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[05:21] <Fudge> snadge  noticed lightdm works in later precise builds
[05:21] <Fudge> earlier ones the init script just said unknown type or something S20lightdm
[06:09] <snadge> interesting fudge
[06:09] <snadge> it worked after a reinstall for me
[06:09] <snadge> i just cracked the shits with it
[08:38] <coz_> hey guys, I am not used to unity at all ... how do I change sessions ?
[08:39] <coz_> 12.04 by the way
[08:41] <Ian_Corne> you can't atm, it's broken
[08:42] <Ian_Corne> do you have a 2nd user?
[08:42] <Ian_Corne> select him from the user list
[08:42] <Ian_Corne> and go back to your user
[08:42] <coz_> Ian_Corne,  no I dont
[08:42] <Ian_Corne> and then the cogwheel appears
[08:42] <coz_> ah ok wht about guest sessioin?
[08:42] <Ian_Corne> or so i've heard
[08:42] <Ian_Corne> you can try
[08:42] <coz_> :) oh ok
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[09:11] <head_victim> Anyone else noticing some mouse oddities in the last few updates?
[09:11] <snadge> doh.. i cant install evince for some reason
[09:11] <snadge> anyone else not able to install evince?
[09:11] <snadge>  evince : Depends: libevince3-3 (= 3.2.1-1ubuntu8) but it is not going to be installed
[09:12] <head_victim> Same here
[09:12] <head_victim> I just tried to suss it out for you
[09:12] <head_victim> Exact same message, perhaps mirros syncing?
[09:13] <snadge> possibly.. im using au.archive.ubuntu.com
[09:14] <snadge> i only noticed because i went to view a pdf and it loaded in gimp.. i was like wtf? :p
[09:14] <nhaines> haha
[09:14] <nhaines> At least something works.  :)
[09:15] <snadge> i suppose i could install xpdf
[09:15] <snadge> but i thought i'd have a whinge about it in here instead ;)
[09:15] <Ian_Corne> okular snadge ;-)
[09:17] <head_victim> snadge: funnily enough I'm on the aarnet mirror (another AU)
[09:17] <head_victim> Not sure where au.archive redirects to.
[09:37] <coz_> hey guys, under gnome shell or even unity, I ctrl+alt+delete to bring up the shutdown dialog ui on previous ubuntu versions and gnome-session-save-kill  to bring up the log off dialog UI  however now the ctrl+alt+Delete brings up the log off dialog UI,,, is there another command for the shutdown daialog UI?
[09:37] <coz_> 12.04 again
[09:37] <snadge> probably aarnet ;)
[09:38] <coz_> ??
[09:38] <snadge> im going to change the source to something else
[09:38] <snadge> good question
[09:39] <snadge> you can press the power button
[09:39] <snadge> or type sudo shutdown
[09:39] <coz_> let me try command first
[09:39] <snadge> or select the shutdown optino from the system menu in the top right
[09:39] <coz_> snadge,  well, right now on gnome shell and there is no shutdown option there
[09:47] <Fudge> hi why does grub-pc in lucid detect OSX where in precise it does not?
[10:31] <cjoke> how do I define that I want to install libxtst i386 package with apt-get ?
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[10:46] <geser> apt-get install libxtst6:i386
[11:07] <cjoke> thanks geser :)
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[12:05] <bkerensa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/817529/
[12:05] <bkerensa> Unity is no longer showing up in lightdm
[12:08] <aguitel> is anyone using nvidia-173 drivers in 12.04 ?
[12:17] <iceroot> aguitel: you opened the bug we talked about?
[12:19] <aguitel> iceroot, not
[12:19] <iceroot> aguitel: why?
[12:20] <aguitel> iceroot, i don't know how i do
[12:20] <iceroot> aguitel: ubuntu-bug nvidia-173
[12:20] <aguitel> iceroot, url?
[12:21] <iceroot> aguitel: that is a command
[12:21] <iceroot> !bug
[12:21] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[12:21] <aguitel> iceroot, i will do
[12:21] <iceroot> aguitel: thx
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:42] <DaniG2k> guys I crashed my precise pangolin box with an update yesterday
[13:42] <DaniG2k> I think it had to do with a bug in X
[13:42] <DaniG2k> anyways, I've booted into the system with a liveCD
[13:42] <DaniG2k> and chrooted into the environment
[13:43] <DaniG2k> when I try to launch an apt-get update command though I get an error message
[13:43] <DaniG2k> such as
[13:43] <DaniG2k> Err http://it.archive.ubuntu.com precise/main Sources
[13:43] <DaniG2k>   Something wicked happened resolving 'it.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:43] <DaniG2k> and I cant seem to fix this
[13:43] <DaniG2k> I've tried changing my sources.list to US servers
[13:43] <DaniG2k> Swiss servers
[13:44] <DaniG2k> but it doesn't work
[13:44] <DaniG2k> I'm not able to update my software so I'm unable to get the fixed X package
[13:44] <DaniG2k> can anyone offer some help?
[13:49] <iceroot> DaniG2k: you can "ping -c 4 google.com"?
[13:49] <iceroot> DaniG2k: or only "ping -c 4 8.8.8.8"
[13:49] <iceroot> ?
[13:49] <DaniG2k> nope
[13:49] <DaniG2k> must be a DNS problem
[13:49] <DaniG2k> not sure how to fix it though :S
[13:50] <iceroot>  /etc/resolv.conf is your friend
[13:50] <DaniG2k> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[13:50] <DaniG2k> # Generated by NetworkManager
[13:50] <DaniG2k> that's all it says
[13:51] <DaniG2k> I guess I need to initialize network manager but i'm on a livecd now chrooted into the environment
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> Daekdroom:
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> dani
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> he's gone..
[13:52] <iceroot> ...
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> to bad
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> sorry was alt tabbing
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> err -alt
[13:52] <iceroot> there should be a big warning "dont use 12.04 if you dont know what you are doing"
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> and have joins and quits on ignore
[13:52] <Ian_Corne> idd :p
[13:53] <BluesKaj> DaniG2k,  the there's no way getting around NM , it will aleays generate the nameserver and overwrite any manual settings on the next boot
[13:53] <iceroot> DaniG2k: nameserver 127.0.0.1
[13:53] <BluesKaj> in resolv.conf
[13:53] <DaniG2k> sorry i got disconnected
[13:53] <iceroot> DaniG2k: nameserver 8.8.8.8
[13:54] <iceroot> DaniG2k: put that in your /etc/resolv.conf and do the upgrade
[13:54] <DaniG2k> should I add nameserver "127.0.0.1" to my resolv.conf?
[13:54] <iceroot> DaniG2k: only the line with 8.8.8.8, the one with 127.0.0,1 was a mistake
[13:54] <Ian_Corne> 127.0.0.1 is localhost
[13:54] <Ian_Corne> just fyi
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Nm will ogverwrite resplv.conf on the nexz boot
[13:55] <BluesKaj> resolv.conf
[13:56]  * BluesKaj cleans his glasses
[13:57] <DaniG2k> great, it's working!
[13:57] <DaniG2k> thanks :D
[13:57] <DaniG2k> wow, one little mistake
[13:57] <DaniG2k> !!
[13:57] <Ian_Corne> tbh the error thrown by apt is not clear
[13:57] <Ian_Corne> the message gives hints to us
[13:58] <Ian_Corne> but to the untrained eye
[13:58] <Ian_Corne> it should show the same error you get when your browser failes to resolve a hostname
[13:58] <DaniG2k> yeah
[13:59] <DaniG2k> hmm but I don't know if simply upgrading my system will fix the main issue
[13:59] <DaniG2k> the main problem I was having was
[13:59] <DaniG2k> booting into pangolin after an X update
[13:59] <DaniG2k> it completely crashed X
[13:59] <DaniG2k> did this happen to other people here?
[14:00] <iceroot> DaniG2k: /var/log/syslog is a good start
[14:00] <BluesKaj> DaniG2k,  do you plan to keep network manager with you permanent install , if so it will overwrite your dns/nameserver settings unless NM has a setting somewhere , I've forgotten , it's been so long since I used it.
[14:01] <DaniG2k> yeah network manager was working fine before
[14:01] <DaniG2k> i guess something changed with an update and messed the system up a bit
[14:01] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:02] <DaniG2k> I think this was the error with X
[14:03] <DaniG2k> kernel: [  176.559673] unity-greeter[3183]: segfault at c ip 00ec0090 sp bfb075f0 error 4
[14:03] <DaniG2k> in libindicator3.so.7.0.0[ebc000+c000]
[14:03] <DaniG2k> yeah that must be it
[14:05] <DaniG2k> is the unity-greeter broken?
[14:19] <jo-erlend> are there general breakages now? I'm unable to install either vlc or codecs for totem.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> totem ..ppl still use that ?
[14:20] <jo-erlend> yes, I like Totem very much. But I also can't install vlc, as I said.
[14:21] <Ian_Corne> I also use totem
[14:21] <Ian_Corne> jo-erlend: i still havbe broken packages waiting
[14:21] <Ian_Corne> (at home)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> jo-erlend,  ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[14:22] <jo-erlend> BluesKaj, that's a meta package. If I can't install the packages it refers to, I won't be able to install that either.
[14:23] <jo-erlend> ehrm..  let me test that assumption. :)
[14:25] <jo-erlend> it actually seems that ubuntu-restricted-extras can be installed. Perhaps it uses the 64bit libs instead of the 32bit ones. That's fine. I have loads of RAM anyway :)
[14:25] <jo-erlend> BluesKaj, thanks for the suggestion. :)
[14:28] <DaniG2k> hmm I'm still getting an error when I boot my pangolin box
[14:28] <DaniG2k> X keeps crashing
[14:29] <DaniG2k> is this a known issue?
[14:29] <DaniG2k> it happened yesterday after an upgrade
[14:41] <Ziad> hello will the new ubuntu release work in old intel macs?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> jo-erlend,  the default restricted-extras is whatever your arch you have installed, 64 or 32
[14:43] <jo-erlend> BluesKaj, right. I use 64bit, but I think Totem wants to install 32bit codecs. Still won't play my videos though.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> jo-erlend,  how about vlc , it works with mostly everything IME
[14:44] <jo-erlend> BluesKaj, as I told you before, I can't install vlc.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> jo-erlend,  that's strange
[14:45] <jo-erlend> broken dependencies.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> missing some libs ?
[14:47] <Ziad> hi, ubuntu 11.10 does not work on mac right?
[14:47] <jo-erlend> yup. It was fine a couple of days ago, so I guess it's a temporary situation.
[14:47] <jo-erlend> Ziad, this channel is about Precise, not about 11.10.
[14:47] <Ziad> i have been trying for sevral weeks but no success
[14:48] <bazhang> Ziad, on intel macs? sure it does. as does 12.04
[14:48] <jo-erlend> yup, I was going to tell him about the amd64+mac image, but he left too quickly :)
[14:48] <bazhang> ah he quit
[14:49] <BluesKaj> so you've run -f install and dpkg --configure -a , and dpkg --clear-avail , there's also sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends nameofpackage(s) , this last command can be tedious , but if you remove the right broken dependencies , it does work.
[14:49] <_Marcus> Is Ubuntu 12.04 stable?
[14:49] <_Marcus> Like, would it be good for everday use?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> _Marcus,  not recommended for on the job
[14:50] <_Marcus> Oh, okay
[14:50] <_Marcus> Thanks
[14:50] <BluesKaj> for testing yes
[14:50] <blocky> does the alpha have HUD?
[14:51] <jo-erlend> blocky, no.
[14:52] <jo-erlend> it's not been definitely decided whether it will be included either. I personally hope it'll be postponed to QQ.
[14:52] <blocky> because it won't be ready?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> jo-erlend,  did you see my post above about dependencies , sorry i should have used your nick
[14:53] <blocky> it's getting a lot of press coverage, thats how I heard about it
[14:53] <jo-erlend> blocky,  that depends on what you mean by ready. I'm sure the current feature set can be made stable during the remaining three months, but I think it would be better to add it and replace the menus at the same time, and that can't happen in 12.04.
[14:54] <blocky> why not roll it out as optional in 12.04?
[14:55] <jo-erlend> that might be an option.
[14:55] <blocky> I guess it's a feature that's embedded within unity?
[14:55] <jo-erlend> but there's still time, so who knows.
[14:55] <jo-erlend> yes.
[14:55] <blocky> no chance of using it in gnome-shell?
[14:55] <jo-erlend> right.
[14:55] <blocky> okay
[14:55] <jo-erlend> well.. Gnome Shell developers could add support for it.
[14:55] <jo-erlend> but it wouldn't be automatic.
[14:56] <blocky> do you use unity for your main desktop?
[14:56] <jo-erlend> yes
[14:59] <blocky> if I install 12.04 and the ppa I can help test HUD?
[15:05] <Pici> blocky: I don't see why not.
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[15:41] <passeride> can i use 12.04 as my primary?
[15:42] <ikonia> as your primary what ?
[15:42] <jo-erlend> passeride, can you fix the problems that you must expect when using a development version?
[15:44] <jo-erlend> is so; yes, you can use Precise on your primary machine. As a development version, it's very good. However, it is undergoing active development and changes can suddenly cause big problems. If big problems is a problem to you, then you shouldn't.
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[17:35] <DaniG2k> I did an update yesterday and now X is no longer starting up when I boot the computer
[17:35] <DaniG2k> but I can't figure out what the problem is
[17:35] <DaniG2k> has anyone been having this problem?
[17:35] <DaniG2k> or know how I can check what went wrong?
[17:38] <DaniG2k> I did an update yesterday and now X is no longer starting up when I boot the computer
[17:38] <DaniG2k> but I can't figure out what the problem is
[17:38] <DaniG2k> has anyone been having this problem?
[17:38] <DaniG2k> or know how I can check what went wrong?
[17:38] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: go back to using the default drivers until X is fixed (no i dont know when or what is wrong yet) also depends on the card you are using and such
[17:38] <DaniG2k> how do I switch back?
[17:39] <DaniG2k> I'm not sure what nvidia drivers I was using before
[17:39] <gnomefreak> log for trouble shoot is in /var/log/xorg
[17:39] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: never did figure that out without using jockey
[17:40] <gnomefreak> nvidia-current if i had to guess
[17:40] <DaniG2k> Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the system's kernel log for additional error messages and consult the NVIDIA README for details.
[17:40] <DaniG2k> which one is the kernel log?
[17:41] <gnomefreak> hold on
[17:41] <gnomefreak> /var/log/kern.log
[17:41] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: the log files are named to make it easy to find
[17:41] <gnomefreak> just have to look
[17:41] <DaniG2k> kernel: [   49.174329] unity-greeter[1559]: segfault at c ip 00923090 sp bfd806e0 error 4 in libindicator3.so.7.0.0[91f000+c000]
[17:42] <DaniG2k> I think that must be the error
[17:42] <DaniG2k> cause it appears a bunch of times
[17:42] <gnomefreak> most likely you would be correct
[17:42] <DaniG2k> yeah that must be it
[17:42] <gnomefreak> file a bug report on it
[17:42] <DaniG2k> but I already tried uninstalling unity greeter and reinstalling it
[17:42] <DaniG2k> hmm k
[17:43] <DaniG2k> I don't really know how to do this well
[17:43] <gnomefreak> reinstalling things dont always fix things
[17:43] <DaniG2k> I'll give it a shot
[17:43] <gnomefreak> open terminal type "ubuntu-bug unity-greeter" without the " and answer querstions asked
[17:44] <gnomefreak> questions even
[17:44] <gnomefreak> or if that doesnt work use unity
[17:45] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: what version of unity-greeter do you have
[17:46] <DaniG2k> apt-cache policy unity-greeter
[17:46] <DaniG2k> unity-greeter:
[17:46] <DaniG2k>   Installed: 0.2.0-0ubuntu5
[17:46] <DaniG2k>   Candidate: 0.2.0-0ubuntu5
[17:46] <DaniG2k>   Version table:
[17:46] <DaniG2k>  *** 0.2.0-0ubuntu5 0
[17:46] <DaniG2k>         500 http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
[17:46] <DaniG2k>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[17:46] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: dont do that
[17:46] <DaniG2k> i can
[17:46] <DaniG2k> i can't launch ubuntu-bug unity-greeter because I'm on a liveCD chrooted into my Pangolin box
[17:47] <gnomefreak> than do it from hard drive instead
[17:48] <gnomefreak> or file bug old fastion way using browser and attach files to it
[17:49] <gnomefreak> there are a bunch of chat apps that rhun in terminnal so you can run them from tty
[17:50] <DaniG2k> hmmm
[17:50] <DaniG2k> might also be a problem with libindicator3
[17:51] <gnomefreak> irssi,pork,bitlbee,epic4/5 are jusdt some of them
[17:52] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: that error could just be due to *-greeter
[17:53] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[17:55] <DaniG2k> k I posted it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/922228
[17:55] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 922228 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Bug in unity-greeter crashes X" [Undecided,New]
[17:55] <DaniG2k> I don't know if it needs other files attached
[17:56] <DaniG2k> I hope it's ok that way...
[17:59] <gnomefreak> ill check
[18:00] <DaniG2k> thnx
[18:00] <DaniG2k> brb
[18:00] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: you didnt attach any log files
[18:01] <emefarrr> gnomefreak: & DaniG2k:  FWIW, I'm seeing same error and have Nvidia grfx
[18:01] <gnomefreak> i have ati once im fully updated ill find out if i have it'
[18:02] <gnomefreak> emefarrr: if your seeing it try runnin apport-collect 922228  after adding comment that you see it also
[18:02] <DaniG2k> not sure what log files i need to attach
[18:02] <emefarrr> gnomefreak: WIll do.  thanks!
[18:02] <gnomefreak> that should give DaniG2k what logs he should attach :)
[18:03] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: you will
[18:03]  * gnomefreak still cant figure out why nvidia-current is default on installs
[18:03] <DaniG2k> haha
[18:05] <gnomefreak> ok brb reboot
[18:07] <DaniG2k> welcome back
[18:07] <enseven> Hi all! On Ubuntu 12.04alpha1 Linux version 3.2.0-10-generic I have a problem with kworker threads. I do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zero1.tmp bs=1024 count=13000000 and two kworker threads start using up nearly 100% CPU from the time the memory cache gets filled up. The problem is described in http://tinyurl.com/dd-kworker-hang and I posted it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/887793/comments/22 . Can anyone help me?
[18:07] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 887793 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kworker constantly taking about 100% CPU" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:07] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: run apport-collect 922228
[18:08] <gnomefreak> your bug is related to nvidia drivers
[18:08] <gnomefreak> i have X :)
[18:08] <DaniG2k> gnomefreak: I tried running apport-collect but
[18:08] <DaniG2k> since I'm on a LiveCD chrooted into my environment
[18:09] <DaniG2k> it doesn't work
[18:09] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: you need to enter tty than
[18:09] <DaniG2k> Cannot start: Gtk couldn't be initialized
[18:09] <DaniG2k> how do I do that
[18:09] <DaniG2k> and also I'm getting this error message
[18:09] <DaniG2k> Cannot find /proc/version - is /proc mounted?
[18:09] <DaniG2k> I might have not mounted proc correctly
[18:09] <gnomefreak> just boot from hd for a few minutes to run the command than go backt o live cd. but you have to add files to bug or its worthless
[18:09] <DaniG2k> thought I had
[18:10] <DaniG2k> I can't enter commands if I boot from hd
[18:10] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: you cant get into a tty to log in?
[18:10] <DaniG2k> i can't access the terminal
[18:10] <DaniG2k> no
[18:10] <DaniG2k> that's why I'm doing it from livecd
[18:11] <gnomefreak> did you try using ctrl+alt+f2
[18:11] <DaniG2k> yeah
[18:11] <gnomefreak> ok thats odd you shouldnt have lost your terms, they all work here for me
[18:12] <DaniG2k> it gets stuck in a loop that tries loading nvidia and then it shuts off, perpetually
[18:12] <DaniG2k> I even tried recovery mode
[18:12] <DaniG2k> I tried ctrl+alt+F1-12
[18:12] <DaniG2k> nothing worked
[18:12] <DaniG2k> :(
[18:13] <gnomefreak> DaniG2k: than wait for enseven to add his files to bug and just add the same ones he does manually
[18:13] <emefarrr> DaniG2k:  working on collecting logs.  unfortunately i suck at accessing launchpad via lynx so it will take some time...
[18:13] <DaniG2k> thnx
[18:13] <gnomefreak> but at the very least attach /var/log/kern,log and /var/log/xorg
[18:13] <DaniG2k> ok
[18:14] <gnomefreak> ,=. today
[18:15] <trism> DaniG2k: what does apt-cache policy libindicator3-7; return
[18:15] <DaniG2k> Installed: 0.4.90-0ubuntu4
[18:17] <trism> DaniG2k: alright, that is the latest one, thought maybe it might have something to do with the workaround in 0.4.90-0ubuntu3 (I have nvidia here too but I am not seeing this crash)
[18:18] <trism> DaniG2k: if you can, take a look at the logs in /var/log/lightdm/ as well, there may be clues, especially in the greeter log
[18:19] <DaniG2k> good catch
[18:19] <DaniG2k> there are some errors there
[18:19] <DaniG2k> WARNING: File '/usr/lib/indicators3/7/libdatetime.so' does not exist.
[18:19] <DaniG2k> and also CRITICAL: g_signal_connect_object: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
[18:19] <DaniG2k> and some others as well
[18:21] <trism> that is the issue, install indicator-datetime
[18:21] <DaniG2k> k, that will install geoclue-ubuntu-geoip indicator-datetime
[18:22] <trism> unity-greeter should just ignore this though and move on, not go into an endless loop, crazy
[18:22] <trism> yes that is fine, as long as it didn't try to install geoclue-yahoo, which has other issues
[18:22] <DaniG2k> I'll try to reboot
[18:22] <trism> DaniG2k: might not even need it, I reinstall it and unity-greeter stopped the endless loop and started up
[18:23] <Ian_Corne> alt tab is broken
[18:23] <DaniG2k> hmm looking at the log file
[18:23] <DaniG2k> i also get this message: CRITICAL: g_error_free: assertion `error != NULL' failed
[18:24] <trism> DaniG2k: yeah those are fine (well, not fine but it should work with them)
[18:25] <DaniG2k> ok
[18:25] <DaniG2k> hope this works :D
[18:29] <trism> I see the issue I think, it doesn't check for a NULL indicator object when loading them
[18:41] <trism> yeah that seems to fix this issue anyway
[19:18] <spaetz> just updated my precise snapshot and lightdm enters an infitite crash-respawn cycle.
[19:18] <spaetz> everything works fine if I disable lightdm and start startxfce4 as a regular user though
[19:18] <spaetz> so the X server works generally
[19:20] <trism> spaetz: is indicator-datetime installed?
[19:21] <spaetz> no
[19:21] <spaetz> Xubuntu, without many of the indicator things
[19:21] <trism> spaetz: are you using unity-greeter though?
[19:22] <spaetz> I guess so, haven't disabled anything there. Let me check
[19:23] <spaetz> yes, unity-greeter is installed, so I presume that is being used
[19:23] <spaetz> haven't fiddled with the default setup beyond using xubuntu.
[19:24] <spaetz> dropping into a shell and invoking "lightdm" exhibits the inifiite cycle too, it's impossible to escape it.
[19:24] <trism> spaetz: install indicator-datetime then, I believe this is bug 921953
[19:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 921953 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "Segfault at 18 ip 00007f5480428f6c sp 00007fffa8aa6760 error 4 in libindicator3.so.7.0.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921953
[19:24] <spaetz> I wonder if I need to pull up another machine and try to test via ssh
[19:24] <spaetz> k, let me test
[19:25] <spaetz> trismK, gone for a while, rebooting...
[19:25] <trism> spaetz: I'll be here waiting for unity-greeter to rebuild
[19:27] <trism> spaetz: it seems to occur with other indicators missing too, so if you are still having issues, check the greeter log in /var/log/lightdm/ for warnings about missing indicators
[19:37] <spaetz> YAY
[19:37] <spaetz> indicator-datetime fixed it
[19:37] <spaetz> So it was indeed that bug
[20:20] <urlin2u> So what is the process of reporting a panic on the daily cd crashes immediately at the desktop, has been doing this for weeks?
[22:15] <aguitel> iceroot, i have some problem ,i cannot report the nvidia-173 bug coz i change 12.04 to 11.10 and there is not problem with nvidia-173
[22:18] <iceroot> aguitel: then open the bug on launchpad directly
[22:18] <iceroot> qinstead of using ubuntu-bug
[22:18] <iceroot> ubottu: ubuntu-bug linux
[22:18] <iceroot> urlin2u: ubuntu-bug linux
[22:18] <iceroot> urlin2u: panic = kernel panic i guess
[22:19] <iceroot> urlin2u: you are using an eeepc or msi wind (or something else with rt2800pci wifi)?
[22:19] <urlin2u> iceroot, lol never happened before to me in this extent
[22:20] <urlin2u> iceroot, acre d250 netbook all generic really.
[22:20] <urlin2u> acer
[22:21] <urlin2u> iceroot, Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:21] <iceroot> urlin2u: ok then its another bug
[22:21] <iceroot> urlin2u: you should open a bug against "linux"
[22:22] <urlin2u> iceroot, yeah very strange, so I need a launchpad account to report correct?
[22:22] <iceroot> urlin2u: yes
[22:22] <urlin2u> iceroot, do i have to set up te key and all that?
[22:22] <iceroot> urlin2u: its easy to create one and worth having one
[22:22] <urlin2u> the
[22:22] <iceroot> urlin2u: the key?
[22:23] <urlin2u> iceroot, there is a key for having a page of some sort I think not sure really I had an account and with no use it was deactivated, so the process is not familiar to me.
[22:24] <iceroot> urlin2u: sorry i dont know what you mean
[22:24] <urlin2u> a code of conduct sign as well.
[22:24] <iceroot> urlin2u: that is not needed for reporting bugs
[22:25] <iceroot> urlin2u: also the pgp or ssh key is not needed for reporting bugs
[22:25] <urlin2u> iceroot, cool I will get to it when I have time, thanks for that last confirmation.
[22:26] <urlin2u> I'm going to try a disc I just loaded I was using a thumb, it may be the problem, not sure how but you never know.
[23:09] <Crazytails> How do I changed the system fonts and default session, in 12.04 ?
[23:09] <Crazytails> I want to use Unity-2D because I'm testing it in a virtual machine.
[23:14] <urlin2u> iceroot, hey I got installed using a disc, I also removed a sdhc card when booting the disc as well for general info here, the thumb and sdhc card should not be part of the equation here but that was how I proceeded to cut out any posssible problems.
[23:29] <blocky> if I want to install 12.04 is it better to download the alpha iso or upgrade from 11.10