone gotten the linksys AE 2500 to work with ubuntu 11.10 x64?
[04:17] <rasta1> holaaaaa
[04:18] <shaneo> does anyone know where ubuntu tweak stores the backups it creates using deesktop recovery
[04:19] <Mariorocks0099> Hello ubuntu users!
[04:20] <Mariorocks0099> I am installing ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop computer tomorrow.. it is a Compaq Presario S4020WM..
[04:21] <DaZ> why not something newer than 10.10? :x
[04:21] <Mariorocks0099> here is a lot more info about the computer http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=326832    I am wondering.. Since the live CD works correctly should the operating system  install correctly?
[04:24] <FastPutty> how can i reconfigure my.cnf in mysql torught apt-get
[04:24] <FastPutty> mysql server doesnt want to start anymore after upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04
[04:24] <shaneo> 12.04 is in beta
[04:25] <shaneo> 11.10 is latest stable
[04:25] <Mariorocks0099> answer my question! :p
[04:25] <FastPutty> how  can i resinatlla  package then?
[04:28] <Mariorocks0099> !help
[04:28] <rasta1> holaaaaa
[04:28] <Mariorocks0099> answer my question  should ubuntu install if the live CD works on the computer?
[04:29] <gardar> Mariorocks0099: yes, running off livecd is slow
[04:29] <urlin2u> Mariorocks0099, whats going on/
[04:29] <urlin2u> ?
[04:29] <gardar> having ubuntu installed is much faster
[04:29] <Mariorocks0099> I'm planning to install ubuntu.  since winXP is giving errors...
[04:29] <Mariorocks0099> the live CD works
[04:30] <Mariorocks0099> i am wanting to know will ubuntu install correctly on the old 2003 computer?
[04:30] <pangolin> Mariorocks0099: if everything is working in live cd then yes.
[04:30] <gardar> Mariorocks0099: if the livecd works perfectly, then there is no reason why it shouldn't work once installed
[04:30] <cyanideillusions> yo
[04:32] <Mariorocks0099> ok thanks for the help :)
[04:33] <Mariorocks0099> it will be good to get away from winXP's windows file protection  windows files are missing popups
[04:35] <Mariorocks0099> sometimes but very rarely on the live CD i get busybox thingy..
[04:36] <Mariorocks0099> what is busybox screen thingy  anyways?
[04:38] <yabai_> Uptime
[04:41] <linocisco> hi
[04:42] <rasta1> holaaaaaa
[04:42] <ariane5> hi
[04:42] <Guest64698> hello is there an ubuntu equivalent to windirstat? and program that vissualizes all the space u are using up on ur harddrive and sorts it into what kinda of file it is
[04:42] <rasta1> alguien habla español
[04:42] <ariane5> im from poland
[04:42] <ariane5> i speak english
[04:43] <ariane5> acta close wikipedia ?
[04:43] <Flannel> Guest64698: try baobab
[04:43] <rasta1> entiendo muy poco el ingles
[04:43] <Flannel> !es | rasta1
[04:45] <urlin2u> ariane5, on here.
[04:45] <doug___> what the difference between gnome and x11
[04:45] <doug___> ?
[04:46] <aszurom> doug - x11 is the graphical desktop system, and gnome is a window manager that runs on top of that
[04:47] <aszurom> gnome, kde, enlightenment, etc all rely on the common x11 stuff
[04:48] <doug___> i just installed ubuntu server I'm having fun with the ssh - but is it possible to get a GUI windows with it
[04:48] <doug___> ?
[04:48] <SeaPhor> yes
[04:48] <dwon> doug___: run tasksel (as root)
[04:48] <doug___> i tried several whay
[04:48] <doug___> ways
[04:49] <doug___> thanks
[04:49] <doug___> bro
[04:49] <doug___> :  )
[04:49] <dwon> or apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:49] <TiMOiD> any sparc ubuntu users here?
[04:51] <urlin2u> TiMOiD, no myself but I see this on the web.
[04:51] <urlin2u> not*
[04:52] <urlin2u> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODUxNw
[04:52] <doug___> i thought spare processor were dead
[04:52] <doug___> ?
[04:52] <doug___> i meant sparc
[04:54] <ag> I need help. I have a server with two hard drive, how i can use the secondary hard drive as the storage? actually i'm building my owncloud server
[04:55] <doug___> why are people winning so much over unity
[04:55] <doug___> ?
[04:55] <doug___> is it that bad
[04:55] <doug___> ?
[04:55] <FloodBot1> doug___: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <paulus68> ag: create a mountpoint to that drive and  direct your backup program towards this mountpoint
[04:55] <doug___> sorry
[04:56] <urlin2u> doug___, hard to change, adaptation can be a struggle, but this is a #ubuntu-offtopic topic
[04:56] <urlin2u> :D
[04:58] <doug___> i got 4 computers with same configuration - trying to make a cluster - any suggestions?
[04:58] <magicJ> how can I trigger on the event of the lap top lid being opened?
[04:58] <ag> paulus68: i'm new in ubuntu. how i can do that? Thanks
[04:58] <linocisco> ag: me too
[04:58] <doug___> all 4 computers have 500gb is it possible to link them together so it looks like one?
[04:59] <Hetep> hola, am getting good connection for various programs e internet browsers are not working. Can a person assist?
[05:00] <navatwo> Hey, so I accidentally upgraded.. now I don't appear to have nVidia drivers and can not load the regular interface. Any help?
[05:00] <tristan3199> i use irssi. new to it tho.. how do i change my default nick
[05:01] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | navatwo
[05:01] <rhom> default Tibetan font kinda gloomy  something like this "ཨོཾ" any idea to fix it?
[05:01] <cainz> are there any gotchas for setting static IP? I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html but I can no longer connect to internet. Any ideas?
[05:01] <paulus68> ag: you start with sudo mkdir /mnt/backup  this is creating a folder in mnt with the name backup
[05:01] <navatwo> urlin2u: I don't have a GUI at the moment.
[05:02] <navatwo> urlin2u: I'm running irssi from a tty
[05:02] <cainz> if i am using a usb network adapater, will that affect how i need to set up a static ip?
[05:02] <me0h> Hi Everyone!
[05:02] <urlin2u> navatwo, you don't need one you can put npmodeset in the kernel at the grub menu.
[05:02] <ag> paulus68: and after that?
[05:02] <urlin2u> nomodeset*
[05:02] <navatwo> okay
[05:02] <navatwo> so just put that in the boot params?
[05:03] <paulus68> ag: what is the name of your 2nd harddrive? normally it should be something like /dev/sdX
[05:03] <urlin2u> navatwo, hit e for edit and use the arrow keys to navigate to the kernel where it says no splash and put in nomodeset.
[05:04] <urlin2u> in the kernel that is
[05:04] <me0h> anyone know how to find if no key is pressed while terminal is in 'raw' mode?
[05:05] <ag> paulus68: i dont remember, i think the format is ntfs, the server was a windows before
[05:06] <paulus68> ag: type in sudo fdisk -l
[05:07] <paulus68> ag: is you second harddrive listed there?
[05:08] <wifioregon> I have ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10 installed side by side.  I noticed now I have the option of going back to the old 2.6 kernel but still use 11.10.  It works great except my builtin wifi doesnt work, but my usb wifi does.  Everything works great when I use the new kernel with 11.10 but when I use the old kernel with 11.10, not so much.
[05:08] <ag> paulus68: it show two
[05:09] <Corey> wifioregon: Yes, older kernels and newer hardware.... :-)
[05:09] <ag> paulus68: one is /dev/sda and the other is /dev/sdb
[05:09] <wifioregon> Corey: but when I use 10.04 with the old kernel it works great with both my wifi adapters.
[05:10] <paulus68> ag: type in df -h is your drive shown there the sdb one
[05:10] <wifioregon> Is there a way to get 11.10 with the old kernel working with both my wifi adapters? or am I stuck using 10.04?  Whats the downside to using 10.04? it seems WAY more stable
[05:11] <urlin2u> wifioregon, have you considered getting the 11.10 kernel working?
[05:11] <ag> paulus68: no
[05:11] <doug___> they don't care
[05:12] <wifioregon> urline2u: the 11.10 kernel wont work with MANY programs of mine...no patches available
[05:12] <urlin2u> wifioregon, okay then.:D
[05:12] <paulus68> ag: sudo mount -a /dev/sdb1 /mnt/backup
[05:13] <wifioregon> I guess I'm stuck going back and forth between 10.04 and 11.10...I really hope 12.04 is more stable than 11 has been. I know its supposed to be a stable release...(*keeps fingers crossed, and waits till april)
[05:13] <vaev> ubuntu uses UUID for partitions instead of device names in /etc/fstab.. I'm trying to replicate that behaviour in a custom system. does mount understand UUID out of the box and is it related to a setting in kernel?
[05:14] <ag> paulus68: i forgot to mention that under the system name theres one that say extended and is /dev/sda2
[05:15] <ag> paulus68: and the other say Linux
[05:16] <paulus68> ag: do you work with desktop ubuntu or server?
[05:16] <ag> paulus68: ubuntu server
[05:17] <Pharaoh> Hello
[05:17] <doug___> if i have 4 computers is it possible to join all 4 hd so they look like one?
[05:17] <Pharaoh> Can anyone help me? I need help with my behavioral problems and need some self-help advice.
[05:17] <doug___> yep i can help join the psychiatrist room
[05:17] <wifioregon> Pharaoh...try ubuntu-offtopic...
[05:18] <wifioregon> Pharaoh: I really like Smart recovery http://www.smartrecoveryforum.org ..they have a chat room
[05:18] <wifioregon> Pharaoh: its a secular science based group
[05:18] <paulus68> ag: sudo mkdir /mnt/disk2
[05:19] <paulus68> ag: sudo mount - a /dev/sda2 /mnt/disk2
[05:19] <paulus68> ag: cd /mnt/disk2
[05:19] <Pharaoh> Wifi thank you brother.
[05:19] <Pharaoh> Is there a psychiatrist room?
[05:19] <wifioregon> Pharaoh: they use congnitive therapy methods and is very well done
[05:19] <FastPutty> 12.04 is save to use?
[05:19] <urlin2u> Pharaoh, nop and #ubuntu-offtopic is not as described
[05:20] <urlin2u> wifioregon, please don't do that.
[05:20] <paulus68> ag: ls -al
[05:20] <Pharaoh> urlin2u what do you mean?
[05:20] <urlin2u> Pharaoh, your being liued to.
[05:20] <urlin2u> lied
[05:21] <paulus68> ag: does this show the content of your harddrive you had under windows?
[05:21] <urlin2u> Pharaoh, if you really need help see a counselor.
[05:21] <Pharaoh> I'm too broke man!
[05:21] <Pharaoh> I need help understanding why I'm so unproductive.
[05:21] <Pharaoh> And why my brain is always in auto-pilot mode.
[05:22] <urlin2u> Pharaoh, your not going to find out why on the irc.
[05:22] <ag> paulus68: this is what it say:  total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2012-01-24 23:18 .
[05:22] <Pharaoh> :(
[05:22] <paulus68> ag: was there something on it before you changed to ubuntu?
[05:23] <ag> paulus68: no it was empty
[05:23] <paulus68> Pharaoh: go to one of your best mates/parents and try to get some advice from him/her
[05:24] <paulus68> ag: ok then this is normal so if you type in df -h does it show now 2 or 3 harddrives?
[05:26] <ag> paulus68: it show just one /dev/sda1
[05:27] <tristan3299> hello, looking to find out what file contains the info for my default file browser setting
[05:29] <paulus68> ag: sudo mount -a /dev/sda2 /mnt/disk2
[05:30] <ag> paulus68: it say you must specify the filesystem type
[05:31] <tristan3199> why is it that dolphin wont show any files unless under root???
[05:31] <paulus68> ag: that's out of my league here
[05:31] <paulus68> !fstab | ag
[05:32] <tristan3199> anybody here familiar with using other file managers than nautilus.... im trying to figure out a few small issues.. first is why wont dolphin show any files with out being in root..
[05:33] <linocisco> how could I use real photoshop in ubuntu 11.10? i dont like GIMP or others
[05:33] <linocisco> using wine is so slow like using on VM
[05:33] <somsip> linocisco: use wine - some version of CS apparently run fine
[05:34] <tristan3199> linocisco: what about playonlinux..
[05:34] <hiddensoul> linocisco, short of using wine or VM there is no other way to run PS in linux
[05:34] <lagbox> hello ... just upgraded to 11.04 ... how do i remove this piece of crap desktop interface and get my normal desktop and panels back ive been using for ever ?
[05:34] <tristan3199> does anybody know what may be causing dolphin to not be able to operate unless in root???
[05:35] <somsip> !nounity | lagbox
[05:35] <lagbox> thx :)
[05:35] <somsip> lagbox: sorry - !classic would have been more helpful for 11.04
[05:35] <lagbox> gotcha
[05:36] <lagbox> yea quite a shock when i just booted back up
[05:36] <tristan3199> hey i dont want to flood.. if anybody would just respond and say they have no idea ill go away.. and just figure this out solo.. but help would be nice..
[05:37] <tristan3199> i am trying to understand why dolphin wont run correctly unless as a root user
[05:37] <NastyNaz> im having file permission nightmares, can anyone help please?
[05:37] <genewitch> tristan3199: dolphin the emulator?
[05:37] <linocisco> is there any tools to convert pdf to ms word file?
[05:37] <tristan3199> genewitch: the file browser
[05:38] <NastyNaz> i have a file in /var/www that is written by user 'mc5', however www-data needs to be able to read the file. how can i make that happen?
[05:38] <genewitch> tristan3199: oh. no idea. does it open any ports?
[05:38] <NastyNaz> if I CHOWN the file mc5 will overwrite it with its own permissions
[05:38] <genewitch> NastyNaz: add www-data to the same group as mc5
[05:38] <lagbox> somsip, can you give me more info for 11.04
[05:38] <NastyNaz> genewitch: how can i do that?
[05:38] <somsip> !classic | lagbox
[05:38] <genewitch> NastyNaz: man gpasswd
[05:38] <lagbox> thx :)
[05:38] <NastyNaz> genewitch: thanks
[05:39] <lagbox> awesome .. brb
[05:39] <somsip> lagbox: gah - doesn't help nuch either. Basically, when you log into GDM, you should have a drop down at the bottom and you can chose Gnome Classic from there
[05:39] <tristan3199> genewitch: not really sure what you mean by opening ports.. its not related to anything online
[05:40] <NastyNaz> how can i list all current groups? if i make a new group and add users A and B, do members of that group automatically have all permissions of A and B?
[05:41] <makara> hi. I can't turn off the standard toolbar. It keeps reappearing, floated in the middle of the screen. I'm on Ubuntu 11.10
[05:41] <tristan3199> anybody familiar with dolphin??
[05:41] <makara> on LibreOffice
[05:41] <somsip> NastyNaz: cat /etc/group. And, no
[05:42] <tristan3199> or even knowledge of file permissions in nautilus might point me in the right direction
[05:42] <NastyNaz> whats the command to create a group?
[05:43] <lagbox> thx for that ... i guess i have to setup all my old compiz settings again aswell
[05:43] <tristan3199> everytime i open dolphin in usr mode it doesnt show any files.. but in root it works perfectly.. what could be going on??
[05:44] <lagbox> how do you add the ... shutdown/lock/logout thing back to the gnome panel ?
[05:44] <makara> NastyNaz: groupadd
[05:44] <tristan3199> lagbox: they changed the panel a bit.. try alt + right click
[05:44] <tristan3199> lagbox: then choose add to panel
[05:44] <makara> NastyNaz: I found it with 'apropos group'
[05:44] <lagbox> they are seperate items
[05:45] <labkom> waw
[05:45] <labkom> good
[05:45] <tristan3199> lagbox: im wrong accually, ill click around for a bit..
[05:45] <lagbox> there used to be a default one ... that would let you do everything ...   thx tristan3199
[05:46] <NastyNaz> i dont get it, i made the group 'mapgroup' and did 'usermod -g mapgroup mc5' but under /etc/group mc5 doesnt show up as having a group
[05:47] <genewitch> tristan3199: then i'd google it, maybe that version is broken or something, or maybe it needs to run as root once to do something, who knows
[05:47] <tristan3199> lagbox: right click the bottom panel.. then click add to panel
[05:47] <genewitch> NastyNaz: look under mapgroup
[05:48] <Gskellig> if i have ./executable where do I put it so I can run it anywhere?
[05:48] <tristan3199> lagbox: while holding alt
[05:48] <genewitch> NastyNaz: it looks like mapgroup:abunchofcrapnumbers:user1,user2,user3,
[05:48] <NastyNaz> i did it just says mapgroup:x:1003:
[05:48] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Did it just start happening?
[05:48] <Gskellig>  /usr/bin ?
[05:48] <somsip> Gskellig: somewhere in your path, possibly ~/bin or /usr/local/bin if you want it to be widely available
[05:48] <tristan3199> bobo37773: yep..
[05:48] <lagbox> tristan ... using classic
[05:48] <lagbox> just right click
[05:49] <tristan3199> lagbox: yeah.. its picky about where you click.. i just clicked in the middle of the empty space with all my windows minimized
[05:49] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Did you try renaming the config files so that the program is forced to recreate them? That is probably where I would start. Maybe reinstalling it too
[05:49] <mark_morcom> hI - Please help - I am using Ubuntu Oneiric and my keypad stopped working but now it cotrols my mouse - I found some Hardy fixes for the same problem, but it does not work - The Hardy solution was Ctrl+Shift+Numlock
[05:49] <NastyNaz> I fixed it, I had to do 'usermod -a -G mapgroup mc5'
[05:49] <mark_morcom> How can I fix it
[05:50] <tristan3199> bobo 37773: do you know where to locate said files.. i have looked for them but with no luck finding them yet..
[05:50] <mark_morcom> Oh, Im using Gnome  and not Unity
[05:50] <lagbox> lets get passed the clicking part ... what option do you see that combines logout/shutdown/etc ... into one item like the default panel
[05:50] <mark_morcom> *Gnome 3
[05:51] <bobo37773> None in $HOME?
[05:51] <bobo37773> tristan3199: None in $HOME?
[05:51] <tristan3199> lagbox: its in the list that pops up.. ill look
[05:51] <tristan3199> bobo37773: ill unhide my files and double check real quick..
[05:52] <lagbox> nope it is not
[05:52] <bobo37773> tristan3199: If not there maybe ~/.config/ or /etc/
[05:52] <NastyNaz> ok still doesnt fix problem. When I run a program on mc5 it alters files in /var/www such that the owner and group become 'mc5' - 'www-data' still cant access the file. any ideas how to fix?
[05:53] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Also, are you loading it from a shortcut somewhere or straight from the terminal? If you load it in the terminal is there no terminal output?
[05:53] <lagbox> and what the poo is with it adjusting my compiz settings ... every damn time, its getting old this game
[05:54] <mark_morcom> How do I disable Mouse Keys in Oneiric with Gnome 3 and Not UNITY?
[05:55] <Ben64> mark_morcom: alt+shift+numlock ?
[05:55] <tristan3199> bobo3773: yes there is output.. errors... ill put one in here..
[05:55] <sysRPL> hello
[05:55] <tristan3199> lagbox: seems that they dont have the one your talking about now.. but its more customizable i guess...
[05:56] <sysRPL> tristan3199: hey man
[05:56] <androidbruce> could anyone assist me in setting up my ubuntu server as my webhost and nameserver
[05:56] <tristan3199> sysRPL: yea
[05:56] <sysRPL> tristan3199: you need to fix your internet router
[05:56] <sysRPL> tristan3199: i cna see it from here
[05:56] <lagbox> no it is still there .. just not in the menu .. i had this issue before the upgrade ... when the panel doesnt load correctly it just starts removing sh...stuff
[05:57] <sysRPL> http://router.codebot.org
[05:57] <tristan3199> sysRPL: how do i fix that.. and what can you do with it???
[05:57] <sysRPL> i can pretty much screw you ... you need to fix that asap
[05:57] <lagbox> whats the deal with unity anyway ... reminds me of an osx clone
[05:58] <tristan3199> sysRPL: how where u able to notice that?
[05:58] <sysRPL> with the finger command
[05:59] <tristan3199> dolphin(13385): No ksycoca4 database available!
[06:00] <bobo37773> tristan3199: That is the error when you run it as normal user?
[06:00] <tristan3199> sysRPL: thank you.. how do i correct this??
[06:00] <tristan3199> bobo37773: correct
[06:00] <tristan3199> bobo37773: or the most significant one.. there are a few..
[06:01] <tristan3199> bobo37773: screen fulls
[06:02] <makara_> androidbruce: a very unlikely request
[06:02] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Do you run kde or just dolphin by itself?
[06:03] <androidbruce> makara_, yeah
[06:03] <tristan3199> bobo37773: just dolphin,, should i show you a couple of the other errors..
[06:03] <androidbruce> makara_, just need some direction
[06:03] <tristan3199> dolphin(13456)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig:
[06:03] <tristan3199> QFile::remove: Empty or null file name
[06:04] <androidbruce> makara_, i know how to setup apache2 and sql, but what about nameservers
[06:04] <lagbox> whats the deal with losing all your configurations after upgrades .... how does that make any sense at all
[06:05] <tristan3199> sysRPL: how do i hide??
[06:05] <makara_> androidbruce: http://nixcraft.com/getting-started-tutorials/525-ubuntu-linux-setup-configure-domain-name-server-bind.html
[06:05] <lagbox> has compiz been replaced ?
[06:06] <genewitch> NastyNaz: you ahve to put www-data,mc5 in that group entry
[06:06] <makara_> lagbox: no
[06:06] <genewitch> NastyNaz: use gpasswd or just edit the file with sudo nano
[06:06] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Do you have a command on your system called "kbuildsycoca"?
[06:07] <lagbox> then why does a new version of gnome remove my settings
[06:07] <Jesseh> Hello can someone please tell me what --user does and what the local directory is primarily used for
[06:07] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Maybe kbuildsycoca4
[06:08] <somsip> lagbox: no, just some functions are less than compatible with 11.04, even if you back out of Unity
[06:08] <makara_> Ubuntu is pushing for its own interface with Unity
[06:08] <Jesseh> .local?
[06:09] <lagbox> what is the benefit to unity, because i dont see it and already switched back to classic
[06:09] <somsip> Jesseh: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ will tell you about local
[06:09] <wolfmanz> unity is for tablets:)
[06:10] <tristan3199> bobo37773: trying to create local folder /home/tristan/.kde/cache-tristan-LT20: Permission denied
[06:10] <Jesseh> Alright, what do I hit when im on that page
[06:10] <Jesseh> im lost already ahha
[06:10] <somsip> lagbox: a significant proportion of users stay with it and it seems to be the fixed way forward for stock ubuntu installs
[06:10] <lagbox> i see
[06:10] <Jesseh> the PDF is fine i guess
[06:10] <bobo37773> tristan3199: What is that from? The command I gave you?
[06:10] <androidbruce> thanks makara
[06:10] <androidbruce> makara, this bind config is a bit complex eh?
[06:11] <tristan3199> yep: i just have kybuildsycoca4
[06:11] <lagbox> is unity gnome3 or are they seperate entities ?
[06:11] <tristan3199> sysRPL: any advice?
[06:11] <somsip> lagbox: separate
[06:11] <tristan3199> bobo37773: correct
[06:11] <makara> androidbruce: I leave it to OpenDNS
[06:11] <lagbox> am i losing something besides the unity interface by using classic ?
[06:12] <rigved> !unity | lagbox
[06:12] <makara> lagbox: you lose plenty. just set the Unity Launcher to hide, install Docky and customize the heck out of compiz
[06:12] <rigved> !gnome3 | lagbox
[06:13] <makara> androidbruce: why you setting your own dns may I ask?
[06:13] <lagbox> that doesn't make any sense .... at all
[06:13] <somsip> lagbox: it is a matter of personal preference. Unity is moving forward with things like the global menu bar, lenses and the hub. You may not get any of these without unity, and possibly other functionality
[06:13] <androidbruce> makara, want to host my own site completely from home.
[06:13] <androidbruce> makara, i have a commercial account with static ip at home
[06:13] <tristan3199> bobo37773: but there is no home/tristan folder existing
[06:14] <lagbox> unity is the dfault ui since 11.04 ... gnome3 is the desktop environment on which unity is based ... gnome 3 is not supported b y 11.04 and may break your system
[06:14] <thrillERboy> Hi Guys, How do I login to a remote SSH with my SSH Keys, the remote server is set up with my keys.
[06:14] <ro0ot> Hey, I was wondering if there is a way I can change my gnome (ubuntu 9) to unity without upgrading...is this possible?
[06:15] <hallow> Hey, I was wondering if there is a way I can change my gnome (ubuntu 9) to unity without upgrading...is this possible?**
[06:15] <tristan3199> bobo37773: should i create one?? and include a file by that name at the path its looking for??
[06:15] <hallow> sorry for the double message
[06:15] <hallow> I just had some lag.
[06:15] <somsip> lagbox: unity is a bit like G3 in concept and design, that the similarity ends there as far as compatibility is concerned. G3 is still in beta for 11.10 AFAIK so it cannot be recommended
[06:16] <lagbox> well that makes more sense
[06:16] <kroonrs> thrillERboy: if your public key has been added to your user accounts' authorized_keys in .ssh , you should simply be able to ssh <username>@<host>
[06:17] <makara> androidbruce: still not sure why you need a nameserver for that. Unless you've got a LAN tucked behind the server that needs some serious routing.
[06:17] <bobo37773> tristan3199: What? How could you not have a home folder?
[06:17] <rigved> lagbox: in 11.04, unity was based on gnome2. since 11.10, unity is based on gnome3. gnome3 is only supported since 11.10, not on 11.04 or before as it conflicts with gnome2.
[06:17] <sanu> join
[06:17] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i have a home folder.. but there is no folder named tristan inside of it..
[06:17] <androidbruce> makara, hosting requires nameserver, how can I host without a nameserver?
[06:17] <sanu> hello
[06:17] <somsip> androidbruce: you can't. Look at a service like DynDNS or Route53
[06:18] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Did you create a user named tristan in the past?
[06:18] <thrillERboy> kroonrs: My key is .ssh directory with id_rsa and id_rsa.pub. Should I manually add those keys to user accounts?
[06:18] <Ben64> androidbruce: your registrar should have nameservers you can use
[06:18] <androidbruce> i used dyndns when I had a dyanmic ip somsip
[06:18] <lagbox> so i guess i might as well continue my upgrade chain to 11.10
[06:18] <androidbruce> Ben64, AH true
[06:18] <androidbruce> Ben64, then just have the DNS point to my home IP
[06:18] <somsip> androidbruce: they provide a nameserver service for custom domains IIRC
[06:18] <androidbruce> and config apache
[06:18] <hallow> Hey, I was wondering if there is a way I can change my gnome (ubuntu 9) to unity without upgrading...is this possible?
[06:19] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Open a terminal and type "pwd"
[06:19] <lagbox> hallow, why would you want to
[06:19] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i apoligize.. i do have home/tristan.. and also home/home  it seemed i was in the wrong spot lookin around.. sorry
[06:19] <Ben64> androidbruce: home based servers aren't a very good idea though
[06:19] <NastyNaz> how do i use pipe properly? nano | locate php.ini <-- doesnt work
[06:19] <androidbruce> Ben64, commercial internetz with no cap
[06:19] <somsip> hallow: no
[06:19] <kroonrs> thrillERboy: I guess those keys are on your local PC, and you want to be able to ssh to a server.  In that case, you've got to put the contents of id_rsa.pub into .ssh/authorized_keys in the home dir of your account on the server
[06:19] <androidbruce> Ben64, I am a business essentially
[06:19] <hallow> lagbox: I have modified my kernel to meet specific needs that would be a paint to attempt with the new OS.
[06:19] <Ben64> androidbruce: static ip?
[06:19] <androidbruce> it's not as "reliable" I suppose
[06:19] <androidbruce> Ben64, yup
[06:19] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Try this: Rename your .kde folder to .kde.backup or whatever and rerun the command
[06:19] <seanism> i found a great tutorial on SSH
[06:20] <Ben64> androidbruce: what kind of bandwidth?
[06:20] <seanism> keys
[06:20] <major> HELLO... I need help... I can't ssh my servers
[06:20] <lagbox> hallow, no ... why would you want unity is my question ... just wondering which feature you are looking for that it provides
[06:20] <androidbruce> Ben64, 25/12
[06:20] <androidbruce> Ben64, 25 down and 12 up
[06:20] <hallow> lagbox: it just looks nice, really.
[06:20] <kroonrs> major: can you ping your server, or access a website on the server?
[06:20] <sanu> haii
[06:20] <makara> androidbruce: if a user can find your nameserver, why can't they find your website?
[06:20] <hallow> lagbox: do you know of any tutorials that exist for it?
[06:20] <seanism> http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[06:20] <tristan3199> bobo37773: when i try to enter the folder .kde it says You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of ".kde".
[06:21] <lagbox> NastyNaz, pipe goes left to right
[06:21] <androidbruce> makara, they can. I was just trying to go about it the "proper" way
[06:21] <major> kroonrs: no no I lost the keyring because I formatted my netbook
[06:21] <Ben64> androidbruce: not bad for a small site, yeah just set the ip on your registrar and set up apache
[06:21] <lagbox> hallow, no not at all ... if there is even one out there
[06:21] <smp4488> im trying to cross compile a kernel for arm and im get weird errors http://pastebin.com/r9Ej93GH
[06:21] <androidbruce> Ben64, yeah
[06:21] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Then use root to rename directory
[06:21] <tristan3199> bobo37773: awsome.. will do
[06:22] <lagbox> hallow, the ubuntu forums would be a good place to start
[06:22] <kroonrs> major: so the problem is that you have forgotten your passwords?
[06:22] <NastyNaz> lagbox: so how do I get nano to open the output from 'locate php.ini' ?
[06:22] <hallow> lagbox: thanks
[06:22] <major> I know the passwords kroonrs but I can't access
[06:22] <bobo37773> tristan3199: sudo mv /home/tristan/.kde /home/tristan/.kde.backup
[06:23] <lagbox> NastyNaz, read the man on nano and see if you can actually pass it data like that ... if not put the output into a file and nano the file
[06:23] <kroonrs> major: what happens if you type ssh <username>@<host> ?
[06:23] <makara> major: you need to login into your host and reset the ssh details
[06:23] <tristan3199> bobo37773: done
[06:23] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Are you still getting the same error?
[06:23] <lagbox> and now my computer doesn't know what to do with certain files ... yay for that
[06:24] <lagbox> if im just going to have to reconfigure everything after an upgrade im just going to format and do a clean install
[06:24] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i can enter the .kde file now but still empty windows..
[06:24] <major> kroonrs & makara: I created an id_rsa key and server support replaced the old key in "authorized_keys" but I'm still getting (access denied)
[06:25] <bobo37773> tristan3199: you should not be able to enter .kde if it does not exist. How did you recreate it?
[06:25] <lagbox> Gskellig, make up your mind
[06:25] <Gskellig> sorry
[06:25] <NiteHawk> hi
[06:26] <lagbox> i was kidding :)
[06:26] <makara> major: download it again and put it in .ssh folder
[06:26] <NiteHawk> can yall help me
[06:26] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i opened a file with dolphin.. did i jump the gun
[06:26] <bobo37773> tristan3199: With kbuildsycoca?
[06:26] <lagbox> NiteHawk, whats your question
[06:26] <tristan3199> i removed the file..
[06:26] <NiteHawk> i cant connect to my home server
[06:26] <major> makara: download what exactly?
[06:27] <Gskellig> theres a nick war going on in another channel
[06:27] <Gskellig> I'll stop lurking here so it won't bug you lol
[06:27] <makara> major: the id_rsa key
[06:27] <tristan3199> bobo37773: do i need kbuildsycoca or will kbuildsycoca4 be enough
[06:27] <lagbox> NiteHawk, okay ...
[06:27] <NiteHawk> aurora.ca.us.serenity-irc,net 6667
[06:27] <major> makara: dones aroud 3-4 times and still the same thing
[06:27] <bobo37773> tristan3199: no kbuildsyscoca4 is probably right
[06:28] <kroonrs> major: can't you get server support to remove all your keys, so that you can login with your password?  Then you can manually set up the keys yourself?
[06:28] <tristan3199> bobo37773: should i type kbuildsycoca4 in the teminal now...
[06:28] <kroonrs> major: or do you have multiple keys authorized?  In that case, they may have replaced the wrong one?
[06:28] <major> makara: I booted server on rescue and did it myself 3-4 times
[06:28] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Yeah, give it a shot
[06:28] <lagbox> NiteHawk, you have to be more specific than that
[06:28] <lagbox> NiteHawk, what is the problem
[06:29] <tristan3199> bobo37773: thank you so much... its good now..
[06:29] <NiteHawk> i cant logon days server not found
[06:29] <NiteHawk> sats
[06:29] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Dolphin is working correctly now?
[06:29] <lagbox> NiteHawk, can't connect from where
[06:29] <lagbox> NiteHawk, what OS ... what OS are you on ... isp ... etc etc
[06:30] <NiteHawk> jome
[06:30] <tristan3199> bobo37773: yes it is...  is there a way to make it default over nautilus..
[06:30] <NiteHawk> home
[06:30] <lagbox> NiteHawk, you can't connect to a computer at your house from your house ?
[06:30] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i have managed to make the "places" drop down menu use dolphin but not the desktop yet
[06:30] <Hyper_Sha> Hi Guys, does anyone knows how to split a 5GB txt file into smaller sizes? like 2GB each?
[06:30] <major> kroonrs: the weird thing: I created another key outside ~/.ssh and it worked... also the copied the denied id_rsa file outside ~/.ssh and it worked too
[06:30] <NiteHawk> ;ey me try again
[06:30] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Of course. There are a couple of ways. Do you want to keep nautilus?
[06:31] <makara> major: can you sftp into your server?
[06:31] <tristan3199> bobo37773: just as a back up in case i mess something up.. but i dont really like it..
[06:31] <kroonrs> major: sounds like a misconfiguration of ssh on the machine where that happened
[06:31] <zeknox> Hyper_Sha: depending on the layout you could use head + tail commands in linux to split the text up
[06:31] <lagbox> how do i tell my system ... using gnome-classic that a torrent file is to be associated with a torrent application and why the hell do i have to manual configure this after an upgrade
[06:32] <major> makara: what is sftp?
[06:32] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Look at /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[06:32] <zeknox> major: secure file transfer, typically runs over port 22/tcp
[06:32] <Hyper_Sha> zeknox: it's a wordlist file
[06:32] <major> kroonrs: 99% it's all here
[06:32] <kroonrs> Hyper_Sha: man split
[06:32] <zeknox> Hyper_Sha: split it up with head and tail in linux then
[06:32] <major> makara: no I'm getting access denied on anything
[06:33] <warrensheets> hi all
[06:33] <Hyper_Sha> kroonrs: thx
[06:33] <Hyper_Sha> zeknox: thx
[06:33] <warrensheets> im ne to lenix
[06:33] <major> it is something related to keyring, or seahorse
[06:33] <kroonrs> Hyper_Sha: np :)
[06:33] <zeknox> kroonrs: I never even knew about the split command...haha
[06:33] <lagbox> warrensheets, Linux
[06:33] <FastPutty> guys what is the site again to test pin from many country arround the world
[06:33] <kroonrs> major: sorry, don't think I have any more useful suggestions - I hope makara/someone else can help you further :(
[06:33] <FastPutty> i completly forget it
[06:34] <FastPutty> test ping**
[06:34] <makara> major: who is your host?
[06:34] <major> makara: digicube
[06:34] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Maybe ~/.local/share/applications/ too
[06:34] <makara> major: check their forums or google for similar issues
[06:34] <major> makara: tried
[06:34] <tristan3199> bobo37773: for this line application/x-gnome-saved-search=nautilus.desktop;nautilus-folder-handler.desktop;??
[06:36] <makara> major: could access denied be a blocked port on your machine? I don't know
[06:36] <bobo37773> tristan3199: I think its inode/directory
[06:36] <bobo37773> inode/directory=pcmanfm.desktop;Thunar-folder-handler.desktop;
[06:36] <bobo37773> thats mine
[06:37] <bobo37773> tristan3199: keep looking
[06:37] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Its line 349 in mine
[06:38] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Should be alphabetical order
[06:38] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i have less than fourty lines.. one is inode/directory=kde4-dolphin.desktop;banshee.desktop;vlc.desktop;
[06:39] <tristan3199> bobo 37773: from mimeapps.list
[06:39] <tristan3199> bobo37773: in local/applications
[06:39] <bobo37773> tristan3199: yeah thats the line
[06:40] <bobo37773> tristan3199: what file are you editing?
[06:40] <bobo37773> tristan3199:  /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache    right?
[06:40] <wookienz> guys if i chmod 000 a file, should they sill be able to access iva thr web?
[06:41] <warrensheets> im tring to make my own server can anyone help
[06:41] <bobo37773> wookienz: ?
[06:41] <tristan3199> bobo37773: yep.. just found what your pointing me too..
[06:41] <wookienz> sorry a bit obscure... i have a php file, i want people to not access it, can i just chmod 000 it?
[06:41] <tristan3199> line 354
[06:41] <tristan3199> plu
[06:42] <tristan3199> plus*
[06:42] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Yeah. What does it say?
[06:43] <warrensheets> can anyone tell me how to host my own web site from lenix
[06:43] <lagbox> does 11.04 still use nautilus ... i mean what the fudge .. i have a crippled desktop now ... why
[06:43] <tristan3199> bobo37773: now it reads inode/directory=dolphin.desktop;kde4-dolphin.desktop;dolphin-folder-handler.desktop;
[06:43] <lagbox> cant even up a damn folder
[06:44] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Did you change it to that or is that what is said already?
[06:44] <lagbox> ive been using linux since 98 and have never had as many problems as i have had with the upgrade to 10.10 and 11.04 so far
[06:44] <major> lagbox: please read http://pastebin.com/5n13tmyH
[06:44] <lagbox> cool
[06:45] <tristan3199> bobo37773: what about x-content/blank-bd=brasero-nautilus.desktop;
[06:45] <tristan3199> should that read x-content/blank-bd=brasero-dolphin.desktop;
[06:45] <linocisco> hi
[06:46] <Redflea> Hi - Noob here, trying to install Ubuntu for dual boot...10.04.3 on CD, on a Sony VPC CW290L laptop - Nvidia graphics, Win 7 Pro.  Every time I start install, or demo, or anything requiring Ubuntu to display anything (other than language selection and the initial menu in Demo mode) the screen goes blank...things appear to be running, but no display.  Anything I can do, or does that mean this laptop won't install/run ubuntu. <sad>
[06:46] <linocisco> where and how to register an IRC account to use with pidgin?
[06:46] <lagbox> Redflea, it probably will install .. it may be loading the wrong graphic driver after that point
[06:47] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Not sure.
[06:47] <major> lagbox: any ideas?
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> linocisco: you mean registering a nick(name)?
[06:47] <Redflea> lagbox: how do I fix it/get it to display anything during (and after, LOL, install?  Can't install if I can't see anything..
[06:47] <tristan3199> bobo37773: also x-content/unix-software=nautilus-autorun-software.desktop;
[06:47] <bobo37773> tristan3199: No no no
[06:47] <lagbox> Redflea, your talking about booting into a livecd ?
[06:47] <bobo37773> tristan3199: those entries must exist
[06:47] <Redflea> I've got a CD 10.04.3 32 bit that I burned from an ISO in the CD drive...
[06:48] <lagbox> major, i have no idea
[06:48] <Redflea> lagbox: trying to run the install from that CD...screen goes black...
[06:48] <lagbox> Redflea, your probably going to have to pass the kernel a special command or manualy through command line have it load a different driver for xorg
[06:49] <lagbox> i cant think of how to do that or what is the right thing off the top of my head though
[06:49] <bobo37773> tristan3199: The ones you have to choose from are in /usr/share/applications   open a terminal and type "ls /usr/share/applications"
[06:49] <Redflea> lagbox:  Thanks...any idea where I can find out what to use?
[06:49] <tristan3199> bobo37773: ok..
[06:49] <tristan3199> bobo37773: done
[06:49] <Redflea> lagbox:  I'm happy to read/learn, but am a linux noob...
[06:49] <lagbox> Redflea, the ubuntu forums will probably have some good insight into the boot menu of the cd
[06:49] <bobo37773> tristan3199: You can't just 'wing it'. brasero-dolphin.desktop probably doesn't exist...
[06:50] <goddard> how much faster would ubuntu be if i compiled it for my machine?
[06:50] <tommynmw> hi all
[06:50] <Redflea> lagbox:  OK, thanks...I'll go spend some time there, ask questions, do a little searching/reading.  Thanks very much.  later
[06:50] <tristan3199> bobo37773: gotcha..
[06:50] <lagbox> Redflea, it is common, or was, to have to pass boot parameteers to the kernel for different issues
[06:50] <bobo37773> goddard: hard to say
[06:50] <ultrixx> goddard: are you using 64 bit version?
[06:50] <Redflea> cool...hopefully I will triumph.  :)
[06:50] <bobo37773> goddard: Everything from source?
[06:51] <lagbox> but im probably not the guy to ask at the moment im already thinking of switching to another distro
[06:51] <goddard> ultrixx: ya
[06:51] <ultrixx> goddard: then probably almost nothing
[06:51] <lagbox> the last 3 or 4 version have pissed me off
[06:51] <goddard> ultrixx: why do you say that?
[06:52] <bobo37773> goddard: What compile options / make options are you going to use?
[06:52] <sjihs> Hi, What is the difference b/w thread_siblings and core_siblings in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/topology?
[06:52] <linocisco> aeon-ltd: yes
[06:52] <goddard> bobo37773: well i could try the intel compiler for my intel machine
[06:53] <goddard> bobo37773: if that even works
[06:53] <lagbox> sjihs, im not upon the multi core thing but they are def different
[06:53] <ultrixx> goddard: you already have the 64 bit instructions/registers and sse/sse2 that are used by the 64 bit version
[06:53] <bobo37773> goddard: Hmmm. Do you mean just recompiling the kernel?
[06:54] <goddard> bobo37773: i guess i wasn't exactly sure was curious if any part of the system could be improved upon if i compiled it for my system
[06:54] <goddard> similar to mac
[06:54] <sjihs> lagbox: yes, I read the linux-2.6/Documentation/cputopology.txt. But couldn't understand the description
[06:54] <ultrixx> goddard: in 32 bit environment it makes a difference between i386 and i686 instructions
[06:54] <Super_Mario_MidN> hello?
[06:54] <bobo37773> goddard: Yeah, it is not really the Ubuntu way for the most part. Compiling your kernel may help though.
[06:55] <bobo37773> goddard: Are you having speed issues?
[06:55] <lagbox> sjihs, im not sure of the terminology that is used to describe the space in which threads exist in relationship to cores
[06:55] <bobo37773> goddard: like too slow I mean
[06:56] <goddard> bobo37773: i have a good laptop and speed is fine but was impressed by OSX and the speed of the interface
[06:56] <Super_Mario_MidN> Is Ubuntu actually better than Kubuntu?
[06:56] <sjihs> lagbox: same here
[06:56] <goddard> Super_Mario_MidN: that isn't a fact based question
[06:56] <lagbox> Super_Mario_MidN,  kubuntu is ubuntu with kde ... i believe
[06:57] <ultrixx> Super_Mario_MidN: kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses unity
[06:57] <ultrixx> Super_Mario_MidN: so if you belong to the people who don't like unity and who like kde, then kubuntu is better for you.
[06:57] <lagbox> rick james
[06:58] <ultrixx> Super_Mario_MidN: the rest of the packages are the same
[06:58] <lagbox> sjihs, i got out of lower level programming before the multicore thing became an issue
[06:58] <jiltdil> is there any 64 bit oracle xe .deb package available
[06:59] <bobo37773> goddard: I went through that same thing a while back.
[06:59] <lagbox> ive had a 64bit processor for 6 years and have never used it outside of 32bit so idk
[06:59] <sjihs> lagbox: ok
[07:00] <lagbox> i suppose the support for it has caught up by now
[07:00] <Super_Mario_MidN> I like windows 7 better
[07:00] <bobo37773> goddard: My solution in the end was switching to arch and optimizing my system to the max (custom kernel, preloading applications, running my own dns server etc etc..).
[07:00] <lagbox> Super_Mario_MidN, you would
[07:00] <sjihs> lagbox: Yes, definitely.
[07:00] <lagbox> bobo37773, why not use gentoo if your all about optimization ?
[07:01] <ejv> cmon fellas, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:01] <lagbox> to who ejv
[07:01] <bobo37773> lagbox: Never tried it... ok ejv ok Back on topic
[07:01] <ejv> you and anyone who's offtopic
[07:01] <ejv> :)
[07:01] <bobo37773> hehe
[07:02] <Super_Mario_MidN> jk I love Ubuntu
[07:02] <Super_Mario_MidN> Any one with NXP chip experience here?
[07:03] <bobo37773> goddard: ssd drive would probably help or preloding applications into ram
[07:03] <bobo37773> goddard: Oh, and e4rat is super awesome
[07:03] <honey_> what does the indication of the red ! in Gparted of partion like http://imagebin.org/195395
[07:04] <bobo37773> honey_: Hover over it with the mouse or click it. It should tell you something
[07:05] <lagbox> is that a ubuntu question
[07:05] <bobo37773> goddard: You know what would make a huge difference? Try a different window manager.
[07:05] <lagbox> bobo37773, nice :)
[07:06] <lagbox> does ubuntu still offer window maker ?
[07:06] <bobo37773> lagbox: I am in love with openbox.
[07:06] <lagbox> understandable   nice and light weight
[07:07] <bobo37773> lagbox: I tried awesome but just couldn't get into it. What is window maker? You have to design it yourself?
[07:08] <lagbox> i love how we are the only ones talking and some how this is off topic
[07:08] <johnnyamerika> exit
[07:08] <somsip> bobo37773: awesome is great, but no suited to everyone
[07:09] <bobo37773> lagbox: Hahaha. I went to offtopic earlier and it is boooooring
[07:09] <lagbox> ill have to check it out ... if it is in ubuntus repo
[07:09] <bobo37773> somsip: I gave it an honest try. I just couldn't get into it. Now I have to have pytyle though hahaha thanks awesome geesh
[07:10] <somsip> bobo37773: got to try alternatives as long as it takes you to somewhere that works for you
[07:10] <bobo37773> somsip: True true. I forgot what it was like to use nautilus
[07:11] <_skpl> how can i stop nautilus from opening a new window everytime i click on something
[07:11] <bobo37773> somsip: I miss compiz enhanced zoom desktop though. A lot
[07:12] <tristan3199> bobo37773: no luck getting the desktop icons to funtion.. i have edited and saved mimeinfo.cashe
[07:12] <somsip> bobo37773: never missed that. The only thing I really liked was CTRL-drag to screenshot, but I found xsnap so easily replaced
[07:12] <lagbox> i liked Enlightenment ... wish the guy had more support though ... have stuck with gnome
[07:12] <bobo37773> _skpl: Every time you click a folder it opens a new window? Did you look in the preferences menu?
[07:13] <lagbox> ugg .. single click opening stuff
[07:13] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Desktop icons? Is this a new problem?
[07:13] <lagbox> ala microcrap
[07:13] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i want my desktop folders opening in dolphin as well..
[07:14] <ratz_> hi friends
[07:14] <bobo37773> Do you mean you have shortcuts on your desktop for folders?
[07:14] <bobo37773> ratz_: Hey
[07:14] <ratz_> i have installed linux mint on my HP Netbook and wish to make it a DNS Server can someone please guide me?
[07:15] <lagbox> heres an ontopic one ... where in 11.04 using gnome-classic, do you set the default filemanager ?
[07:15] <bobo37773> lagbox: Are you talking about e17 same thing?
[07:15] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i learned that /etc/gnome/defaults.list allowed me to get the places dropdown menu opening in dolphin
[07:15] <lagbox> bobo37773, yes and the previous ones
[07:15] <paulus68> !bind|ratz_
[07:16] <ratz_> paulus68: i didnt understand what do u mean
[07:16] <tristan3199> bobo37773: now for the desktop folders such as my computer and home to open in dolphin as well..
[07:16] <bobo37773> lagbox: Gotcha. Yeah, I don't like it. I tried that before openbox. If I remember correctly it kept crashing
[07:16] <paulus68> ratz_: there was a package called bind which is used to make a dns server
[07:17] <paulus68> ratz_: don't know if this is changed by now
[07:17] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Create new shortcuts?
[07:17] <chris_> I got a bluetooth card with my wireless mouse. When I have it plugged in, bluetooth turns on and off rapidly
[07:17] <tristan3199> bobo37773: like remove "my computer" in settings and then add it back?? or maybe i should reboot?
[07:17] <linocisco> hi
[07:17] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Nautilus is drawing the desktop. Also, nautilus shortcuts will probably open nautilus
[07:17] <bobo37773> tristan3199: No need to reboot
[07:17] <bobo37773> linocisco: hi
[07:18] <ratz_> paulus68: is there any step by step guide for this
[07:18] <lagbox> _skpl, did you solve your prob .. its in nautilus preferences
[07:18] <shovell> i know it is off topic but can you guys help me with an issue in wine i am trying to play startrek armada 2 and there is a few problems here is the output of the console
[07:18] <shovell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816177/\
[07:18] <tristan3199> bobo37773: sorry, not good with words i suppose.. im curious if the changes i just made should have made the desktop icon "my computer" open in dolphin
[07:19] <linocisco> b
[07:19] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Can't you edit the shortcuts directly?
[07:19] <bobo37773> tristan3199: No I do not think a reboot will change your shortcuts
[07:20] <chris_> forgot its wednesday. I need to go
[07:20] <shovell> tristan3199, i have altered shortcuts and reboot diddnt change them
[07:20] <bobo37773> tristan3199:Can you right click and open with? I don't remember if nautilus has that feature
[07:21] <tristan3199> bobo37773: on normal files.. yes.. on the desktop.. no...
[07:21] <paulus68> !bind9 |ratz_
[07:22] <paulus68> !dns |ratz_
[07:22] <lagbox> where to set default file manager in gnome-classic   ubuntu 11.04
[07:23] <ratz_> thanx ubottu
[07:23] <tristan3199> bobo37773: im almost there.. just this last kink.. if i open a folder from the desktop it opens nautilus still..
[07:23] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Can't you create new shortcuts from dolphin? Like right click on the folder you want and create shorttcut on desktop
[07:24] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Remove nautilus shortcuts with gconf or ubuntu tweak or something
[07:24] <tristan3199> bobo37773: gotcha.. they are system links.. but dont need them to be...
[07:24] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Yeah. What I am trying to say is remove old shortcuts and make new ones
[07:25] <tristan3199> bobo37773: thanks so much..
[07:25] <bobo37773> tristan3199: You're welcome. Glad I could help
[07:26] <shovell> have any experience with fixing wine problems?
[07:27] <tristan3199> bobo37773: shoot.. the new links open in nautilus as well..
[07:28] <tristan3199> bobo37773: oddly enough.. two identical links... one in panel and one on desktop.. panel uses dolphin and desktop uses nautilus.. even tho they are exact copies..
[07:30] <shovell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816177/  i know it is off topic but can you guys tell me if this is a ubuntu issue?
[07:30] <bobo37773> tristan3199: New link? Did you create it with Dolphin?
[07:30] <bobo37773> tristan3199: From dolphin?
[07:30] <lagbox> what happened to system settings and default applications in gnome ... preferred applications is useless
[07:31] <bobo37773> lagbox: Edit the mime types directly
[07:31] <young_chook> I need help please, in stupid speak to backup Thunderbird
[07:31] <tristan3199> bobo37773: yes sir...
[07:31] <lagbox> ofcourse why would they keep such a usefull tool
[07:31] <bobo37773> shovell: Do you have d3d installed?
[07:32] <lagbox> i need to set nautilus as default file manager ... because right now it is saying some stupid command is the default one and it can't be run
[07:32] <bobo37773> lagbox: hahahaha Yeah the new gnome is so smart you don't need to be able to control it
[07:32] <bobo37773> lagbox: hahaha
[07:32] <lagbox> i am using gnome-classic
[07:32] <bobo37773> lagbox: What? Then why would the options be different?
[07:32] <shovell> bobo37773,  i was looking at that and i dont know for sure i think i did install it but?????
[07:33] <lagbox> not for nothing you can get so user friendly that it becomes a problem ... and that is what i have noticed since 10.04 ... its like didn't we notice where microcrap failed
[07:33] <bobo37773> shovell: Try winetricks or playonlinux
[07:33] <shovell> bobo37773,  sure
[07:33] <bobo37773> lagbox: I think 10.04 was the best ubuntu ever
[07:33] <shovell> bobo37773,  it was
[07:33] <richardcavell> It was pretty good
[07:33] <lagbox> i meant from then on
[07:34] <ultrixx> bobo37773: why not 10.10? you could still disable unity
[07:34] <richardcavell> I went back to 10.04 from 10.10
[07:34] <tristan3199> bobo37773: should i get back into those mime files and see if anymore editing may be required... is there a location that i missed..
[07:34] <richardcavell> I'm hoping 12.04 is similarly good
[07:34] <ultrixx> richardcavell: why did you go back?
[07:34] <richardcavell> more stable
[07:34] <richardcavell> simpler
[07:34] <young_chook> how do you backup thunderbird please
[07:34] <bobo37773> tristan3199: No you just need to create a custom shortcut. How about a simple script?
[07:34] <lagbox> well i am just about ready to go back to it myself at this point
[07:34] <_skpl> does anyone know how to disbale the global menu in ubbutnu 11.10
[07:34] <_skpl> ?
[07:35] <richardcavell> If Unity doesn't ruin 12.04 then I'm hoping it will be as good as 10.04
[07:35] <tristan3199> bobo37773: i edited /ect/gnome/defaults.list to get the places dropdown menu from the panel to work with dolphin...
[07:35] <lagbox> yea .. stop using unity
[07:35] <shovell> unity[07:35] <lagbox> if i wanted a mac i would get a mac
[07:36] <ultrixx> richardcavell: well you could still use kubuntu
[07:36] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Maybe just create a script like dolphin /user/directory/blah   and then point it to whatever icon you want to use
[07:36] <lagbox> its time to give mint a try i suppose
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> !register | linocisco
[07:36] <bobo37773> lagbox: Why? More "user friendlyness"
[07:36] <irc_flickpr> test
[07:36] <ultrixx> richardcavell: i prefer ubuntu but kubuntu 11.10 is awesome and you don't have to use gnome 3 or unity
[07:36] <bobo37773> friendliness*
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> linocisco: i apologise for my lateness
[07:37] <lagbox> i suppose not then
[07:37] <richardcavell> ultrixx, I want GNOME 2
[07:37] <lagbox> has debian fixed its dependency problems yet ?
[07:37] <lagbox> or run out of toy story characters
[07:37] <bobo37773> dependency problems?
[07:37] <bobo37773> hahaha
[07:37] <mark_morcom> Hi - i need help - The problem is detailed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1914789
[07:38] <wookienz> guys how do i grep something, which returns about 10 thing, then run each of those through another function?
[07:38] <bobo37773> mark_morcom: Can't enable numlock?
[07:38] <mark_morcom> The light comes on but the numpad controls my mouse
[07:38] <bobo37773> wookienz: Maybe a for each loop?
[07:39] <lagbox> mark_morcom, maybe a xorg problem ?
[07:39] <mark_morcom> Sorry, Im new to minux - what is xorg?
[07:39] <mark_morcom> 8Linux
[07:39] <bobo37773> mark_morcom: Numpad controls your mouse? Do you mean numlock isn't working?
[07:39] <lagbox> wookienz, right a bash script or perl
[07:40] <tristan3199> do i save a script as example.lnk or example.sh or ?
[07:40] <linocisco> hi
[07:40] <mark_morcom> When I googles it - It says that mouse keys is enables, I found a Hardy solution that said I had to press ctrl+ship+numlock - This did not work
[07:40] <bobo37773> tristan3199: You don't need a file extension
[07:40] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Just call it Home or Videos or whatever
[07:41] <lagbox> mark_morcom, that file probably keeps getting written to by gnome
[07:41] <mark_morcom> lagbox, is there a way to stop that?
[07:41] <lagbox> what version of ubuntu
[07:42] <bobo37773> as long as the first line reads #!/bin/bash    the file extension does not matter
[07:42] <mark_morcom> lagbox, 11.10
[07:42] <bobo37773> tristan3199: It may be better to create a real shortcut though now that I actually think about it
[07:43] <bobo37773> tristan3199: a .desktop file
[07:43] <lagbox> oh crap ... does xorg even have a config file in 11.10
[07:43] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Like Home.desktop
[07:43] <tristan3199> bobo37773: thank you.. ill see what i can do
[07:44] <sjihs> lagbox: This URL was very helpful to me. http://www.admon.org/about-cpu-the-logical-and-physical-cores/
[07:44] <lagbox> sjihs, sweet ... thanks
[07:44] <bobo37773> tristan3199: Refer back to /usr/share/applications/ for an example
[07:44] <mark_morcom> lagbox, when I sudo that config file I get the following output: http://codepad.org/RQwsUoV8
[07:45] <bobo37773> tristan3199:       cat /usr/share/applications/dolphin.desktop
[07:45] <bobo37773> tristan3199: or whatever those are all shortcuts more or less
[07:46] <Xunil> Hi everyone, I got two problems 1) I am trying to connect to ubuntu computers using a cross-over-cable and setting one computer to "shared internet" and the other normal - but it cannot connect and 2) npviewer.bin is taking all my CPU and nautilus all my RAM
[07:47] <lagbox> mark_morcom, sudo doesnt do what you think ... or you phrased that wrong ... what file
[07:47] <bobo37773> mark_morcom: does that directory exist?
[07:48] <mark_morcom> I typed this into the terminal to edit the xml file that controls mousekeys
[07:48] <mark_morcom> sudo gedit /home/mark/.gconf/desktop/gnome/accessibility/keyboard/%gconf.xml
[07:48] <bobo37773> wookienz: Did you figure it out?
[07:48] <lagbox> Xunil, how about pinging the other computer
[07:48] <mark_morcom> The output was as above
[07:48] <lagbox> mark_morcom, dont
[07:48] <lagbox> mark_morcom, and stop trying to edit that file
[07:48] <shovell> bobo37773,  what is d3d anyways?
[07:49] <mark_morcom> k
[07:49] <mark_morcom> The folder does not exist by the way :)
[07:49] <lagbox> mark_morcom,    are you mark on your system
[07:49] <mark_morcom> Yip
[07:49] <bobo37773> I don't think %gconf.xml is something you want to mess with
[07:49] <bobo37773> shovell: directx direct3d stuff     it is for windows games
[07:49] <gemunu> I've installed XBMC on ubuntu 10.04.3 and now I wanna add xbmc session to GRUB boot loader. Is it possible?
[07:49] <nemessys> how can instal internet explorer and messenger?
[07:49] <bobo37773> shovell: Are you trying to run a game in wine or something?
[07:49] <Xunil> lagbox: Doesn't work
[07:49] <shovell> bobo37773,  yes
[07:49] <Xunil> lagbox: nm-applet can't even connect to the wired network
[07:50] <lagbox> Xunil, i don't know much about cross over networking
[07:50] <lagbox> Xunil, what wired network ?
[07:50] <bobo37773> shovell: Do you have winetricks or playonlinux installed?
[07:50] <wookienz> bobo37773: yeah i was using find command, so i used -exec to run it. thanks
[07:50] <Xunil> well - DHCP-connection (normal network) on the one PC and "shared internet on the other" - or is that a wrong configuration?
[07:50] <shovell> bobo37773, yes to both and i cant figure out playonlinux
[07:51] <bobo37773> wookienz: Right on
[07:51] <subb1> hi, I have the following fdisk o/p : http://paste.ubuntu.com/816193/   . Is it possible for me to create a new partition of 1G size?
[07:51] <wookienz> guys i have a bin file that was used to infect my webserver. I have no idea what it does but i would like t ruin it locally to see what it does. Any ideas on how i could do this safely?
[07:51] <lagbox> Xunil, i don't know if that is correct ... it is more of a direct connection then a network
[07:52] <lagbox> wookienz, maybe a virtual box
[07:52] <bobo37773> shovell: run "winetricks d3dx9_36" or just winetricks to open the gui
[07:52] <Xunil> so - what would the correct configuration be? I also tried "manual" configuration using some 172.16.-ips and "link-only"
[07:52] <Cyberspaceloa> VM sandbox is the only option I can think of, wookienz
[07:52] <lagbox> mark_morcom, you tried system -> preferences -> keyboard -> mouse keys ?
[07:53] <bobo37773> shovell: What is the name of the game you are trying to play?
[07:53] <shovell> bobo doing now
[07:53] <shovell> bobo37773,  sorry i am doing it now
[07:54] <bobo37773> shovell: You may need some other stuff too for the game to run right depending on the game
[07:54] <shovell> bobo37773,  star trek armada 2
[07:54] <shovell> bobo37773,  i looked in appdb and there is no real help
[07:54] <mark_morcom> lagbox, In Gnome I can't find Preferences: I did find system setting and I looked at the keyboard setting and there is no mouse key options
[07:55] <bobo37773> shovell: you might need to also do -->           "winetricks corefonts vcrun6"
[07:56] <shovell> so wth does this mean?
[07:56] <shovell> bobo37773,  fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 16
[07:56] <dran> hello, what should i do if i accidentally removed /boot ?
[07:57] <bobo37773> shovell: No idea. Did you try "winetricks corefonts vcrun6" already?
[07:57] <shovell> bobo37773,  just did
[07:57] <lagbox> mark_morcom, did you say 11.10 ?
[07:57] <shovell> bobo37773, i am also having audio issues lol
[07:57] <bobo37773> shovell: What driver / video card are you using?
[07:58] <mark_morcom> Yip lagbox - and running Gnome 3 - because I hate UNITY
[07:58] <Kartagis> if I'm seeing a stranger IP in netstat -antlp, how can I trace its process and shut it down?
[07:58] <bobo37773> shovell: Yeah, audio can be a nightmare sometimes
[07:58] <shovell> bobo37773,  amd something i cant remember the command to look
[07:58] <lagbox> mark_morcom, gnome-keyboard-properties
[07:58] <shovell> bobo37773,  it is a built in video card
[07:59] <bobo37773> shovell: nvidia or ati?
[07:59] <Humbedooh> Kartagis, using lsof maybe?
[07:59] <lagbox> mark_morcom, in gnome2 it has an option for what you need
[07:59] <bobo37773> shovell: Does the game load at all now?
[07:59] <Kartagis> Humbedooh: lsof gives me a too long list
[07:59] <shovell> bobo37773, radeon?
[07:59] <bobo37773> shovell: Yeah, that's ati
[08:00] <Humbedooh> you could shorten it down through grep or by selecting the port to check :)
[08:00] <shovell> bobo37773,  yes it loads but it fails after some time
[08:00] <bobo37773> shovell: Are you using the closed source drivers or opensource?
[08:00] <shovell> bobo37773,  closed i am sure
[08:01] <Humbedooh> Kartagis, if fx it was listening on port 80, you would do 'lsof -i:80'
[08:02] <mike_ega> what's wrong with my downloaded ubuntu 11.10 live cd.. it hangs in boot. I never succeed loading it, even the version 10.10. I think the 8.10 version is better.
[08:02] <bobo37773> shovell: What version of wine?
[08:02] <shovell> bobo i just upgraded to 1.3.37 i think
[08:02] <shovell> bobo37773,  i just upgraded to 1.3.37 i think
[08:02] <lagbox> mike_ega, you might need to pass some arguments to the kernel at boot time
[08:03]  * Humbedooh saw 1.3.37 and immediate thought "That's an oooold Apache..."
[08:03] <bobo37773> shovell: I don't see why it wouldn't work. It has good ratings on winedb
[08:03] <bobo37773> shovell: Weird
[08:03] <Kartagis> Humbedooh: seems to work, thanks
[08:03] <dran> hello, I accidentally formatted my boot partition, can someone help?
[08:03] <mark_morcom> lagbox, There is no option for that: This is the available options: http://codepad.org/FXiJu3vO
[08:03] <Humbedooh> you're welcome
[08:03] <Kartagis> last night some IP from korea was in my netstat list
[08:04] <shovell> bobo37773, i am gonna run the game and have it print the output to a file and see how it goes
[08:05] <chromaticwt> how do I sha256sum a mounted cd as an iso image? will it have the same sum as the original .iso I burned it from?
[08:05] <bobo37773> shovell: I cannot analyze wine errors. It still looks like heiroglyphics to me. Sorry man
[08:05] <shovell> bobo37773,  no problem i appreciate the help you have given me
[08:06] <Kartagis> is it possible to filter top to show only some lines? namely lines 1-6 and httpd processes
[08:06] <mike_ega> the farthest I gone is in the shell.
[08:06] <jason404> how do I check if something is installed from the repository, witout actually installing it?
[08:06] <bobo37773> shovell: No problem. I hope you figure it out. Make sure to check on winehq.org
[08:06] <Kartagis> jason404: dpkg -l *package*
[08:06] <mark_morcom> 1212121212 - lagbox - I just typed that on my numpad - Somehow - with all the messing around it got fixed - Im just not sure how :/
[08:07] <jason404> Kartagis: thanks
[08:07] <metaspike> Kartagis: probably.
[08:07] <bobo37773> chromaticwt: Use k3b or similar to create a new iso from the disk you burned. That should produce the same checksum
[08:07] <lagbox> mark_morcom, well hope for the best i suppose
[08:07] <Kartagis> jason404: np, metaspike: how?
[08:07] <_skpl> for some reason after i select my os from the grub menu it takes forever to load ubuntu, anyone knwo why?
[08:07] <lagbox> mark_morcom, i know nothing about gnome3
[08:07] <mark_morcom> Thanks for you time and help lagbox - It is greatly appreciated
[08:07] <Cyberspaceloa> jason404: I always use dpkg --get-selections | grep package
[08:08] <metaspike> Kartagis: im not sure about it's switches, but you can grep it.   top | grep httpd
[08:08] <Xunil> So - does anybody have a link helping on configuring computer-to-computer ethernet connections?
[08:08] <bobo37773> later everyone take care
[08:08] <lagbox> _skpl, after the boot menu, hit enter a bunch and see if that causes a change
[08:08] <Ben64> Xunil: 1. connect ethernet cable 2. done
[08:08] <lagbox> Xunil, did you try the ubuntu forum ?
[08:08] <jason404> Kartagis: that does n;t seem to work. I'll try what Cyberspaceloa said
[08:08] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: are you talking ad-hoc networking?
[08:08] <lagbox> bobo37773, be good
[08:09] <Kartagis> jason404: sorry, did you prefix in with sudo?
[08:09] <Xunil> lagbox: Yeah
[08:09] <Xunil> Cyberspaceloa: Yes
[08:09] <Xunil> But not using wlan, using cable
[08:09] <ZynuiMaiche> Hello!  Does anybody have time to help a n00b get internet working with ubuntu-netbook?
[08:09] <jason404> Cyberspaceloa: cheers, that workd
[08:09] <Kartagis> sudo dpkg -l *package*
[08:09] <jason404> Kartagis: ues, of course
[08:09] <jason404> yes
[08:09] <Xunil> Ben64: Well ... doesn't really work for me, so I think I need to configure someething
[08:09] <ZynuiMaiche> sweet!
[08:09] <ZynuiMaiche> thanks
[08:09] <Cyberspaceloa> jason404: no prob
[08:10] <Ben64> Xunil: do you have a router
[08:10] <ZynuiMaiche> kind of
[08:10] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: I seem to remember that Wicd has some tools for ad hoc
[08:10] <ZynuiMaiche> i dont have access to the router
[08:10] <jason404> Kartagis: ah sorry, I was typing -i
[08:10] <ZynuiMaiche> just that i can connect through wireless (apartment complex)
[08:10] <Kartagis> jason404: no sweat
[08:10] <metaspike> if your life support system runs ubuntu, is there some way to prioritise your request for help?
[08:10] <MestreLion> ZynuiMaiche: what do you mean by "ubuntu-netbook" ? You mean 10.04 Lucid Lynx Netbook Edition ?
[08:11] <Xunil> Ben64: Yes, but "somewhere else". I am connected to the router by wlan
[08:11] <bullgard4> '~$ sntop; HOST=Gator; STATUS=Down; COMMENT=local linux/alpha server'. What kind of host is »Gator«?
[08:11] <Xunil> and I am using different internet connections for each computer (due to some network stability problems)
[08:11] <Ben64> Xunil: ok... so then explain what you want to do, you're not being very clear
[08:11] <Xunil> Cyberspaceloa: Thanks, will try that
[08:11] <Slart> metaspike: I think there are several options for paid support from canonical and others.. relying on an irc-channel for supporting your life-support-system seems a bit.. scary =)
[08:12] <ZynuiMaiche> Ummm.  It's 10.04 netbook remix I think
[08:12] <Xunil> Ben64: I want to connect the computers in order to be able to do fast VNC/ssh -X/file transfer/etc.
[08:12] <ZynuiMaiche> let me verify real quick
[08:12] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: I'm looking for some material I may have found once
[08:12] <metaspike> Slart: dont be alarmed, it was a hypothetical question that's been bugging me. thanks :)
[08:12] <lagbox> i still cant get nautilus to open as default file manager ... what the f* is gnomes deal with that
[08:12] <Ben64> Xunil: then hook both of them up to the router with a cable
[08:13] <MestreLion> metaspike: Cannonnical offers paid support for that exact reason ;)
[08:13] <Xunil> Ben64: I don't have a that long cable and it would be rather uncomfortable
[08:13] <lagbox> is there a gnome version of kde's systemsettings ?
[08:13] <Xunil> they are located  on different floors
[08:13] <Xunil> *in
[08:13] <MestreLion> metaspike: it is it's main revenue, besides Mark's pocket ;)
[08:14] <ZynuiMaiche> I downloaded the file "ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent" under the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS section on alternative downloads
[08:14] <Ben64> Xunil: if you can't connect them, then what do you want to do?! you're asking about hooking them up via ethernet!
[08:14] <MestreLion> ZynuiMaiche: its the same I use... I could help you... PM if you want
[08:14] <rhom> how to copy the specify font frm  /usr/share/fonts it really confusing coz the display name and the file name is different!
[08:14] <ZynuiMaiche> Ok will do, thanks Jason404 for the help too :)
[08:15] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1293005
[08:15] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: that might be a good research starting point
[08:15] <jason404> ZynuiMaiche?
[08:15] <ZynuiMaiche> actually
[08:15] <ZynuiMaiche> i can't pm...
[08:15] <lagbox> Why the hell does gnome hide exo-preferred-applications ... as a completely seperate app then the Preferences -> Preferred Applications .... what a load of crap ... why is that not in the menu
[08:15] <ZynuiMaiche> i'm just using the website
[08:16] <Xunil> Cyberspaceloa: Thanks - Ben64: No, I want to create a direct connection between them using a cross-over-cable
[08:16] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: obviously in order to utilize the connection you'll need at least a single service running, which may have been the original poster's problem
[08:16] <Ben64> Xunil: hook them up with a crossover then, and set ip addresses
[08:17] <Xunil> Ben64: I tried that - using "manual" settings in NetworkManager, but what do I need to set as gateway?
[08:17] <Ben64> don't need gateway
[08:17] <MestreLion> ZynuiMaiche: when addressing someone here, try to type the persons name before your line... (just try "mest" and then hit TAB to auto-complete)... otherwise most people will fail to see you lines among the other ones
[08:18] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: here is a possible alternative to crossover cables - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[08:18] <MestreLion> ZynuiMaiche: oh, website IRC access? install xchat right now :P
[08:19] <Xunil> Ben64: ok, than could I set one IP to 172.16.0.1, the other to 172.16.0.2 and configure the subnetmask to 255.255.255.0?
[08:19] <Ben64> Xunil: yep
[08:20] <suleman> hi
[08:21] <Xunil> Ben64: Ok - so I did exactly that and couldn't even ping to each other computer.
[08:21] <Xunil> Cyberspaceloa: Adhoc-Networks do work, but unfortunately I need the wifi-connection for connecting to the internet
[08:22] <metaspike> lagbox: something like this: sudo update-alternatives --config file-manager
[08:23] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: Ben64's direction seems to agree with this thread here - http://forums.techarena.in/networking-security/1138960.htm
[08:23] <metaspike> Xunil: does ifconfig show a eth connection?
[08:23] <Ben64> make sure its a crossover cable
[08:24] <i42n> metaspike: yes
[08:24] <Xunil> metaspike: Yes
[08:24] <Xunil> Ah, so maybe I shouldn't use 172.16.0.1 as adress, but 172.16.0.2 and upwards?
[08:24] <Ben64> doesn't matter
[08:25] <metaspike> might want to take a look at the routers designated range? also, dhcpd can help, if you use dhcp...
[08:26] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: do you have any firewall rules running?
[08:27] <specelectron> как установить isq
[08:27] <Xunil> Cyberspaceloa: Not explicitly
[08:27] <Xunil> maybe ubuntu has configured something automatically
[08:27] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: check with "sudo iptables-save"
[08:29] <Kartagis> !ru | specelectron
[08:29] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: or "sudo ufw status" if you have ufw
[08:31] <rhom> any idea how to copy ttf fonts?
[08:32] <metaspike> rhom, install or extract from usr/share/
[08:32] <Cyberspaceloa> Xunil: here is a simple how-to for crossover cable networking in ubuntu - http://www.ehow.com/how_7193141_set-up-ubuntu-crossover-cable.html
[08:32] <Cyberspaceloa> sorry, but I have to lurk for a while. Hope I helped a bit, Xunil
[08:32] <aBound> Lurking around.
[08:33] <tristan3199> sysRPL: you there?
[08:33] <metaspike> lurkers o_o
[08:33] <tristan3199> how do i add security to my router??
[08:33] <theadmin> tristan3199: That doesn't make sense at all :P
[08:33] <aBound> Tristam, Doesn't sound like a Ubuntu problem.
[08:34] <aBound> Oops tristan3199 hehe
[08:34] <theadmin> specelectron: Используйте Empathy (он предустановлен) либо Pidgin (есть в репозиториях), официальный ICQ-клиент под Linux пока в разработке. Так же посетите #ubuntu-ru , здесь русский не приветствуется
[08:35] <Pharaoh> What's the best operating system for a noob like me?
[08:35] <tristan3199> sysrpl mentioned earlier that i was vulnrablue.. im using ubuntu and need to add some sort of security it seems.. was brought to my attention that people could mess my stuff up..
[08:36] <metaspike> tristan3199: there are many was to tighten a computers security, let me explain in brief...
[08:36] <theadmin> Pharaoh: You're asking this in #ubuntu and won't get an objective response. Can you PM me? I'll try to find the right thing for you :D
[08:36] <iceroot> Pharaoh: the one you like most
[08:38] <somsip> tristan3199: usually a router can allow, or disallow, traffic to flow through from one side to the other. Normally you have little (if any) going form the net to your PC, but al traffic is usually open from your PC to the net. I would not rely on what someone else has told you about the openness of your system. Check it yourself using something like Shields Up at www.grc.com
[08:38] <rhom> is there anything about the listing of the fonts?
[08:38] <bazhang> Pharaoh, wrong place to poll. #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:38] <somsip> rhom: only if you the whole thing
[08:38] <tristan3199> metaspike: it was in this room sysrpl said he "fingered" me and i felt a lil vulnrable..
[08:39] <iceroot> tristan3199: you should have a look what "finger" means on irc
[08:39] <tristan3199> thank u somsip
[08:39] <somsip> tristan3199: It may be that sysrpl is dead right with what he says, but maybe no need to be alarmed until you know you have cause to be alarmed
[08:40] <rhin0> anyone know why i can't get packages these days from synaptic
[08:40] <rhin0> is just stalled
[08:40] <metaspike> tristan3199: in ubuntu, the LTS release is in principle the most mature and secure. more running services means more space for exploitation to occur, as does a tight firewall configuration, as does an extensive blacklist, as does proper use of user permissions for running programs.
[08:40] <Xunil> Cyberspaceloa: Sorry, status: inactive. Thanks for the howto, will try it out @home
[08:41] <rhin0> how do I manually donwload/install packages from synaptic
[08:41] <rhin0> of synaptic
[08:41] <rhin0> where are they what format are then - .deb?
[08:41] <rhin0> synaptic doesn't work anymore
[08:41] <metaspike> * eep, consider a tight firewall config... etc.
[08:41] <iceroot> rhin0: sudo apt-get install packagename
[08:42] <rhin0> ok i know that it says cannot find running update
[08:42] <rhin0> ok -=- ddint' have repositories tickbox clicked
[08:42] <rhin0> sorry - np
[08:42] <mufflon> rhin0: perhaps is your source down this moment
[08:42] <rhin0> no its that
[08:43] <programmeduser> Anyone know how to remove the authentication request every time you try to do something?
[08:43] <Bry8Star> Hi, what would you recommend as a Firewall for an Ubuntu used on desktop/workstation/laptop?
[08:43] <rhin0> brystar ufw
[08:43] <rhin0> "unlimited firewall"
[08:43] <rhin0> use the ubuntu firewall
[08:44] <Slart> programmeduser: if you get an authentication request every time you try to do something you're probably doing something wrong.. or doing very specific things.. but you can check the sudoers configuration file.. that might let you get away with more things without entering passwords
[08:44] <Bry8Star> Is there Firewall that can give out instant popup of any new traffic and wait for its user's response, and also checks which app has initiated that traffic, shows ip, port, host, reverse-address, etc in that popup
[08:44] <programmeduser> Firestarter aswell.
[08:44] <somsip> rhin0: ufw - uncomplicated fire wall
[08:44] <rhin0> Bry8Star its actually called "uncomplicated firewall"
[08:45] <exogrim> anyone that can help me with the ssh config file? i get the message /etc/ssh/ssh_config: line 55: Bad configuration option: Hostkey
[08:45] <Bry8Star> ... I see, thanks rhin0
[08:45] <rhin0> brystar its the simplest one - and robust
[08:45] <somsip> exogrim: what are you trying to do?
[08:45] <Slart> Bry8Star: I've never seen a firewall with those specs on linux.. iptables is more of a "runs in the background, never to be seen" kind of app
[08:45] <exogrim> ssh into a server i have
[08:45] <programmeduser> I generally happens when i'm getting apps off of USC Slart :
[08:45] <somsip> !tab | exogrim
[08:46] <somsip> exogrim: ok...what are you trying to achieve by adding Hostkey to the config file?
[08:46] <exogrim> somsip, sry
[08:46] <somsip> exogrim: just makes it is - np
[08:46] <Slart> programmeduser: yes, installing stuff will require authentication.. as it should, imho
[08:46] <Pharaoh> Bazhang I'm already getting helped.....
[08:46] <somsip> *easier
[08:46] <Bry8Star> so ubuntu/linux remains unprotedted, without an effective firewall?
[08:46] <exogrim> somsip, i havent added anything to the config file, its fresh from installation
[08:47] <metaspike> exogrim: host requres authentication key?
[08:47] <iceroot> Bry8Star: there is no reason for a personal firewall
[08:47] <Bry8Star> Is it thats why there so many hacks possible on Linux by the hackers?
[08:47] <Bry8Star> Thats there is no effective firewall!
[08:48] <Cyberspaceloa> lol
[08:48] <dies_irae> wtf is the new ubuntu HUD thingie???
[08:48] <Slart> dies_irae: no need for the language.. even in shortened form
[08:48] <metaspike> Bry8Star: the most effective security goes unnoticed - if you want to see your traffic with a handy gui consider wireshark
[08:48] <somsip> exogrim: ah - ssh_config not ~ssh/.config. My mistake. Can you edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config and see what it at line 55?
[08:48] <programmeduser> It just remind me of Windows with that damn uvc pop up :(
[08:48] <programmeduser> reminds*
[08:49] <dies_irae> Slart: 'what the fun'
[08:49] <ripthejacker> buntu software center says no internet connection when im connected to internet
[08:49] <ripthejacker> please help
[08:49] <Slart> dies_irae: nice try..
[08:49] <exogrim> somsip, Hostkey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
[08:49] <Bry8Star> I find it very odd and that so much advance in various area, and yet there is no GUI based good firewall in Linux!
[08:49] <blackhex666> can someone explain me how to package a java app
[08:50] <metaspike> Bry8Star: firestarter
[08:50] <dies_irae> lawl@GUI based firewall
[08:50] <bazhang> Bry8Star, try gufw
[08:50] <rhin01> Bry8Star its robust - it works - the commands are simple - you do not need a gui for a firewall
[08:50] <dies_irae> and lawl@GUI=advanced
[08:50] <rhin01> ufw commands are about as simple as they can be
[08:50] <Cyberspaceloa> Bry8Star, the functionality you're asking for is modular in linux
[08:50] <iceroot> Bry8Star: who says that there are many hacks possible on linux?
[08:50] <bazhang> dies_irae, lets stop the extraneous commentary please. #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[08:50] <somsip> exogrim: does that file exist?
[08:50] <Cyberspaceloa> Bry8Star: for network analysis, consider the netstat command
[08:50] <rhin01> go into it look at it - it's actually easier than a gui -- btw there WILL BE a gui frontend somewhere for ufw
[08:50] <Bry8Star> Something that can give out instant popup with all info on a traffic/packets so that proper rules can be created quickly... In a firewall...
[08:50] <ripthejacker> can somebody help me
[08:50] <ripthejacker> please
[08:50] <exogrim> somsip, yes
[08:50] <Swarnava> i tried to install Ubuntu on top of Windows 7
[08:51] <Swarnava> i mean with dual boot
[08:51] <rhin01> besides it
[08:51] <Swarnava> but i cant
[08:51] <Swarnava> can anyone help me
[08:51] <bazhang> Bry8Star, gufw is the gui for ufw
[08:51] <Bry8Star> If there is no hacks on Linux.. Then how GOd and other sites went belly-up?
[08:51] <rhin01> it should resize windows
[08:51] <Swarnava> i have 3 drive with NFTS format, and windows is loaded on C
[08:51] <rhin01> partition
[08:51] <Bry8Star> GOV
[08:51] <Swarnava> and i want to install Fedora on D
[08:51] <rhin01> if you have the windows 7 disks -- consider running widnwos 7 within virtual box within ubunt :)
[08:51] <Swarnava> sorry i mean Ubuntu
[08:52] <rhin01> you're going to have to play aruond a bit with installation media and ensure you have backups
[08:52] <ripthejacker> Swarnava, so what error u get when installing
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Swarnava: Before we can help you, you need to explain what problem you had trying to do it.
[08:52] <Swarnava> rhin01: i have backup
[08:52] <rhin01> having windows as a little minimilizable window within ubuntu is nice
[08:52] <iceroot> Bry8Star: normally a website is taking down by bad passwords, sql infection and so on
[08:52] <Bry8Star> Thanks... Bazhang... Metaspike.. I wil try out those
[08:52] <exogrim> somsip, from what i can read it contains my private host key...
[08:52] <ripthejacker> Swarnava, is there enough free space in d
[08:52] <Swarnava> the D is totally blank
[08:53] <Swarnava> but 3 drive are in NFTS format not ext4
[08:53] <Bry8Star> The first thing a computer needs after installing an OS... IS a FIREWALL
[08:53] <Bry8Star> Nothing else
[08:53] <Swarnava> when i go to select drive
[08:53] <iceroot> Bry8Star: no
[08:53] <Swarnava> i choose D
[08:53] <ripthejacker> and then?
[08:53] <iceroot> Bry8Star: and stop telling those lies please
[08:53] <Swarnava> he said that no /root folder or somethingfound
[08:53] <rhin01> Bry8Star "sudo ufw enable" (password) enables the firewall
[08:53] <Swarnava> not found*
[08:53] <blackhex666> Swarnava: delete the partition from ubuntu install and then create you`re "D" partition
[08:54] <somsip> exogrim: you got me here. I can't find anything about that keyword in man
[08:54] <Swarnava> i tried to delete it complete then i create a new drive
[08:54] <Swarnava> something sda6
[08:54] <Swarnava> but still it not work
[08:54] <Swarnava> :O
[08:54] <blackhex666> what extension?
[08:54] <exogrim> hmmm
[08:54] <Bry8Star> Thanks, rhin01.. I'm getting into it
[08:54] <Swarnava> same error
[08:55] <bullgard4> '~$ sntop; HOST=Gator; STATUS=Down; COMMENT=local linux/alpha server'. What kind of host is »Gator«? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gator: "Gator may refer to: Gator, or 'Gator AdServ a piece of adware or spyware shipped with many pieces of peer to peer software'.
[08:55] <Jordan_U> Swarnava: Follow these instructions to install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[08:55] <blackhex666> Swarnava:  what extension did you make the new partition?
[08:55] <metaspike> Swarnava: sda6? I suspect incorrect LVM (logical volume management) use?
[08:55] <programmeduser> Swarnava: Are you running windows aswell?
[08:55] <Swarnava> currently i am using Windows 7
[08:56] <dies_irae> how to downloand Cinnamon?
[08:56] <Swarnava> i have Ubuntu CD
[08:56] <FluxiFlax2022> hi all I am compiling a maptile for a GPS app and it creates hundres of thousands of files in a partition, the partition is 20GB at 6.xGB usage I get an error no more space on disk, I remove a tile image and was able to replace it with a 5GB file, which makes me assume tha the problem is with the nubmer of files created rather than the size of the files, I am running this as root on 11.10 ... the max number files I could reach was 1308648
[08:56] <metaspike> so much easier to install linux to its own harddrive...
[08:57] <Myrtti> dies_irae: this is #ubuntu, not a Mint channel
[08:57] <FluxiFlax2022> filesystem is ext4
[08:57] <dies_irae> w00t
[08:57] <programmeduser> Swarnava, the simpleset way i found installing 11.10 was using the Wubi.exe as mentioned by Jordan_U. it saves alot of heartache.
[08:57] <dies_irae> Myrtti: Cinnamon is not a distro
[08:57] <Jordan_U> programmeduser: Swarnava: I did not, and generally do not, recommend using Wubi.
[08:57] <Myrtti> dies_irae: and Cinnamon isn't officially available or supported in Ubuntu
[08:57] <metaspike> FluxiFlax2022: have a look at btrfs on wikipedia it has higher limits but some disadvantages also..
[08:57] <Swarnava> programmeduser: i use dialup modem so my net connection is too slow to download ubuntu via wubi
[08:58] <somsip> exogrim: got to suggest it, though it might be a bad idea - comment it out and see what you get
[08:58] <Slart> FluxiFlax2022: I'm not sure what the limits are for number of files.. have you checked in wikipedia? I think they have a list of specs for different file systems
[08:58] <metaspike> FluxiFlax2022: also, the limits of ext4 are probably tunable- not sure how though.
[08:59] <programmeduser> Jordan_U: My apologies, i thought you linked the Wubi link. XD
[08:59] <blackhex666> so anyone can explain me how to package a java application??preferably step by step
[08:59] <Swarnava> i ordered cd from store
[08:59] <exogrim> somsip, brb, have to logg on my other network without internet
[08:59] <rhin0> why is there a delay from canonical for packages now -- has been like that for weeks
[08:59] <programmeduser> Well, i take that back, thats my recommendation.
[08:59] <rhin0> takes ages waiting b4 it commences download
[09:00] <somsip> exogrim: it does seem that is a directive for sshd_config, not ssh_config
[09:00] <metaspike> blackhex666: package? you mean.. compile a .jar file?
[09:00] <dies_irae> Myrtti: weird, may I know why??
[09:00] <blackhex666> metaspike: making a .deb
[09:00] <ripthejacker> Swarnava, what option did u choose for installation alongside windows or create partition manually?
[09:01] <ripthejacker> and somebody please help me with software center
[09:01] <Swarnava> i tried both
[09:01] <blackhex666> Swarnava: neither worked?
[09:01] <Swarnava> programmeduser: Jordan_U blackhex666 ripthejacker metaspike  should i try to disable Kaspersky Security Firewall?
[09:01] <ripthejacker> ?
[09:01] <ripthejacker> how will that help u
[09:02] <exogrim> somsip, it worked, thanks for the help
[09:02] <programmeduser> Swarnava, try disabling your Internet all together.
[09:02] <Swarnava> i dont know why this is not work :(
[09:02] <metaspike> blackhex666: i guess you could use the dpkg-buildpackage method?
[09:02] <exogrim> somsip, dont know why i didnt think about trying that before asking :S
[09:02] <somsip> exogrim: might be worth just checking a bit more to make sur eI haven't told you to disable something vital. I still think that's a sshd directive thought
[09:02] <Swarnava> i will try and come later
[09:02] <dies_irae> Myrtti: what do you mean by not supported? there's a Ubuntu .deb package on Cinnamon site.
[09:02] <Swarnava> thanq
[09:03] <ripthejacker> please someone help me
[09:03] <dies_irae> I don't understand
[09:03] <exogrim> somsip, i'll do some more research to see if it can damage my system
[09:03] <Myrtti> dies_irae: it's not in Ubuntu repositories then, is it?
[09:03] <metaspike> ripthejacker: software-centre has no internet connection? does the computer have a connection otherwise/
[09:03] <somsip> exogrim: cool
[09:03] <ripthejacker> metaspike, yes i am connected to freenode by that
[09:04] <ripthejacker> right now
[09:04] <dies_irae> Myrtti: no idea, I am on LiveUSB atm.
[09:04] <Myrtti> dies_irae: you can package everything and the kitchen sink into a .deb package and distribute it at your website, it doesn't make it supported by Ubuntu
[09:04] <ripthejacker> metaspike, even my network manager says no internet connection
[09:04] <dies_irae> Myrtti: oh I see your point.
[09:05] <Myrtti> dies_irae: same goes for PPA's
[09:05] <dies_irae> Myrtti: the way you worded it earlier sounded like it's was blocked or something.
[09:05] <metaspike> ripthejacker: did you install anything or change something before this started?
[09:05] <ripthejacker> metaspike, no, it has been like this forever
[09:06] <Myrtti> dies_irae: it's not blocked, you can break your system whichever way you want; we just refuse to help you in the effort and try to convince no to try
[09:06] <metaspike> ripthejacker: weird... for starters try a complete update. in console: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:07] <ripthejacker> metaspike, everything is updated
[09:07] <metaspike> hmmm
[09:07] <Dixie_> whats broken? o.O
[09:07] <wookienz> guys im looking for a commadn that searches all permissions on directories and lets me know if it is owed by a certain user
[09:07] <ripthejacker> metaspike, i can use synaptics to install packages
[09:08] <ripthejacker> *though
[09:08] <theadmin> wookienz: ls -l blah
[09:08] <Dixie_> what are we troubleshooting here? i feel left out
[09:09] <metaspike> ripthejacker: let me guess 11.10?
[09:09] <ripthejacker> why should software center look up network manager to see if system is connected to internet?
[09:09] <ripthejacker> metaspike, yes
[09:09] <metaspike> yep... there's probably a workaround (damn buggy freakin *grumble gruble)
[09:10] <wookienz> i want to search the entire server adn note every directory that has the group user. ls -l wont cut it
[09:10] <bazhang> Dixie_, ubuntu
[09:10] <Dixie_> i figured that lol, no wireless or something?
[09:10] <ripthejacker> Dixie_,  software center says im not connected to internet when i am
[09:10] <llutz> wookienz: find path/ -user <username>
[09:10] <bazhang> Dixie_, whose problem are you addressing
[09:10] <metaspike> ripthejacker: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60004/ubuntu-software-center-not-recognising-my-network-connection
[09:10] <AlanBell> ripthejacker: how are you connected to the internet? by an analog modem or something netwokr manager doesn't manage?
[09:12] <ripthejacker> AlanBell, something network manager doesnt manager
[09:12] <ripthejacker> its apppoe connection
[09:12] <smittix> wookienz: For finding files owned by a certain user you could do "find / -user username
[09:13] <AlanBell> ripthejacker: ok, that will be the problem then :( so firefox keeps flipping to offline mode and gwibber doesn't work etc. etc.
[09:13] <ripthejacker> AlanBell, thankfully firefox and every other applis that require internet works
[09:14] <ripthejacker> AlanBell, its just the software center
[09:14] <AlanBell> network manager can do pppoe connections these days I think
[09:15] <ripthejacker> metaspike,  what do i put in dns and gateway it changes all the time i connect to isp
[09:15] <ripthejacker> metaspike, sorry for being noob
[09:16] <aBound> ripthejacker, We were all that way. :P
[09:16] <ripthejacker> AlanBell, i tried that but it takes a lot of time and still does not find any pppoe services
[09:16] <ripthejacker> AlanBell, so i used rp-pppoe for it
[09:17] <metaspike> ripthejacker: open a terminal, ifconfig -a , take a look at your connected device, and all the details should be there.
[09:18] <bullgard4> '~$ sntop; HOST=Gator; STATUS=Down; COMMENT=local linux/alpha server'. What kind of host is »Gator«? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gator: "Gator may refer to: Gator, or 'Gator AdServ a piece of adware or spyware shipped with many pieces of peer to peer software'.
[09:18] <metaspike> ripthejacker: you can deliberately run the network manager applet with nm-applet. ensure there's nothing else conflicting, wicd or whatever.
[09:18] <ikonia> bullgard4: not an ubuntu issue
[09:19] <ripthejacker> nm-applet is running what should i do with it
[09:19] <ripthejacker> and the gateways address changes every time i connect
[09:20] <metaspike> ripthejacker: what are you using to connect?!
[09:20] <ripthejacker> rp-pppoe :P
[09:20] <ripthejacker> but it should not be an issue since every other application can detect my internet connection
[09:21] <ripthejacker> including xchat
[09:21] <metaspike> mobile broadband?
[09:22] <ripthejacker> no cable
[09:23] <metaspike> the link i posted earlier suggested dummy interfaces as a workaround untill the bug is fixed via updates.
[09:23] <Deiu> Hello!
[09:23] <Buzzby> Does anyone have vmware 7 runnin in the latest Ubuntu?
[09:23] <ikonia> Buzzby: vmware 7 ?
[09:23] <metaspike> Buzzby: i use qemu instead :)
[09:24] <Deiu> Any ideas why I have a persisting problem with ubuntu one? -> File Sync error. (auth failed (AUTH_FAILED))
[09:24] <Buzzby> vmware workstation 7
[09:24] <Deiu> I tried clearing cache, removing password keys, etc.
[09:24] <Buzzby> I am not too familiar with qemu.
[09:24] <ikonia> Buzzby: nope, the guys in #vmware maybe though
[09:25] <AlanBell> ripthejacker: yeah, applications that just try to connect will work. "Well behaved" applications should query network manager via dbus to get the online status, and these don't work.
[09:26] <Guest7477> hi
[09:26] <metaspike> Deiu: it's been suggested that one can -  sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/ubuntuone - to remove dirty bits then resync, worth investigating before execution.
[09:26] <bullgard4> Ubuntu 10.04.3 Synaptic notices for the DEB program package »ntop« version 1.4.3-4: "Canonical does not provide updates for sntop. Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community." Why does Ubuntu 11.10 not notice the same?
[09:27] <Guest7477> hi
[09:27] <Deiu> metaspike, I tried that already, it doesn't work.
[09:28] <Guest7477> Deiu> u there?
[09:28] <Guest7477> hi
[09:28] <stkr> My notifications stopped working, so no wireless, no battery, no notifications of any kind. I think it happened after an upgrade. Any idea how to debug ?
[09:28] <Deiu> Guest7447, yes
[09:28] <stkr> this is 10.04.3 LTS
[09:29] <Guest7477> it tells me that i need something to join a channel
[09:29] <Guest7477> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[09:29] <Guest7477> thats what it says
[09:29] <Guest7477> how can i solve that?
[09:29] <stkr> network is also down, btw (dunno how to start the graphical network tool)
[09:29] <FloodBot1> Guest7477: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <Guest7477> is there a main help channel?
[09:29] <metaspike> Deiu: is your computers clock correct?
[09:29] <bazhang> #freenode Guest7477
[09:29] <Guest7477> thanks
[09:29] <Deiu> metaspike, not really, you got a point there!
[09:29] <jatt> join hardware
[09:30] <bazhang> jatt, /join ##hardware
[09:30] <metaspike> Deiu: if the clock is wrong, time-stamped authentication keys will fail- worth a shot
[09:31] <metaspike> clock/date.
[09:31] <Deiu> Yeah, I know.
[09:31] <Deiu> Didn't notice the clock was wrong..bleah.
[09:31] <Deiu> Thanks!
[09:32] <metaspike> i would set it in bois or use an ntp server. i have to type this stuff out when it comes up or i forget it :D
[09:33] <metaspike> bios*
[09:37] <xsl> hello all anyone has issues with RTL8169sb cards? i'm getting kernel interrupts on the card IRQ, it's disabled then it becomes slower.
[09:40] <dies_irae> damn!! is this  usual??
[09:43] <dies_irae> lawl, this insane!!
[09:43] <Myrtti> what is?
[09:43] <dibblego> I regularly get a dialog telling me that a new version of ubuntu is available -- how do I disable it?
[09:44] <dies_irae> Myrtti: this join/quit flooding, is endless!!
[09:45] <Myrtti> dies_irae: welcome to the one of the biggest channels of freenode
[09:45] <ripthejacker> metaspike, thanks its working now
[09:46] <ripthejacker> :)
[09:46] <ripthejacker> i just had to make a dummy dsl connection in nm
[09:46] <metaspike> glad to hear it!
[09:47] <metaspike> i wish solving issues here unlocked achievments or something, ubucreds
[09:47] <ripthejacker> hehe
[09:47] <ripthejacker> metaspike++
[09:48] <ripthejacker> metaspike, one small doubt rite now i have put in valid values as address and gateway
[09:48] <ripthejacker> metaspike, can i put in dummy values and still expect it to work?
[09:49] <ripthejacker> metaspike, because the address changes everytime i connect to isp and i have to put in manually
[09:50] <z3r0c007> hello
[09:51] <z3r0c007> it is possible to install HUD(Head-Up Display) in ubuntu 11.10
[09:51] <metaspike> if you're using mobile internet, that's normal. if you're using a router, with dhcp - then the router denotes your ip, you should be able to specify your ip permanently with the network manager though
[09:52] <z3r0c007> it is possible to install HUD(Head-Up Display) in ubuntu 11.10
[09:53] <z3r0c007> anyone can help or advise
[09:53] <bazhang> z3r0c007, the one from upcoming release you mean?
[09:54] <z3r0c007> bazhang : yes the upcoming release
[09:56] <bazhang> z3r0c007, the current version is only in PPA, and only available for 12.04 (#ubuntu+1)
[09:57] <z3r0c007> ok, where i can find installer of ubuntu 12.04
[09:57] <bazhang> z3r0c007, the daily build? check #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got ubuntu 11.10 and firefox 9 and am trying to get moonlight working. Any ideas please? trying to view some sites with silverlight and I can't find a suitable alternative :S
[10:00] <quick-> how ca n i disable the default root access in recovery mode in ubuntu 11.04
[10:00] <Buzzby> Besides Netflix, what is silverlight used for?
[10:01] <Myrtti> AdvoWork: Moonlight has been abandoned some time ago and it will not work with anything with DRM in it.
[10:02] <AdvoWork> Myrtti, any alternatives for how I can view things with silverlight?
[10:03] <quick-> how can i disable the default root access in recovery mode in ubuntu 11.04
[10:03] <Myrtti> AdvoWork: without you giving any specifics what you are actually watching and trying to find if there's any non-silverlight options available, all include installing Windows one way or another. I personally would suggest finding something else to watch, like PBS/BBC :-/
[10:04] <metaspike> AdvoWork: get IE and silverlight running in wine (ha?), run a virtual machine with windows in it, just run windows or send a message to whatever site your trying to view and tell them their idiots for using silverlight.
[10:05] <metaspike> prehaps and/or
[10:05] <dogbix> Any idea how to change the default screen dim time while on battery in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[10:06] <quick-> dogbix:  you  can change it in power options
[10:06] <dogbix> quick: really? I've looked.
[10:06] <metaspike> quick-: recovery mode, single user mode or runlevel 1 - is root, i dont think there's a way to change it
[10:07] <dogbix> quick-: only options in power settings are to do with going into standby
[10:07] <metaspike> quick-: you could boot into a non graphical, standard multiuser mode with a bit of trickery im sure
[10:07] <quick-> metaspike:  except that i enable the root account with a passwd . i guess that will work ?
[10:08] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone know how to remove tvmobili? Installed using a deb on their site
[10:08] <quick-> dogbix:  check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1711261
[10:09] <Paddy_NI> does not show up in synaptic, apt-get purge does not remove it
[10:09] <dogbix> quick-: thanks , looks good.
[10:10] <quick-> metaspike:  Would you please elaborate . how to enable the multi user mode .
[10:10] <quick-> dogbix:  tel me if it works :)
[10:10] <metaspike> quick-: learn a bit about runlevels fmi
[10:10] <quick-> metaspike:  fmi ???
[10:11] <metaspike> and grub runlevel implimentations... for more information ;)
[10:11] <xsl> Anyone has issues with d-link network cards ? (r8169 driver) i get kernel interrupts randomly
[10:12] <fidel> quick-: for more information
[10:12] <quick-> metaspike:  fidel  thanks :)
[10:12] <xsl> and it disables the IRQ the card is on
[10:17] <dogbix> quick-: first link didn't work, followed to this link which worked for 11.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1024735&highlight=changing+the+dim+display+idle+time&page=2
[10:17] <varikonniemi> hello, should i be worried that automatic updates have started to install without asking a password, some months ago i first noticed this
[10:17] <varikonniemi> some rootkit, compromised system or wrong settings?
[10:18] <Pharaoh> Guys!! I need help, I think my computer is part of a botnet.
[10:18] <bazhang> Pharaoh, why do you say that
[10:18] <Pharaoh> Whenever I leave my computer unattended and my monitor goes off by itself the harddrive on my computer gets really loud.
[10:19] <Pharaoh> Almost like an anti-virus is scanning it.
[10:19] <Pharaoh> Or something is scanning it.
[10:19] <varikonniemi> are you running windows
[10:19] <Pharaoh> Yes.
[10:19] <varikonniemi> thats the problem
[10:19] <bazhang> Pharaoh, this is ubuntu support
[10:19] <txdv2> this is the #ubuntu channel?
[10:19] <ikonia> Pharaoh: re-install then
[10:20] <varikonniemi> this is an ubuntu channel,,, but i will say probably prefetch, defrag or some other automatic shit
[10:20] <ikonia> Pharaoh: if you are concerned your machine is compromised you need to re-install
[10:20] <bazhang> ##windows Pharaoh
[10:20] <ikonia> varikonniemi: drop the language
[10:20] <txdv2> if you use windows 7 it is prefatch
[10:21] <quick-> \quit "got to go "
[10:21] <Pharaoh> Oh okay, so it's prefatch that's doing it.
[10:21] <txdv2> join ubuntu channel, ask windows question
[10:21] <bazhang> !ot | Pharaoh
[10:21] <ikonia> Pharaoh: are you using ubuntu yes/no
[10:21] <xsl> is there a way on ubuntu to change on the fly the resoltution of tty1 ?
[10:21] <bazhang> ikonia, windows
[10:21] <Pharaoh> bazhang leave me alone
[10:21] <ikonia> Pharaoh: are you using ubuntu yes/no
[10:22] <Pharaoh> you're always harassing me.
[10:22] <Pharaoh> Yes ikonia
[10:22] <ikonia> Pharaoh: stop, answer the question
[10:22] <ikonia> Pharaoh: right, in that case if your machine has been compromised, the only option is to re-install, discussion over
[10:22] <Pharaoh> i loled
[10:26] <Pharaoh> What is ubuntu?
[10:30] <rix1234> Hi all...What script is called when a user logouts from a session? I am using Ubuntu 10.10
[10:35] <linocisco> hi i dont know how to add proxy authentication for terminal. my office network requires authentication
[10:35] <sunlifter> Hey everybody, anybody uses ircII? I wonder how to make windows for different chanels.
[10:35] <metaspike> rix1234: depends? typically xinit
[10:35] <linocisco> for firefox, I can do.
[10:35] <linocisco> but for terminal. I dont know where.
[10:35] <metaspike> rix1234: or gnome-session or such
[10:35] <linocisco> i tried username:password@host
[10:36] <linocisco> but not ok
[10:36] <metaspike> maybe gdm :D  i just kill the session manager to logout :p
[10:36] <dubey> hello
[10:37] <Nepherius> Anyone else having trouble with chrome on ubuntu 11.10 ?Mine keeps crashing
[10:37] <dubey> i want to install xen kernel on Ubuntu 11.10 server edition 64bit
[10:37] <szal> dubey: and?
[10:37] <dubey> what is the pkg name for xen and kernel
[10:38] <szal> dubey: tried searching your favourite package management app for 'xen' yet?
[10:39] <dubey> szal: apt-cache show : xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64 - Xen Hypervisor on AMD64
[10:40] <squall> hi
[10:41] <sunlifter> Hello
[10:42] <linocisco> hi
[10:42] <overclucker> sunlifter: does ircii not have /help ?
[10:42] <linocisco> who could help me issue?
[10:42] <squall> dunno
[10:43] <squall> first time with xchat
[10:43] <squall> and irc
[10:43] <sunlifter> overclucker: It only mentions possibility, not actual path to achieving it.
[10:43] <squall> i try to find some solution to download tvshow or something
[10:43] <szal> dubey: the guys in #ubuntu-virt might be more of a help in your case
[10:43] <linocisco> I dont know where to put proxy setting authentication for terminal
[10:43] <parkdriver> If your server is running for 260 days is it recommended to reboot? (Even without any errors/complaints?)
[10:44] <szal> dubey: see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen - not exactly current, but contains some links to other sources
[10:45] <szal> parkdriver: unless you're on a pissing contest regarding uptime or can't afford the downtime a reboot takes, you should do that every once in a while, yes, at least after kernel updates
[10:46] <metaspike> huh, i just figured out a crazy way to reconfigure everything - whoops.
[10:46] <andyn> Irssi uptime: 272d 13h 5m 9s
[10:46] <andyn> the last time this server was rebooted when the janitor yanked the power cord.
[10:48] <Seryth> I've just switched to xfce on Ubuntu, and installed dropbox. However, when I right click a file in the public folder, the "copy public link" option isn't there? What's happened? :/
[10:48] <onre> andyn,  12:47:40 up 1756 days, 22:11,  0 users,  load average: 0.76, 0.73, 0.79
[10:48] <Seryth> 10:48:37 up 3 days, 15:51,  0 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.40, 0.46
[10:48] <Seryth> lol
[10:48] <andyn> so #ubuntu just actually turned into an uptime pissing contest.
[10:49] <onre> yes.
[10:49] <ikonia> well it shows how stupid some people can be, that they think uptime = good, rather than security maintained
[10:49] <Seryth> uptime: 5803215 days, gawd
[10:50] <ikonia> ok - enough now
[10:50] <jatt> wow 1756, some security holes in that box
[10:50] <Seryth> ikonia: That's just for my personal computer, not a server ( 3 days) and I've just got a local server, so meh.
[10:51] <onre> ikonia, ever heard of cases where you end up with a legacy system in your hands that you just can not reboot, because there's no guarantee that services running on it can ever restart again? :)
[10:51] <ikonia> onre: many times, they are migrated off with haste
[10:52] <onre> ikonia, well, if you have the resources to do that, then good for you. the box in question is very problematic, it still runs one app whose earliest possible migration window is next summer.
[10:53] <dubey> what is linux-image-server ?
[10:53] <ikonia> kernel package
[10:53] <dubey> ikonia: xen ?
[10:53] <ikonia> no
[10:54] <dubey> ikonia: install xen-vertualization > rebooted it and now want to confirm that i am in xen mode
[10:54] <dubey> how can i ?
[10:54] <gunfire> i am new to ubuntu, i want to compile a weechat application using cmake, pls can someone guide me ?
[10:55] <ikonia> dubey: what ?
[10:56] <metaspike> Seryth: it could be a permissions thing?
[10:56] <Seryth> metaspike: I don't think so, I've got access to everything
[10:57] <Seryth> metaspike: I think it's to do with xfce and nautilus
[10:57] <dogbix> dubey: try the command xm
[10:57] <metaspike> one could, sudo chown -hR Seryth:Seryth ./folder ' to make sure, nautilus= dunno i use xfe :)
[10:57] <dubey> dogbix: xm gives me some list of commands
[10:57] <metaspike> acutally no i dont, i use terminal :(
[10:58] <dogbix> dubey: xm list
[10:58] <Seryth> metaspike: I'll try. And I use xfce too, and I think dropbox is nautilus only, which is where thep roblem is?
[10:58] <bullgard4> Ubuntu 10.04.3 Synaptic notices for the DEB program package »ntop« version 1.4.3-4: "Canonical does not provide updates for sntop. Some updates may be provided by the Ubuntu community." Why does Ubuntu 11.10 not notice the same?
[10:58] <dubey> dogbix: giving Domain-0 etc.
[10:58] <dogbix> dubey: sounds like xen is running then
[10:59] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok ?
[10:59] <ikonia> and
[10:59] <dubey> When i do uname -a, output is not showing anything related to xen
[10:59] <ikonia> dubey: -xen postfix was dropped with 3.X kernels
[11:00] <Guest46847> hi ubuntus
[11:00] <bullgard4> ikonia: Your message is too short to be comprehensible.
[11:00] <ikonia> bullgard4: your message had no question to it
[11:01] <Seryth> metaspike: Nope, didn't work. Do you use dropbox?
[11:01] <bullgard4> ikonia: My message has a question mark at its end. Therefore it is a question.
[11:01] <ikonia> a question mark does not make it a question
[11:02] <ikonia> a dog is yellow ?
[11:02] <ikonia> that is not a question
[11:02] <Benkinooby> is there a name for a server/computer that caches updates for a whole network?
[11:02] <dubey> ikonia: thank you, useful info
[11:02] <ikonia> bullgard4: are you actually asking why the wording / description has changed ?
[11:03] <Ben64> Benkinooby: something like this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateServer
[11:03] <bullgard4> ikonia: I am asking why Ubuntu 11.10 Synaptic does not attach the same notice to that package as Ubuntu Synaptic did before.
[11:03] <ikonia> bullgard4: because it's a different version of the package ?
[11:04] <bullgard4> ikonia: No. It is the same version.
[11:04] <klose> hey guys, i'm thinking in give a try on ubuntu 12.04, but i have some doubts: 1) how can i report a bug that eventualy can appear; 2) where can i download the last daily version?
[11:04] <ikonia> bullgard4: you'll have to contact the package maintainer to find out why he has changed the text in the description field, only he can tell you that
[11:04] <Noctifer> hi, i have empathy 3.2.0.1 running but the icq protocol is not available? i.e. i can't even select it when i add an account to empathy
[11:04] <ikonia> bullgard4: it doesn't really matter, it's an ubuntu package, coming from the ubuntu repos, so the validity of the package is still the same
[11:04] <zvacet> Benkinooby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[11:05] <bullgard4> ikonia: 'I see your point. --  Thank you.
[11:05] <LjL> ikonia, bullgard4: isn't that message shown when the package is in Universe rather than in Main?
[11:05] <ikonia> the package has always been in main though hasn't it ?
[11:05] <bullgard4> LjL: Just a second.
[11:05] <ikonia> !info ntop
[11:05] <metaspike> Seryth: worker for xample or -xfe- the fm not -xfe4- the wm. maybe sudo apt-get --reinstall install natilus or dpkg-reconfigure it and rm it's config.
[11:05] <ikonia> !info ntop lucid
[11:06] <LjL> ikonia: the package is in Universe for me
[11:06] <Benkinooby> Ben64, zvacet those two links are pretty much what i am looking for... now i have some keywords and can investigate further... thank you both, you were very helpful
[11:06] <Noctifer> ubuntu is 10.04 lucid lynx
[11:06] <ikonia> ahh, it's always been in universe by the looks of it, so the package description shouldn't have changed
[11:06] <Seryth> metaspike: It's to do with the fact I need the thunar plugin. I think it's sorted, found some stuff via google etc
[11:06] <geekster1> Hi, The only way I can access DistroWatch.com is through hidemyass.com. Any1 else have trouble?
[11:06] <zvacet> Benkinooby:  yw
[11:07] <LjL> !ot | geekster1
[11:07] <Benkinooby> !yw
[11:08] <Nazli> !apt
[11:10] <metaspike> here it is. dpkg-reconfigure debconf (choose low) && dpkg-reconfigure -a  ... show most questions, reconfigure everything. o_o
[11:11] <metaspike> i dont recommend it really..
[11:12] <trumpet> anyone using ubuntu one on window7 , my u1 client on windows doesn't work, it just keep 'starting file sync' :(
[11:12] <LjL> trumpet: try asking in #ubuntuone
[11:12] <llutz> metaspike: just "dpkg-reconfigure -plow -a"
[11:14] <renegade_m> why is that when I boot on live cd of ubuntu 11.10, i always end up to console.. same with zorin..
[11:15] <renegade_m> i can't go to the desktop
[11:17] <metaspike> renegade_m: does it have internet? cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[11:17] <renegade_m> what do you mean?
[11:17] <metaspike> the live cd :)
[11:18] <renegade_m> i booted just a while ago with the live cd.
[11:18] <renegade_m> in this laptop i am using..
[11:18] <renegade_m> excited to see zorin.
[11:18] <renegade_m> but it fails, as ubuntu 11.10 fails me yesterday.
[11:18] <bullgard4> LjL: No, the Section has remained the same. In both cases: "universe/net".
[11:19] <metaspike> well. if your in a console, you can startx - read what it sees, thery'll be your error or where described above :)
[11:19] <renegade_m> i see.. i will try that again.
[11:20] <amfg> Hi, i've got a problem on my lucid x64 with 3.2.0 generic kernel... I've got toshiba L750D. here is my dmesg http://fpaste.org/h2ST/raw/ .. I'm having trouble detect actual battery state
[11:20] <LjL> bullgard4: well i don't know, i don't normally use Synaptic, but my suspicion is it was Synaptic's own information line for Universe packages and it has now been removed
[11:20] <renegade_m> can it be hardware driver error?
[11:20] <renegade_m> i have no problem loading with 8.10 ubuntu.
[11:20] <ikonia> contact the package maintainer to find out why the wording has changed
[11:20] <amfg> I should also say that windows is fine with my bat
[11:21] <Rainpebble> hello?
[11:21] <Rainpebble> anyone on here?
[11:21] <ikonia> Rainpebble: 1400+ people
[11:21] <amfg> :)
[11:21] <Rainpebble> oh wow
[11:21] <Ben64> 1522
[11:21] <Rainpebble> lol
[11:21] <Rainpebble> what is this chat for?
[11:22] <JLuc> Hello
[11:22] <metaspike> renegade_m: definately, or kernel related. or use dmesg and such.
[11:22] <JLuc> im the 1551th
[11:22] <JLuc> and i got a question
[11:22] <Rainpebble> this is really awesome
[11:22] <Ben64> Rainpebble: ubuntu support
[11:22] <Rainpebble> can I go into other rooms?
[11:22] <metaspike> amfg: are you using amd64 release?
[11:22] <LjL> ikonia, the package description has not changed. that message must be something from Synaptic itself.
[11:22] <renegade_m> i will
[11:22] <amfg> metaspike: yes
[11:22] <Rainpebble> ummmm i think so
[11:22] <Rainpebble> how do I Get to another room?
[11:22] <Ben64> Rainpebble: how did you find this? this channel isn't for chatting, its for ubuntu support only
[11:23] <JLuc> Plz Is there a way to switch the /home folder on another partition once install is finish and ubuntu running ???
[11:23] <amfg> Rainpebble: /join #channel
[11:23] <Rainpebble> oh..... ok
[11:23] <Rainpebble> so I come here when I need help with ubuntu?
[11:23] <Rainpebble> this program is not for anything else?
[11:23] <LjL> Rainpebble: that's the idea
[11:23] <Ben64> what "program" ?
[11:23] <LjL> Rainpebble: the *program* is for chatting. this *channel* is for Ubuntu support.
[11:24] <zvacet> Rainpebble:  just ubuntu support nothing else
[11:24] <JLuc> there are lots of other channels you can get through this same programm
[11:24] <Rainpebble> So I do have a question, whenever I am on a flash website that supports webcams, I cannot click accept to accept the data transfer. What is that about?
[11:25] <ikonia> LjL: sorry, got disconnected then, as you suggesting synaptic has appending/not appending that message
[11:25] <LjL> ikonia: well i'm not a Synaptic user so i don't know, but yes that's what i suspect. i know it's not in the actual description, because i checked that on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and it's unchanged
[11:25] <ikonia> interesting
[11:25] <renegade_m> i have run the fedora 16, though quite slow with kde in live cd
[11:26] <ikonia> but also not something I'll loose sleep over
[11:26] <amfg> Hi, i've got a problem on my lucid x64 with 3.2.0 generic kernel... I've got toshiba L750D. here is my dmesg http://fpaste.org/h2ST/raw/ .. I'm having trouble detect actual battery state.. I should also say that windows is fine with my bat
[11:26] <bullgard4> LjL: Thank you very much for your comment.
[11:27] <honey_> is there any  converter to AVI and mpeg which is graphical rather than winff?
[11:28] <LjL> honey_: VLC i guess
[11:28] <Ben64> honey_: avidemux?
[11:28] <renegade_m> guys, thanks, i will try your suggestions!:) be right back later
[11:30] <honey_> Ben64:is that graphical?
[11:30] <LjL> honey_: yes
[11:30] <jony> hi
[11:31] <Ben64> of course, mencoder works great on command line :)
[11:31] <jony> hi
[11:31] <etz> What's the new version of Ubuntu?
[11:32] <jatt> !release
[11:33] <LjL> etz: the current release is 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot)
[11:33] <etz> Thanks
[11:33] <bullgard4> amfg: Why does your dmesg show the line: "[    0.874511] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent)"?
[11:34] <amfg> bullgard4: i wonder as well
[11:34] <bullgard4> amfg: So please enquire.
[11:34] <amfg> how should I?
[11:35] <ranxi> hello, i have a wi-fi connection problem with my ubuntu. i keep disconnecting every ten second. suggestions?
[11:35] <bullgard4> amfg: First see if there is an intermittent contact to your battery.
[11:35] <amfg> it can't be
[11:36] <amfg> I'm running just on battery right now
[11:36] <bullgard4> amfg: Second, visit an Ubuntu users club and ask a knowledgable person to check your hardware.
[11:36] <amfg> nj
[11:37] <bullgard4> amfg: If this dmesg message repeats right now, file a bug report.
[11:37] <amfg> ok, i'll try something when i get home
[11:37] <amfg> i'm afraid that i run out of energy in a few minutes
[11:37] <amfg> so i'll be here in about 2 hours
[11:39] <bullgard4> amfg: IDoes your computer have two battery slots?
[11:39] <bullgard4> -I
[11:42] <m1lt0n> morning. Hello. I have a question: I downloaded the kubuntu 11.10 cd image (I've replicated the issue with other distros, too, so there is nothing wrong with the created cd) and despite the fact that on boot, it seems that the CD is starting to load (no message on the screen, though), fedora (I have fedora 16 with gnome 3 and Windows 7 dual boot) loads (without showing the grub menu in order to ch
[11:43] <m1lt0n> ello. I have a question: I downloaded the kubuntu 11.10 cd image (I've replicated the issue with other distros, too, so there is nothing wrong with the created cd) and despite the facwithout showing the grub menu in order to choose)
[11:43] <m1lt0n> any idea?
[11:43] <level09> how to troubleshoot a cronjob?
[11:43] <iceroot> level09: like?
[11:44] <level09> I am executing  a script
[11:44] <iceroot> level09: to see if it runs? to debug the script inside?
[11:44] <level09> and it is supposed to log stuff
[11:44] <level09> no to see if it runs
[11:44] <level09> I added the script to 1 min cron
[11:44] <iceroot> level09: less /var/log/syslog
[11:44] <level09> aha thanks
[11:44] <iceroot> level09: cron logs every start of a task there
[11:45] <level09> yeah I can see that , cool thanks
[11:46] <level09> now it is clear : Error: bad username; while reading /etc/crontab
[11:48] <earlybirdd> i have ubuntu running as a live CD what is the best way for me to run ubuntu as  VM from windows 7
[11:48] <earlybirdd> should I keep the VM running from a live cd or can i download ubuntu to the system from LiveCd?
[11:49] <fidel> earlybirdd: you should be able to install ubuntu right from the live cd
[11:50] <fidel> so basically - tell your vm-environment to boot from the ubuntu.iso you have and then just start the install
[11:50] <level09> why is cron unable to find a command while I can execute it when logged as the user ?
[11:51] <lvinay> earlybirdd: the live cd has a tool to make space in your HD for ubuntu
[11:51] <fidel> level09: working with full path?
[11:51] <iceroot> level09: PATH is the answer
[11:51] <level09> aha
[11:51] <level09> I should specify the full path
[11:51] <iceroot> level09: if you type "ping" the system is looking in thr PATH Variable where that command is
[11:51] <iceroot> level09: normally ubuntu should set PATH by default when using crontab -e
[11:52] <iceroot> level09: but its always a good idea to use full path to commands in cronjobs/scripts
[11:52] <level09> iceroot: great, but how do I find the full path to my command ?
[11:52] <level09> whereis ?
[11:52] <iceroot> level09: "which command"
[11:52] <Ulti> is there a way to prevent thumbnail previews in Nautilus based on MIME type? SVG rendering is killing my machine...
[11:52] <level09> great thanks
[11:55] <Thegoodgiant> relax
[11:57] <m3asmi> where is the file tomcat webapps folder in ubuntu ?
[11:58] <LjL> m3asmi: not sure what you're talking about i'm afraid, but in general, you can see where files/folders from a package are by doing "dpkg -L packagename"
[11:58] <LjL> m3asmi: so something like "dpkg -L tomcat7", just maybe it's not that specific package
[11:58] <level09> when writing shell scripts, is it okay if I use commands like cd /path/to/dir/  ? or is there a better way for doing it ?
[11:59] <LjL> level09: i don't see anything wrong with "cd", but i'm hardly an expert in shell scripting. have you tried asking in #bash?
[11:59] <m3asmi> LjL: thakns a lot ;)
[12:00] <level09> LjL: never knew about that , will take a look
[12:04] <z3r0c007> how to remove old kernels
[12:04] <LjL> z3r0c007: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-whatever (be careful not to remove them all!)
[12:05] <LjL> z3r0c007: at least, that will stop them from showing up in the boot menu, then there are other packages (headers, modules) you might want to remove. i think they ought to be removed automatically when you do "sudo apt-get autoremove", though.
[12:05] <z3r0c007> ok thanks LjL
[12:05] <bazhang> z3r0c007, why would you want to? they are not very big in size
[12:06] <z3r0c007> i have a 4 image kernel in my laptop
[12:06] <LjL> bazhang: eh, -image might not be, but the rest of the packages kind of are
[12:07] <bazhang> z3r0c007, always good to have an extra kernel around, ie dont remove them all
[12:07] <z3r0c007> i have 2.x.x.x, 3.0.x.12, 3.x.x.13, 3.x.x.14 and the latest 3.x.x.15
[12:07] <z3r0c007> i have 4 kernels
[12:08] <z3r0c007>  and the latest 3.x.x.15
[12:10] <makara> anyone set up an Airport Express on Linux before?
[12:13] <iceroot> !anyone | makara
[12:16] <Lantizia> hey i've mounted an nfsv4 share and everything shows up as owned by 4294967294:4294967294 when on the nfs server they are nobody:nogroup like they're supposed to be - any ideas?
[12:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> makara http://www.1ph0ne.com/2009/10/16/how-to-setup-ubuntu-to-works-with-airport-express/
[12:18] <makara> iceroot: ?
[12:18] <Treets> Hello. How to remove a program with all its now unneeded dependencies with apt-get?
[12:19] <LjL> Treets: sudo apt-get autoremove packagename
[12:20] <Treets> Thank you :-)
[12:22] <Datalova> Hey guys, join us on channel #TahrirOps we're going to be in touch with the 25 January 2012 demonstrations
[12:24] <richthegeek> hi, I got a new mobo today that uses UEFI - will GRUB work with this automatically (from a fresh install) or do I have to do something more?
[12:24] <KrisDouglas> richthegeek,  I have not had any problems with my UEFI board
[12:25] <Datalova> Hey guys, join us on channel #TahrirOps we're going to be in touch with the 25 January 2012 demonstrations
[12:26] <richthegeek> KrisDouglas: thanks - i'll give it a shot in a few hours (in work atm) but hopefully it'll work like a charm (unlike my gfx card)
[12:26] <KrisDouglas> !ops
[12:26] <KrisDouglas> richthegeek, what graphics card do you have?
[12:27] <richthegeek> AMD 6850
[12:27] <richthegeek> feels wrong saying AMD instead of ATI ...
[12:27] <KrisDouglas> haha
[12:27] <richthegeek> it was working on a prior install but it just doesn't have 3d accel anymore
[12:27] <KrisDouglas> I haven't had a problem with that card if you use the binary drivers from the ATI website
[12:28] <KrisDouglas> should in fact automatically install ones that will give you 3D from the 11.10 driver manager
[12:28] <richthegeek> KrisDouglas: any terminal magic I need to do? something like "aticonfig --initial" for example?
[12:30] <KrisDouglas> assuming you are on 32bit (there is a x64 one too): http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[12:30] <KrisDouglas> will do it all for you
[12:30] <richthegeek> KrisDouglas: thanks :)
[12:30] <KrisDouglas> download it to your home directory
[12:30] <KrisDouglas> reboot into recovery mode, open a terminal window
[12:30] <KrisDouglas> sudo chmod +x <driverfilename>
[12:30] <blackarchan> can i replace Unity with gnome2???? i mean replace it not install gnome3 and run it in -fallback
[12:30] <KrisDouglas> then ./<driverfilename>
[12:31] <richthegeek> awesome
[12:31] <KrisDouglas> richthegeek, on a fresh install that works every time for my 6950
[12:32] <richthegeek> nice - i'll take a look when i get home and have built my computer (new mobo and ram)
[12:32] <KrisDouglas> :)
[12:33] <iceroot> blackarchan: no
[12:33] <KrisDouglas> blackarchan, I don't actually think it's possible without breaking your system. The best recommendation I have is to try XFCE
[12:33] <iceroot> blackarchan: and its not a good idea to install gnome2 because gnome2 is no longer supported (by the gnome-project) and dont get sec-updates
[12:34] <blackarchan> bad luck... i really loved gnome2
[12:34] <KrisDouglas> blackarchan, have a look at cinnamon by the linuxmint team
[12:34] <KrisDouglas> http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
[12:34] <blackarchan> on XFCE can i run everything that i run on gnome2(ubuntu 10.04) and unity?
[12:34] <iceroot> blackarchan: yes
[12:35] <blackarchan> i heard about cinnamon but i gues it will be a wile till they will release a stable version
[12:35] <aguitel> how downgrade xorg ?
[12:35] <iceroot> aguitel: why?
[12:36] <aguitel> iceroot, conflict with nvidia-173
[12:36] <iceroot> aguitel: on 11.10?
[12:36] <aguitel> iceroot, no
[12:36] <iceroot> aguitel: sounds like the 12.04 bug
[12:37] <iceroot> aguitel: why are you asking here and in #ubuntu+1 if you know this channel does not support 12.04?
[12:37] <aguitel> iceroot, nobody here
[12:37] <iceroot> aguitel: doesnt matter
[12:37] <aguitel> iceroot, nobody there
[12:38] <iceroot> aguitel: this channel is not for 12.04 also its a bad idea to use alpha-software if you dont know how to fix issues by your own
[12:40] <iceroot> aguitel: but to answer your question, a downgrade is normally not possible
[12:40] <aguitel> iceroot, ok
[12:42] <iceroot> is there an easy way to read a changelog with apt-get for a different ubuntu-version?
[12:42] <amine> se ubuntu ce de la mlerde
[12:42] <monny> where i can get some help with execel
[12:42] <aguitel> iceroot, what is xorg version in 11.10 ?
[12:42] <iceroot> monny: ##windows ##office or other strange channels
[12:42] <monny> where i can get some help with excel ?
[12:43] <iceroot> !info xorg
[12:43] <monny> !info
[12:43] <ikonia> !fr | angryferret
[12:43] <monny> how i can repair problem with system driver
[12:44] <ikonia> monny: explain the problem
[12:44] <iceroot> monny: you are using ubuntu?
[12:44] <monny> i had some problems with routinh
[12:44] <monny> i had some problems with routing
[12:44] <LjL> !language | amine
[12:45] <Culiforge> 10.04 trying to loop mount iso on usb drive.. using "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/New Volume /dev/sdx" I get 'More than one install devices?' and the grub syntax screen. Could someone help me with my command line?
[12:46] <overclucker> Culiforge: escape that space in root path with \
[12:47] <iceroot> Culiforge: New\ Volume
[12:47] <iceroot> Culiforge: its always a good idea not to use whitespaces in file/path-names
[12:47] <Culiforge> so \ <space>?
[12:48] <LjL> Culiforge: yes, or put the whole thing between quotation marks
[12:49] <DamienCassou> hi
[12:49] <sherif> hi
[12:50] <DamienCassou> I have many little bugs with respect to the desktop environment on Ubuntu 11.10. Am I the only one?
[12:50] <sherif> anyone use cairo dock?
[12:50] <Culiforge> hmm, neither route is successful. but the message changes to 'Volume/boot/grub' is not a directory...
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| sherif DamienCassou
[12:50] <iceroot> Culiforge: please post the exact command you used
[12:51] <sherif> huh
[12:51] <Culiforge> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/New\ Volume /dev/sdx
[12:51] <sherif> does anyone use cairo dock?
[12:51] <Culiforge> sudo grub-install --root-directory="/media/New Volume" /dev/sdx
[12:51] <LjL> sherif: err, the "does" was not the problem with your question
[12:51] <bazhang> sherif, whats the real question, of course some people do
[12:51] <LjL> sherif: the problem is that you should ask about your issue with cairo dock, not ask if anyone uses it
[12:51] <sherif> ok sorry im just new to ubuntu
[12:52] <AdvoWork> anyone know a way around DRM/silverlight for ubuntu? Moonlight works, but it wont play stuff that needs DRM, ie love film
[12:52] <sherif> well guys i want to know how to make it start when ubuntu starts
[12:52] <overclucker> AdvoWork: nope
[12:52] <LjL> AdvoWork: i doubt there is a way.
[12:52] <DamienCassou> for example, when I click on an icon in the top bar, I often get a contextual menu that is the one of the next icon, not the one I clicked.
[12:52] <sherif> i mean everytime i start ubuntu need to open cairo dock application
[12:52] <Culiforge> iceroot: should /sdx be sdc?
[12:53] <sherif> anyone got me?
[12:53] <DamienCassou> sherif: yes, there is a way. Open the 'startup applications' application
[12:53] <soulnafein> Ufo13 hello ;-)
[12:53] <sherif> then?
[12:53] <LjL> Culiforge: well, it should certainly not be sdx, it should be something that makes sense for your system :P
[12:53] <bazhang> sherif, put in startup applications
[12:53] <iceroot> Culiforge: sure
[12:53] <DamienCassou> sherif: then you can add your application there
[12:53] <iceroot> Culiforge: it should be the drive you want
[12:53] <DamienCassou> sherif: just press 'add'
[12:53] <iceroot> Culiforge: sudo fdisk -l  will tell you the name
[12:54] <sherif> ok
[12:54] <nullucas> hi, it there a tool that can be used for backups that checks if the files have been copied correctly AND also checks periodically whether such files are still accessible and corruption free?
[12:54] <sherif> after add?
[12:54] <sherif> browse?
[12:54] <DamienCassou> sherif: you type the name of the command you use to launch
[12:54] <DamienCassou> sherif: or you can just browse
[12:54] <Ufo13> hi guys I have a problem, after installing ubuntu 11.10 I am missing grub.. could it be related to some AHCI settings? My boot order is AHCI DVD -> AHCI HDD then I have an IDE HDD too where I have installed Ubuntu... But I do believe I have installed GRUB on the AHCI HDD
[12:54] <DamienCassou> sherif: how do you launch it usually?
[12:55] <Ufo13> it just straight boots to Windows XP
[12:55] <sherif> how wud i know the name of the command
[12:55] <sherif> i think i will just browse
[12:55] <Ufo13> soulnafein: hi
[12:55] <soulnafein> Please help Ufo13... he's so unlucky with computers :D
[12:55] <sherif> from start
[12:55] <sherif> search for it
[12:55] <DamienCassou> sherif: how do you launch it usually?
[12:55] <aguitel> iceroot, is there some issue about nvidia-173 in 11.10 ?
[12:55] <sherif> will it be in C drive?
[12:56] <DamienCassou> sherif: look in /usr/bin/cairo<something>
[12:56] <sherif> ok
[12:56] <DamienCassou> sherif: there is no notion of C drive on ubuntu
[12:56] <sherif> let me check
[12:56] <soulnafein> Ufo: in the meanwhile check this answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/24479/no-grub-after-installing-ubuntu-10-10-beside-windows-7-straight-to-windows
[12:56] <sherif> how can i use ur name when reply
[12:56] <iceroot> aguitel: i dont know, i am not using nvidia cards
[12:56] <LjL> !tab | sherif
[12:56] <honey_>  Unable to read the contents of this file system! Because of this some operations may be unavailable. The cuase might be a missing software package. The following list of software packages is required for fat32 file system support: dosfstools, mtools. what is the solution
[12:56] <aguitel> iceroot, ok
[12:56] <Culiforge> iceroot: ok, great. but still getting problems with the  'Volume/boot/grub' is not a directory... i'm sure i'm not using the quotes correctly
[12:57] <DamienCassou> ubottu: you are great. What is your parser?
[12:57] <sherif> huh
[12:57] <Santanna> ciao
[12:57] <DamienCassou> sherif: ?
[12:57] <sherif> yes
[12:57] <Santanna> !list
[12:57] <sherif> wut is the function of tab
[12:57] <llutz> Culiforge: ls -ld /media/New\ Volume/boot
[12:57] <soulnafein> Ufo13: try also this http://askubuntu.com/questions/24479/no-grub-after-installing-ubuntu-10-10-beside-windows-7-straight-to-windows
[12:58] <sherif> u there
[12:58] <sherif> damien
[12:58] <soulnafein> ooops
[12:58] <DamienCassou> sherif: I don't understand what you ask
[12:58] <soulnafein> Ufo13: I meant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:58] <DamienCassou> sherif: when you want to talk to me privately, I guess you can just double-click my name on your IRC application
[12:58] <honey_>  Unable to read the contents of this file system! Because of this some operations may be unavailable. The cuase might be a missing software package. The following list of software packages is required for fat32 file system support: dosfstools, mtools. what is the solution
[12:58] <LjL> DamienCassou: ubottu is a supybot with some custom plugins, see /msg ubottu !botclone
[12:58] <DamienCassou> sherif: or you can prefix your messages with "damien:"
[12:59] <Culiforge> llutz: drwx------ 3 gary gary 4096 2012-01-25 07:48 /media/New Volume/boot
[12:59] <sherif> hi
[12:59] <DamienCassou> LjL: thanks
[12:59] <llutz> Culiforge: ls -ld /media/New\ Volume/boot/grub
[13:00] <Culiforge> llutz: drwx------ 2 gary gary 4096 2012-01-25 07:48 /media/New Volume/boot/grub
[13:00] <nlko> will i notice a big different when moving from 32bit, 4gb ram and normal disk, to 64bit ubuntu, 8gb ram and a SSD
[13:00] <llutz> Culiforge: strange owner/group + permission on it
[13:01] <llutz> nlko: you will, but only because the ssd speeds things up
[13:01] <nlko> cool, yeah, the SSd is the biggest change
[13:02] <llutz> nlko: 32/4gb vs 64/8gb is not that much different.
[13:02] <honey_>  i have an external hard disck and when i was trying to format in gparted it brings looks like this with an  exclamtion marc Unable to read the contents of this file system! Because of this some operations may be unavailable. The cuase might be a missing software package. The following list of software packages is required for fat32 file system support: dosfstools, mtools. what is the solution
[13:03] <nlko> llutz: just a few more VM's loaded maybe
[13:03] <Culiforge> llutz: would changing /media/New Voume to dev/sdc1 be more in line or is that a bad idea?
[13:03] <nlko> looking forward to the SSD, it should be here any minute
[13:03] <llutz> honey_: 1. why didn't you say what your issue is before? 2. sudo apt-get install dosfstools
[13:03] <m|kael> hello, im trying to set two ips on my home server, one static and one dhcp, but it doesnt seem to work, this is the config http://pastebin.com/RZEffVuq please help
[13:03] <amine> ubuntu merde vive windows
[13:03] <llutz> Culiforge: /dev/sdc1 is  your /-fs?
[13:04] <Culiforge> llutz: sdc1 is the usb I'm trying to boot iso from
[13:05] <Culiforge> llutz: which seems would make the /dev/sdc1 at the end of the line redundant...?
[13:06] <DamienCassou> When I click on an icon in the top bar, I often get a contextual menu that is the one of the next icon, not the one I clicked. Is it a known bug?
[13:06] <honey_> llutz: sorry for but it is alradey installaed dosfstools
[13:07] <fidel> DamienCassou: topbar of what?
[13:08] <Culiforge> llutz: iceroot: thx for the help.. time for work gotta go
[13:08] <DamienCassou> fidel: I meant the top bar of the desktop environment. The bar with the date/time, my name... I'm on Ubuntu 11.10
[13:09] <fidel> DamienCassou: that is still not 100% clear ;)
[13:10] <fidel> or in other words: are you running unity, unity23, gnome-shell etc etc
[13:10] <DamienCassou> fidel: I'm on Ubuntu 11.10, standard installation with Unity.
[13:10] <m|kael> hello, im trying to set two ips on my home server, one static and one dhcp, but it doesnt seem to work, this is the config http://pastebin.com/RZEffVuq please help
[13:12] <DamienCassou> m|kael: what did you expect from your configuration? Why do you say it doesn't work?
[13:14] <[u]ser> how can i make samba share the home folder of a user when the user is logged in?
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> m|kael  there is no gateway, like Gateway = 192.168.0.1
[13:16] <DamienCassou> [u]ser: and remove the share when the user logs out ?
[13:17] <heisenmink> I'm configuring ubuntu on my laptop
[13:17] <heisenmink> I have a broadcom wireless card
[13:17] <heisenmink> the prop. driver for it sucks, but do I have to have it to get full speed?
[13:17] <[u]ser> DamienCassou, exactly
[13:18] <heisenmink> or can I use the shipped OSS driver without any drawbacks?
[13:18] <lordjj> What book/website would be the definitive guide to Linux?
[13:19] <Noor_egy> hello i installed ubuntu 11.10 but cant install quanta is there is any way to do ???
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> !info quanta
[13:19] <DamienCassou> [u]ser: sorry, I don't know. To create the share, you can write a script and put it in the startup applications list. But I don't know the equivalent for log out applications
[13:19] <ikonia> lordjj: there is no such thing, however https://help.ubuntu.com is a good introduction to Ubuntu
[13:20] <bazhang> !rute > lordjj
[13:20] <Noor_egy> i installed trinty desktop so may be it help but it didnt
[13:20] <bazhang> Noor_egy, trinity? is that kde3?
[13:20] <Noor_egy> yes
[13:20] <Noor_egy> its
[13:20] <LjL> bazhang: yes, Quanta is KDE3-only
[13:20] <bazhang> LjL, ok
[13:21] <Noor_egy> trenty kde 3 but quanta not found there
[13:21] <lordjj> What book/website would be the definitive guide to Linux?
[13:21] <m|kael> MonkeyDust: thanks, i will try that
[13:21] <ikonia> lordjj: I've just told you
[13:22] <ikonia> lordjj: if you are not going to listen, please don't bother re-asking
[13:22] <DJones> !manual | lordjj
[13:22] <lordjj> ikonia sorry i got disconnected. Can u repeat it?
[13:22] <ikonia> lordjj: there is no such thing, however https://help.ubuntu.com is a good introduction to Ubuntu
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> lordjj  the five on top, in capitals http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/howto.html
[13:23] <DamienCassou> is there a way to get a newer version of ubuntu
[13:24] <ikonia> DamienCassou: sure, download the latest version from ubuntu.com
[13:24] <ikonia> !upgrade > DamienCassou
[13:24] <LjL> DamienCassou: newer than what?
[13:24] <DamienCassou> LjL: newer than Ubuntu 11.10 with all updates installed
[13:25] <DamienCassou> LjL: sorry, stupid me. I meant a newer version of Unity :-)
[13:25] <LjL> DamienCassou: 12.04 will be the next version, but it's not yet released. you can run it anyway, but you do that at your own risk as it's unsupported and could break.
[13:25] <DamienCassou> ikonia: s/ubuntu/unity/
[13:25] <LjL> DamienCassou: ok, there might be a PPA for that, let me look
[13:25] <DamienCassou> LjL: I haven't found any, but please tell me if you find one
[13:25] <heisenmink> Do I need the broadcom propretiary driver to get the full speed out of my card or should the build in driver shipped with ubuntu suffice?
[13:26] <LjL> DamienCassou: there is https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/ppa
[13:26] <LjL> DamienCassou: (remember PPAs are unsupported too, however)
[13:27] <DamienCassou> LjL: thank you very much. This version might help me with all my tiny bugs
[13:28] <krised> Anyone worked with remastersys ? It seems that when i do an install of Ubuntu. Costumize it then remastersys it into an iso and attempt to run it it. It will stop at "Checking battery" (well most likely whatever is right after that) even though its a workstation. Im told its graphic related but how can it be ? When i do a install from a clean ubuntu it works just fine.
[13:29] <DarsVaeda> hi, can I force to get the app menu in unity somehow?
[13:29] <ye> code::blocks?
[13:29] <bazhang> krised, contact the remastersys people yet?
[13:30] <krised> bazhang no.  I thought it would be an Ubuntu issue since its that which fails after install.
[13:30] <algo2> How can I get the left taskbar to the bottom?
[13:30] <bazhang> krised, remastersys is a3rd party app not produced by  ubuntu , better contact them
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> algo2  you need a PPA for it
[13:31] <algo2> What is a PPA? On windows I can just drag and drop.  Simple
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> algo2  http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[13:31] <bazhang> krised, I dont think it even maintained anymore, so good luck with contacting them
[13:31] <fidel> algo2: linux isnt windows ;)
[13:31] <algo2> So a 3rd party program? That isn't like Gnome or KDE at all.  Idiots
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> algo2  please don't start
[13:32] <krised> bazhang dang. Do you know of any other alternatives to it ? i need to turn an installed ubuntu with updates and scrapping unity back into a working iso i can liveboot and install.
[13:32] <fidel> algo2: ppa means personal package archive
[13:32] <LjL> algo2: please control the language and avoid insults if you want to use this channel
[13:32] <fidel> or in short- yet another source to install specific packages from
[13:32] <bazhang> krised, you want to have a custom install iso? like a clone of your current one?
[13:33] <algo2> Ubuntu is shit.  Why did I download this crap shit that didn't even have the Synaptic manager? Now I have to rage when I go to close a program b/c the fucking taskbar opens?  FUCK UBUNTU.  This isn't LInux it's shit.  Ubuntu is shit.  FUck this. You all are are drones
[13:33] <fidel> in most cases maintained by some activst willing to take care about that specific package
[13:33] <Paddy_NI> Hey does anyone here know how to prevent users deleting the browser history on chrome/ubuntu?
[13:33] <LjL> algo2: thank you for banning yourself and sparing me the trouble
[13:33] <Paddy_NI> #chromium seems dead quiet
[13:33] <fidel> lol
[13:34] <krised> bazhang well the thing is: im making a costum version of latest ubuntu which lets domainusers log in. Then i have it add a few things to gtk-bookmarks and stuff like wallpaper and such. After that is configured i need that stuffed back into an iso so every install of that iso will yield my changes
[13:34] <Paddy_NI> LjL, Still hanging in there I see :-)
[13:34] <krised> For some reason i made that work once.. so i only have one iso which works. If i install using that iso then remaster that back into an iso it wont work.. it stops at checking battery..
[13:34] <algo2> I didn't get  banned by name, so you're stupid.  Just like Ubuntu
[13:35] <krised> Im told that the next thing after checking battery is graphics card
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> alta189  wrong channel
[13:35] <Paddy_NI> I feel sad now
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> oops
[13:36] <earlybirdd> Paddy_NI:  WHy not log it eleswhere...so they 'think' theyve deleted it and all the addresses are stored in a different directory
[13:36] <Paddy_NI> hmm...
[13:37] <Paddy_NI> earlybirdd, Sounds sneaky and cunning
[13:37] <nikos__> ftp:No address associated with hostname ??? do you know why i get this wen i try to connect in ftp server ?
[13:37] <samthebest> How do create my own server on this IRC chat thingy??
[13:38] <DamienCassou> LjL: the PPA you sent me is for Precise only. Shall I try to force its use on oneiric?
[13:38] <bazhang> samthebest, channel?
[13:38] <LjL> DamienCassou: oh sorry i forgot to check for that
[13:38] <LjL> DamienCassou: probably not a good idea to try forcing it
[13:39] <fidel> samthebest: sure you want host an irc-server or just open a new channel in an existing network?
[13:39] <LjL> DamienCassou: but no, it actually has an oneiric version, at least according to http://ppa.launchpad.net/unity-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/
[13:39] <howdoi> How do I join this channel when you're all mean and also too stupid to ban nick's and multiple world-wide VPN's? Also Tor.  Banning someone w/o addressing an issue is MEAN and cowardice.
[13:39] <LjL> DamienCassou: so just add it with "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:unity-team/ppa" and you should get the oneiric version
[13:40] <DamienCassou> LjL: it looks empty for oneiric. I added the ppa but no update were proposed
[13:40] <warrensheets> can any one tell me how to pake a privit sever with my computer
[13:40] <samthebest> how do I create my own channel on Xchat-gnome IRC???
[13:40] <bazhang> samrat_, /join ##channelname
[13:41] <bazhang> samrat_, help in #freenode
[13:41] <pmicky> #freenode
[13:41] <fidel> samrat_: or just read the docs at the freenode page
[13:41] <bazhang> whoops sorry samrat_
[13:41] <bazhang> he quit
[13:41] <fidel> i expected that to be his second session bazhang ;)
[13:42] <bazhang> fidel, could be
[13:42] <fidel> most likely not ;)
[13:42] <DamienCassou> LjL: do you confirm it's empty? do you have any other solution?
[13:43] <LjL> DamienCassou: it does seem empty, and i don't see any other PPA :(
[13:43] <pmicky> ciaoo
[13:43] <DamienCassou> LjL: ok, thank you. I think I will leave with my annoying bugs and hope for a better future :-)
[13:44] <pmicky> #ubuntu
[13:44] <pmicky> ?
[13:44] <LjL> pmicky: what are you trying to do?
[13:44] <fidel> DamienCassou: how about just using gnome-shell for some weeks and then test unity again - maybe thats enough to have your bugs fixed alrteady
[13:44] <pmicky> Ljl. test
[13:44] <fidel> DamienCassou: consider reporting the bugs if you can reproduce them
[13:44] <LjL> !test | pmicky
[13:46] <gumus> hi all
[13:46] <DamienCassou> fidel: I'm a bit tired of reporting bugs. I spent many hours reporting bugs (including major ones but not only) but I rarely get any answer. But you are right, I will try again
[13:46] <gumus> what was the command for editing subtitles ?
[13:46] <gumus> I can't see french characters
[13:46] <fidel> DamienCassou: well dont expect something to be fixed if you dont even do the first step - reporting it
[13:47] <fidel> but yeah - is can be frustrating - but on the other hand -> it is the way to go ;)
[13:47] <gumus> I remember I used to write a command which makes a new file with utf-8
[13:47] <propokr> Hello, Good morning.
[13:48] <DamienCassou> fidel: I know I know :-). I will fill another one. But I often feel alone
[13:48] <_cb> is there a better way to mount a read only cd than sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom? (This command mounts the cd but takes it a long time. Think it is trying to write to it because there are io errors
[13:49] <ikonia> it's not trying to write
[13:49] <LjL> _cb: there's probably *read* errors
[13:49] <pmicky> #ubunt-it
[13:49] <pmicky> #ubuntu-it
[13:49] <pmicky> join #ubuntu-it
[13:49] <LjL> pmicky: /join #ubuntu-it
[13:49] <FloodBot1> pmicky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <gumus> I can't see french letters in subtitle can anyone help me ?
[13:50]  * richthegeek is an idiot and didn't notice that AM2+ != AM3+
[13:50] <_cb> LjL but same cd on Ubuntu desktop is fine. no problems. It is just on server, where I use the CLI, that it shows errors on the server screen.
[13:50] <LjL> _cb: maybe the CD drive on your server is less good than the one on your desktop...
[13:51] <_cb> LjL, good point.
[13:54] <gumus> can anyone help me with that. vlc can't recognise some letters.
[13:54] <gumus> I mean the subttle
[13:54] <gumus> subtitle
[13:56] <DamienCassou> gumus: can you open a terminal and type 'file <name of your file>' ?
[13:56] <krised> Hmm It appears that i cant get remastersys rep installed in synaptic..  anyone else getting this ?
[13:56] <gumus> okay
[13:57] <Pici>  /j ##unavailable
[13:57] <LjL> Pici: duh
[13:57] <insanekiller1> anyone? i need some help
[13:57] <iceroot> krised: what is the exact error?
[13:57] <Pici> LjL: thanks :P
[13:57] <gumus> okay it's ISO-5589
[13:57] <iceroot> !details | insanekiller1
[13:57] <gumus> ops
[13:57] <gumus> ISO 8859
[13:58] <gumus> DamienCassou: it's ıso8859
[13:59] <geirha> gumus: install recode and use it to convert it to utf-8.  recode latin1..utf8 thefile
[13:59] <krised> iceroot after i add the deb line (using 11.10 it should be oneiric version right ? Synaptic says: Cannot get http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/InRelease unable to find expected entry 'main/source/Sources' in release file (wrong source.list entry or malformed file
[13:59] <krised> What does that meain ?
[13:59] <koss> hello everybody, I need some help after I updated today
[13:59] <iceroot> krised: and what is telling you to add that line?
[14:00] <gumus> geirha: I did.let's see if it worked
[14:00] <fidel> koss: give us some more details about the issue/problem
[14:00] <DamienCassou> gumus: follow geirha advice, that's the best solution. Another one is to configure vlc to read iso-5589 by default
[14:00] <krised> iceroot: http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=1923.0 here it tells me "the firefox way".
[14:00] <gumus> DamienCassou: it worked. Thanks !
[14:00] <gumus> geirha: Thanks !
[14:01] <iceroot> krised: output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:01] <iceroot> !paste | krised
[14:01] <koss> lubuntu 11.10 amd64 system, updated today and installet gtk and qt parts ... i can see detail in log, now I see video playback slowed in vlc and issues in game eve-online ander wine 1.3
[14:02] <fidel> koss: that sounds like a gfx-driver issue - what driver&card are you using right now?
[14:02] <koss> radeon 5870
[14:03] <krised> iceroot pastebin.com/C3aCJij
[14:03] <koss> and catalist 11.8 glfx proprietary
[14:03] <krised> iceroot sry just a sec
[14:03] <iceroot> krised: unkown pasteid
[14:03] <krised> http://pastebin.com/C36aCJij
[14:03] <krised> There we go
[14:04] <iceroot> krised: http://www.remastersys.com/ubuntu/  404
[14:04] <iceroot> krised: so the repo is not available
[14:05] <iceroot> !remaster | krised
[14:05] <krised> thanks iceroot
[14:06] <iceroot> krised: also in the repos there is "oem-config-remaster" maybe that is what you are looking for
[14:06] <koss> fidel - tell me please - what should i try to resolve my video issues after update ?
[14:06] <insanekiller1> i'm trying to install the xf86-input-wacom-0.13.0 via the shell, but when i hit ./configure i get at the end that it needs xextproto to be >=  7.1.99 and that the version i have 7.1.2, but i installed x11proto-xext-dev 7.2.0-3 from the ubuntu software center... i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[14:06] <krised> iceroot thanks ill give it a try
[14:07] <iceroot> insanekiller1: why not using xserver-xorg-input-wacom?
[14:07] <shane__> Hi guys, I am trying to use chmod to grant 777 permissions to a file, for a specific user only. I have googled around and looked at chmod's help files to no luck.
[14:07] <iceroot> insanekiller1: its the wacom driver
[14:07] <iceroot> shane__: dont use 777
[14:07] <shane__> iceroot: Why not?
[14:07] <slava_dp> can someone please do an ``ls /boot/grub/'' for me?
[14:07] <iceroot> shane__: but the syntax is "chmod 644 filename"
[14:08] <iceroot> shane__: 777 means read/write access to everyone
[14:08] <insanekiller1> iceroot: actually i have it installed, but my wacom bamboo fun needs more drivers to run fine...
[14:08] <iceroot> !permissions | shane__
[14:08] <shane__> iceroot: Ok, thanks. So how can I allow read/write/execute permissions for a specific user?
[14:08] <insanekiller1> i went to the wacom's page and it says i need that driver to run my wacom with full features
[14:08] <iceroot> shane__: have a look at the link ubottu gave you
[14:09] <shane__> by the way, this is what I have done: http://pastebin.com/PkPbgW8U
[14:09] <shane__> ubottu: Thanks, I will let you know how that goes
[14:09] <iceroot> shane__: you want to set 777 on /var/www?
[14:10] <shane__> iceroot: Yes, so I can read, write and execute files.
[14:10] <shane__> execute cgi files
[14:10] <iceroot> shane__: never ever!!! in your whole live do that, beat the person which told you to do that
[14:10] <shane__> Ok, one second.
[14:10] <shane__> Ok I beat him. Now what? :P
[14:10] <iceroot> shane__: beat him again
[14:11] <iceroot> shane__: then read the link from ubottu
[14:11] <iceroot> shane__: and then beat him again
[14:11] <shane__> Am reading now.
[14:12] <shane__> iceroot: So I can not apply permissions to any specific user, correct?
[14:12] <iceroot> shane__: sure
[14:12] <iceroot> shane__: but 777 sets the rights to everyone
[14:13] <shane__> Ok thanks
[14:13] <iceroot> shane__: read the link from ubottu that will tell you how to set rights for the owner, the group and all others
[14:13] <propokr> Hello, Good morning.
[14:13] <deitarion> How do I check which packages depend on certain packages that an `apt-get dist-upgrade` would remove? (I'm getting tired of being offered a partial upgrade in the update manager)
[14:13] <LjL> shane__: well if really needed you can set per-user permissions with setfactl
[14:13] <shane__> iceroot: I understand now that the first number is the owner, the second number is group and the third is other.
[14:13] <LjL> shane__: setfacl*
[14:13] <_B00> Can you paste that link again please? I would like to know client specific rights please!?
[14:13] <iceroot> shane__: correct
[14:13] <ikonia> !ssd
[14:14] <krised> iceroot when i attempt to start the "Prepare for shipping to end user" program it tells me the file dont exist.
[14:14] <iceroot> krised: what file?
[14:14] <shane__> LjL: Thanks. iceroot: So what does 'other' cover?
[14:14] <krised> iceroot oem-config-prepare
[14:14] <LjL> shane__: anyone who's not the owner or the group
[14:15] <iceroot> shane__: you never want to give "others" write access (on /var/www)
[14:15] <shane__> iceroot: I understand that now, so what does 'group' cover then?
[14:15] <LjL> shane__: a file is owned by a user and a group. anyone who's a member of that group can do the operations the group permissions allow on that file.
[14:16] <LjL> shane__: the command "groups" will tell you what groups your currently logged in user is a member of.
[14:16] <shane__> LjL: Ok, thanks. So if I wanted to set permissions for only 1 group that is NOT the owner of the file, I would need to use setfacl?
[14:17] <LjL> shane__: no, if you want to set group permission you just do chmod g+whatever. if you want *multiple* groups or other more baroque things, then you need setfacl
[14:18] <krised> test,
[14:18] <shane__> LjL: Thanks, so correct syntax would be chmod g+www-data 000 (where 000 is the permissions)?
[14:18] <iceroot> shane__: no
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> !info acl
[14:19] <shane__> iceroot: Please explain?
[14:19] <iceroot> shane__: 000 does not make sense
[14:20] <LjL> shane__: no, chown user:group sets the group (if it's already www-data, then no need to do that), while chmod g=permissions sets the permissions. in letters, not numbers, where "r" is for reading, "w" is for writing, and "x" is for executing. so something like chmod g=rw
[14:20] <shane__> iceroot, I said (where 000 is the permissions) - by that I meant replace with appropriate permissions, eg 664
[14:20] <iceroot> shane__: sudo chown -R root:www-data /var/www && sudo chown -R g+w /var/www
[14:20] <LjL> shane__: the numeric format includes permission info for *all of* owner, group and others. if you want to change the group permissions individually, you need to use letters.
[14:20] <shane__> iceroot: I do not want www-data to own /var/www?
[14:21] <iceroot> shane__: that will set www-data as the group and gave write-access to that group
[14:21] <iceroot> shane__: you can also set www-data as owner
[14:21] <shane__> LjL: So I use chmod www-data=(perms) then?
[14:21] <LjL> shane__: ... no
[14:21] <iceroot> shane__: i am always using myusername:www-data on /var/www  so i can change things and www-data can read/write
[14:22] <LjL> shane__: if you don't want www-data to be the group for /var/www, but at the same time you want it to have write permissions, then you will need setfacl. but i don't see why you'd do that.
[14:22] <shane__> iceroot: Doesn't that mean that mysername must be a member of the www-data group?
[14:22] <LjL> shane__: no
[14:22] <LjL> shane__: it doesn't have to, what's important is that when you want to write, whoever writes is a member of www-data (or the owner)
[14:23] <shane__> Ok so the group part is completely independant of the username?
[14:23] <iceroot> shane__: yes
[14:23] <LjL> shane__: yes
[14:23] <shane__> And then any member of the group, and ALSO the username will be owners?
[14:24] <rege> Hi, anybody can help me, when i try get to my ssh i recieve
[14:24] <iceroot> shane__: "owner" is not the correct word
[14:24] <LjL> shane__: in a way. but the actual owner and rthe group can have different permissions.
[14:24] <rege> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[14:24] <LjL> shane__: you could tell it that the owner can write, the group can only read, and others can do nothing, for example.
[14:24] <somsip> shane__: just want to say - stick with it. You're getting good advice and it's real easy to mess permissions up and regret it later
[14:25] <iceroot> shane__: rwx(owner),rwx(grouop)r-x(others)
[14:25] <iceroot> shane__: so you have different permissions for a owner, for a group and all others
[14:25] <iceroot> shane__: is that a public server?
[14:25] <shane__> iceroot: What would be the correct word then? LjL: Ok, I understand that part now. somsip: I know I am getting good advice - they are really patient, aren't they. And I am listening to them but by asking questions I learn more.
[14:26] <somsip> shane__: good for you. Great attitude to have :)
[14:26] <shane__> iceroot: Ok, and no it is (currently) a private server. That may be changed soon.
[14:26] <LjL> shane__: just "file's group" i believe
[14:26] <shane__> somsip: Thanks, as long as my great attitude doesn't wear down those who are teaching me :P
[14:26] <ratcheer> LjL: It is the group of the owner of the file.
[14:27] <LjL> ratcheer: not really
[14:27] <shane__> Ok thanks. I will do that now - set www-data as the group of the file.
[14:27] <LjL> ratcheer: it can be entirely unrelated to groups that the file's owner belongs to.
[14:27] <ratcheer> LjL: Yeah, I guess you're right. The owner could be in multiple groups.
[14:28] <iceroot> shane__: also think about "its not a good idea to make every file writeable for www-data"
[14:28] <LjL> ratcheer: and the group of the file could be one that the owner is *not* in
[14:28] <shane__> iceroot: That is correct.
[14:29] <iceroot> shane__: and please never use 777
[14:29] <shane__> So I have run the following command: sudo chown shane:www-data /var/www  Now if I run chmod 661 /var/www  will that give me the appropriate permissions?
[14:29] <shane__> And thanks, I will keep that in mind.
[14:29] <iceroot> shane__: 1 is wrong
[14:30] <iceroot> shane__: apache needs to read and execute
[14:30] <llutz> 6 on dirs also is wrong shane__
[14:30] <shane__> iceroot: Apache is a member of www-data, I have set that group to the file, now all I need to do is add the permissions, so wouldn't apache run off the group permissions?
[14:31] <shane__> llutz: Can you please explain?
[14:31] <llutz> shane__: 755 is most likely what you want
[14:31] <llutz> !permissions | shane__
[14:31] <iceroot> shane__: 750
[14:31] <LjL> shane__: why don't you use letters? i always found it much easier to understand :)
[14:31] <iceroot> shane__: you can read/write, apache can read, others cant do anything
[14:32] <youknowho> hi
[14:32] <shane__> llutz: I have already read that, this file is a webserver file, so 'others' don't need to execute from the folder.
[14:32] <llutz> shane__: ok, then use iceroots 750
[14:32] <shane__> iceroot: Then apache will not be able to execute cgi files from the www dir?
[14:33] <iceroot> shane__: why not?
[14:33] <iceroot> shane__: apache = www-data
[14:33] <shane__> iceroot: Yes, sorry I meant write to directory sorry.
[14:33] <iceroot> shane__: 5 = r-x  so read and execute
[14:33] <iceroot> shane__: correct
[14:33] <shane__> I am confusing write and execute.
[14:33] <iceroot> shane__: 770 so that apache can write
[14:34] <shane__> Thanks iceroot.
[14:34] <iceroot> shane__: why? write == write, execute == execute
[14:34] <Calliope> Q about mounting RAID at boot, please
[14:34] <iceroot> !details | Calliope
[14:34] <shane__> iceroot: write = 2, execute = 1 but in my brain, write <> 4 and execute <> 4 but write ~= execute and execute ~= write. Get that? :D
[14:35] <iceroot> shane__: r(4),w(2),x(1)
[14:35] <iceroot> shane__: ubottu links have that infos
[14:35] <shane__> Have read links, just need brain to not get confused over it.
[14:36] <Calliope> I have a problem with mounting my RAID when booting
[14:36] <iceroot> !details | Calliope
[14:36] <iceroot> Calliope: so lets go over to usefull details :)
[14:37] <moore> 123
[14:40] <rabbi1> I am using eclipse for php, where should i install eclipse on ubuntu ?
[14:42] <iceroot> rabbi1: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[14:42] <nyrpnz> rabbi1: the ide shouldn't be affected by its location...?
[14:42] <iceroot> rabbi1: use the one from the repos
[14:42] <nyrpnz> iceroot: my first thought, wonder if there is a newer version
[14:42] <iceroot> nyrpnz: normally, yes
[14:42] <iceroot> nyrpnz: why you need a newer version?
[14:43] <rabbi1> iceroot: i have already downloaded, repos provide the older version, anyway i have downloaded the install files
[14:43] <nyrpnz> iceroot: no, but rabbi1 may be wanting it
[14:43] <iceroot> nyrpnz: ah sorry
[14:43] <nyrpnz> iceroot: no problem
[14:43] <iceroot> rabbi1: why you need a newer version?
[14:43] <nyrpnz> having synaptic open in the backround is immensely helpful in this channel
[14:43] <rabbi1> just wanted to know the best directory to install it, as i will be doing an ubuntu upgrade for precise
[14:44] <eros> ciao
[14:44] <iceroot> rabbi1: precise is alpha
[14:44] <eros> ! list
[14:44] <rabbi1> iceroot: for better performance, neither i need a latest one, i have downloaded a stable one though
[14:44] <iceroot> rabbi1: i can just suggest to use the one from the repos and dont update to 12.04
[14:45] <iceroot> rabbi1: if not, install it somewhere in your home
[14:45] <rabbi1> oops, let me keep it simple, i have got eclipse install files, which is the preferred location to install... that's it :)
[14:45] <Tellmarch> in your home is fine if you're the only one using it
[14:45] <nyrpnz> rabbi1: I put manually installed things in /opt
[14:45] <rabbi1> iceroot: i am in my home right now.... :) lol. just kidding. thanks a lot ....
[14:45] <nyrpnz> rabbi1: easy to clean up if things go wrong in install
[14:46] <shane__> iceroot, LjL: Thanks for your help guys
[14:46] <iNzzaaaneee> Anyone have time to help me? Cant install latest ubuntu server.. it tries to detect the CD-ROM but fails, tried google but no luck..
[14:47] <boghog> can ubuntu run inside a vm (virtualbox) that has no 3d acceleration?
[14:47] <rabbi1> it doesn't get installed at all, kool.
[14:47] <boghog> with unity
[14:47] <nyrpnz> boghog: You will be switched to Unity2D or Unity Classic or whatever they call it
[14:47] <boghog> oh, excellent
[14:47] <nyrpnz> boghog: iirc
[14:48] <nyrpnz> boghog: tried installing it on a low-power netbook and that happened
[14:48] <boghog> cool
[14:48] <alfredo> my blogilo doesn't work with blogspot help
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> !info blogilo
[14:48] <boghog> I was worried because with gnome3 it switches to a fallback mode which is basically gnom2 and wil be removed in the future at some point (I wonder how one is supposed to run gnome3 in a vm then :s), glad to hear Unity does it differently
[14:48] <nyrpnz> !details | alfredo
[14:49]  * nyrpnz has never switched from Gnome 2.
[14:49] <alfredo> !info blogilo
[14:49] <rabbi1> how to remove netbeans ide, which i have not installed from synaptic manager :?
[14:50] <fidel> rabbi1: how was it installed?
[14:50] <tyjhfyj> hi all!
[14:50] <rabbi1> fidel: CD, like a windows program
[14:50] <martian> Would anyone who uses chrome and has folders in your bookmark bar mind telling me if you have to click each folder separately to get them to open, or if they are sticky like a typical menu? I feel like this behavior changed recently for me, and in a winxp virtual machine the bookmark folders are 'sticky'. Sorry if this is a bit OT
[14:50] <tyjhfyj> help please!
[14:50] <fidel> rabbi1: so was is a .deb file?
[14:50] <tyjhfyj> KDE 4 autostart script with parameters!?
[14:50] <rabbi1> fidel: yeap
[14:51] <dialtra> hello
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !help| tyjhfyj
[14:51] <tyjhfyj> ЦРУКУ Ещ ШТЫУКЕ,
[14:51] <nyrpnz> tyjhfyj: can you provide some more details?
[14:51] <rabbi1> fidel: sorry, guess so, don't remember... as i can't find that in synaptic manager
[14:51] <tyjhfyj> Where to insert?
[14:52] <tyjhfyj> Please help
[14:52] <fidel> rabbi1: i would try 'dpkg'
[14:52] <martian> tyjhfyj: it's not clear what you want to do
[14:52] <tyjhfyj> xgamma -gamma 2
[14:52] <nyrpnz> rabbi1: this seems to be the solution: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=245822
[14:52] <tyjhfyj> autostart it
[14:52] <rege> hi how to check whats wrong with my ssh i recieve error   ssh_exchange_identification: Connection
[14:52] <rege>               closed by remote host
[14:52] <tyjhfyj> !?
[14:53] <alfredo> ok
[14:53] <martian> tyjhfyj: does gdm start up? do you have a graphical login screen?
[14:53] <alfredo> wait please
[14:53] <tyjhfyj> please
[14:53] <rabbi1> nyrpnz: thanks, but is there a add/remove in ubuntu ?
[14:53] <tyjhfyj> all good
[14:53] <tyjhfyj> Kubuntu
[14:53] <tyjhfyj> xgamma -gamma 2
[14:53] <nyrpnz> tyjhfyj: http://www.ab9il.net/linux/autostarts-kde.html
[14:53] <FloodBot1> tyjhfyj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:53] <alfredo> blogilo work but can't import my blog
[14:53] <tyjhfyj> autostart
[14:54] <martian> rege: on the remote system (the server) check /var/log/auth.log
[14:54] <alfredo> when I go to blog add blog
[14:54] <tyjhfyj> help please
[14:54] <iheartubuntu> I'm setting up automatic updates (security only) on Ubuntu server and I'm setting up apticron.  It asks what configuration I want to set and I don't know which to choose
[14:54] <nyrpnz> rabbi1: not sure what you mean by add/remove, are you referring to a specific program?
[14:54] <rege> but this is only shell
[14:54] <martian> tyjhfyj: we're trying, but it's hard to understand what you are trying to do
[14:54] <rabbi1> nyrpnz: to your suggested post, anyway, searching for the uninstall file
[14:54] <rege> martian: i dont have access to remote computer
[14:55] <rabbi1> nyrpnz: to your suggested post, anyway, searching for the uninstall file
[14:55] <nyrpnz> rabbi1: good luck
[14:55] <tyjhfyj> autostart script
[14:55] <tyjhfyj> i want
[14:55] <nyrpnz> tyjhfyj: did you see the link I wrote?
[14:55] <alfredo> I filled blog/homepage URL:
[14:55] <rege> martian: you think this is remote computer issue
[14:55] <alfredo> AND MY USERNAME
[14:55] <alfredo> AND PASSWORD
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> !caps
[14:55] <tyjhfyj> no work
[14:55] <alfredo> sorry
[14:56] <alfredo> then i go to auto-configure
[14:56] <tyjhfyj> ыщ руку ш фь
[14:56] <martian> rege: most likely. It could be that you have been added to the hosts.deny file in /etc/ or... something else. it's tough to say without access to the server
[14:56] <tyjhfyj> so here i am
[14:56] <alfredo> and appears
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> !ru| tyjhfyj
[14:56] <tyjhfyj> noo
[14:56] <alfredo> Fetching BlogID Failed.
[14:56] <alfredo> Please check your Internet connection.
[14:56] <tyjhfyj> there are no help
[14:56] <tyjhfyj> they not undestand
[14:57] <martian> tyjhfyj: neither are we :) did you see nyrpnz's link?
[14:57] <janweik> I am new to Ubuntu and am at first just trying this out.
[14:57] <nyrpnz> tyjhfyj: it's pretty straightforward, just add a .sh script in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[14:58] <tyjhfyj> they not KNOW sure OMG THEY nOT KNOW
[14:58] <tyjhfyj> undestand but not know
[14:58] <nyrpnz> alfredo: which program are you using (it is hard to understand when the question is broken into ten lines)?
[14:58] <rabbi1> nyrpnz: thanks for the link, seems working :)\
[14:58] <nyrpnz> rabbi1: yay, glad I could help :)
[14:58] <janweik> OK, a question. When I start Dash Home there is a field "Search" on top. But I cannot enter anything there to search for. I cannot write anything in that space.
[14:59] <rabbi1> nyrpnz: pleasure
[14:59] <alfredo> ok. Im using blogilo
[14:59] <tyjhfyj> help please
[14:59] <tyjhfyj> ~/.kde/Autostart/ not work
[14:59] <tyjhfyj> what is END in script?
[14:59] <tyjhfyj> "end"
[15:00] <tyjhfyj> #ubuntu-ru
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> tyjhfyj  try /join #ubuntu-ru
[15:01] <nyrpnz> alfredo: found this: http://blogilo.gnufolks.org/forum/topic/failing-miserably-configuring-blogspot-account
[15:01] <jerryeah> hello i am new
[15:01] <alfredo> ok thanks
[15:01] <tyjhfyj> they not know
[15:01] <tyjhfyj> help here please
[15:01] <nyrpnz> alfredo: if you are running chrome you can autotranslate this page (http://blogilo.gnufolks.org/forum/topic/failing-miserably-configuring-blogspot-account) which seems to have the answer
[15:01] <nyrpnz> alfredo it is in spanish
[15:01] <martian> tyjhfyj: you can stop saying, "please help". Perhaps you could post the script to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> tyjhfyj  we not know
[15:02] <jerryeah> 中文支持吗？
[15:02] <nyrpnz> alfredo: looks like you need the BlogID, not the url...?
[15:02] <tyjhfyj> u know
[15:02] <alfredo> I see that
[15:03] <nyrpnz> alfredo: had you already tried that?
[15:03] <alfredo> no
[15:03] <nyrpnz> alfredo: k then, good luck
[15:04] <alfredo> when I press in advanced Fetch ID
[15:04] <bazhang> tyjhfyj, whats your question.
[15:04] <tyjhfyj> brb
[15:04] <alfredo> apeears: Fetching BlogID Failed.
[15:04] <alfredo> Please check your Internet connection.
[15:04] <tyjhfyj> question
[15:04] <tyjhfyj> yes
[15:05] <bazhang> tyjhfyj, all on ONE line
[15:05] <tyjhfyj> xgamma -gamma 2
[15:05] <nyrpnz> alfredo: where is the Fetch ID button, in the program or in Blogger?
[15:05] <tyjhfyj> autostart script in KDE4
[15:05] <alfredo> in program
[15:05] <nyrpnz> bazhang: As far as I can tell he wants `xgamma -gamma 2` to be executed on start in KDE4
[15:05] <alfredo> in blogilo
[15:06] <bazhang> nyrpnz, ok thanks
[15:06] <alfredo> not worry, Im going out
[15:06] <nyrpnz> alfredo: try going to your settings in Blogger, and in the url should be something that looks like &blogID=XXXXXXXXX, copy the number into Blogilo
[15:06] <rege> ok thanks for help
[15:06] <alfredo> thanks for all friend
[15:06] <nyrpnz> bazhang: no problem
[15:06] <tyjhfyj> ilbb
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> tyjhfyj: so you want to add that to your kDE autostart?
[15:07] <nyrpnz> tyjhfyj You said that it didn't work when you put the .sh in ~/.kde/Autostart/ ?
[15:07] <nyrpnz> tyjhfyj try changing the .sh permissions to executable
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> nyrpnz: gone
[15:08] <nyrpnz> ActionParsnip: thanks
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> nyrpnz: the file doesn't need the .sh extension, it doesn't change anything
[15:08] <nyrpnz> ActionParsnip: there is more leaving and arriving in this channel than talking
[15:08] <nyrpnz> ActionParsnip: helps me know what it is, I guess I suggested out of habbit
[15:09] <ubuntu__> Hello
[15:09] <Rainpebble> wow
[15:09] <ubuntu__> I was wondering if somebody could lend  me a hand?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Rainpebble: wassup?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: ask away
[15:09] <nyrpnz> !ask | ubuntu__
[15:10] <derpladee> hey how do i make a program start up when i log in?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> derpladee: in which desktop?
[15:11] <hexbase> hi, when i start squid3, 2 process start, one from proxy user and the other is from root user. i've compiled squid3 myself
[15:11] <ikonia> hexbase: that's normal
[15:11] <ikonia> hexbase: why did you compile squid instead of using the one from the repo ?
[15:12] <RUSUSER> hi!
[15:12] <RUSUSER> Helpplease!
[15:12] <g105b> here we go...
[15:12] <nyrpnz> RUSUSER: ask away
[15:12] <RUSUSER> it script no work
[15:12] <ikonia> RUSUSER: you need to ask a question
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: what does the script do?
[15:12] <ubuntu__> I have just installed Ubuntu onto a partition on my computer that came with windows 7, but rather then now booting into GRUB, it is still booting into windows. Do you know how I can make it boot into grub? The computer I am using has an efi boot, rather then the normal BIOS, if that makes any difference.
[15:12] <hexbase> ikonia, i needed a special option. well, if it's normal, why when i want it to close the init script doesnt work?
[15:12] <RUSUSER> if i have script in it folder then KDE not start (
[15:12] <nyrpnz> RUSUSER: it helps us help if you ask one one line
[15:12] <fidel> ikonia: ;)
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: is the file marked as executable?
[15:12] <g105b> RUSUSER: remove the script again?
[15:12] <ikonia> hexbase: did you write the init script or are you using the ubuntu init script ?
[15:13] <hexbase> ikonia, ubuntu init script
[15:13] <derpladee> ActionParsnip, gnome i think
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: boot to liveCD and you can reinstate grub2
[15:13] <hexbase> ikonia, it starts well, but it doesnt stop
[15:13] <ikonia> hexbase: ok, so that's why, that's upstart managed,
[15:13] <derpladee> it's just the standard desktop that comes with ubuntu
[15:13] <RUSUSER> no
[15:13] <derpladee> only thing i changed is that i am using compiz for window manager
[15:13] <ikonia> hexbase: you've probably not laid out the custom squid build in the same style so it can't get the status correctly (just guessing)
[15:13] <RUSUSER> now i do it
[15:13] <nyrpnz> ubuntu__ if I'm not mistaken, holding shift on some computers brings up the BIOS...?
[15:13] <ikonia> nyrpnz: never seen that
[15:13] <martian> RUSUSER: did you set the script to be executable? Are you sure the script works? Have you tried running it manually?
[15:14] <nyrpnz> ikonia: hrm, okay, then I am mistaken :)
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> derpladee: then you can either run the startup items app, or put a .desktop to run the command in ~/.config/autostart
[15:14] <hexbase> ikonia, then how do i fix it?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: if the file isn't marked as executable, its just a text file
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> RUSUSER  = tyjhfyj
[15:14] <hexbase> ikonia, any workaround?
[15:14] <ikonia> hexbase: you need to make your service upstart complient/configured
[15:14] <ikonia> hexbase: or write your own init script
[15:14] <RUSUSER> thx brb
[15:14] <pwork> Hello, I ve a big problem : I ve a 2.6.35 natty kernel with an ATI Radeon HD on it. I had a driver issue, so I uninstalled all : fglrx, reconfigure xserver and so. I just placed a trustful vesa xorg.conf
[15:15] <pwork> But it won 't boot
[15:15] <hexbase> ikonia, are you sure it's normal to have 2 squid process?
[15:15] <ikonia> hexbase: yes
[15:15] <ikonia> %100
[15:15] <ikonia> hexbase: I'm surprised you've not read up on this before making a custom compile
[15:15] <nyrpnz> pwork: what's the problem?
[15:15] <pwork> And I can't boot in single user mode neither : I enter a LUKS pass, text mode, then screen jumps to X, resolution changes, and I see mount points check
[15:15] <nyrpnz> pwork: okay, missed that line
[15:15] <hexbase> ikonia, no i've not. squid wiki doesnt say anything
[15:16] <pwork> nyrpnz: hello, thanks. Problem is that I can't access my machien anymore, through single user mode or not
[15:16] <derpladee> ActionParsnip, thanks
[15:16] <ikonia> hexbase: wiki != reading up about the software you are trying to build
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> pwork: add the bootoption: xforcevesa     may help
[15:16] <hexbase> ikonia, whoever makes the squid build for ubuntu, should add the --enable-http-violations.
[15:16] <pwork> I tried to chroot from a Ubuntu live CD, and reinstall repositories fglrx, but with no success (failed on "uname -r", that was the host one, and not the chroot one)
[15:16] <hexbase> ikonia, i know, i thought i've read enough
[15:17] <nyrpnz> pwork: it gets into X?
[15:17] <RUSUSER> gamma increases, but the next moment it has become common.
[15:17] <Dreaman> not use fglrx
[15:18] <Dreaman> free drivewr is good
[15:18] <RUSUSER> HELP PLEASE!
[15:18] <pwork> nyrnpz: Yes, when starting into single user mode, it gets in to X, what I don 't want. In normal mode, it goes X as expected, but X crashes
[15:18] <RUSUSER> gamma increases, but the next moment it has become common.
[15:18] <nyrpnz> pwork: fglrx severely screwed up my computer, so much I had to reformat
[15:18] <hexbase> ikonia, then i'll have to make a custom stop script
[15:18] <RUSUSER> :(
[15:18] <pwork> I just have an underscore blinking at top left, black screen
[15:18] <nyrpnz> pwork: try ctrl-alt-f1..?
[15:19] <nyrpnz> pwork: if you are given a login, you probably have a misconfigured xorg.conf or are missing the appropriate driver packages
[15:19] <RUSUSER> KDE4 autostart script xgamma -gamma 2 .kde/Autostart HELP PLEASE!
[15:19] <nyrpnz> pwork: if you don't get a login you are far past my knowledge
[15:19] <pwork> nyrpnz: I'm given no login, but a LUKS/crypted HDD pass prompt
[15:19] <pwork> It s the earlier step
[15:19] <smjms> so how do I know whether my flash player actually cares about /etc/adobe/mms.cfg?
[15:20] <nyrpnz> pwork right, I mean after the black screen with the blinking cursor
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: wil you please quit the caps. Its really unnecessary
[15:20] <nyrpnz> pwork: press ctrl-alt-f1 then
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: we can read lower case
[15:20] <pwork> After this screen, I go nowhere
[15:20] <smjms> when I set FullScreenDisable to 1, full-screen still works in YouTube
[15:20] <pwork> It stays in this state. Ctrl Alt F1 did not work :)
[15:20] <citr-mint-745> Greetings all, I'm working on creating a Public Access Workstation. It will have Internet access. But needs some level of security so they can't do any system level installs or changes. Any ideas on the best setup for this?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: everybody else is using lower case and getting assisted aren;t they?
[15:21] <nyrpnz> pwork: ctrl-alt-f2 would be my last idea, sometimes ttyl1 doesn't work
[15:21] <RUSUSER> #ubuntu-ruwhat?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> citr-mint-745  use the guest-account
[15:21] <RUSUSER> #ubuntu-ru
[15:21] <smjms> I'm testing Flash Player 11.2 and YouTube videos have red and blue channels swapped
[15:21] <pwork> nyrnpz: I tried to, with no luck
[15:21] <RUSUSER> what?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: just keep them out of the admin group
[15:21] <pwork> too
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: try adding a sleep command in the script
[15:21] <RUSUSER> HELP PLEASE!
[15:21] <smjms> which is why I'd like /etc/adobe/mms.cfg to actually do something in order to configure stuff
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: again with the caps. stop the damn caps
[15:22] <citr-mint-745> And by doing that ActionParsnip they will still be able to use most of the productivity apps and such??
[15:22] <RUSUSER> WHY ?
[15:22] <nyrpnz> pwork: sorry, it's beyond me
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: because its against channel policy
[15:22] <Seryth> What program is it that opens 7z files? I remember installing something before...
[15:22] <pwork> I can read "Starting CUPS printing spooler/server", then it seems idled
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: its harder to read
[15:22] <RUSUSER> no
[15:22] <RUSUSER> i about sleep
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: it looks like you are shouting
[15:22] <pwork> I see this when doing ctrl + alt +F7
[15:22] <citr-mint-745> Seryth: 7zip
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: its unnecessary
[15:22] <nyrpnz> pwork: yeah, that's normal
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: want me to continue?
[15:22] <nyrpnz> pwork: if X is down
[15:22] <RUSUSER> sure
[15:23] <smjms> so where should I ask if this channel isn't very helpful?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: quit with the caps
[15:23] <Seryth> citr-mint-745: sudo apt-get install 7zip?
[15:23] <pwork> nyrnpz: I should have a root user prompt at this step so far ?
[15:23] <RUSUSER>  #!/bin/sh xgamma -gamma 2 end
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: add a sleep command towait 10 seconds or so before running the command
[15:23] <citr-mint-745> i think so Seryth it is in there somewhere
[15:23] <RUSUSER> How?
[15:23] <nyrpnz> pwork: but if you see the CUPS boot message... I don't have any clue why the ctrl-alt-# doesn't work
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: add the command:   sleep 10    to the script....
[15:24] <citr-mint-745> Thanks for the help, I'll go try to make a new users who isn't apart of the Admin group
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> RUSUSER: obviously add it above the gamma command or it will achieve nothing
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: its the default user model.
[15:25] <citr-mint-745> what do you mean ActionParsnip ?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    on the system please?
[15:26] <citr-mint-745> oneiric
[15:26] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: this is Ubuntu 11.10 32bit with Gnome3 loaded
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: the default user model for oneiric is to not be in the admin group, admins must then add the user to the admin group if they are wanted to be admins
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: unlike windows where the default user model is admin
[15:27] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: Gotcha, so if I wanted a generic user, who can just use apps and programs and such, but can't install or change anything, then I can create such user?
[15:28] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: or just use the default user, as long as the public doesn't know the password?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: sure, a fresh user will only be able to use the OS, not perform and admin tasks
[15:29] <Seryth> I'm running Ubuntu with xfce. I've just downloaded a theme from xfce-look.org, and it contains a few different files, which I'm not sure wehre to put. Could someone give me a hand? The folders the zip contains are: gtk-2.0, gtk-3.0, xfce-notify-4.0 and xfwm4.
[15:29] <citr-mint-745> and what about using USB jump drives and such.... because they aren't an admin, they can't install viruses? I'm more worried about all the other Windows Computers around it
[15:29] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: this is for a university library, but it is part of their public access computers. So anyone can use it and not have to log on. I'm trying to give people more access to more tools for education and such
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: they will need the password to log in. I would either make a new account or use the guest account
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: or make individual accounts
[15:31] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: like a user named: public and password 'password'
[15:32] <gusbru> hello! someone have a good material about how to implement modules in ubuntu, e.g. module load ...
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: the guest account already exists
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> gusbru: if you add the module name in /etc/modules    it will be automatically loaded for you
[15:33] <citr-mint-745> Ok thanks ActionParsnip
[15:33] <rabbi1> nyrpnz: got eclipse running great, thanks, now moving on to php project setup s ... take care
[15:33] <gusbru> tks ActionParsnip!
[15:39] <Effex> Is it possible to use grep to exclude a specified word in it's output?
[15:39] <llutz> Effex: grep something file|grep -v notwantedword
[15:39] <Effex> Thanks!
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> that excludes all lines that contain the word
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> not sure if thats exactly what you want
[15:40] <xsl> anyone knows how that a machine that has X installed... goes by default for tty1
[15:40] <xsl> but i want X to be up
[15:40] <chromaticwt> do ext4 partitions ever require defragmenting?
[15:40] <Effex> Yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm trying to filter out CRON jobs from a log I'm tailing
[15:40] <xsl> and i do CTRL-ALT-f7 to show it
[15:40] <llutz> chromaticwt: yes
[15:41] <chromaticwt> llutz: how do I defragment the partiton, and how can I find out if the partition needs this?
[15:42] <llutz> chromaticwt: from 12.04 there will be "e4defrag" which is supposed to to the defragmentation-job.
[15:43] <llutz> chromaticwt: to find the level of fragmentation, run fsck and check "non-contiguous files" cout
[15:43] <llutz> count
[15:44] <hexbase> ikonia, i fixed it
[15:44] <hexbase> ikonia, it was a wrong pid filename the problem
[15:44] <hexbase> ikonia, thanks and bye
[15:44] <Seryth> How can I restart the notifications deamon?
[15:44] <Seryth> daemon*
[15:45] <llutz> chromaticwt: some info http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2011/11/04/defragmenting-ext4-file-systems-with-e4defrag-coming-soon-to-a-distribution-near-you/
[15:45] <xsl> anyone knows how i have by default the system booting for tty1 instead of tty7 ( X session ) even if i have X installed and running, i want to CTRL-ALT-F7 manually
[15:45] <chromaticwt> say that again?
[15:46] <xsl> chromaticwt: me?
[15:46] <chromaticwt> I missed the last post to me.
[15:46] <chromaticwt> I think it was something about info.
 chromaticwt: some info http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2011/11/04/defragmenting-ext4-file-systems-with-e4defrag-coming-soon-to-a-distribution-near-you/
[15:49] <cordyceps> Lubuntu-11.10 here. I just heard my APC cutting in and out. Does anyone know where this activity is logged?
[15:50] <Seryth> How can I restart the notifications daemon?
[15:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> cordyceps - try cat /var/log/syslog - and do you have the lead plugge din ....
[15:51] <chromaticwt> thnx
[15:52] <cordyceps> RaTTuS|BIG: yes it's plugged. not in syslog
[15:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> cordyceps - tail -f /var/log/syslog and pull the plug .... ?
[15:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> cordyceps - tail -f /var/log/syslog and pull the plug .... ?
[15:55] <pratheek_> hello :D
[15:55] <benvei> ow shit :o
[15:55] <benvei> :o
[15:56] <ahayzen> benvei: I think the server is back up :)
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[15:56] <dil3mm4> mmmh
[15:56] <dil3mm4> they're back
[15:56] <dil3mm4> !ask
[15:56] <benvei> ahayzen, hehe :p
[15:57] <nlko> hey, i just installed ubuntu 64 bit, and opted for the disk encryption. at the first boot the resoltuion of that boot image was fine, now i have installed a driver that ubuntu asked me to, the resolution for the crypto password form has gone bad, where is this edited?
[15:57] <pratheek_> hello , how to I get started on developing apps for ubuntu ?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> man tail     always makes me chuckle
[15:57] <pratheek_> *do
[15:57] <dil3mm4> ive just installed ubuntu oneiric 32 bit, but only on the desk i got a white square instead of cursor.... can anyone tell me why it happens and possibly how to fix it?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> dil3mm4: what GPU do you use?
[15:57] <Pici> pratheek_: See #ubuntu-app-devel and http://developer.ubuntu.com
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> dil3mm4: are you fully updated?
[15:58] <pratheek_> Pici: Thanks !
[15:59] <xsl> anyone knows why apparmor takes long time to load?
[15:59] <dil3mm4> Pici,  an answer for me? :P
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> dil3mm4: I asked you some questions.....
[16:01] <dil3mm4> ActionParsnip, sorry...
[16:01] <dil3mm4> ActionParsnip, i'm not fully updated right now...
[16:01] <dil3mm4> ActionParsnip, and i use an old RAEDON 9200 SE
[16:01] <hjack76> sup guys, i'm having a nvidia-related resolution issue, can anybody lend me a hand? i get no response from #nvidia...
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> dil3mm4: run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade   ad get full updates
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: what is the issue?
[16:02] <dil3mm4> uhm... and if the problem comes up again ActionParsnip ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> dil3mm4: we'll cross that bridge if we get there
[16:02] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, i can't set a specific resolution, 1600x900
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> dil3mm4: getting updates fixes a lot of things
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: does nvidia-settings give an error when it's launched/
[16:03] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, i'm on a philips HDTV, i know it can do it and i can even set it to 1080p
[16:03] <nlko> anyone know why my resolution for my full disk encryption has changed after installing a new driver? or where i edit the conf to get it back
[16:03] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, no, it actually just won't display that res in nvidia-settings
[16:04] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, i tried adding the mode using xrandr
[16:04] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, it "kinda" works, but parts of the screen are missing
[16:05] <derpladee> hey is there any way to play a sound from the terminal? i have a program that i run from terminal and i want the terminal to play a sound when the program has executed so i know it's done
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: if you run:   gksudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings     set the res to something and click "save to x config file". Close nvidia-settings and run:  gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and change the resolution in the screen section to what you desire and rebot
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: if you get no display, drop to root recovery mode and rename or delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and reboot. Note the X in X11 is CAPITALIZED, Linux is case sensitive
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> derpladee: mplayer and aplay can play sounds in cli
[16:07] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, gonna try it now, ty in advance
[16:08] <Linkmaster> im planning on building my own box, and im looking to get this graphics card, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-121-435&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo, and im wondering if it works well with linux, i didnt see anything with linux on the reviews
[16:08] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: Me again :) I created this public user, in the user account area. But it didn't ask for a password, I told it to login automaticlally but don't know the password?!
[16:08] <Linkmaster> *specifically the *buntus
[16:09] <mneptok> Linkmaster: what are you planning on doing with this machine?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: you can run:  passwd name     (change name for the actual username) and you can set the password
[16:09] <Linkmaster> mneptok: regular desktop usage
[16:09] <mneptok> Linkmaster: Linux only?
[16:10] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: why can't you do that in the Gnome3 gui? seems odd to me
[16:10] <Linkmaster> mneptok: preferably. i dont want to deal with windows, cept through wine if necesary. im building the machine from the ground up
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: irc is a text based interface so giving command line commands rather than typing. Click this, then select and click this, is laborious
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Linkmaster: if you aren't gaming a cheaper card will be fine
[16:11] <mneptok> Linkmaster: that card is overkill for basic Linux desktop usage
[16:11] <citr-mint-745> I was referring to the GUI for the account settings
[16:11] <Pici> Linkmaster: It will work though, phoronix actually reviewed that card for Linux here: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_gtx_550ti
[16:11] <Linkmaster> ill be doing some gaming as well as high-cpu tasks
[16:11] <citr-mint-745> but thanks I did change the password via cli :)
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Linkmaster: getting an nvidia card is good but something mid range will be cheaper and more likely to work with the driver in the repos
[16:12] <mneptok> Linkmaster: GPU != CPU
[16:12] <Linkmaster> mneptok: sorry, typo
[16:13] <mneptok> Linkmaster: what GPU intensive tasks do you have planned for Linux?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: same bag, I try and use CLI stuff so users can copy and paste commands rather than thempossibly clicking the wrong thing
[16:14] <flintwingel> GPU's are good for password cracking ;)
[16:14] <Papav3ro> hacking around here... ù.ù XDDD
[16:14] <Linkmaster> mneptok: running linux games for one, im going to be using wine with my windows games as well, im doing some programming, compiling, etc etc
[16:14] <Barbariandude> I can attest to that. My one can do 20 mill attempts per second
[16:14] <Barbariandude> not too bad for a laptop
[16:14] <Linkmaster> ^and that =P
[16:15] <mneptok> Linkmaster: Linux games are still not going to need that much GPU. Windows games will. and WINE is not how you want to be gaming, by all accounts.
[16:15] <citr-mint-745> good point
[16:15] <RyuGuns> What is a good sandbox software for ubuntu?
[16:15]  * mneptok is not a WINE user, nor a PC gamer
[16:15] <RyuGuns> Eww Console games :O
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Linkmaster: urbanterror runs well on my Sempron AM2 with onboard nvidia 6150LE GPU with 512Mb video and 2Gb DDR2 RAM :)
[16:16] <Barbariandude> mneptok, I game on WINE with sc2, it's ok. And it works just as fast as windows for OpenGL games
[16:16] <Linkmaster> i dont want actual windows, since that involves duelbooting or a VM, both of which i dislike
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Linkmaster: VMs won't game well at all
[16:16] <mneptok> Linkmaster: then be aware that game performance may be spotty. choose titles carefully.
[16:16] <Linkmaster> Barbariandude: wine is faster for me on my netbooks with linux then it is on windows itself, when i can get it to work
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> RyuGuns: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/glimpse-linux-offers-safe-sandboxed-testing-unstable-apps/
[16:17] <Barbariandude> Linkmaster, yeah, that can be a bit tricky
[16:17] <mneptok> Linkmaster: "when i can get it to work" is key
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Linkmaster: the Penumbra Series is very worth the money
[16:17] <Linkmaster> hahah, but my little netbook doesnt have the power of the machine im building, so i think thats the key
[16:17] <Barbariandude> Linux gamers do need to pick titles carefully. My big change was from LoL to HoN when I made the switch
[16:18] <RyuGuns> No good linux FPS. :(
[16:18] <Linkmaster> Im wanting to play HoN, but it doesnt work very nicely ):
[16:18] <Linkmaster> RyuGuns: openarena =P
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> RyuGuns: penumbra or urbanterror
[16:18] <Barbariandude> RyuGuns, Xonotic and Warsow
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> RyuGuns: world of padman
[16:18] <Barbariandude> me personally, don't like padman or urbanterror
[16:18] <RyuGuns> Most of them look like they were made 2 years ago..
[16:18] <Barbariandude> and openarena is dated
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> RyuGuns: I've also played halflife2, doom3 and postal2in wine and they ran VERY well
[16:19] <Barbariandude> Xonotic is modern
[16:19] <Barbariandude> postal 2 is native linux now
[16:19] <RyuGuns> ActionParsnip: I hate using emulation software for applications, just using windows is better.
[16:19] <Barbariandude> RyuGuns, seriously, check out Xonotic. I think you'll like it.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Barbariandude: last release or openarena was 4 days ago, not dated at all
[16:20] <bullgard4> Doesn't Synaptic give an information as to what Section a certain DEB program package belongs? (Gor example 'universe')
[16:20] <bullgard4> Doesn't Synaptic give an information as to what Section a certain DEB program package belongs? (For example 'universe')
[16:20] <artichoku> hi there
[16:20] <artichoku> struggling over here with wireless issues
[16:21] <artichoku> i just did a fresh install and STA came on. Removed it because wireless wasn't working and rolled back to b43 driver
[16:21] <bullgard4> !wireless | artichoku
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: you can use apt-cache   and it will say
[16:21] <RyuGuns> Barbariandude: Okay, looks good.
[16:21] <artichoku> now the wireless works, but monitor mode is stuck in channel -1
[16:21] <cawel> artichoku: tell me about it. I've been rebooting my laptop dozens of times because of my wireless card in the last 3 days.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: apt-cache show mplayer | egrep 'verse|main'       will do it
[16:21] <RyuGuns> I was looking for a more realistic kinda FPS..
[16:21] <RyuGuns> Like COD or BF
[16:21] <cawel> Still haven't found out a solution. http://askubuntu.com/questions/98211/switching-the-hardware-wireless-switch-on-makes-dell-vostro-1500-freeze
[16:22] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Yes. But can you tell me why Synaptic does not?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> RyuGuns: urbanterror is a lot like counterstrike
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: no idea, I don't use GUI for packages, I find them too slow
[16:22] <mrdeb> when will steam be on ubuntu
[16:22] <RyuGuns> As far as I see no steam on ubuntu.
[16:22] <artichoku> for that matter, i'll be more than happy just ton install 9.10 where it worked perfectly, if i could find a damn download for it
[16:22] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Right. Thank you very much for your help.
[16:23] <artichoku> anyone have a link for 9.10?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> RyuGuns  mrdeb http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/games.html
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: why, its not supported anymore...?
[16:23] <artichoku> because my wireless card used mon0 correctly
[16:23] <cawel> artichoku: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/
[16:23] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: my public user can browse to the contents of the admins home folder, should that be the case?
[16:23] <Barbariandude> mrdeb, Valve has no plans to do that. I think they don't see enough profit in it to warrant the port.
[16:23] <artichoku> ty cawel
[16:24] <mrdeb> barbar, but without it linux has no real games so now what
[16:24] <Linkmaster> mneptok: Barbariandude thanks for supplying me with help on the card (: and mneptok, i also want it for bragging rights, haha xD
[16:24] <Barbariandude> mrdeb, www.desura.com
[16:24] <mrdeb> huh
[16:24] <artichoku> lest i can fix t his mon0 channel issue, i'll be forced to go back
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> desura has gone open source
[16:24] <mrdeb> is this wine
[16:25] <mrdeb> bec wine is bad
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: you can run (as your admin): chmod -R o-rwx   and only the your user will have access
[16:25] <rhin0> I take it it is possible now to change back to gnome classic on ubuntu 11.10 - because I am now going to use 11.10
[16:25] <ikonia> artichoku: are you trying to use wireshark by any chance ?
[16:25] <citr-mint-745> OOhh.. thanks ActionParsnip
[16:25] <artichoku> naw
[16:25] <Barbariandude> mrdeb, no, it's all native linux games, 100+ of them last time I looked
[16:25] <artichoku> airodump
[16:25] <rhin0> because a month ago I was told it wasn't possible
[16:25] <ikonia> artichoku: if you join #wireshark, the guys in there have a fix for that in their factoids
[16:25] <rhin0> can I change back to gnome classic on ubuntu 11.10
[16:25] <mrdeb> wow ok
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> artichoku: i suggest you upgrade to a supported release soon. Precise is out soon too, You could use that
[16:26] <rhin0> hell I can't even get the bash prompt in unity
[16:26] <rhin0> i hate un ity
[16:26] <Psi-Jack> rhin0: Not Gnome Classic, but you can install gnome-shell which is Gnome 3.2
[16:26] <ikonia> rhin0: ok, don't use it, it's that simple
[16:26] <Barbariandude> !nounity | rhin0
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> !notunity| rhin0 please don't start
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[16:26] <mrdeb> rhi, you hit ctrl atl and t for term
[16:26] <Barbariandude> MonkeyDust, c-c-c-combo breaker
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Barbariandude  ?
[16:26] <rhin0> gnome 3.2 was what shell what verion of ubuntu was that on
[16:27] <ikonia> artichoku: sorry, not wireshark, aircrack
[16:27] <artichoku> i'm going to check #wireshark
[16:27] <artichoku> brb
[16:27] <ikonia> artichoku: sorry, wait,
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> The whole "I hate unity" is getting real old now
[16:27] <Barbariandude> MonkeyDust, simultaneously giving the same command to ubottu
[16:27] <rhin0> actionparsnip its for apple freaks
[16:27] <ikonia> artichoku: it's #aircrack, not #wireshark
[16:27] <ikonia> rhin0: don't use it, stop ranting
[16:27] <rhin0> i can't deal sorry
[16:27] <rhin0> can't even find the bash shell
[16:27] <ikonia> rhin0: you've just been told how to get it
[16:27]  * rhin0 cries
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  type ctrl-alt t
[16:28] <ikonia> artichoku: join #aircrack-ng and explain they have the solution in a factoid in thier bot
[16:28]  * rhin0 sighs
[16:28] <rhin0> ok
[16:28] <Barbariandude> or, you know, type terminal in the dash
[16:28] <rhin0> so i get gnome back
[16:28] <Barbariandude> that also works
[16:28] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: that gave me error: missing operand after 'o-rwx'
[16:28] <ikonia> artichoku: sorry for the wrong channel
[16:29] <rhin0> like t-e-r-m-i-n-a-l when I could earlier just click on an applet on the taskbar
[16:29] <rhin0> whats the point of that
[16:29] <cawel> Does that look like a driver issue? Should I try another driver? http://askubuntu.com/questions/98211/switching-the-hardware-wireless-switch-on-makes-dell-vostro-1500-freeze
[16:29] <Barbariandude> rhin0, you can pin it to the launcher so it takes 1 click. It's what I did
[16:29] <ikonia> rhin0: to stop you complaining/me wines stuff - I told you, stop ranting, people will help, or don't use unity, it's that simple
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: hmod -R o-rwx /home/name     chnage name obviously
[16:30] <rhin0> hopefull it won't freeze up like 11.10 was
[16:30] <rhin0> i mean 11.04
[16:30] <citr-mint-745> so i do that for the admin or public or both?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: there is always xfce, it looks and smells like Gnome2 :)
[16:31] <rhin0> yes ... but xubuntu was giving me problems
[16:31] <nancy-->  can anyone recommend a "trustable" well renouned vps (with root access) vps provider     for $10 /month  . (also charged per month)? i signed at fdcservers.net but they  cancelled my order because they were unable to verify card. strange  ?
[16:31] <rhin0> i have to go to something new sorry will get around to looking at unity
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: as the admin, the default is that users can see each others files
[16:31] <Pici> nancy--: Not an Ubuntu support question, try #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions.
[16:31] <rhin0> hopefully - driver issues will be sorted on 11.10
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: chmod, not hmod obviosly. typo
[16:32] <rhin0> becuase my dell inspiron m5010 was freezing with xubuntu 11.10 with ubuntu 11.04
[16:32] <blitz> if there's a little triangle next to chat in the top right drop down menu does that mean empathy or whatever it's called is on and I'm signed in?
[16:32] <shadykhan> is the best way to cross browser test in ubuntu to vm windows?
[16:32] <rhin0> use virtualbox shadykhan
[16:32] <Si2100> or VMware Player
[16:32] <citr-mint-745> that worked ActionParsnip! thanks.... you're one smart cookie!
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> shadykhan: there is no single best solution for anything
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: just been using the OS long enough
[16:33] <blitz> +1 virtualbox
[16:33] <Si2100> -1 xD
[16:33] <citr-mint-745> what version are you using ActionParsnip ?
[16:33] <bullgard4> The commands who and w will show who is actually logged on. --  But what command will show what user accounts are set up on the current computer?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: version of what?
[16:33] <citr-mint-745> Linux
[16:34] <Pici> bullgard4: getent passwd
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: I use lubuntu and xpud
[16:34] <ikonia> bullgard4: you can also look in the password file
[16:34] <yase> hi
[16:36] <bullgard4> Pici, ikonia Thank you for your help.
[16:36] <Stereocaulon> After the update from 10.04 I´m having trouble wit the scim replacement ibus. The majority of programs show ¨No input screeen¨ whereas scim worked in *any* application. Any hints how to fix this?
[16:36] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: would i do the same chmod -R o-rwx for /bin, /usr etc so the public user can see the contents of those folder either? Or Would that cause them to not be able to run apps?
[16:36] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, hey dude, it's the guy with the resolution problem again
[16:37] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, didn't work, i got black screen
[16:37] <varikonniemi> is there some way to create a raid 1 array with the other disk missing?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: dang
[16:37] <varikonniemi> i guess there is, but not via GUI ?
[16:37] <pwork> What is a good method to override the host "uname -r" in a chroot ?
[16:38] <Stereocaulon> Varikonniemi, no, you´ll need two *identical* HDD´s
[16:38] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, i assume it's EDID-related... after all i'm not having high-res limitation, it's just the res that i want that doesn't show in nvidia-settings
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: yea, sounds like your screen isnt reporting it/ Good screens do that
[16:38] <varikonniemi> Stereocaulon, since they are copies of one another, and can work without one another
[16:38] <HumanCondition> hjack76:  you can add a resolution using xrandr
[16:38] <varikonniemi> why cannot they be created without one another?
[16:39] <exogrim> in OpenVPN config file, is "show-net-up" a windows configuration? i downloaded a config file and i get "Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in sweden.ovpn:146: show-net-up (2.2.0)"
[16:39] <Stereocaulon> varikonniemi, that depends if it´s hardware RAID or software RAID. Software RAID is more flexible, but you´ ll loose some performance.
[16:40] <hjack76> HumanCondition, i already did it, i can use xrandr --newmode modeline but xrandr --addmode "output" "mode" gives me the xrandr help msg
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: you'll need to fight the xorg.conf file til it plaus nice
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> *plays
[16:40] <varikonniemi> Stereocaulon, yes i am using mdadm with ubuntu gui
[16:40] <HumanCondition> hjack76: uhh. weird. never had a problem with xrandr my self. you sure it didn't add the res anyway? check xrandr -q
[16:40] <Si2100> am using Ubuntu with Gnome-Shell
[16:41] <acidrain> does anyone know of any 2 way encryptions that shorten the string?
[16:41] <Stereocaulon> varikonniemi, mdadm? What´ s that?
[16:41] <varikonniemi> but i guess i will have to google or ask from some #mdadm channel or something for indepth how tos
[16:41] <hjack76> ActionParsnip, fact is, there's a point when i can get 1600x900_60 to work, but parts of the screen go missing
[16:41] <varikonniemi> mdadm is a Linux utility used to manage software RAID devices.
[16:41] <Raffff> hi
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> hjack76: here is mine:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/816638/   my screen sets a stupidly high res with insane DPI resulting in huge text and tony everything else
[16:42] <acidrain> can anyone at least lead me to the direction that would give me the answers i am looking for?
[16:42] <acidrain> or is what im talking about not possible?
[16:42] <bullgard4> !enter | acidrain
[16:42] <Stereocaulon>  After the update from 10.04 I´m having trouble with the scim replacement ibus. The majority of programs show ¨No input screeen¨ whereas scim worked in *any* application. Dead keys don´t work anymore and I can´ t type any Japanese anymore, even though I do have both ibus and Anthy installed. Any hints how to fix this?
[16:43] <acidrain> :/
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: which string?
[16:43] <hjack76> HumanCondition, xrandr -q shows me the res i added in the bottom
[16:43] <Pici> acidrain: I don't see what this has to do with Ubuntu... maybe a programming channel would be more appropriate?
[16:43] <HumanCondition> hjack76: can you pastebin for me xrandr -q ?
[16:43] <hjack76> HumanCondition, like i said, i can force it, but 20% of the screen is not visible until i move my mouse there
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: in 105 mins Ive been in the channel, you haven't said what "the string" is
[16:44] <HumanCondition> hjack76: hrm.
[16:44] <acidrain> ActionParsnip: the string i am talking about is anyting i want it to be
[16:44] <HumanCondition> hjack76: what res are you trying for and is it an hdmi tv or a monitor ?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: so an app or script takes a string and shortens it?
[16:44] <flintwingel> varikonniemi: have you tried mdadm --level=mirror --raid-devices=1 ?
[16:44] <hjack76> HumanCondition, i'm trying to set 1600x900_60, i'm on a philips hdtv via hdmi connection
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: is that what you are after?
[16:45] <acidrain> ActionParsnip: lets say i have a string of 20000 characters. what encryption, that is 2 ways, will epically shorten it.
[16:45] <Pici> acidrain: Again... what does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[16:45] <edheldil> Hi, all, does anybody know of a good app for managing database o servers, racks, licenses, etc. Something like RackMonkey, but more customizable. RM seems to be dead for a while :(
[16:45] <hjack76> HumanCondition, i can set 1080p with no issues, but 1600x900 won't show in nvidia-settings or xrandr
[16:45] <Raffff> ubuntu 11.10 has an option in User Account to allow my user to log in without typing a password in the login screen. I used it, and after it, my user password was not recognise dby sudo nor by policykit (unique installation administrator user), I have set a new password to my user by passwd from recovery mode, and now it is recognised by sudo and policykit, but the password is still not requested by login screen (lightdm), and I
[16:45] <Raffff> would like to have to type the password now, I have set again a different password via User Accounts module, and still is not asked in lightdm. How can I set password at login again?
[16:45] <acidrain> Pici: plz read my text carefully. thanks.
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: i'd ask in a programming channel, or #bash
[16:45] <flintwingel> acidrain: encryption won't shorten it necessarily... coompression might
[16:45] <acidrain> thx
[16:46] <urlin2u> Raffff, theguest is not in the all users no sudo there uless you add it.
[16:46] <HumanCondition> hjack76: that is a non-standard resolution afaik. how big is this tv ? might just not be a good resolution to use. common ones are. 1366x768 (16:9) or obviously 1920x1080 (16:9
[16:46] <Transisto> I am trying to resize a windows but every time it take 30 sec to move the mouse on the one pixel of the border ?   Can't be like that by default, Should I reinstall ?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> acidrain: I suggest you ask better questions in future, it will get you help faster
[16:46] <urlin2u> unless*
[16:46] <edheldil> acidrain:  use gzip + encryption
[16:46] <Stereocaulon> acidrain, are you sure you mean encryption, not compression?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Transisto: if you havent changed any settings regarding the issue, how would a reinstall help?
[16:47] <rhin0> i click on "click to install (fallback)" it says there isn't a package called gnome-session-fallback in your current software sources
[16:47] <hjack76> HumanCondition, it's 42'', actually 1366x768 renders everything too big, while in 1080p everything is just too small
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-session-fallback
[16:47] <urlin2u> Raffff, you can make a account as well that uses a pass to get in but has no sudo.
[16:47] <acidrain> Stereocaulon: well im just looking for anything.
[16:47] <rhin0> how do I enable universe in unity
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you need the universe repo enabling
[16:47] <rhin0> well how
[16:48] <rhin0> im in unity
[16:48] <urlin2u> rhin0, in softwrae sources
[16:48] <rhin0> no idea sorry - trying to get to gnome
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: same as i the other releases, use software centre
[16:48] <gence> Hi, I install Ubuntu alternate from a USB stick drive, when I run a default installation - "CDROM drive is not found." message is shown, I can edit a kernel boot OPTIONS - But what OPTION to change?
[16:48] <urlin2u> software
[16:48] <HumanCondition> hjack76: change the dpi and use 1080p
[16:48] <Stereocaulon> acidrain, That is not exactly specific.
[16:48] <Transisto> I am trying to resize a windows but every time it take me ~30 sec to move the mouse on the correct pixel on the border.  Is it like that by default? Should I reinstall ?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: unity is a shell for gnome
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you are running gnome NOW
[16:48] <compdoc> Transisto, I have problems with that too
[16:48] <rhin0> yes ..... how do I turn universe repository on in unity
[16:48] <rhin0> I have no menus "sofware sources"
[16:48] <rhin0> how do I get anywhere without menus
[16:49] <hjack76> HumanCondition, that's a ridiculously obvious thing that i haven't tried yet... ty lol
[16:49] <Stereocaulon> Transisto, sounds like you are a little short on memory for the environment you are trying to run
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: in the top bar with software centre active is the menus, click on those
[16:49] <urlin2u> rhin0, top button of unity left panel gives you a serach
[16:49] <HumanCondition> np. thats what I had to do on my LG 37" hdtv. had same problem as you said when trying to see things from my couch LOl.
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you have the menus
[16:49] <usuario_> i
[16:50] <Transisto> I'm short on memory ? just no 3d acceleration
[16:50] <usuario_> ola
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: just because you don't know where something is doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[16:50] <usuario_> quienezs soys?¿
[16:50] <usuario_> juyfygfghjkñ+
[16:50] <usuario_> çhgfdsdfgjkñip
[16:50] <usuario_> ñ
[16:50] <usuario_> l
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[16:50] <FloodBot1> usuario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, it's not HUD yet. :)
[16:50] <Stereocaulon> Transisto, and no, waiting 30 seconds for a resize cursor is not normal
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> urlin2u: Ive no interest in HUG or Unity for that matter :)
[16:51] <urlin2u> ActionParsnip, I'm pretty generic about all the de's they work just need to know how.
[16:51] <rhin0> i will feel better when I get gnome classic view back
[16:51] <urlin2u> :D
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  you can select it in lightdm
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: I'd just install xfce and have an easier time
[16:52] <rhin0> you mean xfce on ubuntu 11.10?
[16:52] <rhin0> or 11.04?
[16:52] <usuario_> fghjklñ
[16:52] <rhin0> howto please
[16:52] <usuario_> hjkl
[16:52] <usuario_> ghjk
[16:52] <usuario_> çvgbhjkl
[16:52] <usuario_> l
[16:52] <usuario_> k
[16:52] <FloodBot1> usuario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> !es| usuario_
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: either
[16:53] <Stereocaulon> rhin0, please bear in mind that the ¨classic¨ gnome environment is not complete in ubuntu 11.10. As alternatives you can opt for XFCE or LXDE (a bit more Spartan than XFCE, but lightning quick)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[16:53] <acidrain> Stereocaulon: pm
[16:53] <rhin0> how would I install LXDE
[16:53] <gence> Please, what OPTION I NEED to change... Question is in the ^!
[16:53] <nc_> Hi!
[16:53] <theadmin> rhin0: sudo apt-get install lxde
[16:53] <rhin0> i know lxde lxde = lubuntu
[16:53] <gence> Hi, I install Ubuntu alternate from a USB stick drive, when I run a default installation - "CDROM drive is not found." message is shown, I can edit a kernel boot OPTIONS - But what OPTION to change?
[16:53] <rhin0> then just reboot and its an option in the menu thing
[16:53] <novid> ‎hello all
[16:53] <akem> hey
[16:54] <akem> anyone tried Future Pinball with PlayOnLinux recently?
[16:54] <novid> ‎i cant open repository  from synaptic
[16:54] <urlin2u> gence, how did you load the usb, it is that you can't install?
[16:54] <gence> urlin2u: Yes!
[16:54] <novid> ‎i get this error http://pastebin.com/iRnZeMMN
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: no. LXDE == LXDE, Lubuntu == Ubuntu + LXDE
[16:54] <urlin2u> gence, how did you load the usb a thmb drive right?
[16:55] <urlin2u> thumb*
[16:55] <nc_> I was just wondering, if I were to ssh to a machine in my network from a machine outside my network (i have a static ip adress) would i then "ssh user@my.static.ip.adress"? I mean if I check my ip adress online all the computers have the same one :o (Sorry for being a noob)
[16:55] <theadmin> nc_: You need to set port forwarding on your router.
[16:55] <gence> urlin2u: For loading a USB stick, I need to tell kernel abount having a dist files on the USB?
[16:55] <theadmin> nc_: Or even DMZ, if you prefer.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> nc_: you will need to configure port forwarding on the router to push the request on the WAN IP to the internal IP ofthe system itself
[16:56] <urlin2u> gence, no a loader does all of that try reloading with unetbootin.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> nc_: you can connect to all your PCs if you want, you just need a different port for each system. Or you can just use one and use it to access the others (more secure)
[16:56] <Raffff> urlin2u: but I am not using the Guest  account
[16:57] <gence> urlin2u: I find an "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" - it is not work for me, I not know why...
[16:57] <novid> ‎why i cant open  repository  from synaptic :(  http://pastebin.com/iRnZeMMN
[16:57] <nc_> theadmin, ActionParsnip: So if I open e.g. port 22 the computers will get their own adress and i will ssh into that?
[16:57] <urlin2u> Raffff, not sure then.
[16:57] <darki76545> Hello, i am looking for a tool to visualize file-system data blocks ("clusters") the way like common defrag tools (o&o) in windows do. i need that for a project. thanks for any answers! :)   didnt find something in synaptics
[16:57] <rhin0> ok trying unity -- how do I pin the bash prompt to the launcher
[16:57] <rhin0> how do I pin to launcher
[16:57] <rhin0> whats the launcher is that the bar on top of the screen?
[16:57] <theadmin> nc_: You need to forward port 22 to, say, 192.168.1.111:22, that way when you ssh into your public IP address you'll infact ssh into the computer the port is forwarded to.
[16:57] <urlin2u> gence, is it that you can't boot the stick?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  right click on the icon
[16:58] <arex\> is there a program/command for sorting a textfile on length?`
[16:58] <nc_> theadmin: Awesome thanks :)!
[16:58] <rhin0> ta
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you will need to make a .desktop launcher for it and then you can add it
[16:58] <arex\> i dont see anything in sort --help that'll sort on length
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  i'd suggest you try Unity for a while, to find out what everything is and does
[16:59] <rhin0> is it really better
[16:59] <rhin0> i've been having gpu problems
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: I suggest you put it in /usr/share/applications   and it will be findable from dash too :)
[16:59] <gence> urlin2u: Yes, MESSAGE FROM INSTALLER is "CDROM with installation files not found." - I use a USB!
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: is WHAT better, what is "it"?
[16:59] <theadmin> nc_: If you configure DMZ to 192.168.1.111 then all requests to your public IP will be forwarded to the computer on 192.168.1.111, if that's the right way for you
[17:00] <rhin0> unity
[17:00] <urlin2u> gence, I would just use a different loader to the usb like unetbootin reload the usb.
[17:00] <gence> I make an Installation USB stick with unetbootin tools...
[17:00] <nc_> theadmin: Let me get it straight, if i open port 22 and i ssh user1@240.25.21.684:22 i can do another to ssh user2@240.25.21.684:22?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  using Unity is the best way to learn it
[17:00] <urlin2u> gence, check the md5sum of the ISO then
[17:00] <theadmin> nc_: Sure, as long as the sshd setup allows that.
[17:00] <nc_> theadmin: the sshd setup? :o
[17:01] <rhin0> i typed term and I see the term icon -- I want that available from "launcher"
[17:01] <Stereocaulon> After the update from Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 I´m having trouble with the scim replacement ibus. The majority of programs show ¨No input screeen¨ whereas scim worked in *any* application. Dead keys don´t work anymore and I can´ t type any Japanese anymore, even though I do have both ibus and Anthy installed. Any hints how to fix this? The #ibus channel seems a bit dead.
[17:01] <rhin0> if I right click on it it just runs "term"
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: better is an opinion, so never concrete
[17:01] <urlin2u> gence, goota go others are here that will help, good luck. :D
[17:01] <theadmin> nc_: Well, uh, yeah... You need to configure an ssh server (for instance, sshd or whatever) to access your computer via SSH
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  please stop telling what you are doing all the time
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: what someone "loves" another will "hate"
[17:01] <gence> urist: Thanks!
[17:01] <rhin0> im being forced into this
[17:02] <Guest32572> can someone please help me out
[17:02] <gence> Thanks!
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you can drag from the search results to the bar
[17:02] <rhin0> ah
[17:02] <nc_> theadmin: ahh, okay i've got openssh configured :)
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you are NOT forced at all. I suggested you install XFCE ages again
[17:02] <rhin0> ok ok
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: ago
[17:02] <Guest32572> i did sudo ufw enable on my server and now i can ssh it
[17:02] <rhin0> no i am becoming convinced apologies
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: xfce does not run unity
[17:03] <nc_> theadmin: I mean vino, sorry
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: neither does KDE or LXDE or any of the other desktops or window managers
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  if you don't like unity, then don't use it
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: its like saying you are forced to use firefox
[17:03] <theadmin> rhin0: See, let me explain. Gnome2 is no longer officially developed or supported so Ubuntu can't use it. Their options are Gnome3 or Unity. They went with Unity because Gnome3's a mess. You can still use other destkops though. XFCE is almost identical to gnome2, so I suggest you try it.
[17:03] <flintwingel> Guest32572: did you keep a seesion open to it? Do you have another way in to it (can you get to the console)?
[17:04] <theadmin> nc_: Oh, that. You'd need to forward whatever the VNC porn is then
[17:04] <theadmin> ...
[17:04] <theadmin> s/porn/port/
[17:04] <jr200747> so now i am in rescue mode tryng to fix the problem
[17:04] <theadmin> >.<
[17:04] <jpds> OK, alles ist Ordnung.
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: you can install ANY of the alternatives and use them. This is one of the key foundations of the OS you are using
[17:04] <nc_> theadmin: okay, thanks a lot. Gotta go, have a great day! :)
[17:04] <jr200747> flintwingel plaese read up
[17:04] <theadmin> nc_: Thanks. Hope you fix your problem.
[17:05] <rhin0> ok
[17:05] <nc_> theadmin: if not I'll be back tomorrow :p
[17:05] <ekaleido> is there a sysctl arg that will give me a view into bits/bytes in and out of a given nic?
[17:05] <darki76545> is there any tool to visualize data clusters / allocation units / whatever its called on linux fs's  or at least a clue what search terms i have to use to find such a utility.
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> ekaleido: ntop may do it
[17:06] <gence> How to run an existing Process from fg to bg?
[17:06] <flintwingel> missed th bit where you changed your nick...
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> gence: CTRL+Z then run:  bg   afair
[17:06] <jr200747> [12:03pm] Guest32572 (~ident@cpe-71-74-239-184.neo.res.rr.com) is now known as jr200747
[17:06] <dsg_> HI ALL! HELP PLEASE!
[17:06] <flintwingel> i see that now...
[17:07] <jr200747> lol
[17:07] <dsg_> How add nvidia in sistem panel how in Windows?
[17:07] <Stereocaulon> !ask | dsg_
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> dsg_: windows isn;t supported here
[17:07] <dsg_> how do it in Ubunt?
[17:07] <gence> ActionParsnip: Thank You!
[17:08] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: (s)he's not asking about Windows, (s)he's asking about an alternative to Nvidiacpl for Linux. AFAIK there is one, dunno what it's called though
[17:08] <dsg_> in windows i can but here no
[17:08] <dsg_> Help pLEASE!
[17:08] <theadmin> dsg_: Be patient
[17:08]  * theadmin wishes she could help, but she'
[17:08]  * theadmin wishes she could help, but she's an AMD/ATI user
[17:08] <theadmin> :P
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: the question did say windows....
[17:08] <Stereocaulon> !nvidia | dsg_
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: no idea what Nvidiacpl is tbh
[17:09] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Read carefully... "how in Windows", i.e. "as in Windows". Bad English, sure, but
[17:09] <jr200747> flintwingel any luck on helping me fix this problem of mine?
[17:09] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Nvidia Control Panel
[17:09] <dsg_> there are english :(
[17:09] <imgx64> I have a problem. "dig" isn't sending queries for AAAA records, even with the -6 flag (I checked with Wireshark), but "host ipv6.google.com" and "getent hosts ipv6.google.com" are both working properly. Is this a problem with dig or with my configuration?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: if someone said to you "how can I do x in windows", would you start giving Linux advise? Sound like a windows question doesn't it? ;)
[17:10] <flintwingel> jr200747:did you keep a seesion open to it? Do you have another way in to it (can you get to the console)?
[17:10] <dsg_> I not see my ask
[17:10] <Stereocaulon> dsg_, just run this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[17:10] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Nah, well, he didn't ask "how can I do x in Windows", he asked "how can I do x how in Windows", which is... I suspect my Russian knowledge is helping me out a bit too much here xD
[17:10] <dsg_> ш рфму ше
[17:10] <dsg_> i have it
[17:10] <theadmin> And yep, I was right
[17:10] <dsg_> how enable icon on panel?
[17:11] <theadmin> dsg_: Try #ubuntu-ru , you're hardly making any sense
[17:11] <rhin0> i jus tcan't figure ou twhy they abandoned gnome standard it was so solid
[17:11] <jr200747> flintwingel i closed the first ssh sesion and i am back loged into the server with ssh but i am in rescue mode
[17:11] <Stereocaulon> dsg_, it does not work that way, you´ ll have to run the program itself, you *can* put it on the Unity launcher of course.
[17:11] <dsg_> u not undestand?
[17:11] <theadmin> rhin0: It's the Gnome team which abandoned Gnome2. Gnome2 is no longer supported, and Gnome3 is horrible.
[17:11] <theadmin> rhin0: Not Ubuntu's fault.
[17:11] <flintwingel> jr200747: don't know what you mean by rescue mode
[17:12] <Stereocaulon> dsg_, I rather think it is the other way around...
[17:12] <dsg_> иге иуащку ш ыфц ше
[17:12] <rhin0> well thanks guys am still hanging in there
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> rhin0  Unity is a Canonical product, but gnome isnt
[17:12] <Stereocaulon> !ru | dsg_
[17:12] <citr-mint-745> ActionParsnip: I have the gnome3 shell running on ubuntu 11.10. When i use some KDE apps, the windows manager seems to crash, I can still use some things, but not adjust the windows sizes or switch bettween them. How do i restart "x" without restarting the computer
[17:12] <dsg_> How enable icon?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> rhin0: try a different DE is all I can advise
[17:13] <dsg_> Catalist have it
[17:13] <citr-mint-745> i saw somewere it was something like 'restart gdm' but i don't have gdm installed
[17:13] <citr-mint-745> at least i don't think i do
[17:13] <dsg_> Nvidia too have?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> citr-mint-745: ALT+K+PrintScreen AFAIK
[17:13] <Stereocaulon> dsg_, not possible.
[17:13] <theadmin> citr-mint-745: /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[17:13] <citr-mint-745> but that will restart the whole thing right
[17:13] <theadmin> Or what ActionParsnip said
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> dsg_: why would you want it, do you really change youor display that much?
[17:13] <dsg_> иге ш цщте ше
[17:13] <jr200747> flintwingel i am not a big user of ubuntu and this is what ovh offer me so i can try to fix my problem
[17:14] <theadmin> dsg_: Stop switching layouts.
[17:14] <imgx64> Ah, I solved my problem. The -6 flag of dig is for using IPv6 *transport*, not for querying for AAAA records. "dig ipv6.google.com AAAA" works.
[17:14] <jpds> dsg_: Erm, stop doing that
[17:14] <dsg_> апрвпвеп
[17:14] <citr-mint-745> oops that restarted the whole thing theadmin but that did get it back to normal
[17:14] <Stereocaulon> dsg_, typing Russian won´t make it clearer to us, this an English channel
[17:14] <citr-mint-745> I just lost what I was playing with, no biggy in this case
[17:14] <jpds> Stereocaulon: He's not talking Russian.
[17:14] <theadmin> Stereocaulon: (s)he's not even typing Russian. This is nonsense like "afaqkjfqfakfq", basically.
[17:15] <lupzz> I have a problem on a Intel i915 based laptop, xorg recognizes 1024x768 or 800x600.. but the screen native resolution is 1366x768... tried with the xrandr/cvt commands as described in X/Config/Resolution and even getting parameters from "sudo get-edid | parse-edid" but with no luck... any hint?
[17:15] <dsg_> my inglish bed?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> lupzz: you may need an xorg.conf file to make it play nice
[17:15] <dsg_> :(
[17:15] <jr200747> flintwingel can i pm you?
[17:15] <theadmin> dsg_: Yes. Please go to #ubuntu-ru and get support in Russian.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> dsg_: I asked you a question
[17:15] <dsg_> no
[17:15] <flintwingel> jr200747: ok
[17:15] <lupzz> ActionParsnip, I have to write by myself?
[17:16] <Stereocaulon> jpds, theadmin, thanks for clarifiying!
[17:16] <varikonniemi> i asked some time ago about how to do a single disk raid. HEre is the guide i found, thought i would share if it helps someone: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> lupzz: there are guides online, sometimes unky displays don't report their resolutions and such properly
[17:16] <theadmin> lupzz: Have you tried specifying "Driver 'intel'" in xorg.conf?
[17:16] <txdv2> join ubuntu channel, ask windows question
[17:16] <txdv2> o sry
[17:16] <Stereocaulon>  After the update from Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 I´m having trouble with the scim replacement ibus. The majority of programs show ¨No input screeen¨ whereas scim worked in *any* application. Dead keys don´t work anymore and I can´ t type any Japanese anymore, even though I do have both ibus and Anthy installed. Any hints how to fix this?
[17:16] <dsg_> куащкьшд
[17:16] <dsg_> ok
[17:16] <Stereocaulon> can someone kick dsg_ ?
[17:17] <lupzz> ActionParsnip, theadmin, I am not fluent in writing xorg.conf files.. :)
[17:17] <varikonniemi> the only thing missing from ubuntu is for the disk utility to understand it can give *missing* as the location for the second device
[17:17] <dsg_> i have dispaly yes
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> dsg_: 2nd time. I asked you a question
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> lupzz: nobody is born knowing either....
[17:17] <PTBD> hallo. if I want to use c/c++ plugin in eclipse what would you recommend how to install it? from software center or from eclipse itself?
[17:17] <lupzz> theadmin, btw in Xorg.0.log I see that it uses that driver
[17:18] <lupzz> ActionParsnip, OK I will put some effort in that :)
[17:18] <Stereocaulon> PTBD, better use the options within Eclipse.
[17:18] <lupzz> ActionParsnip, there is still some sudo dpkg-reconfigure that will "write" the xorg.conf file for me... I guess that there was a tool for that
[17:19] <PTBD> Stereocaulon, are there known problems? well I tryed it from the software center and it didn't work like on my other distribution
[17:19] <lupzz> in an ubuntu-K release there was such a thing..
[17:20] <darki76545> How to visualize data blocks / data allocation of a ext2 filesystem (used, free, locked, and so on).
[17:20] <Stereocaulon> PTBD, I wouldn´t know, I only develop Java in Eclipse, no other languages. If you set up the repositories in Eclipse correctly, it should be able to download the Eclipse specific parts.
[17:20] <PTBD> Stereocaulon, allright. thank you
[17:20] <Stereocaulon> PTBD, np :-)
[17:21] <PTBD> Stereocaulon, may I ask another question? ^^
[17:21] <Stereocaulon> PTBD, sure. If it has to do something with ubuntu, after all this is the ubuntu support channel.
[17:21] <PTBD> Stereocaulon, it's more about eclipse
[17:22] <Stereocaulon> PTBD, ok, but I think you will get more help on #eclipse. I am not a professional programmer. Just a student.
[17:23] <theadmin> lupzz: This is the basic idea: https://pzt.me/204y
[17:23] <PTBD> but kind of ubuntu too. anyways ... i installed open-jdk7 yesterday and alot of jdk6 packages came with it? is that normal? also after installing jdk7 und starting eclipse it tells me that I can't use jdk7 and I have to use jdk6
[17:24] <Stereocaulon> Can anyone help me to get ibus to function *properly* so that I can use the US-Int., w. deadkeys and enter text in Japanese using anthy?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> lupzz: that will give a skeleton file you can flesh out
[17:25] <Stereocaulon> PTBD, yes that´s normal.
[17:25] <PTBD> and that I can't use jdk7 in eclipse too?
[17:26] <Stereocaulon> PTBD, check if your version of Eclipse is jdk7-compatible
[17:26] <msh210> Hi, I'm running Firefox and came to a Web page with a Java applet; the browser suggested I install either IcedTea6 or Java Runtime Environment. Apparently (?), both are Java applet -running plugins. Can anyone recommend one of them over the other, and why?
[17:26] <PTBD> how do I do that? I mean I installed eclipse from the software center and was version 3.7.0
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> msh210  make sure you have open-jdk installed, not sun-jdk
[17:26] <theadmin> msh210: Icedtea is opensource, JRE is closed-source, otherwise they are similar.
[17:26] <xangua> msh210: openjdk comes in ubuntu repository, you can manually install oracle java from it's web
[17:27] <guest> HI
[17:27] <theadmin> xangua: False. Sun Java is in the Partner repo as well (or used to be)
[17:27] <xangua> theadmin: still¿¿ ok
[17:27] <crond> removed now
[17:27] <crond> Sun ended the licsense
[17:27] <crond> er Oracle
[17:27] <Stereocaulon> msh210, I´d go with the Java Runtime Environment if it´s an advanced app, IcedTea6 does not have all libs, specifically some 3d libs are missing
[17:27] <theadmin> crond: Okay, I see, thanks for the info -- I didn't know that.
[17:27] <msh210> MonkeyDust xangua : Am I to assume open-jdk is Icedtea6 and sun-jdk is Java Runtime Environment ?
[17:28] <msh210> theadmin: thanks.
[17:28] <msh210> Stereocaulon: thanks.
[17:28] <darki76545> :(
[17:30] <_cb> docs for a system says I should store fstab user  credentials in /etc/ but ubuntu server does not let me write anything, not even as root. Is there another folder I should use?
[17:31] <Stereocaulon> I´m going too eat now, lurking mode=ON
[17:32] <msh210> ok,thank you. HAND
[17:32] <msh210> (all)
[17:32] <Caifas> Hello guys, is there a mirroring tool you can recommend me?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> xangua: is your OS 32bit?
[17:32] <xangua> ActionParsnip: ¿¿
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Caifas: rsync can mirror files from one place to another
[17:33] <dougsko> Caifas: for mirroring web pages? wget
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> xangua: is your ubuntu install 32it?
[17:33] <xangua> ActionParsnip: yes, for¿
[17:33] <theadmin> Caifas: Mirroring *what* exactly, what do you want to acheive?
[17:33] <Caifas> i need to mirror my server so my backup can assume his place when the main server fail :D
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> xangua: for the kernel? If you have a 32bit kernel I can give a script to install 32bit Java 1.7_02
[17:33] <heisemink> does gparted move files when resizing a partition or is there potential for data loss?
[17:34] <theadmin> xangua: Please use Unicode, your messages have weird, unreadable symbols and that makes it confusing for some of us.
[17:34] <xangua> ActionParsnip: ok...i don't care; i am not the one that asked
[17:34] <dougsko> Caifas: there's dump/restore, dd, rsync, etc
[17:34] <theadmin> heisemink: There is potential for data loss if, say, there is a power surge, or the hard drive is physically damaged. Otherwise you're pretty safe.
[17:34] <dougsko> Caifas: even just tar works great
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> heisemink: there is always a potential for data loss, be sure your backups are sufficiently recent.
[17:34] <iceroot> heisemink: its always a good idea to have a backup
[17:35] <heisemink> theadmin, it's a laptop with fully charged battery and a healthy hard drive. Just to be sure, do you mean it will move the files?
[17:35] <rabbi1> is GTK record best available for screen recording (A/V) ?
[17:35] <opalepatrick> anyone know an irc channel for css related stuff?
[17:35] <iceroot> heisemink: not only when resizing a partition
[17:35] <theadmin> heisemink: It will move the content, yes.
[17:35] <iceroot> !alis | opalepatrick
[17:35] <Caifas> dougsko: yes, but they took time, I'm looking for something with less downtime
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: there is no single best app for anything
[17:35] <dougsko> Caifas: copying files requires no downtime at all
[17:35] <opalepatrick> thanks iceroot
[17:35] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: I have heard this many a time, i have no idea why i ask this question again and again :) chill
[17:36] <Shizuo16> Hello ubunto community
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: badly worded question
[17:36] <RyuGuns> What's good open source sandbox software for linux?
[17:36] <Shizuo16> Some one know how can i solve BusyBox problem
[17:36] <theadmin> RyuGuns: None really decent around. Try Jailkit I guess.
[17:36] <Shizuo16> can't start my ubuntu always same problem busybox v1.8 ...
[17:37] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: except for editors of course :)
[17:37] <theadmin> Shizuo16: That's not the problem. The problem is the error before you are dropped to busybox.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: there is also http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/help-test-new-screen-recording-app-eidete/
[17:37] <theadmin> RyuGuns: https://launchpad.net/~jailkit/+archive/ppa - try it, it's the only one I really found
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: ahhahha
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: try a few, see what you like and use that
[17:38] <Shizuo16> theadmin: what do you mean !!? when i try to start my pc i saw black screen writin busybox v1.8 ....(ash)
[17:38] <theadmin> Shizuo16: Yes. What's the error BEFORE the busybox prompt?
[17:38] <Shizuo16> theadmin: wait  1 sec
[17:42] <Shizuo16> theadmin: there are ntg befor busybox v1.18.4 (ubuntu...) built in ash
[17:42] <Shizuo16> theadmin: there are ntg befor busybox v1.18.4 (ubuntu...) built-in shell ( ash)
[17:42] <Shizuo16> theadmin: entre help  for a list of built in command
[17:44] <yoav> hi everyone
[17:45] <lelouch> theadmin: busybox v1.18.4 (ubuntu...) built-in shell (ash)
[17:45] <theadmin> lelouch: Before that.
[17:45] <hexacode> anyone here familiar with svn server?  i imported a folder called nachos with 3 subdirectories within it called tags branches and trunks. however, after i imported it to testrepo/  i now have branches/ trunks/ and tags/ within testrepo, and then within trunk, i have my nachos folder/ with the 3 subdirectories mentioned earlier...i want to know where the other tags branches and trunks folder came from
[17:45] <lelouch> theadmin: ther is nothing befor that
[17:45] <theadmin> lelouch: err...
[17:45] <yoav> can someone see what i;m writing?
[17:45] <yoav> i'm
[17:46] <lelouch> theadmin: enter help to built-in command
[17:46] <antonio_> Hey guys, I have a question regarding folder permissions on Ubuntu.  I encountered a permissions error with a PHP app that I have running on my server.  When I went in to take a look at the permissions for that folder, I saw a 'T' in the 'Other' grouping in place of where the x or - would normally be, what does that mean?
[17:46] <theadmin> antonio_: Sticky
[17:46] <lelouch> theadmin: then  (inintramfs)  /// there are nothing lese in the screen
[17:47] <antonio_> theadmin:  would that have potentially messed up my app?
[17:47] <theadmin> antonio_: Don't think so
[17:48] <lelouch> theadmin: any idea mr theadmin ?
[17:48] <theadmin> lelouch: No, sorry
[17:51] <ninjai> Question: If I do a dist upgrade and it says "mysql-server-5.0" is being removed, am I going to lose my databases too or will I still have my databases?
[17:51] <ikonia> ninjai: your database should be kept in a seperate directory
[17:51] <ninjai> ok thanks
[17:51] <theadmin> ninjai: Configs and user-created data are never touched nor removed by APT
[17:52] <ikonia> ninjai: your my.cnf file shows where they are, take a backup if you need %100 confidence
[17:52] <ninjai> ikonia, where is my.cnf?
[17:53] <BlueEagle> ninjai: /etc/mysql/my.cnf perhaps?
[17:54] <staff_nowa> hello, how i can get information what my pc share to other people in LAN?
[17:54] <andai> Is it possible to install different operating systems on a hardware raid setup?
[17:54] <theadmin> staff_nowa: If you haven't configured anything, nothing is shared
[17:54] <andai> I once read it isn't, but that was a while ago
[17:54] <ikonia> andai: not really an ubuntu issue ?
[17:55] <andai> ikonia: Well, I want to install ubuntu on this machine, but i have a suspicion it will destroy the windows install completely.
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> staff_nowa: smbtree     will show your samba shares
[17:55] <theadmin> andai: It is possible, but I have no idea how or why would you ever want multiple OSes :D
 i just installed samba and sometimes when go some there with laptop don't switch shared files
[17:55] <andai> ikonia: Which wouldn't bother me, but it's not my computer
 thank you
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> andai: it will be fine, installing WIndows to only a portion of the space is a good idea
[17:55] <ikonia> andai: it won't destroy a windows install unless you tell it to
[17:55] <andai> theadmin: The owner was angry enough when I replaced his sad antivirus with a decent one
[17:56] <theadmin> andai: Check the installer, if it gets confusing write back, it can't be too hard :D
[17:56] <puchaty> really guys are you working on 3.0 kernel?^^
[17:56] <puchaty> y not in here :P
[17:56] <puchaty> wrong channel ;d
[17:56] <andai> ActionParsnip, Ikonia: Are there any special steps to take when resizing the windows partition on a RAID setup, or will GParted treat it as a single, large partition? ( RAID 0 btw )
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> puchaty: 3.2.0.10 here
[17:56] <theadmin> puchaty: I myself am using 3.2 already :P
[17:56] <lagbox> hello all
[17:56] <theadmin> 3.2.1, even
[17:56] <ikonia> puchaty: ubuntu ships with a 3.x kernel
[17:56] <puchaty> wrong channel :P
[17:56] <puchaty> as i said :D
[17:57] <ikonia> puchaty: so what are you talking about then ?
[17:57] <lagbox> any reason on 11.04 im getting dependency problems trying to install gimp ? seems py-gtk isnt correct
[17:57] <stamina> is there some pc better than the intel one for linux  ?
[17:57] <puchaty> i should send my question to hp touchpad channel :P
[17:57] <ikonia> lagbox: got any PPA's running
[17:57] <andai> ActionParsnip, Ikonia: Also installing Ubuntu to a hardware raid (setup in bios) works as normal?
[17:57] <ikonia> stianhj: any x86 setup is fine
[17:57] <Jake2> Is there a utility to wipe FREE SPACE ONLY for ubuntu?
[17:58] <theadmin> Jake2: Bleachbit will wipe free space, just unmark other things.
[17:58] <lagbox> ikonia, they are disabled
[17:58] <Jake2> theadmin: thx
[17:58] <lagbox> i just did an upgrade last night and it disabled them
[17:58] <stamina> like a GNU pc
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Jake2: how do you mean 'wipe'?
[17:58] <ikonia> lagbox: they have probably messed up your dependencies though
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[17:58] <ikonia> stianhj: any x86 platform is fine
[17:59] <rostayob> I've installed xfonts-terminus but terminus doesn't show up in xfontselect
[17:59] <lagbox> ikonia, anyway to force it to fix the dependencies ... because the software using the ppa's was removed before the upgrade
[17:59] <ikonia> lagbox: no
[17:59] <stamina> no something you cant read uuid and other super power command
[17:59] <ikonia> lagbox: you have to do it all manually
[17:59] <lagbox> sweet
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: could try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[18:00] <theadmin> Does Ubuntu still have any support for ARMv6 left, by the way?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> !arm
[18:01] <ikonia> theadmin: don't think so, not %100
[18:01] <ikonia> theadmin: maybe the arm project may have a bit more factual details
[18:01] <lagbox> this should be fun
[18:01] <theadmin> ikonia: I see, thanks, I'm aware it ain't going to be 100% supported.
[18:02] <lagbox> pretty much it is telling me .. blah blah blah .... but higher version than in sources is to be installed
[18:02] <ikonia> lagbox: yes, as I told you
[18:02] <ikonia> lagbox: your PPA's will have pulled down conflicting dependencies
[18:02] <ikonia> lagbox: it is very common with PPA maintainers who are not putting any thought into base product compatability
[18:03] <ikonia> lagbox: it's one of the main reasons PPA's are not supported or recommended
[18:03] <theadmin> Use PPAs = prepare for breakage.
[18:04] <theadmin> Hint from personal experience, too: *never* use kernels or drivers from ppas, evil idea >.<
[18:04] <lagbox> ikonia, i understand ... how do i remove all packages from that ppa then
[18:06] <ikonia> lagbox: manually investigate and remove conflicts
[18:06] <tty01>  anyone knows if traceroute shows outbound NAT'd ip? if so which line?
[18:07] <Bisu[Shield]> why is the swapmemory and memory in ubuntu the same size?
[18:07] <drupalcentric> if anyone's looking for a decently priced VPS hosting service with guaranteed resources that supports the latest versions of Ubuntu, including 11.10, please check out http://www.drupalcentric.com/vps-plans/ - Thank you.
[18:07] <Bisu[Shield]> i would think swap memory can me any size limited to the size of disk
[18:07] <drupalcentric> and if you have any questions, we have life chat on the website
[18:07] <lagbox> bisu .. what
[18:07] <Bisu[Shield]> adjusting for latency using swap memory
[18:08] <theadmin> drupalcentric: Offtopic here, also considered spam. Careful, you might get banned :P
[18:08] <lagbox> Bish, how much physical memory do you have ?
[18:08] <Pumpkin-> traceroute shows you whatever address the router spat out the TTLexceeded ICMP message decided to use. Sadly it will be pretty useless for what you want.
[18:08] <Bisu[Shield]> my disk is 600Gb
[18:08] <theadmin> Bisu[Shield]: swap memory equals the size of your swap partition, that's all
[18:08] <lagbox> ram
[18:09] <Bisu[Shield]> I understand that, can i increase the size of that partition and is that recommended?
[18:09] <HumanCondition> you don't even need swap
[18:09] <lagbox> Bisu[Shield], if you want to ... but swap doesn't get used as much as you think
[18:09] <theadmin> Bisu[Shield]: You can, with gparted or something probably. The recommended size for swap is the size of ram multiplied by 2.
[18:09] <theadmin> (although that's an ages-old recommendation)
[18:09] <HumanCondition> maybe if you have 1gb of ram you need swap. but otherwise no.
[18:10] <lagbox> i match my swap to my ram ... but not for reasons that have anything to do with normal operations
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> HumanCondition: depends on what the system is to be used for
[18:10] <theadmin> HumanCondition: You need swap to hibernate.
[18:10] <bobo37773> Bisu[Shield]: swap memory is needed (equal size as regular ram) so that you can use hibernation.
[18:10] <HumanCondition> ok. so if you are not hibernating you don't need swap
[18:10] <HumanCondition> sry.
[18:10] <lagbox> thats what i use it for
[18:10] <theadmin> HumanCondition: You need it if you're low on RAM, also Firefox won't run without a swap partition (or is that fixed now?)
[18:10] <bobo37773> HumanCondition: It depends. You don't want to run out of ram either.
[18:11] <HumanCondition> heh
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> HumanCondition: if you use only web browsing and word processing you can probably get away with it. Games will easily fill 1Gb RAM
[18:11] <HumanCondition> well who plays games on LINUX anyway lol.
[18:11] <theadmin> HumanCondition: I do -_- There are tons of good ones
[18:11] <HumanCondition> like what? lol
[18:11] <bobo37773> HumanCondition: I play games on linux.
[18:11] <HumanCondition> tux racer hahahah
[18:11] <lagbox> i play starcraft on linux ... i don't have any partitions for windows ... ever
[18:11] <theadmin> HumanCondition: SpaceChem, UrbanTerror, Alien Arena, Nexuiz... Check them out really...
[18:12] <bobo37773> HumanCondition: What about wine?
[18:12] <HumanCondition> I would NEVER use wine anyway
[18:12] <lagbox> hey bobo37773
[18:12] <bobo37773> lagbox: No partition here either
[18:12] <mBison> how do i play starcraft on linux, plz
[18:12] <lagbox> HumanCondition, your loss
[18:12] <theadmin> !wine | mBison
[18:12] <HumanCondition>  any new game isn't gonna run on wine anyway
[18:12] <lagbox> mBison, wine
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | mBison
[18:12] <lagbox> HumanCondition, not correct
[18:12] <HumanCondition> it won't run good anyway
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> mBison: not all apps run, the appdb will tell you
[18:12] <HumanCondition> unless it's some 2d game
[18:12] <lagbox> also not correct ... but it is common to have problems with them
[18:13] <HumanCondition> no, I am correct
[18:13] <theadmin> HumanCondition: False, false and false. I can play even Portal 2 on WINE and it runs fine. Most source games do actually... You have no idea what you're talking about.
[18:13] <bobo37773> HumanCondition: I have found that a lot of games get better frames per second in wine as opposed to windows
[18:13] <Bach0> is anyone using wubi with windows 7? I installed wubi but upon restart no OS selection comes up. Tried editing boot entries with EasyBCD that doesnt help either. under msconfig it only shows windows entry.
[18:13] <HumanCondition> bobo37773: are you smoking meth ?
[18:13] <mBison> can i runn goldwave
[18:13] <mBison> i need a linux goldwave repalcement
[18:13] <lagbox> HumanCondition, your personal experience doesn't encompass every persons
[18:13] <theadmin> HumanCondition: Either way, you're getting offtopic. Wine is not supported here.
[18:13] <HumanCondition> and needing swap for anything but hibernation is a fallacy
[18:13] <theadmin> lagbox: Same to you.
[18:14] <HumanCondition> never used a swap. never ran out of ram or crashed. in 10+ years of ubuntu/gentoo
[18:14] <theadmin> mBison: You can probably run goldwave in WINE, but you might find an alternative.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> HumanCondition: counterstrike and doom3 are 2 such games pulling better fps than windows, even under wine
[18:14] <mBison> i have oracle vm box it runs great
[18:14] <bobo37773> HumanCondition: What? I guess you will never know. The only real problem right now is audio issues
[18:14] <mBison> i wont to get rid of my windows partition now
[18:15] <mBison> i mean i want to
[18:15] <HumanCondition> I don't want to play games through an emulation layer. period. but like you said thats my experience. that also they don't work properly. if they even install at all.
[18:15] <lagbox> theadmin, thanks for the obvious remark ... i wasn't generalizing every single persons experience into a single statement
[18:15] <theadmin> HumanCondition: Wine got pretty good actually, but Linux's got a ton of awesome native games as well. But again, this is a support channel
[18:15] <Gilialb> ciao
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> HumanCondition: wine isnt an emulator
[18:16] <mBison> i only keep m windows partition for goldwave and counter-strike 1.6, can these be runned under wine
[18:16] <Gilialb> !list
[18:16] <mneptok> "do most modern Windows games work well in WINE" is sufficiently vague to be offtopic in a support channel. so let's let it go.
[18:16] <theadmin> mBison: Yes.
[18:16] <bobo37773> mBison: Go for it
[18:16] <HumanCondition> the answer is that they do not work properly.
[18:16] <HumanCondition> *most*
[18:16] <HumanCondition> maybe 2-3 actually work better. but I'd doubt it
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> HumanCondition: most is true, it can work well. Depends entirely on title
[18:17] <mneptok> let. it. go.
[18:17] <theadmin> Hey, guys, guys, stop the offtopic discussion will you
[18:17] <HumanCondition> lmao.
[18:17] <soa2ii> Hi. I got ubuntu hardy as a ldap client running. Now I installed 11.10 and copied the common-* files in pam.d from my hardy installtion. I keep getting pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user "uid=krause,ou=Users,dc=ls7,dc=cs,dc=tu-dortmund,dc=de" (Invalid credentials) on the new installtion. Suggestions why?
[18:17] <theadmin> We're not letting people solve problems
[18:17] <mBison> what about running them apps in oracle VM
[18:17] <HumanCondition> have fun with tux racer :-D
[18:17] <mneptok> HumanCondition: have fun in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:18] <HumanCondition> thats ok. i'm done mr. channel op I'll ban you if I feel like it man.
[18:18] <cordyceps> Lubuntu-11.10 here. I'm trying to install apcupsd but I do $sudo apt-get install apcupsd keep getting E: unable to locate pkg.
[18:18] <mneptok> *sigh*
[18:19] <cordyceps> Not in synaptic either
[18:19] <HumanCondition> yea sigh cause all you guys ever do is ban people who disagree with you.
[18:19] <theadmin> HumanCondition: We ban those who disagree with the rules. STOP. Seriously.
[18:19] <mneptok> HumanCondition: i never referenced op status. i never threatened to ban you. and here you are.
[18:19] <lagbox> cordyceps, apt-cache search apcup
[18:20] <mneptok> HumanCondition: push the issue, and i might regret not acting as you claim ops do.
[18:20] <HumanCondition> I usually just idle here. and occasionally help people. but I always see people get banned for having an opinion. what is this channel fascist germany ?
[18:20] <cordyceps> lagbox: nothing
[18:20] <lagbox> cordyceps, or cupsd .... i don't know what changes have been made in 11.10
[18:20] <farrukhjon> hi all!
[18:20] <theadmin> HumanCondition: See, we're not a channel for expressing opinions, we're for support :P
[18:20] <_B00> No HumanCondition ... that would be the USA ;-)
[18:20] <bobo37773> farrukhjon: Hey
[18:20] <lagbox> _B00 ... :)
[18:20] <theadmin> HumanCondition: So I guess you could say it's fascist... Africa? Ubuntu's an african distro
[18:20] <mneptok> HumanCondition: you're now past Godwin. and that's really pushing.
[18:21] <HumanCondition> Godwin ?
[18:21] <iceroot> HumanCondition: stop flaming germany
[18:21] <HumanCondition> im not. I was referring to when it *was* fascist
[18:21] <HumanCondition> remember. ?
[18:21] <iceroot> HumanCondition: just stop it
[18:21] <lagbox> HumanCondition, your kind of stretching a bit here ... i would drop it ... we appreciate you helping those that need help ... and i enjoy opinions but it is not my rules
[18:22] <theadmin> Wow. A huge mess because of one troll...
[18:22] <jnsl_> so im trying to start a gnome3 session on xubuntu, but unity just takes over... any suggestions ?
[18:22] <HumanCondition> im not a troll
[18:22] <HumanCondition> first of all.
[18:22] <theadmin> HumanCondition: Read the IRC Guidelines, please, and you might understand our behaviour here. We have very strict set of rules to be followed by all channel members.
[18:22] <farrukhjon> who encountered with the creation of video lessons? recommend me program
[18:22] <dleonardi> first of all, it was nazi germany and fascist italy. get your facts right if you want to be an idiot.
[18:22] <mBison> do i need an anti-virus in ubuntu 11.10?
[18:23] <lagbox> jnsl_  does xubuntu give you the regular gdm login screen ?
[18:23] <theadmin> mBison: No.
[18:23] <dleonardi> next: shut the fuck up
[18:23] <iceroot> mBison: no
[18:23] <jnsl_> lagbox yes
[18:23] <pangolin> !language | dleonardi
[18:23] <bobo37773> He is a windows sympathizer . String him up hahaha
[18:23] <lagbox> mBison, i suppose if you want to protect windows users that you might be sending files too, but you will be fine without it
[18:23] <iceroot> !virus | mBison
[18:23] <HumanCondition> so he can use foul language and no one cares.
[18:23] <dariebi> hi all, can somebody tell me the command to deinstall kubuntu-desktop?
[18:23] <lagbox> jnsl_, can you change the session ? ubuntu classic or something like that
[18:23] <cordyceps> lagbox: nothing like apcupsd in there. Strange, when I google ubuntu and apcupsd, I get a zillion hits that say 'apt-get install apcupsd.
[18:23] <HumanCondition> but I can't have an opinion
[18:23] <iceroot> HumanCondition: just stop it
[18:23] <theadmin> dariebi: sudo tasksel remove kubuntu-desktop
[18:23] <lagbox> cordyceps, nothing for cups ?
[18:24] <dariebi> thank you very much!
[18:24] <theadmin> HumanCondition: Yes, you can't. We don't support opinions, they aren't an Ubuntu problem. Clear with that?
[18:24] <iceroot> HumanCondition: this channel is for support, not for (stupid) opinions
[18:24] <cordyceps> lots for cups but this is for a printer
[18:24] <MK14> anyone know why unzip would be trying to symlink to what seems like the target file's contents?
[18:24] <jnsl_> lagbox yes i have that option if i remember correct
[18:24] <pangolin> HumanCondition: this channel is for Ubuntu support. Please take discussion to a more appropriate channel.
[18:24] <ikonia> MK14: possibly was it linked when it was zipped ??
[18:24] <Mito_> hi
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> MK14: tried unp?
[18:24] <HumanCondition> I have nothing else to say
[18:24] <cordyceps> uninterruptible power supply
[18:24] <dleonardi> and to set an example: i apologize for my foul language. now apologize so we can all move on with life.
[18:24] <farrukhjon> is there under Linux app like HIpercam ?
[18:25] <lagbox> jnsl_, i don't know if that is what you are looking for but it should stop unity from running
[18:25] <cordyceps> edit is *not for a printer
[18:25] <jnsl_> ok thanks ill try that
[18:25] <theadmin> farrukhjon: Saying what it does is more likely to help you :D
[18:25] <MK14> ikonia: i am not sure about how it was created
[18:25] <gunfire> how to configure bluetooth device ?
[18:25] <dariebi> iam sorry but the command didnt work
[18:25] <MK14> ActionParsnip: will try
[18:25] <mBison> i love my linux, i just want to make sure wheni delete windows partition, that i am still fucntinging app wise,
[18:25] <bobo37773> farrukhjon: what is hipercam/
[18:25] <ikonia> MK14: that's one reason I can think of
[18:25] <Mito_> I got a problem with mencoder... If I try to convert an ogv to avi, in final movie I got black square...
[18:25] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, can you pls guide me in configuring a bluetooth device ?
[18:25] <lagbox> cordyceps, ah ... u p c
[18:25] <bobo37773> Mito_: Have you tried ffmpeg directly?
[18:25] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, Pleae explain the function of HIpercam, so that we can look up if there is an alternative.
[18:25] <Stereocaulon> lurking mode=OFF
[18:26] <MK14> ikonia: it handles another symlink just fine
[18:26] <farrukhjon> bobo37773:  tool for creating video tutorial
[18:26] <bobo37773> farrukhjon: You mean a screencast of your desktop?
[18:26] <ikonia> MK14: that's the only reason I can think of off the top of my head
[18:26] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, yes, there is.
[18:26] <farrukhjon> bobo37773: yes
[18:26] <MK14> ikonia: on the second it seems to try to create a symlink using the target's content as the path to the target
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: I have no experiece of bluetooth, its too slow
[18:26] <Mito_> No bobo37773... I use mencoder... It's weird error on lubuntu...
[18:26] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, try Istanbul, for instance
[18:27] <farrukhjon> Stereocaulon:  is it show mouse cliking ?
[18:27] <Mito_> But I don't understand if it depends about lxde...
[18:27] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: thank you, was on an emergency call :)
[18:27] <gunfire> ActionParsnip,  i just want to learn :P
[18:27] <gunfire> :D
[18:27] <bobo37773> farrukhjon: There are actually quite a few. Off the top of my head     recordmydesktop, kazaam, ffmpeg       I personally prefer gtk-recordmydesktop. It is pretty easy to use.
[18:27] <mBison> is there a goldwave version or equivalent in linux?
[18:28] <bobo37773> mBison: What does it do?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> mBison: what does it do?
[18:28] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, ya agree it's very outdated and slow tech
[18:28] <bobo37773> ActionParsnip: hahaha
[18:28] <mneptok> mBison: Audacity
[18:28] <theadmin> mBison: What's the purpose of Goldwave, apart from 42?
[18:28] <lagbox> audio editor
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: all my systems are on wifi, so ifI transfer stuff to my mobile devices, I use wifi
[18:28] <mBison> edit audio files
[18:28] <SixtyFold> i keep getting an error when trying to do updates on a fresh install of 11.10, both 32 or 64 bit, Requires Installation of Untrusted pacakages  libgdata-common libgdata13? anyone know why I am getting this?
[18:28] <_B00> "There is build in desktop video recording tool/screen recording tool inside of Gnome shell, you can easily capture desktop activity by pressing shortcut ctrl+shift+alt+r , after pressing ctrl+shift+alt+r  you will see such notification in the bottom right corner of your desktop, when you see the notification, Gnome will start record your desktop"
[18:28] <mBison> slow down tempo
[18:28] <theadmin> mBison: Audacity can do that.
[18:28] <_B00> Hope that's what you mean
[18:28] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, let me chceck that for you, running Istanbul now.
[18:28] <mBison> ok thanks
[18:29] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, even i have wifi here but due to curosity i just wanted to give a shot...!!
[18:29] <farrukhjon> Stereocaulon:  thank you
[18:29] <theadmin> _B00: Ubuntu doesn't use gnome-shell by default
[18:29] <SixtyFold> i cant find an answer to the problem with google, closest answer i found was condescending abou how the person had fubarred their installation, well, these are FRESH installs
[18:29] <_B00> Ah. So only for gnome3?
[18:29] <ikonia> SixtyFold: what is your question
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: as I clearly stated, I don't use it....never have
[18:29] <_B00> Sorry, gnome shell I mean
[18:30] <SixtyFold> my question was: i keep getting an error when trying to do updates on a fresh install of 11.10, both 32 or 64 bit, Requires Installation of Untrusted pacakages  libgdata-common libgdata13? anyone know why I am getting this?
[18:30] <theadmin> _B00: Well, yes, as the quote states
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: so how can I tell you whatI don't know
[18:30] <farrukhjon> Stereocaulon:  how about RecordMyDesktop now i reading about it
[18:30] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, Yes, it does record the mouse pointer.
[18:30] <ikonia> SixtyFold: do you have any PPA's or 3rd party repos enabled ?
[18:30] <_B00> Thanks for the heads up
[18:30] <ikonia> SixtyFold: or even in place let alone enabled
[18:30] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, I don´ t know, I´ ve never used that program
[18:30] <dariebi> how can i clean the system to first install?
[18:30] <SixtyFold> not that im aware of, i didnt pick any, except on start of install i picked the frauhalor(sp) mp3 thing
[18:31] <lagbox> dariebi, ??
[18:31] <farrukhjon> Stereocaulon: be kind, check sound
[18:31] <ikonia> SixtyFold: can you do "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the output please.
[18:31] <SixtyFold> yes, one second
[18:31] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, no prob :)
[18:31] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, Istanbul can also record sound
[18:31] <lagbox> dariebi, are you asking how to get the system to match a state consistent with a clean install ?
[18:32] <dariebi> lagbox: yes
[18:32] <mBison> theadmin: Wow you really must be a linux person, u dont know what goldwave is? im trying to get to your level!
[18:32] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, can you  tell me about some good guide if i want to install a application from a source code ? for that which steps i have to follow ??
[18:32] <Si2100> Guys, am having issues trying to install xbmc...
[18:32] <farrukhjon> Stereocaulon: great i now try it
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> mBison: I have no idea either...
[18:32] <lagbox> gunfire, the code will have a readme in it usually
[18:32] <theadmin> mBison: I can't know about every piece of software there is, especially since I don't do much audio editing
[18:32] <lagbox> dariebi, may i ask why ? or what problem you are trying to fix perhaps ?
[18:33] <Stereocaulon> farrukhjon, Here´s a tip: after starting Istanbul, click right on the dock icon to display and set options. Sound is not checked by default
[18:33] <onre> hm. any ideas what in ubuntu might cause ssh connections to die with "Broken pipe" message randomly?
[18:33] <init> About the 3rd party repos: If a 3rd party repo is signed, can they push update that overwrite other software
[18:33] <gunfire> lagbox, i tried installing weechat from source code but i failed :(
[18:33] <Stereocaulon> onre, timeout
[18:33] <init> Could they load a evil kernel
[18:33] <farrukhjon> Stereocaulon: ok
[18:33] <gunfire> i was unable to find such thing in it...
[18:33] <init> or backdoors
[18:33] <_B00> mBison: me neither and I DJ/produce... lol
[18:33] <cheako> Hello, my gettys are not restarting on percies.
[18:33] <lagbox> gunfire, did you follow the install / readme directions
[18:34] <theadmin> init: Technically, yes. Avoid 3rd party repos.
[18:34] <dariebi> cause i was installing kubuntu-desktop and it failed, now i cant deinstall kubuntu with the command sudo tasksel remove kubuntu
[18:34] <mBison> what do you use to edit audio in linux?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> init: sure, but PPAs are not enabled by default
[18:34] <onre> Stereocaulon, not likely, the connection might die amidst typing a sentence in irc. there's other computer here where ssh connection to same host has stayed up for almost a week.
[18:34] <theadmin> init: If you can, that is
[18:34] <theadmin> mBison: Audacity.
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> mBison: ubuntu studio has a tonneof audio and video editors
[18:34] <_B00> mBison: I dual boot :-(
[18:35] <lagbox> dariebi, you can try to install a different xxxxx-desktop and see what happens
[18:35] <gunfire> lagbox,  http://www.weechat.org/files/ubuntu/lucid/0.3.6/amd64/
[18:35] <mBison> i just checked out Audacity, i had it before, it didnt do what i needed it to do
[18:35] <cheako> ps output says nothing running on the effected ttys(looks like all of them, but I have a shell on one.
[18:35] <SixtyFold> ikonia: it's in the paste-bin thank you under my nick
[18:35] <gunfire> weechat-curses_0.3.6-2_amd64.deb i downloaded this one...
[18:35] <ikonia> SixtyFold: what's the url
[18:35] <onre> mBison, what sort of audio editing you need to do?
[18:35] <gunfire> in which no read me file is there....
[18:35] <mBison> do you use oracle VM on your linux box?
[18:35] <cheako> I just know if I exit this shell the TTY will be lost.
[18:35] <dariebi> lagbox: thank you, which other desktops are able?
[18:35] <Stereocaulon> onre, broken-pipe is exactly the error you get when you encounter a timeout. Mostly the timeout occurs on the server itself. (Advanced) Firewalls or other restricting programs can also cause problems.
[18:36] <theadmin> mBison: Sometimes, works great :D
[18:36] <onre> mBison, if you need something like Cubase or Logic, you might try ardour
[18:36] <SixtyFold> paste.ubuntu.com/816775
[18:36] <SixtyFold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/816775
[18:36] <pooltable> look for ubuntu 12.04 with hud for testing or add hud for testing now ???
[18:36] <mBison> mix music and slow it down remove vocals
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: sudo dpkg -i filename; sudo apt-get -f install
[18:36] <onre> Stereocaulon, well, i connect to that server from four different computers. this ubuntu 11.10 laptop is the only one exhibiting that behaviour. it also happens when i ssh from it to other hosts.
[18:36] <cheako> lsof shows the same thing, the /dev/tty files are not open.
[18:36] <lagbox> gunfire, well those aren't source files
[18:36] <ikonia> SixtyFold: ahhh backports maybe te issue here
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: Precise is offtopic here until release day
[18:37] <ikonia> SixtyFold: did you enable that repo on purpose ?
[18:37] <onre> Stereocaulon, i've also outruled my internet connection as the cause, because when i replace this with a windows laptop, connection stays up for days.
[18:37] <_B00> mBison: Check out Qtractor
[18:37] <SixtyFold> im not sure what that means tbh
[18:37] <SixtyFold> so no i didnt do that on purpose i dont believe
[18:37] <onre> Stereocaulon, even if it's idle all the time. to be exact, that's what made me find that it's limited to this computer only :)
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: chat and support is in #ubuntu+1
[18:37] <lagbox> dariebi, xubuntu is a popular one
[18:37] <pooltable> actionparsnip when is that ???
[18:37] <ikonia> SixtyFold: backports are software packages from other versions, they are not always wise as can cause conflicts, but are better than PPAs
[18:37] <dariebi> ok, thx i'll try it
[18:38] <ikonia> SixtyFold: what package are you trying to install ?
[18:38] <bobo37773> lagbox: xubuntu is awesoem
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: when is what?
[18:38] <gunfire> lagbox, than what are they called ?
[18:38] <SixtyFold> all the system security updates and such that come up by default
[18:38] <lagbox> bobo37773, yes true ... but you are an open box user ?
[18:38] <Stereocaulon> onre, do you have any other network problems on that laptop when using ubuntu? If it is running wireless, try a wired connection, to see if that solves things. Your Wlan-card support might be wonky.
[18:38] <lagbox> gunfire, those are packages ... you need to use the package manager to install them
[18:38] <bobo37773> lagbox: Yeah. But not for installs for other people.
[18:38] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, thanks :) can you tell me from where i can know or learn more about such dpkg commands.
[18:38] <mBison> Oooh! i like Qtractor, thanks
[18:39] <xafarder> hello good evening from figueres (catalonia)
[18:39] <pooltable> actionparsnip when is that  for 12.04
[18:39] <_B00> mBison: yw
[18:39] <lagbox> gunfire, i believe ActionParsnip gave you an answer
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: look at the version number, and think
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: the web, or man pages
[18:39] <_B00> I can't comment asnever used it. I use fruity loops
[18:39] <onre> Stereocaulon, i've tried both wired and wireless, and it's same with both. everything else works just fine but tcp connections die somewhere between ~five minutes and ~half an hour from when they're established.
[18:39] <owenll> pooltable: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> pooltable: bearing in mind the current year ;)
[18:39] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, ok let me google it
[18:40] <SixtyFold> ikonia: all the system security updates and such that come up by default
[18:40] <Zalbu> so i'm trying to install ubuntu on my macbook
[18:40] <ikonia> SixtyFold: ahh so I wonder if it's a back port that it's trying to update
[18:40] <Zalbu> i've created a cd but when i try to load it it just says "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[18:40] <Stereocaulon> onre, check the ssh log and try to sniff the connection for any signs of problems.
[18:40] <SixtyFold> ikonia: yah, whats a back port?
[18:40] <pooltable> actionparsnip i know apr 2012
[18:40] <n_wasabi> estamos sendo analisados e rastreados o tempo todo
[18:40] <Zalbu> what do
[18:40] <ikonia> SixtyFold: the process I explained to you earlier
[18:40] <cordyceps> anybody here using battery backup like apc-ups?
[18:40] <ikonia> SixtyFold: and in your pastebin you can see that that repo is not avilable due to a lack of key
[18:41] <ikonia> cordyceps: yes
[18:41] <Stereocaulon> !es| n_wasabi
[18:41] <cordyceps> ikonia: apcupsd?
[18:41] <xafarder> i'm using Ubuntu 10.10 and i'm so in love with gnome 2, is Ubuntu 12.04 going to have the option to work in this environment?
[18:41] <onre> Stereocaulon, well, it's not limited to ssh. long http downloads suffer of the same as well. i dunno if there's something doing the equivalent of ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 somewhere :p
[18:41] <SixtyFold> ikonia: how do i disable it?
[18:41] <ikonia> cordyceps: no
[18:41] <mneptok> !pt | n_wasabi
[18:41] <ikonia> cordyceps: I can't remember the apc model I'm using
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> xafarder: gnome2 is no longer developed
[18:41] <n_wasabi> how much we know about illuminati?
[18:41] <ikonia> SixtyFold: I don't think it's that simple, as your software will have already been changed by the back ports repo
[18:41] <lagbox> dang ... gimp ... error while loading shared library ... which i have installed
[18:42] <yassharTuna> Hello Friends!
[18:42] <SixtyFold> ikonia: okay, well how do i not pick them when installing?
[18:42] <cordyceps> ikonia: how did you configure it?
[18:42] <ikonia> lagbox: dependencies from PPA
[18:42] <bobo37773> yassharTuna: Hey
[18:42] <SixtyFold> ikonia: all i did was the default install of 11.10
[18:42] <Zalbu> oi
[18:42] <lagbox> ikonia, yup ... working down the chain
[18:42] <Stereocaulon> onre, the best way to check that is by using a network sniffer, if you have some knowledge about TCP IP, those progs can really help identify problems.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> xafarder: Maverick is EOL in April this year. I suggest you use xubuntu if you like the Gnome2 feel
[18:42] <Zalbu> i need some help
[18:42] <ikonia> cordyceps: just in the hardware, not using the alerting
[18:42] <lagbox> ikonia, i will get there
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Zalbu: just ask
[18:42] <Zalbu> i did
[18:42] <ikonia> SixtyFold: something has changed it as I don't think backports are enabled by default
[18:42] <lagbox> is gimp 2.7 in 11.10 ?
[18:42] <Zalbu> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my macbook
[18:42] <ikonia> !info gimp
[18:43] <ikonia> lagbox: 2.6
[18:43] <Zalbu> but when i try to boot from the cd it says unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: its the same in precise too
[18:43] <OerHeks> !mac
[18:43] <yassharTuna> Wow, never seen a room with so much activity. I'll try to help out as much as I can.
[18:43] <SixtyFold> ikonia: well, this is my third clean install and second iso ive dled to see what was up and ive picked nothing weird except the mp3 thing at the beginning, you think that could have enabled a 'backport'?
[18:44] <ikonia> SixtyFold: don't think so
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn
[18:44] <ikonia> SixtyFold: see if any of the users with a clean 11.10 install in the channel can confirm if back ports are enabled
[18:44] <ikonia> I've got to pop out now
[18:44] <lagbox> ActionParsnip, yeah ... that is why i am having issues right now ... going back to 2.6
[18:44] <SixtyFold> ok, tnks
[18:44] <bobo37773> Zalbu: Did you check the md5 / sha1 sums etc..
[18:44] <adom> hi all. on 10.04, i was using a 1280x1024 monitor, just unplugged and plugged in a 1600x900 monitor. should i restart anything? restart X? restart gnome window manager? and if so can i just "sudo service x11-common restart"?
[18:44] <Zalbu> do i have to make a seperate partition to boot ubuntu
[18:44] <SixtyFold> does anyone with a clean install of 11.10 know if backports are enabled in the default install?
[18:45] <gunfire> ActionParsnip, how can i install weechat_0.3.6-2build1.debian.tar.gz
[18:45] <bobo37773> Zalbu: Not to boot the livecd
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Zalbu: no but you should make on for swap
[18:45] <lagbox> ActionParsnip, and unfortunately it is really a development version ... i have tons of problems with scripts and weird behavior
[18:45] <Stereocaulon>  After the update from Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 I´m having trouble with the scim replacement ibus. The majority of programs show ¨No input screeen¨ whereas scim worked in *any* application. Dead keys don´t work anymore and I can´ t type any Japanese anymore, even though I do have both ibus and Anthy installed. Any hints how to fix this?
[18:45] <lagbox> gunfire, extract it ...read the readme or install file
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: depends what is in the archive, simply naming the archive is worthless
[18:45] <Zalbu> i have a livecd
[18:45] <Zalbu> but i can't boot it
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Zalbu: how did you make the cD?
[18:45] <Stereocaulon> !enter | Zalbu
[18:46] <Hetep-AFK> hola, it is a necessity for discovering a program to burn dvds. Can a person assist?
[18:46] <Zalbu> burning it to a cd from osx
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Zalbu: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[18:46] <Stereocaulon> Hetep-AFK, What kind of DVD´s, data or Video?
[18:46] <theadmin> Hetep-AFK: Ubuntu comes with Brasero, use that. There's also a bunch of others.
[18:46] <gunfire> lagbox, there is no such file inside..
[18:46] <lagbox> alright hold on
[18:46] <Hetep-AFK> for data
[18:46] <Zalbu> don't think so
[18:47] <gunfire> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/weechat-core
[18:47] <Hetep-AFK> Brasero returns error every time
[18:47] <lagbox> cool
[18:47] <Guest2889> Having an issue with my sound card I believe, after upgrading a few months back ( I pulled my battery out when it froze during shutdown, just got it working again yesterday) I have sounds playing through both the speakers, and my headphones. If I mute my speakers, then it mutes my headphones. I have tried some of the fixes Google as rendered to me, but they don't work. Anyone know anything about it?
[18:47] <Stereocaulon> Hetep-AFK, try k3b
[18:47] <gunfire> i have downloaded the package from the above link...
[18:47] <tjiggi_fo> Zalbu, do you have a powerPC or a Pentium CPU? you need the correct .iso for each
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Zalbu it's a concious action
[18:47] <ianliu_> I'm running Ubuntu, and it seems to be using lsh instead of ssh. How do I change this?
[18:48] <lagbox> gunfire, that isn't a source file either
[18:48] <Zalbu> it is verified
[18:48] <lagbox> gunfire, where did you get the tar.bz ?
[18:48] <gunfire> lagbox, than how can i isntall that weechat-core ?
[18:48] <gunfire> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/weechat-core
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> ianliu_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:48] <gunfire> i got that from the above link...
[18:48] <lagbox> gunfire, if it is a package ... apt-get install package-name
[18:48] <bobo37773> Zalbu: If the cd keeps refusing to boot then try a live usb
[18:48] <lagbox> gunfire, what version of ubuntu are you on ?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !info weechat
[18:48] <Stereocaulon> ianliu_, try finding out what the command ¨ ssh¨ points to with: which ssh
[18:49] <gunfire> 11.04
[18:49] <Zalbu> well, i can boot the cd but the install screen won't load after i see the ubuntu splash screen
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> gunfire: the app is in the repos, albeit a slightly earlier version
[18:49] <lagbox> gunfire, what is the name of 11.04 ?
[18:49] <theadmin> lagbox: natty
[18:49] <lagbox> theadmin, i know ... trying to make a point
[18:50] <gunfire> natty naharwal.. sorry for the sp
[18:50] <bobo37773> Zalbu: Are you sure you waited long enough?
[18:50] <Zalbu> yes
[18:50] <ianliu_> ActionParsnip: I did that, but it is still using lsh. Running sudo service lsh-server stop and then sudo service ssh start,which  gives me  "ssh stop/pre-start, process 20695"
[18:50] <lagbox> gunfire, precise is not the version you are using
[18:50] <Zalbu> i got some kind of console screen saying BusyBox
[18:50] <theadmin> lagbox: OH! Sorry *slaps herself on the face*
[18:50] <lagbox> theadmin, hehe ... its all good  ;)
[18:50] <xafarder> ActionParsnip, you said gnome 2 is no longer being developed.... but is there any interface similar to gnome 2 that i'll be able to use in Ubuntu 12.04? That's my point: I hate Unity and Gnome 3, and Gnome classic it far different from original Gnome 2
[18:50] <gunfire> ActionParsnip,  i want the latest version bcoz i have it's config file which i used to use in arch linux.
[18:50]  * lagbox stops theadmin from slapping self
[18:51] <bobo37773> Zalbu: Sounds like a bad burn or a wrong iso. Try burning cd again at a lower speed
[18:51] <theadmin> gunfire: You can't use precise packages in natty. But you can switch back to Arch ;)
[18:51] <lagbox> gunfire, more than likely attempting to install that you will run into numerous conflicts and libraries you do not have
[18:51] <Zalbu> i already burned it at the lowest speed
[18:51] <Stereocaulon> xafarder, try XFCE or LXDE, or even IceWM
[18:51] <theadmin> IceWM? That still exists? wow.
[18:51] <gunfire> lagbox, ok so i will install from natty
[18:51] <theadmin> I forgot all about it xD
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> xafarder: xfce, there is also a guide on omgubuntu how you can tweak the Gnome3 UI. xfce will be easier and will run all your Gnome aps fine
[18:52] <xafarder> well I'll give it a try, thanks ActionParsnip and Stereocaulon
[18:52] <gunfire> lagbox, no i can't use. :(
[18:52] <bobo37773> xafarder: There are gnome2 forks too
[18:52] <lagbox> gunfire, try ... apt-get install weechat-curses
[18:52] <gunfire> the core version is 3.0
[18:52] <xafarder> bobo37773, i know about Mate and Linux Mint ..
[18:53] <xafarder> bobo37773, but I would like to continue using Ubuntu since it seems to me has more reliabily behind....
[18:53] <bobo37773> xafarder: Yeah. Thats what I mean. Is there mate for ubuntu?
[18:53] <lagbox> gunfire, it looks like a fancier BitchX
[18:53] <mbeierl> Zalbu, is it a powerpc or intel mac?
[18:53] <xafarder> bobo37773, I don't think so
[18:53] <Zalbu> íntel
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> xafarder: mint isn't supported here, there is a PPA too but its also not supported here
[18:53] <gunfire> lagbox, it install but it's bit older version and i have a config file of weechat which i used in arch.
[18:53] <xafarder> bobo37773, I think Mate only Mint
[18:53] <Stereocaulon> theadmin, IceWM might be fugly, but it does it´s chores...
[18:53] <theadmin> Not sure this is the right channel, but, are there any plans for official E17 and/or Openbox versions of Ubuntu?
[18:53] <xafarder> ActionParsnip, I know and sorry for having spam about Mint
[18:53] <gunfire> so wanted to install the latest version...but it's not there in ubuntu, no prob it's still fine :)
[18:53] <theadmin> Stereocaulon: Openbox works great for me :D
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> xafarder: theres also clementine but is also not supported here
[18:54] <lagbox> gunfire, unfortunately ... you are going to run into these types of problems ... you can try stepping it up one version and see if it will install ... or get the actual source from the weechat site
[18:54] <Stereocaulon> theadmin, I use LXDE myself and I love it. Really snappy.
[18:54] <xafarder> ActionParsnip, thanks for your help, I will try XFCE
[18:54] <gunfire> i tried to install but now i tend to get bit confused in the way arch and ubuntu works..
[18:54] <theadmin> Stereocaulon: LXDE's allright, but still a bit too... bulky for me.
[18:54] <gunfire> in terms of package management..
[18:54] <lagbox> theadmin, i have been wondering that for years
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: bulky? how so?
[18:55] <gunfire> i am totally new to ubuntu
[18:55] <bobo37773> xafarder: I went gnome2 --> openbox
[18:55] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Panels take up my screen space >.<
[18:55] <xafarder> bobo37773, openbox? mmmm
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: haha
[18:55] <Stereocaulon> theadmin, whoa, LXDE bulky? I thought it was as light as a feather, hence the name
[18:55] <lagbox> theadmin, also all my gnome-panels are autohide ... takes up like 1-2 pixels per panel
[18:55] <crash> hi how can i open my ports in ubuntu
[18:55] <crash> ??
[18:55] <gunfire> lxde and openbox are best would like to try them in ubuntu
[18:56] <Stereocaulon> theadmin, I have my (only) panel set on autohide, no problems there
[18:56] <iceroot> gunfire: called lubuntu
[18:56] <Stereocaulon> crash, try firestarter
[18:56] <lagbox> crash open your ports from the outside or just open them on your system ?
[18:56] <theadmin> Stereocaulon: Makes sense, still, you gotta have them :P And I'd rather avoid those. I mostly use Launchy to run things.
[18:56] <bobo37773> gunfire: I am sure you can try them from your install.
[18:56] <xafarder> mmmm I just want to have the power to decide where I want to put the panels (left, right, top, bottom) and configure it all just like I want
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: my whole desktop inc dropbox, gmail-notifier and pidgin takes a whopping 164Mb :)
[18:57] <theadmin> xafarder: You sound like you want XFCE. Which is almost identical to gnome2 :D
[18:57] <bobo37773> xafarder: xfce can do all that stuff
[18:57] <xafarder> theadmin, so there I go!
[18:57] <xafarder> thanks
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> xafarder  there's MyUnity
[18:57] <gunfire> bobo37773, ya i will try them from install and will try awesome, would like to experiment a bit now...
[18:57] <Stereocaulon> theadmin, that´s also a possibility. I am quite content with LXDE.
[18:57] <Guest60204> how can i open ports in my system
[18:57] <Guest60204> ??
[18:57] <Guest60204> firestarter is firewall only
[18:57] <gunfire> can any one give some link where package management is more simplified ?
[18:57] <bobo37773> gunfire: Once you go lightweight it is hard to go back. Have fun.
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest60204  it's in your router, not in your OS
[18:57] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I do understand that, that's not the "bulkiness" I'm talking about actually... LXDE uses consolekit too iirc, annoying to have.
[18:58] <bobo37773> gunfire: Mare simplified?
[18:58] <bobo37773> more*
[18:58] <gunfire> bobo37773, for that instance i love openbox and have spent more than 2 years....
[18:58] <Stereocaulon> Guest60204, yes, that´s true, but in a firewall you can open ports.
[18:58] <lagbox> lxde .. is similar to xfce ?
[18:58] <gunfire> i used to use arch which my brother configured.....
[18:58] <gunfire> and i got use to it....
[18:59] <gunfire> lagbox, partially not so much but lxde is more fun to use than xfce
[18:59] <theadmin> gunfire: Arch's pretty cool when configured right, but is offtopic here... Actually, polling for DEs is too
[18:59] <bobo37773> gunfire: The backend package manager is apt. If you want a good cli package manager try aptitude
[18:59] <lagbox> window maker ... talk about taking up screen space :)
[19:00] <gunfire> bobo37773, can you share some link from where i can learn more about pacakge management of ubuntu ??
[19:00] <Guest60204> how can i change in ma os ports ??
[19:00] <Guest60204> i didn get ur ans properly
[19:00] <theadmin> !APT | gunfire
[19:00] <lagbox> gunfire, do you know what version of weechat will work with your config file ? try and get a package as close to that and try installing it ... you may be able to actually fix the dependency problems without causing extra conflicts
[19:00] <Stereocaulon> lagbox, yes Windowmaker takes a lot of screen space. I never use it anymore, but I used to have it on my FreeBSD box back in 2002
[19:00] <glen_> what is up auspicious panel of intellectuals??
[19:01] <gunfire> lagbox, i need 3.6 version
[19:01] <lagbox> Stereocaulon, yea i was using it from 98-02
[19:01] <gunfire> and the latest that is available in ubuntu is 3.0
[19:01] <lagbox> gunfire ... no i mean from the companies site
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Guest60204  it's different for every router http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[19:02] <glen_> ok...i do not have internet at home....but i do have a wireless laptop and someone just gave me a wireless printer...is it possible to connect w/o a network?
[19:02] <lagbox> gunfire, what happens when you try to dpkg - i packagefile.deb
[19:02] <gunfire> i downloaded the latest version 3.6 but when i install it , it says the weechat-core is old-version and it stops..
[19:03] <lagbox> gunfire, okay ... get the core package
[19:03] <gunfire> so to run succesfully that app i need to get the core of 3.6 version
[19:03] <bobo37773> gunfire: Do you know what a man page is?
[19:03] <Stereocaulon> After the update from Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.10 I´m having trouble with the scim replacement ibus. The majority of programs show ¨No input screeen¨ whereas scim worked in *any* application. Dead keys don´t work anymore and I can´ t type any Japanese anymore, even though I do have both ibus and Anthy installed. Any hints how to fix this?
[19:03] <gunfire> bobo37773, yup
[19:03] <bobo37773> gunfire: Thats the way I learn
[19:04] <lagbox> gunfire, you may need a few of those deb files in that directory
[19:04] <Guest60204> tnx :)
[19:04] <gunfire> ok :)
[19:05] <bobo37773> gunfire: If that doesn't show you what you are looking for then google is your friend
[19:05] <feffe> ciao a tutti
[19:05] <xafarder> guys, I read the following: "Xfce lacks a good editor for the menu, other than that, I think it's far better than Gnome in many ways."
[19:05] <lagbox> gunfire, are you on a decent broadband connection ?
[19:05] <Stereocaulon> !it | feffe
[19:05] <xafarder> is this true?
[19:05] <bobo37773> xafarder: Hard to say. It depends on what you think
[19:05] <lagbox> xafarder, well that would be an opinion i suppose
[19:06] <xafarder> yes, I got it from a forum
[19:06] <bobo37773> xafarder: What does better mean anyway?
[19:06] <xafarder> I don't know
[19:06] <bobo37773> xafarder: Hahaha
[19:06] <xafarder> i am asking to know hehhee
[19:06] <xafarder> I'm a computer engineer
[19:06] <mBison> does ubuntu support mulit processor better than windows xp or windows 7?
[19:06] <blitz> how would I run a script every time linux boots
[19:06] <lagbox> xafarder .... better is subjective
[19:06] <xafarder> and I don't know anything about it lol
[19:07] <Guest2889> anyone had the problem of sound coming from speakers and headphones?
[19:07] <bobo37773> xafarder: It is lighter. A bit faster in a lot of respects too. That makes it better to me
[19:07] <lagbox> blitz,  i guess that depends what run level you are booting into
[19:07] <blitz> needs to be su commans
[19:07] <Legendario> anyone that can help me if the isolinux.cfg edition in here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole ???
[19:07] <Stereocaulon> Guest2889, I actually like it if there´s sound from these devices, that´s what they are for, isn´t it?
[19:08] <bobo37773> later everyone off to work
[19:08] <mBison> cya
[19:08] <lagbox> cya bobo37773
[19:08] <Stereocaulon> bobo37773, have a nice working dat
[19:08] <Guest2889> maybe, but at the same time? If I'm in the library I doubt others want to study while hearing Suicide Silence?
[19:08] <Stereocaulon> bobo37773, have a nice working day
[19:08] <dragly> Hi, I'm trying to disable the screen saver that kicks in on the login screen after some time. Do you know where the settings for this is?
[19:09] <lagbox> blitz, what about needs to be su what ?
[19:09] <gunfire> lagbox, ya
[19:09] <lagbox> gunfire, just download all of those debs
[19:09] <lagbox> gunfire, install the core one then what ever one you were trying to install before
[19:09] <Stereocaulon> Guest2889, install alsamixer where you can set sound levels for headphones and speaker individually
[19:10] <blitz> just want to run these http://paste.ubuntu.com/816816/, but need to have root permission
[19:10] <Guest2889> tried that, doesn't work for me.
[19:10] <gunfire> lagbox, finish downloading moving forward with the installation steps..
[19:10] <overclucker> Stereocaulon: have you tried reinstalling ibus-anthy? worked for me after I updated
[19:10] <Guest2889> it happened after I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[19:11] <lagbox> how can i find out all packages offered through a ppa ?
[19:11] <bastidrazor> blitz: echo stuff here | sudo tee /proc/files/places ..
[19:11] <xafarder> bye boboo
[19:11] <gunfire> lagbox, now there is a prob with other dependencies :(
[19:11] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, I tried a clean reinstall yes. First a purge, than a complete reinstall of ibus and it´s plugins
[19:11] <gunfire> it's better not to install weechat now..
[19:11] <xafarder> gotta go too
[19:11] <lagbox> gunfire, like what ... and is it for the correct version of ubuntu you are running ?
[19:11] <xafarder> thanks a lot for your comments byeee
[19:11] <gunfire> ya
[19:12] <gunfire> i think i have to update 2-3 packages before i can successfully run it.
[19:12] <lagbox> gunfire, is your system up to date ?
[19:13] <gunfire> lagbox, let me update it one more time...
[19:13] <Hetep-AFK> k3b returns error "Unable to open new session"
[19:13] <lagbox> gunfire, you don't need to if you already checked today
[19:14] <gunfire> no the system is upto date...
[19:14] <lagbox> gunfire, okay .. what packages is it having a problem with ?
[19:15] <gunfire> lagbox, it is having prob with libgcrypt11 and libgnutils26
[19:15] <Stereocaulon> Hetep-AFK, in that case you are using a DVD or a CD with not enough space to open a new session. In other words, it already contains sessions.
[19:15] <Stereocaulon> Hetep-AFK, try another CDR/ DVDR
[19:16] <lagbox> gunfire, okay do you have them installed ... or is it complaining that it needs a higher version ?
[19:17] <gunfire> it's complaining it need's higher verison
[19:18] <gunfire> libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.6.1-0) and libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5)
[19:18] <gunfire> they are one version down right now
[19:18] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, I don´t care if I use ibus or scim, scim worked me on 8.04 through Ubuntu versions 11.04
[19:18] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, I don´t care if I use ibus or scim, scim worked >for< me on 8.04 through Ubuntu versions 11.04
[19:19] <lagbox> ppa-purge rocks
[19:19] <Hetep-AFK> /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.
[19:21] <Stereocaulon> Hetep-AFK, sounds like you have hardware issues on your optical drive. Did you search for that error message, to see what it actually means?
[19:21] <lagbox> yay ... a functional install of gimp again ... now i can get back to work on this damn site design
[19:21] <overclucker> Stereocaulon: is ibus enables in language support?
[19:22] <pradeepk> hi all , mesa driver support 3d games on wine
[19:22] <pradeepk> does it?
[19:22] <Guest2889> Stereocaulon: if I mute the speakers, it mutes everything, if I unmute my system it then begins playing through the speakers and headphones again. I read about Heaphone Jack Sensing, but I haven't been able to find anything on my computer about it, or in alsamixer
[19:22] <owenll> Hetep-AFK: have you tried using another cd burning programme to see if it a problem with your drive?
[19:22] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, I wil check just be sure, just a sec...
[19:23] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, now it is, it was set to scim previously, but it still shows that @#! No input screen...
[19:24] <Legendario> anyone that can help me if the isolinux.cfg edition in here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole ???
[19:24] <overclucker> Stereocaulon: did you log out and back in?
[19:24] <Legendario> anyone that can help me if the isolinux.cfg edition in here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole ???
[19:25] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, no, is that really necessary, I have a lot of apps open atm?
[19:25] <overclucker> Stereocaulon: yup
[19:26] <deitarion> Does anyone know of a PPA which provides an Audacious Media Player with a proper ffaudio plugin? The version oneiric offers won't play WMA and the webupd8 PPA just upgraded me from a perfect 3.1 to a 3.2 that lacks the ffaudio plugin altogether and throws all sorts of ridiculous padding into the playlist columns.
[19:26] <lagbox> Legendario, what is your question ... that seems like a page that tells you how to do it
[19:27] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, well, I´ ve got to try this, brb
[19:27] <lagbox> deitarion, its probably not audacious ... do your other audio applications have issues with those files ?
[19:27] <Stereocaulon> Logging out, brb
[19:28] <root___> Hi
[19:28] <Bao> can i install ubuntu 11 now and upgrade to 12 LTS when it comes out, safely??
[19:28] <deitarion> lagbox: That's not a very good metric. Oneiric MPlayer's built-in MP3 support, for example, crackles on many MP3s but Audacious and Gentoo MPlayer play them fine.
[19:28] <root___> name Bury
[19:29] <Legendario> lagbox,  i have a doubt on how to edit the isolinux.cfg file
[19:29] <root___> sry for my words ;) i try this program :)
[19:29] <noordung> Bao, well, yes...
[19:29] <owenll> Bao: yes
[19:29] <Jordan_U> root___: You really shouldn't run your IRC client as root.
[19:29] <Legendario> that example is not clear to me
[19:29] <Wulong> Bao: in theory; yes. But if you want to be 100% safe, then wait.
[19:29] <lauratika> hello everyone, im using ubuntu 11.10 and for some reason gets super slow rigth now im using banshee and the browser witrh just this window open, usinng unity  and 2 applets... and the use of memory is for 746 and the swap is at 850 mb... is this normal?... where should i look for memory leaks or clogs?
[19:29] <deitarion> lagbox: Also, They're the EXACT SAME FILES that played fine on webupd8's Audacious 3.1 and Gentoo's Audacious 3.0 but won't play in Oneiric Audacious 3.0 and webupd8 Audacious 3.2 because the ffaudio plugin is flat-out MISSING.
[19:29] <deitarion> Well, I may be mis-remembering the Oneiric 3.0. It may just have been an ffaudio built without WMA support there.
[19:29] <lagbox> deitarion, is ffaudio like a restricted thing ?
[19:30] <TrueCryer> Hi all
[19:30] <deitarion> lagbox: It's an Audacious plugin that wraps libavcodec so Audacious can play anything ffmpeg understands.
[19:31] <lagbox> well considering i am using the regular repos version of audacious ... let me check my wma files
[19:32] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, I'm back, but ibus is still not working, I can't even see the dock icon for it.
[19:32] <Hetep-AFK> owenll: a suggestion from the web was to sudo usermod -aG $USER cdrom
[19:32] <lauratika> some one willing to help on a possible memory leak?
[19:33] <lagbox> deitarion, i have no problem with wma's ... re explain why you have a need to not use audacious from the repo ?
[19:34] <deitarion> lagbox: Because it reports no decoder found for various files that will play on the exact same version of Audacious in other distros.
[19:34] <lagbox> deitarion, what version of ubuntu again ?
[19:34] <lagbox> deitarion, did you install all the extras and restricted stuff ?
[19:35] <Guest2889> Stereocaulin: ok, sorry, lost my connection. do you have any other ideas that I can try? I tried muting speakers, that also mutes my headphones, if I unmute my headphones, it keeps my speakers muted.
[19:35] <deitarion> Lubuntu Oneiric and I pulled in every audacious package I could find. (Though, being part of the core Lubuntu install, it should probably be doing that automatically when you check "yes, restricted codecs" in the installer)
[19:35] <lagbox> lubuntu xubuntu kubuntu ... its all ubuntu yes ?
[19:36] <guest> anyone able to assist with setting up a personal wireless hotspot in ubuntu without a router?
[19:36] <deitarion> lagbox: They're all Ubuntu, but Audacious is pulled in by the lubuntu-desktop meta-package, so it should get more testing than any arbitrary 3rd-party media player.
[19:37] <lagbox> what version of ubuntu ? number
[19:37] <lagbox> the letter means nothing
[19:37] <deitarion> 11.10
[19:38] <deitarion> Freshly-installed rather than upgraded too.
[19:38] <lagbox> you have gstreamer - ffmpeg installed
[19:38] <deitarion> lagbox: Audacious doesn't use GStreamer. It has its own independent decoding pipeline and plugin system.
[19:39] <ineedhelp> hello?
[19:39] <ineedhelp> hello?
[19:39] <overclucker> Stereocaulon: see if there is anything you need to change in ibus-setup
[19:39] <ineedhelp> can someone help me with my ubuntu
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: year.month number
[19:39] <Bury> Hi again ;)
[19:39] <ineedhelp> bury
[19:39] <lagbox> deitarion, im just throwing stuff out because you are obviously out of options
[19:40] <lagbox> guest http://freshtutorial.com/create-your-own-wifi-hotspot-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[19:40] <ineedhelp> hello?????
[19:40] <owenll> !ask | ineedhelp
[19:40] <TrueCryer> Hello
[19:40] <ineedhelp> can someone help me
[19:40] <ineedhelp> with upgrading
[19:40] <deitarion> lagbox: I'm not out of options, I'm just hoping I won't have to build from source again. I thought I was through with that when Gentoo's 2.x unstable packages incorporated the last SVN fixes I needed.
[19:41]  * Bury 
[19:41] <deitarion> (A year or two ago)
[19:41] <Stereocaulon> overclucker, under input methods, none are selectable, the list is empty, even though I *did* install anthy and several other IME's. Even the interface on the right side has been greyed out ( I can't add, delete anything)
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> ineedhelp: details plase
[19:41] <Jordan_U> ineedhelp: We can't help you until you tell us what problem you're having.
[19:41] <lagbox> deitarion, have you installed every single package associated with the name audacious ?
[19:41] <Guest2889> Do you think the issue with my headphones and speakers working this way is some how related to a faulty driver after my upgrade?
[19:41] <ineedhelp> i cant install any packages or upgrade anything, i have teamviewer
[19:41] <ineedhelp> if anyone wants to see
[19:41] <ineedhelp> i have jaunty
[19:41] <ineedhelp> and i wanna upgrade to karmic or something
[19:42] <deitarion> lagbox: No. There are plenty of ones I don't need like audacious-analog-vumeter-plugin and xmp-audacious
[19:42] <lagbox> deitarion, i understand but you can remove them ... my assumption is something is missing becuse i only have a few packages that come up with a dpkg -l | grep audacious
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[19:42] <Guest14380> hallow :D
[19:42] <theadmin> !EOL | ineedhelp
[19:42] <shade34321> how can i use cat to write to stdin instead of stdout?
[19:42] <matrixsg1> can someone tell me if I can access my programs from a folder, rather than using Dash Home to access the programs I have installed?
[19:43] <ineedhelp> none of the servers work for me
[19:43] <theadmin> shade34321: cat file | something-which-reads-from-stdin
[19:43] <ineedhelp> to install packages
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> ineedhelp: grab the alternate iso and use that
[19:43] <deitarion> lagbox: Trust me on this. I know what doesn't provide ffaudio. Gentoo has those packages and I've even poked about a bit. The ONLY thing I don't have ample experience with is Ubuntu packaging.
[19:44] <Jordan_U> ineedhelp: See the link from ubottu on EOL upgrades.
[19:44] <ineedhelp> can you install a program called teamviewer and assist me? i dont wanna mess anything up
[19:44] <deitarion> s/poked about a bit/poked about a bit in the source tarballs and compiled my own builds at various points in time/
[19:44] <shade34321> ok...but what if i wanted to run it as a command say it has something wtih apt-get in it, I'm manually updatinga package since it's not doing it by itself
[19:44] <lagbox> deitarion, no results for ffaudio
[19:44] <deitarion> lagbox: Yeah, because it's supposed to be part of the audacious-plugins package... it's just a crapshoot whether or not people build it.
[19:45] <theadmin> shade34321: Probably "apt-get install < filename-with-package-list"
[19:45] <deitarion> lagbox: You could almost say ffaudio_built = bool(audacious_plugins_version % 2)
[19:45] <theadmin> shade34321: Or whatever.
[19:45] <ineedhelp> ok i guess nobody can install teamviewer and assist me..
[19:45] <lagbox> deitarion, my version has ffaudio so i don't know what the problem is ... maybe it was dropped in 11.10
[19:45] <shade34321> oh...cool...thanks:)
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> ineedhelp: there is a  script i the root of the cd
[19:46] <Jordan_U> ineedhelp: What is wrong with the instructions from ubottu?
[19:46] <dlentz> deitarion, i always build my own audacious (usually follow git)
[19:46] <ineedhelp> i tried that, i still couldnt get it to work
[19:46] <ineedhelp> im really new to ubuntu
[19:46] <deitarion> lagbox: I think 11.10 actually comes with an ffaudio that is just crippled. I don't remember noticing it missing when I switched to the webupd8 PPA.
[19:46] <ineedhelp> im used to easy windows
[19:46] <dlentz> deitarion, i'm running in a precise vm and ffaudio.so isn't even built here
[19:46] <lagbox> ineedhelp, i am not installing anything ... do you have VNC server
[19:47] <Jordan_U> ineedhelp: We need details. What happened when you tried the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ?
[19:47] <Stereocaulon> ineedhelp, if you are really new to ubuntu why do you have such an old veriosn of it installed then? Did you just get that PC?
[19:47] <ineedhelp> i had vnc viewer for windows let me install for ubuntu
[19:47] <deitarion> dlentz: Ahh. Then I guess I WILL be building my own packages.
[19:47] <lagbox> and i bet he is behind a firewall as well
[19:48] <dlentz> it's not too difficult if you know how to configure and install appropriate -dev packages
[19:48] <ineedhelp> is vnc viewer like a screen sharer so you can see my screen?
[19:49] <deitarion> Can anyone point me to a guide to building my own packages from the package-building scripts Ubuntu/Debian/etc. packagers use? (So I can do something a bit more proper than './configure && make && checkinstall'
[19:49] <Stereocaulon> ineedhelp, yes on the client side, but you do need vnc-server running on your box.
[19:49] <SunTsu> ineedhelp: if somebody actually installs teamviewer or like and fixes your stuff for you - what are you going to do next time you hit a problem?
[19:49] <Pici> ineedhelp: thats not how this channel typically works.  We help people fix their problems, we don't fix them for you.
[19:49] <Stereocaulon> Pici, good point
[19:49] <ineedhelp> well ive tried this for about a year and gave up
[19:49] <ineedhelp> i cant even do anything
[19:49] <ineedhelp> i cant watch videos, anything
[19:50] <SunTsu> ineedhelp: then let us help you, else you won't learn a bit
[19:50] <deitarion> Ideally, something automatic enough that I can just put together a monthly cronscript that uses `apt-get build-dep` and a few other commands, seds out any --disable flags for ffaudio, and then builds and installs the package.
[19:50] <ineedhelp> teamviewer is helping, i can watch you and learn myself
[19:50] <lagbox> ineedhelp it is a remote desktop system
[19:50] <ineedhelp> i cant learn stuff from reading it, i learn it from watching
[19:50] <SunTsu> ineedhelp: and you learn best from doing
[19:51] <Gentoo64> ineedhelp: what problem are you having?
[19:51] <ineedhelp> cant install anything, i just need assistance getting a good server
[19:51] <ineedhelp> for installing packages and upgrading to karmic
[19:51] <a-saint> anyone having problem in compiling the compat-wireless for aircrack-ng am having this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/816720/ although I have disabled the libertas from config.mk
[19:51] <Stereocaulon> ineedhelp, in that case your nickname is suitable, learn to read first, than come back.
[19:51] <Gentoo64> ineedhelp: im pretty sure you can change the mirro from the uopdate manager gui
[19:51] <lagbox> deitarion, that ffaudio is a known bug/issue ... so it doesn't seem they are fixing it any time soon
[19:52] <ineedhelp> i tried that..
[19:52] <deitarion> lagbox: Hence why I'm asking whether anyone can point me to docs on how to use apt-get, dpkg, and whatever else to retrieve source, compile, and build a deb in an unattended manner.
[19:52] <ineedhelp> i tried almost all the servers..
[19:52] <ineedhelp> just let this vnc viewer plan progress.
[19:52] <Gentoo64> ineedhelp: and whats it say when you go to install stuff
[19:53] <Pici> ineedhelp: You would be better off installing again instead of upgrading, as you will need to go through a number of releases before you will be on the most current release.
[19:53] <lagbox> ineedhelp, are you chatting from that disabled computer ?
[19:53] <ineedhelp> it says some packages couldnt be installed
[19:53] <ineedhelp> and none of them installed
[19:53] <lagbox> ineedhelp, do you have another computer you can burn a disc from ?
[19:53] <Gentoo64> ineedhelp: are you going from a v old version to the latest or something?
[19:54] <ineedhelp> no just to karmic
[19:54] <ineedhelp> i have jaunty
[19:54] <Pici> I think that one person needs to help ineedhelp instead of all of us jumping on him.
[19:54] <Gentoo64> ok sorry
[19:54] <Stereocaulon> ineedhelp, ok, join me in a private chat...
[19:55] <Pici> Gentoo64: I was doing it too, so no need to apoligize :)
[19:55] <dlentz> deitarion, you can use the tarball and packaging from webupd8 ppa, and then rebuild (just be sure to have libavformat-dev installed ffaudio is built)
[19:55] <ineedhelp> ok vnc installed
[19:55] <ineedhelp> how do u connect to me
[19:55] <deitarion> dlentz: Obviously. I'm asking how I "use the tarball and packaging ... and then rebuild". All my experience with custom packaging is either on Gentoo or using "./configure && make && sudo checkinstall"
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> ineedhelp: the upgrade docs show how to mount the ISO and run the installer there
[19:56] <a-saint> hello anyone having problem in compiling the compat-wireless for aircrack-ng am having this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/816720/ although I have disabled the libertas from config.mk
[19:57] <ineedhelp> someone was going to do vnc for me
[19:57] <ineedhelp> and show me what to do
[19:57] <lagbox> ineedhelp, first of all you need vnc server ... then the hope is that you are not behind a firewall
[19:58] <ineedhelp> i have vnc viewer what do i do now
[19:58] <Promot> fr
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> ineedhelp: wget http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso; mkdir /media/iso; mount -o loop ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/iso; /media/iso/cdromupgrade
[19:58] <Promot> Fr
[19:58] <mbeierl> I think Jaunty is past end of life, which means you can no longer use the normal upgrade path
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> ineedhelp: run:  sudo -i     then that as a command
[19:58] <Promot> irc fr
[19:58] <Pici> !fr | Promot
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: can still use alternate ISO :)
[19:59] <ineedhelp> im really confused
[19:59] <lagbox> get a ISO and reinstall ubuntu
[19:59] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, I just saw your post.  you are correct
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> ineedhelp: personally, I'd just wipe and clean install with Oneiric or even Precise (which is Alpha but is LTS).then restore data from backups
[20:00] <Pici> ActionParsnip: Please do not suggest alpha releases to new users.
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Pici: ok but it will save having to upgrade  later, its better long term but the alpha issuesmay be annoying
[20:02] <Pici> ActionParsnip: Alpha issues are unacceptable for someone who expects their install to work.
[20:02] <lagbox> pici, agreed
[20:03] <a-saint> can someone point me how to handle the problem am having
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Pici: true
[20:03] <lagbox> a-saint, did you search the ubuntu forums or do a google search ... because that is all i am going to do
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> or just wait for release and install Precise, problem solved
[20:04] <a-saint> lagbox did you see the pastebin link
[20:04] <Guest55294> so my headphones don't even show up in Sound Settings. only shows Analog Speakers. Is this normal
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest55294: no, of course not.
[20:05] <a-saint> lagbox http://paste.ubuntu.com/816720/
[20:05] <lagbox> a-saint, did you search google yet
[20:05] <a-saint> lagbox truth ...........no
[20:06] <lagbox> well that is a good start .. maybe someone else has had the problem and found a fix
[20:07] <pooltable> help get this to work http://www.qualityhealth.com/coupons
[20:07] <lagbox> also are there any other instructions for building that ... maybe a configure to check dependencies
[20:08] <DJango_Novice> hi there....Im new to  ubuntu and trying to setup SVN but it says Errors were encountered while processing: libapache2-svn
[20:08] <DJango_Novice> any idea
[20:08] <lagbox> pooltable, read the page .... not supported on Linux or WebTV .... you will need to get a copy of IE or run windows in a virtual box
[20:08] <pooltable> i see
[20:08] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, did you search google or the ubuntu forums for the problem ?
[20:09] <lagbox> pooltable, and yes it sucks that they make things like that
[20:09] <DJango_Novice> yes the thing is im new to linux
[20:09] <DJango_Novice> dnt have much understanding os what they say... I was trying to setup SVN
[20:10] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, i would imagine you dont need apache2 to use svn
[20:10] <lagbox> so your trying to setup an svn repo
[20:11] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: I was following a tutorial so i tried that
[20:11] <lagbox> or do you just need svn software to connect to a repo
[20:11] <DJango_Novice> but even if I dont need it for SVN why its not working
[20:11] <DJango_Novice> I will connect to the repo through win 7
[20:12] <lagbox> so you are trying to create a svn repo on the ubuntu box ? ... what version of ubuntu ?
[20:12] <Zoffix_> Hey. I've just setup two 1TB drives as a "RAID-1 Mirror" array (using Disk Utility). The problem is, every time I reboot, I need to open up Disk Utility and click "Start RAID", and after that mount it. I'd like that to be done automatically on boot. I tried googling, and I found some stuff about automounting, but nothing about automatically starting the RAID (without that, the automount stuff doesn't seem to worK).
[20:12] <DJango_Novice> lagbox:11.10
[20:13] <stealth_creation> having an issue with sound coming from both speakers and headphones, at the same time. I have tried alsamixer to set the sound values, but that has not worked. My sound settings don't show that I have a jack for my headphones.
[20:13] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, is it forcing you to install libapache2-svn or are you telling it to install that specific package ?
[20:13] <WordpressNoob> hey guys i have a problem with x11vncserver. i got it to work, but now i get "writerror: socketipv4 error while writing". checking the log, it's saying the connection is refused.
[20:13] <WordpressNoob> ufw is not enabled. any ideas?
[20:14] <lagbox> stealth_creation, does this work in other Operating Systems ?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Zoffix_: you could add the commands in /etc/rc.local    I'm not sure what commands they run but if you get no replies you can use that. Add them above the exit 0 line
[20:14] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: u know what ....Iam new to SVN as well since Im a C# developer
[20:14] <deitarion> lagbox: Found the problem. Oneiric is waaaaaay back on Audacious 2.4.x and includes FFmpeg 0.7. Audacious 3.2 bumped the FFmpeg dependency up to 0.9. The audacious bug tracker recommends installing ffmpeg 0.9 into /opt to prevent 0.7 removal from tearing out half the system.
[20:14] <stealth_creation> it worked up until I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10. The upgrade I believe has caused the issue.
[20:14] <lagbox> deitarion, nice .. i saw stuff about versions lagging in the past
[20:14] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: so i was following a tutorial n it says install subversion and libapache-svn
[20:15] <DJango_Novice> i tried that
[20:15] <stealth_creation> it worked while I was using Windows 7, and worked after i installed Ubuntu
[20:15] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, don't install libapache2-svn ... just subversion and see what happens
[20:15] <ryan__> Hello. Is there a way to (in Precise Alpha 1) force the ubuntu-wallpapers version to a lower version using Synaptic Package Manager?
[20:15] <DJango_Novice> SVN went well but libapache didn work
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:15] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: I tried that as well
[20:15] <DJango_Novice> but somehow I couldnt connect to svn
[20:16] <ryan__> Okay, ActionParsnip. Thank you.
[20:16] <DJango_Novice> n i thought u need apache to response to http request
[20:16] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, next question .. do you have apache2 installed ?
[20:16] <deitarion> lagbox: ...though there IS a bug about how Natty had ffaudio.so for 2.x and oneiric doesn't. I guess it's time for me to whip up a script which puts FFmpeg 0.9 into /opt and then uses apt-get to automatically rebuild the deb.
[20:16] <Zoffix_> ActionParsnip, thanks. I just found this page, and about to reboot to see if the stuff worked. If it doesn't, I'll give your thing a try. Thanks. Here's the page I found if anyone wants it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1329791
[20:16] <DJango_Novice> lagbox:yes
[20:16] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, i was assuming there was a way to connect to svn without http
[20:16] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: i was playing with apache as well
[20:16] <lagbox> deitarion, if you do make sure to post it some where
[20:16] <DJango_Novice> so it might be apache
[20:17] <DJango_Novice> yes you can with svn protocol
[20:17] <deitarion> lagbox: Of course. If I do, I'll put it on GitHub gists and embed it in a blog post.
[20:17] <DJango_Novice> but i want it through http
[20:17] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, why
[20:18] <lagbox> deitarion, awesome
[20:18] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: I dont know.. it should work with http.. why not
[20:18] <WordpressNoob> hey guys i have a problem with x11vncserver. i got it to work, but now i get "writerror: socketipv4 error while writing". checking the log, it's saying the connection is refused.
[20:18] <lagbox> deitarion,  thanks for giving back :)
[20:18] <WordpressNoob> any ideas?
[20:18] <pooltable> thanks
[20:18] <deitarion> lagbox: It's pretty much habit by now. The only stuff I've written that ISN'T public is stuff that I'm still cleaning up from my younger days.
[20:19] <lagbox> deitarion, i hear ya ... i release all my php projects
[20:19] <deitarion> I work mostly in Python, but I do have one or two PHP projects that are currently on their way to being clean enough to share.
[20:19] <deitarion> For example, http://gbindex.ssokolow.com/
[20:20] <deitarion> That one needs a facelift too, so I'd look at the result of typing "tsu" in the search box for a better example of where it's going.
[20:20] <lagbox> stealth_creation, asus ?
[20:20] <stealth_creation> yes
[20:20] <troulouliou_dev> hi is there a command line tool to check a block device for the partition tyê ?
[20:20] <stealth_creation> Asus G72GX
[20:21] <deitarion> (The look and feel of the search results page is at least two years newer than everything else)
[20:21] <lagbox> stealth_creation, this looks like it might work ... not sure though .. use at your own risk ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861677
[20:22] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: any idea???
[20:22] <lagbox> WordpressNoob, please hold
[20:22] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, im thinking ....
[20:23] <DJango_Novice> lagbox:ok
[20:23] <WordpressNoob> lagbox thx
[20:23] <stealth_creation> any help is good help lagbox
[20:23] <stealth_creation> at most I would need a fresh install. want my music for developing through Eclipse. Can't develop anything without tunes
[20:24] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, there might be a better tutorial in the ubuntu server guidee
[20:24] <DJango_Novice> Its been three days now and someone told me i can get help from here :)
[20:25] <DJango_Novice> or you could just provide me with the link if you can please
[20:26] <lagbox> WordpressNoob, what are you doing that you get this error
[20:26] <stealth_creation> this is a wonderful place to get help, but there are huge lines. I'm not complaining by any means.
[20:26] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, trying to ... i got svn up and running without a problem ...but i also don't know what exact error you are getting
[20:26] <lagbox> you guys caught a slower time atm
[20:27] <lagbox> stealth_creation, let me know if that link helps at all ... seemed promising
[20:27] <DJango_Novice> let me try to remove apache with dependencies and try it again.. may be i have messed up with apache
[20:27] <theva> Hi there, is XChat the prefered client for this thing on ubuntu? :)
[20:27] <stealth_creation> I will, and you are right, it does seem promising. Seems to have worked for other Asus models. Can't believe that I didn't find this thread through my Google search
[20:28] <stealth_creation> if I'm not mistaken your Ubuntu installation should come with a default program that allows chatting across different "platforms" as well ass updating facebook and twitter without viewing the site
[20:28] <lagbox> theva i personally prefer XChat for IRC atm but i used to use console IRC clients
[20:29] <stealth_creation> Empathy I think it's called.
[20:29] <lagbox> DJango_Novice, make sure to move your apache config files if you have edited them ... let the reinstall start the config fresh
[20:30] <DJango_Novice> lagbox: yes :) i will get back to you in a bit.. lets see how it goes
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> theva: there is no preferred IRC client in any OS
[20:30] <lagbox> WordpressNoob, that connection refused error ... can you paste the exact wording of it ... but don't flood
[20:30] <theva> I am used to mirc on windows but I guess this is good enough :)
[20:31] <theva> ActionParsnip, there isnt?
[20:31] <meerkats> what does E: Malformed line 109 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (absolute dist)
[20:31] <meerkats> E: The list of sources could not be read. mean?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> theva: no, there are options, and each is just as valid
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> theva: what is THE preferred IRC client in Windows?
[20:31] <theva> ActionParsnip, I guess you are right, how do I turn all those loggin in and out messages off?
[20:31] <trism> meerkats: look at line 109 in /etc/apt/sources.list and see
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: can you run:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    and pastebin the output please
[20:32] <theva> ActionParsnip, mirc I guess, nbs-irc
[20:32] <lagbox> if anyone needs me for the next few minutes that i was helping .. Personal message me
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> theva: why though?? because you use it?
[20:32] <sere> i have a computer w/ no net and want to set up a offline repo....how do i
[20:32] <theva> ActionParsnip, yes :P
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> theva: thats a bit arrogant isn't it
[20:32] <meerkats> trism, ActionParsnip, ok, found it, I commented a line: deb http://debian.yacy.net ./ This crap doesnt seem to work I have to get rid of: "This crap..."
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> theva: http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[20:33] <meerkats> incidentally, is there a ppa for yacy?
[20:33] <theva> ActionParsnip, but I really do not have anything to say about any other client, I have only used that
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> theva: there is no 'preferred' app for anything, there are options. Try a few and see what you like, when you find one, use it. If you like xchat use it.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> theva: http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    and comment out the line or delete it
[20:34] <theva> ActionParsnip, I agree with you
[20:36] <tado> hey all. just bought a lenovo E320 and i'm trying to fix it so that the battery will last as long as possible. however the fan seems to be running all the time, no matter what i'm doing. powertop claims it's running at around 850rpm. is this number a lot or normal? and shouldn't the fan stop when the laptop is cold?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> tado: are there any bugs reported?
[20:37] <Glacia> is there any benefit to installing 10.04 LTS over 11.10?
[20:37] <newbee> hi i am having ptoblem installing ubuntu
[20:37] <tado> ActionParsnip: where do I look? I've googled around and there are complaints about other models making too much noise, while this is relatively silent, considering it's running...
[20:37] <newbee> can someone helo me please
[20:37] <newbee> the error is shown here
[20:37] <newbee> http://imgur.com/zZTqm
[20:38] <newbee> abyone?
[20:38] <newbee> anyone?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> newbee  your question being?
[20:39] <theva> whats the problem?
[20:39] <newbee> how to overcome this error
[20:39] <newbee> i atatched a pic
[20:39] <newbee> http://imgur.com/zZTqm
[20:39] <newbee> 'this pic shows the error
[20:39] <newbee> i am new to linux...but very interested
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> newbee  start from the beginning, what have you done and tried before you came here for advice
[20:39] <Sebastien> newbee did you see the logfile ?&
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> newbee: youo dont need to flood the channel, we saw
[20:39] <Sebastien> newbee did you see the logfile ? *
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> newbee: calm down
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> newbee: jese
[20:40] <Glacia> hi ActionParsnip
[20:40] <meerkats> what do I do if after tryingto update I get NO_PUBKEY AE6DFF70DAD80779 ?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> hi Glacia
[20:40] <sere> i have a computer w/ no net and want to set up a offline repo....how do i
[20:40] <newbee> i tried to install ubuntu using wubi
[20:40] <Glacia> ActionParsnip, how are you today
[20:40] <newbee> it is giving the error i sent
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> sere: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AE6DFF70DAD80779
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> newbee: I suggest you download and MD5 test the Ubuntu ISO, install magicdisk or daemontools, mount the ISO and install Wubi from there
[20:42] <pablo_> ciao
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> list
[20:42] <newbee> OK...my harkd disk is partitioned to be simple volumes...is this a problem?
[20:42] <Guest6045> lagbox: it works now. Thank you so much for your time. Months of putting up with this, and you get it straight in a few minutes, and a few tries. They should be paying you for this.
[20:42] <LjL> MonkeyDust: don't encourage them :(
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> sere: if you add the PPA with:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:address    you won't get that
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> LjL  sorry
[20:42] <pablo_> qualcuno mi puo aiutare non riesco a entrare nella chat di adunanza
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> newbee: doesn't matter, you will be installing to a file on your NTFS, so its fine
[20:43] <newbee> ok thanks
[20:43] <mllie> Is it possible to have several IdentityFile in ssh config?
[20:43] <newbee> let me try
[20:43] <LjL> !it | pablo_
[20:43] <Glacia> ActionParsnip, do you mind answering a quick and easy question?
[20:43] <lagbox> Guest6045, ??
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Glacia: sup?
[20:43] <Guest6045> lagbox: if you run into someone with this issue again. make sure to tell them to restart instead of a force restart.
[20:43] <Glacia> is there any benefit to installing 10.04 LTS over 11.10?
[20:43] <Guest6045> lagbox: stealth_creations. Dunno why it assigns me a new nickname everytime.
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Glacia: personally I'd always use the latest stable
[20:44] <Guest6045> anonymity I guess
[20:44] <Guest6045> lagbox: I had the sound issue on an Asus
[20:44] <patrikryd> Hi
[20:44] <patrikryd> Is there any way if undo an apt-get upgrade ?
[20:44] <Glacia> ActionParsnip, what does LTS do that a normal distro wont
[20:44] <patrikryd> s/if/of
[20:44] <trism> mllie: yes
[20:45] <mllie> trism: how?
[20:45] <lagbox> Guest6045, oh yea ... no problem man ... you can buy me a beer some time ... i wish i got paid for this stuff ... but alas .. i wouldn't have been able to get where i am without all the fine people that sit in irc chat rooms and help people
[20:45] <lagbox> ;)
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Glacia: longer support for one
[20:45] <Loshki> ActionParsnip: so, which release do you consider 'latest stable'?
[20:45] <lagbox> and i wouldn't ask for money
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Loshki: oneiric
[20:45] <meerkats> how do I wget this? http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xAE6DFF70DAD80779
[20:45] <meerkats> wget http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xAE6DFF70DAD80779 doesnt work
[20:45] <trism> mllie: what are you trying to do?
[20:46] <Loshki> ActionParsnip: not 10.04 LTS?
[20:46] <mllie> trism: trying to use 2 different keys to the same host..
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AE6DFF70DAD80779
[20:46] <mllie> trism: so it will try them both
[20:46] <theva> Do you all use the "new" menu-thing that comes with 11.10?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Loshki  11.10 is more recent than 11.04
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Loshki: that is also stable, but is LTS sowill outlive releases like Maverick and Natty
[20:46] <trism> mllie: then just specify both, the ssh_config manpage states it will try them in order
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> theva: I don't I use LXDE
[20:46] <Loshki> MonkeyDust: ActionParsnip: thanks...
[20:47] <iceroot> theva: you are talking about "unity"?
[20:47] <asdfoiu3> I actually messed up my unity trying to install touchegg drivers. and i was never able to recover it. can someone help me?
[20:47] <theva> iceroot, yes, the side-meu-bar
[20:47] <Guest6045> lagbox: no doubt, depending on where you are located, or if you want to make a trip, that beer could become a reality.
[20:47] <enormt> hi, I got a problem with dual monitors on ubuntu, with a dell xps 1530. The external monitor disappears when I log in. Does anyone know how I can resolve the problem?
[20:47] <mllie> trism: yeah, but it doesn't.. It just tries the first one
[20:48] <lagbox> Guest6045, sweet ... nj usa
[20:48] <mllie> trism: or maybe, the first one succeeds but gives me permission error
[20:48] <theva> ActionParsnip, That wasnt what I meant but it do look interesting, is that on 11.10?
[20:48] <mllie> trism: to a specific file
[20:48] <trism> mllie: I just tried it, it is working here (with ssh -v)
[20:48] <tado> ActionParsnip: if I paste bin outputs from thinkfan and from sensors, do you understand any of that?
[20:48] <mllie> trism: ah, ok. I'm doing this with github, it tells me permission denied to ...git file
[20:49] <lagbox> or just make a small donation to an open source project
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> theva: yes, lxde is available in the Oneiric repos
[20:49] <Guest6045> we aren't that far apart. tn usa here
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> tado: very little indeed
[20:49] <nancy--> how to see what processor is in the machine ?
[20:49] <Guest88074> ciao
[20:49] <tado> ActionParsnip: well thanks anyway :)
[20:50] <theva> ActionParsnip, I guess there is a reason why you dont use it but, is it good any way?
[20:50] <llutz> nancy--: grep model /proc/cpuinfo
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> nancy--  sudo dmidecode -s processor
[20:50] <kieppie> hi all - I'm having a lot of trouble trying to print to a network printer shared from a Mac on my network. I've added the device vie `system-config-printer`, but I'm unable to print
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> theva: I just like LXDE,been using it the last 3 or 4 releases
[20:50] <tado> is there anyone that understand how temperatures and the laptop fan work? mine seems to be constantly running...
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> theva: Unity is a love or hate deal dude
[20:51] <Jordan_U> kieppie: Do you have printer drivers for the printer in question? Are you able to print if you connect directly to the printer via USB (as a test)?
[20:51] <lagbox> tado, you might have your processor set at maximum speed
[20:51] <lagbox> tado get a cpu frequency scaling applet
[20:51] <Glacia> ActionParsnip, is there a comparison chart somewhere with the different feature of ubuntu distros
[20:51] <trism> mllie: could you post the error if it doesn't reveal any sensitive info?
[20:52] <theva> ActionParsnip, I hate it.. :P I have a netbook so the lxde might do some good for the performance I think, will try it out! :)
[20:52] <tado> lagbox: how can i check that? or edit it, for that sake... it seems like there are two temperatures that sensors receive that are keeping the fan on. can i try and pastebin the output for you?
[20:52] <iceroot> theva: to try lxde use "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[20:52] <nancy--> llutz,  MonkeyDust   iam on a vps and want to know what frequency i have
[20:52] <kieppie> Jordan_U: yea; I have the correct drivers & seems ok @ direct. but I'm consitering pushing it through some sort of tranlation layer - ie. ""generic printer
[20:52] <enr> !lista
[20:52] <theva> iceroot, thanks!
[20:52] <mllie> trism: ERROR: Permission to user/repo1.git denied to user/repo2
[20:53] <mllie> trism: the case here is that id_rsa is to repo1 (i guess it successfully logs in with that and THEN getting the permission error)
[20:53] <ninjai> I really need some help here... is there a way I can do some disk checks without using a live CD? like changing the run level or something? my OS is mounted R/O because of errors
[20:53] <lagbox> tado, are you using gnome or unity ?
[20:53] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: just for the record, the new unity with HUD looks awesome (and you know i am a big lxde fan)
[20:54] <tado> lagbox: unity, freshly installed on my new lenovo E320
[20:54] <mbeierl> ninjai, any check while mounted will only tell you there's an error, which you already know.  it cannot fix it while mounted, even RO
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: i like the lxde look. Unity is really OTT for me
[20:54] <lagbox> tado ... search the software center for cpu frequency ... and sometimes temperatures are not reported correctly
[20:54] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: you saw HUD?
[20:54] <trism> mllie: this seems relevant: http://help.github.com/ssh-issues/
[20:54] <Pici> !HUD
[20:55] <ninjai> mbeierl, how can I fix it?
[20:55] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: its a killerfeature (imo)
[20:55] <mbeierl> ninjai, unfortunately, it cannot fix itself.  so, you need another os (like a live cd) in order to repair a disk.  Do you have a second computer that you can put the hdd into?
[20:55] <lagbox> tado but i would imagine that the fans are controlled on the bios level not the OS level, but that is my assumption
[20:56] <ninjai> mbeierl, it's a VM :S
[20:56] <Glacia> wait what! the 12.04 is LTS?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: i use about 5 apps, most which I use in CLI :)
[20:56] <nancy--> llutz,  MonkeyDust     iam on a vps and want to know what frequency i have
[20:56] <RNAndyB> I am installing Ubuntu 11.10 to a secondary hard disk. I originally had a 500gb NTFS partition for extra windows storage. I have used gParted to resize that partition and made 100gb free/available. In the installer, I have selected "Something else" to configure custom partitions. I selected the available 100gb and have the option to format it to ext4. Will the installer take care of the swap partition in the 100gb or will i need to partition for that myself?
[20:56] <kieppie>  Jordan_U: @ the driver option, other than "text-only", what could I use? raw, PS, PCL 4/5/6 ?
[20:56] <iceroot> !wine | witchyta
[20:57] <iceroot> witchyta: lets use this channel instead of PM
[20:57] <mbeierl> ninjai, the disk with errors is a virtual disk, or physical then?
[20:57] <lagbox> RNAndyB, i would make another partition the size of your RAM and make that a swap
[20:57] <ninjai> mbeierl, virtual
[20:57] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ok but i think for normal users unity is on a good way
[20:58] <mbeierl> ninjai, ok, this holds hope then.  what os is the vm server on?
[20:58] <tado> lagbox: are they? it seems that with thinkfan i can edit when they should kick in, and that since 55 C is the temperature where it does start, the fact that sensors perceive a 57 out of what they check keeps it on all the time
[20:58] <Jordan_U> RNAndyB: Why did you select manual partitioning?
[20:58] <tado> lagbox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/816962/
[20:58] <ninjai> mbeierl, Windows Server 2008
[20:58] <RNAndyB> lagbox, Thank you. Will ubuntu automatically pick up this partition and use it for swap or do I need to tell it that this is the swap partition? Forgive my ignorance, I usually just use the full disk and let the installer do everything.
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: I guess. I don't think its up to much, a lot of work for the same output i can get in a fraction of the time
[20:59] <Jordan_U> kieppie: I don't know. What happens when you try to print via the default setup (through the network)?
[20:59] <lagbox> RNAndyB, i believe if you set it as a type linux-swap ... it will get picked up automaticly
[20:59] <RNAndyB> Jordan_U, I have personal files and music stored on the hard drive already. I dont want to use the full drive, just the 100gb I have made free.
[20:59] <mbeierl> ninjai, ok, so are you sure it's really just the virtual disk that is wrecked an not the physical windows disk?  ie: no windows errors or crunching, etc, when the vm starts up?
[20:59] <lagbox> RNAndyB, i am unfamiliar with letting the installer automaticly do that stuff
[20:59] <tado> lagbox: and this is thinkfan's output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/816973/
[20:59] <Jordan_U> RNAndyB: You should be able to use automatic partitioning and tell it to use all the free space.
[20:59] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: yes you are right, normally you need only 5 programs, x, terminator, gnome-terminal, zsh and vim :)
[21:00] <ninjai> mbeierl, yes... I just attempted a clone with virtualbox and then bam... errors on my virtual disk
[21:00] <Glacia> who here know about the monitor function in 11.10? when i rotate the screen in the display setting the mouse (stylus) doesnt conform
[21:00] <theva> wich default display manager shuld I choose for lxdm?
[21:00] <RNAndyB> Jordan_U, It may just not be clear but I am not seeing an option for this
[21:01] <Star_Light> hello. Is there any room for C programming?
[21:01] <Star_Light> thank you.
[21:01] <theadmin> Star_Light: ##c
[21:01] <mbeierl> ninjai, the next thing to try is to get the Ubuntu 11.10 iso, and add that iso as the cd device, and boot that
[21:01] <lagbox> tado,  looks like that does not provide fan control ... and i personaly would not mess with fan settings ... you may want to adjust the frequency of the cpu to bring the temperature down when you don't need performance
[21:01] <ninjai> mbeierl, already downloading it (it's so slow! :(, ~350kb/s)
[21:01] <Jordan_U> RNAndyB: Can you post a screenshot of the options available before you select manual partitioning?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | RNAndyB
[21:02] <tado> lagbox: alright... do you know what i should look for in the BIOS to avoid making a mess?
[21:02] <nancy--> how to see what ram is available?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: free -m
[21:02] <RNAndyB> Jordan_U, there is a list of all partitions, followed by "free space", if i select free space it gives me partitioning options but the "Install Now" button also becomes available. If I have the available space highlighed and click "install now" it will just use all available space?
[21:02] <nancy--> ActionParsnip,  no the total ram
[21:02] <lagbox> tado ... apparently it isn't at the bios level though .... is your processor running at full speed all the time ?
[21:02] <Glacia> ?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: total ram is the top left most value in that output
[21:03] <mbeierl> ninjai, ah, i see your dilemma now.  There are alternates, such as the sysrescuecd, which are much smaller: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: free ram is the 2nd value on the +/- Buffers line
[21:03] <nancy--> i have only 35 mb free on my vps
[21:03] <tado> lagbox: no. it's running at about 8%
[21:03] <Glacia> anyone?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: the value is in Mb, so if you have 3500 then its 3.5Gb
[21:04] <nancy--> i have only 35 mb free on my vps ActionParsnip  384 is total and 35 is free
[21:04] <mbeierl> !patience | Glacia
[21:04] <nancy--> ActionParsnip, ^
[21:04] <iceroot> nancy--: wrong
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: what does the system do?
[21:04] <jeagle> Slart_: Slart Slart are you there?
[21:04] <Jordan_U> RNAndyB: That sounds right to me. I'd need to see a screenshot to be completely sure.
[21:04] <Myr> A wget question in ubuntu: Say I wish to mirror a site. But the images used on this site are under a different subdomain. How would I grab those too?, ex: www.example.com and img.example.com
[21:04] <ninjai> mbeierl, I'm downloading that now
[21:04] <nancy--> ActionParsnip,   total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[21:04] <nancy--> Mem:           364        329         35          0         29        246
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: yeah, 364Mb total
[21:05] <lagbox> tado, interesting .. i would start going through the forums ... i would bet ibm has some good support for ubuntu and linux
[21:05] <nancy--> ActionParsnip,  its a vps . i just apt-get update and upgrade it.          its my first day
[21:05] <iceroot> nancy--: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/  pleaswe read that
[21:05] <mbeierl> ninjai, it also has fsck on it, so once booted, it should see your virtual disk as /dev/sda and you can run check and repair on it that way
[21:05] <RNAndyB> Jordan_U, one moment will take a screenshot
[21:05] <tado> lagbox: couldn't find much till now... but thanks for helping anyway
[21:06] <nancy--> ActionParsnip,  i think i need to panic now
[21:06] <lagbox> tado, sorry i don't know more about that ... good luck in the hunt
[21:06] <theadmin> Myr: I don't think wget will work for that. Try httrack, which is a website mirroring tool. It can handle such tasks, and more complex ones as well. Install "httrack" via APT for the CLI version or "webhttrack" for the GUI.
[21:06] <iceroot> nancy--: the short story is, the second line on free -m is important not the first line. the long story is the link i gave you
[21:06] <tado> lagbox: ;)
[21:06] <Myr> Hmm :/
[21:07] <Guest6045> I'm out, good luck to those needing help, not that it's needed in here, and a gracious thank you to those that are spending time in here to help
[21:07] <nancy--> how to install apache
[21:07] <ninjai> mbeierl, since you seem to know waht you're actually talking about more than I do, what is the proper way for me to get fsck to repair my disk?
[21:07] <slide> I have auto update packages on but I compiled one from source and it keeps getting replaced, is there a way to disable it for that one package?
[21:07] <iceroot> nancy--: sudo apt-get install apache2
[21:07] <lagbox> nancy--, apt-get install apache2
[21:08] <lagbox> oops ... sudo first
[21:08] <iceroot> nancy--: please dont host a public server if you dont know how to handle it
[21:08] <ninjai> also, mbeierl, to complicate things this has hard drvie encryption on it :S.
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> !pin | slide
[21:08] <slide> thanks
[21:08] <iceroot> nancy--: an open-mail-relay which is part of a botnet is often the result
[21:08] <nancy--> iceroot,  i bought one for me. to learn
[21:08] <iceroot> nancy--: a vm is just better then buying a server
[21:09] <nancy--> iceroot,  are there things i should know?
[21:09] <iceroot> nancy--: yes
[21:09] <iceroot> nancy--: dont host a public server if you dont know to how manage the server
[21:09] <mbeierl> ninjai, oooo.  I don't know as much about that, but I /think/ that might be ok, as it is the contents which are encrypted, but not the inode and filesystem structure.
[21:09] <nancy--> lagbox,  iceroot  should i install apache as root or  become another persone and then sudo apt-get install apache2?
[21:10] <RNAndyB> Jordan_U, Its a photo as the machine I am installing to is not networked, http://imagebin.org/195535
[21:10] <iceroot> nancy--: its the same
[21:10] <nancy--> iceroot,  how could i know if i dont manage
[21:10] <iceroot> nancy--: but please dont login as root, always use sudo
[21:10] <nancy--> iceroot,  so the creater will be root any way.
[21:10] <iceroot> nancy--: by learning in a local vm
[21:10] <ninjai> mbeierl, I would think that there would be a way to decrypt it before checking it, right? I think gparted allows for that
[21:10] <nancy--> iceroot,  hmm. i thought its the same thing.. sudoing or rooting ?
[21:10] <iceroot> [22:10]   iceroot | nancy--: its the same
[21:10] <nancy--> iceroot,  i have linux installed too
[21:11] <Jordan_U> RNAndyB: Go back one screen. That looks like you've already selected manual partitioning.
[21:11] <mbeierl> ninjai, unfortunately, I really do not know about encrypted volumes.
[21:11] <iceroot> nancy--: for the process its the same
[21:11] <nancy--> iceroot,  why not log as root then ?
[21:11] <iceroot> nancy--: but its not a good idea to have a root-shell all the time
[21:11] <ninjai> ok well I guess I'll see what happens...
[21:11] <iceroot> nancy--: normally because you will break your system by a wrong command
[21:11] <XDS2012> hi
[21:11] <nancy--> hm..
[21:12] <iceroot> nancy--: the following links from ubottu might be important
[21:12] <XDS2012> im not able to get online can someone help
[21:12] <nancy--> iceroot,  how to add a user ?
[21:12] <RNAndyB> Jordan_U, My options are then to install ubuntu alongside windows, replace windows or something else. I do not wish to install it side by side on the same drive. I wish to install ubuntu completely separate on the second drive
[21:12] <XDS2012> the wireless assistant doesn't add a default gateway
[21:12] <iceroot> !sudo › nancy--
[21:12] <iceroot> !sudo > nancy--
[21:12] <mbeierl> ninjai, stop.  do NOT run fsck on an encrypted volume
[21:12] <iceroot> !repos > nancy--
[21:12] <ninjai> mbeierl, ok
[21:12] <ninjai> mbeierl, http://tomsalmon.eu/2010/10/fsck-on-encrypted-aes-256-linux-ext3-partitions/
[21:12] <mbeierl> ninjai, or... continue the download, but don't run it nativelty
[21:13] <ninjai> mbeierl, I'm not I'm waiting for a live CD
[21:13] <ninjai> both downloads are slow :S
[21:13] <iceroot> nancy--: adduser
[21:13] <prashant_123456> which text editor is best vi or nano ?????
[21:13] <Pici> !best | prashant_123456
[21:13] <iceroot> prashant_123456: none of them
[21:13] <nancy--> iceroot,  adduser username group ?
[21:13] <iceroot> prashant_123456: the correct answer is "vim"
[21:13] <Jordan_U> RNAndyB: May I see a screenshot?
[21:13] <iceroot> nancy--: man adduser
[21:13] <theva> prashant_123456, I prefer qedit :P
[21:13] <mbeierl> ninjai, without having something to mount the encrypted volume from outside of itself, you cannot fix it.  and yes, that page you referenced is the correct procedure once you get another OS running to mount the encrypted drive
[21:14] <ablyss> i got gnome and ubuntu windows managers... which one do I choose
[21:14] <ninjai> mbeierl, ok thanks for letting me know
[21:14] <SpaceBass> fresh server install, new hardware, core i7, sad? but response seems very slow. Whats best way to benchmark?
[21:15] <nancy--> iceroot,  i did but it says the user " user " doesnot exists
[21:15] <prashant_123456> iceroot, vim is very complex
[21:15] <nancy--> iceroot,  i used      adduser name admin
[21:15] <pmicky> join /ubuntu-it
[21:15] <pmicky> join /#ubuntu-it
[21:16] <iceroot> nancy--: sudo adduser name -g admin
[21:16] <mbeierl> ninjai, wish I could have helped more.  There might be virtualbox helpers that can let you open the drive from under Windows, but then you'd also need the encryption software and a copy of fsck to do anything to the disk
[21:16] <cromag> /j #ubuntu-it
[21:16] <iceroot> nancy--: also see the help with "adduser --help" or "man adduser"
[21:16] <ninjai> mbeierl, I think I'll just stick with the easy way and boot up a live CD.  I also found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940904
[21:16] <RNAndyB> Jordan_U, may take just a moment, the installer appears to have crashed.
[21:16] <ninjai> I am using LVM, so this is probably better info
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-add-new-linux-user-account/
[21:17] <nancy--> iceroot,  model name      : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6128
[21:17] <nancy--> stepping        : 1
[21:17] <nancy--> cpu MHz         : 1999.999
[21:17] <nancy--> sory
[21:17] <DeaconF> I have an interview in 23 hours that covers a large portion of linux command line. Can anyone point me in the direction of beginner-intermediate walk-through tutorial? Something that will preferrably cover a portion of server commands, and such for hosting that is generally used in SSH?
[21:17] <nancy--> Option g is ambiguous (gecos, gid, group)
[21:17] <nancy-->          iceroot
[21:17] <nancy--> ActionParsnip,  thx
[21:18] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | nancy--
[21:18] <iceroot> !cli | DeaconF
[21:18] <mbeierl> ninjai, also good overview, but I think the first reference is simpler if you don't actually have an LVM set
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: if in doubt, try the web as well :)
[21:19] <ninjai> mbeierl, I know.  I don't know if the first reference will work with lvm or not :(
[21:19] <ninjai> I just need to unlock it
[21:19] <ninjai> blah
[21:20] <mbeierl> ninjai, do you have an lvm set on the virtual disk?
[21:20] <iceroot> prashant_123456: and also very powerfull
[21:20] <DeaconF> Thanks
[21:21] <ninjai> mbeierl, yes.
[21:22] <prashant_123456> iceroot, thanks
[21:22] <iceroot> prashant_123456: but i guess for a beginner its way to much
[21:24] <mbeierl> ninjai, then yes, the second procedure is required.  the first will not work
[21:24] <mithrop> hi here. I'm looking for "good practice" to install Java6 on my Ubuntu 64bits. I want JRE and JDK. I see this on the net : https://github.com/flexiondotorg/oab-java6 (given here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6) Con you confirm me it's a good way plz ? :)
[21:24] <pocata> people can not install a software package to help some
[21:24] <prashant_123456> iceroot, u r right
[21:24] <Stahlcity> anyone else here having Xchat closing while trying to use quakenet ???
[21:25] <iceroot> Stahlcity: maybe an exploit?
[21:25] <iceroot> Stahlcity: newest version from the repos?
[21:25] <pocata> people can not install a software package to help some?:)
[21:25] <iceroot> pocata: what?
[21:26] <iceroot> Stahlcity: lets use this chat
[21:26] <pocata> michael
[21:26] <Stahlcity> iceroot: kaay
[21:26] <ninjai> mbeierl, so it looks like within the first 3 commands if i run them on a live CD, I should have the disk unlocked and ready to fsck
[21:26] <ninjai> right?
[21:26] <pocata> Cheese 3.3.3
[21:26] <Stahlcity> iceroot: installed it from ubuntu softwarecenter
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> pocata: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install cheese
[21:26] <iceroot> Stahlcity: is that happening always?
[21:27] <Stahlcity> iceroot: it happens since a few days
[21:27] <pocata> but I do not give out the most recent version
[21:27] <iceroot> Stahlcity: only on quakenet? in a channel? or right after the connect to the network?
[21:28] <Stahlcity> iceroot: actually i am connected to freenode chatting with you - and - to quakenet
[21:28] <iceroot> Stahlcity: so its not happening at the moment
[21:28] <Stahlcity> iceroot: but as soon as i click the quakenet line _or_ i enter a channel on quakenet server - the xchat programm closes itself :(
[21:29] <nancy--> how much ram does ubuntu take if run without x?
[21:29] <pocata> ActionParsnip:  but I do not give out the most recent version
[21:29] <iceroot> Stahlcity: a specific channel? or does it happen on all chanels?
[21:29] <Stahlcity> iceroot: i don't want to click it right now, as xchat PROPABLY will close
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: very little by default
[21:29] <Stahlcity> iceroot: good question, i only tried one
[21:29] <iceroot> nancy--: depending on the programs you are using
[21:29] <mithrop> ok. forget my question ^^
[21:29] <nancy--> fresh install..
[21:29] <iceroot> nancy--: my system is using 123mb with x server, my debian lenny is using 30mb without x (without apache,mysql and so on)
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> pocata: what is new in the new version which you need?
[21:30] <nancy--> iceroot,  ya. i think same here. mine is using 30
[21:30] <Stahlcity> iceroot: i am using Xchat-GNOME 0.26.1 and lucid lynx LTS
[21:30] <pocata> projects.gnome.org/cheese/download
[21:30] <pocata> Cheese 3.3.3
[21:31] <nancy--> iceroot,  ActionParsnip  and with x . like kde .. how much will it use. fresh install ?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> pocata: yes, but why do you need it?
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: kde is quite big
[21:31] <guntbert> Stahlcity: I'd recommend using xchat instead of xchat-gnome anyway
[21:31] <nassosdim> iceroot, I installed XChat today from the repos and connected in quakenet fine
[21:31] <mbeierl> ninjai, from the looks of it, yes.  and don't forget: you're running the fsck on the decrypted device, not on the /dev/sda, or whatever, raw device :)
[21:31] <nancy--> ActionParsnip,  how much... or gnome?
[21:31] <iceroot> nancy--: please dont put kde on a vserver
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> nancy--: I'd go for LXDE or just openbox on its own for lightness
[21:32] <pocata> because there are more extras
[21:32] <nancy--> iceroot,  gnome ?
[21:32] <Stahlcity> nassosdim: i can connect to the quakenet server, but as soon as i start to enter a channel xchat closes
[21:32] <iceroot> nancy--: why a gui on a server?
[21:32] <nancy--> iceroot,  i wont. just asking
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> pocata: but does cheese work ok?
[21:32] <nassosdim> I also entered a channel
[21:32] <iceroot> nassosdim: also 10.04?
[21:32] <nassosdim> though I used the slash join command, dunno if it matters
[21:32] <nassosdim> nope, 11.10 :x
[21:32] <nassosdim> with gnome-shell
[21:32] <iceroot> !info xchat
[21:33] <iceroot> !info xchat lucid
[21:33] <ssta> nancy--: don't put a full GUI on a server.  It eats resources and (potentially) reduces stability.  It's almost never needed anyway
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> pocata: you still haven't answered why you NEED the newer version.
[21:33] <Stahlcity> nassosdim: same happens when i juse the slash join command
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> pocata: looks like you just see a newer version and WANT it rather than NEED it....
[21:33] <nancy--> hm
[21:33] <Stahlcity> !info xchat gnome
[21:33] <ninjai> mbeierl, I just booted up my VM again and it decided to mount read/write this time as if it found no errors =\.  Isn't there a way to schedule an fsck on reboot? I thought that my ubuntu desktop did that before, every so and so amount of mounts at boot it would force a check.
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> pocata: cheese is a simple app, the one in the repo will more than likely do what you need
[21:34] <guntbert> !info xchat-gnome > Stahlcity
[21:34] <Stahlcity> !info xchat-gnome
[21:34] <blah> anybody ever get Osx lion working in Vmware workstation?
[21:34] <iceroot> Stahlcity: can you start xchat from the shell to have some output
[21:34] <pocata> because there are more things
[21:34] <ninjai> mbeierl, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1901926
[21:34] <iceroot> Stahlcity: maybe there is also a debig/verbose mode, please check with xchat --help
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> pocata: like what?
[21:34] <lagbox> bbl
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> pocata: cheese just takes snaps and video from webcams, what more can it possibly do?
[21:35] <guntbert> blah: how is that an ubuntu support question?
[21:35] <Stahlcity> iceroot: shell says xchat is not installed ;-)
[21:35] <iceroot> Stahlcity: x-chat
[21:36] <iceroot> Stahlcity: or whatever the binary is called .)
[21:36] <pocata> but more extras for pics
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> pocata: how so?
[21:36] <guntbert> Stahlcity: xchat and xchat-gnome are different programs
[21:36] <Stahlcity> guntbert: okay. xchat is also with gui?
[21:37] <slide> ActionParsnip, so on that Pinning you told me about, how do I pin something when i installed it locally? It has no repository to change its priority
[21:37] <Jacruth> hello, I'm trying to use cmake and it says: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found ... I have gcc 4.6.1-9ubuntu3 installed.
[21:37] <Calinou> ...yes
[21:37] <guntbert> Stahlcity: yes, it is just not as restricted as xchat-gnome is
[21:37] <Calinou> Jacruth: ensure you have the dev versions of the dependencies
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> slide: you will need to make a deb of your effors, then pin the version
[21:37] <daveh_> Can someone please help me with Unity? I've been finding that when I log onto the system that Unity and the UI in general hasn't been loading properly. I've asked around on the forums and someone recommended I open terninal and run the command unity --reset and it's come out with a load of stuff I'm not sure about
[21:37] <pocata> but in each new version I've noticed that there are new things
[21:37] <slide> ActionParsnip, i have a deb, but as far as i can tell, pinning is per repo not per package
[21:38] <Stahlcity> guntbert: then i consider changing to xchat
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> pocata: maybe, but do you actually need them?
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> slide: its the version number of the package which you pin
[21:38] <Stahlcity> guntbert: thanks for pointing me to xchat
[21:38] <pocata> yes
[21:38] <guntbert> Stahlcity: do it, you won't regret  - you're welcome :-)
[21:38] <Stahlcity> guntbert: thanks!
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> pocata: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:39] <lokodomain> MSG <nick> help
[21:39] <Ace__> irc.jsdev.me
[21:40] <daveh_> Anyone?!
[21:41] <pocata> yes
[21:41] <Jacruth> Hi there, do you know how could I install the GLIBCXX_3.4.15 dev version?
[21:42] <mbeierl> ninjai, is it possible that the fsck that found the errors first time around was trying to check the raw device (which is encrypted, therefore "corrupt") ?
[21:42] <ninjai> mbeierl, I don't think so.  The LVM is decrypted at the bootloader
[21:42] <ninjai> grub
[21:42] <Jacruth> I can't find glib 3 in synaptics, I only see libglib2.0-dev
[21:43] <jeremiah_> how would you install minecraft in lubuntu
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: server or client?
[21:43] <Ace__> yo
[21:43] <mbeierl> ninjai, very odd.  So did you try "sudo touch /forcefsck" and reboot to see if that does it?
[21:44] <Ace__> sudo /server irc.jsdev.me
[21:44] <jeremiah_> what?
[21:44] <ninjai> mbeierl, no, it decided to boot fine this time.  Since this is a pretty important server, I'm just going to install the newest server OS on a different VM and copy all the data to it and conifure it.  Should be... fun /s
[21:45] <jeremiah_> I got a free version from someone.(I know he pirated it.) so i don't know
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: you can install the server app and run a minecraft server for people to connect to, or do you want to run the client to connect to servers.
[21:45] <nyl> has anyone managed to get nvidia driver to work
[21:45] <nyl> for nvidia gt 540m
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> nyl: try the xorg edgers update ppa, may get better results with the later driver
[21:45] <jeremiah_> I don't want to connect to a server. I just want to play it.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: ok let me search
[21:46] <jdavis> I have some iptables rules to do port forwarding, but they don't seem to be working. The rule to rewrite the destination looks correct, but I guess either the other rule is wrong or ubuntu is blocking port forwarding. How do I see if ubuntu is blocking port forwarding?
[21:46] <Stahlcity> guntbert: hmmm. i was starting x-chat gnome form shell and got this error: GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion 'string != Null'failed
[21:46] <Vooloo> jeremiah_: install java and run it
[21:46] <jeremiah_> ok
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT2pDyKW3wg
[21:46] <mbeierl> ninjai, prolly a Good Idea (tm).  good luck!
[21:46] <jeremiah_> it says it is install but i don't know how to run it.
[21:47] <nancy--> i have added a user but its home directory is not made..        why is that?
[21:47] <ninjai> mbeierl, thanks!
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: java /path/to/filename    and it will run
[21:47] <theadmin> nancy--: Seems you added a system user. Bad idea.
[21:47] <nancy--> theadmin,  aa... how do  you know that
[21:47] <jeremiah_> i terminal?
[21:47] <ssta> nancy--: did you use useradd?  adduser creates the home directory, useradd just creates the user
[21:47] <jeremiah_> in terminal
[21:47] <jeremiah_> ?
[21:48] <Stahlcity> iceroot: (xchat-gnome:4079): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strsplit: assertion `string != NULL' failed ???
[21:48] <iceroot> Stahlcity: can you open a bug please
[21:48] <nancy--> ssta,  oh. ok
[21:48] <Stahlcity> iceroot: if you tell me HOW
[21:48] <iceroot> !bug | Stahlcity
[21:49] <iceroot> Stahlcity: ubuntu-bug xchat-nome
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> pocata: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc      thanks
[21:49] <iceroot> Stahlcity: describe there that you can reproduce that on quakenet but not on freenode
[21:49] <nyl> overall i'm kinda screwed
[21:49] <Stahlcity> iceroot: wow. that was easy !!
[21:50] <iceroot> Stahlcity: its always a good idea to open a bug to get the problems fixed
[21:51] <Stahlcity> iceroot: i think it started just some days ago. i am doing updates very often (as soon as they are available from ubuntu)
[21:51] <kyan> Hi, this isn't really on topic but is anyone willing to talk me through setting up the proprietary Adobe Flash plugin?
[21:51] <iceroot> Stahlcity: that is also an important info you should append to the bug
[21:51] <Glacia> does anyone know where the conf file for the digitizer or mouse is?
[21:51] <iceroot> kyan: setting up like?
[21:51] <OerHeks> nyl  nvidia gt 540m is this a Optimus card ?
[21:52] <aBound> kyan, The software center has the flash plugin.
[21:52] <nyl> i think so
[21:52] <iceroot> !flash | kyan
[21:52] <kyan> iceroot, installation and configuration.
[21:52] <iceroot> kyan: no need for configuration
[21:52] <Geodesical> Hello. I am wondering how to update my Ubuntu OS from Jaunty Jackalope to the newest OS.
[21:52] <Stahlcity> iceroot: one question - i used your "ubuntu-bug xchat-gnome" command - but i cant attach a text there? it does something and all i can do is - send it
[21:52] <iceroot> !eol | Geodesical (last link)
[21:53] <Geodesical> Thank You!
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: nice catch
[21:53] <iceroot> Stahlcity: it will redirect you on launchpad, there you have to set a subject and then a description
[21:53] <kyan> aBound, I don't have the software center installed because I couldn't figure out how to use it. The version from synaptic didn't seem to work either. I used flash-aid to install it but all I get is a black box.
[21:53] <nyl> OerHeks i know for sure since i've heard people say that gt 540m is Optimus card
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> nyl: where you have an intel GPU and an Nvidia one too..?
[21:53] <aBound> kyan, Which version of Ubuntu are you currently using?
[21:53] <iceroot> kyan: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:53] <kyan> aBound, 10.10
[21:53] <OerHeks> nyl look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee and https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee
[21:53] <Stahlcity> iceroot: stupid me - didnt see the firefox window...
[21:54] <iceroot> Stahlcity: no problem :)
[21:54] <kyan> iceroot: Ok, installing…
[21:54] <meerkats> my update manager has been lagging for 15 minutes with this message: Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[21:54] <meerkats> Preconfiguring packages
[21:54] <aBound> kyan, Looks like he fixed your problem. :P
[21:54] <meerkats> how long can it last? is it normal?
[21:54] <Geodesical> Could I update directly from Jaunty Jackalope to Precise Pangolin or would I need a go-between?
[21:54] <iceroot> Geodesical: no you cant
[21:55] <iceroot> Geodesical: and 12.04 is not stable
[21:55] <kidrock> hello, I am looking for a program to format/delete a file multiple times (up to 20) for ubuntu.
[21:55] <theadmin> Geodesical: You can't do direct upgrades with Ubuntu, you have to go through all the releases or reinstall
[21:55] <kidrock> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[21:55] <iceroot> Geodesical: normally you want 11.10 and not 12.04
[21:55] <aBound> Geodesical, Precise Pangolin is still in a Alpha Release.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> kyan: if you have 64bit ubuntu, you will get 32bit flash that way. if you enable partner repo and install adobe-installer you will get 64bit flash
[21:55] <theadmin> kidrock: shred -n20 filename
[21:55] <kyan> aBound, well, just because it's installing doesn't mean it's going to work.
[21:55] <kidrock> thanks
[21:55] <nyl> OerHeks gonna try that to see if i get results
[21:55] <OerHeks> meerkats use alt + tab to see if there is a hidden dialog-window
[21:55] <kyan> ActionParsnip, I have 32bit ubuntu on a 32 bit machine :-)
[21:55] <iceroot> Geodesical: but if you want 12.04 you can go to 10.04 and then directly to 12.04 because both are lts
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> kidrock: why delete a file 20 times?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> kyan: then its fine ;)
[21:55] <aBound> kyan, It should more or less. :P
[21:55] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Getting rid of some very private info probably.
[21:56] <Geodesical> So would I have to build through Karmic Koala to get to The newest OS?
[21:56] <kidrock> ActionParsnip: well, format 20  times, to make sure all data is erased.
[21:56] <kyan> aBound, it didn't last time I tried it :-D ???
[21:56] <iceroot> theadmin: kidrock you only need one overwrite
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> kidrock: if you overwrite the data once, its enough
[21:56] <kidrock> iceroot: yes I realize that, but that wouldn't be as fun/pointless.
[21:56] <ssta> format doesn't overwrite (most of) the data
[21:57] <kidrock> ssta: then what will?
[21:57] <iceroot> format is not overwriting any data
[21:57] <aBound> kyan, When using apt-get or the software center it usually installs flawlessly. But than again I can't say much for 10.10.
[21:57] <kyan> aBound, iceroot: it's installed now. Restarting firefox…
[21:57] <ssta> copy /dev/zero to it
[21:57] <meerkats> OerHeks, you were right, does alt-tab work on fallback too?
[21:57] <iceroot> only killing the partition-layout/filesystem-layout
[21:57] <nyl> i own a ASUS K93S
[21:57] <kyan> aBound: Ok…
[21:57] <OerHeks> meerkats, i am not sure, this method helped me a lot.
[21:58] <kyan> aBound, I have audio but just a pink patch where the video should be.
[21:59] <OerHeks> nyl i don't own a Optimus, you may find more spec help in #Bumblebee here on freenode
[21:59] <kyan> aBound, the flash test page works fine.
[21:59] <Stahlcity> iceroot: cant sign in :(
[21:59] <aBound> kyan, What site you viewing for flash clips?
[21:59] <nancy--> root@localhost:/# /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd start
[21:59] <nancy--> bash: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory
[21:59] <nancy--> root@localhost:/# service httpd start
[21:59] <nancy--> httpd: unrecognized service
[22:00] <aBound> kyan, Check to see if the flash plugin is installed in firefox in the web address bar type: about:plugins
[22:00] <Geodesical> Would I need to download 9.10 , 10.04LTS, etc to get to Oneiric Ocelot?
[22:00] <ssta> nancy--: httpd is what redhat calls it, try apache (or apache2 more likely)
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> nyl: yep its optimus
[22:00] <ssta> nancy--: and use a pastebin please
[22:00] <kyan> aBound: Hmm, two versions are listed, 11.1 and 11.2
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> nyl: nvidia have refused to support optimus on anything but Windows
[22:00] <nyl> ActionParsnip: i guess that's the fix :D
[22:00] <iceroot> Stahlcity: you have a launchpad account?
[22:01] <aBound> kyan, Is any plugin like Gnash installed?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> nyl: it causes a lot of issues, there is a software called bumblebee but its farFAR from perfect
[22:01] <Stahlcity> iceroot: nope. but finally i think i got the email
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> nyl: personally I am going to be avoiding the whole optimus mess
[22:01] <nyl> ActionParsnip: nVidia should never leave opensource behind lol
[22:01] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, true, but 3.0 is out, sounds prommising
[22:01] <Geodesical> Would I need to download 9.10 , 10.04LTS, etc to get to Oneiric Ocelot from 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope?
[22:01] <aBound> kyan, Gnash might conflict with Flash Player and thus preventing flash from playing because the default plugin is Gnash.
[22:02] <kyan> aBound, the only two listed plugins associated with 'swf' are both libflashplayer.so
[22:02] <kyan> aBound: No Gnash.
[22:02] <ssta> Geodesical: probably.  Backing up the data and reinstalling from scratch would be a lot easier/less error prone.  Ubuntu don't put nearly the effort into upgrade path that say Debian do
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: 3,0 of what>
[22:02] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, bumblebee
[22:03] <su> hi
[22:03] <su> I was redirected here
[22:03] <su> so i'll justpaste
[22:03] <nphase> so the ubuntu version of php didnt have the right flags i needed, so i had to rebuild it and the manually dpkg -i the new packages that were rebuilt. now though, when I want to install something completely unrelated with apt-get i get "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." complaining about the other versions
[22:03] <nphase> is there any way i can ignore without fixing?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: I still wouldn't touch it, if they aren't going to support my OS, they don't get my money, simple
[22:03] <kyan> aBound: Ah, Gnash is listed in synaptic. I'll purge it…
[22:03] <su> su> hi
 I just installed oneiric
 and I can't install ati proprietary drivers
 I get this
 http://pastebin.com/UifSRSQg
[22:03] <FloodBot1> su: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 can anyone give me a hint?
[22:03] <Geodesical> ssta: So... would that be a complete dump to GRUB legacy?
[22:04] <aBound> kyan, In Applications click on Ubuntu Software Center and in the top right search box type: Flash
[22:04] <aBound> To see if it's installed.
[22:04] <ssta> Geodesical: well, most of your data that you canre about is probably in /home, right?
[22:04] <ssta> s/canre/care/
[22:04] <BarkingFish> now now, floodbots, behave and don't fight over the toys :)
[22:04] <BarkingFish> lol
[22:05] <aBound> kyan, http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/764455
[22:05] <mBison> i was wondering, was there a sticker of the Ubuntu logo to put over the windows key (Super Key)?
[22:05] <Geodesical> Oh, I have nothing on this. I picked up at a college auction so theres nothing at all on here.
[22:05] <ssta> Geodesical: oh, in that case just wipe and clean install then imo
[22:05] <Geodesical> What is imo?
[22:06] <su> hi, i'm running xubuntu oneiric and cant install proprietary drivers of graphic card...
[22:06] <ssta> Geodesical: if you try to upgrade you might be fine, but you might be buying a whole heap of effort
[22:06] <ssta> Geodesical: in my opinion
[22:06] <jeagle> geodescialin my opinion
[22:06] <OerHeks> mBison yes, http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718
[22:06] <mBison> su: what is your graphic card?
[22:07] <su> ati radeon mobility
[22:07] <OerHeks> mBison, but look closely >> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=800
[22:07] <mBison> ok
[22:07] <Geodesical> ssta: Oh. would I need to restart, go into recovery mode and use the bootloader to do that or is it a menu option?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> su: for what video chip?
[22:08] <tristan3199> hi i recently switched nautilus for dolphin, want to keep both in tackt but with dolphin default.. all went well except i cant get trash to open using dolphin. where might i find the file where the config for trash and "my computer" icons..
[22:09] <ssta> Geodesical: no, download a CD, boot from it, and when it asks, say "wipe existing and install fresh" (or whatever gthe wording is)
[22:09] <ssta> Geodesical: if you have no data on there you want, it's the cleanest and simplest way
[22:10] <Geodesical> ssta: an official Ubuntu CD or just a cd-rom?
[22:10] <nyl> ActionParsnip: seems legit, i get transparent bar on gnome3
[22:10] <Boudy> Does somebody know about pysdm ?
[22:10] <mBison> is there a channel just for 11.10?
[22:10] <ssta> Geodesical: umm, download from the website and write to whatever you have
[22:10] <tristan3199> mBison: if so it would be empty..
[22:10] <mBison> lol, why i love it
[22:10] <nyl> mBison uMAD?
[22:11] <ssta> mBison: feel free to start one :)
[22:11] <nyl> i hate unity
[22:11] <nyl> xD
[22:11] <aBound> nyl, I love it :P
[22:11] <aBound> lol
[22:11] <Geodesical> ssta: Ok, Thank you.
[22:11] <nphase> so the ubuntu version of php didnt have the right flags i needed, so i had to rebuild it and the manually dpkg -i the new packages that were rebuilt. now though, when I want to install something completely unrelated with apt-get i get "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." complaining about the other versions. is there any way i can install that other unrelated package without disturbing these unrelat
[22:11] <nphase> dependencies?
[22:11] <tristan3199> aBound: what do you love about it??
[22:11] <ssta> nyl: it's marmite, most people either hate it or love it.  Discussions about hating it or loving it belong in #ubuntu-offtopic though probably
[22:11] <ParkerR> ActionParsnip, this is why I like burg http://i.imgur.com/5bkSV.jpg
[22:11] <jeagle> quick bash scripting question... How do I add a $var + 1? I have $newVar=$(($var + 1))
[22:12] <cheezygirl> #blabla
[22:12] <tristan3199> anybody know where to find the configurations for my desktop icons [the built in system icons, such as trash and my computer] so i can allow them to open with dolphin
[22:12] <ssta> jeagle: remove the $ from $newVar: newVar=$(($var+1))
[22:12] <aBound> tristan3199, Simplifies things, I can add apps to the launcher, the icons can be customized, I can autohide unity it's simple and basic. No need for complications. :P
[22:13] <zhownx> hi, I use oneiric... and want to use ubuntu one... but when I want to register, I cant click the 'Join now' button... any idea?
[22:13] <cheezygirl> #france
[22:13] <aBound> tristan3199, With the compiz plugin makes life even better.
[22:13] <ssta> jeagle: export var=10; export newvar=$(($var+1)); echo $newvar
[22:13] <aBound> hehe
[22:13] <cheezygirl> ro j'y comprend rien moi a irc ...
[22:13] <ssta> export optional if it's in a script
[22:13] <auronandace> !fr | cheezygirl
[22:14] <cheezygirl> join # blabla
[22:14] <cheezygirl> join #blabla
[22:14] <cheezygirl> fuck !
[22:14] <FloodBot1> cheezygirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <aBound> What the.
[22:14] <tristan3199> aBound: cool, i messed around with it, but ended up preffering classic gnome. i do like that i can find my apps alot quicker.. but other than that it just seemed limited..
[22:14] <fishscene> cheezygirl: /join #blabla
[22:15] <mBison> Nah or Yah for Ubuntu Unity 11.10:
[22:15] <mBison> Yah
[22:15] <cheezygirl> yes thank ( -_-' )
[22:15] <auronandace> !poll | mBison
[22:16] <ParkerR> Wow I'm actually not hating the new Software-center :D
[22:16] <aBound> tristan3199, Fallback Gnome?
[22:16] <ssta> mBison: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, where I will be happy to meet your love of unity with my hatred of it and we can have fun arguing about it :)
[22:16] <tristan3199> does anybody know where i might find configuration files that would allow me to change how My Computer and Trash Open.. there has to be something somewhere i just dont know exactly where to look..
[22:16] <aBound> tristan3199, Might wanna check out the app called Synapse.
[22:16] <tristan3199> aBound: hehe yeah..
[22:17] <tristan3199> aBound: will do
[22:17] <aBound> :P
[22:17] <aBound> Synapse is just an alternative to Gnome DO.
[22:17] <tristan3199> installing now
[22:18] <aBound> :)
[22:18] <tristan3199> aBound: thanks btw
[22:18] <devilek> Hi !
[22:18] <aBound> tristan3199, No problem.
[22:18] <krysits> free node.js
[22:18] <Anonixia> why does install guess additions not open
[22:19] <tristan3199> aBound: i like it.. good pointer..
[22:20] <aBound> :P
[22:20] <tristan3199> i spose i could remove the applications menu and replace it with synapse now..
[22:20] <aBound> tristan3199, A few plugins can be installed to but once you installed the plugin you have to log out and log back in to use it.
[22:21] <tristan3199> does anyone know where the config files for the default desktop icons would be located..
[22:21] <dagerik> Ubuntu one is taking a very long time to sync. What could cause this unwanted behavior?
[22:21] <aBound> Hmm, there's no way I can keep my terminal shell to stay open with the shell size as 132x42 eh?
[22:22] <aBound> dagerik, Could be maintenance that they might be doing on there side.
[22:22] <tristan3199> i can use configuration editor to turn them on and off.. so where ever it changes those settings i want to edit them manually
[22:23] <tristan3199> is there a way i could open them in a terminal and watch for output to see what files its accessing to make those changess
[22:24] <Tellmarch> so, i have a hard drive in which ubuntu was installed (but won't boot anymore), and i want to get back the content of my home folder. I can mount the hard drive, but /home was encrypted. how to copy it?
[22:25] <aBound> brb
[22:25] <tristan3199> Tellmarch: what does it do when it boots?
[22:25] <Tellmarch> the system is entirely broken, i mount it on another PC
[22:25] <SpaceBass> whats the preferred CLI benchmarking tool?
[22:25] <Tellmarch> i know the user password, is that enough to recover the encrypted data?
[22:25] <meerkats> in etc/apt I have a sources.list.save alongside my sources.list, should I get rid of it?
[22:26] <tristan3199> Tellmarch: i belive the system makes a 'key' that is stored somewhere and it uses that key to open the files..
[22:26] <ssta> Tellmarch: no idea whether these instrctions work, I haven't tried them.  Look at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/
[22:26] <tristan3199> Tellmarch: via keyring
[22:26] <jeremiah_> how do i install java on lubuntu? none of the instructions on the web work
[22:27] <Tellmarch> ssta, ok, i was thinking about a chroot too..
[22:27] <tristan3199> does anyone know anything about Desktop Icons
[22:28] <Tellmarch> yeah, that looks good, i'll try this, thanks for the help
[22:28] <tristan3199> i want to make trash open in dolphin instead of nautilus, and My computer as well.
[22:29] <aBound> Back.
[22:29] <jeremiah_> can someone help???
[22:29] <tristan3199> also when i make a link to my computer using dolphin it doesnt show any drives..
[22:30] <tristan3199> any advice??
[22:30] <goretoxo> \j #bitcoin-otc
[22:30] <aBound> All that dang time it was in the settings.
[22:30] <urlin2u> goretoxo, /
[22:30] <jeremiah_> hello?
[22:31] <tristan3199> is there a way to get "configuration editor" open in a terminal allowing me to see what it files is accually changing?
[22:31] <aeon-ltd> !java | jeremiah_
[22:31] <tristan3199> files it*
[22:31] <nancy--> how to get out of vi without making changes ?
[22:31] <jeremiah_> that did not help me.
[22:32] <Geodesical> Does anyon have a link to Ubunto Oneiric Ocelot download page?
[22:32] <ssta> nancy--: <escape>q!
[22:32] <nasnjbnsjb> :q!
[22:32] <DeaconF> what do you mean 'install java'?
[22:32] <ssta> umm, yeah, I forgot the :, sorry
[22:32] <ssta> my fingers remember it :)
[22:33] <dlentz> tristan3199, i know where the trash setting is for gnome2 in gconf, but i can't find the similar gnome3 setting in dconf
[22:33] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, what is it you're wanting to do?
[22:33] <fishscene> Geodesical: A google search resulted in this:
[22:33] <jeremiah_> install java
[22:33] <fishscene> copypasta failed.... http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/
[22:33] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, what do you mean, install java?
[22:33] <tristan3199> dlents: thank you.. could you point out that file for me.. ill snoop around and see if it gets me any closer to my goal.
[22:33] <Geodesical> fishscene: Thank you
[22:34] <urlin2u> Geodesical, it is at the min ubuntu site
[22:34] <urlin2u> main*
[22:34] <nancy--> ssta,  not working
[22:34] <dlentz> the command is dconf-editor (install that package)
[22:34] <ssta> nancy--: <escape>:q!
[22:34] <ssta> nancy--: should work.  Are you sure you're in vi?
[22:34] <jeremiah_> when i get java, i have to run or install it. now when something tells me to open java how do i even do that
[22:34] <nancy--> sskalnik,  yes
[22:34] <ssta> nancy--: what happens when you try?
[22:35] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, are you meaning web applications, basically?
[22:35] <nancy--> sskalnik,  hold escape and pres q ?
[22:35] <jeremiah_> i have a java policy to but that is useless
[22:35] <dlentz> oh, and you should not run dconf-editor as root/sudo
[22:35] <ssta> nancy--: no, press escape, then press :, then press q then press !
[22:35] <kyan> aBound, iceroot, I had 4 flash plugins installed: http://pastebin.com/aVMcG3iR . I deleted all of them except the flashplugin-installer one. I still don't get anything except a pink blotch on Youtube, but flash test pages work.
[22:35] <jeremiah_> If i get minecraft, i have to open it in java. how do i do that
[22:35] <tristan3199> dlentz: sudo apt-get install dcong-editor??
[22:36] <Geodesical> urlin2u: Thank you. Btw do you know if Oneiric comes with an Adobe Flash player?
[22:36] <Wargasm> whats the difference between su, gksu, and sudo?
[22:36] <tristan3199> dconf-editor sorry for typo
[22:36] <jeremiah_> and it says i have java runtime environment
[22:36] <hazamonzo_> HEy folks. Why might dbus-daemon be using a whole core (100% on a single core) when firefox is loaded?
[22:36] <DeaconF> You've been to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre?
[22:36] <jeremiah_> and jdk
[22:36] <dlentz> yes
[22:36] <tristan3199> unable to locate package dconf-editor
[22:36] <nancy--> ssta,  :^[q!
[22:36] <nancy--> E492: Not an editor command: ^[q!
[22:36] <dlentz> what version of ubuntu is it?
[22:37] <tristan3199> 11.10
[22:37] <ssta> nancy--: escape first, then :
[22:37] <dlentz> my bad, it's dconf-tools
[22:37] <urlin2u> Geodesical, nope just install it, you can look for a restricted-extras package that has the desktop included in that such a ubuntu-restricted-extras it is in that set of codecs
[22:37] <aBound> kyan, I would say uninstall flash player and from within Software Center install Ubuntu Restricted Extras if you haven't installed it already.
[22:37] <ssta> or skip escape altogether, it's just to get you out of insert mode
[22:37] <tristan3199> sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[22:37] <ssta> nancy--: are you sure you're sure that you're in vi?
[22:38] <aBound> kyan, You can also try this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[22:38] <nancy--> ssta,  ya. it works
[22:38] <dlentz> yes
[22:38] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, Java mostly runs through a browser plugin and JRE. Do you have the browser plugins?
[22:38] <nancy--> ssta,  what works every where. nano or vi ?
[22:38] <Geodesical> urlin2u: Ok thanks; it's not really a problem, I'm sure Adobe.com has a Flash Player for it.
[22:38] <tristan3199> dlentz: how do i launch it?
[22:38] <fission6> whats the difference between /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/
[22:38] <dlentz> dconf-editor in terminal
[22:38] <jeremiah_> like what kind of plugin?
[22:38] <fission6> why would i copy a util to one or another?
[22:38] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[22:39] <DeaconF> Go there^
[22:39] <dlentz> fission6, bin is for executables?
[22:39] <ssta> nancy--: oh, vi is completely ubiquitous.  I don't think I've *ever* come across any unix system it wasn't installed on (except for the occasional phone).  If you're going to use vi though, might I suggest thatyou run vimtutor?
[22:39] <urlin2u> Geodesical, no problem you will probably want and be best with the extras package, just from exsperience.
[22:39] <phatJoe> whadaaaaap... where am i?
[22:39] <fission6> dlentz: no /usr/local/bin vs /usr/bin
[22:39] <DeaconF> If you have the download, it's only a question of then installing the download.
[22:39] <kyan> aBound: I'll purge flashplugin-install… I tried flash-aid but it didn't work.
[22:39] <fission6> dlentz: whats the diff
[22:39] <ssta> nancy--: however, nano is a LOT easier to use if you don't spend your entire life in a terminal editor
[22:40] <area51pilot> whats the channel to reset Nickserv password
[22:40] <dlentz> if you're installing something in /usr/bin, ti should definitely be from a .deb, and i believe /usr/local/bin has precedence
[22:40] <howlymowly> hi poeple... i got a short question:
[22:40] <howlymowly> my knetworkmanager isn#t wrking at all for the wifi networks i need to access (eduroam, anroid tethering)
[22:40] <howlymowly> so.. I want to use the old nm-applet from gnome.. but can not find it.. any idea?
[22:40] <aBound> kyan, I would say you could also try upgrading Firefox if you don't have the latest version.
[22:40] <ssta> fission6: /usr/local/bin is for stuff YOU install (say by compiling from source), /usr/bin is for stuff installed from packages (simplified, but close enough)
[22:40] <howlymowly> or help :)?
[22:41] <jeremiah_> nothing there for linux
[22:41] <scarleo> fission6, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[22:41] <aBound> kyan, By the way if you use an alternative web browser check to see if Flash works in the other browser.
[22:41] <kyan> aBound: I have 9.01 but I don't know if that's the latest.
[22:41] <fission6> ssta: that works for me
[22:41] <area51pilot> #nickserv
[22:41] <aBound> 9.0.1. Yes is the latest.
[22:41] <fission6> ssta: so i just build from source a command line tool, i should symlink it in /usr/local/bin/
[22:41] <kyan> aBound: Chromium gives a "missing plugin" error; Chrome (with bundled flash) works fine.
[22:42] <jeremiah_> all of it is for windows.
[22:42] <tristan3199> dlentz: do you know where to find that entry in config-editor
[22:42] <aBound> kyan, Sounds like something is conflicting with Firefox.
[22:42] <aBound> If Chrome works.
[22:42] <ssta> fission6: depends whether you want it available systemwide or not.  Personally I have a ${HOME}/bin and I put a lot of stuff I write myself in there.  Basically everyone has different tastes and needs
[22:42] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, go here, click the first and second links in the main document to download those two files. Install them via the terminal. Restart FX (if you use that).
[22:42] <nancy--> where is the config file of apache to change max execution time ?
[22:42] <DeaconF> er
[22:42] <dlentz> tristan, i can't find one, as i said, i know where it is for gnome2 (which uses gconf)
[22:42] <kyan> aBound: Ubuntu restricted extras is already installed. I used aptitude to reinstall it but I think it's just a metapackage (only 6k)
[22:43] <DeaconF> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[22:43] <iceroot> nancy--: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf or /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[22:43] <fission6> cool. i think ill just symlink it form /usr/local/bin to the build directory /bin
[22:43] <iceroot> nancy--: i always forgot which of them is the correct one
[22:43] <jeremiah_> i am knew i do not know how to make commands for the terminal
[22:43] <kyan> aBound: Now there is no flash plugin listed in firefox.
[22:44] <jeremiah_> and download?
[22:44] <dlentz> the gconf key is /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/trash/command
[22:44] <nancy--> iceroot,  there are both. but none has max execution limit
[22:44] <iceroot> nancy--: you are talking about php?
[22:44] <itoast> HEy
[22:44] <itoast> Hey*
[22:44] <kyan> aBound, And I get a missing plugin error on the flash test page.
[22:44] <itoast> Whats that youtube downloader tool wrote in pythoin
[22:44] <itoast> I was told about it before.
[22:45] <aBound> kyan, Are you using any plugins for firefox perhaps you can disable them like NoScript might conflict with Flash.
[22:45] <itoast> Python*
[22:45] <iceroot> nancy--: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[22:45] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, been there... Basically, download the first two links from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java, those will go into your download folder.
[22:45] <printeso1> quit
[22:45] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, give me a second to find the terminal commands to install, I don't remember them off the top of my head
[22:46] <jeremiah_> ok
[22:46] <aBound> kyan, My best guess is flash is broken in 10.10 but that's just me.
[22:46] <kyan> aBound: I have for plugins: DivX Browser Plugin, DivX Web Player, Google Talk, Google Talk Plugin Video Accelerator, IcedTea, iTunes Application Detector, gecko-mediaplayer, QuickTime, RealPlayer, VLC, and Windows Media Player 10. For extensions, I have Adblock plus, DownloadHelper, DownThemAll, Firebug, Status-4-Evar, and Stylish.
[22:47] <kyan> aBound, I'd expect people to grumble more then. :-P
[22:47] <ssta> aBound: flash works fine for me
[22:47] <kyan> aBound: Would that be an issue with the kernel version or what?
[22:47] <nancy--> iceroot,  how to cashe search any software ? apt-get ...
[22:47] <phatJoe> how secure is ubuntu? compared to win7
[22:47] <kyan> ssta, is that in 10.10?
[22:47] <aBound> ssta, Works fine for me too but I'm on 11.10.
[22:47] <iceroot> nancy--: apt-cache search searchstring
[22:47] <jeremiah_> it says Package 'icedtea6-plugin' is already installed
[22:47] <urlin2u> phatJoe, that is not a channel question.
[22:48] <jeremiah_> and also Package 'openjdk-6-jre' is already installed
[22:48] <ssta> kyan: my home desktop is 11.10, work is 10.10 and 10.04.  Flash runs fine in all of them
[22:48] <DeaconF> and you can't run any java in your browser?
[22:48] <kyan> ssta: Hmm, interesting.
[22:48] <urlin2u> phatJoe, and only as secure as the user.
[22:48] <aBound> kyan, I doubt the kernel would affect flash as the two are separate processes. But by the way they packaged Flash perhaps.
[22:49] <kyan> aBound: Ah.
[22:49] <ssta> jeremiah_: you just want the browser plugin? sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin
[22:49] <aBound> Like sometimes packages in newer versions of Ubuntu or any other distro for that matter could be broken or the way someone made their own .deb package.
[22:49] <DeaconF> Jeremiah_, I would say that I am beyond the ability to help you, as I don't frequently use Ubuntu. Your best bet would be to take your problem to the forums. Make sure to outline what you're trying to do, as well as what you have already done. If the plugins/app isn't working properly, you'll have to figure out what's causing that.
[22:50] <phatJoe> urlin2u that's not a very helpful answer but thx anyways
[22:50] <jtoomey> hello all, can anyone tell me how to change lightdm to log me into fluxbox in 12.04?
[22:50] <aBound> kyan, That's just my guess cause I seen on some sites they where they left comments and said when they installed it. It was still broken and this was for 10.10.
[22:50] <jeremiah_> if i have a game on my pc(not on internet) then don't i need the other one?
[22:50] <urlin2u> phatJoe, well this is ubuntu support your question is off topic. :D
[22:50] <DeaconF> jdk, i believe
[22:51] <bfri> Is linux owned by microsoft?
[22:51] <DeaconF> I dunno for sure
[22:51] <urlin2u> phatJoe, not able to be empirically answered as well think about it to many variables.
[22:52] <DeaconF> No, bfri :P
[22:52] <ssta> bfri: I don't think so
[22:52] <aBound> kyan, I'd say downgrade to 10.04 LTS or upgrade to 11.10 but blah.
[22:52] <Wargasm> bfri: it that was the case I have to go install something else
[22:52] <area51pilot> how do I reset the NickServ pass?
[22:52] <bastidrazor> area51pilot: ask in #freenode
[22:52] <jimmie> j #ubuntu-beginners
[22:53] <jimmie> Whoops
[22:53] <jtoomey> does anyone know how to use fluxbox with 12.04?
[22:53] <bfri> deaconf, wargasm: do a google search for it some people are saying that and thats why i wanted to check here to see what people knew
[22:53] <DeaconF> bfri, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel
[22:53] <urlin2u> kyan, you understand the term downgrade is wrong it is a fresh install going to a previous release.
[22:54] <Stefan11> Hi
[22:54] <DeaconF> It's safe to say anything with GNU involved isn't involved with Microsoft, since they oppose the core of free software.
[22:54] <urlin2u> !ot > DeaconF
[22:55] <Stefan11> After the Kernel Update to 3.0.0.15 I can't connect to the Internet via LAN any more. Does anyone have an idea, why?
[22:55] <Stefan11> WLAN worked this morning, though. I am online with Windows 7 at the moment, so the network itself is fine.
[22:56] <h0u2s3m> Bonsoir tout le monde
[22:56] <h0u2s3m> J'ai un soucis avec Armitage et metasploit sur Oneiric
[22:56] <aBound> kyan, Ubuntu in general can be odd at times one day your GUI isn't working the next day something else goes wrong. ha
[22:57] <urlin2u> h0u2s3m, Le tout le monde one of my favourit songs. :D
[22:57] <rasterizer_> can anyone advise which linux certification is better. I am an intermediate linux user planning to get certified in Linux in the next 2-3 months.
[22:57] <h0u2s3m> Salut urlin2u je suis nouveau et c'est ma première fois que j'utilise Xchat
[22:58] <urlin2u> !fr | h0u
[22:58] <urlin2u> h0u2s3m, ^^
[22:58] <h0u2s3m> Ohh sorry !
[22:58] <aBound> rasterizer_, I'm sure your post is off-topic but isn't there only one certification for Linux.
[22:58] <haylo> rasterizer_, i think it just requires alot of personal training really
[22:58] <kyan> aBound: Interesting. I used flash-aid to remove all the flash pluginse except for the one installed by Google Chrome (that works fine in Chrome) and then to set Firefox to use Chrome's plugin. It works on the test page, but I only get sound in Youtube.
[22:59] <haylo> and then get a networking it degree or something
[22:59] <rasterizer_> aBound , haylo - Im  sorry just new to this IRC
[22:59] <aBound> rasterizer_, No problem.
[22:59] <haylo> np
[22:59] <rasterizer_> is LPI or RHCE which one is better
[23:00] <Wargasm> bfri: not a big fan of google anymore, they just put out a new privacy policy that starts march 1... they want to track everything now
[23:00] <kyan> aBound, well, 10.10 is still supported until April right?
[23:00] <urlin2u> h0u2s3m, if you can post close to english we can help probably. :D
[23:00] <bfri> wargasm what is the alternative
[23:00] <aBound> kyan, Yes.
[23:00] <Stefan11> Is anyone else having issues with Realtek Ethernet Devices since 3.0.0.15?
[23:00] <Wargasm> bfri: duckduckgo is one
[23:00] <dagerik> Is Ubuntu One reliable? I am experiencing weird behaviour.
[23:01] <kyan> aBound, So I want to get it working perfectly before then, and then make a dvd I can use to restore to a perfect, stable system.
[23:01] <urlin2u> Wargasm, they do already, it is little brother of the big brother, lol.
[23:01] <haylo> dagerik, they tell me cloud computing is a waste of time
[23:01] <Wargasm> urlin2u: thats why I stopped using Chrome
[23:01] <bfri> wargasm  look at the Microsoft agreement section http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions
[23:01] <histo> dagerik: what sort of werid behavior?
[23:01] <urlin2u> Wargasm, bad browser anyway in my personal opinion.
[23:02] <histo> dagerik: and what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:02] <dagerik> haylo: 10.04, some files being synced while others not.
[23:02] <aBound> kyan, You can probably use a flash drive too. I know flash worked for me in 10.04 LTS but Firefox 9.0.1. somewhat started crashing on me and locked me out of my GUI.
[23:02] <histo> dagerik: files being synced how or with what?
[23:02] <aBound> Sticking with 11.10 until the latest arrives.
[23:03] <dagerik> histo: ubuntu one is doing the syncing
[23:03] <Wargasm> bfri: thanks for the enlightenment... looks like I have to do more homework
[23:03] <histo> dagerik: I've never used it. You might have more success getting help if you ask a question all on one line.
[23:03] <aBound> rasterizer_, You can try the channel #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:04] <rasterizer_> aBound, okay thanks
[23:04] <kyan> aBound: Ah, found the problem. It's using RGBA. http://askubuntu.com/questions/11465/firefox-youtube-flash-player-shows-as-grey-box
[23:04] <Wargasm> urlin2u: I actually liked it because it was faster than FF and I didn't want to use IE anymore... I'm glad Tor Browser and Epiphany are available
[23:04] <aBound> rasterizer_, Welcome.
[23:04] <aBound> kyan, You sure that's the problem have you tried the solution yet?
[23:04] <xrdodrx> I accidentally messed up my libpng library, and now when I try to reinstall it via "sudo apt-get install --purge --reinstall libpng12-0 libpng12-dev", I get "E: Internal Error, No file name for libpng12-0". How can I fix this?
[23:05] <kyan> aBound: Good point, I haven't
[23:05] <aBound> :P
[23:05] <kyan> aBound: lol
[23:05] <goddard> can you video chat with empathy using Google Talk?
[23:05] <aBound> kyan, I remmeber doing that same thing where I found a solution tried them all and just gave up.
[23:05] <aBound> :P
[23:06] <kyan> aBound: Oh well, that *wasn't* the problem.
[23:06] <rasterizer_> I recently had problem after upgrading to 11.10  from 11.04. I had kde and gnome installed. After the upgrade, however I was not able to boot to graphics mode. Any idea what could have gone wrong.
[23:06] <h0u2s3m> English... :( When I wanted to try to install Armitage and Metasploit all goes well until i want to run msfrcpd with this command msfrpcd sudo-f-U-P msf t-test Msg that's what gives me: [*] MSGRPC starting on 0.0.0.0:55553 (SSL): Msg ...
[23:06] <h0u2s3m> [*] 2012-01-23 10:34:50 p.m. MSGRPC ready at 0100.
[23:06] <h0u2s3m> from / opt/metasploit3/msf3/lib/fastlib.rb: 352: in `require '
[23:07] <h0u2s3m> from / opt/metasploit3/msf3/lib/msf / core/rpc/v10/service.rb: 1: in `<Top (required)> '
[23:07] <xrdodrx> whoops, wrong channel
[23:07] <FloodBot1> h0u2s3m: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <h0u2s3m> from / opt/metasploit3/msf3/lib/fastlib.rb: 352: in `require '
[23:07] <h0u2s3m> from / opt/metasploit3/msf3 / lib / fastlib.rb: 352: in `require '
[23:07] <kyan> aBound, this is what happens http://bayimg.com/GAmnnaAdC
[23:07] <aBound> kyan, Seems like a common problem for 10.10 looks like everybody is having issues from way back.
[23:07] <aBound> kyan, 11.10 for flash works flawlessly for me yet compiz breaks.
[23:08] <aBound> kyan, But uses Unity as it's GUI.
[23:08] <kyan> aBound, is there a distro that simply *works*?
[23:08] <aBound> kyan, Yes but they use older packages.
[23:08] <OerHeks> try Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[23:08] <kyan> aBound, What is it? I'm interested. (I assume I could still upgrade using PPAs or whatever they have.)
[23:09] <kyan> OerHeks: me?
[23:09] <franz__> it is possible to create windows xp usb installer using dd?
[23:09] <Stefan11> So the best tactic is simply not updating the Kernel if you don't experience issues?
[23:09] <urlin2u> Wargasm, you can teak ff to be as fast I have found.
[23:09] <urlin2u> tweak*
[23:09] <aBound> Debian is known to be stable but probably will be using a older kernel a long with older packages. Slackware is known to be stable but there's no apt-get utility so you have to find the dependencies for yourself. Can't say for any others.
[23:10] <rasterizer_> The only thing that  I could have done wrong is I had default desktop as KDM and installed customer vendor specific ATI graphics drivers after I installed 11.04
[23:10] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, i had issues with realtek on that kernel
[23:10] <Tellmarch> i fixed it by installing the 3.2 kernel or something
[23:10] <aBound> kyan, Or like OerHeks said Lubuntu or Xubuntu. By default Ubuntu tends to use Debian unstable packages from what I heard.
[23:10] <Stefan11> Tellmarch: what did you do to solve the problems?
[23:10] <phatJoe> does anybody know what distro Linus is using?
[23:11] <aBound> phatJoe, He was using Fedora but probably switched.
[23:11] <kyan> aBound: I tried using Lubuntu  for a long time but couldn't get Compiz to work. Also I like Gnome too much
[23:11] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, i used the mainline kernel
[23:11] <aBound> kyan, I don't think Compiz is supported by the GUI it uses.
[23:11] <mimi> hi
[23:11] <DJango_Novice> http://dpaste.org/vheJV/ any idea
[23:11] <Stefan11> Tellmarch: ok, that means? (sorry I am rather new to Linux)
[23:11] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, in dmesg do you see repetitive "eth0 up"  messages?
[23:11] <jeremiah_> I got JDK. how do i open and use minecraft?
[23:12] <aBound> Gnome 2 and Unity can use compiz that I know of and Gnome-Shell can't use compiz. It uses mutter.
[23:12] <kyan> aBound: Hmm. Oh well. I guess it's back to fiddling with this one
[23:12] <downbeam> can someone help with obconfig?
[23:12] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, for me it was from the install though. If for you it worked before, you can just use the previous kernel
[23:13] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, it should still be in grub when choosing the "other" option or something
[23:13] <aBound> kyan, Ubuntu LTS releases are known to be stable over a given period of time.
[23:13] <downbeam> ??????????
[23:13] <Stefan11> Ok, I will reboot and check dmesg and the older Kernel. BRB
[23:14] <aBound> kyan, With Linux in general from what I seen you can't have stability and the latest packages it's either or.
[23:14] <jeremiah_> I got JDK. how do i open and use minecraft in ubuntu?
[23:14] <DJango_Novice> im tryin to install libapache2-svn but its giving me error
[23:15] <DJango_Novice> http://dpaste.org/vheJV/
[23:15] <DJango_Novice> any idea
[23:15] <popey> jeremiah_: java -jar minecraft.net
[23:15] <jeremiah_> I type that into a terminal, right?
[23:16] <scarleo> jeremiah_, there's a nicce script for it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726735
[23:16] <deitarion> What I do for Minecraft in Ubuntu is what the Minecraft site says: Download Minecraft.jar and then run this:
[23:17] <deitarion> java -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[23:18] <deitarion> Well, actually, I wrapped it up in a shellscript I put in /usr/local/bin which also handles making a backup of my worlds so that, if I really really screw something up, I have some form of undo.
[23:19] <aBound> Is there anyway for the terminal to start in the center?
[23:19] <deitarion> aBound: Start in the center of what?
[23:20] <kyan> aBound: Ok, I guess I'll just give up for now. (I'll probably be back to haunt this channel sometime soon though :-D)
[23:20] <kyan> aBound: Thanks for the help!
[23:20] <urlin2u> aBound, details?
[23:20] <Akuma55> how do i host my domain from godaddy on ubuntu server
[23:20] <aBound> deitarion, In the center of the screen as it's always off-center either on the top right or top left or bottom left or bottom right of the screen.
[23:20] <Wargasm> aBound: my terminal starts wherever it likes
[23:21] <aBound> I suppose there's no way to change it and I have to move it in the center every time.
[23:21] <jeremiah_> that link did not help. the download didn't do anything
[23:21] <deitarion> aBound: Depends. Window placement is usually determined by your window manager.
[23:21] <archcub> Just have a quick question. Can anyone recommend a good CLI uPNP/DLNA server?
[23:21] <aBound> deitarion, My GUI is Unity.
[23:22] <deitarion> aBound: In other words, you're using Compiz for your window manager. The last time I used Compiz was shortly after the reunification with Beryl, so I won't be much help there.
[23:22] <Cube``_> guys, archives down?
[23:22] <meerkats> on mu ubuntu 11.10, tor is not owned by 1000 but by 160, I cannot use it, how do I fix that?
[23:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> aBound,  take a look at Yakuake
[23:23] <hwilde> how to get more workspaces in unity ?
[23:23] <aBound> deitarion, No problem.
[23:23] <aBound> mydogsnameisrudy, I'll check it out.
[23:24] <grayghost> I am new to 11.10    is it posible to attach the menu bar to the program window .... rather than to the screens top bar?
[23:24] <Stefan11> Tellmarch: dmesg shows "eth0 up" only once, after booting. Then it seems to operate normally. But even with the older Kernels (3.0.0.14 and 3.0.0.13) I can't connect to the internet. Pinging the ocal DNS at 192.168.1.1 is no problem, though.
[23:24] <downbeam> i can't change my background
[23:24] <aBound> hwilde, If you don't have the compiz settings manager installed install it. From there you can go to General Options >> Desktop Size tab.
[23:25] <aBound> mydogsnameisrudy, Looks like a KDE emulator.
[23:25] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, that's strange... ping www.google.com doesn't work then?
[23:25] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep f12 brings it down center screen
[23:25] <Stefan11> aBound: compiz settings manager terribly ruined my system - apparently it doesn't work well with unity
[23:26] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, might be a problem with the DNS.... can you ping 209.85.147.106 ?
[23:26] <Stefan11> Tellmarch: correct, it says "unknown host", probably because it cannot resolve the host name
[23:26] <downbeam> MY UBUNTU IS ACTING FUNNY??????????????????
[23:26] <Si2100> sup ?
[23:26] <urlin2u> Stefan11, if you randomly tweak compiz without looking on the web about this you will have problems if it is new to you.
[23:26] <downbeam> i cant change my background
[23:27] <Si2100> Have u tried from the Apperanced option under system settings
[23:27] <aBound> Stefan11, I know there's breakage in 11.10.
[23:28] <aBound> Stefan11, 12.04 should fix that issue when it's officially released.
[23:28] <Stefan11> urlin2u: Well, all I did was starting the Settings Manager and Unity stopped working. After deinstalling Compiz via Konsole, I spent about a week trying to get the graphics  working again (I couldn't start any game any more). I gave up and reinstalled
[23:28] <urlin2u> Stefan11, unity is a plugin in compiz.
[23:28] <archcub> Sorry for re-ask, but can anyone recommend a uPHP/DLNA server? Trying to create a media server here at home
[23:29] <Stefan11> urlin2u: sorry for being lazy. I meant Compiz Settings Manager
[23:29] <bastidrazor> archcub: ushare
[23:29] <urlin2u> aBound, just saying you know there is breakage helps no one.
[23:29] <archcub> bastidrazor: thanks. I'll check it out
[23:29] <Stefan11> Tellmarch: I will reboot and see if I can. If not, I will try to set a new DNS Server.
[23:30] <urlin2u> Stefan11, no problem I new thats what you meant, but you may want to check before just tweaking at times.
[23:30] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, you might want to look in /etc/resolv.conf check for anything unusual
[23:30] <DJango_Novice> http://dpaste.org/vheJV/ any idea???
[23:30] <Stefan11> Tellmarch: thanks
[23:31] <Tellmarch> Stefan11, for instance in mine right now i have  a line "nameserver 192.168.1.1"
[23:31] <aBound> urlin2u, Well I doubt it's going to fix anything when the package is broken.
[23:31] <downbeam> i dont have system settings?
[23:31] <urlin2u> aBound, look up confirmation bias
[23:31] <spp> hi
[23:32] <BinaryMaster> as root usermod -p password user  <---- that should change the password for that user right?
[23:32] <dagerik> I am unable to run php files by simply typing the name. The shebang is present, and the folder in PATH. The code is not interpreted but instead echoed.
[23:32] <Stefan11> urlin2u: Yes, I know. I am very cautious when it comes to things like that. But in this case unity really stopped working as soon as I had launched Compiz Settings Manager - I still don't know why, but as I can live without it.. :)
[23:33] <urlin2u> Stefan11, did you know that a there is a command to restart compiz?
[23:33] <phatJoe> BinaryMaster: try "passwd <user>" :D
[23:33] <aBound> urlin2u, I see no relation in what confirmation bias has to do with compiz breaking in 11.10. Even in the Software Center there's reviews on people saying the same thing.
[23:34] <BinaryMaster> phatJoe, I need to be able to script it
[23:34] <rocktop> I have a problem with a partition http://pastebin.com/i8zDdNBs anyidea ?
[23:35] <tillMorning> How correct I need to say: 'get life joy'
[23:35] <tillMorning> should be: get the life joy? or get the life of joy?
[23:35] <tillMorning> How correct I need to say: 'get life joy'. should be: get the life joy? or get the life of joy? - or is OK get life joy?
[23:36] <Stefan11_> Tellmarch: uhm, ok. I didn't change anything, but it works now
[23:36] <Tellmarch> Stefan11_, well that's good news
[23:37] <cordyceps> apt-get can't find apcupsd but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/i386/apcupsd/3.14.8-2. How do I tell apt-get to go there, or anywhere, for the pkg?
[23:38] <deitarion> lagbox: Turns out I didn't need to write the script. (Thank goodness. I've got things that could use more time spent on them.) There's still a 3.1 audacious to be grabbed from this PPA --> https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/test4
[23:40] <em> is it possible to just download (through firefox) the deb for tsocks so i can install it with sudo dpkg -i tsocksxxx.deb ?
[23:40] <em> because I'm behind a firewall. I have access to the internet but apt-get wont work.
[23:40] <deitarion> em: Of course. Repositories are just web servers. However, it's probably better to just fix apt-get.
[23:40] <deitarion> Does the firewall require special proxy settings?
[23:41] <downbeam> how do i change my window manager?
[23:41] <downbeam> ?
[23:42] <deitarion> downbeam: What desktop are you on now?
[23:42] <em> deitarion: That's unknown to me. I'm at work. There is a policy for using an 'official proxy' for using Firefox. But I get around that by using ssh -D 12345 em@my.home.computer.addy  and then setting Firefox to using SOCKS
[23:42] <downbeam> Lubuntu
[23:42] <trism> cordyceps: make sure you have universe enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list (or check the box in software-properties-gtk) and run apt-get update
[23:43] <deitarion> em: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35223/syntax-for-socks-proxy-in-apt-conf
[23:43] <em> deitarion: I would like to be able to use apt-get or aptitude somehow. I thought maybe If I can install tsocks somehow then I could use it to run apt-get installs through my connection at home?
[23:43] <deitarion> That link gives instructions for tsocks.
[23:43] <downbeam> can someone help me?
[23:44] <deitarion> downbeam: Don't ask to ask. Just ask your question in detail and if anyone knows, we'll answer.
[23:44] <DJango_Novice> libapache2-svn error http://dpaste.org/vheJV/
[23:44] <deitarion> downbeam: Oh, sorry. Distracted.
[23:44] <DJango_Novice> can some1 helpme please
[23:44] <em> deitarion: I do not think that tsocks comes installed on Ubuntu by default. I need to install tsocks before I can use it.
[23:45] <deitarion> em: Oh, yeah. Forgot. One sec.
[23:45] <em> deitarion: That poses a problem since I want to use tsocks to make apt-get work and one typically uses apt-get to install things.
[23:45] <ablyss> i just noticed i have a ubuntu desktop wm and a gnome desktop wm.  I just started using the gnome wm
[23:45] <em> deitarion: So I thought maybe I can get the right tsocksxx.deb somehow through my browser and then install it with sudo dpkgs -i tsocksxxx.deb ?
[23:46] <deitarion> downbeam: If you're on Lubuntu, then you're in luck. I use it and know how to switch WMs.
[23:46] <deitarion> em: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/tsocks/
[23:46] <downbeam> how do i change my window manager?
[23:46] <downbeam> deit can you help?
[23:46] <krysits> what do you know abo paks life
[23:46] <urlin2u> downbeam, what is the desktop your using?
[23:47] <deitarion> downbeam: Start Menu equivalent -> Preferences -> Desktop Session Settings -> Advanced Options
[23:47] <scarleo> DJango_Novice, see this: http://squarism.com/2010/02/08/subversion-aptitude-error/
[23:47] <downbeam> i know but what is the other window manager?
[23:47] <deitarion> downbeam: There are plenty. What are you looking for in a WM?
[23:47] <em> deitarion: when using dpgk does it matter what the working directory that you use it in is?
[23:48] <deitarion> em: I don't use it often, but not that I remember. You could also just double-click the .deb if you've got a GUI.
[23:48] <downbeam> something where i can change my background
[23:48] <jjman6> how can i force uninstall something w/ apt (it won't let me because of a pkg w/ unmet dependancies needs to be reinstalled but i'm out of HD space so i want to uninstall some pkgs)
[23:48] <em> I do have a GUI
[23:48] <deitarion> downbeam: That's not a function of the WM. Let me guess. The "crashes on background change" bug?
[23:48] <AlanBell> jjman6: can you find some other way to free up some space for a bit?
[23:48] <downbeam> i dont know...       could be
[23:49] <deitarion> downbeam: How have you tried to change your background?
[23:49] <jjman6> AlanBell: Not likely  its on /usr
[23:49] <neo31> Hello, please I have some problems connectiong to wireless networks : http://paste.ubuntu.com/817126/
[23:49] <graft> yo, so i installed nodejs, and it claims to be version 0.4.9 - but it runs at 0.2.4, what gives?
[23:49] <downbeam> when you right click is says nothing about changing the background
[23:50] <deitarion> downbeam: What does it say?
[23:50] <graft> neo31: can you connect if you disable security and such?
[23:50] <dagerik> People are suggesting to remove file extensions such as .php on my cli scripts. But then the syntax highlighting for php goes away :(
[23:50] <neo31> what kind of security graft ?
[23:50] <urlin2u> downbeam, have you tried loging out and back in?
[23:50] <graft> neo31: you know, like WPA and so on
[23:51] <urlin2u> logging*
[23:51] <downbeam> yes several times
[23:51] <DJango_Novice> scarleo: thats exactly what my problem is.... i dont have DAV_SVN in mods-enabled
[23:51] <deitarion> downbeam: I need to know what it says in your desktop's right-click menu. Then I can tell you how to change your background.
[23:51] <urlin2u> downbeam, any customization of the desktop, and which one is it?
[23:51] <DJango_Novice> scarleo: im trying to install mod-dav-svn but not working
[23:51] <DJango_Novice> scarleo: it says couldnt locate the package
[23:51] <downbeam> i dont remember
[23:52] <downbeam> deit hold on
[23:52] <neo31> ah ok i'll check that
[23:52] <scarleo> DJango_Novice, so enable it then
[23:52] <scarleo> ah ok
[23:52] <DJango_Novice> scarleo: its not installed
[23:52] <deitarion> dagerik: What are you using to edit your PHP files? Some of them can be configured to check the top of the file for "<?php", some can be given an extra hint, and the rest can be manually set to PHP highlighting via the menus.
[23:52] <DJango_Novice> scarleo: not availablein mods-available
[23:53] <dagerik> deitarion: nano
[23:53] <downbeam> deitarion it says: terminal emulator: web browser-Desktops-obconf:reconfigure:restart-exit
[23:53] <deitarion> dagerik: Ahh. Been quite a while since I used nano. (I use vim for my terminal editing) Give me a sec to Google up some docs on its syntax highlighting.
[23:54] <downbeam> deit: that is what it says ^
[23:54] <deitarion> downbeam: That explains it. Normally, PCManFM is in charge of providing the menu and there's a "Desktop Preferences" option. You or someone else told PCManFM to pass on clicks to the WM, so changing your WM won't help. You need to regain access to the "Desktop Preferences" dialog. One sec.
[23:55] <deitarion> downbeam: Run this --> pcmanfm --desktop-pref
[23:55] <deitarion> That'll give you both the wallpaper-changing options and the checkbox that lets you choose which right-click menu you get.
[23:56] <downbeam> with the hyphens and everything
[23:56] <DJango_Novice> scarleo: is it really such a big deal that no one can help me here.....
[23:56] <deitarion> downbeam: Yeah. "pcmanfm --desktop-pref". The hyphens indicate that it's an option rather than an argument. (It's a technical distinction we don't need to get into)
[23:57] <downbeam> do you know how i can get that with just a right click on the desktop?
[23:58] <deitarion> downbeam: Two ways. Just give me a sec to say something to dagerik.
[23:58] <downbeam> ..
[23:59] <deitarion> dagerik: I'm still looking into nano but one option you could try is putting `syntax "php"` into your ~/.nanorc to default files that don't have an extension to PHP syntax highlighting.