| afiestas | Riddell: apt is a little bit messy | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| afiestas | for example couldn't install aircrack | 00:04 |
| afiestas | but well, I will compile it I guess :p | 00:05 |
| Riddell | afiestas: did it say why not? | 00:14 |
| Riddell | afiestas: do you think that is due to SC 4.8? | 00:14 |
| afiestas | Riddell: nope, it is ubuntu's fault I guess | 00:14 |
| afiestas | it said "this package was repalced by iw" which makes no sense | 00:14 |
| Riddell | installs fine in oneiric | 00:15 |
| Riddell | I guess it has disappeared in precise | 00:15 |
| Riddell | yeah removed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aircrack-ng | 00:16 |
| Riddell | reasons says "(From Debian) RoQA; unmaintained, RC-buggy, NPOS; Debian bug #642934" | 00:17 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 642934 in wnpp "ITP: aircrack-ng -- wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/642934 | 00:17 |
| afiestas | Riddell: to be added back? | 00:17 |
| afiestas | buggy? :s | 00:17 |
| afiestas | wth? | 00:17 |
| Riddell | afiestas: I've no idea | 00:19 |
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| Tm_T | morning | 05:15 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: looks like at work, display settings don't stay | 06:07 |
| Tm_T | and it's 1024x768 it falls back to | 06:07 |
| Tm_T | this is not nice... | 06:16 |
| MacSeal | hi,in kde 4.8 Drag and drop not working in dolphins main window to the trash icon in the side panel | 06:43 |
| apachepanda | MacSeal: bugs.kde.org | 08:14 |
| Riddell | hola | 08:32 |
| tsdgeos | aloh | 08:41 |
| apachepanda | debfx: regarding your BIC question from yesterday .... if you meant the retraction of the private slots ... that is indeed binary incompatible ... private slots: will lead to visible symbols whereas Q_PRIVATE_SLOT is a purely metaobject based slot (i.e. the metaobject calls the dptr rather than the public object - hence the Q_PRIVATE_SLOT macro expands to nothing) | 08:55 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: what's this? | 08:56 |
| apachepanda | arguably the incompatibility can be ignored though as it was private to begin with ^^ | 08:56 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=marble.git&a=commitdiff&h=47e416ef6c98683af9e27d80d9ea547459d908a6 | 08:56 |
| Riddell | mm | 08:57 |
| apachepanda | see it was wrong before as it was using private *slots*:, and it was changed in a wrong way as it is retracting interfaces, but at least it is correct now | 08:57 |
| apachepanda | (that is except for inconsitent code formatting ^^) | 08:57 |
| tsdgeos | that's the marble runner class | 08:58 |
| tsdgeos | don't think BC matters there | 08:58 |
| tsdgeos | does it? | 08:58 |
| apachepanda | tsdgeos: it is in a lib folder, so from the diff I must judge it matters | 08:58 |
| Riddell | we would care about BC if it's libmarblewidget | 08:58 |
| Riddell | but that page doesn't tell me when it happened or in what branch | 08:59 |
| apachepanda | it is part of marblewidget_SRCS | 09:02 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: surely debfx will handle it ^^ | 09:02 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: though I wonder if we symbol check libmarble* | 09:02 |
| apachepanda | that would be rather good, libmarble* doesn't have a history of being very bc | 09:03 |
| tsdgeos | apachepanda: question is, you sure that is BIC? | 09:04 |
| tsdgeos | it still defines the slots | 09:04 |
| tsdgeos | true the function implementation itself moved to a different class | 09:04 |
| apachepanda | tsdgeos: it defines them using Q_PRIVATE_SLOT | 09:04 |
| tsdgeos | but that's not BIC | 09:04 |
| apachepanda | which expands to void | 09:04 |
| tsdgeos | sure | 09:04 |
| tsdgeos | removing non virtual functions is BC | 09:05 |
| tsdgeos | and using Q_PRIVATE_SLOT will give you the "correct" functions in the .moc object | 09:05 |
| tsdgeos | so i am not sure there's a BC problem there | 09:05 |
| apachepanda | there is no function in the moc | 09:05 |
| apachepanda | the function is in the private class | 09:05 |
| tsdgeos | sure | 09:06 |
| apachepanda | which is called by the metaobject | 09:06 |
| tsdgeos | i mean the "switch" in the metaobject | 09:06 |
| apachepanda | so fro an outside perspective the entire interface is retracted | 09:06 |
| tsdgeos | it's a private slot | 09:06 |
| apachepanda | which makes it bic if someone were to work around the private: and call the slot as a function | 09:06 |
| tsdgeos | if you were connecting to it | 09:06 |
| apachepanda | slots are still functions | 09:06 |
| tsdgeos | yes | 09:06 |
| tsdgeos | private | 09:06 |
| apachepanda | yes, and private has no impact on the symbols | 09:06 |
| tsdgeos | only this class cares about them | 09:06 |
| apachepanda | hence my comment that one could very well ignore this BIC | 09:07 |
| apachepanda | as the likelihood of it having an impact is next to nil | 09:07 |
| tsdgeos | obviously you still can invoke private slots using QMetaObject::invokeMethod | 09:07 |
| tsdgeos | since the metaobject knows nothing about the privateness | 09:07 |
| apachepanda | ack | 09:07 |
| tsdgeos | but then you're being too smart for your own good | 09:08 |
| tsdgeos | and willing to be punished for it | 09:08 |
| tsdgeos | imo | 09:08 |
| apachepanda | agreed | 09:09 |
| apachepanda | that doesn't matter on a policy level though :P | 09:09 |
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| apachepanda | Riddell: did kde ever discuss changing the path of the startkde env scripts? | 10:06 |
| apachepanda | http://paste.ubuntu.com/817462/ | 10:06 |
| apachepanda | and does anyone remember why we do not do the kdedirs changes in there? | 10:07 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: I don't think I've seen such a discussion | 10:08 |
| apachepanda | should go to share/kde4/ IMHO | 10:08 |
| apachepanda | well | 10:09 |
| apachepanda | share/kde4/env | 10:09 |
| * apachepanda puts it on his todo | 10:09 | |
| apachepanda | or at least share/env/ | 10:09 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: any immediate objections to moving our kdedirs/gtk setup magic from startkde to env scripts? | 10:25 |
| apachepanda | that would also allow us to get rid of the dirty if -e infofile hacks | 10:25 |
| apachepanda | as we can ship the scripts with their packages | 10:25 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: what's the advantage? | 10:26 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: just a cleaner way you think? | 10:27 |
| apachepanda | yes, also not having to pull those dirty hacks | 10:27 |
| apachepanda | and ultimately not having to patch startkde at all | 10:28 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: go for it as long as you take responsibility for any regressions :) | 10:28 |
| apachepanda | (I think the only other change is country detection which should really move to klocale) | 10:28 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: yeah, sure :P | 10:28 |
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| stanley_robertso | hi all | 11:50 |
| Riddell | hi stanley_robertso | 11:51 |
| stanley_robertso | hi Riddell | 11:52 |
| stanley_robertso | wassup | 11:52 |
| Riddell | umm we're developing Kubuntu, want to join us? | 11:53 |
| stanley_robertso | sure, would love to | 11:53 |
| stanley_robertso | Riddell: so whcih phase is in kubuntu now ? | 11:56 |
| Riddell | stanley_robertso: we're about half way through the cycle, things need packaging, testing needs doing occationally, features and work items need worked on | 11:57 |
| stanley_robertso | cool, so a lot going on . | 11:58 |
| stanley_robertso | I hope across technologies | 11:58 |
| Riddell | you hope or you hop? | 11:59 |
| stanley_robertso | I mean.. the current work is going on.. across technologies | 11:59 |
| stanley_robertso | Iam from C/C++ stream | 11:59 |
| Riddell | there's a broad range of skills needed to make a distro for sure, from coding to writing to testing | 12:00 |
| Riddell | most coding is upstream in KDE but we need to do bits for bugfixing and our own programmes | 12:01 |
| stanley_robertso | ahh ok . Do i need to setup any base, for starting into it . | 12:01 |
| Riddell | that all depends on the task in question | 12:02 |
| stanley_robertso | which components in kubuntu has c/c++ tech involved | 12:02 |
| Riddell | almost all of upstream KDE uses c++ so we might need to do bugfixes, although usually we can convince upstream to do that | 12:03 |
| Riddell | Muon is a Kubuntu programme that is written in c++ | 12:04 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-firefox-installer too I think | 12:04 |
| Riddell | muon is closely maintained by jonathan thomas so talk to him about whether anything needs done | 12:06 |
| Riddell | (I expect it does) | 12:06 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-firefox-installer is simple, might be worth checking launchpad for bugs but I don't expect any critical ones | 12:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I just realised this ./kde-sc-build-status script doesn't do the retry for you, you need to check it's output and do it manually | 12:09 |
| Riddell | there must be a way we can do that through the LP APIs | 12:09 |
| Riddell | stanley_robertso: we do quite a bit of coding in python | 12:09 |
| stanley_robertso | I knew perl, awk .. and not python.. but i hope its not hard to learn it | 12:10 |
| Riddell | as programming languages go python is very easy to learn | 12:10 |
| Riddell | of course like any programming languages there's APIs etc to get used to as well | 12:10 |
| stanley_robertso | Riddell: ok. let me check with jonathan thomas [ his id ? ] to see, if i can be of any help | 12:15 |
| Riddell | stanley_robertso: JontheEchidna | 12:23 |
| Riddell | or echidnaman on launchpad I think | 12:23 |
| stanley_robertso | Riddell: thanks | 12:25 |
| Riddell | I hope you find useful and fun things to do for Kubuntu :) | 12:26 |
| stanley_robertso | sure, thanks a lot for the info Riddell | 12:26 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I can't remember if you said before but python-qt4 has build failures on arm, what do you know about those? | 12:55 |
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| fregl | since upgrading to soprano 0.7.4 I get crashes in akonadi every couple of seconds, I guess that's known? | 13:12 |
| Riddell | fregl: no I've not heard of that | 13:12 |
| Riddell | fregl: crashes that cause drkonqi to appear? | 13:12 |
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| fregl | Riddell: yes https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292388 | 13:13 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 292388 in general "Nepomuk/Soprano crashes after upgrading to 2 7 4" [Crash,New] | 13:13 |
| fregl | I'll try downgrading now | 13:14 |
| fregl | currently I can't write an email | 13:14 |
| Riddell | sucks | 13:14 |
| Riddell | kontact is working fine with me | 13:14 |
| fregl | actually I can by disabling nepomuk | 13:14 |
| Riddell | so I think your best chance is to hassle kdepim people to looking into it | 13:14 |
| Riddell | or just workaround it if you can | 13:15 |
| fregl | Riddell: what is our artwork license? lgpl? | 13:20 |
| fregl | (kde I mean) | 13:20 |
| Riddell | fregl: depends on situation | 13:20 |
| Riddell | lgpl for icons in platform, gpl for icons and artwork elsewhere | 13:21 |
| fregl | Riddell: by default, like program icons | 13:21 |
| fregl | ok thanks | 13:21 |
| Riddell | may be safer to make it lgpl if you think it might move into platform one day I guess | 13:21 |
| Riddell | 4.8 seems mostly good or compiling and expected to be good except kdepim-runtime, looking into that | 13:31 |
| Riddell | I need to look into l10n builds too | 13:31 |
| afiestas | agateau_: ping | 13:38 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: pong | 13:39 |
| afiestas | agateau_: do you remember my modification of kdelibs for having "menubar" lookup ? | 13:39 |
| afiestas | happens that I have some free time now until 19:00 and I want to do a KRunner with the same functionality | 13:40 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: the search in help menu idea? | 13:40 |
| * afiestas if somebody says like HUD I may have to kill him :p | 13:40 | |
| afiestas | agateau_: yes | 13:40 |
| agateau_ | oh, like the matrix! | 13:41 |
| agateau_ | (previous code name for hud :)) | 13:41 |
| afiestas | can you orient me on how dbusmenu works? and what should I use? | 13:41 |
| afiestas | right now I have a bunch of stuff compiled and oxygen-appmenu is working finde | 13:42 |
| afiestas | but for example the plasmoid isn't and I can see that there is a KDED not running related to dbusmenu exportation | 13:42 |
| agateau_ | yes, that's a work-in-progress | 13:43 |
| agateau_ | first we need to get the terminology right: | 13:44 |
| agateau_ | dbusmenu is about exposing a menu over dbus | 13:44 |
| agateau_ | no matter what the menu comes from | 13:44 |
| apachepanda | afiestas: like hud!? | 13:44 |
| Riddell | /kickban apachepanda | 13:44 |
| agateau_ | appmenu registers the association between your window and the main menubar to an appmenu registrar | 13:44 |
| agateau_ | mmm, that's confusing, 2nd try | 13:45 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: then I must stop work and go home \o/ | 13:45 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: come back! | 13:45 |
| apachepanda | meh | 13:45 |
| afiestas | apachepanda: --Beer; for you next time I see you :p | 13:46 |
| agateau_ | appmenu exposes your menubar on dbus (using dbusmenu) and registers the tuple (window-id, dbusmenu-for-your-menubar) to the appmenu registrar | 13:46 |
| agateau_ | right now plasma-widget-menubar implements the registrar and displays the menubar | 13:46 |
| agateau_ | oxygen-appmenu does (or used to do) the same | 13:47 |
| agateau_ | but oxygen-appmenu devs have started to move the registrar to a kded | 13:47 |
| agateau_ | so that it can be used by multiple menubar renderers (oxygen-appmenu, plasma-widget-menubar) | 13:47 |
| agateau_ | I haven't caught up with them: plasma-widget-menubar should be modified to use this registrar | 13:48 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: that's the current situation I think | 13:48 |
| afiestas | agateau_: reading | 13:48 |
| afiestas | agateau_: ok so for a krunner I should become a register the first time I'm used and then listening for "change window events" so I keep my association in order | 13:50 |
| afiestas | is that it? | 13:50 |
| afiestas | (I will take a look at the plasmoid code) | 13:50 |
| afiestas | agateau_: slighly-offtopic question, is it possible to export somehow all QActions via dbus ? | 13:50 |
| afiestas | I'm afraid that we are going to loose kiosk functionality in Qt5/KF5/KDE4+1 | 13:51 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: the trick is that right now when appmenu exposes your menubar, it hides them from the window | 13:52 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: so you need a menu renderer somewhere (plasma-widget-menubar or oxygen-appmenu) | 13:53 |
| afiestas | but you can have more than one renderer? | 13:53 |
| afiestas | or just one? | 13:53 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: you can have more than one renderer | 13:53 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: you can only have one registrar | 13:53 |
| agateau_ | (the thing which keeps the association between a window and its menubar) | 13:53 |
| afiestas | oh damn... now I see why the plasmoid is not working while having the oxygen-app menu | 13:54 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: that's it, until I get some time to make it uses the kded registar | 13:54 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: then they can work together | 13:54 |
| afiestas | well oxygen-app menu is not using the kded thing so... | 13:54 |
| afiestas | not sure if the developer is activelly working on it | 13:54 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: your krunner can just assume there is a registrar running (whether it comes from the plasma widget or oxygen-appmenu does not matter) | 13:55 |
| afiestas | shouldn't the registar be standar as well? | 13:55 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: standard as in? | 13:55 |
| afiestas | well all registrar are going to do the same and are going to export the very same api | 13:55 |
| agateau_ | as in frakkeddesktop.org standard? | 13:55 |
| afiestas | it seems to me a waste of manpower having 2 different registrars and up to 3 in case that gnome decide to jump into appmenu world | 13:56 |
| agateau_ | on the kde side, our goal is to have one registrar only, the kded one | 13:56 |
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| agateau_ | which is basically a standalone version of the code from plasma-widget-menubar | 13:56 |
| afiestas | agateau_: but now, Unity is going to need more or less the same thing | 13:57 |
| afiestas | since they are going to have HUD and menubar | 13:57 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: Unity has had a registrar for a long time | 13:57 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: both registrar have been released at the same time | 13:57 |
| afiestas | ok so, going back to the krunner, instead of implementing the registar again, making it incompatible with oxygen-app/plasmoid | 13:58 |
| afiestas | what I have to do is... call here? | 13:58 |
| afiestas | qdbus com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar /com/canonical/AppMenu/Registrar com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar.GetMenus | 13:58 |
| afiestas | right? | 13:59 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kde-l10n-build-status added and kde-sc-build-status synced | 13:59 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: yes | 13:59 |
| afiestas | last question :p | 14:00 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: then pick the appropriate menu | 14:00 |
| afiestas | ok, that kind of answered my question | 14:00 |
| afiestas | it was "When the user launch krunner I guess that krunner will be identified as the focused window, how do I get the menu from the previous focused window ?" | 14:00 |
| afiestas | I guess I will be able to do that via the getMenus call | 14:01 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: not really: GetMenus() gives you all menus for all windows | 14:01 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: there may be some trick to do with the order window are stacked: the previously focused window is likely to be the next or previous one | 14:02 |
| afiestas | mm that is going to be problematic I guess | 14:03 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: or you could look into the code of the hud :) | 14:03 |
| afiestas | though maybe KRunner does the same trick that plasma does | 14:03 |
| agateau_ | mmm, actually no: when the hud is invoked, the current window is probably still the correct one | 14:03 |
| afiestas | when I click into your plasmoid the application loose the focus but the menu doesn't change | 14:03 |
| agateau_ | that is my code which does this iirc | 14:04 |
| agateau_ | it tracks the current window but ignore changes if the new window is the parent of the widget | 14:04 |
| afiestas | then I can do the same, ookey! enough talking if not would be as if you write the thing then won't be funny :p | 14:05 |
| afiestas | lunch time then hacking time brb ! | 14:05 |
| Riddell | good luck with your hacking afiestas! | 14:09 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: keep us posted! | 14:10 |
| Riddell | anyone remember what we did with kde-l10n-ca@valencia? | 14:11 |
| Riddell | s/did/do/ | 14:11 |
| kubotu | Riddell meant: "anyone remember what we do with kde-l10n-ca@valencia?" | 14:11 |
| Riddell | it's not in the archive as kde-l10n-cavalencia and it's not in with kde-l10n-ca | 14:11 |
| Riddell | oh yes it's kde-l10n-ca-valencia | 14:12 |
| Riddell | good, wouldn't want to miss that out, keeps my granny happy | 14:12 |
| Riddell | so kde-l10n all good, hugs to apachepanda for making kde-l10n-common | 14:14 |
| Riddell | sigh kde-l10n in PPA another 5 hours to build | 14:17 |
| Riddell | ho hum | 14:17 |
| tsdgeos | Riddell: your granny from valencia? | 14:21 |
| Riddell | tsdgeos: not an entirely serious comment, she lives there but is english speaking. great spanish but no catalan and certainly not ca@valencia | 14:25 |
| tsdgeos | ahh, those adorable oldies that come to spend their money in our shores :-) | 14:26 |
| Riddell | at least she speaks spanish! :) | 14:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: re python-qt4: I don't know. It didn't fail last time, so I don't know if it's because I changed something or because arm* changed something. | 14:32 |
| * ScottK is going to start some test builds on the armel boxen. | 14:33 | |
| afiestas | Riddell: which is more than the average English people living here | 14:33 |
| ScottK | If only apachepanda would make the Ice Cream magic work again. | 14:33 |
| Riddell | afiestas: she not English :) | 14:33 |
| afiestas | Riddell: sorry, I always mess up with the names there, should British will be correct right? since it includes all islands | 14:34 |
| afiestas | s/should/so/ | 14:34 |
| kubotu | afiestas meant: "Riddell: sorry, I always mess up with the names there, so British will be correct right? since it includes all islands" | 14:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I see you filled up / on the arm box again. Are you done with your Calligra stuff yet? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | afiestas: yes British is right although can annoy Irish people depending on their opinion :) | 14:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: no but it needs restarting again, let me look what I can save and delete bits | 14:37 |
| apachepanda | ScottK: do we have a new setup yet? | 14:38 |
| apachepanda | ScottK: also do we have a machine for OBS yet? ;) | 14:38 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Please do your stuff somewhere in /var/cache (maybe even /var/cache/home/jr). | 14:39 |
| Riddell | ScottK: oh just scrap it, it needs a full compile again anyway at least | 14:39 |
| Riddell | yes I'll use /var/cache in future | 14:39 |
| ScottK | apachepanda: No. I've been fiddling with getting armhf working on the machine and didn't manage it yet. That'll be much faster. | 14:39 |
| apachepanda | and you broke icecc while you were at it? :P | 14:40 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: what makes OBS so good? | 14:40 |
| ScottK | No, experimenting on a different box. | 14:40 |
| Riddell | ug computer rebooted, "Jan 26 14:33:32 gallus kernel: [81232.090933] Critical temperature reached (100 C), shutting down." nasty | 14:41 |
| ScottK | The manufacturer provides a Debian armhf image. Just need to figure the bits to fiddle to boot from the SD card. | 14:41 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: it can be set up in less than a life time | 14:42 |
| apachepanda | ScottK: you could surely do tftp booting | 14:42 |
| apachepanda | which might in fact be faster than sd anyway | 14:42 |
| ScottK | Might. Didn't have a lot of time to mess with it yet. | 14:42 |
| apachepanda | kk | 14:42 |
| apachepanda | well, I am at work, so I don't have my ssh keys with me | 14:43 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: btw https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/101629 | 14:45 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: nice, are you planning to propose that to opensuse? | 14:46 |
| apachepanda | that is the proposal | 14:46 |
| Riddell | let's see if they take it | 14:46 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I should wait for you to do your arm stuff before starting on calligra? | 14:47 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Give me a bit to get the builds going. | 14:47 |
| Riddell | ok I'll look at the daily ISO build | 14:49 |
| Riddell | mm 1.4MB/sec, I'm liking this new connection | 14:53 |
| ScottK | Riddell: My build's started, so give it ~some minutes to get past the I/O intensive part of unpacking the chroot and stuff and then feel free. | 14:58 |
| Riddell | thanks | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | nice ...I'm capped at 750KB/sec here , but i should be thankful, being in the boonies an all | 14:59 |
| ScottK | Riddell: re python-qt4: That's the first time it's been built against Qt 4.8 on arm*, but it built before that with 4.7.4. The function with the error isn't a new one, so I'm inclined to blame Qt 4.8. sip: QPainterPathStroker::setDashPattern() unsupported function argument type - provide %MethodCode and a valid C++ signature - Thoughts? | 15:07 |
| ScottK | (keep the discussion here I think( | 15:07 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hmm so maybe we should see if it compiles against 4.8 on other platforms | 15:08 |
| ScottK | It does on the other archs. | 15:08 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ok then I'd say time to ask upstream pyqt for ideas | 15:09 |
| Riddell | he's usually responsive | 15:09 |
| Riddell | are you on the pyqt list? | 15:09 |
| barry | hi Riddell, ScottK | 15:10 |
| ScottK | I'm not. I'm also late for running off to a meeting. Could you? | 15:10 |
| ScottK | Hello barry. | 15:10 |
| barry | what's your current thinking about the build failures? the logs don't seem helpful | 15:11 |
| Riddell | ScottK: can do | 15:11 |
| ScottK | barry: I'm tempted to blame it on Qt 4.8 and Riddell is suggesting was ask upstream for help. I'm hoping he'll do that. | 15:11 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 15:11 |
| barry | cool. i have arm machine here, but it's fairly underpowered. (it takes me 15m just to ssh in ;) | 15:11 |
| Riddell | erk that doesn't sound like a way to have a productive day | 15:11 |
| ScottK | barry: It's the first time it's been built on arm* against Qt 4.8, so I'm inclined to think it's Qt. It's nowhere near your patch. | 15:11 |
| ScottK | barry: I started a local build on our arm box and I'll check in on it again later today. | 15:12 |
| barry | cool. well, let me know if there's anything i can help with | 15:12 |
| ScottK | Gotta run. | 15:12 |
| apachepanda | barry, Riddell: what is failing? | 15:18 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: pyqt on arm | 15:19 |
| barry | apachepanda: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/91076358/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armhf.python-qt4_4.9-2ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 15:19 |
| apachepanda | cfgtest_QtMultimedia.cpp:1:28: fatal error: QAudioDeviceInfo: No such file or directory :O | 15:21 |
| apachepanda | !find QAudioDeviceInfo precise | 15:21 |
| ubottu | File QAudioDeviceInfo found in qtmobility-dev | 15:21 |
| apachepanda | that package ain't getting installed it seems?! | 15:21 |
| Riddell | apachepanda: for pyqt? | 15:22 |
| apachepanda | yes | 15:22 |
| apachepanda | search for that line I pasted | 15:22 |
| apachepanda | after it comes compilation terminated. | 15:22 |
| Riddell | hmm yes | 15:22 |
| Riddell | it's not a build-dep | 15:24 |
| Riddell | ScottK: when you get back let me know if you think that'll fix it and if it needs testing before upload | 15:24 |
| Riddell | good catch apachepanda | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | system settings crashing in locale settings | 15:25 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 15:25 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: got a backtrace? | 15:25 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: reliable, doing something in paticular? | 15:26 |
| Riddell | s/,/?/ | 15:26 |
| kubotu | Riddell meant: "BluesKaj: reliable? doing something in paticular?" | 15:26 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, which log should i search in ? | 15:29 |
| Riddell | the crash dialog will give you a backtrace | 15:29 |
| Riddell | kcmshell4 on command line with module name may help too | 15:30 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, was just helping some with their locale settings so i was looking at the path reqquired , when i click the languages tab and system settings crashed | 15:31 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: ok we don't patch that so it's likely an upstream issue | 15:32 |
| Riddell | if you want to help you can check if it happens every time and what settings you have that might affect it | 15:32 |
| Riddell | and report a bug to bugs.kde.org with a backtrace and the output of kcmshell4 language | 15:32 |
| Riddell | oh yes! | 15:34 |
| Riddell | daily CD installed without major problems! | 15:34 |
| Riddell | that's a weight off my mind | 15:35 |
| Riddell | now we just have 50 other things to fix like oversizing | 15:35 |
| debfx | that QAudioDeviceInfo error is harmless and expected. the build system just checks if it should build bindings for qtmultimedia. | 15:43 |
| afiestas | agateau_: any consumer of a(uso) around? | 16:10 |
| afiestas | (that's what getMenus returns) | 16:11 |
| agateau_ | afiestas: it's a debug method, not used by plasma-widget-menubar iirc | 16:11 |
| afiestas | an how id you used it? | 16:12 |
| afiestas | *did | 16:12 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, the system settings locale crash has already been reorted several times ...managed to login finally in https://bugs.kde.org | 16:20 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: aah | 16:28 |
| Riddell | debfx: oh fooey | 16:28 |
| apachepanda | tsdgeos: any l10n thoughts on phonon moving to qt-projects? | 16:36 |
| tsdgeos | all of phonon? | 16:36 |
| Riddell | does phonon have l10n? | 16:36 |
| apachepanda | tsdgeos: yes | 16:37 |
| apachepanda | Riddell: the kde desktop files mostly | 16:37 |
| apachepanda | + some error messages | 16:37 |
| tsdgeos | apachepanda: if you go there, then there's no more translations anymore | 16:37 |
| tsdgeos | i mean automated an integrated in our side | 16:38 |
| apachepanda | tsdgeos: no way to make that happen? or interest for that matter? | 16:38 |
| tsdgeos | i see two problems | 16:38 |
| tsdgeos | first, qt-project won't accept scripty raw commiting into the project | 16:39 |
| tsdgeos | second, making it happen means adding more code than then i have to maintain | 16:39 |
| tsdgeos | s/than/then | 16:40 |
| tsdgeos | arg | 16:40 |
| tsdgeos | s/than/that | 16:40 |
| apachepanda | any reason you are not in kde-devel? | 16:40 |
| tsdgeos | because i'm in work time and i'm only in canonical related channels :D | 16:40 |
| apachepanda | fair enough :) | 16:41 |
| tsdgeos | wait 30 min and i'll be there | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: did you backport kdevelop? | 17:10 |
| yofel | argh, I forgot about that, sorry | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | I'll do it | 17:12 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: this would be a nice feature for muon too: http://www.piware.de/2012/01/software-center-now-installs-language-support-automatically/ :) | 17:18 |
| === agateau_ is now known as agateau | ||
| Peace- | if anyone is interested here there is my tool for apt konsole kdialog based... | 17:40 |
| Peace- | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/aptk?content=108087 | 17:41 |
| Peace- | project is here | 17:43 |
| Peace- | http://code.google.com/p/kde-peace-settings/source/browse/ | 17:44 |
| apachepanda | nice | 17:49 |
| afiestas | agateau: have it almost done, only have to figure out some thread warnings and how to paint stuff in krunner :p | 18:14 |
| liudas | thanx everyone for releasing 4.8 | 18:15 |
| mKretschmann | hey folks. having a problem with upgrading to KDE 4.8 on 11.10 (backports): | 18:36 |
| mKretschmann | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-dataengines-addons_4%3a4.8.0-0ubuntu1~oneiric1~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 18:37 |
| mKretschmann | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/services/plasma-engine-kdeobservatory.desktop', which is also in package plasma-widget-kdeobservatory 4:4.8.0-0ubuntu1~oneiric1~ppa1 | 18:37 |
| mKretschmann | any ideas? Riddell ^ | 18:37 |
| yofel | mKretschmann: fixing | 18:46 |
| yofel | (or rather backporting fixed package) | 18:46 |
| mKretschmann | yofel: cool thx | 18:46 |
| mKretschmann | yofel: I have another problem: the Krandr thingie forgets the display settings. on restart my two screens have the wrong resolution, etc | 18:46 |
| mKretschmann | that's really major | 18:47 |
| yofel | I believe someone else had the same thing, but that would be something for bugs.kde.org | 18:47 |
| apachepanda | yofel: do you happen to know where the stinky old qml splash is? | 18:50 |
| mKretschmann | yes, I was about to ask that too | 18:50 |
| apachepanda | did someone forget to do list missing? | 18:50 |
| mKretschmann | I saw a video review of KDE 4.8, and it had a nice startup animation | 18:50 |
| mKretschmann | brb Mamarok called us to dinner | 18:51 |
| mKretschmann | apachepanda is at our place | 18:52 |
| yofel | hm.... | 18:52 |
| afiestas | agateau: When I instance the MyDBusMenuImporter I have to call updateMenu in order to get the menu data, right ? | 18:53 |
| afiestas | (I'm reading it at oxygen-appmenuc ode but just to be sure) | 18:54 |
| afiestas | agateau: I'm getting the submenus empties, for example | 18:59 |
| afiestas | I'm gtting Settings, File, Help but when I ask action->menu()->actions->isEmpty() it returns true | 18:59 |
| afiestas | do I have to update them somehow ? | 18:59 |
| afiestas | oh I see... | 19:00 |
| yofel | mKretschmann: as far as I see the only QML splash that's shipped with 4.8 is "Minimalistic" which is in kde-workspace-data-extras | 19:01 |
| yofel | apachepanda: ^ | 19:01 |
| ScottK | Riddell: My PyQt4 build failed locally, so I'll add that and retry. | 19:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell, apachepanda, and barry: Still fails with qtmobility-dev installed. That may be "a" problem, but it's not "the" problem. | 19:11 |
| ScottK | Generating the C++ source for the QtDeclarative module... | 19:11 |
| ScottK | "/usr/bin/sip" -w -o -P -x VendorID -t WS_X11 -x PyQt_NoPrintRangeBug -x PyQt_NoOpenGLES -x PyQt_qreal_double -t Qt_4_8_0 -x Py_v3 -g -j 10 -a QtDeclarative.api -c /tmp/buildd/python-qt4-4.9/build-2.7/QtDeclarative -b QtDeclarative/QtDeclarative.sbf -I /tmp/buildd/python-qt4-4.9/sip /tmp/buildd/python-qt4-4.9/sip/QtDeclarative/QtDeclarativemod.sip | 19:11 |
| ScottK | sip: QPainterPathStroker::setDashPattern() unsupported function argument type - provide %MethodCode and a valid C++ signature | 19:11 |
| ScottK | Error: Unable to create the C++ code. | 19:11 |
| * ScottK goes back on the road again. | 19:12 | |
| barry | sigh | 19:16 |
| apachepanda | ScottK: is that the first error of the log? | 19:17 |
| apachepanda | yofel: what is extras?!?!!? | 19:17 |
| apachepanda | holy french fries | 19:17 |
| yofel | stuff that doesn't fit on the CD? | 19:18 |
| ScottK | apachepanda: cfgtest_QtMultimedia.cpp:1:28: fatal error: QAudioDeviceInfo: No such file or directory was the first error. | 19:18 |
| * ScottK runs it again to make sure. | 19:23 | |
| ScottK | Ohhh. Found one before. Unable to load library icui18n "Cannot load library icui18n: (libicui18n.so.48: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)" | 19:25 |
| apachepanda | that QAudioDeviceInfo one should have gone away wit qtmo-dev | 19:27 |
| apachepanda | so my guess is that the include paths might be wrong | 19:28 |
| ScottK | libicu-dev was in fact missing. | 19:28 |
| apachepanda | !find libicui18n.so.48 precise | 19:28 |
| ubottu | File libicui18n.so.48 found in lib32icu48, libicu48, libicu48-dbg | 19:28 |
| ScottK | Installing that now. | 19:28 |
| apachepanda | ScottK: right, but that most likely is not related to the missing QADI include | 19:28 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:28 |
| apachepanda | /usr/include/QtMultimediaKit/QAudioDeviceInfo | 19:29 |
| apachepanda | g++ -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_MULTIMEDIA_LIB -I. -I/usr/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I/usr/include/qt4/QtMultimedia -I/usr/include/qt4 -pipe -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Wformat-security -Os -w -D_REENTRANT cfgtest_QtMultimedia.cpp -o cfgtest_QtMultimedia -L/usr/lib -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-O1 -lQtMultimedia | 19:29 |
| apachepanda | righto | 19:29 |
| apachepanda | QtMultimediaKit != QtMultimedia | 19:29 |
| apachepanda | I wonder why that did not fail before | 19:29 |
| apachepanda | easy fix: try to find a way to not build the multimedia bindings | 19:29 |
| ScottK | Confirmed libicu-dev /48 doesn't help with that. | 19:30 |
| ScottK | I'm going to rebuild sip4 and see if that magically helps. | 19:40 |
| yofel | oxygen-gtk3 for review in ninjas, no hurry though as I don't have the usage setup done yet, see bottom of the README on how to try it | 19:40 |
| ScottK | Nope. Doesn't help. | 19:48 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think we're back to ask upstream. | 19:48 |
| yofel | wth. some update set my default browser to rekonq (was firefox before) | 20:06 |
| Darkwing | Quintasan: ping | 20:13 |
| micahg | yofel: define default | 20:14 |
| yofel | manually set "default" in default applications | 20:14 |
| yofel | somehow that changed to manually defined rekonq | 20:14 |
| micahg | yeah, that's not good | 20:14 |
| micahg | oh, wait | 20:14 |
| micahg | just "default", does that use x-www-browser? | 20:15 |
| Darkwing | yay! i got a tablet for my birthday | 20:15 |
| micahg | a rekonq upgrade would do that | 20:15 |
| yofel | no update for that recently. Could be the kdm background update script | 20:16 |
| yofel | hm, no, that only touches kdmrc | 20:16 |
| Darkwing | anyone know where Quintasan posted the directions for kubuntu on his eee pad? | 20:19 |
| yofel | hm, rebuilding SIP might be a good idea looking at bug 921963 (actually for precise, not the PPA) | 20:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 921963 in Kubuntu PPA "plasma-desktop crashes at start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921963 | 20:20 |
| schnelle | guys this bug is now fixed upstream: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290964 | 20:24 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 290964 in Plasma Widget "Buttons out of place in plasma nm widget (KDE 4 8rc2)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 20:24 |
| schnelle | please include it in precise :) | 20:24 |
| apachepanda | so they better make a release :P | 20:24 |
| yofel | well, I guess we'll have rc5 in time for precise | 20:25 |
| * claydoh invites all to his new bachelor pad, but remember to byof - bring your own furniture lol | 20:46 | |
| Darkwing | lol hey man | 20:50 |
| claydoh | hi | 20:50 |
| Darkwing | hows life? | 20:51 |
| claydoh | broke and unemployed | 20:51 |
| claydoh | so only slightly different from before :D | 20:51 |
| claydoh | but warm and no snow | 20:51 |
| Darkwing | i hearthat. ive got some good interviews setup | 20:53 |
| === kfunk is now known as KRF | ||
| sheytan | heya | 21:02 |
| sheytan | do we got telepathy-kde fresh builds somwhere? | 21:02 |
| * sheytan would like to test | 21:02 | |
| claydoh | sheytan: there is the telepathy-kde ppa, but it is still at 0.2 iirc | 21:05 |
| sheytan | maybe yofel will point us to something fresh | 21:05 |
| * yofel redirects to Quintasan | 21:05 | |
| * sheytan waits for Quintasan's answer ;d | 21:06 | |
| Peace- | mmm software-properties-kde | 21:15 |
| Peace- | core dumped ? | 21:15 |
| Peace- | wtf | 21:15 |
| Peace- | :D | 21:15 |
| * jussi dumps Peace-'s core | 21:21 | |
| Peace- | LOL | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: yeah, one sec | 21:23 |
| shadeslayer | I believe Quintasan set up daily builds | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds | 21:24 |
| sheytan | cool gimme :D | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | aaannnddd they're unmaintained :/ | 21:24 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm needs newer telepathy-qt | 21:24 |
| sheytan | yeah ;/ | 21:24 |
| sheytan | Would be cool to build up the new beta 0.3 | 21:25 |
| Peace- | not too bad http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/26/plasma-desktopM22613.png | 21:26 |
| Peace- | it's not finished but it works | 21:26 |
| shadeslayer | grrr ... they also have a new release of telepathy qt4 | 21:26 |
| debfx | yofel: fedora uses xsettings-kde to set the gtk3 theme. see http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-01-17/kde-sig.2012-01-17-15.06.log.html and http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=xsettings-kde.git | 21:52 |
| yofel | thanks! | 21:52 |
| yofel | meh, they have about as many options as I found till now -.-, I'll look at xsettings-kde though | 22:06 |
| Riddell | yofel: you backported that issue mKretschmann has? | 22:41 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I should e-mail upstream? | 22:41 |
| yofel | yes | 22:41 |
| Riddell | yofel: awesome thanks | 23:06 |
| Riddell | Subject: [kde-packager] Patch for Amarok 2.5 release fixing issues with KDE 4.8.0 | 23:22 |
| Riddell | help needed with that ^^ | 23:22 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: you know where Quintasan posted his transformer kubuntu install info? | 23:23 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: I've no idea what that is I'm afraid | 23:25 |
| Riddell | you can grep irc logs? | 23:25 |
| Darkwing | His tablet he had at UDS | 23:25 |
| Darkwing | I'll wait till he pops in | 23:27 |
| Riddell | user posting to wrong list who likes Kubuntu precise with 4.8, lovely http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=132752020906824&w=2 | 23:44 |
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